The In Between

In this honest, encouraging, and hope-filled conversation, Pastors Adrienne Ash and Shareena Casey, discuss all things Christian singleness: the real challenges singles face today, the sometimes understated blessings of singleness, how to navigate dating, desire, and purpose in our society, and how to thrive — emotionally, relationally, and spiritually.Whether you're in a season of contentment, frustration or questioning, this episode will remind you:  You are not forgotten. You are not incomplete. You are seen, called, and deeply loved by God.Adrienne Ash has served as a pastor at Vineyard Columbus for nearly a decade and currently leads as the Westerville Community Pastor. In this role, she helps people connect deeply with one another and with God, creating a sense of family within the church. With degrees in Community Services and Family Development, Adrienne brings a strong foundation in building healthy relationships and fostering inclusive community life. She is especially passionate about walking alongside singles in their Christian journey and engaging in the ongoing work of racial reconciliation.Shareena Casey is the Worship Pastor at Vineyard Columbus where she enjoys helping others connect with God. Shareena has served at VC as a worship leader for 15 years. She is a graduate of Rich Nathan's Pastors Residency Program and is a single mom of two energetic children! She loves taking walks with a coffee mug in hand, thrives in one-on-one conversation and loves to laugh. ResourcesWalking with God Through Pain and SufferingBefore You Begin The Journey - Class for Singles

All Shall Be Well?? On Mental Health with Karen Twinem.Whilst walking through our darkest moments, 'all shall be well' may feel trite, especially when our world is crashing down around us. Listen in as Julia chats with Karen Twinem, longtime member and co-leader of the support group Loving Someone With Mental Illness. Karen shares her journey of caring for several family members diagnosed with mental illness, and how through her most difficult circumstances, she encounters and learns to walk daily with Jesus. You'll hear the true joy in her voice that can only come from a life deeply intertwined and with daily reliance upon Christ.Karen Twinem retired after 30 years as a journalist, creative director and public relations counselor.  She was a co-founder and leader of a Vineyard support group for families dealing with severe and persistent mental illness. The teachings from that group can be found at www.lovingsomeonewithmentalillness.com. She serves at Vineyard Columbus today as a small group co-leader and prayer ministry team member. She blogs about practicing the presence of Christ at www.mindfulchristianyear.com. You are welcome to contact her at karentwinem@gmail.com.Loving Someone With Mental Illness : Faith, hope and love for difficult livesFaith, hope and love for difficult lives.

UPDATED:Now... 'all shall be well' sounds great, but it is sometimes truly hard to believe! In this series, we're looking at some anxiety-producing topics through Julian of Norwich's lens of faith, hope, and love.Today, Julia interviews Ron Schmidt, whose passion for creation care (especially about achieving net-zero greenhouse gas emissions) is filled with conviction, curiosity, and hope. Listen in as one of our sages talks about his passion for the earth, his concern about climate change, and why he believes that working towards an impossible and an important goal is both life-giving and the best use of who God made him to be.Ron grew up in a working-class family in Milwaukee and graduated with his MBA and BBA with an accounting major from the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. While beginning his career in public accounting, during which time he obtained his CPA, Ron eventually moved into banking. In 1983, Ron relocated to Columbus to join Bank One, which, ultimately, became JPMorgan Chase. After retirement in 2009, Ron joined Vineyard Columbus, graduating from Vineyard Institute in 2014. Only recently (2024) did he become actively involved in creation care. Ron is married and has four adult children and four grandchildren. You can contact Ron at: ron.creationcare@gmail.com.Julian of Norwich lived in the Middle Ages through the Black Plague and is one of the church's most recognized mystics.  She wrote the earliest surviving book in the English language written by a woman, Revelations of Divine Love, in which we find her well known reflection: Here I was taught by the grace of God that I should steadfastly hold me in the Faith ... and that ... I should take my stand on and earnestly believe in ... that ‘all manner of thing shall be well'. Interested in getting involved in Creation Care at Vineyard Columbus?Contact: jenney.rice@vineyardcoluumbus.orgPraxis / Redemptive Quest: https://journal.praxis.co/redemptive-quests-652259149ed8Following Jesus in a Warming World: https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/following-jesus-in-a-warming-world-a-christian-call-to-climate-action?rq=following%20jesus%20in%20a%20warming%20world

Now... 'all shall be well' sounds great, but it is sometimes truly hard to believe! In this series, we're looking at some anxiety-producing topics through Julian of Norwich's lens of faith, hope, and love.Today, Julia interviews Ron Schmidt, whose passion for creation care (especially about achieving net-zero greenhouse gas emissions) is filled with conviction, curiosity, and hope. Listen in as one of our sages talks about his passion for the earth, his concern about climate change, and why he believes that working towards an impossible and an important goal is both life-giving and the best use of who God made him to be.Ron grew up in a working-class family in Milwaukee and graduated with his MBA and BBA with an accounting major from the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. While beginning his career in public accounting, during which time he obtained his CPA, Ron eventually moved into banking. In 1983, Ron relocated to Columbus to join Bank One, which, ultimately, became JPMorgan Chase. After retirement in 2009, Ron joined Vineyard Columbus, graduating from Vineyard Institute in 2014. Only recently (2024) did he become actively involved in creation care. Ron is married and has four adult children and four grandchildren. You can contact Ron at: ron.creationcare@gmail.com.Julian of Norwich lived in the Middle Ages through the Black Plague and is one of the church's most recognized mystics.  She wrote the earliest surviving book in the English language written by a woman, Revelations of Divine Love, in which we find her well known reflection: Here I was taught by the grace of God that I should steadfastly hold me in the Faith ... and that ... I should take my stand on and earnestly believe in ... that ‘all manner of thing shall be well'. Interested in getting involved in Creation Care at Vineyard Columbus?Contact: jenney.rice@vineyardcoluumbus.orgPraxis / Redemptive Quest: https://journal.praxis.co/redemptive-quests-652259149ed8Following Jesus in a Warming World: https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/following-jesus-in-a-warming-world-a-christian-call-to-climate-action?rq=following%20jesus%20in%20a%20warming%20world

Dr Charles and Julia take time to wrap up this lovely series of pods on the Beloved Community. They cover: how the depths of a theology of kingdom multi-ethnicity form us and offer us a continued way forward even when academic and corporate DEI spaces are feeling pressure and pressback; God's heart for his people; why empathy and curiosity take so much energy; and the difference between forming a Christian vocation of repair vs just getting mad and breaking things. Also, Dr. Charles ends with a solid word of hope and encouragement because this continued work of building and becoming the beautiful community is... uh.... yea, difficult.... especially in increasingly tenuous times. Listen in, do your homework, and take good care of your souls, my friends. The link mentioned in the podcast is Vineyard.Online, then three easy steps: register, click CORE, and scroll to the 'kingdom multiethnicity' pathway. ENJOY!

Ya'll get to meet Julia's parents today! On this episode of The In Between, Julia talks to Grace & Jeff Silliman (otherwise known as Julia's mum and dad). They talk about their own faith mentors, intergenerational faith, the joys and challenges of being a sage in the church, and what it means to develop intergenerational communities where we all learn from and enjoy one another. Pass this episode along to a sage you know, or maybe consider taking a step toward cultivating intergenerational friendships in your own life. As Pope Francis reminded us: "Young people bud and foliage, but without roots they cannot bear fruit. The elderly are the roots.” A tree can grow tall, but without deep roots, it'll blow over in the first strong wind that comes by. So let's grow together: EVERY generation for FUTURE generations. 

Have you ever felt left out? Can you remember a moment where you experienced the wide open welcome of Jesus? The kingdom of God is marked by a noticeable erasure of outsider/insider categories - not just in theory, but in practice.Do you want to be part of a community that is demonstrating that welcome to folks who very often don't receive it in our world? Us too!!Listen in and be inspired as Julia speaks with two amazing women who are a part of our inclusion ministries which is made up of folks serving and discipling (and being served and discipled) with neurodivergence, developmental or intellectual disabilities. Paige is a member of VC who loves to worship, to serve, and who is a beloved part of this ministry area. Amanda Fessehazion leads this ministry area as well as serves as the Director of our newly launched (just this week!) Accessibly & Inclusion Ministry (AIM) Day Services. Email AIMDayServices@vineyardcolumbus.org for more info or to volunteer.vineyardcolumbus.org/vc-kidsThanks to the generous seed money from VC's Kingdom Builders – a group of members who want to give above and beyond their tithe to redemptive, impactful projects like this one – and with a sustainable model relying on fee-for-service and Medicaid billing, AIM Day Services will provide a safe and enriching space for adults affected by disability. Imagine a place where participants can engage in worship, devotions, art, fitness, music, outings, and so much more! Plus, they'll have the incredible opportunity to develop employability skills by partnering with our café, facilities team, the bookstore, and other ministries. The program will operate Monday through Friday, from 9 am to 3 pm. This remarkable achievement is the result of the tireless dedication of Amanda Fessehazion and her amazing team, Sherry Chapin and Freddie Losambe. Since September 2024, they've poured their hearts into this God-inspired vision, visiting other centers, researching best practices, completing over 40 hours of specialized training, crafting an engaging program calendar, building enrollment processes, mastering Medicaid billing, and connecting with future participants. Building a program of this scale from the ground up is no small feat, and we are incredibly proud of their hard work and commitment.

"How old will YOU be in 10 years? Julia (who will be 62 a decade from now) interviews students during Culture Conference and ask them: how can the church be your beloved community both now, and years in the future from now. Listen in and get inspired about what it means to be a community where every generation is connected to the one before *and the one coming in the future. SPECIAL THANKS to the amazing students who joined the pod. You're ALL the very best podcast guests ever

In this episode about being a part of the beloved community of God, Julia hosts a conversation about how current events are impacting our New American sisters and brothers. About a quarter of Vineyard Columbus is foreign born, so this is a very personal conversation for many! And Julia's mother was born in a DP camp after WW2 and entered the US as a refugee when she was a child, so it's personal for her too. It's also personal for our guests: Dr Seleshi Asfaw is President and CEO of ETSS, an immigration and refugee organization here in Columbus. Flo Gimei is on the board of ETSS, she herself came to the US decades ago, and she's a long time member of Vineyard Columbus.Listen in to not only hear some personal stories, but also to learn more about some of the challenges that New Americans are facing right now. Please check out our show notes for more resources and ways to serve, and if you do know someone needing practical helps like Know Your Rights materials, please feel free to point folks to vineyardcolumbus.org/immigration... where we've also posted a longer explanation of our Theology, Posture, and Pastoral Practices regarding immigration, immigrants, and refugees. And if you're someone who wants to help, volunteer, or who is able to volunteer to do some much needed translation work for us, please reach out to podcast@vineyardcolumbus.org and we'll point you in the right direction.Dr. Seleshi Ayalew Asfaw, currently the President & CEO of ETSS, has an extensive and distinguished background in the medical and public health fields. He earned his Doctor of Medicine from Addis Ababa University in Ethiopia, followed by a master's in public health Methodology, Education, and Behavioral Sciences from the Public Health School in Brussels, Belgium. He has been a driving force behind the design and implementation of ETSS Adult and Youth refugee programs, reflecting his deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities facing new immigrants. His passion for aiding their transition to life in the United States is evident in his work.Flo Gimei is a dedicated wife of over 25 years and a proud mother of 2 adult children. She is a Technology Executive Director in the financial industry and has served on the ETSS board for 3 years. She has been a member of Vineyard Columbus for 20+ years where she has actively served as a small group leader for over 15 years, a leader of the International Women's Breakfast, and she has also served as a member of the Church Council.https://www.crisohio.orgvineyardcolumbus.org/immigration

Welcome back and happy 2025! The In Between is back with a series of conversations about what MLK Jr called the beloved community... this dream of unity marked by kingdom multi-ethnicity, diversity, and a deep orientation to the truth of the Imago Dei - that each human is made in the image of God from the very first moments a new life is forming in the womb.Okay. Poetic language and lofty imagery aside, becoming a community like this IS HARD work, IRL (In Real Life). Multiethnic community comes as a grace, as well as with a cost. We're all made in the image of God, yes - but we all also have really different layers that make up who we are. We all are part of His kingdom, yes - but we all have really different cultures and ways of being and norms. We all have value, and we're all sisters and brothers in Christ, yes - but we often find it easier to hang out in our silos or bubbles with folks just like us.In this episode about being a part of a multiethnic community, Julia hosts a dialogue with Pastor Adrienne Ash, Pastor Daniel Hernandez, and Mailin Young, VC Head of Staff. Listen in to a frank and beautiful conversation about the layers we all have, what it feels like to walk into a room when you're not sure how you fit, the difference between cultural hospitality and code-switching, and sooooooooo much more. Enjoy!

The Way to a True Discipleship with Jesus - Intro to Vineyard CoreIn this episode, we'll explore the struggles we all face in our walk with faith and how tools can help us strenghten our discipleship. Listen in as Eric Pickerill and Amanda Pershing introduce a brand new program called Vineyard Core, which aims at providing both online and in-person resources to help us all in our discipleship journey. Find out why Vineyard Core is such a revolutionary program and how you can be a part of it! 

Charismatic Revival Fury, Part 2: Unpacked, with Dr Caleb Maskell, VUSA Associate Nat'l Director of Theology & Education.In this episode, we'll explore the history of connection, followed by strong divergence between John Wimber (founder of the Vineyard movement) and C Peter Wagner, founder of the NAR. These episodes help us understand the role of Wimber's leadership in working to draw theological frameworks and create Biblical boundaries around a novel spiritual movement, what happened when those boundaries were ignored, and what we need to learn about temptations to power and followership of Jesus.https://www.vineyardcolumbus.org/articles/ten-commitments-for-a-divisive-election-yearJohn Wilber - Five-fold Ministry

Charismatic Revival Fury. Part 1, w/ Dr. Matt Taylor.Charismatic Revival Fury: The New Apostolic Reformation is an audio documentary that explains the history, leadership, and belief formation behind a growing and influential group of evangelicals in the US known as the New Apostolic Reformation, many of whom ended up at the Capitol riot on Jan 6, and many of whom are still influencing much conversation in evangelical circles. What you might not know is that in the very early days of the NAR, Vineyard founder John Wimber was in the mix. In this and the next episode, we'll explore the podcast series, learn about the NAR,  it's history and the consequence of it's ideas in American politics and on Jan 6th, and explore the strong divergence that happened very early on between John Wimber (founder of the Vineyard movement) and C Peter Wagner, founder of the NAR. These episodes help us understand the role of Wimber's leadership in working to draw theological frameworks and create Biblical boundaries around a novel spiritual movement, what happened when those boundaries were ignored, and what we need to learn about temptations to power and followership of Jesus.https://icjs.org/charismatic-revival-fury/https://www.vineyardcolumbus.org/faqhttps://www.vineyardcolumbus.org/articles/ten-commitments-for-a-divisive-election-year

Art Pereira is the Director of Events and Partnerships at Revoice, a Christian ministry that seeks to support and encourage LGBTQ+/SSA Christians who follow a historic sexual ethic — and those who love them. Art is passionate about discipleship, friendship, and Biblical community, and his thinking on these topics has been featured in conferences, podcasts, and a national best-selling book.Instagram: art_per

Listen in as Pastor Eric Pickerill and Pastor Insoo Kim discuss foundational virtues and dive deeper into June's conversation with Rich Villodas. 

Listen in as Pastor Eric Pickerill, Pastor Insoo Kim and special guest Rich Villodas discuss foundational virtues.

Listen in as Julia, Hannah and Santos talk about practical ways we can build faith and community as they dive deeper into May's conversation about NextGen ministry. 

Do you want to be inspired about how next gen Christians are being formed in faith, giftings, and identity? Julia and VC Students Pastor Santos Chaparro interview one of our VC Middle School students (and amazing production volunteer!) and a volunteer college-age leader (who was about to head into finals week!) and ask about what church has meant for them, how wrestling through vulnerable questions about identity has brought them closer to God and community, how we can continue to encourage them in faith... and why the 400 meter hurdles might be one of the BEST metaphors for life and Christian discipleship, ever. Listen in to hear the heart of our students. If you have questions about getting involved in our student ministry at any campus, please email Hannah.Chaparro@vineyardcolumbus.org and she'll point you in the right direction. Also, this episode references a pastoral conversation around lgbt and faith formation... which might bring up some questions about our theology or pastoral practice. if you would like more understanding about VC's posture, theology, and pastoral practices in this space, check out www.vineyardcolumbus.org/faq and scroll down. 

What are practical ways we can steward the Earth? How do we lead our communities towards positive solutions to safeguard our cities, neighborhoods, and the next generation from the effects of a warming world and life-threatening pollution? As we gear up for Earth Day on April 22, Julia sits down with Pastor Jenney Rice to discuss creation care and why it matters.

For the month of April, we wanted to revisit an episode we aired a couple of years back about how followers of Jesus can be good stewards of our environment and think biblically about creation care. It's not an unpopular opinion today to say that Christians aren't necessarily known to care about the environment. But in this conversation, our executive pastor Daniel Nathan and co-senior pastor Eric Pickerill sit down with Rev. Mitchell Hescox – the President Emeritus of the Evangelical Environmental Network  - and hear Mitch unpack why he believes climate change and creation care is the greatest moral challenge of our time and how we can find opportunity for hope in building sustainable prosperity for all.Founded in 1993, EEN is a non-partisan, non-profit organization that equips, inspires and mobilizes people of faith to worship God and love their neighbor by caring for creation. Rev. Hescox has authored numerous books, has testified before Congress, has spoken at the White House, presented at the Vatican and the council for Foreign Relations. He's appeared on CNN, NPR, MSNBC amongst other radio and television programs. https://creationcare.org/https://www.amazon.com/Caring-Creation-Evangelicals-Climate-Environment/dp/0764218654

What does it look like to move toward beloved community?Julia and Eric sit down with Pastor Charles Montgomery and Pastor Adrienne Ash to talk about the upcoming Better Together conference at Vineyard Columbus.

Creative master Richard Smith III joins Eric and Julia for a continued conversation about spiritual construction, deconstruction, and restoration in a culture confronted with doubt. 

Whole hearted reconstruction may look differently for everyone when everything is on fire. What does it look like to hold to a firm foundation in the midst of renovations of the heart? Brian Zahnd is a full-time pastor, an occasional author, and a would-be mountaineer. He and his wife Peri founded Word of Life Church in St. Joseph, Missouri. Brian is the author of eleven books, including When Everything's on Fire and The Wood Between the Worlds.• twitter.com/BrianZahnd• instagram.com/brianzahnd• facebook.com/BrianZahnd• @brianzahnd@threads.net

Listen in as Julia and Adrienne talk about practical ways we can stop and choose friendship as they dive deeper into February's conversation with Ms. JoAnne Bland.

During her lifetime, JoAnne Bland has been a witness and participant in some of our nation's most consequential civil rights battles. She began her civil rights activism in the early 1960s. The Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) activists organized Bland and other area children and teenagers to participate in the civil rights movement. In the front lines of the struggle, the young Bland marched on "Bloody Sunday" and "Turn Around Tuesday," and the first leg of the successful March from Selma to Montgomery, witnessing brutal beatings of fellow marchers by police. The young Bland was also one of seven Black students to integrate A. G. Parish High School. By the time she was 11 years old Bland had been arrested 13 times. Ms. Bland's early involvement in the struggle against “Jim Crow” has been the foundation for her civil and human rights work throughout her life. She's a much sought after speaker with a compelling personal story of civil rights activism, and has spoken around the country. Currently, Ms. Bland is the owner and operator of Journeys For The Soul, a touring agency that specializes in Civil Rights tours with a major focus on Selma, Alabama.@ facebook.com/journeysforthesoulhttps://www.iamjoannebland.com/

Eric sits down with Pastor John Ma for a time of reflection and continued conversation about immigration and anxiety, as well as how we followers of Jesus can continue showing up as people who value others.

Welcome back! And happy 2024!Listen in to hear Julia and Eric alongside special guest and author, Curtis Chang, as they discuss belonging, anxiety, and ways we can embrace the immigrant and refugee. Curtis Chang is a theologian, consulting faculty member at Duke Divinity School, and senior fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. He consults with nonprofits and government agencies and has taught at public, private, and Christian universities. He also leads Redeeming Babel, a nonprofit bringing theological clarity to vexing cultural issues. He has partnered with Christian colleges and universities to help students navigate mental health and politics. He is co-host of the Good Faith podcast which discusses how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. His most recent project The After Party promotes a Christ-centered political identity to combat toxic polarization through a six-session online course and book releasing from Zondervan in April 2024. Curtis is a former senior pastor and author of several books including "The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self."Web: redeemingbabel.orgTwitter: @curtischangRBFacebook: /redeemingbabelInstagram: @redeemingbabelhttps://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/ministries/the-in-between-podcasthttps://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Power-Glory-Evangelicals-Extremism/dp/006322688X***Refugee Experience***Central Ohio has been a warm, welcoming city for immigrants and refugees for many years. Join us to learn more about newcomers in our area, the refugee resettlement process, and to difficulties newcomers face as they strive to be stable and successful here in Columbus. We will also learn about how we can lend a hand in this success by using our skills and talents to serve refugee families in the first few months of resettlement. Teresa Gibson, the Welcome Team Coordinator at CRIS (Community Refugee & Immigration Services) along with a refugee speaker will share and answer questions. February 21st from 7-8:30 pm. For more information, please visit: https://www.vineyardcolumbus.org/mission-ministries/international-ministries

Julia wraps up season 4 with a few words! Thanks for being with us!

Season 4, episode 22Two peoples, Jews and Palestinian Arabs, lay claim to the same piece of land. But who does it really belong to? Scripture, history, and contemporary politics add to the volatile conflict in the Middle East. Today we're joined by Rev. Colin Chapman, author of Whose Promised Land, to address the current, continuing conflict in the Middle East.Rev. Colin Chapman was born in India and brought up in Scotland. He was ordained in the Episcopal Church in Scotland and has taught at Coptic Evangelical Seminary, and served on staff at the Anglican Cathedral, in Cairo, Egypt. In the mid-70s, early 80s – Colin was the Regional Secretary for the Middle East with IFES (the International Fellowship of Evangelical Students) based in Beirut, Lebanon. He taught at Trinity College in Bristol, and taught Islamic Studies at Near East School of Theology, in Beirut, Lebanon. Since retirement, Colin has also taught at Arab Baptist Theological Seminary, Beirut, and Bethlehem Bible College. Resources:https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/whose-promised-land-the-continuing-conflict-over-israel-and-palestinehttps://www.amazon.com/Christian-Zionism-Restoration-Israel-Scriptures/dp/1725297337https://www.holylandtrust.org/aboutBooks of the Bible for meditation during times of violence:Lamentations; Habakkuk; Daniel

Season 4, episode 21For this episode we revisit our 2022 interview with Pastor Andy Smith from the Belfast Vineyard about freedom from oppression - specifically as it relates to spiritual warfare and deliverance. Andy along with his wife Harmony have led Belfast City Vineyard since 2002. They also serve as Regional Leaders for the Vineyard Churches in Ireland, and have two teenagers.

Season 4, Episode 20How should we think about miracles? Are they simply something Jesus did? Do miracles happen today? Why are we so skeptical when people say they've witnessed a miraculous healing or supernatural event? In this episode, Dr. Craig Keener shares the concrete evidence he's discovered for reasonable belief in modern-day miracles.Craig S. Keener (PhD, Duke University) is F. M. and Ada Thompson Professor of Biblical Studies at Asbury Theological Seminary. He is author of thirty-four books, with some 1.4 million copies in circulation. The books have won thirteen national or international awards, including six in Christianity Today. These include The IVP Bible Background Commentary: New Testament and major academic commentaries. He has also authored roughly one hundred academic articles; seven booklets; and roughly two hundred popular-level articles. In 2020 Craig was president of the Evangelical Theological Society. Craig is married to Dr. Médine Moussounga Keener, who was a refugee in her home country of Congo for eighteen months; her experience and their romance appears in Impossible Love (Chosen, 2016).BlogYouTube ChannelTwitter (X)Miracles Today

Season 4, Episode 19Leadership covers the continuum of time. How can we honor the past, be attentive to the present, and envision the future as influencers? Listen in as Jay Pathak, VUSA national director, reminds us how we can help people navigate every season well.Jay Pathak is the National Director of Vineyard USA. He also serves as the Lead Pastor of the Mile High Vineyard, a family of neighborhood churches in Denver, Colorado. Jay co-wrote a book called The Art of Neighboring: Building Genuine Relationships Right Outside Your Door back in 2012. Jay regularly thinks of ministry in context of culture and developing relationships and partnerships in the city, government, and across denominational lines. Jay has led in various contexts throughout the Vineyard starting as an intern for Rich Nathan here at Vineyard Columbus in his early ministry days, and stretching into various positions of trans-local leadership including serving on the Vineyard USA Executive Team for many years. He is a sought-after speaker and coach and has a BA in Philosophy from The Ohio State University and is a graduate of the Vineyard Leadership Institute. Jay met his wife, Danielle, in high school and they were married in 1998; they have two beautiful daughters, Jasmine and Sofia. 1. Vinyard USA2. The Art of Neighboring

Season 4, Episode 18Jim Herrington has been a pastor and pastor to pastors for 35 years. He is the co-author of three books, including The Leader's Journey, and he is the co-founder of Faithwalking, a spiritual formation process that equips people to live missionally. He is the co-owner of a leadership development/coaching company also called The Leader's Journey. He and his wife, Betty, live in Houston, Texas, and have five children and six grandchildren.Books and Social Media:• The Leader's Journey: Accepting the Call to Personal and Congregational Transformation• Leading Congregational Change : A Practical Guide for the Transformational Journey• Learning Change: Congregational Transformation Fueled by Personal Renewal• The Leaders Journey Podcast• JHerrington - Facebook

Season 4, Episode 17This coming November, Ohioans are going to see a proposed amendment on their ballot. You can find a link to the text of that amendment in our shownotes. There's been a lot of emotion in Ohio right now about reproductive rights / abortion - and also a lot of confusion. This past summer, we held a special election here that was aimed at changing our Ohio Constitution to make it HARDER to pass ANY kind of constitutional amendment. That had a surprisingly large turnout, and failed... and while it didn't specifically engage the question of abortion access, it was certainly levied by political conservatives as a protection against what's coming on this coming November's ballot from progressive side of this conversation. The idea was to make it more difficult to pass any amendment to Ohio's constitution and since it didn't pass... the standard rules remain: to pass an amendment to Ohio's constitution, it takes a simple majority vote, or 51%. In other words, this coming vote needs over 50% to embed the measure into our constitution. What we want to do in today's special episode is to clearly explain what the proposed amendment says, means, and doesn't say. We want to also lay out what is real currently regarding Ohio law, abortion access, and the realities about care for women and children. We're doing this because we believe strongly in demonstrating a consistent ethic of life... which comes from our fundamental belief as Christians that all are made in the Image of God, and all life is to be treated with honor and dignity... especially the lives of those most vulnerable, as scripture says over and over again. Christians can and do disagree about policy... about what particular ways are the best ways to legislate in support of a consistent ethic of life. So we want to help equip you to prayerfully discern this policy issue at hand... and to consider wisely and Christianly how to engage in this ballot issue. You can find more about our consistent ethic of life through a link that's also in our show notes.Shownotes:AmendmentOther In-Between Conversations:S3E16: Human Dignity And Our Value Life EthicS2E18: Rebuilding A Culture That Values LifeTwitter: @stephkrider AND @RichNathanFacebook

Season 4, Episote 16In a world where culture celebrates their own definiton of exceptionalism, Dr. Esau McCaulley shares his courageous journey of finding space to honor all human stories. Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD is an associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL. He is the author of many works including Sharing in the Son's Inheritance and the Children's Book Josie Johnson Hair and the Holy Spirit. His book Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope won numerous awards, including Christianity Today's book of the year. His latest project is a memoir entitled: How far to the Promise Land: One Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South. He is a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. His writings have also appeared in places such as The Atlantic, Washington Post, and Christianity Today. He is married to Mandy, a pediatrician and navy reservist. Together, they have four wonderful children. FacebookTwitterInstagram

Season 4, Episode 15The term influencer has come to be known across social media platforms as people who have knowledge or expertise in certain areas of life and culture. But what does a Christian influencer look like? Listen in as Elizabeth Ranade Janis shares about her personal journey of advocacy and leadership on our first episode of the Influencer Series. Elizabeth Ranade Janis serves as Senior Safeguarding Advisor for World Vision where she leads United States' efforts to prevent harm and abuse of vulnerable children and adults served through relief and development programs around the world. Over the last 15 years, Elizabeth has built and championed large-scale programs, policies and initiatives to serve and empower vulnerable, marginalized and exploited individuals domestically and abroad. She has led the Ohio Human Trafficking Task Force, created by Governor John R. Kasich. Elizabeth also developed and worked to implement the first comprehensive statewide response to sex and labor trafficking. She has previously worked in international humanitarian relief and anti-human trafficking programs in Eastern Europe and Southern Africa. In recent years, she also served as Executive Director for a Christian legal aid organization in Northern Virginia and has provided strategy consulting to various anti-human trafficking NGOs. Elizabeth holds a Master's Degree in Public Policy from Georgetown University and a Bachelor's Degree in International Development from the Ohio State University. She lives in Arlington, Virginia with her husband James and their two children. In her spare time, Elizabeth can be found in her hammock with a good book.LinkedIn

Season 4, Episode 14Everyone has something to give when it comes to leadership. As Christian leaders, we carry influence - how we lead matters. Listen in as Julia interviews Eric and Adrienne about their personal leadership stories and hear about what's next for our influencer sermon series.

Season 4, Episode 13In today's culture, everyone is an activist. People have zeal for numerous causes, but it's sometimes not easy to translate that zeal into real action of doing small things. Real life compassion in action is often not glamorous - it's behind the scenes, and it requires investment over the long haul. Today we are joined by two folks who know a lot about the real work of compassion. Janice has been a member of Vineyard Columbus for 25 years this Summer. She and her husband Paul will celebrate 24 years of marriage this September and live in Westerville. Janice is a licensed Doctor of Pharmacy, having graduated from the WVU School of Pharmacy 31 years ago. Since retiring from full-time work in cancer research in 2018, she maintains involvement with the WVU SOP serving as a board member on the Leadership Council. She enjoys volunteering with our VCC Health Clinic, Westerville Area Resource Ministries and also gives of her time to two local animal welfare organizations. Sammy started attending Vineyard Columbus shortly after she and her husband moved to the area in the Fall of 2021. Sammy is an EMT and has a Masters in Public Health with a concentration in international health, disaster health, and emergency preparedness. Before becoming the Health Clinics Coordinator at Vineyard Columbus, Sammy worked on a disaster assistance response team responding to needs in several countries including Mongolia, Haiti, and Ukraine. She also spent time working on a critical care ambulance in Los Angeles, California. In her free time, she enjoys gardening, biking, traveling, and cooking.Next week, Vineyard Columbus is launching into Compassion Week – a time we get to serve our communities and love our city. Last year we were able to help over 50,000 people, and this summer we're hoping to make that number even greater! Maybe you're in the Central Ohio area and you're looking for ways to demonstrate compassion in action. You can sign up for one of our upcoming opportunities to serve our city during Compassion Week, August 6 - 12. We've got everything from park clean-ups to sitting on your couch, ordering things off an Amazon wish list for a neighborhood elementary school. You can learn about these opportunities and more at www.vineyardcolumbus.org/compassion-week.Salt and Light article

Julia interviews Matt about his book on sin as emergent in Paul's letter to the Romans, and what on earth that might have to do with his work at Yale as assistant research scholar and director for the Life Worth Living Program. Matt Croasmun is an Associate Research Scholar and the Director of the Life Worth Living program at the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School and a Lecturer of Divinity and Humanities at Yale University. He is also a staff pastor at the Elm City Vineyard Church in New Haven, CT. Matt's deepest passion is for teaching. He believes education should help us learn, most of all, what it means to be human and how to discern the nature of true life. Matt earned his B.A. in Music from Yale College and an M.A.R. in Bible from Yale Divinity School. After the Divinity degree, he and his wife Hannah spent a summer at the Akrofi-Christaller Institute in Akropong-Akuapem, Ghana, studying with the great African theologian, Kwame Bediako, whose work has profoundly impacted the way Matt sees theology and culture. Matt then returned to Yale for his Ph.D. in Religious Studies (New Testament). Matt has also authored numerous books including: Life Worth Living: A Guide To What Matters MostThe Emergence of Sin: The Cosmic Tyrant in RomansThe Hunger for Home: Food and Meals in the Gospel of LukeLet Me Ask You a Question: Conversations with JesusFor the Life of the World: Theology That Makes a DifferenceMatthew Croasmun

Season 4, Episode 12Alan Johnson is an Indiana native and 1973 graduate of Indiana University with a degree in journalism and political science. He spent 44 years as a newspaper reporter, winning state and national awards for his coverage of government, mental health, prisons, human trafficking, and human-interest stores. Alan wrote for the Columbus Dispatch where he covered most of Ohio's 54 executions over 18 years, including serving as an in-person media witness for 21 years.Alan enrolled at Asbury Theological Seminary in 2008, later earning a Master's in Ministry (2014) and Doctor of Ministry (2020) from Ashland Theological Seminary.He authored a book, Death and Forgiveness, My Capital Punishment Witness, in 2022.Columbus Dispatch ArticleAtlantic Article

Season 4, Episode 10Dr. Barbara L. Peacock. Barbara is a spiritual director, author, and preacher. She is the founder of Barbara L. Peacock Ministries, a ministry committed to developing disciples through prayer, spiritual direction, soul care, mentoring, and teaching. Dr. Peacock enjoys traveling, writing, exercising, eating good food and playing games like Scrabble, Every Word and Sudoku. She has been married to her husband Gilbert for 42 years. Barbara has a Doctor of Ministry with a focus on spiritual formation for ministry leaders from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. She authored the award-winning book, Soul Care in African American Practice, in 2020 and has an upcoming book release, Spiritual Practices for Soul Care: 40 Ways to Deepen Your Faith, set for August 2023. Books:https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/soul-care-in-african-american-practice https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/ministries/the-in-between-podcastBIO:https://www.ivpress.com/barbara-l-peacockWebsite: barbaralpeacock.comWebsite: peacocksoulcare.comLinkedin: Barbara Peacock

We're hearing a lot of commencement speeches right now. Highschoolers and young adults are being told to follow their dreams, and some are thinking..."what do I want to do or be? How can I know myself, or choose a vocation? What's next in this phase of life?" We're joined today by our Vineyard Columbus counseling center director, Dr. David Hartman. David brings a breadth of academic and professional experiences to his work. He has masters degrees in sociology and clinical mental health counseling and a doctorate in counselor education as well as training in human-centered design and user experience design. Prior to becoming the director at Vineyard Counseling Center, he worked in social research, academia, and corporate training and development. His areas of curiosity and research interest have to do with identity, career, and life transitions."Dave has been a member of Vineyard Columbus for over 20 years!

Season 4 Episode 7How to Shut Up, Listen, and Believe"Multicultural relationships are a vaccine to the terrible virus of racism" - Dr. David AndersonHere at Vineyard Columbus, part of our mission statement is to develop multi-ethnic communities of disciples. Multicultural ministry is interwoven into our Christian heritage and guaranteed as the fullness of God's promised Kingdom. It's a big deal to us here on the In-Between. But doing the work of multicultural ministry is much more than fellowship and Sunday morning niceties. Today we're joined by two experts who will be sharing about doing the hard work of building and sustaining multicultural ministry through the art of radical inclusion. Dr. Dave Anderson is the founder and President of Gracism Global- one of the world's leading authorities on bridging the deep divides of race, faith, culture, and wealth. Known as the bridge-building voice in the Nation's Capital, Anderson hosts the daily radio talk show "Real Talk with Dr. David Anderson" – the most listened to Christian talk station on the East Coast. As the founder and senior pastor of Bridgeway Community Church, Dr. Anderson reaches a multicultural congregation of over 10,000 weekly attendees from more than 60 nations, viewed online in over 100 countries, with locations in Columbia and Owings Mills, Maryland. He authored a book, Gracism, The Art of Inclusion, in 2007 which we will be discussing today. We're also joined by Pastor David Heiliger - the director of Gracism Global, a diversity consulting firm committed to equipping transformational leaders for the sake of racial healing. David is also the Pastor of Multicultural Bridge Building at Bridgeway Community Church in Columbia, Maryland, where over 60 different nations are represented in the church body. David graduated from the Center for Justice and Peace-building at Eastern Mennonite University with a Master's Degree in Conflict Transformation. He is training for his first Half Ironman and loves spending time outdoors with his wife, Julie, and their 8-year-old daughter.https://gracismglobal.com/ https://andersonspeaks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-heiliger-01081939/ https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/gracism-the-art-of-inclusion?rq=gracism

Season 4 Episode 6This week, Julia and Eric sit down with Dr. David Lamb, Missio Seminary Professor, and Dean of Faculty. David loves to teach the Bible and he loves to give others a love for God's Word. Listen in as Dr. Lamb unpacks the emotions and character of God throughout Old Testament scripture, and what that means for us today as both Image Bearers and followers of Jesus. https://davidtlamb.com/Twitter: @DavidTLambBooks:1. https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/the-emotions-of-god-making-sense-of-a-god-who-hates-weeps-and-loves2. https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/god-behaving-badly-is-the-god-of-the-old-testament-angry-sexist-and-racist

Season 4 Episode 5"Just like the Apostle Paul said, 'We take our ordinary, walking around life and animate it with the Spirit of Christ!"- Dr. DeYoungSo often when we hear the word sin, it conjures up legalistic rules in our minds or a boundary we better not break. But what if the Seven Deadly Sins actually point us to more than a set of rules? What if they serve as a self-diagnostic tool which may instead facilitate a life of formation and Christ-likeness?Dr. Rebecca Deyoung has enjoyed teaching ethics and the history of ancient and medieval philosophy at Calvin University for 25 years. Her research focuses on the seven deadly sins, and virtue ethics, as well as Thomas Aquinas's work on the virtues. She's written extensively about various vices and virtues – one of those books, Glittering Vices (A New Look at the Seven Deadly Sins and Their Remedies) we will be discussing today. Awards for her work include the Book and Essay Prize from the Character Project and the C.S. Lewis prize for Glittering Vices. She speaks widely, including opportunities to teach in prison. She and her family live in Grand Rapids, near the beautiful Lake Michigan shoreline.https://calvin.edu/directory/people/rebecca-konyndyk-deyounghttps://philpeople.org/profiles/rebecca-deyoungAtlantic Article Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/legalized-gambling-marijuana-use-addiction/673028/Book link: https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/glittering-vices"You may notice some minor audio glitches in this recording - we apologize, as we are trying something new! Please do listen through to the end - this is a great conversation you won't want to miss!"

Season 4 Episode 4Dr. John KimJust a couple of weeks ago, the largest bank failure since 2008, Silicon Valley Bank, failed. In reaction, people today are experiencing vast financial woes and appropriate questions. "What should I do with my money, how can I spot a good investment, did cryptocurrency really collapse, should I lean towards being risk averse or risk tolerant?” Today we're discussing how we as followers of Jesus can best avoid common finance pitfalls while learning and cultivating the art of financial wisdom. How can we really discern the difference between finances and fairy tales?John Kim is an entrepreneur, investor, church planter and pastor. He is the founder of Bored Room Ventures- a Web3/Blockchain agency and venture fund.  He also founded the Karamaan Group, a long-term investing firm that takes ownership interests in public and private companies. Previously, he was a partner at MSD Capital – the family office overseeing the assets of Michael Dell. John received his Ph.D. in economics from MIT focused on Game Theory and Finance, and did his B.A. at Harvard University studying applied math and economics. He currently teaches algebra at a correctional facility.John is a member of the Board of Trustees of Vineyard USA, and also a Board member of Vineyard Manhattan in New York City.  He and his wife Kara and son Samuel reside in midtown Manhattan.  John is a long-suffering NY Knicks fan, and reckons himself an expert on burgers, sandwiches, and donuts!https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-kim-15403131/Resources/Links:1. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/17/business/retirement/rising-debt-falling-income-how-to-dig-out.html2. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/your-money/credit-card-debt-economy.html3. VC Sermon:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q-Lha-xQ6jeP4L5bCTXafKMGS7SfoSxi/view4. VC Sermon: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xi0iKas8H8b96rBMNfbI1sQ2JW4h8Ys9/view

Season 4 Episode 3Dr. Lathania Butler:"We make tools and we use tools. The moment we start looking to tools to fill ANY relational need, we are setting ourselves up to commit the most age old form of idolatry. So when we read the Old Testament and think it's ridiculous that people are worshiping golden calfs or wooden figures, we should think about ourselves and how we are engaging with materials that are meant to be tools- like phones and chatbots." -Dr Lathania ButlerLathania is a public policy expert turned data practitioner. She loves to nerd out on economic ideas and artificial intelligence strategies but is also deeply committed to promoting justice and truth in the world. She has followed Jesus for 18 years on winding paths and to miraculous places, and now regularly meets Him in playtime with her daughter and son who she shares with her husband, Davonte.Lathania has her B.A. in Neuroscience, a master's degree in Public Administration, and her PhD in Public Policy Analysis (The Ohio State University). Lathania has been a member of Vineyard Columbus for over 13 years@lathaniab on Twitter and Instagram

Season 4 Episode 2Julia and Eric sit down with Dr. J Richard Middleton, professor of biblical worldview and exegesis at Northeastern Seminary in Rochester, NY. He is a native of Jamaica and is the past president of the Canadian-American Theological Association (2011–2014) and the Canadian Society of Biblical Studies (2019–2021). His main research area is biblical theology (especially the Old Testament) with a focus on creation, suffering, eschatology, and the ethics of power.For more on Dr. Middleton, please follow:https://jrichardmiddleton.com/https://www.facebook.com/jrichard.middleton/https://www.linkedin.com/in/j-richard-middleton-4058b052/https://roberts.academia.edu/JRichardMiddletonhttps://twitter.com/JRichMiddleton

Season 4 Episode 1Eric interviews author, entrepreneur, and public relations expert Jennifer R. Farmer. She is host of the award-winning United Women in Faith, Faith Talks podcast. She is also president of the board of directors for Alabama Values. Farmer founded and runs Spotlight PR LLC, a boutique public relations firm supporting social and racial justice leaders and campaigns.Farmer is the author of “First and Only: A Black Woman's Guide to Thriving at Work and in Life,” which received an ‘Outstanding Book Award' from the National Association of Black Journalists and was also featured on United Women in Faith's Reading List. Of all her accomplishments, Farmer is most proud to be called “mom” and devotes herself to her two children. She's a member here at Vineyard Columbus and also participates in our Kingdom Builders group!Website: JenniferRFarmer.org and www.spotlightpr.orgInstagram: @pr_whisperer Podcast: https://uwfaith.org/resources/podcasts/Author:  First and Only: A Black Woman's Guide to Thriving at Work and in LifeComments? Questions? Suggestions? Reach out to us at podcast@vineyardcolumbus.org Thank you for listening!

Eric and Julia introduce the new video format of The In Between podcast (available here) and what to expect in season 4. Don't worry. You can still continue to catch the audio version of the podcast through your favorite podcasting app.

Julia and Adrienne wrap up season three of The In Between podcast, look at stories from Alpha, and recount Adrienne's FANTASTIC mac 'n cheese incident from last year's Thanksgiving.