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Roam Shoot Ep1 The Launch, What PRC Caliber is Right for me? Welcome to Roam Shoot. Powered by Experience Wild. Host: Eric(Skeeter) Beckman. Guest/Cohost: Nate Rozeveld ExperienceWild10 at Brenton USA for 10% off entire order on the site Join us for an engaging deep dive into the evolution of hunting technology, firearm calibers, and personal experiences from seasoned outdoorsmen. Whether you're a hunter, shooter, or just curious about the latest gear, this episode provides valuable insights into how advancements are changing the game. Key Topics Covered: Origin stories and how passion for hunting develops over time The impact of thermal imaging and optics on coyote hunting Differences between trapping and night shooting for coyotes The evolution of firearm calibers: PRC, ARC, and traditional rounds Building and customizing AR platforms for hunting The economics and considerations of high-end optics and gear Legal considerations around suppressors, firearm parts, and traveling with gear The future of rifle technology, including new calibers like the 338 ARC Techniques for shooting and improving accuracy with night vision/scopes Tips for passing down firearm knowledge to the next generation Brenton USA Roam Syndicate Vitalize Seed Ina Store Deer Hunter Synthetics Wildlife Legends Taxidermy Find It Fred Note: This episode is packed with practical tips, personal stories, and expert insights — perfect for hunters wanting to stay ahead with gear and technique! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
If you thought Part 1 was wild, wait for this. In Part 2, we get down and dirty… religion (yep, my dad said NO to Tom), smashing gender roles, why chores start so many fights, what's ACTUALLY happening in the bedroom after 25 years, and how we survived me going from silent-housewife to boardroom boss. We're talking about how we keep our marriage spicy (even when hormones go haywire), why I still make Tom's snacks (well, sometimes), and the honest truth on resenting each other about laundry and dishes and “who does more.” If you've ever wondered how to totally rethink your love life, face the little annoyances, and STILL want to rip each other's clothes off (most days) after decades, get in here. SHOWNOTES Sex, porn, and mismatched drives – the honest realityHow we handle rejection, desires, and open communication Why I don't resent Tom for the “chores” & the Will Smith moment Perimenopause, hormones, and why divorce rates skyrocket How to argue, course-correct & never stop growing as a couple Who leads? Masculine/feminine balance and not losing yourself From stay-at-home to business partner – surviving identity shifts Chores, resentment, and division of emotional labor The “how do you stay in love?” secret Thank you to our sponsors: Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/lisa Microperfumes: 60% off at https://microperfumes.com/woi Follow Tom Bilyeu:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Newsletter: https://tombilyeu.com/billion-dollar-principles Starting a business? Join me inside Zero to Founder: https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder FOLLOW LISA BILYEU: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisabilyeu/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/womenofimpact Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lisa_bilyeu?lang=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisabilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
San Jose Sharks legendary goalie Evgeni Nabokov speaks to coaching young Sharks talent, how the Olympic break can effect players, and the differences between the game when he dominated vs nowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
As the full-scale invasion of Ukraine enters its fifth year, resistance to Russian occupation has undergone a radical transformation. The public displays of defiance that defined the war's early days — with civilians blocking tanks and holding street protests — have long been crushed by the Kremlin's ruthless occupation regime. By blending systematic brutality, bureaucracy, and pervasive surveillance, Russia has sought to extinguish dissent and erase Ukrainian identity in occupied regions. But this has only forced the resistance deeper underground. In this episode of The Naked Pravda, deputy editor Eilish Hart sits down with Dr. Jade McGlynn, the head of the Ukraine and Russia program at the Center for Statecraft and National Security at King's College London, to discuss this shift. Drawing on her extensive field research and recent report for the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Dr. McGlynn analyzes how resistance efforts have adapted to survive life behind the front lines. Time stamps for this episode: (2:36) Early resistance and public defiance in occupied Ukraine(10:43) Organized resistance and intelligence(14:23) Differences across Ukraine's occupied territories(24:20) The challenges of researching Ukrainian resistance(30:08) Diplomatic efforts and perceptions in UkraineКак поддержать нашу редакцию — даже если вы в России и вам очень страшно
San Jose Sharks legendary goalie Evgeni Nabokov speaks to coaching young Sharks talent, how the Olympic break can effect players, and the differences between the game when he dominated vs nowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In the spirit of Valentine's Day, we're talking about how to build a stronger financial partnership - from financial date nights and shared accounts to the subtle social norms that still influence modern couples. Today's guest is Dr. Emily Garbinsky, professor at Cornell's Johnson School of Business, whose work explores how couples make financial decisions, how pooling money affects relationship satisfaction, and what really happens when one partner earns more than the other. Learn more about Dr. Garbinsky's research here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
To my Ladies, Today's episode was such a difficult one for me, but I felt called to record it because these issues are tearing soooooo many couples and families apart, and it's time we talk about it! This is me being really extremely vulnerable as I have a conversation with my husband about something that's been sitting heavy for a long time. I run a female empowerment channel. I love this show. I love you guys. I'm here to encourage women to be freaking badass. And yet… my husband voted for Trump. A man I despise! And when that came out publicly? The backlash was real. And I've been navigating our relationship, our differences, and how the hell I even talk about this… for almost a year. So today, I'm bringing my hubby on because we're finally having the conversation no one wants to have. The conversation people are too afraid to touch. I've had so many women come to me quietly like, “Lisa, don't tell anyone, but…” and then it's either their partner voted for Trump and they're terrified of the backlash, or they voted for Trump themselves and feel like they have to stay silent. And when that many people feel like they have to hide? Something is wrong!!! Relationships can't thrive when you're walking on eggshells and pretending. So I wanted to be real. I wanted to be honest. And I wanted to show you what it looks like to love someone deeply and still have differences… politics, religion, all of it. I'm Greek Orthodox, he's atheist. We've navigated this for 25 years. It hasn't always been easy… but it's been doable. And here's the key: we've never lost respect for each other and we've never abandoned ourselves! I don't expect everyone to “love” this episode. I get it. Everyone has their opinions. But this isn't about politics. This is about how you stay connected when you don't agree. How you actually hear your partner. How you handle different views without trying to tear each other down. Because let me be really real, I love my husband more than anything on this planet and his political and religious beliefs hasn't and won't ever change that. So if you're that person, if you want to understand your partner and navigate differences while still being incredibly happy and solid, please listen with open ears, open eyes, and an open mind. Because if we can learn to have honest conversations with grace, love, respect and without trying to destroy each other? Oh my God… I truly believe we can build a different world. And it all starts with being brave…. Much Love, Lisa B SHOWNOTES Trump, feminism, and the fallout – surviving public backlash The “North Star” in marriage vs. politics Economic collapse, history lessons & ugly truths Abortion – my story, my shame, and working through pain together Globalization, jobs, and why immigration is so damn messy What if Trump “turned” on me? – loyalty, fear, and family first Can you be a Women's advocate AND married to someone with opposite views? Building on CORE values, not political headlines Interfaith marriages – Greek Orthodox vs. Atheist & mutual respect Raising kids (if we had them!) and value collisions Sex, porn, and mismatched drives – the honest reality Thank you to our sponsors: Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/lisa Microperfumes: 60% off at https://microperfumes.com/woi Follow Tom Bilyeu: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Newsletter: https://tombilyeu.com/billion-dollar-principles Starting a business? Join me inside Zero to Founder: https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder FOLLOW LISA BILYEU: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisabilyeu/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/womenofimpact Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lisa_bilyeu?lang=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisabilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
I recently learnt that not everyone thinks the same way I do. In fact, there are some areas in which our brains differ greatly. For me, this is a fascinating topic. How do I know the green colour you see, is the same as the green colour I see?In this episode, I share a few different ways in which our brains are different, and what this might mean for us living our daily lives, and the implications as language learners. So if you want to learn more about your brain and how it works, listen to this episode, and don't forget to share your own experiences in the comments.Show notes page - https://levelupenglish.school/podcast363➡️ Join the Free Mini Course - https://www.levelupenglish.school/mini⭐️ Join Level Up English - https://www.levelupenglish.schoolBecome a member and get:Podcast TranscriptsPrivate PodcastGroup ClassesPrivate CoachingAnd over 500 online lessons! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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MLS is back on Sorare, and with it comes a fresh set of decisions around how — and how much — to play the league this season.I'm joined by Harry Trades, GatorGuy231, and SorareDeke to preview MLS on Sorare, including:• What the return of MLS means for the platform right now• How early auctions and supply shape the market heading into the season• How prize pools, leaderboards, and Hot Streaks should influence strategy• Differences in approach across Limited, Rare, and Super Rare• What we're prioritizing (and avoiding) as the season kicks offWhether you're an MLS regular or deciding if this is the year to dive in, this stream is all about setting expectations and approaching MLS with a clear plan.
About the Guest(s):Meaghan Dowd is a seasoned insurance expert with a deep passion for risk management and proactive financial protection. She began her career in the insurance brokerage industry, focusing primarily on high-end coverage solutions before transitioning to HolistaPlan, where she plays a pivotal role in advancing insurance analysis software. Meaghan's career is distinguished by her commitment to elevating advisors' capabilities in insurance planning, having successfully leveraged her expertise to help advisors integrate comprehensive insurance reviews into their client service models.Episode Summary:Join Amy Irvine, CEO and founder of Rooted Planning Group, as she welcomes insurance specialist Meaghan Dowd to the Money Roots podcast for an enlightening discussion on the often-overlooked aspects of financial planning: protection products. In this episode, Amy and Meaghan explore the crucial role that home, auto, and liability insurance play in safeguarding one's assets and income. Meaghan shares her journey into the insurance industry, emphasizing the proactiveness of risk management and how crucial it is to have the right insurance policies in place to prevent financial disasters.As the conversation unfolds, the focus shifts to the intricacies of insurance policies, from understanding the difference between replacement and actual cash value to recognizing the importance of stress-testing your insurance coverage. Meaghan outlines common oversights, such as disregarding liabilities attached to lifestyle choices, including pool installations, board memberships, and motorized vehicle ownership. The episode underscores how vital it is to maintain regular communication with your insurance agent and how choosing the right insurance partner can drastically affect the claims process and overall satisfaction. These insights promise to offer listeners practical guidance on ensuring they are adequately prepared for the unexpected.Key Takeaways:Understanding the need for the right type of insurance coverage is essential for transferring risk and protecting both assets and income.Differences between replacement cost and actual cash value can significantly impact claim payouts and should be carefully considered in policy selection.Regularly reviewing and adjusting insurance policies to reflect lifestyle changes and potential liabilities can prevent inadequate coverage.The choice of insurance company plays a crucial role in the claims experience and can ultimately influence both financial and emotional outcomes.Engaging with your insurance agent annually can help align your coverage with any changes in your situation, providing peace of mind.Notable Quotes:"Insurance is really planning ahead, where attorneys kind of wait for worst-case scenarios to happen.""It's not just can the insurance write the check for us, but it's can they support me mentally?""You outgrow your coverages, and it might not be because you moved into a new home or bought a new car.""Insurance is not a maintenance program. It is here for those losses that would financially devastate you.""If...
There is no such thing as irreconcilable differences, says Jill in this series. God is in the reconciliation business! God created us differently, so He must have had a reason! To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/1141/29?v=20251111
In this heartfelt, faith-centered episode, Lindsey Maestas and Lenya Heitzig have a powerful conversation inspired by Sheologie's core message of "calling women up, not out": a reminder that growth happens through truth and not shame. P.S. Have you read my new book, Don't Burn Your Own House Down, yet?! We are still in launch month so EVERY bit of support from this community helps!! I have a goal of selling 120 books this week!! If you're single or engaged, this book will prepare your heart for marriage. If you've been married for 1-50 years, I wrote this book to help you become more intentional with your time and energy toward the most important relationship in your life! Please gift it to a friend and share on social, and once you've read it, please put your review on Amazon, Barnes & Target! Every bit helps. In this conversation with Lenya, we explore how our thoughts shape who we become, why people-pleasing often disguises itself as love, and how emotional overfunctioning can hinder us from trusting God in our relationships. If you ever find yourself trying to control outcomes, rescue others, or manage everyone's emotions, it's easy to create pressure rather than peace. Lindsey and Lenya discuss how: What you think about consistently shapes who you are becoming People pleasing can turn into trying to save someone who isn't even willing to save themselves Overhelping friends can actually interrupt what Jesus is trying to teach them Emotional triggers in marriage don't have to explode into conflict, they can be gently deconstructed Therapy, self-awareness, and faith can work together in healing Differences in marriage don't have to collide, they can become places of laughter, humility, and compromise Fear can cause us to "lasso" our spouse and limit the very growth God is inviting them into This episode is for the woman who feels responsible for everyone's well-being, who carries anxiety about her marriage, or who struggles to release control and trust God with the people she loves most. I pray you walk away with a clearer understanding of emotional boundaries, spiritual surrender, and how to stop trying to be the Holy Spirit in someone else's life. Learn more about Reload Love here!
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Philip Shaw offers a Canadian farmer's view on trade tensions, tariffs, and the future of North American agriculture.
Dr. Kathryn Paige Harden, PhD, is a psychologist, behavioral geneticist and professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin. We discuss how genes interact with your upbringing to shape your level of risk-taking and morality. We also discuss how genes shape propensity for addiction and impulsivity in males versus females. Finally, we discuss how biology impacts societal views of sinning, punishment and forgiveness. Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com. Pre-order Protocols: https://go.hubermanlab.com/protocols Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman Lingo: https://hellolingo.com/huberman Our Place: https://fromourplace.com/huberman Helix Sleep: https://helixsleep.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Kathryn Paige Harden (00:03:10) Adolescents, Genes & Life Trajectory; Adolescence Ages (00:06:44) Puberty, Aging & Differences; Epigenome; Cognition (00:14:05) Sponsors: BetterHelp & Lingo (00:16:45) Puberty Onset & Family; Communication & Empathy (00:22:26) 7 Deadly Sins, Substance Use & Conduct Disorders, Genes (00:27:33) Family History; Genes & Brain Development (00:33:05) Personality & Temperament, Motivation, Addiction; Trauma (00:37:59) Knowing Genetic Risk & Outcomes; Understanding Family History (00:46:06) Sponsor: AG1 (00:46:57) Genetic Information & Decision Making; Personal Identity & Uncovering Family (00:52:12) Nature vs Nurture, Bad Genes?; Aggression, Childhood & Males (01:00:17) The Original Sin; Whitman Case & Brain Tumor; Genetic Predisposition (01:10:31) Free Will; Genes & Moral Judgement; Skillful Care for Kids; Social Cooperation (01:21:03) Breaking the Cycle; Genetic Recombination & Differences; Identity (01:25:21) Sponsor: Our Place (01:27:01) Status, Dominance, Science; Positive Attributes of Negative Traits (01:36:15) Relational Aggression & Girls; Male-Female Differences & Conflict (01:40:36) Genes, Boys vs Girls, Impulse Control (01:45:00) Behavior Punishment vs Rewards, Responsibility (01:51:29) Sponsor: Helix Sleep (01:53:03) Accountability; Suffering, Cancel Culture & Punishment (02:00:01) Life Energy & Punishment, Prison (02:08:16) Backward vs Forward-Looking Justice; Forgiveness, Retribution, Power, Choice (02:16:11) Reward, Unfairness & Inequality (02:21:59) Punishment, Reward & Power; Online vs In-Person Communities (02:29:49) Identical Twin Differences; Genetic Influence & Age; Sunlight & Genes (02:39:24) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This episode is a special collaboration between Beyond 6 Seconds and the Living with FASD podcast hosted by Patti Kasper. Fetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASD) are lifelong conditions caused by prenatal alcohol exposure that can impact physical, cognitive, and behavioral development. FASD is a type of neurodivergence, but it's often left out of conversations about neurodivergence. This episode is part of a series that Patti is doing on her podcast to help bring FASD into those conversations. We discuss what communication differences can feel like for people with certain types of neurodivergence, such as FASD, autism (including apraxia in non-speaking autism), ADHD, and schizophrenia. We also explore why communication challenges can happen, and how friends and loved ones can help provide understanding and support. A quick caveat: This conversation is not medical or diagnostic advice, and it does not speak for every neurodivergent person. Instead, Patti and I are sharing our own experiences and some insights from the people we've interviewed on our podcasts. You can find Living with FASD podcast on Apple, Audible, Patreon, Pocket Casts, Rumble and YouTube, and connect with Patti at dot.cards/yourfasdcoach. Do the things we mention in this episode match your experience as a neurodivergent person? Do you have other experiences? Let me know what you think! Watch the video of this interview on YouTube. Read the episode transcript. Follow the Beyond 6 Seconds podcast in your favorite podcast player. Subscribe to the FREE Beyond 6 Seconds newsletter for early access to new episodes. *Disclaimer: The views, guidance, opinions, and thoughts expressed in Beyond 6 Seconds episodes are solely mine and/or those of my guests, and do not necessarily represent those of my employer or other organizations. These episodes are for informational purposes only and do not substitute for professional medical advice. Consult a medical professional or healthcare provider if you are seeking medical advice, diagnoses, or treatment.*
From estranged families to massive fraud schemes, this episode dives into the shocking trends shaping the U.S. today.
From estranged families to massive fraud schemes, this episode dives into the shocking trends shaping the U.S. today.
Chimpanzees, we are told, are the closest relatives to human beings. Indeed, for years scientists claimed that there is only about a one percent difference separating the human genome from that of chimps. Some advocates even claimed that means humans are mostly chimps, or that chimps are mostly human, eroding the principle of human exceptionalism. But research published last year Read More ›
Scott Fawcett flips the script and interviews me—Paul Salter, The Golf Hypnotherapist—to pull back the curtain on what hypnosis actually is (and what it's not), how it compares to meditation, and why so many golfers struggle with their mental game and stay stuck even when they "know what to do." We dig into the real reason consistency collapses (hint: it's not laziness), what I mean by destructive mindset programs, and how fear of next-level success quietly drives self-sabotage. I also explain memory reconsolidation—why your past isn't "over" just because you've compartmentalized it—and how releasing old emotional charge can free up energy, focus, and execution when it matters most. In this episode, you'll learn: The real difference between hypnosis and the "pocket watch" caricature Why meditation helps—but why it often isn't enough for identity-level change How fear of success can be the hidden reason you stop doing what works What "memory reconsolidation" is and how it impacts performance Why the yips and performance anxiety often have roots outside golf The difference between surface-level tools vs subconscious rewiring Why stress is often an "energy leak" from unresolved internal conflict If you've tried sports psychology, visualization, breathwork, and self-talk… and still feel like there's something deeper running the show, this conversation will connect a lot of dots. Get your pencils ready and start listening. P.S. Curious to get a taste of high-performance hypnotherapy and the impact it can have on your life? Click here to apply to work with me and I'll be in touch to get this call scheduled Play to Your Potential On (and Off) the Course Schedule a Mindset Coaching Discovery Call Subscribe to the More Pars than Bogeys Newsletter Download my "Play Your Best Round" free hypnosis audio recording. High-Performance Hypnotherapy and Mindset Coaching Paul Salter - known as The Golf Hypnotherapist - is a High-Performance Hypnotherapist and Mindset Coach who leverages hypnosis and powerful subconscious reprogramming techniques to help golfers of all ages and skill levels overcome the mental hazards of their minds so they can shoot lower scores and play to their potential. He has over 16 years of coaching experience working with high performers in various industries, helping them get unstuck, out of their own way, and unlock their full potential. Click here to learn more about how high-performance hypnotherapy and mindset coaching can help you get out of your own way and play to your potential on (and off) the course. Instagram: @thepaulsalter Key Takeaways: Hypnosis isn't mind control—it's a natural brain state you already enter daily. The work is simply learning to access it intentionally for change. Meditation and hypnosis overlap in brainwaves, but hypnosis adds direction. It's not just relaxing—it's targeted problem-solving and identity work. Most inconsistency is subconscious protection, not lack of discipline. When success feels unfamiliar, the mind pulls you back toward "safe" and predictable. Self-sabotage is often sneaky and cumulative. It shows up as small broken promises (sleep, meditation, workouts), not just obvious destructive behaviors. Next-level performance requires detachment from outcome. "Need to / have to / should" language is a dead giveaway you're gripping the result. Memory reconsolidation changes your relationship with the past. You don't erase memories—you drain the emotional charge so they stop hijacking the present. Your golf game carries your whole life onto the course. Unresolved family dynamics, identity pressure, and old emotional pain can create mental interference that looks like "golf problems." Key Quotes: "Hypnosis…it's not magic. It's not brainwashing. It's a natural state of mind." "If you know what to do and you're not doing it…that's a mindset problem." "Most people are afraid of next level success or being the best version of themselves." "The sneaky lowercase-s self-sabotage…is breaking the little promises you keep to yourself." "You can control your process…but not the outcome." "Memory reconsolidation is like opening a Word document and doing some editing." "You bring your whole self to the golf course…most of the stressors are completely unrelated to golf." Time Stamps: 00:00: Introduction to Podcasting and Guest Introduction 03:02: Paul Salter's Journey to Coaching and Hypnotherapy 05:52: The Role of Mindset in Performance 08:48: Hypnosis vs. Meditation: Understanding the Differences 11:45: The Flow State and Its Importance in Performance 14:34: Overcoming Self-Sabotage and Destructive Mindset Programs 17:21: Beliefs and Their Impact on Success 20:40: Memory Reconciliation and Letting Go of the Past 25:46: Understanding Memory Reconsolidation 27:33: The Impact of Traumatic Moments on Performance 29:39: Healthy Detachment and Mental Interference 31:08: The Importance of Process Over Outcome 33:07: The Role of Self-Reflection in Performance 35:03: Quality Over Quantity in Practice 37:03: Advice for Younger Self: Slow Down and Have Fun 38:56: The Value of Memories Over Material Wealth 41:28: Balancing Hard Work with Rest 43:37: The Unique Approach of Hypnosis in Performance Coaching
In this world, you're not going to be liked for one reason or another. In fact, you might even be hated. We talk sometimes about what we'd like to be remembered for—or about what we'd like to be known or admired for. But what would you like to be hated for? Someday, maybe even today, someone is going to see you or hear you and get angry and "gnash their teeth," as the Psalmist says. Join Pastor Chris as he looks at three Scripture passages to discover ways we can faithfully live in a contentious world divided by tribal factions.
In the final hour, Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes were joined by Score football analyst Anthony Herron to preview the Patriots-Seahawks matchup in Super Bowl 60 on Sunday. After that, Spiegel and Holmes listened and reacted to new sound from a few Bears players at the NFL Honors ceremony Thursday evening.
David Giroux, CIO of T. Rowe Price and manager of the Capital Appreciation strategy, joins Excess Returns for a wide ranging discussion on market valuation, AI investing, Mag 6 dynamics, utilities, healthcare, fixed income, and how to think independently in volatile markets. David shares his framework for exploiting structural market inefficiencies, why market drawdowns can create opportunity, how he evaluates the S&P 500 at the micro level, and what investors are getting wrong about AI, profit margins, and the current cycle.Main topics covered in this episode• Exploiting structural market inefficiencies in GARP stocks, high yield, and double B credit• Why market drawdowns often lower forward risk and increase expected returns• Strategic equity allocation during periods of fear and volatility• Rethinking S&P 500 valuation through 500 company bottom up analysis• The changing composition of the index and its impact on profit margins• Where the most overvalued and undervalued areas of the market may be today• AI investing framework including Nvidia, AMD, cloud providers, and software risk• How AI could reshape margins, labor productivity, and enterprise software• Differences between today and the dotcom bubble• Overweight positioning in utilities and healthcare and the thesis behind each• Fixed income positioning including the belly of the Treasury curve and fiscal risk• Commodities, gold, and fiscal sustainability• Lessons for portfolio managers on independent thinking and making high conviction betsTimestamps00:00 Market drawdowns and forward returns02:09 Exploiting structural market inefficiencies06:28 Strategic equity allocation during selloffs11:22 Is the market expensive and how to value the S&P 50015:00 Profit margins and index composition17:13 Where valuation excess exists outside the Mag 620:38 How to think about AI and enterprise adoption27:18 AI disruption risk across sectors39:20 AI versus the dotcom bubble42:30 Apple versus Meta and capital allocation46:53 Overweight utilities and healthcare52:57 Fixed income opportunities and risks57:32 Commodities, gold, and fiscal concerns01:00:15 Lessons for new portfolio managers
A complete honor, and such a fun experience. We sat down live with Mr. Ward in the Omni Hotel in downtown Fort Worth. First time ever to do this live and it couldn't have been a better experience. Class by class, breed by breed, we talk about it all. It sure was fun to go through all the cattle with Mr. Ward. Maybe some others beat us to doing a “preview” but we promise this much higher quality and professional in all aspects. You'll want to hear this and you won't be missing out. Empowerment is here.
Score Football analyst Anthony Herron joined the show to discuss the battle of defensive minded coaches in Sunday's Super Bowl.
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C & D love each other deeply, but they have very different ways of engaging their spiritual lives. C is way more woo than D, and C would love them to get on the same page. How can they grow their shared spirituality and improve their relationship in the process? This couple's reading explores trust, values, and navigating difference. Watch the video version of Ghost of a Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/jessicalanyadoo/videos! You can still get the Astrology of 2026 here: https://www.lovelanyadoo.com/shop/the-astrology-of-2026-how-to-work-with-the-biggest-shifts-of-the-year
Zach sits down with Casey and Meygan Caston, founders of Marriage365, to talk about how a marriage that nearly collapsed in year three became the foundation for a global relationship resource. Both Casey and Meygan grew up surrounded by divorce, affairs, and unresolved conflict. Determined not to repeat their parents' patterns, they entered marriage with optimism—but no tools. By year three, resentment, blame, and emotional shutdown had taken over, and Meygan found herself convinced she had made the biggest mistake of her life. What changed everything wasn't mutual effort at first—it was personal responsibility. After starting therapy alone, Meygan learned boundaries, emotional regulation, and how to take ownership of her part of the dance. Thirteen months later, her changed posture toward conflict forced a shift in the relationship dynamic, and Casey began doing his own work. Together, they share how changing one partner changes the entire system; why marriage is not about solo dancing; and how resentment—not communication—is usually the real problem couples face. Zach weaves in his own frameworks around adulthood, repair, and the “dance” of relationship, while Casey and Meygan offer practical insight from years of coaching couples in crisis. The conversation also explores forgiveness, curiosity, intentional choice, cultural myths about love, and why healthy marriages are built through habits—not hope. Key Takeaways You're not stuck – Changing yourself changes the relationship system. Marriage is a team sport – Two people dancing separately isn't partnership. Resentment breaks communication – Most “communication problems” are really unresolved hurt. Repair requires ownership – A real apology validates pain and invites rebuilding trust. Acceptance matters – Forgiveness doesn't have to be instant, but honesty does. Curiosity beats defensiveness – Looking inward is the first step toward growth. Feelings fluctuate; choices endure – Love is sustained through intentional action. Differences aren't the enemy – Harmony comes from resolving dissonance, not eliminating it. Guest Info Casey & Meygan Caston Casey and Meygan are the founders of Marriage365, a relationship coaching platform dedicated to helping couples build intentional, resilient marriages. Drawing from their own near-divorce story and years of coaching experience, they offer practical tools, habits, and frameworks for repair, communication, and connection. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marriage365/ New Book The Marriage Habit — releasing February 3, 2026A practical, habit-based framework for couples who want clarity on how to build a strong marriage—not just why it matters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Scaling a short-term rental portfolio sounds exciting — until the cracks start to show. In this episode, Tim breaks down the real differences between managing 1–5 properties versus scaling to 10–20 units. From systems and staffing to pricing and mindset, you'll learn why growth magnifies everything — and what to fix before it costs you time, money, and sanity. Key Takeaways Why portfolios hit major breaking points between 10–20 units — and how to prepare for them The systems, SOPs, and technology you must have before scaling How delegation (and lack of it) directly impacts reviews and revenue The hidden revenue losses most hosts don't see until it's too late Why mindset shifts are just as important as tools when growing your STR business Scaling doesn't fail because of bad intentions — it fails because of missing systems. This episode gives you a real-world look at what changes as your portfolio grows and how to stay profitable without burning out. If growth is your goal, this is a must-listen. Check out our videos on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ShortTermRentalRiches Grab your free management eBook: https://strriches.com/#tools-resources Looking to earn more with your property (without the headaches)? Chat with our expert management team: https://strriches.com/management-services/
I'm always so excited when this episode comes around. Either through voice memo, email, or Instagram, you guys share the challenges of your everyday lives, and we try and Lazy Genius them together, finding compassionate solutions that match the season of life. Helpful Companion Links Order my book The PLAN or ask your library to consider carrying a copy. In the month of February, 10% of our revenue from Playbook sales will go to World Central Kitchen! The Instagram post where we collected today's Office Hours questions. Episode #235: When You Disagree on What Matters Episode #325: Dealing with Differences on How Something Is Done Episode #337: How to Lazy Genius Division of Labor Episode #298: How to Keep Up with Household Habits Episode Three of The Lazy Genius Kitchen video series (making regular dinners on a regular basis) Watch the whole series here Episode #333: 7 Ways to Always Know What to Wear Joyful Anyway by Kate Bowler (out April 7) House Rules by Myquillyn Smith (aka The Nester) Episode #332: How to Enjoy Your Evening Hours The Next Right Thing podcast by Emily P. Freeman Sign up for our every-other-week podcast recap email called Latest Lazy Listens. Sign up for my once-a-month newsletter, The Latest Lazy Letter. Grab a copy of my book The Lazy Genius Kitchen or The Lazy Genius Way! (Affiliate links) Download a transcript of this episode. Want to share your Lazy Genius of the Week idea with us? Use this form to tell us about it or record your idea and share your voice on the show. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Guest: Danielle Clode. They discuss rising risks from climate change, dangers at the urban-bushland interface, and differences between U.S. fire suppression and Australian preventative burning policies.1885 SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2889: Janet Anthony unpacks three common misconceptions that introverts often face: being mislabeled as shy, seen as antisocial, or assumed to dislike talking. Her reflections challenge stereotypes and invite extroverts to better understand the nuanced inner world of introversion, where solitude, depth, and meaningful conversations thrive. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://introvertdear.com/news/introvert-people-often-misunderstand/ Quotes to ponder: "Shyness is the fear of negative judgment, and introversion is a preference for quiet, minimally stimulating environments." "I do more listening than talking, which is one characteristic you'll find in most (if not all) introverts." "We introverts may shock others with our quality content and amazing presentations." Episode references: Quiet by Susan Cain: https://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Power-Introverts-World-Talking/dp/0307352153
In the world of Cluster B personality disorders, NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) are often called "cousins" because they can look identical on the surface, especially during a blowout argument.Is it Narcissism (NPD) or Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)? Self-aware narcissist Lee Hammock breaks down the core differences in 2026. Learn why one is driven by ego/admiration and the other by a desperate fear of abandonment.Connect with Lee:My Courses: https://courses.mentalhealness.net 1-on-1 Coaching Calls: https://link.me/mentalhealnessAll My Link: https://beacons.page/mentalhealness Follow on Instagram/TikTok: @mentalhealnesssIf this episode helped you gain clarity, please leave a 5-star review on Spotify! It helps others find the validation they need to heal.
Autographed cards are one of the most popular parts of the hobby, but not all autographs are created equal. In this episode, we break down the real differences between sticker autographs and on card autographs, including how each type is signed, why manufacturers use them, and how collectors view them.We discuss which autograph style is preferred, how design and placement can impact appeal, and whether sticker autographs truly hurt value or simply serve a different purpose in the hobby. Whether you are new to collecting or a long time collector, this episode helps you understand what you are really getting when you pull an autographed card.If you have ever wondered why collectors debate sticker autos versus on card signatures, this episode explains it all.https://powerssportsmemorabilia.com/
Conversations about the differences between girls and boys—and between women and men—often make people uneasy. Some fear that acknowledging differences will reinforce stereotypes or limit opportunities. Yet ignoring those differences may do exactly the same thing. The current cultural trend toward “gender neutrality” or “gender blindness” is often rooted in good intentions. But research increasingly suggests that erasing gender may unintentionally strengthen the very stereotypes we hope todismantle. This is the first episode in a 5-part series to help us understand some of these differences. This episode focuses on the differences between boys and girls on "sight." I hope you find this interesting!
Tripp Limehouse discusses the key differences in mindset and strategies that wealthy individuals employ to secure their financial futures. He emphasizes the importance of starting early and being consistent in investing, utilizing tax-deferred accounts, and the necessity of having a solid estate plan. The conversation also includes listener questions, providing practical advice on retirement planning and financial management. Visit Limehouse Financial to learn more. Call 800-940-6979See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mehmet "Mo" Casey joins Oly, Ron and MoHugs as they discuss Bullying, Gratefulness, Get to know you Questions, and Differences and Commonalities.
In this informative episode, Bryan and Bert dive deep into gas appliance safety and combustion analysis from the unique perspective of Florida HVAC technicians. While they humorously acknowledge that Florida's mild winters mean they don't work on gas furnaces daily, they make a compelling case that this actually makes their training even more critical. When technicians only encounter gas appliances occasionally, the stakes are higher—which is why they've developed rigorous protocols to ensure safety every single time. The conversation covers everything from the basics of gas leak detection to the nuances of carbon monoxide monitoring, combustion air zones, and proper venting. Bryan and Bert share real-world stories of dangerous situations they've encountered, from exploding pool heaters to improperly capped gas lines at vacation rentals. Their approach emphasizes that every gas leak is your problem when you're on site, regardless of why you were originally called out. This episode is packed with practical wisdom for both seasoned professionals working in gas-heavy markets and those who encounter these systems less frequently. Throughout the discussion, the hosts stress fundamental safety principles that apply across all markets: using your nose to detect leaks, understanding the difference between unspent gas and carbon monoxide, ensuring proper combustion air zones, and never ignoring warning signs like delayed ignition or flame rollout. They also tackle common misconceptions about equipment like flexible gas connectors, orphaned water heaters, and the real risks of cracked heat exchangers. The conversation wraps up with important reminders about company lockout/tagout procedures, the critical importance of low-level carbon monoxide detectors, and the tools every technician should carry. Bryan and Bert's candid, no-nonsense approach makes complex safety topics accessible while never losing sight of how serious the consequences can be when gas work goes wrong. Topics Covered Gas leak detection and response protocols - Why every gas leak on site becomes your responsibility, using your nose as the first line of defense, and never leaving a leak for someone else to fix Carbon monoxide safety and monitoring - Understanding CO as a combustion byproduct, the limitations of standard UL-rated detectors, and the critical importance of low-level CO monitors Combustion air zones and depressurization - Identifying risks from sealed spaces, return air leaks, exhaust fans, and other equipment that can create dangerous negative pressure Delayed ignition and flame rollout - Recognizing warning signs, understanding causes, and why you should never ignore scorched wires or tripped rollout switches Proper gas line assembly and materials - Selecting appropriate materials for different environments, avoiding flexible connector failures, and ensuring proper sizing Combustion analysis fundamentals - Measuring CO levels in the flue, targeting air-free CO under 100 ppm, and understanding when adjustments are needed Natural draft vs. induced draft systems - Differences in safety considerations, orphaned water heaters, and the myth of oversized flue pipes Venting requirements and back drafting - Identifying improper venting, looking for evidence of back draft on water heaters, and ensuring proper flue design Gas pressure testing and adjustment - When to adjust and when not to, reading data tags, and understanding that most flame problems are air-related, not gas pressure Cracked heat exchangers in context - Why they're less common in warm climates, the role of proper airflow, and focusing on actual safety risks vs. edge cases Tools and equipment recommendations - Combustion analyzers, personal protective CO detectors, combustible gas detectors, precision manometers, and low-level CO alarms Lockout/tagout procedures - Following company protocols, communicating clearly with customers, and balancing safety requirements with homeowner autonomy Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 7th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.
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Ph.D. in psychologist Dr. John Gray, most well-known for his book Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus joins Trending with Timmerie Episode Guide Top-five differences between men and women (0:42) How can men and women communicate better based on their differences? (25:51) St. Thomas Aquinas’ advice on what content to consume to make you happy (42:48) Resources mentioned: Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus For Women Only: Be Happy With or Without a Man: https://www.amazon.com/Men-are-Mars-Women-Venus-ebook/dp/B0GHBTHW95 Website for Dr. John Gray: https://www.marsvenus.com/
Getting stuck writing programmes on a Sunday night, with creative energy at zero, is an all too common occurrence for coaches and is probably where a lot of copy and pasted programming comes from. Writing programmes needs some creative input, but having systems in place to make it easier, and understanding the many small tasks involved in programming and stacking them together, can be really helpful. In this episode we talk about our ways of managing dips in creativity, where we get inspiration from, and how we batch certain tasks and programmes together. Check it out if you want to learn a few helpful tricks and tips, and a bit of a system behind how you're writing your programmes out. If you're not already subscribed to our newsletter, head over to www.legionsc.com to get a weekly selection of training tips and our favorite articles. We run online workshops for coaches as well. Find out when our next workshop is here: https://legionsc.com/program-design-workshops These podcasts are posted in video format on YouTube as well. Show Notes: [2:30] When programming requires more creativity [4:00] Batching similar programmes together [6:30] Differences with programming for less and more experienced athletes [7:40] Getting past a creative block with writing metcons [11:00] Making yourself be more decisive [15:00] Using templates to create constraints on the programme [17:45] Getting inspiration from CrossFit and CrossFit Linchpin [20:20] A framework for creating the programme [25:00] Looking at progressions on old programming blogs
Is an MBA interview like a job interview — or something completely different? Can you (and should you) script your answers? Does a tough interview mean bad news? What a great MBA interview feels like The real traits AdComs are evaluating Differences between AdCom-led and alumni interviews Practical prep advice and post-interview etiquette Tips to stay calm, confident, and authentic
Take the next step in your veterinary dentistry journey — discover how you can join Dr. Beckman's elite training community! https://ivdi.org/inv ----------------------------------------------------------------- Host: Dr. Brett Beckman, DVM, FAVD, DAVDC, DAAPM In this episode of The Vet Dental Show, Dr. Brett Beckman provides a practical, real-world breakdown of bone grafting in veterinary periodontal therapy. He explains what commonly used bone graft materials are made of, why biosynthetic grafts are safe and cost-effective, and how granular versus putty formulations affect handling and radiographic visibility. Dr. Beckman also discusses how to evaluate periodontal defects, when bone grafting is an appropriate alternative to extraction, and how follow-up radiographs are handled after graft placement. This episode offers clear guidance on case selection, client communication, and pricing strategies — helping veterinarians preserve teeth when possible while setting realistic expectations for outcomes. ----------------------------------------------------------------- What You'll Learn: ✅ What veterinary bone graft material is made of ✅ Why biosynthetic grafts are safe and rarely cause reactions ✅ Differences between granular and putty bone graft formulations ✅ Why granular grafts are easier to evaluate radiographically ✅ Which periodontal defects are appropriate for bone grafting ✅ When extraction may be the better option ✅ How and when to take follow-up dental radiographs ✅ How often full-mouth radiographs are truly needed ✅ How to structure bone graft pricing in clinical practice Key Takeaways: ✅ Bone grafting is best suited for advanced vertical periodontal defects ✅ Granular grafts improve confirmation of defect fill on X-rays ✅ Not all bone loss should be treated with grafting ✅ Follow-up radiographs can be targeted, not full-mouth ✅ Clear charting supports efficient future evaluations ✅ Transparent line-item pricing builds client trust ✅ Bone grafting can preserve teeth that would otherwise be extracted Questions This Episode Answers: ❓ What is veterinary bone graft material made of? ❓ Are allergic reactions to bone grafts common? ❓ When should bone grafting be considered instead of extraction? ❓ How do you decide which defects are treatable? ❓ Should granular or putty graft material be used? ❓ When should post-bone graft radiographs be taken? ❓ Do bone graft cases require full-mouth X-rays at recheck? ❓ How often should aggressive periodontal patients be re-evaluated? ❓ How do you explain bone grafting value to pet owners? ❓ How should bone graft procedures be priced in practice? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Transform your dental practice today — request your invite to the Veterinary Dental Practitioner Program: https://ivdi.org/inv Explore Dr. Beckman's complete library of veterinary dentistry courses and CE resources! https://veterinarydentistry.net/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Questions? Leave a comment below with your thoughts, experiences, or cases related to veterinary periodontal disease and bone grafting! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Veterinary Dentistry, IVDI, Brett Beckman, Veterinary Periodontology, Bone Grafting, Periodontal Disease, Vet Dental Show, Veterinary Surgery, Dog Dental Care, Cat Dental Care, Veterinary Education, Veterinary CE, Tooth Preservation, Periodontal Therapy
In this hour, Adam Crowley and Dorin Dickerson spot some immediate differences they've noticed between former Steelers' head coach Mike Tomlin and current Steelers' head coach Mike McCarthy. Also, Ray Fittipaldo from The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette comes on The Fan Hotline. And how was coach Bill Belichick not voted into the NFL Hall-Of-Fame this year? January 28, 2026, 8:00 Hour
You've probably heard that chimps and humans share 98% of their DNA. Now, this kind of DNA comparison is complicated.
Special Patreon Release: Better Together with Jon and Jolene Rocke "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." Mark 10:9 (KJV) *Transcription Below* Questions and Topics We Discuss: What are you so thankful you did in every season of marriage, from newlyweds to empty nesters that you see the pay off now in the present? How has grace and forgiveness benefited your relationship? What advice do you have for all of us married couples as we seek to grow as one, rather than grow parallel or even grow apart from one another? Jon and Jolene Rocke are my local friends and my guests for today. They work side by side at Peoria Rescue ministries, and they have so many lovely gifts of leadership and hospitality and teaching, but the topic we are going to focus on today is marriage. From the first time we met, Mark and I adored them and appreciated their sweet bond with one another, and I'm so thrilled to introduce you to them today. Here's our chat: Jon and Jolene both grew up in Christian homes and accepted Jesus as their Savior and Lord at the age of 15. Jon is from Morton and Jolene from Elgin, IL. They met on a bus ride to a Youth Gathering in Minnesota. They sat together and talked the whole way home about life, the Bible and God. Jon played his guitar and sang John Denver songs and their match was made with “Sunshine on my Shoulders”. They married at the age of 18 and had their first child, Janelle, at 19. They left for Grace college in Winona Lake, Indiana with an 18 month old toddler in tow and had another baby girl born while in college named Jaime. At graduation in 1984, they were accepted to Trinity Seminary to follow Jon's desire to be a Professor of Theology, but became pregnant with their son, Jordan, which changed every plan and sent them back home to build up their finances. They came back to Morton and worked in the Family Business and felt called to stay. They raised their 3 children in Morton working in the business until God loosened their tent pegs and called them to Peoria Rescue Ministries in 2017. Jon is the Executive Director and Jolene is the Ministry Ambassador. They are thankful to be working side-by-side in this new season of their marriage. Jon and Jolene will celebrate their 44th wedding anniversary and have 3 married children and have 10 grandchildren. Their son Jordan and his wife Jessica live in Sandpoint, Idaho with their 3 Kids. Their daughter Janelle and husband Ryan live in Kennesaw, Georgia with their 3 children. And their daughter Jaime and her husband Jonathan live here in Morton with their 4 children. Related Episodes from The Savvy Sauce: 5 Love Languages with Dr. Gary Chapman Traveling with Your Family with Katie Mueller At The Savvy Sauce, we will only recommend resources we believe in! We also want you to be aware: We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Five Love Languages The 5 Love Languages of Teenagers A Teen's Guide to the 5 Love Languages Thank You to Our Sponsors: Chick-fil-A East Peoria and The Savvy Sauce Charities (and donate online here) Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook, Instagram or Our Website. Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” *Transcription* Music: (0:00 – 0:09) Laura Dugger: (0:10 - 2:05) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. I want to say a huge thank you to today's sponsors for this episode, Chick-fil-A East Peoria and Savvy Sauce Charities. Are you interested in a free college education for you or someone you know? Stay tuned for details coming later in this episode from today's sponsor, Chick-fil-A East Peoria. You can also visit their website today at https://www.chick-fil-a.com/locations/il/east-peoria. If you've been with us long, you know this podcast is only one piece of our nonprofit, which is the Savvy Sauce Charities. Don't miss out on our other resources. We have questions and content to inspire you to have your own practical chats for intentional living. And I also hope you don't miss out on the opportunity to financially support us through your tax-deductible donations. All this information can be found on our recently updated website, thesavvysauce.com. Jon and Jolene Rocke are my local friends and my guests for today. They work side by side at Peoria Rescue Ministries, and they have so many lovely gifts of leadership and hospitality and teaching. But the topic we're going to focus on today is marriage. From the first time we met, Mark and I adored them so much and really appreciated their sweet bond with one another. And I'm so thrilled to get to introduce you to them today. Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Jon and Jolene. Jon Rocke: (2:05 - 2:06) We're so happy to be here, Laura. Thanks so much for having us. Laura Dugger: (2:07 - 2:43) Well, it's truly my pleasure. And will the two of you just start by giving us a little background on how you came to know Christ as your personal Lord and Savior? Jolene Rocke: (2:07 - 2:43) Yeah, I grew up in the Chicago area in a suburb and in a Christian home. So, I was very thankful to know about God. And I came to know Him as my personal Savior at 15. And so, then I really had a complete change. And from then on, I have just followed Him as close as I can. So very thankful for Jesus. Jon Rocke: (2:44 - 2:59) Yeah, and I was actually 15 as well. Became overwhelmed with my sin at 15 and knew that I did not know Christ. And so, since then, a very imperfect following, but glad to be part of the family. Laura Dugger: (3:00 - 3:15) Well, and that's awesome that both of you were 15 and never knew that piece of your story. But I'm assuming you were living in different places. So then how did the two of you meet and fall in love? Jolene Rocke: (3:15 - 4:40) That is such a funny story. Because I, along with a friend of mine from Elgin, jumped on a Morton bus going to Morris, Minnesota. And they picked us up in Rockford. And we got on the bus, went to the same youth gathering for our church denomination. And on the way home from that weekend, we sat on the bus the whole way home and talked. And Jon had what was so interesting to me, a study Bible. And I had never seen a study Bible in my life. And so, he showed me what an open Bible was with notes at the bottom. And because I came to Christ at 15 and started Bible study on my own with just a spiral notebook, a pen, and my Bible, I was fascinated by this Bible. And I heard from Morton girls that he carried his Bible everywhere. So, he was kind of different than the rest of the guys. And I told them that's the kind of guy I was looking for. And then to top it all off, he had a guitar. And he sang John Denver songs to me. So, Sunshine on My Shoulders, I think, really made me happy. Laura Dugger: (4:40 - 4:45) Just knowing your family music is such a big part of worship. Yeah. That's part of what wooed you, too. Jon Rocke: (4:40 - 5:35) Yeah. Part of the crazy story is that it's a long trip. It's like a 12-hour trip. And so, we left Morton at like 5 in the morning. And so, I'm sleeping on the floor. And we picked these girls up. And I wake up, and I'm like, “Oh, an angel just got on the bus.” That's what I thought. And she was like, she didn't really have anything to do with me the whole weekend till the way home. But we have a lot of fun with that story. And so that was the beginning. I think I sent flowers the next day. And we began, actually, a very long-distance, over-the-phone relationship, getting to know each other. And we actually went through, I think, the Book of Romans together over the course of, I guess, a year. And then got married. And we were pretty young. Jolene Rocke: (5:36 - 6:47) Yeah. We met when Jon was just 16. And then two weeks after his 18th birthday, we got married. And I'm a year older. So, it was very young. But we are so thankful because we're going to celebrate 44 years of marriage here. So, God knit us together, I think, through the fact that we were both really pursuing the Lord individually. And then we were so happy to find somebody like that. I thought I was headed to be a missionary in Africa at the time I met him. And he was, like, searching, too. But both all out pursuit of Christ. And so, I think that's what knit our hearts together. And it didn't hurt that he sent flowers the next day. Laura Dugger: (6:47 - 7:15) It was a wise move. But I love it because the two of you have really grown up together. Totally. You've been meeting as teens. When you reflect back, what are you so thankful that you did in every season of marriage, from newlyweds to now empty nesters, that you're getting to see the payoff now in the present? Jon Rocke: (6:49 - 8:10) Yeah, I think sometimes you are intentional. And we've tried to be intentional. But I think sometimes God brings circumstances into your life that sort of force something. So not only were we young when we got married, but nine months after we got married, yeah, we had Janelle, our oldest daughter. And so, we had to realize we still needed time together. And we had a little baby. It began, I think, an intentional course for us to carve out time. So, you know, we put our kids to bed early. It was a big deal for us as parents that we had our time after they went to bed because we didn't get a whole lot of time. And other little silly things, the kids didn't get to sit in between us at church. That was the rule. You can sit on either side of mom and dad, but you can't sit in between us. And so that was just, you know, again, a little thing that we did. And some things we had to learn. I'm more of a night person. Jolene's more of a morning person. Part of that, we had to learn at one point, you know, let's make sure we prioritize going to bed together. Just so, again, we had that time. So, there's been all sorts of different steps along the way that we've tried to prioritize each other. Jolene Rocke: (8:10 - 9:01) So the two words that come to my mind with regard to that are compromise. You're two different people, and you're suddenly thrust together into a home situation. Well, that took compromise on both of our parts. So that's kind of sacrifice, too. That means he doesn't get to stay up until midnight if we want to go to bed together, and I'm going to have to push myself to stay up later just so that we can make a common bedtime. So, compromise, and then I think the other major thing to me would be communication, because we didn't have a relationship before marriage where we were in the same town and could see each other all the time or go on dates. We didn't have that. So, we had letter writing. This is 43 years ago. So, we had letter writing daily. Jon Rocke: (9:02 - 9:04) Some of us were daily. He was daily. Jolene Rocke: (9:05 - 9:11) I wasn't quite as good at letter writing every day, but I was in college by now. Jon Rocke: (9:11 - 9:13) You were still in high school. Now we know. Jolene Rocke: (9:14 - 10:15) But I think the communication factor, that actually helped us because, yes, I realize face-to-face dating is a great thing, but to not be able to do that and have nothing but be able to write your day out, what happened during your day, you're learning to tell the other person what happened in your day, how you felt about that, what your dreams, your goals are. So, it started, to me and us, I think a great foundation of communication. Laura Dugger: (10:15 - 10:30) And is it Song of Songs, I believe, 5:16, where part of it says, “This is my lover, this is my friend,” and that's what I'm hearing, is that you were really deepening your friendship in those early years and that from witnessing your lives, it seems that has only continued. Jolene Rocke: (10:30 - 10:35) Yeah, exactly. We are so thankful. It's a very different story than most people, but we're so thankful. Jon Rocke: (10:16 - 10:39) I think also, for us, it was Genesis 2 in the sense that you need to leave everything else and cleave together. We were young. It's hard to believe. When we look back, we think about our kids and our grandkids and would we want that for them, and yet I don't think we'd trade it for the world. Laura Dugger: (10:40 - 10:52) I love that. And what encouragement do you have for others then who are also wanting to build a foundation of remaining connected and intimate in all the aspects of their own marriage? Jon Rocke: (10:53 - 12:07) That's one of those things about being intentional. Matthew 19:6, where Christ repeats that adage from Genesis 2, that God created them male and female, they need to leave mother and father and cleave together, but then he adds this, “and no one should tear that apart.” And we often think about that, I think, as other people tearing that apart, and that's true. But the same goes, we can tear ourselves apart if we're not going to make sure everything else, all other distractions, because they're going to continually come, right? And again, we had kids so early that I think we knew we had to carve that time out, because if we wouldn't have, I'm not sure how that would have worked. We would have been so consumed early. But career, we've just known that we've had to say, if we don't make sure that we're the priority, it's so easy to get lost in all the other things of life that are not bad. Kids are not bad, they're great. And your careers and your work, that's all good. But it can be the enemy of great in a marriage. Jolene Rocke: (12:07 - 12:32) Yeah, we talked about the fact that this is how we started all those years ago. But a pursuit of God individually actually enhances a pursuit of God together. I'm still in the Word individually. Jon's still in the Word individually. But we also then read and pray together every night. So just this pursuit of God. Jon Rocke: (12:32 - 13:06) But that wasn't something we did from day one either. I mean, that was a learned scenario where one time we were just kind of convicted of the fact that together we're not taking time to pray and read together. And so, then we just made that part of routine at night. So then again, that made us say we're going to go to bed together. Because if we didn't, then we didn't have that time. That opportunity to pray together and read together has just become a connection point that we wouldn't want to trade. Laura Dugger: (13:07 - 13:55) I think that's encouraging in so many ways because you've grown into this. And I think for anyone just starting out, it's so helpful to see you didn't let excuses get in the way. It reminds me of a supervisor in college who said, “If you want something done, give it to a busy person.” And I think in a unique way with you two being launched into parenthood nine months after you were married, you didn't have the luxury of being frivolous with your time. And you chose intentionality. And it seems like God really has blessed that and honored it. Jolene Rocke: (13:55 - 14:05) Yeah and continued it to this day. You're very right. We continue to be busy. And that's still the struggle to combat that with intentional time together. So definitely. Jon Rocke: (13:55 - 14:31) You talk about seasons in our lives. So, I had to have a hip replacement. So, from like 23 till I had that at 50, I couldn't take long walks. But now we get to walk together, which is a huge privilege. And so, I always think about it. I'm not into exercise to exercise, but I'm into being together. And exercise is a thing we can do together. The other thing we did in our, I guess it was on our 25th. We got a tandem bike. And we love doing our tandem bike. Jolene Rocke: (14:31 - 16:21) But he wanted a tandem bike right when we got married. And I kept saying, no, I didn't really want to sit on the back and have no control. And not be able to see when I thought I should break or when I wanted to turn. So, this is something that I often encourage women that are moving into the emptiness season of life. I was driving to church alone. And the Lord really impressed on me that the extreme lavish amount of love that as a homemaker I gave to my children who were now gone, I needed to transfer that to my husband. I've always loved Jon first and best. But I needed to take even the time commitment. What could I do to show Jon I loved him lavishly the way I tried to my children? So that was a time thing for me. And it was like get a tandem bike. So, I was willing then to get the tandem and sit in the back. And you really do; you're called the stoker. You really do work in the back. You don't just sit there. You work. But I no longer had the control of that. And I am learning to see butterflies land on corn stalks. And I actually love our tandem bike. But God had to grow me. And that was part of my several gifts to him in emptiness period that has helped us keep a strong marriage, I think. Laura Dugger: (16:21 - 16:30) And isn't that interesting how there's a gift in it for you? Like you offer this sacrifice and yet he's teaching you new things. Jon Rocke: (16:21 - 16:22) I love it, yeah. Laura Dugger: (16:23 - 16:45) What would you two say is the biggest personality difference that you've recognized in your own marriage? Jolene Rocke: (16:45 - 17:22) We just had a personality test yesterday. We have an executive team leadership at Peoria Rescue Ministries, and we had to do personality tests again. And that always is quite glaring to see how different we are. So, we're on two ends of the spectrum. But we can encourage any marriage that that can work and actually maybe be in your favor as long as you work hard at it. So, it just takes work and communication to say, you're very logical thinking, I'm very emotional, so how do we come together then in situations where I'm flustered and he's calm because he at times looks as if you don't care. Jon Rocke: (17:22 - 17:53) Right, yeah, it can be that. You're highly relational. I'm definitely more process. And I think you're going to learn quickly, especially if you have kids, that all your kids are going to have different personalities. That's the weirdest thing, right? They all grew up in the same home and they're all just completely different. And so being able to help them understand kind of a little bit who they are and how that works has been a good thing that we're not the same. Jolene Rocke: (17:53 - 20:01) God didn't make one good and one bad. He made all of us different, all in His image, to His glory. We all bring value to the family, and we both bring value to one another as helpmates because I'm able to sharpen Jon in areas that are blind spots for him. He's able to totally sharpen me and calm me in blind spots that are mine. So, I think in a marriage, it's just actually, it's been helpful. Differences are good. Laura Dugger: (20:01 - 20:25) Oh, I love that. Differences are good. It sounds like God sanctified even your views of that. And so, getting really practical, when was a time when your differences were working against each other or caused conflict? And then how, through maturing and more time together, how do you celebrate and even lean into and appreciate those differences? Jolene Rocke: (20:25 - 21:00) Well, one thing for sure is we had what we call our valley, where we learned that Psalm 23 wasn't just a funeral psalm, but it's a life psalm, and it's a way of life psalm. So, at that time, I had three family members pass away, and Jon had his family business go down. So, we watched our personalities within that in handling loss and grief. So, here's the optimist really down, and here's realist trying to be cheerleader and be up. And so actually God did it, and we know without a doubt that God can work beyond personalities and bring you to a point where you can actually support one another well. But there again, it's got to be intentional. It's got to be me saying, we need to sit down now and have a meeting, talk about how you're feeling, whether you want to talk about feelings or not, because I need to know where you're at so that I can help you best. Jon Rocke: (20:01 - 21:20) Yeah, and on a practical level during that time, I found myself not communicating some of what I thought was either scary or just the long drag of it. And so that was a potential way for us to disconnect because all of this is swirling from at least our livelihood standpoint, swirling in my head, and I'm not going to want to share that. And yet we realized we had to, but then those are not always easy things because Jolene, like most ladies, likes security as an important thing, right? Of just knowing what's going to happen. In the end, it did make us really, again, Joe mentioned Psalm 23, and if he is our shepherd, what else could we want? We both had to end up clinging to that because our security was gone. Part of our sense of who we were, and particularly me in a family business for three generations, was gone. And so, we certainly had to make sure that our tendencies, like in communication, those kinds of things, we had to work through those during that time. Laura Dugger: (21:21 - 21:30) Thank you for sharing that. I think that's very relatable to hear about the ups and the downs. And so, do you have any specific stories of a time when you were both in your strengths, and even though they were very different, they worked well together? Jolene Rocke: (21:30 - 23:12) Yeah, I think that it's the learning what your strengths are that you may not know that God gives you at the time, and that's his grace. So, at the time, for all those years previous to the valley, Jon was the one that pushed me to communicate, and shutting down was not an option, which is what I wanted to do. So, I'd rather just not talk about it and go to bed. And he would push, push, push me to keep communicating, and that we would work through everything before the sun went down, as the Bible says. Well, in the valley, it was Jon that was shutting down. And suddenly, you know, I had to be the one to push communication. So, this is something I heard on a sermon. A personality is not an excuse for sin. So that just means that I can't say, well, I'm not comfortable in conflict, so I'm not going to communicate and I'm going to shut down. No, you need to push yourself, ask the Lord for help, and go as his helpmate and say, you have to talk about it, you have to tell me, how are you doing? How are you feeling? So, I feel like it's just, it was such a beautiful valley when we look back now. Laura Dugger: (23:12 - 23:25) Another previous guest had said she noticed when she was in the valley, that's when you're closest to the living water. Jon Rocke: (23:13 - 24:41) Oh, absolutely. For sure. That's how creeks run, through valleys. Yeah. And I think our parenting, it was helpful for us to have both sides of our personality in parenting because I think we could address situations with our kids from different viewpoints and different ways to think about things, and those were helpful things as well. But we also, during all sorts of the periods of time in our marriage, we had some little things that just reminded us. We had little words. So one was, you know, “we need to swim back.” So, you can often find yourself, because of a season of time or a season with your kids or whatever on the different islands, and we would just say, we got to swim back. And so that was one of our things that we did. And then we also had a, if we went too long, we just realized we weren't intentional about our intimacy of any kind. It was just basically, “Hey, you didn't kiss me today.” And we used to make that, “No, you didn't kiss me today.” And it was just a thing we tried to do to make sure that we had these little things that just kept us reminded. And so, they were really, they were kind of practical, just little code words for us that made a difference and got our minds back to where it needed to be. Jolene Rocke: (24:41 - 24:50) Yeah, and in the busyness, that's easy to remember those little swing thoughts. Laura Dugger: (24:50 - 30:17) Swim back. And now a brief message from our sponsor. Did you know you can go to college tuition free just by being a team member at Chick-fil-A East Peoria? Yes, you heard that right. Free college education. All Chick-fil-A East Peoria team members in good standing are immediately eligible for a free college education through Point University. Point University is a fully accredited private Christian college located in West Point, Georgia. 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We ask that you also will share by sharing financially, sharing the Savvy Sauce podcast episodes, and sharing a five-star rating and review. You can also share any of our social media posts on Instagram or Facebook. We are grateful for all of it and we just love partnering together with you. Now, back to the show. What encouragement do you have for healthy communication and healthy conflict resolution in marriage? Jon Rocke: (30:19 - 31:31) God's grace. It's going to have to take time. You have to find that time together. So, I think it's all about prioritizing that time. I don't necessarily like conflict, but I know in our marriage you can't avoid it. And so, we just had to work through it right away. And so, I would say don't let time simmer conflict because that usually never makes it better. Certainly, there's a sense of if there's something that's really emotional and maybe you need some space. My problem is I often don't give Jolene that space and that's hard on her, it really is, and sometimes not fair. But in the same vein, for me it felt like I didn't care if I just said, “Well, go ahead and be angry or be whatever or be upset about this or just let's not deal with it.” And she was gracious in pressing in and doing that. But I think don't let time go, just deal with it. Jolene Rocke: (31:32 - 33:26) And two, the encouragement I think of is that Jon and I tell each other everything, every little thing. And we are very aware of couples that don't. And when Jon was holding back for me in that valley time, I really noticed it and I felt pretty alone. So, if you're always telling each other everything, there should be no secrets. So that just means there might be conflict then. If you're going to tell each other everything, then there might be conflict and you need to be prepared for that. But that's better than me not saying anything. I sometimes say it's like a teapot, you're simmering or you're spouting. What's the perfect in the middle balance? It's really important to not simmer because you will spout eventually and then that's a harder conflict than if you just kept talking, kept telling every little thing. And so, we do tell each other every little thing. Laura Dugger: (33:26 - 33:40) Well, and to go with that metaphor, if you have a release valve where that hot air can escape, it sounds like your communication has been that where you can get the water temperature back to a healthy place in the relationship. Jolene Rocke: (33:40 - 33:55) Yeah, yes. And that takes work. So, I mean, honestly, what encouragement? Don't give up. Just keep going because it's worth it. Laura Dugger: (33:55 - 34:10) Well, and I'm thinking back. Okay, so you had three kids. They're somewhat close together and you were young. So those years when all of your children were in the home, even elementary school age, that timeframe, what did that look like for communication? How did you still make sure you connected every day? Jon Rocke: (33:26 - 34:31) Well, then throw in, we went to college after we had kids, which was actually, again, just God's grace and gift to us that we were able to leave town, leave the family business for a while, didn't think we were going to be involved in family business, went out to Indiana, went to school, and we didn't have anybody else but ourselves. And so that, again, was just his gift to us as young. We went in 1980, so that was two years after we were married. So, we already had Janelle at that point, and then Jamie came along soon after. And so, I had school but had to work to support. Jolene had to work and she was mom to two little ones. And so, again, I think it was just those times of making sure that we said nothing else can get in the way of us. Again, another phrase that we just had was, you know, we can get through anything together and nothing apart. Jolene Rocke: (34:32 - 35:21) And that's not a flippant statement for us. That means we're trying and we're going to find the intentional time, put them to bed early, and make sure on weekends we're connecting well. And that meant sometimes driving with our kids. We'd go on drives. But that's Jon and I being able to talk. And then if they're goofing off in the back seat, it's okay. It's just fine because we actually are having talk time. Drive time has always been great communication time for us. Laura Dugger: (35:21 - 35:35) That's really helpful, I think, for parents in any season. And you're talking about God's grace. So how has grace, and even forgiveness, benefited your relationship? Jolene Rocke: (35:35 - 35:40) It's everything to our relationship. Jon Rocke: (35:22 - 37:12) It's the only thing in everything. The parable of the unjust steward in Matthew 18 and just this idea that if you catch the enormity of your sin, then you can forgive others. And so that has been, I think, an important part of what we do because I love that whole story. Peter is asking that question, “How many times do I have to forgive somebody?” And if you think about a marriage context, well, that's a great question because my guess is it's going to be thousands upon thousands of times for whatever little or big things they are. And he's kind of like loading up. I feel that he's getting ready to say, “I've already forgiven this person six times. So, is it seven? And then after that, there's no more?” And the whole point of that is, oh, you really want to keep numbers, Peter? Here's the numbers. You've been forgiven zillions. And so, what's the little trifle amount that you're not going to forgive? And so, I'm thankful that Jolene is gracious because she's had to forgive me and continues to. We're still learning in a new season of life where now we get to work together, which to me is a really great joy. But it's also a different reality where we have a lot of work talk. Well, that's great. And we love that. But that can't dominate everything either. And so that's another one of those things that we have to figure out how to carve out our time away from work. Even though we enjoy working together and it's really fun, it's a new thing. That can't get in the way of us either. Jolene Rocke: (37:13 - 40:14) There's got to be grace on both parts that now as I look at him as a boss also. And my husband, you know, I need to give a lot of grace to realize he's working within a momentum around a team and a leadership. But then as he comes home, and I'm very fully aware now of what a hat change that means for a man. That means that he's taking off his hat now and becoming my husband at home. And so, it's grace on both sides as he sees me working even under him or with him as a team. But it's a lot of grace and forgiveness over the years because in the early years as you're raising children, there might be unmet expectations is something I wrote down because I feel like as I think back to this pursuer of God and who I married and I remember those early years thinking, well, wow, he's not leading in devotions in the family. And I'm kind of struggling to find, I need to, as the mom then, pick that up and make sure we're doing with the children some family devotions. Well, that can create controversy. It can be that I would be upset, but I needed to forgive him for the fact that he didn't mean to do that and abdicate that responsibility. He just didn't know. And so, there's so much about being graceful as a wife to say, okay, I understand. That wasn't maybe how you were raised, or you didn't see that modeled in the home. But this is what I would desire for our family. And so, you just keep working and you keep forgiving because we've been forgiven so much, as Jon said. So, we know that. And I think the other key thing then with forgiveness becomes no record keeping, just as love is in 1 Corinthians 13. It doesn't keep the record of wrongs. I don't need to sit around with my time and in my brain and think about how much I've forgiven Jon. I need to think about the fact that God's forgiven so much in me, and he has to forgive me all the time. So, you're on this equal footing with forgiveness rather than trying to harbor a record of wrongs. Laura Dugger: (40:14 - 40:40) Well, and I think you bring up examples for how it works in our families as well with children. And so, it's clear you two have such a solid marriage and you also have a thriving relationship with your adult children and your grandchildren and all their families. So, I think you just have a lot that you could teach us about raising a family as well. What are you so thankful that you did when your kids were living at home that you're now getting to see the payoff as they're adults? Jon Rocke: (40:16 - 41:43) We literally grew up with our kids. So sorry for our kids that they had to, you know, grow up with their mom and dad. But that's been a lot of fun too because we did a lot of play. Again, these are just little things for us, these little words. So, as the kids were young, we used to, something that bothered them is I would tell them pretty plainly that I love mom most. And so, kids will always try to drive a wedge between mom and dad. That's just part of the fallen nature of kids. And so, we really communicated early. Our kids will tell you that was a hard lesson for them to learn that they didn't quite understand at that age, right? But they've really come to appreciate that in their own marriages. And then the other thing that we said was we choose you second. So, they knew we choose each other first because you're going to be gone someday and mom's not. And so, but we will always choose you second. So, friends were not a higher priority or social or hobby or anything. You know, the kids were always knew they were second. And so our kids are scattered all across, although we have Jamie and Jonathan here, one family here in Morton that we love to live life with. The others are gone, but I think we're still close in a lot of ways from that. Jolene Rocke: (41:45 - 45:27) Yeah, I think we're a close family because we have stuck together through not just the ups, but the downs, but we're fun loving. Jon and I like games. We like to do stuff, and we like to go places. We prioritized vacation when they were little so that we were all together in an intentional environment that was away from home. And so, we were together, they enjoyed going to Florida every year and it was always what we called just happenstances that were so adverse. It wasn't your ideal. And so, we did not have ideal things happen on any trip, actually, that we go on. So, what we decided to call them is adventures. So, we intentionally took adverse situations, whether that's a flat tire, going to Florida with all the kids and it's the middle of the night and we're all sitting at a gas station on the curb waiting for the next tire to get fixed. It's just, we just always called them adventures and I'm not sorry for that. That's something our kids are passing on to their kids when things happen. Our son in particular, Jordan, his family seems to have a lot of adventures, like Jon and I have had. And that's what they call them to their children. So, I'm not sorry for the word adventure. Jon taught me a saying that he used to say, you love your children, even if you don't like them or you will lose them. And that was really important in the teenage years. When one of our children was struggling in junior high, I knew even if I didn't like the way this one was acting, I needed to just keep loving them as scripture says, right? Not if they're perfect, but all the time. And so, we didn't lose her through that time, I think because there was so much intentional loving beyond the liking. The other thing that I would just mention with that to encourage any, any mom or dad, I picked up the book, The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman and had this daughter read it with me so that we can learn, how do we love each other? Well, through this time when it feels like we don't really like each other that well. So, well, wow. I had no idea. It was physical touch for you. And I, I thought it was the acts of service. And you would notice that I picked up your room because I knew you had a hard day in a test at school. Well, there was never any knowledge or awareness that I did that for her. But whenever I put my arms around her and gave her a giant hug and wouldn't let her go until she melted in my arms, I realized, yes, that's what she, that's how I can love her best. Laura Dugger: (45:27 - 45:50) That is awesome to hear that story. It is helpful to have actionable things that we can replicate. And so, I am going to link in the show notes to a few of our episodes that may be beneficial. If people want to take that concept a step further, Dr. Gary Chapman has been a previous guest. I'll link to those. And then also Katie Mueller talked about traveling with your family and the lessons that the Lord teaches his children about traveling in the Bible and how that applies to us. That's great. So, if you're willing, will you share anything more about the honeymoon? I'm so curious now. Jon Rocke: (45:27 - 46:35) We will. I feel like we're taking too much time here. Jolene Rocke: (46:35 - 46:36) I don't know, but well, we knew that this was setting the tone for marriage as far as adventures. Jon Rocke: (46:36 - 46:37) But well, the very first off we, we got on a plane. So, we got married on a Sunday and we were flying out down to Florida on Sunday night. We got to Atlanta where we were supposed to connect to another plane. We were supposed to go to Fort Myers, Florida and there had been a storm and, and they were rushing to get us on the right flights or to get us to the next flight. And they put us on the wrong plane. You know, this was back in the day where that could happen. Couldn't happen today, but put us on the wrong plane. We ended up in Melbourne, Florida at midnight last flight of the night. You know, we're newlyweds. We're supposed to be, you know, on our honeymoon. They put us up at a Holiday Inn Express with the crew and said, you know, we'll get you out a flight. You have to be up at 4 a.m. And so, you know, I was, our first night was not necessarily what you would, you know, call the most romantic night that we could have. And then do you want to tell the second story of our honeymoon? Jolene Rocke: (46:36 - 46:37) The canoe trip. Jon Rocke: (46:37 - 46:37) Yeah. Jolene Rocke: (46:37 - 47:28) The canoe trip is, I have such bad allergies to many things. And so, Jon knew that because we tried to go horseback riding and I thought I'd be okay because it was outdoors, but the dander on the horse made me just blow up into a big ball on my face. And so, he realized how much I have a problem with allergies, but we decided to go canoeing in a very narrow mangrove swamp. That was really depleted in, in its depth that day. And so, we were canoeing along, but we, we got into the side of the mangrove trees and out came a Hornets, Hornets out of this giant nest and stung me all over my back. Jon Rocke: (47:28 - 47:50) And so Jon went into, I'm like thinking that my six day, you know, marriage is over. My wife, who's so allergic, we're half hour out on our journey and I'm, she's like going to die on the spot. Cause I figured if she's so allergic to animals, then this many, you know, bee stings or wasp stings, she's, you know, she's dead. Jolene Rocke: (47:52 - 48:12) So he jumps, jumps out. Yeah. First, the truth is he took my top off and started taking mud from the bottom of the creek and, just plasters me with mud on my back. And then he jumps out of the canoe and starts running the, the canoe. Cause it was pretty shallow. Jon Rocke: (48:12 - 48:31) I decided it was going to be quicker to get her back in time. I figured I had about 30 minutes, you know, to, to try to get her to some medical attention. And so, yeah, so I'm running the canoe back instead of paddling it. Cause I knew I could get faster. Well, then I cut my foot on a shoal and we're a mess. Jolene Rocke: (48:31 - 48:37) I mean, he had it. What? Like six-inch stitches. So, we ended up in the ER here. Jon Rocke: (48:37 - 48:38) Yeah. Jolene Rocke: (48:38 - 48:52) Both of us with me, with stings, Jon, with a cut. And, and that was just the start of the honeymoon that we called a giant adventure adventure since it wasn't great. Jon Rocke: (48:52 - 48:55) It's been a 44-year adventure. Laura Dugger: (48:55 - 49:15) You did start with quite the adventure. I love that. And I think the husbands' listening will appreciate, of course you took their top off first. Jon Rocke: (49:03 - 49:04) That's right. Jolene Rocke: (49:05 - 49:07) It was a little embarrassing. Jon Rocke: (49:08 - 49:10) It was a good thing. Nobody else. Jolene Rocke: (49:10 - 49:15) Nobody else. Laura Dugger: (49:15 - 49:25) Sorry. I had to tease on that part, but through various seasons, how did you prioritize one another above your kids, your career and your own families of origin? Jon Rocke: (49:25 - 50:35) We just knew we had to have time. So, a couple of things. I mean, we had a fortunate built in mechanism too, to take trips together. So, within our family business, we had conferences and such that we had to attend. And so, we made that a priority that we were going to do those together. I wasn't going to just go by myself. And so, a couple of times a year, and now that we're working together, it can feel like life blurs between everything. So, while we're at home, we're still talking about work and we're still dealing with ministry. And the other thing is with our kids away, a lot of our trip time is spent with our kids. So, we have to make that, that's gotta be a priority, but we realized we still need just our time away. and when we got, we went down to Florida and we just said, okay, no work talk for these five days, you know, no work talk. And it was pretty fun because most of the time Jolene broke that rule. And I would say, wait a minute, no work talk. Jolene Rocke: (50:36 - 50:36) It's true. Jon Rocke: (50:37 - 51:09) It's very true. But those, so trips were a big thing for us, and they don't have to be a big deal trip, but a weekend away to break the routine. You know, the example of that was, that's why God created festivals and holidays were to break routine and to have a stop in our everyday lives. And so, he knew we needed that to reconnect with him. Well, we know we need that in our marriages is to break the routine. Jolene Rocke: (51:10 - 52:17) Very intentionally. Jon was wise enough to know we needed that as even as young as he was. Can you imagine the volumes of love that that spoke to me, that he wanted me to go with him on the trips. So that meant so much to me. And it still does today because he always wants me to go with him. And then I, I just have over the years, like when the kids were at home, that was days of rest for me when he was in meetings. But as I started growing too, as a person and not needing as much rest, I also would go into all the meetings because I liked the learning. But even as we went through college, like I just was always a part of the learning. And, and I liked that, but Jon included me. That said a lot to me. Laura Dugger: (52:18 - 52:25) And I love your companionship, how you prioritize that. What advice do you have for all of us married couples as we seek to grow as one rather than start to grow parallel or even worse, start to grow apart from one another? Jon Rocke: (52:18 - 52:47) Yeah, I think find things to do together. That's part of how even the biking, the tandem thing came about. Cause if we went out on bikes on our individual bikes, then I'm like, I'm wanting to run ahead. Well, you know, and then, and she's like, you know, you're not getting very much exercise or whatever the case may be. But then on a tandem, we could accomplish everything together. And so, finding some of those things. Jolene Rocke: (52:47 - 54:56) So there's seasons of time when you're raising your children, like that, Jon was biking by himself and with some other men in a fast pace for extreme exercise. And I was doing my thing. And so, I'm not saying that hobbies apart from one another are negative, but for us, they've been mostly together. And so that just means that even there was a period that yes, Jon would go out golfing, not in excess, but when our kids were around and little, I think I was communicating even in that, that you don't just go off golfing every Saturday and leave your wife with the kids on a Saturday because you now that's your day off work. No, it's, we never get a day off work. So, you need to kick in at home too. So, there was this balance, I think is a really good word for how do you, how do you do like even individual hobbies and exercise even, but then mostly we're always trying to figure out how we can do things together. So, taking a back seat, literally on a tandem bike and knowing that that was going to help our marriage to be together. I also said recently now in a decade ago, I will learn how to golf. And so that, that just meant, again, I have no, no interest that much in golfing. I thought I loved riding the car around and being outside, but now it's like, yes, I will learn to golf if that means that that's another hobby and a sport and an activity that we can do together. So, we started a Friday night golf time, just Jon and I, it's a date night of golf and Dairy Queen supper. We call it Dairy Queen supper because we just don't eat supper, but we eat Dairy Queen after we go. So there again, there's just like, what are, what can we do together? And we're still doing date nights because it's just, we actually are really good friends still. Jon Rocke: (54:57 - 55:51) Well, I think like I say, every season has been different for us. There was a time where kids were intense and Joe was a phenomenal mom and, was totally engaged in that. And you're in your career phase too. And so, all those things are competing. Well, then we've come back in the last five years and now we work together. So that's a different whole different dynamic. And so that's why we needed, you know, yeah, we need a golf and Dairy Queen night because we just need to get away from the intensity of our work relationship, you know, and take that break on our tandems. We usually ride for breakfast. So, most things have to do with food. It's not about exercise. It's about how to eat. So that's kind of just part of what we do. Laura Dugger: (55:51 - 56:19) I love it though. That's an interest for all people. It's something that we have to do multiple times a day. Well, what do you want to leave us with? Whether it's a challenge or scripture, it can be anything, but how would you like to wind down our time together today? Jolene Rocke: (56:19 - 56:30) I'm going to just say to encourage everyone. Our marriage has taken compromise and it's taken communication and it pays off in the end. Jon Rocke: (56:19 - 57:11) You know, Ephesians 5 is really an important understanding that it's submitting to each other. The idea of wives submit to your husband, you're not catching the whole picture of that. If that's what your focus is, because it's husband loves you, love your wives as Christ loved the church. And so, and it starts the whole section off with submit to one another. And so, we have to be just intentional and committed. One of my favorite sayings is from Augustine, who says, when he was in prayer one time says to God, “Command what you will, but give what you command.” And so, when I think about our marriage, that's what grace is all about. Yes, it takes intentionality and commitment, but that only comes by his grace. Jolene Rocke: (57:11 - 57:55) And one other thing that I thought of is that we always taught our kids to remember whose they are. And that just means that if you do that within a marriage too, and you're remembering that you're the Lord's, you're made in his image, then you relate and you will love the other one better. Even as you know your identity in Christ first, you will love your mate better. Laura Dugger: (57:55 - 58:05) Amen. And you too may know we're called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge. And so, as my final question for both of you today, what is your savvy sauce? Jon Rocke: (57:56 - 58:07) You know, I just say submission is a good thing. It's not associated that way, but in a marriage it's such a good thing. Jolene Rocke: (58:08 - 59:13) So that's both submitting to each other, not just the wife being clamped down. But our savvy sauce would be that sacrifice and submission are good things. They're not bad words. So, in our experience, a savvy sauce for our 44-year-old marriage is that sacrifice and submission have been very good things on both of our parts. Laura Dugger: (59:13 - 59:20) Well, you clearly live this out, and you've been great role models to Mark and to me and our family. You love one another with such an intensity, and you love your Lord that way, and you love your children that way in your community. And I just see the way that He's had this ripple out from being intentional in the most key important parts of life, and that He's really blessed you in that, but He's also blessed all of us around you. So, thank you for sharing your journey with us. Thank you so much for being my guest. Jolene Rocke: (59:20 - 59:22) It's been so great to be here with you. Thanks for asking, Laura. Jon Rocke: (59:13 - 59:27) Yeah, it's been a privilege for us just to take the time to reflect again and realize the challenges, but really just celebrate what God has done through His grace in us and our marriage. So, thanks. Laura Dugger: (59:27 - 1:03:10) One more thing before you go, have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you, but it starts with the bad news. Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved. We need a savior, but God loved us so much. He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him. That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life. We could never live and died in our place for our sin. This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished. If we choose to receive what he has done for us, Romans 10:9 says, “that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” So, you pray with me now. Heavenly father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you. Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me. So, me for him, you get the opportunity to live your life for him. And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you're ready to get started. First, tell someone, say it out loud, get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes and Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it. You can start by reading the book of John. Also get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you. We want to celebrate with you too. So, feel free to leave a comment for us here. If you did make a decision to follow Christ, we also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process. And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “in the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today. And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.
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