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Hard to pick a lede between the MLB playoffs and the WNBA playoffs. San Diego becoming a nice little baseball town. Audio of our friend Hunter Brody's instant reaction to the Phillies loss yesterday. Goo Feiner. Sophie Cunningham 0-2 from three and another lost bet. Home teams getting booed in the playoffs. Little nipples. Restitution, really. Doug's carriage house. Big showdown for the EMOTD. Go Tiger, Beat Gators. Beautiful weather for a Columbia Pony on Saturday. BTA. The apology fell off a little bit.Some more Hunter Brody audio for ya. Doug well on his way to platinum chunks. Doug's affinity for gas station pizza. Grease missiles. Audio of Drink talking about needing execution to better than it was against Mississippi State. Toughness Tuesday. Tell em good luck. Talking to townies at Club Vogue. Pole Barn. Jackson's rolling with Shane Beamer this weekend. Audio of Shane Beamer talking about how good of a practice they had. I don't know about that one, Chief. Drink talking about the 4th and 1 with Kamario Taylor near the goal line.Singing songs. Al Green. Revisiting the audio of the hot mic situation at the Sacramento Kings media day. The hotness of the old Rams backfield. Which athlete that Martin has covered had the smoothest skin? Gotta think Keith Lyle is up there. Martin wants to talk about the new coaches in the UFL. The alliance is falling apart. The Pervert & The Fairy Boy.Tim feeling the pressure from a 12-3 start to wagering on college football. Two For the Money: Good or Bad? Neither. Need an injection of funds. They want us to preview the Doggies match. I am old money and I do wear a tail.What's the latest you can sleep in? Bathing in brown liquor. They're not happy in Boston, Philadelphia, Houston, and Chicago. You're pretty much done for in the MLB playoffs if you lose the first game of the three-game series. Padres vs. Dodgers in the NLCS? Who would Goo Feiner like? Audio of another hot mic sitch, this time in an NHL game. Our feet are getting held to the fire. An alliance of hate is forming.Come on Blues, just get two points this weekend. Just three teams with longer odds to win The Cup this season. Middle of the Puck Pack. The 6-1-Hate is spiraling and definitely has truck nuts. Steve in Demun checking in on the phone lines and he's revved up this morning. Are there any Blues bars in Rome? Golfing with a Cardinal pitcher (not McGreevy). Making international phone calls. Nothing going on in St. Louis, let's have some fun. Iggy can't quit Facebook. Old people addicted to their screens.Is this Jackson's karaoke song? Unbelievable what's about to go down in the EMOTD for the month of September competition. Chairman likes to take it in when Tim reads it.Jackson sings the Fresh Prince theme song. Martin wants more energy next time. Design Aire Heating & Cooling EMOTDJeremy Rutherford in-studio and the two part questions are already coming in. Alexander Nikishin. Mailloux's injury. Dating within the family. Doug's Dockers. Moving on from Jordan Kyrou. The JeffCo aroma. JR gonna sit in for another segment.Does Jackson have any questions for JR? Awful Announcing ranking the NHL media meals. Blues coming in at 29th. Who's the fastest skater on the squad. The Western Conference wild card outlook. Steve Ott in Springfield. Jack In The Box tacos.Sounds like the Portland Trailblazers won't be leaving Portland. Guess Jackson won't be the play-by-play guy. Take your time and proofread before you hit send. Spending your days tattling.And the winner of the EMOTD is...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00-4:07) Is this Jackson's karaoke song? Unbelievable what's about to go down in the EMOTD for the month of September competition. Chairman likes to take it in when Tim reads it.(4:15-14:47) Jackson sings the Fresh Prince theme song. Martin wants more energy next time. Design Aire Heating & Cooling EMOTD(14:57-26:43) Jeremy Rutherford in-studio and the two part questions are already coming in. Alexander Nikishin. Mailloux's injury. Dating within the family. Doug's Dockers. Moving on from Jordan Kyrou. The JeffCo aroma. JR gonna sit in for another segment.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Send us Fan MailA 19-year-old from Dearborn Heights accepted to 65 law school at 63 wayne state university ? Rami Hemes did exactly that — and it's almost unheard of.In this real-talk conversation, Rami breaks down how he skipped the normal 4-year path, what it took to get accepted so young, how he handles being the youngest in the room, and what Arab and Muslim parents in the 313 need to know if their kid wants to move fast.IN THIS EPISODE:  Who is Rami Hemes and when did 65 law school become the plan? Exact timeline: How he got to 63 wayne state university at 19  The moment he decided not to do the normal path  The grind: dual enrollment, AP, early college and summer classes  What he sacrificed — social life, sleep, and what locked-in really meant  Youngest in the classroom: respect, pressure, and proving himself  Culture & community: How  dearborn heights michigan pushed him forward  Faith, discipline, and family structure behind the success  What kind of law he wants to practice and how he wants to serve  Advice for parents: How to support a gifted kid in any professionDrop your questions in the live chat!SUBSCRIBE to OZ Media for MotivateMe313 Podcast, Detroit real talk, and 65 applying to law school + 68 lsat tips mindset stories. More:Ozmedia313.comFollow us on social media:- Instagram: @MotivateMe313 or @ozmedia313- Website: ozmedia313.com- LinkedIn: ozmedia-TikTok: @ozmedia313-Apple Podcast: ozmedia-Spotify Podcast: ozmediaThis show was sponsored by:-The Family Doc https://thefamilydocmi.com/-Wingfellas thewingfellas.com-Hanley International Academy https://www.hanleyacademy.com-Chill Box https://www.chillboxstore.com/-Emari Roast Cafe https://www.emariroastcafe.com/ -Family Rehab Care Physical Therapy https://familyrehabcareexpertintaylormi.org/-Atlaw https://www.atlawgroup.com/

Join Luke and  @LMETV  as we cover many different topics. On the show I asked Luis his feelings and thoughts on the following topics -  - Thoughts from Summer Recruitment to Current State - Impressing new Players - Biggest Positive  - Reasons for Concern - Alejandro Garnacho - Unai Motivation #astonvilla #avfc #premierleague

In this special throwback episode,Nachi Gordon sits down with Rivka Shotkin, a 16 year old from Passaic and the youngest guest in Meaningful People history. On January 31, 2021, a family ski trip in Tannersville ended when Rivka missed a turn on her last run of the day and went straight into a tree, breaking 11 bones, puncturing both lungs, and severing her spinal cord. She walks us through waking up in the ICU nine days later, three months of rehab during COVID without being able to see her family, and landing back in the hospital with septic shock just five days after finally coming home.   What makes this one special is how Rivka talks about all of it. She opens up about how unhappy she was before the accident, the strange sense of peace she felt that weekend, why she now calls her injury a gift, and what she wants the community to understand about treating people in wheelchairs. It's funny, honest, and genuinely inspiring.   This episode is sponsored by:   ► PZ Deals   Never pay full price again when you download the PZ Deals app.   https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp   _________________   ► Colel Chabad Pushka App   The easiest way to give Tzedaka.   https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful   _________________   ► Shopify Guru   Store looks great but not selling the way it should? Shopify Guru's Daniel gets under the hood and makes it actually work, no developer needed every time you want to make a change. Call 732-534-1404 or go to shopifyguru.io.   https://go.jcn.io/sgmp   _________________   ► Ness Vacation Homes   Eden Gardens' largest luxury home collection. Handpicked, high end homes available exclusively through Ness.   https://nessvacationhomes.com/   _________________   ► Rothenberg Law Firm   Personal Injury Law Firm for 50+ years! Reach out today for a free case evaluation.   https://shorturl.at/JFKHH   _________________   ► Town Appliance   Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp.   https://www.townappliance.com   https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp     Timestamps:   0:00 Intro: Meet Rivka Shotkin, MPP's Youngest Guest Ever 4:02 Welcome to the Studio and Growing Up in Passaic 7:23 The Ski Trip to Tannersville That Changed Everything 10:10 Airlifted to Albany and Waking Up Nine Days Later 13:20 Learning Rivka Was Paralyzed and Eli Portell's Advice 15:49 Anger, Dark Humor, and Taking It in Stride 18:04 Three Months of Rehab During COVID 22:07 Punishment, Test, or Gift? 23:33 Coming Home, a Wedding Cake, and Septic Shock 27:29 How to Accept What You Never Signed Up For 29:45 Unhappy Before the Accident and a Strange Premonition 31:57 Choosing Happiness and Strength From Rivka's Parents 34:59 Brain Surgeon Dreams and How to Treat People in Wheelchairs 38:20 Emunah, Hashgacha, and Not Being Afraid of the Pain 42:36 Rivka's Second Rosh Hashanah 46:17 Camp Simcha and Rivka's Support System 49:06 Poetry, Dreams, and Determination

UNbelievable, UNinspiring, UNhinged - UN General Assembly meets in New York...what is the orange clown really at? How can the UN leadership remain silent? Meanwhile Iran speaks with dignity & strength while Micheal Martin makes a show of himself . We discuss

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Ok, had to get this episode out asap. There are huge changes coming to the Fulfillment network at Amazon and we had the two absolute experts join us today live from Amazon Accelerate in Seattle. Pattern COO and VP of Supply Chain walk us through what has changed and how sellers should adapt this holiday season! Unbelievable insights here! Listen/Watch and share ASAP!       FEEDSPOT TOP 10 Retail Podcast! https://podcast.feedspot.com/retail_podcasts/?feedid=5770554&_src=f2_featured_email GUEST Rob Hahn  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hahn-12136736/ Pattern: https://www.pattern.com/   Gues: Andrew Bignell  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-bignell-8043091a/ Pattern: https://www.pattern.com/ QUICKFIRE Info:   Website: https://www.quickfirenow.com/ Email the Show: info@quickfirenow.com  Talk to us on Social: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/quickfireproductions Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/quickfire__/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@quickfiremarketing LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/quickfire-productions-llc/about/ Sports podcast Scott has been doing since 2017, Scott & Tim Sports Show part of Somethin About Nothin:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/somethin-about-nothin/id1306950451 HOSTS: Summer Jubelirer has been in digital commerce and marketing for over 17 years. After spending many years working for digital and ecommerce agencies working with multi-million dollar brands and running teams of Account Managers, she is now the Amazon Manager at OLLY PBC.   LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/summerjubelirer/   Scott Ohsman has been working with brands for over 30 years in retail, online and has launched over 200 brands on Amazon. Mr. Ohsman has been managing brands on Amazon for 19yrs. Owning his own sales and marketing agency in the Pacific NW, is now VP of Digital Commerce for Quickfire LLC. Producer and Co-Host for the top 5 retail podcast, Always Off Brand. He also produces the Brain Driven Brands Podcast featuring leading Consumer Behaviorist Sarah Levinger. Scott has been a featured speaker at national trade shows and has developed distribution strategies for many top brands. LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-ohsman-861196a6/   Hayley Brucker has been working in retail and with Amazon for years. Hayley has extensive experience in digital advertising, both seller and vendor central on Amazon. Hayley lives in North Carolina.  LinkedIn -https://www.linkedin.com/in/hayley-brucker-1945bb229/   Huge thanks to Cytrus our show theme music "Office Party" available wherever you get your music. Check them out here: Facebook https://www.facebook.com/cytrusmusic Instagram https://www.instagram.com/cytrusmusic/ Twitter https://twitter.com/cytrusmusic SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6VrNLN6Thj1iUMsiL4Yt5q?si=MeRsjqYfQiafl0f021kHwg APPLE MUSIC https://music.apple.com/us/artist/cytrus/1462321449   "Always Off Brand" is part of the Quickfire Podcast Network and produced by Quickfire LLC.  

The Outer Realm welcomes very Special Guest Camille James Harman Date: September 23rd, 2026 EP: 775 DISCUSSION: A Healing Journey- Abduction, Loss & The Path to NHI/UAP Disclosure . Tonight, Camille James Harman will talk about her NHI/UAP Experiences and Contact. In1995, after moving to Los Angeles from New Orleans, Camille had her first UAP sighting and anomalous experiences. She underwent hypnosis which revealed frightening events with non-humans, humans and loving light beings. She has had an amazing journey and will be sharing it with us all this evening. Contact for the show - theouterrealmcontact@gmail.com https://linktr.ee/michelledesrochers_ Please support us by Liking, Subscribing, Sharing and Commenting. Thank you All!!! About Camille: Camille started acting in plays when she was 20. After completing her MFA at the University of New Orleans, she played Lady Anne in Richard III outdoors at the Peristyle at City Park in New Orleans. Her first SAG film was Silent Cries with Annabeth Gish and the late Gena Rowlands in 1993. She played Mary Matalin in the 2018 Oscar-winning film Vice with Christian Bale as Dick Cheney. She loved working with Kati Rausch in the award-winning short Tigerlilly, for which she won two Best Actress awards in 2022. She was executive producer on the award-winning short film Toro de Oro. She acted in The Gospel According to Ruth, a short film which won several awards in 2022-23. In 2023, she acted in the hit vertical drama The Double Life of my Billionaire Husband (60M+ views) and, because she loves The History Channel, She was a re-enactment performer in The Unbelievable with Dan Aykroyd . She is featured in a Jan. 30, 2024 article in The New York Times, in which I was interviewed about the company ReelShort. She also appears in UFO documentaries. She speaks about my UFO encounters that she has had since 1995. She wrote for UFO Magazine from 2000-2005. See her as herself in Episode 13 of Season 1 of Alien Disclosure Files on Amazon, In Their Words: Stories of Alien Contact and Accidental Truth Next, as of June 2, 2026. She saw it premiere at Contact in the Desert. Camille is a guest on many podcasts as well, and has several media credits which can be found on her website. WEBSITE: https://camillejamesharman.com/ If you enjoy the content on the channel, please support us by subscribing: Thank you All A formal disclosure: The opinions and information presented or expressed by guests on The Outer Realm Radio and Beyond The Outer Realm are not necessarily those of the TOR, BTOR Hosts, Sponsors, or the United Public Radio Network, Owner and Producers. "For Entertainment Purposes Only" United Public Radio & UFO Paranormal Radio www.uprntalkradio.com

Unbelievable local business drama!

Unbelievable local business drama!

We follow SEAN McPHERSON of City Cast Twin Cities thru a round of music trivia and learn something new about crows. Plus sights that are real AND unbelievable at the same time, everything from nuclear submarines to spaceships buzzing by with a sonic boom. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This hour Henry wonders who is Minnesota's fan favorite among role players in Minnesota sports with Naz Reid gone, what do you think of when you hear that someone is a “streamer”, Kansas City Royals broadcaster Denny Matthews is going to broadcast his 8,000th game, and more.

Reusse calls the Vikings' victory over the Bears the second most unusual game between the teams since they began playing in 1961. Pat takes a few shots at Ben Johnson, praises Dallas Turner and Brian Flores and has thoughts on the Twins and Gophers football.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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They analyze Alex Anthopoulos's successful trade deadline moves for the Braves before diving into the drama surrounding Lane Kiffin's move to LSU in a simulated season. The discussion covers the emotional fallout at Ole Miss, the performance of standout player Trinidad Chambliss, and Colorado's recent struggles against Northwestern. (00:01:00) Braves Trade Deadline Moves (00:02:44) Lane Kiffin's LSU Return (00:05:30) Ole Miss Program Fallout (00:08:40) Colorado vs. Northwestern Recap (00:10:44) LSU vs. Texas A&M

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Identity After Stroke: Who Are You When Your Career Is Gone? Cassie Jewell got back from Iceland on a Monday. On Wednesday, she was demoted from the job she had built her life around. On Friday, she was in an ambulance with a stroke. She was 42, a licensed counsellor supervising behavioural health programs inside a US jail. She loved working with inmates and took two or three extra hours of work home most nights. “My entire identity was my career,” she told me. Within a single week, she lost the role and nearly lost her life. Her story shows something many survivors struggle to name: identity after stroke isn’t only about what your body can still do. It’s about who you are when the roles you relied on are gone. The Week Everything Changed On the Thursday night after the demotion, Cassie stayed up writing a book, determined to prove she still mattered. As she typed, her left hand stopped working. She put it down to tiredness and went to bed. She woke the next afternoon knowing something was wrong but not what. She decided it was a panic attack. Then she remembered her hand. She texted her mum, a nurse practitioner, who told her to call 911 and ask for a hospital with a stroke centre. When the paramedics arrived asking for the stroke patient, Cassie was the one who had answered the door. One side of her face was drooping and her left side was weakening. The diagnosis was an ischaemic stroke in the right basal ganglia, a deep brain region involved in movement, balance and, as she discovered, emotional regulation. If you want to understand this area of the brain better, our episode on lower basal ganglia stroke (https://recoveryafterstroke.com/lower-basal-ganglia-stroke/) goes deeper. Her doctors told her stress contributes to stroke rather than causing it directly, and her cardiologist is still monitoring her heart rhythm. Cassie has her own view: “I was literally burning myself to the ground… and then my brain was like, okay, we’ve had enough. We’re gonna stop you.” It’s a theme we’ve explored before in stroke and stress (https://recoveryafterstroke.com/stroke-and-stress-darren-walker/). When Your Brain Tells You You’re Fine The day after her stroke, Cassie tried to go to work. Her mum stopped her. Later, before she was cleared to drive, she got behind the wheel and bumped another car on her first day out. There’s a name for part of what was happening: anosognosia. It describes reduced awareness of your own deficits after a brain injury, and it’s more often associated with right-hemisphere strokes like Cassie’s. It isn’t stubbornness or denial; it’s a symptom of the injury itself, which is why a survivor can sincerely insist they’re okay while the people around them can see otherwise. Cassie summed up that period in one line: “It’s fine, it’s gonna be fine, even though it clearly, you know, wasn’t fine.” For families, understanding it can turn an argument into patience. Why Identity After Stroke Hits So Hard Identity is built from what we do, the roles we hold, and the stories we tell about ourselves, and a stroke can remove several at once. The more tightly your sense of self is tied to a single role, the larger the gap it leaves. “I lost my career and myself at the same time,” Cassie said. Her first job after returning to work didn’t last. She found she wasn’t as quick as she used to be, and that raised a harder question: “When you measure your self-worth in the things that you do… and then all of a sudden you don’t have your career anymore, who are you?” I recognised that question. Before my own strokes, I was a business owner and a dad, and I couldn’t have told you anything about myself beyond those labels. I didn’t have the vocabulary for identity loss. Guests such as Adam Wolfers (https://recoveryafterstroke.com/cerebral-vasculitis-stroke-identity-change-adam-wolfers/) have described the same collision between who they were and who they now are, and anyone weighing up work decisions may find our episode on changing career after stroke (https://recoveryafterstroke.com/change-career-after-stroke/) useful. The emotional side can catch even a professional off guard. “You’d think as a therapist I would be good with it,” Cassie said, “but I’d prefer to deal with other people’s emotions, not my own.” Our conversation about emotional changes after stroke (https://recoveryafterstroke.com/emotional-changes-after-stroke-sam-hanes/) explores this further. Choosing Who You Become Eighteen months on, Cassie doesn’t have an elevator pitch for who she is. She’s clearer about who she isn’t: someone driven by work. She values free time, her partner, and her dogs. She works full time doing intake assessments and sees private clients, and she describes herself this way: “I’m not as sharp as I was before, but I think I’m kinder.” A stroke, she says, “strips away everything else so you have nothing left but yourself,” and then “you can also choose what your new identity is gonna be.” That choice matters most. For most of my life I did what I’d been trained to do; it took a stroke to show me I could choose differently. Researchers Richard Tedeschi and Lawrence Calhoun called this post-traumatic growth: positive change that comes from the struggle with a traumatic event, not from the event itself. Cassie put it in her own words: “It’s not about the stroke. It’s about, okay, what am I gonna choose to do now?” It’s the idea at the centre of my book, The Unexpected Way That A Stroke Became The Best Thing That Happened (https://recoveryafterstroke.com/book). Practical Ways to Rebuild Identity After Stroke Drawing on Cassie’s story, here are a few starting points: Separate what you do from who you are. Write down your values, not your job titles. Values survive a stroke better than roles do. Give it time. For me, it took a few years before I could say I liked the person I’d become. Early recovery is rarely the time to decide who you’ll be forever. Let people you trust be your early-warning system. Cassie’s partner noticed her overwork long before she did, and her mum recognised the stroke symptoms. With anosognosia in the picture, other people’s observations matter. Replace old coping habits, don’t just remove them. Recovery is a chance to swap quick fixes for stress for ones that last. Use time as a lens. Cassie is reading Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman and aims to visit all 195 countries. Find people who understand. Other survivors often give you the words for your experience. Our episode on finding purpose after stroke (https://recoveryafterstroke.com/finding-purpose-after-stroke/) is a good next listen. Listen to Cassie’s Full Story Watch or listen to the full conversation with Cassie Jewell. You can find more of her work at cassie-jewell.com (https://cassie-jewell.com). If a stroke has left your world feeling smaller, my new book, Your World Doesn’t Have to Stay This Small (https://mybook.to/yourworld), is a practical guide to rebuilding your life after trauma, even when you’re not ready. If this show has helped you, you can support it at patreon.com/recoveryafterstroke. This blog is for informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. Please consult your doctor before making any changes to your health or recovery plan. Losing My Career and Myself, Then Choosing Who I’d Be – Cassie Jewell (Interview) A stroke at 42 took Cassie Jewell’s career and the identity built on it. What she found underneath changed how she works, loves, and travels. Highlights: 00:00 Introduction – Cassie’s Identity After Stroke01:08 Life Before the Stroke09:35 The Day of the Stroke23:02 Aftermath and Recovery28:41 Hospitalization and Rehabilitation Journey32:04 Dissociation and Identity Post-Stroke38:12 Life After Stroke: Adjusting to New Realities50:32 How Stroke Forced Me to Discover Who I Really Am01:02:14 The Dual Nature of Stroke Experiences Transcript: Introduction – Cassie’s Identity After Stroke Bill Gasiamis (00:00)Hi everyone, welcome back to Recovery After Stroke. I’m Bill Gassiamis. My guest today is Cassie Jewell, a counselor and author from the United States, who in February of 2025 at 42 had an ischemic stroke in the right basal ganglia. In the same week, she was moved out of the role she had built her whole identity around. We talk about perfectionism and the overwork loop that’s so hard to step out of. Why she tried to go back to work the day after her stroke, a condition called anosognosia. And the question at the heart of this episode: who are you when your career is gone? Now, if stroke has made your world feel smaller, my book is written for you. It’s called Your World Doesn’t Have to Stay This Small: A Practical Guide to Rebuilding Your Life After Trauma, Even When You’re Not Ready. Search for it on Amazon or tap the link in the show notes. And if this show has helped you, you can support it at patreon.com/recoveryafterstroke. And a massive thank you to everyone who already supports the show. You’re the reason these conversations keep happening. And now it’s time for the interview. Life Before the Stroke Bill Gasiamis (01:08)Cassie Jewell, welcome to the podcast. Cassie (01:10)Hi, how are you? Bill Gasiamis (01:12)I’m well. Thank you. Great to see you here. I really appreciate you joining me. I want to ask you a little bit about what your life was like before the stroke. What did you get up to? How did you occupy your time? Cassie (01:26)So my life was out of control before the stroke. I was working at a jail and it was a super stressful position. it was just stress all the time. I had a really bad supervisor too, a micromanager. but I also that wasn’t the only part of my life. I traveled a lot. I don’t know. It’s hard to even think about it now, honestly. Bill Gasiamis (01:54)How long ago was the stroke? Cassie (01:57)So the stroke was it’s been about a year and a half. It was February twenty first, twenty twenty five. Bill Gasiamis (02:02)Mm-hmm. w were you in a relationship? Were what’s the living arrangements like? What were you doing like personally? Cassie (02:12)Yes, I was in a relationship. I’m still in the same relationship. but I guess I was talking about work first because that was my entire life. It like revolved around my job. And I actually loved my job. It was just some of the stress part that I didn’t love. Bill Gasiamis (02:29)You loved your job, so you’re working in a jail with inmates? Cassie (02:33)Yes, I’m a therapist. Bill Gasiamis (02:36)okay. Cassie (02:38)And so I was working as a behavioral health supervisor at the jail. I didn’t have a lot of client contact, but when I did, those were the good days. But a lot of it was just inputting data, which was not fun. Bill Gasiamis (02:54)just all about reporting things to the bodies governing the jails or to Cassie (03:00)Yes. So specifically I worked with the when I say MAT, do you know what I mean by that? Medication Bill Gasiamis (03:06)No. Cassie (03:07)assisted treatment. So for the inmates who had opioid use disorders, they would start taking medication to help with that. It’s called Suboxone or buprenorfin is the name of the medication. Suboxon is the brand name. Bill Gasiamis (03:24)Mm-hmm. Cassie (03:25)But it helps with cravings, so a lot of the inmates were on the medication. My role was to track all of the inmates who were on medication. And so that was the data piece, like spreadsheets and just that was a lot. I kind of Bill Gasiamis (03:42)So you Cassie (03:43)sorry, go ahead. Bill Gasiamis (03:44)I was gonna say you became a counsellor or a therapist to have one-on-one contact with people, but you’re finding Cassie (03:53)Right. Bill Gasiamis (03:53)yourself in a situation where it’s all about statistics, data and a whole bunch of other things that you really w didn’t sign up for when you first started out to be a therapist. Cassie (04:03)Exactly. Like it was a good day if I got to spend time with clients or inmates. And a bad day would be me just at my desk, like hunched over till my neck was aching and just like I said, spreadsheets and data. Bill Gasiamis (04:18)Your world kind of revolved around work. How many hours a a week did you work? Cassie (04:24)I mean technically I was supposed to work forty hours, but I would stay late and I would work from home. So like that’s the worst thing about, you know, since the pandemic everybody works from home. I was able to bring it home with me, so if I didn’t finish something at work, I would just I’d be sitting on my couch make Bill Gasiamis (04:45)Is it that the workload was too too high or was it just the nature of the job? Cassie (04:51)So to be honest, well the workload was definitely too high and I I’m sharp enough to know like if it was or wasn’t and it definitely was, but at the same time I’m a perfectionist and I wanted things to be perfect and so that played a lot into it. And this is what I realized in hindsight, ’cause at the time I would have told you that the workload was ridiculous and like I didn’t play any role in it, but I did. Bill Gasiamis (05:20)Wow. So that’s an awareness Cassie (05:21)I wanted it. Bill Gasiamis (05:22)you’ve had recently. The perfectionism thing is a real what is it like a real barrier? Cassie (05:30)Yeah, it’s I’ve dealt with it my entire life. But when it comes to employment with certain things, you can’t be a perfectionist ’cause it’s just going to kill you eventually. And for me it almost did. Like I believe my stroke was in part caused by stress because that was the only thing in my life that was like different. I’m a pretty healthy person. Bill Gasiamis (05:56)Yeah. At home, when you were working at home, how many additional hours would you be doing if you had a regular day at work and then came home? How much additional time would you be spending? Cassie (06:06)Like two or three. Bill Gasiamis (06:08)Yeah. Okay. And then are your employers noticing? Are they going, Well, congratulations, you’ve got the best notes in the world or the best statistics or data? Cassie (06:17)Nope, nobody noticed. My manager also worked from home and I know this because she would send emails like at ten PM and be like she’s doing the same thing because I think it’s probably in America like jails are not well staffed and not well run. And it’s probably just widespread. You have people who are overworking and no wonder nobody wants to work in a jail. I loved it though. I loved the like I said, I loved working with the inmates. I like people. Bill Gasiamis (06:49)Yeah. Cassie (06:50)I like working with people. Doesn’t matter if they’re an inmate or not an inmate, like that’s why I became a therapist. Bill Gasiamis (06:57)Yeah. Ideal candidates for support therapy, Cassie (07:00)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (07:01)learning new skills, understanding how their behavior impacts their life and other people and all that type of thing. And maybe some of the first times that they’ve ever come across a therapist, would you say for s for a lot of the people that end up in jail? Cassie (07:17)Possibly. And a lot of the people who were addicted to opiates or they maybe h not b have been addicted, but who used opiates didn’t even recognize how deadly it was. They Bill Gasiamis (07:30)Mm-hmm. Cassie (07:30)had just been like they were young, like I said, children is how I see it. Like I’m in my forties now, but so everybody’s a child to me, but you know, eighteen, nineteen year olds in jail because Bill Gasiamis (07:42)Yeah, they yell. Cassie (07:43)they were using with a friend or something and they didn’t know what they were getting themselves into. Bill Gasiamis (07:47)No, that’s perfectly fine. They’re children. in my mind as well, I know they’re technically an adult, but it’s such a small gap between childhood and adulthood when you’re eighteen. Like I Cassie (08:01)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (08:02)mean, as if there’s a a year when it’s definitely an adult now. I know that the law is a little more kind of restri harsh on that definition, but The truth Cassie (08:15)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (08:15)is is this is very hard to kind of fit people into. Cassie (08:18)Their brains are still developing. Bill Gasiamis (08:19)Yeah, till twenty five or something, like many Cassie (08:22)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (08:23)of the lobes haven’t come one of the lobes at least hasn’t come online. I think it’s the frontal lobe. Cassie (08:27)That I don’t know, but I’m sure Bill Gasiamis (08:28)Yeah. Yeah. I might be wrong, but that’s okay. so life was pretty hectic, pretty full on, lots of work at home as well as at the office or in the jail. And then Cassie (08:41)Mm-hmm. Bill Gasiamis (08:42)how is that impacting kind of your just regular life in that switching off part, that doing things that you loved, or going out with your partner, or taking the dogs for a walk? How did it affect that part of it? Did it eat into that? Cassie (08:57)It did. I was not a great person to be around ’cause I was cranky all the time. I was tired all the time and thinking about work all the time. But I’ve always traveled and so I made a point to travel still. So I was still traveling the world. so that piece was good. Bill Gasiamis (09:14)Like the circuit breaker that you at least always did for a period of time. How long would those trips last? Cassie (09:22)I travel whenever I can, so sometimes it would be like a three day trip, sometimes it would be like a ten day trip. Bill Gasiamis (09:29)Uhhuh. So squeeze in whatever you can just to get out and about. Cassie (09:32)Mm-hmm. Yep. The Day of the Stroke Bill Gasiamis (09:35)So what happened on the day of the stroke? Do you have any recollection of that, any awareness of the lead up to that? Cassie (09:43)So I can tell you the story. There’s not like a anything that seemed to lead up to it. It was just living my life as normal. I had just gotten back from Iceland, but you know, like I said, that was travel was my norm. And So this is still hard for me to talk about. This was like a horrible thing that happened to me. This is like sometimes I think it’s worse than the stroke. I don’t know. If it is or not, but I was demoted from my position. And so this position is, you know, it’s everything. And then at the same time, it’s like the worst thing in the world because I’m so I’m overworked. I’m exhausted. I have a a manager who’s not supportive. And I could almost see it coming, but I was still still shocked and like. I put my like everything into my career. Like that’s who I am. Like my entire identity was my career. And so being demoted was was is maybe the worst thing that has ever happened to me. And so that happened on a Wednesday and then the stroke happened on a Friday. So it was a very busy week for me. And I had gotten back from Iceland on a Monday. So it was in one week that all these things happened. Bill Gasiamis (11:07)Intense so you’re back at work after traveling, jet lag, you know, holiday mode, all those things. Then two days later you get called into the office, you get demoted from the role that you’re in into a different position. You take Cassie (11:22)Mm-hmm. Bill Gasiamis (11:22)a bad lib by the sound of things. Cassie (11:25)I think I was very professional when it happened but it was absolutely like devastating. It’s Bill Gasiamis (11:31)Yeah. Cassie (11:32)not something I talk about because it’s still like very painful. Bill Gasiamis (11:35)Raw. Yeah. And then two days later, what happens on the Friday? How does that play out? Cassie (11:43)So it was Thursday night and I was I had just stayed up and been writing. I was working on a a book that I never ended up publishing, but it was a book that I was working on. And it was kind of like a well, let me show that I still matter, that I’m still worth something by I’m gonna write this book and so I was just driven by like spite and like my whatever, who knows. So I hadn’t gone to sleep at all, and it’s Thursday night, and I’m still up and I’m still writing, and I’m drinking wine and I’m on the couch. so leading up to it was the demotion, and had been traveling, and then I’m typing, and as I’m typing, like my left hand just stops working, and I didn’t think anything of it. I was like, that’s Weird. This is weird. And I was like, I’m gonna go to bed. I’ve had too much to drink. And so like I get up and just kinda stumble to bed. And it’s not until the next morning, well it’s a afternoon by then, when I finally wake up or I get up and I know that something’s like wrong and I don’t know what’s wrong. I’m just like I can tell that something is off with me. And I’m saying this to my partner. He’s like in the other room, but I’m still in bed. I’m like, something is wrong with me. Something is wrong with me. And I just keep on repeating that over and over again. And I couldn’t figure out what was wrong. And I was like, I decided that I was having a panic attack because I’m familiar with that. And it fit because I felt like I was dying, but I knew I wasn’t actually dying. And then I remembered, I was like, wait a minute. Last night was weird. That was weird. That thing happened. And so I don’t call 911. I text my mom. And I’m like, mom, this happened to me. My mom is a nurse practitioner, so it makes sense that I texted her instead of calling 911. And she was like, Those are stroke symptoms. Call 911 now and ask me to take you to a stroke center or to a hospital with a stroke center. So my partner ends up calling. He makes the phone call. I don’t know what I’m doing at that point. And he’s like, Yeah, maybe you should get ready. And I don’t know how I did because apparently I’m paralyzed on my left side. I don’t know when that actually s like settled in, but I was able to function enough until the ambulance arrived. And they’re like, Where’s the victim? Where’s the stroke victim? And I’m like, it’s it’s me. Cause I’m still standing, I answered the door and everything. But my Bill Gasiamis (14:21)Wow. Cassie (14:24)And I don’t know this of course, but like later I’m told one half of my face is drooping. So it was obvious, even though I’m still like walking and talking. Bill Gasiamis (14:34)And there Cassie (14:34)And I had I had pictures of it, like how bad it was, like how pronounced it was, but I deleted them all because I’m very vain and I don’t want anybody to ever see how awful it looked. Bill Gasiamis (14:44)Wow. Cassie (14:44)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (14:45)Do you prefer that you hadn’t deleted that now or are you happy that they’re gone? Cassie (14:51)I have there’s one picture left. Somebody else took the picture actually. And like looking back on it’s just I mean, I probably it probably would be good to have those pictures because I would be able to like remind myself of how far I’ve come, but it’s also like really d uncomfortable and disorienting to see yourself look like that. I don’t know if you Bill Gasiamis (15:13)Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cassie (15:15)if you have that experience if there were pictures taken of you after your stroke. Bill Gasiamis (15:20)There was, not a lot of them, only because it wasn’t the first thing on our mind. Cassie (15:26)Mm-hmm. Bill Gasiamis (15:27)but I had pictures taken when I was in the rehab facility where w I was strapped in and I was attached to the ceiling and I was walking along trying to rehabilitate my leg Cassie (15:39)Mm-hmm. Bill Gasiamis (15:40)like like a marionette. so that’s about it. And I’ve got some pictures of my scar, which were pretty epic. The surgery scar was pretty epic. Cassie (15:52)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (15:54)and and then that’s about it. and they’re Cassie (15:58)So how do you feel when you look at those pictures? Bill Gasiamis (16:01)The thing, Cassie, with me is I don’t relive the experience when I talk about it. Whereas I know people who have had something challenging happen to them that th when they’re re expi when they’re talking about it, it’s like they’re reliving it. So I kind of really understand why it’s difficult for them to talk about it or to see a photo. And when I talk about that, there’s a disassociation with it. And it’s not a disassociation that I’ve made from the perspective of I don’t want to think or remember or etc. It’s just that I I’ve spoken about it so much that it’s like I’m telling a story about somebody else. Now, Cassie (16:44)Yeah, that’s healthy. Bill Gasiamis (16:45)yeah, it’s me, but it’s not really. Cassie (16:48)Right. Bill Gasiamis (16:48)I see the pictures, but it’s 12 years since brain surgery. Like I don’t connect me to that. day, even though it’s definitely me and I have the deficits and I live with the, you know, injury and all the things that it did to me. Like, I don’t know, like I I don’t get triggered by in a negative way, but I understand when I’ve seen people talk about experiences that they get triggered by, it’s because they’re reliving it and that somehow they haven’t separated their current self to the the self that went through that part of the experience. Cassie (17:25)I also think that just the passage of time helps with it, like ’cause you’re so far removed from it. It’s Bill Gasiamis (17:30)Indeed. Cassie (17:31)like I believe that people change, like almost every decade we become new people. Not like every decade on the, you know, like at right at thirty and then forty, but like approximately every decade we become relatively Bill Gasiamis (17:44)Yeah. Cassie (17:44)different people than we were before. And so it’s like looking back Bill Gasiamis (17:49)I agree. Cassie (17:49)at a different person almost when you see that. Bill Gasiamis (17:52)I I agree. And a different person in many ways. Like not a podcaster, not an author, you know, not a speaker. a very different person, you know, and That one that the person that I was was just basically a guy not dissimilar to what you described, just getting through, you know, like working as much as possible, at home, at work, too many hours, the phone always on, people reaching me any time of the day. It was mental. and it was the best time and the worst time. I’m gonna interrupt you for a second ’cause I’m expecting a phone call. From my dad’s appointment at the hospital. One moment, please. Hello. Hey, is that Bill? Yes. Yeah, he’s done with that injunction. He’s ready to be collected. Okay. well we’ll get there as soon as we can if that’s all right. Yeah, sure. Shouldn’t be too late. Okay, no worries. I’ll just organise someone. Thank you so much. Bye bye. My dad had a little procedure. Cassie (18:58)Si okay. Bill Gasiamis (18:59)Yeah. And he just needs to get picked up. And of course I bet you’ve his grandson who was meant to pick him up has forgotten. And we’ll edit all this out anyway, so Let’s see what it says. All right. let’s see what it says. Awesome, he’s going now. yeah, so as I was saying, so I I I I put a lot of work into being a different person as well. Like that was important. I couldn’t be the same guy that came out of all of that stroke stuff because that guy was not heading in the right direction. He was gonna be unwell again. Right. And and what you said kind of reminds me of how I was. perfectionism might not have been my thing, but it was there was a thing, you know, that I bought into that I needed to do that I couldn’t do any other way, that if it didn’t happen like that it was gonna be wrong. You know? And it was for me it was I can’t outsource it to anyone else because nobody’s ever gonna do what I do, how I do it, make the customer happy so we can get paid. It yeah, it’s kind of it kind Cassie (20:08)That’s perfectionism, maybe. In a sense. Bill Gasiamis (20:11)of is. Yeah. I see perfectionism in my wife differently ’cause she described what you described at her cause she’s a she’s studying and just finished her masters in psychology. Yeah, and she does Cassie (20:27)good. It’s awesome. Bill Gasiamis (20:28)case notes and my gosh. It’s like you’ve done a day’s work. Yeah, I honestly like she does a day’s work. And then I’m like, how long did it does it need to take to do case notes after a day’s work? And she’s like, as long as it takes. And I’m like, Well, it as an outsider, somebody who doesn’t understand what you’re doing. It seems like it’s taking way too long after the session with your client to d to do the case notes. It’s it’s what it seems like to me. And and she’s not denying it, but she is kind of saying, Well, I’m early on in my career and I have to make sure that the case notes are done well, et cetera. And I’m like, How have you ever compared them to other people’s case notes to know what’s good enough or acceptable? And that’s kind of what I didn’t do either. Like I never understood that when you’re delivering a painting project to a client, ninety percent is good enough. If the client says it’s a pass, it’s a pass. And then you get paid. Trying to overdeliver to ensure payment, because I was concerned. I think it it was more for me, it was about getting paid rather than me being a stickler for perfection. It was about if I don’t do it. To the client’s expectation, then I won’t get paid. And that was kind of what it was. But it’s a similar ailment, you know, like it gets in the way of spare time and hours for me to do something other than work, but I I didn’t know it at the time. It was just the way that it was. Cassie (22:10)Yeah. Well it’s hard to know when you’re in the middle of it also. And my partner would point it out like how insane I was being and I didn’t see it. Like I said at the time I just I didn’t well Bill Gasiamis (22:26)Yeah. Cassie (22:27)I did to an extent, but not enough to make me stop. Bill Gasiamis (22:33)Yeah. And you then have maybe the exit part of the loop. Like, where do I get off the loop? You know, like how do I jump out of here? I know he’s told me, and I know somebody else might have mentioned it. And I know I’m working too many hours, but like how do I get out of it? Like what’s the the exit? I get that too. That’s kind of how I was. The stroke became that for me. Is that how you kind of experienced your stroke afterwards? Was it a circuit breaker as well as this illness? Aftermath and Recovery Cassie (23:02)Yeah, I feel like that, like the way you said it. Like I feel like I was literally burning myself to the ground, like I was burnt out and just wasn’t gonna stop and was gonna keep on going and going and going. And then my brain was like, Okay, we’ve had enough. We’re gonna stop you. And I had a stroke. Bill Gasiamis (23:21)Mm. Cassie (23:22)And they say that stress doesn’t directly cause strokes, like it contributes to it. But like I mentioned, like I’m pretty healthy. And I was I’m forty three now. I was only forty two. And that’s not normal. Like it’s usually age sixty five and older that have the strokes. Definitely Bill Gasiamis (23:42)Yeah. Cassie (23:42)wasn’t expecting it. Bill Gasiamis (23:44)What kind of a stroke was it? Cassie (23:46)It was an ischemic stroke. It was a right hemisphere stroke in the basal ganglia, which I didn’t know what they were. I learned about it after my stroke. Bill Gasiamis (23:55)And did they have Cassie (23:55)They apparently do a lot with like has to do with your motion and balance, but also emotional regulation, which that was a huge thing when I was recovering, like having to deal with emotions. You’d think as a therapist Bill Gasiamis (24:10)Just crying. Cassie (24:11)I would be good with it, but I’d prefer to deal with other people’s emotions, not my own. Bill Gasiamis (24:16)And you’re human as well, right? So yeah. Just because you Cassie (24:17)yeah, I forgot about that. Yes. That too. Bill Gasiamis (24:20)learnt about it doesn’t mean that you’re the epitome of the perfectly emotionally regulated human just because you learned about it or studied it. Cassie (24:28)Yeah, absolutely not. Bill Gasiamis (24:31)Yeah. and do they know what the underlying cause of the ischemic stroke was? Was there an underlying cause? Cassie (24:40)They still I have like a little heart thing in still. It’s they’re like, maybe it was AFib and I told my cardiologist I was like, it’s not, it’s stress. I know it was stress. And he was like, it might be AFib. We’re gonna still check for this. So it’s like it can stay in for up to four years. I don’t know when they’re gonna take it out. but so far no AFib, which kind of doesn’t mean that my theory is correct, but it seems more plausible that there was they can’t figure out Anything else? I probably drank too much. I was drinking the night of my stroke, but they said that didn’t cause it. Who knows? Combination of Bill Gasiamis (25:16)Hmm. What Cassie (25:18)alcohol and stress. Bill Gasiamis (25:20)Yeah. Or when you say you drink too much as in what are you doing, a bottle a day or just a couple of glasses or Cassie (25:28)So before my stroke I was probably drinking more than a bottle of wine a day. Bill Gasiamis (25:33)Okay. Yeah, that’s too much. Cassie (25:34)So that’s like four to five drinks. And for women, you shouldn’t have more than one drink of alcohol per day. Bill Gasiamis (25:43)Yeah, it is too much for any person really. Yeah. Cassie (25:46)It is. That was my way of coping with stress. Bill Gasiamis (25:51)Yeah, takes the edge off, right? Cassie (25:53)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (25:53)Yeah. It’s not uncommon. Like it’s so many I’m not hearing anything new here, you know, like it’s Cassie (26:00)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (26:00)we’re all the same pretty much everywhere. It doesn’t matter where you live. And everyone needs a way to cope. And sometimes the easiest thing is whatever’s at arm’s reach. And it could be for it could be a piece of bread. It could be a piece of you know, sweet cake or whatever, it could be alcohol. There’s so many ways that we Cope and it’s really useful, especially if you can cope. Yeah. If you Yeah. Yeah. The problem Cassie (26:25)It works so well it just kills you at the same time. Bill Gasiamis (26:30)is it’s short lived coping and it’s not learning or teaching you how to cope ongoing and without it. And that’s the the challenge, right? Is how do we cope with that? I used to smoke. And I would tell you still today that I loved smoking. It was one of the most amazing, most enjoyable things to do. It also came with alcohol and it came after a meal and it came with a coffee. Like all the things I loved to do happened together and smoking was one of them. And I’m sure, I’m certain it was, you know, the nicotine hit and all the things that you get from a cigarette, good, bad, were all contributing to my coping mechanism. But I also was creating the perfect storm for being unwell and Cassie (27:17)Right. Bill Gasiamis (27:18)stress at work, Not enough me time, always thinking about the job, the phone always being on, all that kind of stuff. And then it’s like, okay, well, what do I need? What do I need? What do you I know what I need? I need another coffee and a cigarette. Let me go and grab one. That’s gonna make things better. And it did, like just for that small amount of time. But not enough to be use supportive or not enough to be healthy. It was not healthy, but that’s okay. I learnt and I don’t do that anymore. I don’t smoke anymore. Although I love walking past people who are smoking. Cassie (27:57)That’s funny. I hate the smell of I think a lot of people do, the smell of cigarettes. Bill Gasiamis (28:01)Yeah. I love the smell of cigarettes. Not in the ashtray part, just in the air, kind of wafting around. You know, there was nothing better than being at a really smoky club or whatever. I don’t like the smell in my clothes the next day. But I’m old enough that when we were smok when we were going out to nightclubs and dancing and all that kind stuff, smoking was still allowed indoors in Australia. Whereas now it’s not. it was so cool. man. so how long did you end up in hospital for and how did you manage to deal with the deficits that it was causing before you went home? Hospitalization and Rehabilitation Journey Cassie (28:41)So I was in the like the actual hospital, like in the hospital on the stroke unit for a week. And then they moved me to inpatient rehab for a little over a week. So altogether it was a little over two weeks, so not that long. I was paralyzed for about a week, although it’s crazy, I barely remember it. you’d think like something huge like that you would remember, but I just remember the doctors coming in and being like, Okay pull on my hands, now push on my hands or do this, do that and like I just remember my left hand wasn’t working as well, but it didn’t it didn’t feel like being paralyzed, but I don’t guess I don’t know who would know what that feels like if you’ve never been paralyzed, or you wouldn’t Bill Gasiamis (29:23)Mm-hmm. Cassie (29:24)feel anything, I guess. Bill Gasiamis (29:25)Mm-hmm. Cassie (29:26)And I was able to walk, so my rehab wasn’t that like intensive. It was focusing on I had this weird like kind of like lean where I would like lean left and like veer off to the left. Like if there was nobody to direct me, I would have just like walked off into the walls. so two weeks and then for a month I did like outpatient OT and PT. But I also like I took a look at my drinking and I was like, I need to stop drinking. And so I went to treatment like a month after my stroke, or it was like six weeks after my stroke. So that interrupted my OT and PT. But two weeks to answer your question about two weeks in the hospital and in rehab, which was they were basically the same thing. I was in a bed, an alarmed bed, because I was a fall risk. Which was awful ’cause I’m super independent, so having that taken away from me was like I couldn’t I wasn’t even allowed to get up. I would get scolded like a naughty child when I did. It didn’t stop me from getting up, but I got some scoldings. The nurses I was not a favorite among the nurses, I suspect. Bill Gasiamis (30:38)Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they were looking up for you. Yeah. They were they were looking out for you but they needed to get the point across as much as possible. I I kinda get it, but yeah, it’s also not nice to be told you shouldn’t do something. but when you can’t do it and it’s a risk to your health, then maybe it’s maybe it’s all right to be told don’t do that in no uncertain terms. Cassie (31:13)They so they taught my partner how to like unarm the bed. And I have to give him credit here because I like begged him to teach me the trick to unarm it and he never did. Yeah. Which was I didn’t care for it at the time, but he realized that maybe I might hurt myself, so Bill Gasiamis (31:26)Ha ha ha. Cassie (31:35)didn’t let me have my way on that. Bill Gasiamis (31:38)I’m gonna have to interrupt us again, my dad’s calling. Cassie (31:41)Okay. Bill Gasiamis (31:44)I don’t like cancelling appointments when we’ve made a a appointment for a podcast. So anyhow I’ll get this Dissociation and Identity Post-Stroke Bill Gasiamis (32:03)to that. Bill Gasiamis (32:12)Is He’s just went in for a little procedure where they injected some cortisol into his back ’cause he’s got some pain. And they put him under so they need him to be picked up. And he’s getting picked up, but he just doesn’t know it and w now we’re going backwards and forwards between between us and the nurses, but I did tell him and he does know but he’s eighty two and he doesn’t listen. If he rings back I’ll just interrupt us again. I’m so sorry. Cassie (32:46)No, it’s fine. Bill Gasiamis (32:49)so Your time in hospital other than being scolded. How do you come to terms with what has happened? Do you come to terms with it? Are you thinking about what this means for you now? Cassie (33:06)Not once. It didn’t even cross my mind. My world like when I look back on it, like my world shrank just to like the hospital bed in the room that I was in. And it just that was the only thing that existed. I didn’t think about, well, how is this gonna impact me long term? Am I gonna be able to go back to work? Like they gave me they told me I couldn’t go back for four months. But I actually tried to go back to work. I was Bill Gasiamis (33:19)at work, Cassie (33:34)working overtime, I was also working at a different location, doing like some overnight shifts. And the day after my stroke I tried to go to work. I was going to just go and not tell anybody and then come back. But they found out my mom was there. She found out. She’s like, Cassie, you can’t you can’t go. You can’t work. You can’t even walk. And I was like, I mostly would just sit at a desk. It should be fine. I’m sure it will be fine. That was kind of my motto the entire time, like, it’s fine, it’s gonna be fine, even though it clearly, you know, wasn’t fine. Bill Gasiamis (34:09)just there was that stroke brain? N like normal Cassie wouldn’t do that. You would know not to do that normally, would wouldn’t you? Like somebody is unwell, that’s not what we do when we’re unwell. Or was it just Cassie (34:21)I don’t Bill Gasiamis (34:21)the stroke playing up on you? Cassie (34:24)So it’s both. Like I didn’t feel unwell for one thing. Like I felt or I thought that I was normal. I thought I was still myself then. But then with right brain stroke especially, there’s I forget the word for it, but you become overconfident in your abilities and you think that you can do things that you can’t do. And so Bill Gasiamis (34:47)Wow. Cassie (34:47)that was a part of it too. I do you know the word for that? Bill Gasiamis (34:51)I don’t. Cassie (34:52)There’s like a very specific word for it. It also happens to people with severe mental illness where they think that they’re okay when they’re not. But it’s specific to right brainstroke. And so I thought it was fine. And then also like me, I’m pretty stubborn and think Bill Gasiamis (35:06)Yeah. Cassie (35:13)I know better than doctors. So there was that too. Bill Gasiamis (35:20)I’m gonna check what it is. I wonder if I can ask Chat GPT what it is, w what is it when somebody’s overconfident after a brain injury or a stroke, right? Is that’s kind of what the search will be. Let’s see what Cassie (35:32)Probably starts with an A. Bill Gasiamis (35:36)wonder what Chat GPT’s got to say about it. Yeah. Cassie (35:39)But it’s being completely unaware of your Bill Gasiamis (35:44)Anosognosia. Anosognosia. It’s a Greek word by the sound of it. from my background. And it is the Cassie (35:45)That sounds familiar. Bill Gasiamis (36:00)Anosognosia is impaired awareness of one’s neurological deficits following brain injury or a stroke. A person may genuinely not recognize or may substantially underestimate. their problems with movement, cognition, communication, behavior, or other abilities. Does that sound like it was your thing? Yeah, wow. Cassie (36:19)That’s exactly what it was. And But then that kind of like followed me after my stroke. Like I was like, wait a minute, am I completely like disabled and I just have no idea? Like so that was difficult. That piece of it, like where I felt like I was doing okay. I mean I was walking and talking still, you know, after my stroke. Bill Gasiamis (36:37)Mm-hmm. See? So you have cognitive awareness of the deficit, but yet the deficit still plays out. This overconfidence in your ability still played out, but you’re still kind of have awareness of it somehow. Cassie (37:06)Yeah, but I don’t know like to this day, like I don’t know, maybe I was completely not functioning at all and I have a memory that I was, who knows. It’s really weird, it kinda messes with your head. Bill Gasiamis (37:18)Yeah. How we it is it’s so weird. I know. I I remember being in all s sort of weird out of brain spaces and experiences and trying to work out w is this actually happening or am I imagining this happening? Is this reality or is it a dream? Like what is it? had a lot of those moments and then people observing me doing that was the most interesting part ’cause then I had to explain to them what I Cassie (37:35)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (37:47)what I was ha happening to me and I was like I was unable to even you know verbalize that like how do I explain that to them when I don’t even know what’s going on. It was just really freaky. and then you ended up going home at some point and what was that like? What was the transition from rehab and care like when you ended up home? How do you manage that? Life After Stroke: Adjusting to New Realities Cassie (38:12)It was really underwhelming. Like I had to do training beforehand. They’re like, Okay, you have to learn how to get in and out of the shower and in and out of a car. So I had to do like training for that, which was silly because Well, like I said, I thought I was functioning fine. But I’ve never fallen once, not once, which I think says that maybe I was functioning to an extent. The physical disability was never really that big of an issue. It was more like the the cognitive stuff and then like the emotional piece. That was what was my big struggle. But yeah, they I had to they had to put me in a wheelchair to leave the hospital, even though I insisted I was fine. They were like, No, we don’t just let people get up and go, you have to do this. So they wheeled me out and my sister picked me up and took me home and that was it. And then I was home and I expected life to go back to normal, but it did not. Like that was probably I guess being home was like the wake up call when I was like, my life is gonna be different now. Very different. Bill Gasiamis (39:25)Yeah. Cybering. Cassie (39:28)Exactly. Bill Gasiamis (39:30)Hm. You weren’t working. Were you allowed to drive or go out and about were you up to that? Cassie (39:36)You know what? I was really, really, really tired for I’m still tired all the time, but like so I wasn’t like really up to doing anything. I wasn’t allowed to drive for six months, but I did. I got into an accident, I think, my first my first day behind the wheel. It was just a tiny little accident. I just tapped somebody’s bumper and they got very upset about it. They were overreacting, I think. Bill Gasiamis (40:07)People tend to do that with car. Cassie (40:09)They do. Bill Gasiamis (40:10)Yeah. I don’t know why. Cassie (40:12)Yeah, she was upset. Bill Gasiamis (40:14)you wouldn’t it how how we act in a car when we’re in the car, when somebody Cassie (40:21)Mm-hmm. Bill Gasiamis (40:22)does something minor on the road, we would never act outside of the car in the real world in public when somebody crossed our Cassie (40:29)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (40:30)path or bumped into us or whatever. It’s just strange what happens when people get in a car. Yeah. Cassie (40:34)wild. Same thing online, people act w in ways they never would in real life. Bill Gasiamis (40:40)Yeah, it’s a little bubble of false sort of bravado or security or something, I don’t know what, and people just change their behavior. I’ve become aware of that recently and I’ve made a massive effort to not be that way. And I did a lot of work around actually not reacting when I’m in the car to Cassie (41:00)That’s amazing. Bill Gasiamis (41:01)yeah, incidences that are so insignificant because every time you drive there is an insignificant incident and if you’re just freaking out about it all the time, all you’re doing is making yourself unwell. It’s just another negative Cassie (41:13)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (41:13)thing that you do, right? So I’ve made a concerted effort about a year ago to make sure that I do not react by yelling and screaming to people in a car when they’re just driving on the road. I’m doing exactly the same thing. I don’t know where I get off being the guy. who thinks that my driving is so much better that that I I am if within my rights to be aggressive or act out or yelling or screaming at the person in the other car who actually can’t hear me anyway and doesn’t even know what they did wrong. Cassie (41:56)That’s so one thing that like I could be a bit of a jerk before when driving. Not that anybody would know. I was just in my car yelling and cursing, but you know But since the stroke I’ve actually I have more patience because I’m much I’m slower and that’s just in like life in general, but also behind the wheel. I’m I’m much slower. And Bill Gasiamis (42:07)Yeah. Cassie (42:21)so then when somebody starts tailing me, I get super frustrated with it, but I’m like when I think somebody’s going too slow, now I’m like, Well, there’s probably a reason for that so I can chill and just drive slow. I probably need to anyway. So Bill Gasiamis (42:36)awareness, yeah. Like it’s like maybe they’re recovering from something, maybe they’re just more careful. Maybe they have a you know, more more kind of anxiousness about them and they want to make sure that they’re paying more attention, you know, it’s all all sorts of things going on. And judging people without having any idea was s so getting in the way of my just five minute trip down the road, you know, to pick up something. What’s the point of going for a drive and being angry for no reason? Like it’s ridiculous. Cassie (43:05)Yeah. The wild thing is is I had all these skills before my stroke. Like I could have I’m a therapist, you know. I understand these things. I empathize with people, but I would get so mad at other drivers. But now I I’m just like, somebody they’re probably like me. And that’s in not just in driving, in like all areas of my life. I’m more empathetic. I think I’m a better therapist in some ways. I’m not as sharp as I was before, but I think I’m kinder. Bill Gasiamis (43:40)You have more insight. Cassie (43:42)More insight, yes, for sure. Bill Gasiamis (43:43)more life experience. Cassie (43:47)Yeah. Exactly. Bill Gasiamis (43:50)Yeah. so did you kind of find a way back to work? Are you working again? Cassie (44:00)I’m working I’m working at a very different like paced job. I’m doing intake assessments now, so it’s Bill Gasiamis (44:08)manage to deal with the deficits that it was causing before you went home? Cassie (44:12)I get more like FaceTime, which is nice, but it’s also it’s not a very challenging job. And before it was the work was very challenging. So it’s different pace of life. But I’m back to work. I’m working full time. And then I see clients on the side and my and it’s not my practice, it’s a group practice, so private practice clients too. Bill Gasiamis (44:36)Sounds like it’s more alig aligned with the whole intention of becoming a counsellor, a therapist, like at the beginning. Cassie (44:42)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (44:44)Yeah. Less statistically based and more client focused. Cassie (44:49)Yeah. I do miss the population ’cause like I really liked working with the inmates. But Bill Gasiamis (44:55)Yeah. Cassie (44:56)I just I wouldn’t go back into that environment. Bill Gasiamis (45:00)Yeah. E especially when you’re you know, the people you’re reporting to are also maybe, you know, a bit difficult to handle as well or highly, you know, tense or whatever. They’re we’ve got to also understand like they’re living in a environment where they’re working in a jail as well and God knows Cassie (45:18)Yes. Bill Gasiamis (45:19)what they’re dealing with and putting up with as well and how they’re able to personally manage it. And if everyone’s kind of dysfunctional, you wanna not Cassie (45:27)Mm. Bill Gasiamis (45:28)be there, even though that’s where people are needed, you need to kind of do your time and get out. Cassie (45:35)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (45:36)’cause ongoing dysfunction just becomes traumatic for everybody who’s involved, even though you’re going there to do good work, you’re coming out and then you’re not well, you’re not healthy, and it leads to illness and what’s the point of that? your website is cassiejewell.com and there’s a couple of things on there that you talk about and promote and There’s a very cool photo of you on the home page. Like I love that photo. It’s Cassie (46:03)Hello, thanks. Bill Gasiamis (46:05)so cool. and it says Cassie Jewell is a counselor and an author exploring psychology of change, resilience, regret, and identity. Cassie (46:14)Mm-hmm. Bill Gasiamis (46:15)Change, resilience, regret, and identity. Huge. Cassie (46:18)That’s all from my stroke. Bill Gasiamis (46:20)Huge words. Okay. I was gonna ask you whether that may have been on there previously or whether that is the new thing that you’re interested in. Cassie (46:28)That is something I’ve definitely focused on more since the stroke, especially identity. because before I identified just completely like with my career, or more so with my job, not my career, but my job. But that I was just completely wrapped up in that. And now I’ve had to well, I went through I had another job when I first started back to work, that didn’t work out. It’s ’cause I’m not as competent as I used to be. It’s really hard. I’m still dealing with that. But when you measure your self-worth in the things that you do, like in your career, and then all of a sudden you don’t have your career anymore, who are you? I had to figure that out. And I like who I am now. I think Or I I don’t know if I’m the same person or if I’m a different person. It’s hard to gauge that. I think I it took me some time, but I think I finally just adjusted to who I am now and I’m choosing to like who I am now. I’m a Bill Gasiamis (47:37)Yeah. Cassie (47:37)different person, probably, but I’m the only you know, this brain is the only one I’ve got, so I might as well invest in it and like it. Don’t Bill Gasiamis (47:47)Yeah. Cassie (47:48)have any other choice. Bill Gasiamis (47:50)No. and yet i your your identity, like do you i if I was to ask you what it is or how would you like what how do you identify? Like how can do you have a elevator pitch? Can you say that to to me now? Cassie (48:10)I do not have an elevator pitch. I have no idea. I don’t know how to describe it. I just I know more what I’m not and I’m not driven by work. Like I value free time more in my personal life and my loved ones, my dogs. I don’t have kids, I have dogs. They’re my kids. Bill Gasiamis (48:30)Yeah. Yep. Cassie (48:34)and like I would be okay if I didn’t have my career. I would still know who I was without my career. Where before I didn’t, and so losing that was like losing everything. That’s why the stroke hit so hard is because I lost I lost my career and myself at the same time, almost my life, but it was more the losing of like my identity and so My new identity is part like having lost that I’m no longer that career woman that I was and then also who I am since the stroke. So Bill Gasiamis (49:11)Mm-hmm. When I was younger, I didn’t have an opportunity to work out my identity. I just got stuck into the tasks that I needed to do. Cassie (49:21)Mm-hmm. Bill Gasiamis (49:21)To pay the bills, to feed the kids, to put through school, to pay the mortgage, to do all that stuff. And it was never a conversation like, how do I who am I, who do I identify as? Or if somebody asked me the question, I wouldn’t even know what it meant. Like they’d what are you talking about? Like, I just go to work and I do all these things. You know, but beyond what you do, who are you? That’s such a bizarre thing to have to contemplate. I think that’s what I found difficult about it as well, was that not only did I lose all those things that I did who I thought I was, I actually didn’t have the vocabulary or the insight about the topic or anything. I had nothing. And I’m starting from completely scratch. And that would have been the hardest question in the world for somebody to ask. Now I stumbled into identity loss and all that kind of stuff just by interviewing people and realizing that other people are going through that and they had a word for it. But before that, if I if I was asked, I wouldn’t have a clue how to begin a conversation with that. I wouldn’t be able to get off telling somebody that I was a business owner and I was a dad and it was all about other people. Cassie (50:35)Do you feel like did it take you a long time to like yourself, like your new self after the stroke? How Stroke Forced Me to Discover Who I Really Am Bill Gasiamis (50:42)A a few years, yeah. I think I realized Cassie (50:44)Few years. Bill Gasiamis (50:45)that so my whole thing started in twenty twelve and then out I was at home out of surgery in twenty in December twenty fourteen. And then I was at home alone from late December twenty fourteen for the first five or six months of the following year, twenty fifteen. Twenty fifteen, around twenty fifteen is when I started the podcast, but there was only a few episodes. And they were intermittent and I wasn’t well. I had fatigue. I was dealing with and all the things. And then by around early 2016, maybe middle of the year, something like that, would have been the first time when I said, I think stroke was the best thing that happened to me. And and it you know what why I said that. It wasn’t because I I loved the experience of being unwell, nearly dying, brain surgery, all of that. It’s because I realized that I had grown as a person. And that my identity had shifted from somebody who was caught up in all the labels and all of the what is it like all of the barriers that I put up in between, you know, from in my own way that I created in my own mind about myself. And then I realized I was on a podcast interview and I said that with the the person who I was interviewing. I think stroke’s the best thing that happened to me, and they said the same thing back. And then it’s like, wow, how did you get here? And I realized how I got there was I how I was speaking on a stage, sharing information about stroke awareness. I was meeting stroke survivors who I really got along with and we understood each other and we were able to appreciate what what both of us had been through. I felt understood for the first time. you know, so I was doing all these things that were different that were actually bringing a different kind of joy into my life. Cassie (52:36)Yeah, fulfillment meaning. Bill Gasiamis (52:37)Yeah. Purpose, meaning. And I never knew those things existed before that. I didn’t know that my purpose and meaning needed to be refined and it shouldn’t have been about making as much money as possible as quickly as possible. Because apparently my kids needed the new pair of sneakers or, you know, the new console or whatever it was that they needed. And I thought I should work harder to make possible for them. So yeah, it was Cassie (53:08)I think it kind Bill Gasiamis (53:08)Unbelievable. Cassie (53:09)of I’m thinking about it now, like it strips away everything else so you have nothing left but yourself and you have to take a look at yourself and then that’s when you can really decide who am I and am I gonna choose to like this person? And you can also choose what your new identity is gonna be. Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (53:28)That’s the best part about it. Choice. I never had that before. Well, I did, but I didn’t think I did. Cassie (53:35)Right. Bill Gasiamis (53:36)I did what my parents told me to do. I did what other people told me to do. I never did what I wanted to do. I was always doing stuff that I’d been trained my entire life to do. You know, you go to school, d do X amount of hours Monday to Friday for your primary years and then your secondary years doing a certain amount of hours. 13 years later, you’re spat out. And it’s like, okay, what else do you guys want me to do? Okay, I’ll just do that. And I envy Maybe envy’s not the word ’cause it’s a little bit harsh, but I I kind of I maybe it is envy and jealousy. Like of people who were twenty or eighteen or nineteen and knew what they wanted to do somehow. And they just went and did it. Now I know they’ve got their own issues and they’re probably struggling in other ways. Yeah. Maybe maybe. Cassie (54:20)They probably didn’t know. I don’t think anybody does. I think you have to have something like a stroke happen to you to really know what you want and to be able to have this different perspective on life. So I get how like it can be it can be the worst thing that’s happened to you and the best thing that’s happened to you at the same time because it’s not about the stroke. It’s about okay, what am I gonna choose to do now? And you can do anything. Bill Gasiamis (54:48)Yeah. And that was Cassie (54:49)And that’s amazing. Bill Gasiamis (54:51)such a gift. Cassie (54:52)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (54:53)And it came from this Crappy path, like whatever. Like such a massive, difficult thing. I have a couple of people who I coach through stroke recovery and whatever. Like I I’m not not not in a doctor way, just like we talk about things that they perhaps don’t get to talk about with other people who are not stroke survivors, right? And one of the things that really happened to me recently was the person who I’m coaching at the moment just came on on board, signed up, and their first session. The person’s still in rehab. And they’re very emotional and it’s very challenging and very difficult. And it’s so fresh between having gone from their regular life to what their life looks like now. Cassie (55:37)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (55:38)And that was in my mind a little bit triggering in that, I had forgotten that feeling. Now I remember what that was like. And then it’s trying to keep somebody in a space of remain calm, you know, be What Bruce Lee used to say, you know, be the boat on the wave, you know, like just go with the flow and all that kind of stuff. And it’s the time to practice all those things, but it’s also the most difficult time to practice all those things because you’ve had a stroke and your brain is not working optimally and you know, there’s yeah. Cassie (56:12)It’s so traumatic and like it’s great too. Bill Gasiamis (56:15)It’s traumatic, it’s grief, it’s identity, it’s loss, it’s everything all together, all in one lump sum. And then I&#

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Ever thought about becoming a referee ? well this book reveals what it s really like from an author who decided the best way to find out what it was really like was to become one which he did,he also got access to elite level referees to talk to them about what life is like not only on the pitch but off it as wellEvery football fan knows the feeling. A whistle goes, an arm points, and half the stadium erupts. The other half feels robbed. Within seconds, the referee has become the story.William Ralston's The Impossible Job asks a sharper question than the usual post-match argument: what if most of us are watching officials with confidence, but without real understanding?This is a book about referees, but it is also about pressure, judgement, fear, authority, technology, and the strange way football turns human decisions into public trials. Ralston follows officials from grassroots matches to the elite game, including access around UEFA, FIFA, and PGMO circles, and builds a portrait of a role most people see every week but rarely understand.

In a shocking revelation, a recent story about the Gaylord Resort in Colorado has left many wondering how tax subsidies got approved in the first place. The resort, which has been collecting millions of dollars in tax money, was voted on by a single ballot cast by a single company - the one that owned the land the hotel would sit on. This raises questions about the fairness of the system and the lack of transparency in how tax money is being used.This episode delves into the world of transportation in Colorado, where a new train project, the Colorado Connector, is being proposed. The project promises to bring a high-speed train down the Front Range, but at a cost of $4.7 billion. The speaker questions whether this project is a pipe dream, citing the state's history of failed transportation projects and the lack of transparency in how tax money is being used.The episode also explores the story of a family in Longmont who voted for a train project in 2004, only to be left waiting for 21 years with no train in sight. The speaker argues that this is a classic case of "build it and they will come," where the state promises a project but fails to deliver. He also points out that the train project is not just about building a new train, but about keeping the existing train moving and providing a subsidy forever.If you're tired of being promised a train that never seems to materialize, tune in to this episode to hear the speaker's take on the Colorado Connector and the state's history of failed transportation projects. He'll also share a shocking story about how tax subsidies got approved for the Gaylord Resort, and what it means for the future of transportation in Colorado.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Rush Hour with Maroon and Hindy are live from the Chipping Norton Hotel thanks to McDonalds! Marcelo Montoya pops in for a chat, Maroon is fighting with his wife, so Hindy unpacks that, and Hindy tells us a story from his playing daysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Upsets, comebacks, and a new way to evaluate the best-of-the-best in Nebraska high school football.Mike Sautter, Jacob Padilla, and Austin Jacobsen break down the top storylines, new Power Ratings system, and much more on the latest NebPreps Postgame. Follow Hurrdat Sports on social:Twitter: http://twitter.com/hurrdatsports Instagram: http://instagram.com/hurrdatsports Tiktok: http://tiktok.com/hurrdatsports Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HurrdatSportsHurrdat Sports is a digital production platform dedicated to the new wave of sports media. From podcasting to video interviews along with live events and entertainment, we're here to change how you consume sports. Find us online at Hurrdatsports.com#NebPreps #HighSchoolFootball #Nebraska #NebraskaFootball #Football #NebraskaHighSchoolFootball #Omaha #lincolnSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Show NotesThe inconsistencies between the two NT narratives of Judas Iscariott's death has long been a ‘poster child' of bible contradictions.  We are prompted to cover it by an excellent video recently released by CJ Cornthwaite who suggests the actual reasons for the differences between the narratives.  We discuss CJ's work and try to complement it by digging deeper into: the sport of harmonisation, the third account of the death given by Papias, the OT allusions and a surprising feature of the bible translations.  Links:The video recently released by CJ Cornthwaitehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy6GctdghpQ The article by Rendel Harris on the failure of harmonization:https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.1086/477430 A link for the Papias text:https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/tag/judas/ The legend of Ahiquar and the death of Nadan:https://sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe264.htm Audrey Conrad on the OT allusions, bible refs: Ps. 41:9, John 13:18 & 2Samuel 17:23in "The Fate of Judas" (Toronto Journal of Theology [7] 1992) How to look at the Acts version of the death in all English translations:https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Acts%201%3A18(search in the page for ‘hang') Doubts Aloud Links:Please keep giving feedback and ask questions using:  doubtsaloud@gmail.com  

For this episode of Beat of the Month we take a look at the rest of the year and what games are coming out that deserve the hype game treatment! Of course, it's all bullshit because Brian wasn't on the episode. These fools talk about GTA 6 like it's a gift sent from heaven and yet as they discuss, none of them have even played any of the games since GTA 3, and they didn't even play that game much. Then they somehow leave out the biggest game of the year, Ocarina of Time Remake, and don't even mention it. Unbelievable. They do happen to get some things right with discussion about Silent Hill Townfall that they give about 30 seconds to and then the new Castlevania game which should be pretty good. Wolverine getting a bit too much hype train treatment but as you all know hype train gonna do what it does best. No one reads this bullshit anyway so I can say whatever I want here. Spiral thinks he's hot shit in Fantasy Draft with Onimusha and some other bullshit getting good scores, but Ocarina of Time and Order of the Sinking Star (another game they omitted from talking about) are going to turn things around really quick.Anyway, grab your headphones and join this damn shit show for the next hour and some odd minutes. Ding dang, Like and Subscribe

ON TODAY'S PROGRAM... ZACK COULD BEAT TOTO, AT HIS OWN GAME... IS NORRIS THE "A" TEAM AND, OSCAR THE "B" TEAM... CARLOS SAINZ...AS HE SIGNS ANOTHER CONTRACT WITH WILLIAMS HE KNOWS HIS CHAMPIONSHIP HOPES ARE GONE...AND FERNANDO SAYS...HONDA MAKING PROGRESS! I'M NOT GONA MISS IT! THIS WEEK'S NASIR HAMEED CORNER ANOTHER MOMENT IN F1 HISTORY...THE 2014 SEASON AND, THE CHAOS BETWEEN TWO DRIVERS! ...INTERVIEW WITH JOS AND MAX VERSTAPPEN DURING HIS SHORT FORMULA 3 SEASON! ANOTHER NASIR CLASSIC! OUR BONUS: TECH TALK WITH TIM....THE FRICS SYSTEM Front to Rear Inter-Connected Suspension. High Schooler Garcia Drives to First Career Win in Milwaukee  WEST ALLIS, Wis. (Sunday, Aug. 30, 2026) – Don't tell the principal, but Max Garcia may have earned the right to skip school Monday after his stirring first career INDY NXT by Firestone victory Sunday at the Milwaukee Mile. Series rookie Garcia earned his first win in his 15th career start in the INDYCAR development series, driving his No. 12 Abel Motorsports machine under the checkered flag .9430 of a second ahead of the No. 68 Cusick Morgan Motorsports car of JM Correa, who also earned a career-best finish. SEE: Race Results It's still uncertain whether Garcia, 17, will be in homeroom Monday morning at Christopher Columbus High School in Miami, where he just started his senior year. “Unbelievable,” Garcia said. “It's been such a tough year for all of us at Abel. We knew we had a good oval package. We knew we set the car up more for the race, and we knew in practice we could move through cars. It was all about timing it right and then getting through everyone. “I'm trying to convince my mom not to let me go to school. Surely, this is something to celebrate. A day off would be nice, right?” Rookie Jack Beeton continued his strong second half of the season by finishing third in the No. 45 HMD Motorsports machine, earning his third podium result in the last five races. Andretti Global's Max Taylor finished fourth in the No. 28 Susan G. Komen entry, while Nikita Johnson rounded out the top five in the No. 21 Cape Motorsports Powered by ECR car and took the lead in a sizzling championship fight with two races remaining. Johnson drove from 15th at the start to earn his eighth top-five finish of the season. He leads Enzo Fittipaldi by three points and third-place Tymek Kucharczyk by 29 entering the season-ending Grand Prix of Monterey doubleheader Sept. 5-6 at WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca. It's tied for the fifth-closest race margin between the top two drivers with two races to go in series history. “I just kept my head down, pushed really hard and found lines that other people didn't find until about halfway through,” Johnson said. “I think that really helps, just playing around and trying different lines out when everybody was just stuck in one line. It was a really good points day for us.” Fittipaldi finished seventh in the No. 67 HMD Motorsports car, while Kucharczyk placed 12th in the No. 71 HMD Motorsports machine. Garcia started ninth but steadily worked his way through the field on the 1.015-mile oval. He passed Beeton for second on Lap 35 and pulled to within one second of leader and pole sitter Josh Pierson of Andretti Global, who had led by more than two seconds in the early going of the 90-lap race. Under pressure from Garcia, Pierson's quest for his first career victory unraveled on Lap 54 when he spun in the No. 29 Starchive Andretti car in Turn 2 while leading and hit the tire barrier inside that corner to end his race. Pierson led every lap to that point. Garcia inherited the lead and never surrendered it despite four restarts in the last 37 laps after the race went caution-free for the first 53 laps. Abel Motorsports driver Garcia was threatened only once on one of those restarts. Beeton looked under Garcia in Turn 1 on Lap 83 but couldn't complete the pass. On the next and final restart on Lap 86, Garcia left no doubt by getting a good jump and pulling away easily. Beeton and Correa raced side by side for second on that restart, allowing Garcia even more time and space out front. Correa eventually prevailed in that duel, one of 208 on-track passes, a track record for INDY NXT at Milwaukee. New heights at Rallye Mont-Blanc Morzine! After an extended summer break following the cancellation of Rallye Rouergue Rodez Aveyron Occitanie, the Clio Trophy France Asphalte resumes next week at Rallye Mont-Blanc Morzine. At this iconic French Rally Championship event, the return to action will be intense, with 39 crews ready to give it their all to reach the midseason mark in the lead and enter the home stretch in a strong position. Now in its seventh season with the fifth-generation Renault Clio, the Clio Trophy France Asphalte continues to prove its appeal, with a record 39 Clio Rally5 cars set to line up at Morzine this year. The Alpine mountains offer a magnificent backdrop for the competitors, who are eager to return to competition for the first time since mid-June. Leader in the general classification following his first victory in the Vosges, Paul Dachicourt (Fun Meca Sport) will look to consolidate his advantage in Morzine. Also leading the Junior category, where an official drive is up for grabs, the Pas-de-Calais native will target another victory at a rally that went his way last year, when he posted one of his best results despite a puncture on the opening special stage. His main rivals, however, are determined to prevent him from pulling away. Winner of the opening round at Le Touquet, Maxence Potard (Gilbert Compétition) will rely on his experience in the Alps to bounce back after his crash in the Vosges. The member of the FFSA's Collectif France Rallye isn't the only one with this objective, as Romain Brun will attempt to return to the sharp end of the order after a difficult weekend in the Vosges. Several competitors will try to capitalise on their knowledge of the roads to close the gap to the leaders. Having secured four podium finishes with Clio Rally5 at Morzine since 2020, Romain Fostier (David Auto Compétition) is a serious contender for victory in this demanding event. He will also seek to increase his lead over his rivals in the Gentlemen class: Pascal Bérard, Jacques Bourrat, Franck Giraud (Lycée Roger Claustre) and Michaël Durigon, who returns to the Clio Trophy France Asphalte for his 22nd start in the event. Jérôme Janny (David Auto Compétition) will equally rely on his experience to build on his strong start to the season, as will Yohan Roumieux (JLA Rally), who finished in the top ten last year, and Maxime Chagot (LCS Location), a two-time class winner at Morzine. Fabien Combe, who has finished 10th twice this year, and Christophe Truchet, 2025 Clio Full Challenge winner, will be outsiders to watch in their Rallye Mont-Blanc Morzine debut. Behind the trio of Paul Dachicourt, Maxence Potard and Romain Brun, other Junior drivers have high hopes. Following his first podium finish in the Vosges, Clément Didier (JLA Rally) will look to build on that form in the Alps, where Alex Florenson (PH Sport), who finished fifth a year ago, will target a trip to the podium next Saturday. Also worth keeping an eye on are Thomas Santiago (LCS Location), Louis Gass (PH Sport), Néo Rivallant (Fun Meca Sport), Oliver Sørensen, Thomas Van Outryve (LCS Location) and Maxence Girard (CHL Sport Auto), all in search of valuable points. Meanwhile, Tom Le Jossec (Rageau Sport Location) and Alexis Poso (Salvi Compétition) will aim to stay in contention on their Mont-Blanc debut with Clio Rally5. Back in action after his retirement at Le Touquet, Loan Guibal (Salvi Compétition) wants to turn his obvious speed into stage wins and a strong result in a rally he is discovering for the first time, just like Léo Véricel, Louis Bottin (PH Sport) and Alfred Sablonnière. Clémentine Benoit (Sarrazin Motorsport) will defend her lead in the women's category and face Lilou Boulangé (Gazou Compétition), a rookie this season behind the wheel after co-driving for her father Arnaud in 2025. Nicolas Paviet-Roche and Mathieu Duclos will make their first appearance of the year in familiar surroundings. Killian Marry will also return to the service park to tackle Alpine special stages for the first time – stages that several newcomers know well, notably William Gagnière, Paul Missillier and Vincent Chagot, Maxime's brother. Lastly, Grégory Scotto La Chianca will make his Clio Trophy France Asphalte debut, as will Robin Duarte, Arthur Guillaume and Tanguy Rubin-Delanchy, who have all cut their teeth with Clio Rally5 in the French Rally Cup. The 78th Rallye Mont-Blanc Morzine will feature 12 timed sectors covering a total of 196.04 kilometres over a 493.87 km route. On Friday, the action gets underway on the Montriond-le-Lac – Avoriaz stage, followed by two loops comprising Bonneville – Glières Val de Borne and Les Clefs – La Clusaz, then a single run on the Morzine – Montriond-le-Lac stage. On Saturday, the crews will tackle Morillon – Samoëns, Samoëns – Morzine and La Côte d'Arbroz – Taninges three times. The final ten special stages will each award up to five “Jean Ragnotti Performer” points to the five fastest drivers, in addition to the standard finishing points. Ten Clio Rally3s, six Clio Rally4s and nine Clio Rally5s outside the trophy will also be at the start of the event.

They removed Spencer Pratt's video — but I have it.Spencer Pratt unleashed a fiery new video taking aim at what he sees happening across social media, American culture, political discourse and the disturbing normalization and glorification of violence online.The former 2026 Los Angeles mayoral candidate, who became an outspoken critic of California leadership after losing his Pacific Palisades home in the devastating wildfires, isn't holding back.And now the video has become a story of its own.In this video, we're going to watch what Spencer Pratt said, examine why his message is generating such a strong reaction, discuss the culture he is criticizing, and ask a much bigger question:Have social media and politics pushed American culture past a breaking point?Whatever you think of Spencer Pratt politically, listen to the argument for yourself and make up your own mind.

As a teenager in Milwaukee, Art Rapkin became a hustler, karate champion and a fake Bob Dylan. Then he started smuggling cocaine, before ending up in a Mexican prison, where he was tortured, before working with he FBI and DEA.  Read Poison for Rats by Arthur Rapkin and Alec Banks Chameleon is a production of Campside Media and Audiochuck. Follow Chameleon on Instagram @chameleonpod Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In December 2022, the dismembered remains of an unidentified woman were discovered by hunters in a remote area of Georgia. It would take five months and the help of genetic genealogy to finally give her a name, 40-year-old Mindi Kassotis. Mindi's husband Nicholas was arrested for her murder. But his explanation for what had happened would lead to one of the most bizarre murder trials imaginable, involving false identities, a life on the run, and a mysterious man with alleged ties to the FBI.This episode is sponsored by:Ladder: If you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit/TCKR and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join.Wayfair: Join Wayfair Rewards today to get 5% back on every purchase and start saving on your next home upgrade. Head to wayfair.com. Fabletics: Shop now at fabletics.com/TCKR to get 70-80% off everything when you sign up as a new VIP.Check out my foundation: Higher Hope Foundation: https://www.higherhope.org/Watch my documentaries:530 Days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUWkmOjNLkApartment 801: https://bit.ly/2RJ9XXr True Crime with Kendall Rae podcast:Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3rks84oSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3jC66prShop my Merch! https://kendallrae.shopCheck out my other podcasts:Mile Higher (True Crime) @milehigherpodYouTube: https://bit.ly/2ROzJcwInstagram: http://instagram.com/milehigherpodThe Sesh (Current events, a little true crime, pop culture, and commentary) https://bit.ly/3Mtoz4X @the_seshpodcastInstagram: https://bit.ly/3a9t6Xr*Follow My Social!* @KendallRaeOnytInstagram: http://instagram.com/kendallraeonytFacebook: https://bit.ly/3kar4NKTrue Crime TikTok: https://bit.ly/3VDbc77Personal TikTok: https://bit.ly/41hmRKgREQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://zfrmz.com/yg9cuiWjUe2QY3hSC2V0Form for people directly related/close to the victim: https://zfrmz.com/HGu2hZso42aHxARt1i67Join my discord to chat with other viewers about this video, it's free! https://discord.com/invite/an4stY9BCNC O N T A C T:For Business Inquiries - kendallrae@night.coSend me mail: Kendall Rae 8547 E Arapahoe Rd Ste J #233 Greenwood Village, CO 80112

Throughout a summer of unexpected experiences, God showed us that He is good all the time. A Job-like season- that was my summer. I am sharing it because it is a perfect example of how God is good all the time. His character is definitive. He never leaves us or forsakes us. At the end of 2025, I chose the word trust for 2026. This summer, God showed me, through God winks, that trust in him is imperative to live this life. He gave me constant opportunities to build that trust and lean into it. I am finally catching my breath. It has been wild, an absolutely emotional summer. The Summer Began With a Farmhouse Dream And then a health crisis for our son The day after we closed on the farmhouse, we were set to fly to Greece for my daughter's graduation gift. The night before, at 8 p.m., we were at the farmhouse teaching friends how to care for the three sheep we inherited with the house. My husband's phone rang. It was my son's fiancée's father. He said our son was on his way to the hospital by ambulance. That was all he knew. Emergency Surgery Showed God's Hand in the Chaos The waiting game. Confident they are meant for each other. Sudden Grief Met Unmistakable God Winks Almost a month to the day after our son's surgery, my niece called me at 4 a.m. My brother-in-law had chest pain, fell, and had no pulse. For the next hour, I prayed the rosary, and my husband and I lay awake praying. At 5 a.m., we got the call that despite the efforts of medical staff, he did not survive. Still hard to handle - One thing she said over and over is "how do people do this without faith?" A Violin in the Rain: An Unforgettable God Wink Leaving our home of twenty-six years brought a new set of emotions After returning from the funeral in Illinois, it was time to pack up the house and get our daughter ready for college. Due to the unexpected events of the summer, she had to do a lot of her packing herself. Not only packing for college, but also packing up her childhood bedroom. It was an emotional week. Plans Changed The move has always been an underlying source of emotions since we closed on the farmhouse in June. We thought we had planned precisely so that we could move into the carriage house during renovations of the main house. But you know what they say about making plans - man makes plans, and God laughs. Empty Nester And now, the empty nest phase of our lives begins. I was not prepared for how emotional I would be leaving my daughter 14 hours away. No one could have prepared me for going from seeing two of my kids (the third lives and works in the DC metro area) every day to seeing none of them. I miss them fiercely. But I am also thrilled that they have these opportunities to grow and spread their wings, and I trust that God will guide and protect them on their new journeys. Scripture That Carried Us Through the Unexpected Several Bible verses carried me through the summer. The first I would like to share is 2 Timothy 1:7, which says God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but power, love, and self-control. Philippians 3:13-14 reminds me to stop dwelling on the past and press on toward what is ahead. Jeremiah 29:11 says God's plans are for our welfare, not to harm us, but to give us hope and a future. Isaiah 41:10 says not to fear, because God is with us and will strengthen us. God Is Good All the Time — Even When Life Is Hard Read the full show notes.

When Ellie Green left her house on the night of June 19, 2019, she thought she and her mother would continue their conversation the following day. However, Ellie says that she was shocked to discover that, just four days later, her father had her mother committed to a psychiatric hospital and she wouldn't be allowed to see her. She was even more shocked when, a month later, she says that she was told that her mother had died from a stroke while in the hospital. Devastated by her mother's death, Ellie wanted an explanation of how someone so young could suddenly die, but each question was met with vague and confusion answers. This was just the beginning of the mystery surrounding her mother's disappearance. If anyone has any information about Angela Green's disappearance, investigators urge them to call the TIPS Hotline at 816-474-TIPS. Information can also be sent to Steve Ridge directly at (319) 573-0657 or steveridge40@gmail.com. References Adler, Eric. 2023. "$25k reward offered for information on missing woman." Kansas City Star, March 4: 1. —. 2020. "'Dateline NBC' to explore case of missing Johnson County mom." Kansas City Star, October 29: 4. —. 2020. "Teen seeks truth of mom's mysterious disappearance." Kansas City Star, July 26: 1. —. 2022. "Three-year search from missing Prairie Village woman heats up." Kansas City Star, May 4: 10. 2026. People Magazine Investigates. Directed by Bruno Bahunek. Honeycutt, Sherae. 2020. Daughter of missing Prairie Village woman aching for answers as disappearance surpasses a year. February 26. Accessed August 18, 2026. https://fox4kc.com/news/exclusive-daughter-of-missing-prairie-village-woman-aching-for-answers-as-disappearance-surpasses-a-year/. —. 2020. Recorded phone calls involving missing Prairie Village woman's case raise more questions. October 29. Accessed August 19, 2026. https://fox4kc.com/news/recorded-phone-calls-involving-missing-prairie-village-womans-case-raise-more-questions/. Pelisek, Christine. 2026. A Mom Went Missing in 2019 After Arguing with Daughter. Her Husband Stopped Talking to Investigators a Long Time Ago. February 21. Accessed August 21, 2026. https://people.com/mom-vanished-2019-angela-green-daughter-wants-answers-11911133. Shriner, Zoe, and Betsy Weber. 2024. Five years since Prairie Village mom Angela Green disappeared without a trace. September 11. Accessed August 18, 2026. https://www.kctv5.com/2024/09/12/kc-unsolved-five-years-since-prairie-village-mom-angela-green-disappeared-without-trace/. Webster, Betsy. 2026. Private investigator claims new lead on Prairie Village mom's disappearance, police not yet informed. March 2. Accessed August 18, 2026. https://www.kctv5.com/2026/03/03/private-investigator-claims-new-lead-prairie-village-moms-disappearance-police-not-yet-informed/. Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

How to Improve EVERY Aspect of Your Life: An Interview with J.R. Briggs (Episode 297)   Proverbs 11:24 (MSG) The world of the generous gets larger and larger; the world of the stingy gets smaller and smaller.   *Transcription Below*   J.R. Briggs (DMin) possesses four passions: following Jesus, equipping and investing in hungry kingdom leaders, growing fruit on other people's trees, and creating good kingdom mischief. In short, his calling is to partner with people who are called to follow Jesus while they lead others.   In 2011 he started Kairos Partnerships, an organization committed to help leaders overcome their unique leadership challenges through leadership coaching, consulting, speaking, and writing.   For more than 15 years, J.R. served in pastoral roles in mega-churches, church plants and house church networks. Since starting Kairos Partnerships, he has served and invested in ministry leaders in over 40 denominations throughout North America. In addition to ministry leaders, he has invested in a wide variety of leaders, including business owners, college presidents, military leaders, Division 1 basketball coaches, and non-profit directors.   He serves as a guest instructor in the Master of Arts in Spiritual Formation program at Friends University and the Master of Arts in Leadership program at Taylor University. He has lectured, taught and spoken at over a dozen colleges, universities, and seminaries around the U.S.   He also serves as the Director of Leadership & Congregational Formation for The Ecclesia Network and as a National Trainer & Strategist for Fresh Expressions U.S.   In addition to writing several books on a wide variety of topics, he has also published articles in Christianity Today, Huffington Post, Preaching Today, American Bible Society, N.T. Wright Online, Missio Alliance, and Relevant Magazine.   He hosts the Resilient Leaders podcast.   J.R. and his wife Megan have two sons and live in the greater Philadelphia area. J.R.'s Website J.R.'s Book   Thank You to Our Sponsor: Leman Property Management   Questions and Topics We Cover: Can you contrast Jesus' teaching with field trips to the way we structure a typical Sunday morning in America?  Will you also share how you arrived at asking yourself two questions that have opened numerous doors for you? Once we put this into practice for ourselves, how can we begin to cultivate it in our children as well?   Other Savvy Sauce Episode Mentioned: 219. Training Our Children in Biblical Financial Stewardship with Matt Bell   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:09)   Laura Dugger: (0:12 - 1:44) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here.   Leman Property Management Company has the apartment you will be able to call home, with over 1,700 apartment units available in Central Illinois. Visit them today at lemanproperties.com or connect with them on Facebook.   J.R. Briggs is one of the most intriguing humans I've encountered, and it's hard to sum up his bio, as he's had so many experiences in his past through various pastoral roles, and then he became the founder of Kairos Partnerships, where he invests in leaders. He's also a podcast host, in addition to his work as an author. His most recent book is The Art of Asking Better Questions, and it's summed up in the intro, where he writes, "I have a bone-deep conviction that all of us need to ask more questions and better questions. Doing so can change your life and the lives of those around you." So now we get to actually learn how to make this happen with my guest, Reverend Dr. J.R. Briggs.   Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, J.R.   J.R. Briggs: (1:44 - 1:45) Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to this, Laura.   Laura Dugger: (1:46 - 2:00) Well, I'd love to go back and first hear a little bit more of your origin story. So, do you attribute your love of questions and your skill for asking great questions more to nature or nurture?   J.R. Briggs: (2:01 - 5:04) That's a fantastic question. No one has ever asked me that, Laura. So, right off the bat, well done. I love good questions like this. I think it's a little bit of both, and I'm not just wimping out on that answer. Here's what I mean.   I grew up in a wonderful home, still great friends with both my parents, and my parents, especially my dad, they were great question askers, and I saw them model this really well in the home. And I think in previous generations, it was, you know, kids are to be seen but not heard. That was not how my parents operated. They very much said, "You know what, we want to know what you think." And so, dinner times were great. Even hearing the way, especially my father would ask questions of people in the lobby at church or our neighbors, or we'd be at some party, and the way he would ask questions, I would just listen and say, "Wow, this is fascinating, the kind of conversations that are happening because of this."   So, modeled really well, but also observed a lot, and more is caught than taught. And I observed my parents doing this really well. And I thought, these are really fun conversations to just eavesdrop in on as a kid. And then also, I began to notice that there were people that were really fun and lived inspiring lives, and they asked great questions. And I noticed the people that had, that lived really small, uninspiring lives, I realized they weren't asking very many questions. And I began to say, "Well, which kind of person do I want to be? I kind of want to be in the first group. Well, what's the difference? These people are asking questions, regular questions, quality questions." And I thought, "Ooh, I need to pay attention to this and actually lean in to do this more."   So, I often learned how to do it too. So, there was the nature piece, the nurture piece, or the nurture, the nature piece there, the nurture piece, I did study. I'm kind of a nerd. And so, I would watch people who ask great questions and say, "Why was that a good question? What did they do? Why did they ask it that way? How did they know to ask that question as opposed to something else?" And so that was really helpful.   But then I began to notice as I read my Bible, I got a red-letter edition of my Bible and began to notice how many red question marks there were. And I began to take a pen and circle all of the red questions, question marks that Jesus asked. And I thought, "Wow, the way the truth and the life, who had all the answers, yet he asked a ton of questions." So that sent me on a deep dive that eventually I studied. And my doctorate, my dissertation for my doctorate was on learning to equip leaders to ask better questions in the way of Jesus. And so, using him as that model. So, there's a very long answer, Laura, to a very short question, is it nature or nurture? I really believe it's both. And I hope I can continue to learn in my own life until my last breath to how to be a better question asker, because it's that powerful.   Laura Dugger: (5:04 - 5:57) Mm-hmm. I agree with that. And I love the humility in that response. Also, as you share it, it reminds me of a scripture from Proverbs 11:24, the Message version, which I believe previous guest Matt Bell had shared this as it relates to finances. But J.R., I hear it through your lifestyle of generosity with questions. And the verse says, "The world of the generous gets larger and larger. The world of the stingy gets smaller and smaller." So, I love how you illustrated that. But you're also the first person that I heard articulate this beauty of asking questions for connection rather than just for information. So, can you explain more of why questions are such a generous gift and an offering of hospitality?   J.R. Briggs: (5:58 - 8:36) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, one of the things that really hit me, I touched on this earlier, that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, the second member of the Trinity, who knows everything. Why would he ask so many questions? Well, he also said, "I only do what I see my Father doing." What did he see his Father doing? If you look in the Old Testament, God asks a ton of questions too. So, I said, "Wait a second. Okay. The all-knowing, all-powerful God of the universe, why does God ask so many questions when he already knows the answer?" And that drove me to say, maybe it wasn't just for information.   And I began to think about Adam and Eve in the garden and say, when he says, "Where are you?" It wasn't because God didn't know. And it wasn't a geographical question as much as I think it's a relational and theological question that he wants Adam and Eve to answer. And so, as a result of that, I said, "Why then would God do that?" Well, God already knows, but he desires connection with us. And then I thought, "Ooh, yeah, that isn't just God to us. There are times where I ask questions of my kids when they were younger, or of other little kids at church, where I know the answer already, but I'm asking it as a way of building trust and shared story and connection with them."   And I thought, yeah, there's real connection when it comes to questions. And when we do that, when we offer our full selves, the French philosopher, Simone Weil, she said, "Attention is the rarest and purest form of generosity." And as a result of that, that's the hospitality piece. And I think, let's not forget that the word hospital is in the word hospitality, that our questions and our attention can actually be a form of healing that we offer to other people. When we think of hospitality, we often think of, I don't know, making a fresh pie or laying out doilies and sweeping the house before someone comes over. That can be part of it. But the real definition of hospitality is making new people feel comfortable in new situations. And so, what do good questions do? They help people who might feel new or an outsider feel like they're an insider. And I believe that's one of the beautiful benefits of questions where people say, "Man, thank you. No one has ever asked me that." Or "I feel seen. Wow, you really want to care. You care enough to know what I'm thinking." That is an unbelievable gift that we can give to others as a form of hospitality.   Laura Dugger: (8:36 - 8:55) And I think that illuminates what you even say up front in your book, that you do believe that these questions can change our life and the lives of those around us, and especially through this powerful book that you've written. So, can you elaborate on that claim?   J.R. Briggs: (8:56 - 10:33) Yeah, the dimensions of your life expand or contract depending upon the questions that you ask. So, when we refrain from asking good questions, our world gets smaller. And when we start to ask better questions, and more frequently, our worlds begin to expand. And so, what I tell people is we don't have a shortage of information. We have a shortage of wisdom and curiosity and wonder. And so, what we need to kindle in that is that desire for and that ability to ask the right questions at the right time for the right reason to the right people.   And if we want more information, we should just Google it. But if what we're after is wisdom and connection and engagement, we need questions. And questions are, I think we all would admit, Laura, questions are important. I don't think that we would realize just how powerful they actually are. And so, the goal of the book was to unleash and wake up the sleeping giants that exist and say, this can be used for good. There's so many, again, we don't have a shortage of information. But asking good questions is a lost art. And the goal is to try to help people realize its power, that it's more accessible. They're free. They can be used at any time. They don't have a shelf life. But we just need to cultivate the desire for it and then have some skills to lean in, because it really can be such an unbelievable gift. The questions that we ask often reveal the values that we hold. And so that's another way that we can press into that as well.   Laura Dugger: (10:34 - 10:49) Okay, so let's say that the desire is there. Maybe for all of us, probably the skill is a little lacking. How can we begin to get a little bit better at this or just get started with asking better questions today?   J.R. Briggs: (10:49 - 14:18) Yeah, well, we got to start, Laura, by admitting that there are a lot of obstacles that exist that our culture puts in front of us to make it hard to do that. One is we're in an attention-seeking age, right? I mean, the joke says enough about me, what do you think about me? And so, because we live in the social media, look at me, look at me reality that we're in, it's really hard because questions are the opposite. I'm putting the spotlight on you rather than on my own life. But we also are in a culture of great efficiency, and so questions feel inefficient. They feel really inefficient, like it slows things down. How many of us have been in a meeting and we're about to get up and someone says, "Any questions?" And someone, "Oh," and we just say, "No, no, no, we were just about to leave, you're slowing us down." And so that in the business world and in sales, that's the number one thing is questions. We got stuff to do and things to sell. But if we can just slow down, it's better.   But those are some of the obstacles that exist. So, if we're assuming we have curiosity, we have wisdom, we have humility, and we have courage, which are the four components. If those are there, then there are some things that we can engage in that can help us and several practices, like the simplest practice we can do when we hear a good question, write it down. A lot of people feel like two things. They have to come up with all the questions themselves. You don't. I love questions. I'm pretty good at questions, but I don't generate all my questions. I've read them on billboards or heard them on a podcast or overheard somebody in line at Starbucks behind me. And you go, "Man, that's a really good question. Write it down." We think we're going to remember later, Laura, and that's the second thing. We won't. We have to write it down. And I just encourage people, open up the notes section of your phone and just have something on there that says great questions. When you hear of one, think of one, read of one in a good novel, write it on the list. You can always return to it later. So, just awareness, number one, that my radar is up, listening for good questions, can be a great start.   And then also just to reflect later to say, "What was the best question I asked today or in that conversation or in that meeting or over dinner with my family? What was the best question I asked?" So, that's a little bit of reflection, but also preparation. Anytime we go into a meeting, anytime we go into any sort of connection, even if it's coffee with a friend, to always see if I can come with two questions ahead of time. Now, sometimes I write them down, sometimes I don't. I may not even get a chance to ask them, but just coming prepared where I say, "Oh, I'm meeting with my friend, Sam. Oh, Sam's dad just had significant surgery. So, here's an important question. Sam, how's your dad doing? And how are you doing as you care for your dad?" It's a little bit of preparation. It's not an hour. I'm just spending five minutes on my drive to the coffee shop to say, "My first question is going to be, Sam, how's your dad? And how are you doing caring for your dad?" So, just a little bit more thought. It doesn't require three times the amount of effort. Sometimes it's just five or 10% more effort and intentionality that can improve our question asking.   Laura Dugger: (14:19 - 16:29) So much thoughtfulness there. 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And in Morton, they offer a variety of apartment homes with garages, a hot downtown location, and now a brand-new high-end complex near Idlewood Park. If you want to become part of their team, contact them about open office positions. They're also hiring in their maintenance department. So, we invite you to find out why so many people have chosen to make a career with them. Check them out on Facebook today or email their friendly staff at leasing@lemanprops.com. You can also stop by their website at lemanproperties.com. Check them out and find your place to call home today.   Clearly J.R., Jesus has been a role model for asking questions. So, can you contrast what you describe as Jesus's field trips that he takes his disciples on versus the way that you view Sunday mornings in a lot of churches in America? Can you kind of contrast those two?   J.R. Briggs: (16:29 - 18:42) Yeah, oftentimes when I'm talking to pastors or leaders, faith leaders, I remind them of this. But yeah, Jesus loved to take his listeners on three field trips, three kinds. First one, he took them on physical field trips. We see that where Jesus says, "You know, look at the birds of the air, look at the lilies of the field," or "Look at the woman putting in two mites in the temple treasury." Life is a classroom. And so, he loved taking people on literal field trips.   Number two, he took them on emotional field trips by telling them stories, not in abstract ways of thinking, but the kingdom of God is like a woman kneading dough. It's like a fisherman who caught fish. It's like a father with two sons. And I think we're wrapped up in that when we watch a good movie, and we cry and laugh and we're scared. Those are all because a beautiful story did something to us. It took us on some sort of emotional field trip.   And then third is a mental field trip, which we're talking about here by asking questions. Jesus asked a ton of questions. And as a result of that, got people thinking in new ways. Now, if the way, the truth and the life, if anyone had the right to just give answers, it would be Jesus. But instead, he chose to ask a lot of questions. And so those three field trips, literal by going on walks, getting outside of a classroom, the mental field trip of asking questions and the emotional field trips of telling stories. Jesus did that all the time. Once you know that and you read the gospels, you'll see it everywhere.   The problem is, as you were referring to, Laura, on Sunday mornings, what do we do? We sit people in a church in pews. Almost all of the teaching or formation happens in the same room. Instead of telling stories, we give abstract information. And instead of asking questions, we just give answers. And then we sit around and wonder, "Why is no one changing?" And my gentle encouragement is, what would it look like if we actually learned to teach others the way Jesus actually taught? Imagine that. So, it's a bit of a stretch because culturally we're kind of drawn in to the way we've always done it in church. And yet oftentimes Jesus did almost the opposite of the way in which we teach today.   Laura Dugger: (18:44 - 18:55) And so, if you see that as an opposite, do you have any practical ideas of just a small tweak that we could make on Sunday mornings to be more like Jesus?   J.R. Briggs: (18:56 - 20:32) Sure. I always try to say, is there any way I can get people's bodies or their hearts up out of the seat? So, "Hey, I want you to stand up and turn to the person next to you." Or, "Hey, we're going to move around the room." Some of you say, "What? We would never do that at our church." And I would say, take a risk. Jesus did all sorts of things that surprise people. So, how can I get their hearts and their bodies up out of their seat? Number one.   Number two, can I tell a few more stories than I have in the past in my teaching or preaching or Sunday morning? And then also, can I engage with questions by asking them questions at the beginning? Can I leave them with some reflection questions in the bulletin or on the website the next week? Or can I actually have them asking questions of each other or of the text itself? And so oftentimes, why do I feel like I'm the one that has to speak the whole time when I'm preaching? What if instead I allow them to ask questions of each other, of God, and even of myself? And sometimes when I preach, I allow the last five or 10 minutes for people to ask questions about the text to myself and everyone else. Now, is that a change? Yeah. Would that freak out some churches? Maybe. But it can be a way that people walk away and say, "Wow, I learned, I was engaged, I was formed, and I encountered God in a new way that I haven't in the past." Which is the whole goal, that we don't just learn more about the Bible, is that we know the God of the Bible. That's the whole point of why we gather together as a church.   Laura Dugger: (20:33 - 20:46) And that would be so memorable. But also, as you're speaking about stories, are you willing to share the story of one of the times that you asked a question, and it turned out better than you could have ever asked or hoped for?   J.R. Briggs: (20:47 - 22:27) Yeah. I could think of several, but sometimes just asking people, "Why is that?" Just as a follow-up. It's amazing what can spill out. And I go, "Oh, that confronted my biases. That confronted my assumptions and what I thought about them." And so sometimes just asking some of that has been incredibly helpful to just ask that follow-up question.   I won't tell the whole story that I recounted in the book, but oftentimes when there are tears, it was Charles Spurgeon that said that tears are like liquid prayers. And so, when people are showing some emotion, I sometimes will say to them, even if they're not a follower of Jesus, even if they're not religious, "I'm curious. It's been said that tears are liquid prayers. Can you put words to the prayers that your face is praying right now?" And I've had some of the most unbelievable conversations where people can identify the prayers that their face is praying. And even in my own life, where I just step back and go, "Why am I, why was I so moved by that novel? Why was I so moved by that movie? Or what just happened in front of me? Or why, where are these tears coming from?" As Frederick Buechner said, we'd be best to pay attention to our tears. And so that question of what are the liquid prayers, can I put words to the prayer that my face is praying has been an unbelievably meaningful and eye-opening thing for me and also with people that I've been with.   Laura Dugger: (22:29 - 22:37) Will you also share about how you arrived at asking two questions that have opened numerous doors for you?   J.R. Briggs: (22:38 - 25:21) Yeah. Yeah. When I was in college, I had the privilege of studying in Israel for the semester. This is fall of my junior year. Absolutely loved it. And our class was on a four-day field trip up around the Sea of Galilee. One night I was down by the lake and happened to notice as the sun was about to set that there was a big fishing vessel that had just come in. And I had always wanted to go fishing on the Sea of Galilee, not just take a boat, not just see fishermen, but like be on the boat and fish with fishermen. I don't even love fishing myself, but I just wanted to experience what Jesus and his disciples experienced on the lake.   And there was a big industrial ship that came in. They brought in their day's catch. And I thought, "Oh, I should ask them if I can go fishing with them." And Laura, and then, you know, the realistic brain in me said, "Why would they ever allow a college, American college student and a study abroad program to go fishing with them tomorrow?" And I had these two questions that hit me, Laura. "Well, what's the worst they could say? No, or heck no, or get out of here. You're crazy." And number two, "Can I handle that? If they were to say that." Those two questions, I thought, "You know, I can handle it now. Let me ask what's the worst he could say. Let me ask."   So, I went up and I said, "Excuse me, can I talk to your captain?" And they said, "Menachem is over here." So, I introduced myself to him and I said, "Menachem, I've always wanted to go fishing on the Sea of Galilee. I'll pay you $50. If I can go fishing for the day, use me as, as I mean, any work me to death. If you want, like I'm here, I just want to." And he looked at me, he said, "I don't want your money." He said, "Join me tomorrow morning at 6 a.m. And you can come fishing with us." And I walked away and went, "Unbelievable. My dream is coming true." And I had an unbelievable day, but I realized I can't say no for someone else. What's the worst they could say? No. Can I just ask and handle it if they said no? Yep, I can handle it. Those two questions, Laura, have shaped me immensely throughout my lifetime. I've really, I've done that in a lot of different ways. And a lot of times people say no, and I can handle that. But a lot of times people said yes. And some doors have opened simply because I asked. And I actually think of that verse often, Laura, where it says you do not have because you do not ask. It's not name it and claim it prosperity gospel. But we just have to realize that sometimes we just need to ask to put ourselves out there and see what people say.   Laura Dugger: (25:23 - 25:55) That is so good. And I have applied those questions since reading that in your book, even as I reach out to ask you if you would do two recordings. So, I'm so grateful that that you said yes, I'm delighted that today's not our only conversation. But I'm curious also, J.R., when you had that experience, a lot of us may not ever get to go fish on the Sea of Galilee. So, did you learn anything that brought the Bible to life or anything about Jesus or anything that you can share with us from that incredible experience?   J.R. Briggs: (25:55 - 27:37) Oh, there's so many, but I'll limit it to one. When we started out that morning, the sea was so calm. I mean, it was like glass. It was beautiful. The sun was rising, not a cloud in the sky. And it was great. But I've always wondered these like storms. You know, the Sea of Galilee is not a sea. It's a lake. It's 10 miles by six miles. It looks like a harp. And that's why it's called Lake Kinneret. In Hebrew, that means harp. So, it's harp lake is the way that we could call it. But I thought it's still a lake. How can there be storms that would have professional fishermen that would be screaming, thinking they were going to die? How is that possible?   Well, wouldn't you know it, Laura? As beautiful as it was, the clouds rolled in. And then later that afternoon, there was a squall of a storm. I have never been in more intense in my life. And it happened right there. Now we're in a maybe two-ton, three-ton fishing vessel. But even that, we had to go below deck because it was so brutal. The waves, the wind, we couldn't see more than 10 feet in front of us. And I thought, "Ah, now I get it. If I'm just in a wooden boat with my fellow, you know, disciples here, I can see why this could get a little panicky." And that was, I think, a little God wink for me to be able to experience both the peace and calm, but also this treacherous storm and go, "Ah, now I won't read my Bible the same again when I hear about the, you know, the disciples freaking out with the storm or seeing Jesus walk on the water approaching them." So, that's one of many, but that sticks out to me a great deal that I got to experience a very intense storm.   Laura Dugger: (27:38 - 28:27) That is so incredible. Even just going back, so those two questions that you were willing to ask led to this incredible experience. And now people from around the world get to benefit from the lessons that you learned at that time. So, I think you're giving us so much encouragement for asking questions.   Guess what? We are no longer an audio only podcast. We now have video included as well. If you want to view the conversation each week, make sure you watch our videos. We're on YouTube and you can access videos or find answers to any of your other questions about the podcast when you visit thesavvysauce.com.   What happens to our brain or within our brain when we're asking or being asked a question?   J.R. Briggs: (28:28 - 30:19) Yeah, this was an incredibly fun part of the research for me was what does this do neurobiologically to us? And so, what neurologists have found is when they put nodes all over your brain to kind of see how the brain activity happens, when you're given information, your brain lights up. But what they found is when someone is asked a question, your brain explodes like fireworks, the synapses that are firing, and it just lights up like crazy, like fireworks in the night. And one of the things they said, as much as we think we can multitask, we can't. We do a lot of switching, task switching, but not multitasking. But they said what happens is they use the word hijack. You can hijack someone's brain when you actually are asking a question of someone, even if it's for two seconds.   And so, if I were to ask your listeners, Laura, "What are the color of the shoes you're wearing right now?" Whether your listeners liked it or not, I just hijacked their brain for a split second there, and they went, "What are the color of my shoes?" And so that's immense amount of power to, quote unquote, hijack someone's brain. So, we need to use that power wisely. But it's an immense amount of power that we can have when we ask someone a question, not just give them an answer, which I love when current neurobiological research matches up with scripture and with the way Jesus taught. How did Jesus teach? A ton of questions. What happened? He engaged with people. They participated with him. They were forced to learn and be participants, not just talking theoretically about faith. And I thought, isn't that just like Jesus? He knew how our brains are wired. And so, he uses questions as a way of maximum connection, challenge, engagement, and formation.   Laura Dugger: (30:20 - 30:43) Wow. And you've cultivated, like you say, this holy curiosity. So, I am curious for you, J.R., when you're in a conversation and you find yourself asking question after question, have you been in a situation like this where they don't reciprocate, they don't ask any questions back? And how do you handle that internally and externally?   J.R. Briggs: (30:44 - 32:41) Yeah, it's hard because we live in a culture that hasn't modeled that well to ask good questions. And sometimes it's been hard. And I admit that sometimes there's a sense of loneliness. When I have a lunch meeting and my wife will say, "How was your lunch meeting today?" We have a code word where I say either waiter or waitress. And it means the waiter or waitress came and took my plate away because I was done with my meal before they had taken one or two bites of their food. And oftentimes that happens where we leave a meal and we realize, "I don't think I was asked a single question this whole lunch." Or we go to a dinner party, no one asked me a single question. And that can be really hard.   And I love asking people questions. And it's not like I'm just ramming it down their throats to ask question after question like Elf with his brother walking through Central Park where he's just rattling off question after question. I was giving pause, I was taking a bite of my food, allowing them to ask a question or two, and they never did. And sometimes people say, "Well, I don't really know, I'm not good at questions." And I say, one of the simplest things you can do is what I call the way question, W-A-Y. It's just to say, "What about you?" I've been talking. What about you? To just hit the ball back over the net and to allow us to engage in some conversational pickleball. It's been on my side, let me hit it. Now it's on your side and you hit it back. That's how all healthy relationships exist. And so, it's been a little disappointing at times to realize you can go, and I'm sure you and others have experienced that. That's really hard. And to have people that can just say, "What about you? What do you think? Have you ever experienced that?" Or "I have another question for you." That's how healthy relationships are cultivated when there's that back and forth in conversation.   Laura Dugger: (32:42 - 32:51) Okay. And so, if we want to cultivate that back-and-forth conversation, can you just share a few more tips for ways that we can level up our questions?   J.R. Briggs: (32:52 - 34:24) Sure. Yeah. There's a unique, almost universal principle when it comes to question asking. If you ask a generic unthoughtful question, you will almost always get a generic unthoughtful answer. "How are you?" "Fine." "How's your weekend?" "Good." But if you ask a thoughtful, specific, engaging question, you almost always get a thoughtful, specific, engaging answer. It's as predictable as a communist election. It's amazing how that works, where we can just, if we can just level up.   So, if a lazy question would be, "How was your weekend?" I encourage people to say, what would 10 or 15 percent of a more thoughtful, specific, or focused question be? So, you could say, "Of your whole weekend, how would you describe your weekend in two or three adjectives?" That's a little bit different than just, "How was your weekend?" Or, "Hey, how are you doing?" That's good. You might say, "What has been the most interesting thing about your day so far?" It just takes a little bit more intentionality. When you ask it that way, you won't get the fine, good. You'll get the, you know, "I had a really interesting sales meeting today at 10 a.m. You know, I bumped into my neighbor, and we had the best conversation at the mailbox." Those are the kinds of answers you get because we ask the more specific, thoughtful question. We'll get more specific and thoughtful answers. So, that's what I encourage people to do. Just level up to be just a little bit more pointed by 10 or 15 percent and see what happens.   Laura Dugger: (34:26 - 34:40) Okay. So, hopefully we're all going to put this into practice. But then also, if we have children in our home, what can we do to be teaching them this same goal of reciprocity and asking great questions?   J.R. Briggs: (34:40 - 37:02) Yes. I'm so glad you brought this up, Laura. There's so much that we can do. I try to do this. We try to do this with our kids when they were younger. Our kids are 19 and 16 now and we still engage in good questions with them. But when they were little, we would do things. I would crawl into bed with each of them at bedtime and we would do question of the night. And so, I would say, "You get to ask dad any question you want and then I get to ask you any question that you want." And so, age appropriate, you know, what's your favorite ice cream color or ice cream flavor or your favorite color? But sometimes they would pull out some really fascinating ones. Like one time, my youngest son said, "Dad, what does God smell like?" And it just made me laugh. I just thought, what a great question from a five- or six-year-old about that. And so just being intentional there at bedtime has been really good.   Car time is really important. And I really try to see if I can ask some questions that I can't ask in other places because now I've got their full attention. We're in the car together. And even as my sons are now older, when they're in the car together, something about staring out the windshield together to be able to talk through some things has been really good. It could be about school, could be about life, could be something trivial, but to know that this is a place where we can talk. And so, car time, bedtime, and the last one I'll give is dinner time. We have a big chalk wall next to our dining room table. And we'll just randomly put up questions, thoughtful questions. And then we'll sometimes say after prayer, "Okay, boys, when they were little, you know, you each get to pick one question off the wall that we talk about tonight." And it just became a real easy way. And you can make up one if you want, or there are questions here. We also found a deck of cards that actually had questions on each one. It was like a questions deck. And so, we'll say, "Great, like you can pick off the wall, you can make up your own, or just pick a question that's in the deck." And just doing that where everybody got a chance to share around the table became such a way, such a rich conversation but a way to remind them questions are okay, encouraged, and a wonderful part of being a part of a family.   Laura Dugger: (37:03 - 37:32) Those are such great ideas. I love that and that we can implement some of that right away. But as we're starting to wind our time down together, I would love to hear one more story about a time that a question dramatically changed the outcome of a friendly gathering that you write about on the back patio of a Capitol Hill home in Washington, D.C. Yeah, I remember reading this story, Laura, and I was so moved.   J.R. Briggs: (37:32 - 39:52) I was moved to tears that I ran over to my wife and I said, "Listen to this story." And we both just sat there crying. Yeah, these families were on the back porch on a wonderful summer evening enjoying some stuff on the grill. And all of a sudden a gunman came up behind one of the teenage girls and held a gun to her head and said, "Nobody move, give me your money or I'm going to shoot." Everyone froze, rightfully so, the terror that they experienced. And one woman just blurted out the first thing that came to her mind. She said, "Why don't you sit down and have some wine with us?" Which is not something that has ever come to my mind if someone were to walk in and rob me. And sure enough, he put his gun in his belt and sat down and had some wine. And he said, "Boy, this is really good wine." And I said, "Why don't you enjoy some more to eat?" And then afterwards, she said, "Can I give you a hug?" And the guy was totally startled. Yeah. And then afterwards, everyone else decided to give him a hug. And as they enjoyed food, you know, they're all tense and not sure what to do or what's going on. At the end, he said, "Can I have a group hug together?" And then he slipped out the back and even the glass, the wine glass that he had, it wasn't even broken. He just set it up right behind the back gate.   And I just was so moved by that. Like, "Do you want a glass of wine? Do you want a hug?" Not things that would come to my mind, but it was so jolting and surprising. I think it humanized him. And before he left, the robber said, "I think I've come to rob the wrong house tonight." It's amazing what a question can do. That was a question of immense hospitality. You're welcome here. That's the last thing that this robber ever expected. So, I just love that story. I love that story because it reminds us once again how powerful questions actually are.   Laura Dugger: (39:53 - 40:09) And I think it illustrates at the heart of questions is love. And that motivates so much of the work that you get to do, J.R. So, can you just share a little bit more about the work you do get to do and share how we can be connected after this conversation?   J.R. Briggs: (40:10 - 41:07) Sure. Yeah. I've been a pastor for 15 years, but in 2011, I started what's called Kairos Partnerships. And it was passionate about leaders because leadership can be lonely, overwhelming, and sometimes leaders feel ill-equipped. And so actually our organization was started based on three questions. Who pastors the pastor? Who leads the leader? Who shepherds the shepherd? So, we work with some pastors, but we work with all sorts of entrepreneurs and businesspeople and Chick-fil-A operators and college presidents and division one men's basketball coaches, anyone who's following Jesus, but leading others. And so, we do that through coaching, through consulting, through writing, speaking, spiritual direction. And so, our team, I have a wonderful team, and the team really walks alongside of leaders who are wanting to be equipped so they can lead with clarity and confidence moving forward.   Laura Dugger: (41:08 - 41:27) I love that. Well, we will put a link to your website and the show notes for today's episode, but J.R., you may be familiar. We are called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge. And so, as my final question for you today, what is your savvy sauce?   J.R. Briggs: (41:28 - 42:03) One of the prayers that I pray regularly is, "Lord, would you grant me wisdom, courage, and compassion?" And all three of those are important because if I have wisdom and courage, but no compassion, I'm careless. If I have wisdom and compassion, but no courage, I'm riskless. And if I have compassion and courage, but no wisdom, that can be reckless. But if I have wisdom, courage, and compassion together, that's priceless. And so, I just try to pray that regularly because I say, "Lord, I want to be a wise, compassionate, courageous person for you." And I would encourage your listeners to pray that prayer for wisdom, courage, and compassion as well.   Laura Dugger: (42:05 - 42:20) Those are great words that I would use to describe you, J.R. And you are humble and warm and engaging. And I have greatly appreciated your book. I've already told people it's my favorite book that I've read in recent history.   J.R. Briggs: (42:20 - 42:22) So, thank you.   Laura Dugger: (42:22 - 42:31) Well, thank you. That's very kind of you. Yes, very easy to compliment it. But thank you for being my guest, and I look forward to hosting you again next time.   J.R. Briggs: (42:31 - 42:33) Sounds great. Looking forward to that as well.   Laura Dugger: (42:35 - 45:49) One more thing before you go, have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you, but it starts with the bad news.   Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved.   We need a savior, but God loved us so much. He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him.   That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life. We could never live and died in our place for our sin.   This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished. If we choose to receive what he has done for us, Romans 10:9 says, “that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   So, you pray with me now. Heavenly father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you.   Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus name we pray.   Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me. So, me for him, you get the opportunity to live your life for him.   And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you're ready to get started.   First, tell someone, say it out loud, get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes and Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it.   You can start by reading the book of John. Also get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.   We want to celebrate with you too. So, feel free to leave a comment for us here. If you did make a decision to follow Christ, we also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process.   And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “in the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today.   And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

Table of Contents: Updated Group Prayer–List of Current Event Prayer Points–Part 2 Vatican Bids for Global Authority Listener Comment: Brief words of wisdom after 70 years in ministry–this pastor hits the nail on the head An Army Ranger’s Message to Christian Men: Get Ready Nation’s biggest bank warns of global food ‘crisis’ in 2027–‘Massive Global Food Crises’: JPMorgan Warns That Next Big Event “Won’t be Short-Lived”–Be Ready! Prepare for What’s Coming! Fuel Rationing Spreads As Diesel Rises, Cushing Back Near ‘Tank Bottoms’ Warning of Nationwide Blackout; Nine Substation Failures Collapse ENTIRE Grid, Could Last 18 MONTHS “Economic D-Day”: Trump Announces, “Most Crushing Economic Operation Ever” On Iran, UAE Cuts US Ties US Now Expects Iran War Oil Supply Disruption to Last Until END of 2027–Prices Will Rise BREAKING: Iran warns it is preparing for military operations on US soil following a “new military doctrine tasking IRGC to attack enemy in its soil,” adding Iran will “take operations into enemy territory, into the enemy's lands, and carry out operations far from our own territory,” Iranian Economic Warfare / “Pre-Emptive” Strike Muhammad the Founder of Islam–This is shocking but the truth needs to be told–The Bible says in Ephesians 5:11 & 13: “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.” The 1828 Noah Webster Dictionary defines: “Reprove”: To blame, to convince of a fault, or to make it manifest, to excite a sense of guilt. More Wonderful Satanic Fruit From Islam!! Hellish: Ceuta Mothers Weep In Streets—Muslim Savages Rapes Force Women To Flee–Children's Parks Smeared In the Muslim Invaders Feces Bacha Bazi: The Muslim Abuse of Boys in Afghanistan–American Soldiers Tell What They Saw        Proof The Islamization of the US Military! Unbelievable! American activist is almost killed all because he protested a Muslim only event and exercised his right to free speech–He was only holding up a sign saying “Jesus is King” and a pro deportation sign in Dearborn Michigan– Once again they are coming to Christian countries to dominate and take over–It’s happening in Europe, and now in North America! The Dearborn MI Muslim Mayor and Police Chief Are Both Lying Devils! But That Should Not Surprise Us-As That is All Part of Their Wicked Muslim Death Cult! Muslims in Dearborn, MI carrying firearms and chomping at the bit to start killing the infidels! Once they are in power they protect their own–Dearborn is corrupt and has totally fallen–They are operating under Taqiyyah & Sharia Law! Islamists in Dearborn Have No Idea What They Just Unleashed!! This is not Iraq or Afghanistan, this is Chicago Illinois “They’re declaring that all Jews and all Christians will be removed from this city! — They're chanting “Muhammad is the only one! May Allah be lifted up!”' The enemy is no longer in some far off land, it's not at our gate, he's right here! PDF: Emergency Freedom Alerts 8-24-26 Click Here To Play The Part 1 Audio Source

Weekend Recap 08-22-26 Another bad weekend for leftism. Oh my goodness. Unbelievable. Look, I know woke is taking a beating, but the left is taking a beating on so many levels that I would tell you it's to call it embarrassing. Is it? It's so many things. I mean, it's on so many levels. I got a chuckle.  I mean, everything is about wokeism, whether you believe it or not is about wokeism. So the LGBT thing, black thing, the climate change, all it's wokeism, shots and viruses and all this stuff. And they're backing away from it all. But I got to tell you, it's taken a beating under Trump. You can see it everywhere. You can see it everywhere.  And the reason I'm bringing this up is because I heard something I'd never heard. It was called woke one. Well, DEI. dismantled.  The language is changing, right?  Corporations at once couldn't get through a board meeting without somebody mentioning diversity, equity, and inclusion are suddenly discovering the timeless beauty of merit. Well, we talk about it, Unified Solutions America, every single day and twice on Sundays. And now we have Democrats talking about this thing called Woke One. like Woke version 1.0, and I love it.  I absolutely, it sounds like a software release. Apparently, Woke 1 was the beta version, but they found out, you ready? There were bugs, bugs in the code, bugs that even AI couldn't fix. They had a system crash. The police department stopped functioning. People discovered that men and women were somehow both the same and different depending upon which sentence you were constructing. Universities became ideological pressure cookers. Americans were instructed to evaluate virtually everything through the lens of race and gender and identity and all other crazy things that the left could think of.  Welcome people. Kevin Jackson's who you're listening to, the Kevin Jackson Show, KJRadio.com. And then there was a small matter of telling people that, you ready? America's rotten.  How dare you want to grow up in this country that has given everything to everybody and saved the world multiple times? And it is the most loving, giving, caring, philanthropic, humanitarian nation on the face of the earth since God invented people. And they tell you we're bad. You're rotten. You're rotten to your rotten cores, you Americans. Well, that is, unless you're a leftist. But don't worry, folks, that was woke one. We're moving on. I have a question. How many times can you get woke? Because see, this is the part I don't buy. I don't think Democrats are ushering in a new woke. I think they're waking up from woke.  And you've heard me say this. I told you over the last four or five years, I told you Democrats are waking up from woke. And we used to say it when I was a kid, I mean, younger, Maybe not a kid. Like, man, you got to get woke. And it was always around black issues. Like, Kevin, you got to get with the program, man.  Kevin Jackson has been called, the "white-collar" Joe Rogan. Given their similar backgrounds in TV, comedy, and martial arts, it's easy to see why people enjoy Kevin's show so much. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When did you lose your virginity??? Because, apparently, the point at which you lost it is correlated with later-in-life health outcomes. On today's episode of Fake the Nation, comedian and host Negin Farsad is joined by comedians Mehran Khagani and Ophira Eisenberg and together they unpack the "data" on virginity and health. Plus, they figure out the AI Job Apocalypse. So don't miss this episode because then you won't know how to solve the future of jobs!Follow everyone!Ophira Eisenberg: @OphiraE plus watch her special on Veeps or listen to the album www.ophiraeisenberg.com/Mehran Khagani: @TheMehran everywhereNegin Farsad: @NeginFarsad everywhere or watch her on Hulu in the History Channel show The UnBelievable with Dan AkroydRate Fake The Nation 5-stars on Apple Podcasts and leave us a review!Follow Negin Farsad on TwitterEmail Negin fakethenationpodcast@gmail.comHost - Negin FarsadProducer - Rob HeathTheme Music - Gaby AlterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this recap episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell dig into their favorite takeaways from the conversation with Tara Connaghan, a traditional Irish fiddle player from Donegal whose award-winning podcast decodes the unspoken rules of Irish music sessions. They unpack why unfamiliar spaces feel so intimidating to newcomers, the etiquette of joining as a beginner, the three kinds of people every new learner needs.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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What's the etiquette? Do I have enough skills to be here? Am I allowed to sit here? Can I sit there? And she explained that you're scared because you just don't know how to enter the space. And I think it's really important to acknowledge that when we're a beginner at things, we're allowed to have some fear, you know?Lesley Logan 0:15  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap, where my co-host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the warm convo I have with Tara Connaghan in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, you can pause this, go listen to that, and then come back to this. You can listen to this, then go back to that. She has an Irish accent.Brad Crowell 1:12  Yes, she does.Lesley Logan 1:13  So sometimes that's fun to listen to.Brad Crowell 1:15  It sure was. She's also a musician. Love that.Lesley Logan 1:18  Yes, yes. And she has a great podcast as well. It's winning awards, even though it's brand new, because it's so niche. It's a niche in a niche. It's kind of amazing, but we'll get into that in a minute. First, today is August 20, 2026, and it's World Mosquito Day because, you know what? Those little fuckers need their own day. Honestly, because you need to be reminded that they suck. But you need to know how bad it is because it's...Brad Crowell 1:39  Literally.Lesley Logan 1:40  Oh, that's so funny! Pun wasn't intended, but I slayed that. So World Mosquito Day unites global health efforts every August 20th commemorating Sir Ronald Ross's 1897 discovery that mosquitoes transmit malaria. Well, thanks, Sir Ronald Ross. Do you think his parents named him Sir Ronald Ross, or he was Ronald Ross, and then they got the "Sir"?Brad Crowell 2:01  He got the "Sir."Lesley Logan 2:01  Oh, okay.Brad Crowell 2:02  Yeah.Lesley Logan 2:02  Well, this crucial day raises awareness about the ongoing threat of mosquito-borne illnesses like dengue, dengue?Brad Crowell 2:09  DengueLesley Logan 2:09  Dengue, Zika. Brad Crowell 2:11  Yeah, it would be normally known as dengue fever.Lesley Logan 2:13  Yeah, dengue fever, Zika, and yeah. Brad Crowell 2:16  Good luck on that one.Lesley Logan 2:20  Chikungunya. I'm reminding.Brad Crowell 2:25  It could be Chikungunya. Chikungunya.Lesley Logan 2:28  I'm not sure. Yeah. Anyways, well, my speech therapy didn't help me with that one. Discover how you can protect yourself, support research, and contribute to eradication initiatives worldwide. You know what you can do? Keep your fucking still water from being still. You guys, stir your pools. Don't let, you know, I listened to an episode of The Daily years ago when it was good, and it talked about how there are these mosquitoes that can live in a capful, you know those plastic water bottles? That size capful of water in a tire across continents. So on a ship that takes months, and then they can just spread. They don't need a lot of water anymore. So you guys have got to move your water around. Do you remember when we lived in LA and there was a big deal about the virus, and we were like at the airport. Everybody was on guard for puddles and drying things up. It was a weird community. It was before COVID, but LA had a community because people were getting... I don't think it was Zika, but there was a virus being carried by the mosquitoes, and it was a reason why even the airport had to clean up their water. They were giving out fines.Brad Crowell 3:31  I can't remember what it was, because Zika is usually in Asia, but it obviously can spread.Lesley Logan 3:37  So obviously, I talk about standing water around your home, but applying an EPA-registered repellent and raising awareness about mosquito-borne diseases is a great way to support the public health initiatives. Isn't it funny if we just start going around. Everybody today, I want you to go around and go, "It's World Mosquito Day. Do you have any standing water? Do you know how to get rid of mosquitoes?" So Vegas was notoriously known for having no mosquitoes, and now we have lots of mosquitoes. We have a whole mosquito problem, and at UNLV, there's a woman who studies the whole thing. But now we have mosquitoes, and it's really annoying because I thought I only got bit by mosquitoes when I was in Cambodia. Now we get bit all the time.Brad Crowell 4:10  It's not even, I mean, honestly, LA was, I felt like I got more mosquitoes in LA than Cambodia, but it depends on the time of year in Cambodia. I think it depends on the season, of course. But there definitely are mosquitoes there. We had a lot more in Thailand than Cambodia.Lesley Logan 4:26  Thailand killed me. Cambodia, I've learned to figure it out. And when you come to our retreat in Cambodia, we tell you what to do so you don't get bit. All right, you guys, what do we got going on? We're on our way back from the tour, actually. So we're probably either in El Paso or on our way to Tucson right now. We're gonna wrap it up in a few days in Las Vegas. And something you need to know, I'm really, really proud of. I started a teacher-training program for new teachers. So if you heard the rumor, it is true, and it's called upLift, and it will start early next year at a studio, hopefully near you. So, in fact, in the next couple weeks, I'll be taking applications from the people who want to license and teach the program, and then this fall, I'll be training them how to do it. Then I'll be working alongside them to make sure that it is done the way I know it will work and change your life and change the lives of the people that you teach. So you should go to xxll.co/uws if you would like to be a student. This is for first-time teachers or partially trained teachers, or maybe people who want to bridge into classical and they want it to be more of an in-person experience. So xxll.co/uws. And then for those who are already comprehensively trained and you want more of a master's program, you can go watch the recent eLevate Live Q&A call I did at lesleylogan.co/elevate. That's L-E-S-L-E-Ylogan.co/elevate. I did a mini class. I answered a ton of questions. We have a bunch of grads on there. We are filling 2028 as we speak, and only people who graduate eLevate can actually teach upLift. So if you are like, "Oh my God, how do I get my application in?" You won't even find out until you have done eLevate. So there you go. All right, you guys, we got a lot going on. Balanced Body sponsored our tour, so we're so excited because we have to take Contrology equipment everywhere, and we're spending a lot of time with them the rest of this year. I'll tell you more about that in a second. But thank you to Balanced Body for sponsoring our summer tour, and they are also sponsoring our winter tour this year, which we will announce next month. So make sure that you're on our email list so you don't miss out because literally on the summer tour, several cities sold out in one day. Brad Crowell 6:27  In one day. Lesley Logan 6:28  In one day.Brad Crowell 6:29  Yeah. So how do you get on the waitlist? Go to OPC.me/events.Lesley Logan 6:33  There you go. Go do that. Okay. So if you're new here, one of the ways you can actually support us is by being an OPC member. But if that's more of a commitment than you want to make, when you buy our amazing flashcards at opc.me/flashcards, not only do you support us and this podcast, but you're also supporting the Nevada SPCA. Just so you know.Brad Crowell 6:49  Yeah, but I just wanted to say before we move on, becoming a member, you can start with a trial. So it's a 40-day trial for 40 bucks, and you pick the trial based on the equipment you have access to, and then you get to come hang in this awesome community we have. We just revamped our community page, the whole community platform. It's really cool and just awesome people. So not only that, you can do it anywhere you are.Lesley Logan 7:15  Yeah, anywhere you are, at any level, with whatever you got. It's pretty great. It is the workout that works for you. That's what we say. So you guys, we're going to be home for a bit, and then we're going to be in Cambodia. You cannot join us this year in Cambodia, but you can certainly join us next year by getting on our waitlist. We will open up our early-bird special in January. If you hear a dog snoring in the background, her name is Darla. We cannot stop this; it's just going to keep going. But before we head to Cambodia, we're actually driving to Sacramento. I'm teaching, and we'll have a booth at the Sacramento POT. It is the Balanced Body 50th-Year Celebration. The ultimate, the penult, the penultimate, the, what do you call it? I mean, they've been celebrating all year long at all the different POTs.Lesley Logan 7:53  No, but anyways, it's at the headquarter area, and it's gonna be so much fun. And then after that, I'll be at the POT India. So I am at all the 50th anniversary POTS. Basically, I'll be aBrad Crowell 8:03  A 50-year celebration is called a golden jubilee or a golden anniversary.Lesley Logan 8:08  The Jubilee. I don't think they know that. I don't think they do either because they could have done a Jubilee instead of a whatever party. Anyways, here we are. So, if you want information about the Sacramento POT or what I'm doing in Goa, India, which, by the way, it looks stunning. I really will just say yes. I said yes because it's going to be at this stunning resort at the beach in Goa, and there's a bunch of Americans who are also going because they're like, "I wanted to take a workshop from you, and I've always wanted to go to India." And I'm like, "Well, see you there." Me too. So xxll.co/pot will get you information on both Sacramento and Goa. I have no idea how to get you information, but I am going to teach in China this year.Brad Crowell 8:44  Woo!Lesley Logan 8:45  This is a big deal.Brad Crowell 8:46  Yeah, just outside of Shanghai.Lesley Logan 8:47  Yeah, I don't even know how I'm getting there yet at the time of this recording. But we're figuring it out, everyone. Basically, here's what's going on. I am doing a lot of traveling with and without Brad this year because next year I'm not, because next year we're focused only on upLift, eLevate, our tours, and so it's quite an exciting time. I haven't said yes to anything for next year, and we're recording this in the summer, which is kind of insane because usually I'm already booked out, but we're not because we're saying, "Not yet, not yet." Anyways, all right, we got to get into this episode, but before that, Brad, what is the awareness that we're bringing people's attention to today?Brad Crowell 9:25  Yeah. So as you know, we switched to charity of the week instead of questions. So today we are doing something slightly different. We encourage you to seek out local businesses in your community to celebrate National Black Business Month. Yeah. So this month, instead of highlighting just one charity, we're focused on the whole month to go out and support your local Black-owned businesses. Why? Back in 1921 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, it was home to one of the wealthiest Black communities in the country, the Greenwood District, known as Black Wall Street. In the span of about 15 years, it had built up hundreds of Black-owned businesses: grocers, theaters, hotels, doctors' offices, over 1000 homes. And then, over a two-day period, white mobs, some of them literally deputized by the city, burned more than 35 city blocks. They burned them to the ground, and as many as 300 people died. Roughly 10,000 were left homeless, and not a single person was ever prosecuted. Yeah, for decades it barely appeared in the history books, and Greenwood residents rebuilt, but the community never got back to where it fully was. Survivors were never compensated. So when we talk about supporting Black-owned businesses today, it's not just a nice idea; it's part of rebuilding something that was deliberately destroyed.Lesley Logan 10:42  It's crazy because I didn't learn about this. I heard about this around 2020.Brad Crowell 10:46  Yeah, I started to hear about this. Actually, there were TV shows that were focused on this in the superhero world, and I started watching it, and I was like, "Whoa, this is crazy! How did I never hear about this?" And then I started to really learn more about it, and it's just tragic. It's just unbelievable. It's unbelievable.Lesley Logan 11:04  Here's the thing: if a hurricane does this, we're in an uproar if the government doesn't go in fast enough and fix things, right? But this was deliberately done. This is not, it's just hate racism. Yeah. And then no one went in and helped any of these people, and so yet again, a group of people were set back even further. So not only did we not do restitution after slavery, when they finally do get ahead, well, let's burn it to the ground and create even more problems. And so it's just really fucking frustrating.Brad Crowell 11:34  There is a, you know, if you're wondering how to go support local Black-owned businesses in your community, there's a great resource that you can use, that is ByBlack.us. It's a national directory built by the U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce. It's searchable by location and even has curated city guides. So wherever you're listening from, you can find Black-owned businesses near you. And if you're local to us in Las Vegas, check out the Greater Las Vegas Black Chamber of Commerce at glvbcc.org, and also the Henderson Black Chamber of Commerce or the local directory called Black Biz Connect Las Vegas.Lesley Logan 12:16  Yeah, and that came up just when we were doing this search, so you can also figure that out by putting your city in. It's just a great thing to do if you want to just be... Here's the deal: we vote with our dollars, and so every single day there are things that we have to do for these fucking billionaires because we can't get away from it. But also, you can do this, and you can make small changes. So it's really important. We recently, at the time of recording this, had donated $800 to the Nevada SPCA, right? And I was like, "Oh, I know it's only $800," and they're like, "It's a lot of money. Thank you so much." It's from your flashcards for quarter two. And I said, "Oh, can I find out what does that do?" And they were able to show me what $800 can do, right? It can feed 114 shelter animals for one week. So when you take your dollars and you put them locally into a locally owned business, you are making major impacts. The ripple effects are things you can't even understand or see. And then when you direct that to being a Black-owned business, you are actually helping. It's just something that's really, really amazing because that means family members and friends of that business owner are seeing that they can be successful as an entrepreneur. If you can't see things happen in your life, it's really hard to be it till you see it. So I just think it's important. I thought it was a great way to honor this month. And so just put your city in and put "Black-owned businesses," and you'll get a list, I'm sure.Brad Crowell 13:33  Yeah, awesome. So thanks for supporting your local Black-owned businesses. And if you have any Black-owned businesses, or actually any charities at all, that you suggest that we do some research on and then bring to the pod, text us at 310-905-5534. 310-905-5534. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 13:54  All right. Well, let's talk about Tara Connaghan. Tara is a traditional Irish fiddle player from Donegal with nearly 40 years of experience playing music. I think she said more than 40 years of experience. In fact, I think she said she's been teaching for 40 years.Lesley Logan 14:10  I mean, she doesn't look that old, so I don't think she could be. I don't think she's in her 60s.Brad Crowell 14:14  Regardless, she's very, very clearly an expert. She's the creator and host of the award-winning podcast, In Tune with Tradition: Perspectives on Session Etiquette and Irish Traditional Music. That is a very niche pod.Lesley Logan 14:29  It's a niche in a niche.Brad Crowell 14:30  It breaks down the unspoken cultural rules of Irish music sessions. She also teaches adults and leads private immersion experiences in Ireland for musicians wanting to dive deeper on session culture. Side note: She actually has a tour coming up in September 2026, so next month. So go to sessionetiquette.com/retreat for details. Pretty sure she said it's happening in Ireland. Lesley Logan 14:55  I think so. And also, by the way, if you don't even know what Irish music is and session etiquette, don't be like, "What is this podcast episode about?" I don't know, because actually everything that we discussed about that can be applied to being a beginner at anything. So I really, really like it.Brad Crowell 15:09  Yeah. Yeah. So.Lesley Logan 15:11  Well, I'll just go first. So I think we can all understand. When you're a beginner, there can be a performance anxiety of sorts. You're not sure if you're wanting to be a knitter. Okay, an example: Andrea Maida and her husband and Brad and I went to a knitting store because Andrea Maida, a dear friend of ours, Pilates instructor, is a knitter. So we go to a knitting store, and there's a whole table of all these knitters, and they're just hanging out. And Andrea's like, "We can just go talk to them." And I'm, "I don't... are we allowed to go talk to them?" And then the first thing someone says, "Are you knit worthy?" Remember that? "Are you knit worthy?" And I was, "I don't know." If I was an aspiring knitter, I can tell you right now that I didn't feel welcome. I felt anxiety. But the other people, "Oh, don't let her get to you. You can sit down here." But I didn't know the etiquette of walking into a knit place. And so, when you are a beginner, there is an anxiety about how do I join? What's the etiquette? Do I have enough skills to be here? Am I allowed to sit here? Can I sit there? And she explained that you're scared because you just don't know how to enter the space. And I think it's really important to acknowledge that when we're beginners at things, we're allowed to have some fear, you know. Brad Crowell 16:15  100%. I mean, it's just natural. It's part of it. It's like getting on stage the first time you're on stage. Your throat is parched. You're completely freaking out inside, but it just takes practice. The more you do it, the less you're in that headspace. Yeah. But also, too.Lesley Logan 16:32  You play jazz, right? You play jazz.Brad Crowell 16:35  I played jazz. It's been a long time.Lesley Logan 16:37  But there are sessions. There's times when people get together to just play, and then there are times people can join in, right?Brad Crowell 16:43  Yes. So I'm going to talk a little bit more about that when I share what I really loved about this conversation. But yes, in the jazz world, it's called a jam session, right? And you hear musicians, "Let's get together and jam." I generally hate a jam session when it's not jazz music, honestly. It was interesting to hear her talk about the different levels of learning and the different layers of how people interact in a jam session. Because when I was younger, when I was studying jazz and I was performing, I play the trombone, for all of you who don't know. I started playing in fourth grade, and I went all the way through college studying very intentionally on the trombone. And I was really good at the time, really, really good. I wasn't ever recording on the trombone because what I was really passionate about was playing the bass and singing. So even though I was really good on the trombone, that wasn't really where my heart was at the time. When I was playing it in college, you'd get together with people, and if they were not that good on their instrument or they hadn't had a lot of experience playing with other people in a space where you're listening to other people, then you don't know what to do. And this is a perfect parallel. Have you ever been in a conversation where someone only talks about themselves?Lesley Logan 18:06  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:06  The whole fucking time.Lesley Logan 18:08  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:08  And they never ask a reciprocating question.Lesley Logan 18:11  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:12  It's not a back-and-forth.Lesley Logan 18:13  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:14  Yeah. Musicians can do that too. They can just take over.Lesley Logan 18:17  Well, and I think to wrap up my point, what I love is just like she says, once you learn the rules and the etiquette, the anxiety can disappear because you know what the rules are. I think a lot of times some of us are afraid to be beginners, and then we don't ever get to figure out what the rules are, so we never feel like we can be a beginner. But if you know what the rules are, then you know where you can play, right? I think, in a non-musical example, I get people who want to be on this podcast all the time. They're like, "We should do a pod swap." They pitch me. I'm okay. I love the balls. I love that confidence. They have 10 episodes. I have 700. I appreciate the invite, but that's not a mutual thing. I'm bringing so much more expertise. They're not going to have the conversation I want to have with 700 episodes with their 10. Or maybe they have a whole other following. They could back that up. Maybe they're up-and-coming. But really, no offense to them, it's not like they are below, but they actually need to go get experience with other people with 10 episodes, coming over here is not really going to be helpful for them because they don't really, you have to have experience to play. Like in Pilates, I absolutely love taking sessions from people who've been teaching for decades, right? But I'm not going to be, "Oh, you want to do a trade, Jay? Sandy, should we trade?" No. Not that I can't teach them something, but really it's not an equal exchange of information.Brad Crowell 19:37  Yeah, I mean, this rolls straight into one of the things I loved about the conversation. She was talking about the etiquette of joining sessions as a newbie or a beginner. She said it's a very gentle process where you're kind of coming into it in a gentle way, and the anxiety of it and the, you have to be self-aware enough to know that you are easing your way in. For me, the easy parallel is growing up in a large family where I had lots of aunts and uncles and thinking about Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas dinner or something where everyone came over and they had the kids' table and they had the adults, right? And the kids' table, their conversation was generally about kid stuff, but I always ended up gravitating toward the adult table. And when I would get there, I had nothing to contribute to the conversation because I was 12, right? What do I know? I don't know anything about anything. But I'm listening to the adults talk about adult things, which I didn't even know what they were talking about. Didn't matter. I didn't have anything to contribute, so I didn't say anything, right? So when I was mentioning earlier, sometimes people can be in conversations where they 100% dominate the conversation, and it's not a conversation; it's one-sided. Alternatively, the other side of that is never contributing to a conversation and not having the confidence to speak up. And a lot of people never get past that, right? Even imagine if I was 12, then 15, then 18, and I'm still sitting at the adult table, but I'm not talking. I'm not participating in the conversation. I'm still taking it all in, but why am I not contributing back, right? So there's these two sides of the fence there. Lesley Logan 21:19  There's two extremes, and there's allowing yourself to be an observer because you're new to that table, and then at some point, you got to shit or get off the pot.Brad Crowell 21:27  Yeah, that's right. At some point, you actually have to participate. Lesley Logan 21:30  And I think where it happens is there has to be someone at that table who also invites you in. Brad Crowell 21:33  Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:34  Remember the knitting table we started with? That woman who was, "Are you knit worthy?" I was, "I don't think so." I don't think I even replied to her. But then there was, "Oh, come sit down! Don't let her scare you!" Right?Brad Crowell 21:45  That's right.Lesley Logan 21:45  There needs to be someone who is aware of all the dynamics, who can be the guide.Brad Crowell 21:51  Yeah.Lesley Logan 21:51  You know, and so then you attach yourself to the guide, and you allow the guide to show you what's going on, what's the appropriate behavior here. We're watching The Pitt again, you guys. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. There's so much nuance to The Pitt. I love it so much. Dynamics, everything, everything. I can apply science of learning to The Pitt. All these different things, right? And that Mel King, bless her soul, her character just speaks in my heart. But she's going to high-five people after they save a guy's life, and no one high-fives her because that's not the etiquette. It's not what you do. It's your first day, babe. You're in their third hour, right? And so she's, "Oh, okay." She sits down. So she's trying to observe what the behavior is and trying to learn how to fit in. And it takes time. You're going to get it wrong. And that's the thing. You are going to fuck up at some point. You are going to think that you're invited in and you're doing the right thing. But actually, they changed the rules last week, and they moved it half an hour. And that doesn't make you a bad person. You just got to have self-awareness, you know, and then also a little gumption.Brad Crowell 22:50  Yeah, and I think, you know, thinking back to etiquette of joining a session as a newbie or beginner, it is valuable to sit at the kids' table when you're a kid so that you can have conversations with your peers, and then you learn something from that so that when you do move to the adults' table, you have some understanding of just how conversation works. So in the same way, with music. Lesley Logan 23:11  I think it's good to outgrow the kids' table because, yes, then you can recognize that you were the guide at the kids' table, and now you're over at the adults' table, so you can spot who the guide is over there. You know, I think it's good to have the experiences.Brad Crowell 23:24  Yeah, and that's definitely how it works with jazz and jamming. It's important to work with people who are, well, I mean, you talked about this specifically with Tara, the people who are where you once were, people who are where you are at now, and the people who are where you want to be, you know, so that you can be a guide, you can have fun with your peers, you can learn from someone who is where you want to be. And so, for example, here in Las Vegas, once a week I go to a local bar. They host a jam night, and it's a jazz jam night, and they encourage people to sit in. Bring your instrument, come play. We'll always welcome you in. You can always play for a tune or whatever. And then generally, what they'll do is they'll let you name the tune so that you have the confidence. "Okay, I know this song."Lesley Logan 24:16  Oh, I love that.Brad Crowell 24:16  You know, and then basically they all know all the songs. These guys are pro musicians. They're absolutely incredibly well-versed, and if they don't know the song, they can figure out the song in the moment. They're amazing, right? And so it's actually really intimidating because, especially if you're a newbie playing with a crew like that, those guys are the pros, right? And so it's great experience, but it's also like you're not really in their circle. You know what I mean?Lesley Logan 24:44  No. I do love how they approach that. I love that because they're actually saying, "Okay, you've been sitting here long enough. We can see that you're jamming with us. You're tipping your head to the beat or your foot to the beat. You can do something. You pick the song." So they're allowing you to have confidence in what you're going to do. And then they get to invite you in, and then after that they never have to again, or you get to keep coming. You broke the seal. It makes me think of David Doss as well. Remember when David Doss played at the Horse Trailer Hideout, and he noticed you were whistling, and then he's like, "Do you know the song?" He invited you in.Brad Crowell 25:14  Yeah.Lesley Logan 25:15  Because you have done karaoke, and you've been in bands, and you've toured as a singer. The stage doesn't scare you, but he does that with people all the time, and often they are not performers. Brad Crowell 25:26  Right. Often they're not. Lesley Logan 25:27  But he is allowing them to pick a song that they can do well. And I think that's just something for those of us, I think we all can take the application of etiquette and things like that to everything. I have people I go to learn from because they challenge me, right? There are people I challenge, and then there are people that I challenge to challenge people below. We all have to be doing that. Otherwise, first of all, the people that I go to, they go to people. Why? Because if they are not learning from other people, they're not going to be a good teacher for me. So I think we can all recognize where we are as the person who is the expert in one room, but maybe we're a beginner in this room. And how can we make sure that we're moving along, but we're also moving other people along? We can't always be the guide. At some point, we have to pass the torch.Brad Crowell 26:11  Yeah, you're right. You're right on the money on that. It is important to set yourself up to be a guide for the next generation coming along. There's one other thing I wanted to mention about the conversation before I moved on, and that is about the skill of listening and responding to others in a musical context, but also in a conversation. For example, I just did it. I acknowledged what you said, and then I changed the topic. Right? When I was in college, I don't even know how I met this professor, but he said, "Hey, I want you to come audition for this class. You can't just join the class; you have to audition for the class." I was, "Okay." So I didn't even know what that meant. He didn't give me anything to prepare. I didn't know what was going on, so I just brought a bunch of music with me that I could play. And he was like, "All right, cool. I want you to play this thing," and I just played it. And he was, "Okay, cool. Now I'm going to play this on my guitar, and I want you to play along with me." And then we did. And then he's like, "I'm going to let you lead, and then I'm going to play along with you." And I was, "Okay." And we did this half-hour audition, right? And afterwards, he asked me a few questions, and he invited me to join this class. And literally this entire class was what he taught was the art of listening, right? And it wasn't what the class was even called. I can't remember what it was called. It was an unbelievable class. And this guy is one of the most astounding musicians I've ever met. He could hear an entire song and then write the song down afterwards in musical notation. He had.Lesley Logan 27:41  That's a crazy memory.Brad Crowell 27:42  It was perfect memory and perfect pitch. He could listen to a song and understand exactly what was happening. He could see it and write it out. Lesley Logan 27:48  What a savant!Brad Crowell 27:49  Yeah, savant, completely. But what he did in that class was so awkward because there was no music. There was no jam. You didn't have a rhythm that you were playing to. He took our class and he said, "All right, today in class we've got a French horn, two guitars, a bass. We got a guy playing the timbale, which is a weird drum that is amazing, and we got a trombone player, and then there's a guitar player. So go." We're, "What do you mean, go?" And he's, "Someone can start playing, and then if you feel inspired by what they're playing, I want you to play off of what they're playing. And then other people are going to jump in, and they're going to play, and then you're going to play, and together it will turn into something." And we were, "What the hell?"Lesley Logan 28:35  Every day for a whole semester?Brad Crowell 28:37  Not every day. It was once or twice a week. I can't remember. But it became one of my favorite classes to go to. And he told us, "You're never allowed to record this class. This class is not about turning this into a song. That's not what this is. What we're doing here is we're listening to each other, and we're responding based on what we're listening to." It was amazing. Unbelievable.Lesley Logan 28:56  That's cool. By the way, based on the science of learning, that's exactly what you're supposed to do. You just throw people in, and then they have to start swimming.Brad Crowell 29:03  Yeah.Lesley Logan 29:04  If you don't, you just start drowning. So somebody feels the pressure enough to go, "Fuck it, okay?" And then other people are like, "Well, I don't want them to be alone," so they jump in. And then what happens is you start taking the knowledge that you have, the skill sets, and you start applying it to your long-term memory. It comes out of short-term memory. It moves into long-term memory because you're forced to hit recall because you're not actually reading any music. When you read music, you can leave that stuff in short-term memory and let it go. It switches to long-term because you're forced to listen and apply something that you've learned that could fit. It's fucking brilliant.Brad Crowell 29:37  Yeah. People have told me over the years, "Brad, when we're in a conversation, I feel like you're really listening to me," and I genuinely attribute that to this class.Lesley Logan 29:46  I would say you definitely do that better than I do on every day.Brad Crowell 29:49  Yeah, because I had to. I learned how to do that in the class, and now it's just part of it, you know. So anyway, just the art of listening and how do you listen and how do you participate in a group like that? How do you encourage and respond? And sometimes you're taking the lead. Sometimes you're not taking the lead.Lesley Logan 30:07  I think this whole thing you can apply to anything you want to do. Brad Crowell 30:10  Yep.Lesley Logan 30:10  Because everything is with people. So anyways, we have to wrap it up. Brad Crowell 30:14  I love it. Sorry, I got really excited about this episode. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 30:21  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Tara Connaghan? She emphasized that time and consistency are the only true replacements for convenience in the learning process. Okay. Time and consistency are the only true replacements for convenience in the learning process. What does that actually mean? What is she talking about when we say convenience in the learning process?Lesley Logan 30:48  I think you've got to make learning easier. You have to not only do it for some time, but also consistently. So, for example, I'm doing the upLift Beta program right now. There's one person who, at the time of 30 days, has had halfway to 100 hours already, right? So that is time and consistency. They're picking up different things versus some people who only have nine. Now, I'm not saying one's better than the other. Actually, they're observing different things. But if you are only picking up something one hour once a week, you are going to have a harder time as the learning continues because you're having to restart and remember everything once a week versus if you were to even do 15 minutes every single dayBrad Crowell 31:27  Yeah.Lesley Logan 31:27  It might even be the same amount of time from the one time a week to the seven times a week. But because you have the consistency of picking it up, you're actually having more convenience.Brad Crowell 31:36  Yeah. She specifically said you don't build it up in one go; you build it up every single day. And it's more valuable to have 10 to 15 minutes a day than it is to do an hour once a week.Lesley Logan 31:46  It's the same, by the way, guys. This applies to everything. I do not write one newsletter at a time. I write all of them. I do not do one podcast at a time. We do several because the setup, the getting ready, all that stuff. It allows you. It's just better. So just be more consistent. You put it all together. You'll get there.Brad Crowell 32:02  I mean, Pilates and music, it's so much muscle memory, you know. And you can't cram muscle memory. It doesn't work. Motor learning does not work. She was equating it to brushing your teeth. You do it twice a day, forever. You've been doing it forever. So it gets to the point where it's rote. You don't even think about it anymore because you've done it so many times. You know how to do it without actually processing it. You can think about something else while you're doing that. She said, "How do you do this? How do you make sure that you get your 10 to 15 minutes a day in?" She said, "Keep your instrument in easy reach. Make it visible."Lesley Logan 32:36  Yeah, whatever your instrument is.Brad Crowell 32:38  Yeah.Lesley Logan 32:38  I love that.Brad Crowell 32:38  What about you?Lesley Logan 32:39  She said, "Pick the thing that fills your cup and go for it."Brad Crowell 32:42  Yeah, just in life.Lesley Logan 32:43  Yeah, in life, pick the thing that fills your cup and go for it. Do the thing that really gives you so much joy and fills your cup. And I think this is really important. A lot of times, a lot of us are focused on the thing we don't do well, and they're like, "Why can't I get this?" And there are people who can get that for you. I was coaching someone today for Profitable Pilates, and she's not good at tech, but I don't have an online business, right? And so I'm listening to her whole thing she's working on, and she's doing all the right things according to all the right coaches. Then it comes out she needs nine clients, and I was like, "Girl, you don't need to be online for these nine clients for your online business. You could just tell 27 people what you do and then ask them to refer you, and I bet you'll get nine people. At worst, you get three. Yes, those three people refer you three people." But you do not need to pick the thing that you're not good at to make this business work. You need to pick the thing that you're good at and make this business work. So it applies to everything. Pick the thing that fills your cup, and then do that thing because when you fill your cup, everything is easier, including being in rooms that scare you. So yeah, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 33:44  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 33:45  Thanks so much for being here today. Make sure that you tell Tara what touched you, what made you think of something, what aha moments you had. Send in your wins to the beitpod.com/questions, and we'll see you later. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 33:57  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 33:58  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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