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We have seen an extraordinary change in attitudes towards gay and lesbian people over the last half century in the West. Within living memory, homosexuality was criminalised. Now, same-sex couples can get married and share custody of children. This is nothing short of a moral revolution. Plenty of progressives think, not only that this change was inevitable, but also that further liberalisation is inevitable. My guests today are not so sure. They note that, for the first time in a long time, younger people on average are less accepting of homosexuality than are slightly older people. Perhaps this is a result of immigration patterns. Perhaps it's a result of strategic errors made by activists. I'm joined by three people who all agree that something has gone wrong, although they disagree – subtly – on exactly how and why. Ronan McCrea is professor of constitutional and European law at University College London and the author of 'The End of the Gay Rights Revolution: How Hubris and Overreach Threaten Gay Freedom.' Matthew Vines the the Founder and Executive Director of The Reformation Project and the author of 'God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships.'And Julie Bindel is a journalist, broadcaster, author, and the co-founder and co-director of The Lesbian Project.All of these guests share a concern that the wins of the gay rights movement are very fragile. There is a very real possibility that we will look back on the early twenty-first century as an historical blip – a brief moment of victory that was squandered. We ask how that fate might be avoided. Discussed in the show: 'The End of the Gay Rights Revolution: How Hubris and Overreach Threaten Gay Freedom''God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships' 'Lesbians: Where are we now?' The Lesbian Project podcast Stephen Ireland news storyMy interview with Darel E. Paul Operation Spanner Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Send us a textFor far too many LGBTQ+ people, religion has been used as a weapon–a source of shame, exclusion, and deep spiritual wounds. Many have been told they are “incompatible with scripture,” and some have left their faith communities altogether just to protect their own well-being. Today In the Den, Sara sits down with Reformation Project founder Matthew Vines, who offers an invitation to re-read the Bible with fresh eyes, to separate tradition from truth, and to imagine a church where everyone is welcomed without condition.Special Guest: Matthew VinesMatthew Vines is the Founder and Executive Director of The Reformation Project and the author of God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships. He lives in Dallas, Texas. Matthew attended Harvard University from 2008 to 2010. He then took a leave of absence in order to research the Bible and same-sex relationships. In March 2012, Matthew gave a speech at a church in his hometown of Wichita, Kansas, about the Bible and same-sex relationships, calling for acceptance of gay Christians and their marriage relationships. The video of the speech was viewed more than a million times on YouTube, leading to a feature story in The New York Times that fall. In 2013, Matthew launched The Reformation Project, a Bible-based, Christian non-profit organization that works to advance an orthodox and affirming vision for the church while remaining grounded in a love for God, a love for the Bible, and a love for the church. The Reformation Project hosts a variety of events, including a conference, a Parents in Process group, a Pastors in Process group, and leadership training cohorts.Links from the Show:God and the Gay Christian: https://bookshop.org/p/books/god-and-the-gay-christian-the-biblical-case-in-support-of-same-sex-relationships-matthew-vines/6425211?ean=9781601425188&next=t Find more about Matthew here: https://matthewvines.com/about/Matthew's speech on gay Christians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQjNJUSraY The Reformation Project: http://www.reformationproject.org/ New York Times article on Matthew's speech: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/fashion/matthew-vines-wont-rest-in-defending-gay-christians.html Join Mama Dragons here: www.mamadragons.orgIn the Den is made possible by generous donors like you. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today at www.mamadragons.org. Support the showConnect with Mama Dragons:WebsiteInstagramFacebookDonate to this podcast
Have a comment? Send us a text! (We read all of them but can't reply). Email us: Will@faithfulpoliticspodcast.comCan the Bible affirm same-sex relationships without compromising its authority?More than half of LGBTQ youth raised in non-affirming Christian households report suicidal thoughts, according to The Trevor Project. In this timely and vulnerable conversation, Matthew Vines—author of God and the Gay Christian and founder of The Reformation Project—joins Will and Josh to explore the moral, theological, and pastoral implications of excluding LGBTQ people from covenantal love.Raised in an evangelical church, Matthew shares his deeply personal story of coming out, challenging the “clobber verses,” and making a theologically conservative case for full LGBTQ inclusion. The conversation also unpacks celibacy mandates, biblical context vs. timeless principles, and how churches can (and can't) offer belonging without affirmation.Josh remains non-affirming, but open. The result is a rare, emotionally intelligent dialogue that refuses easy answers—and models what truth-seeking looks like across deep difference.Guest BioMatthew Vines is the author of God and the Gay Christian and founder of The Reformation Project, a nonprofit dedicated to advancing LGBTQ inclusion in the church while upholding biblical authority. A Harvard-trained theologian turned advocate, Vines is known for articulating an affirming theology rooted in evangelical hermeneutics and traditional biblical scholarship.God and the Gay Christian (Amazon)https://www.amazon.com/God-Gay-Christian-Biblical-Relationships/dp/1601425163The Reformation Project Websitehttps://reformationproject.org/Matthew Vines on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@ReformationProject Support the show
Ten years ago, at just 24 years old, Matthew Vines published God and the Gay Christian, a book that would challenge centuries of church teaching and ignite a movement. In this episode, Matthew reflects on the past decade: the backlash, the breakthroughs, and the communities that have formed around the idea that you can be fully gay and fully Christian.https://matthewvines.com/
Text us your questions!Matthew Vines returns to discuss how the revised edition of his book addresses critiques from prominent theologians, the distinction between affirming theology and queer theology, and the possibility of affirming, orthodox Christianity.Matthew unpacks the scholarly consensus that modern sexual orientation concepts simply didn't exist in biblical times—a fact many prominent theologians like NT Wright dismiss without substantial engagement. This historical disconnect creates profound implications for how we interpret biblical passages addressing same-sex relationships.The discussion takes an interesting turn when Matthew articulates a strong critique of queer theology, distinguishing it from his own affirming theological stance. He argues that queer theory's categorical opposition to all normative structures actually harms LGBTQ+ acceptance by creating an antagonistic "us versus them" narrative rather than one of shared values and inclusion.We also explore Christian sexual ethics more broadly, with Matthew making the compelling case that monogamy and covenant faithfulness remain valuable principles with profound theological significance. He explains how Christianity's sexual ethic was actually liberating in the ancient world, especially for women and enslaved people who had previously been treated as property without sexual agency.The conversation concludes with Matthew sharing the mission of The Reformation Project—his organization dedicated to equipping Christians to advocate for LGBTQ+ inclusion while maintaining orthodox Christian beliefs. By modeling how affirmation and biblical commitment can coexist, they're challenging the false narrative that accepting LGBTQ+ people necessarily leads to theological liberalism.Topics covered in this episode include:• How ancient and modern understandings of sexuality are fundamentally different, with sexual orientation being a modern concept• The two main schools of thought in sexuality studies that emerged in the 1970s: social constructionism (Foucault) and essentialism (Boswell)• NT Wright and Preston Sprinkle's claims about ancient sexuality• Matthew's response to criticisms of his interpretation of Matthew 7 regarding "good and bad fruit"• The role of Christian sexual ethics in liberating vulnerable populations by restricting sexual activity to marriage• How queer theology differs from affirming theology in its rejection of all norms as inherently oppressive=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!
Through his work with the Reformation Project, and his book God and the Gay Christian, Matthew Vines captures the essence of a journey shared by millions managing the complex intersection of faith and sexual identity.In a political climate where White Christian Nationalism increasingly scapegoats LGBTQ people for societal ills, Vines offers something revolutionary: a thoughtful framework for understanding Scripture that upholds its authority while making room for affirming theology. Through meticulous examination of historical context, he demonstrates how the same-sex behaviors condemned in Scripture were fundamentally different from the loving, committed relationships we recognize today.Drawing fascinating parallels to how Christians reinterpreted biblical teachings on slavery and charging interest, Vines shows how contextual understanding isn't compromising faith—it's deepening it. "The reason same-sex behaviors were condemned in Scripture are very different than the types of same-sex relationships we're talking about today," he explains. We discuss Pope Francis's legacy of inclusion and the challenges within evangelicalism, where reform seems simultaneously impossible and inevitable. Vines suggests that effective change comes not through flashy redesigns of church with pride flags everywhere, but through communities that fully include LGBTQ people while keeping "the main thing the main thing"—following Jesus.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Text us your questions!Matthew Vines is here to discuss the revised and expanded edition of his influential book God and the Gay Christian, marking eleven years since its initial release. The book sent shockwaves through evangelical Christianity and remains a powerful and compelling case for an affirming reading of the Bible for those who want to hold onto biblical authority (if you're counting, that's exactly one of the hosts of this podcast).Matthew shares the backstory behind the book, including how he took a semester off from Harvard to come out to his parents and how he spent months studying the Bible and reading ex-gay literature with his dad. That process ultimately changed his dad's mind and started the trajectory to this book.The heart of our conversation concerns Matthew's case for reading the Bible in an affirming way. He draws a fascinating parallel with how Christians approached biblical prohibitions against charging interest (usury) for 1,500 years—until John Calvin recognized that while Scripture categorically condemned the practice, its underlying moral logic was about protecting the vulnerable from exploitation. Similarly, Matthew argues, we must understand what same-sex behavior meant in ancient times before we can draw parallels to current practices and understandings.Matthew is articulate and thoughtful and approaches the issue with a great respect for the Bible and for his interlocutors. (The new edition of the book includes new sections responding to some of his critics!)This conversation ran so deep that we had to split it into two episodes! Stay tuned for Part 2.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!
What if celibate people are really just repressing their sexuality? Or the Bible writers banned same-sex sex because they couldn't imagine a modern, egalitarian, consensual marriage?Join TJ (social science researcher) and David (communitarian vibes) as they name 7 “myths” of sex, celibacy, marriage, and love, and talk about LGBTQ flourishing for Christians.Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, Y) as shorthand quite a bit. If you're new to the conversation, you might find it helpful to check out episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: #3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality—★ Timestamps(00:00) #61 - 7 Myths of Side A: On Sex, Love, and Marriage for LGBTQ Christians(03:19) Myth #1: Celibacy equals sexual repression or misery(10:29) Myth #2: The Bible writers only banned gay sex because they couldn't imagine consensual, egalitarian same-sex monogamous relationships(15:32) Myth #3: Marriage is the only committed covenant relationship(23:17) Myth #4: Colonialist European Christianity is the source of homophobia around the globe(31:06) Myth #5: A sexual ethic is just a personal decision(36:33) Myth #6: Love trumps everything(42:20) Myth #7: Sexual ethics are minor differences among Christians(53:25) Summing up—★ Links and References* Bill White in the New York Times: “How My Dad Reconciled His God and His Gay Son.” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/02/05/opinion/coming-out-evangelical-pastor.html?unlocked_article_code=1.u04.SZiC.MDfFGLX6HWTO&smid=url-share* Wendell Berry, **“Sex, Economy, Freedom, and Community,” (2018). https://www.counterpointpress.com/books/sex-economy-freedom-community/* John Pike, “Were loving, faithful same-sex relations known in antiquity?” https://www.psephizo.com/sexuality-2/were-loving-faithful-same-sex-relations-known-in-antiquity/* Preston Sprinkle, “Did Consensual Same-Sex Sexual Relationships Exist in Biblical Times? A Response to Matthew Vines,” (August 30, 2022). https://www.centerforfaith.com/blog/did-consensual-same-sex-sexual-relationships-exist-in-biblical-times-a-response-to-matthew—★ Send us feedback, questions, comments, and support!Email: communionandshalom@gmail.com | Instagram: @newkinship | Substack: @newkinship | Patreon: @newkinship—★ CreditsCreators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson, carlswensonmusic.com | Podcast Manager: Elena F. | Graphic Designer: Gavin Popken, gavinpopkenart.com ★ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newkinship.substack.com
Greg talks to Sean McDowell, author of End the Stalemate, about how cancel culture developed, communicating ideas well to others, dealing with your own biases, being charitable, steelmanning your opponent's arguments, and more. Topics: Interview: Sean McDowell, author of End the Stalemate: Move Past Cancel Culture to Meaningful Conversations (00:00) Mentioned on the Show: End the Stalemate: Move Past Cancel Culture to Meaningful Conversations by Sean McDowell Greg Koukl and Michael Shermer at the End of the Decade of the New Atheists – Debate transcript Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines on the Bible and Homosexuality – Video of the debate Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview by J.P. Moreland and William Lane Craig Street Smarts: Using Questions to Answer Christianity's Toughest Challenges by Greg Koukl Related Links: Proverbs for Apologists by Amy Hall
“I'm afraid I'm going to hell because I'm not attracted to men. Please give me an unbiased interpretation of Romans 1.” We received this question from a young woman, M.V. This podcast was created by one of Google's newest AI engines, NotebookLM. (https://notebookLM.google.com) We gave NotebookLM M.V.'s question and these six quotes: 1. Justin Lee, from the book: “Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate”: “Paul's writings in Romans 1 are about people who turned away from God and engaged in lustful, excessive behaviors. This is different from a loving, committed same-sex relationship.” 2. Janet Edmonds who I have quoted frequently in this series, says in part: “The behavior Paul (…author of the book of Romans…) was addressing here is explicitly associated with idol worship (probably temple prostitution…' “In the surrounding culture it was common for men of a higher status to take sexual advantage of male slaves or male prostitutes…” “The laws at the time in Rome allowed a master to demand sexual services from any slave, male or female” “Paul was not talking about homosexuality and didn't have in mind specifically prohibiting consensual same-sex relationships.” 3. Matthew Vines, in his book “God and the Gay Christian”: says “Paul's references to ‘unnatural' relations in Romans 1:26-27 are often misunderstood. He was addressing specific cultural practices of his time, not committed, loving same-sex relationships as we understand them today.” 4. Rev. Dr. Mel White, Book: “What the Bible Says—and Doesn't Say—about Homosexuality”: “Romans 1:26-27 must be read in the context of the entire chapter, which condemns idolatry and excessive lust, not loving same-sex relationships.” 5. Kathy Baldock, in her book “Walking the Bridgeless Canyon”: “Paul's use of ‘natural' and ‘unnatural' in Romans 1 reflects the cultural norms of his time, not a universal condemnation of same-sex relationships.” 6. James Brownson, “Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church's Debate on Same-Sex Relationships”: “Romans 1, 26 and 27 addresses behaviors that were seen as dishonorable and excessive, not the loving, committed relationships we see today.” For more information about NotebookLM: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LMPb9JJnosPj8SPVRSF9z?si=rrOjkTrAR0eGO0Otrv5zfg&t=1466&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A44fllCS2FTFr2x2kjP9xeT
In this episode, Tim sits down with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project to discuss Rosaria Butterfield's problematic anti LGBTQ+ theology, and her impact on the larger conservative Christian culture. Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you've been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We've built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rebecca McLaughlin is joined by her friend, Justine, who recently got baptized to answer some questions submitted by listeners!Questions Covered in This Episode:Do you have any advice for a first-time mom trying to keep up and stay connected to the church during the first six weeks? Any thoughts on how to practically lead a discipleship group for new moms?How should we understand passages like 1 Corinthians 14:33-36 or 1 Timothy 2:11-12 that say women should learn in silence?Why is the church referred to as “she;” is the church not the body of Christ?Will you respond to Matthew Vines's book “God and the Gay Christian”?Do you think it's important to have specific study groups for women in the church or do you find it more edifying to have men and women together to study? Any resources you would recommend?Do you think the command to “be fruitful and multiply” still applies to Christians today? What are your thoughts about Christian couples deferring having children?Do you think the Old Testament law applies to believers today? If so, in what way?Resources Mentioned:Isaiah 49:15, 1 Corinthians 14:33-36, 1 Timothy 2:11-12, Ephesians 5, Genesis 1:28, Matthew 28:18-20Knowing Faith“Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” by Rebecca McLaughlin“Jesus Through the Eyes of Women” by Rebecca McLaughlinSponsors:To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website.Follow Us:Instagram | TwitterOur Sister Shows:Knowing Faith | The Family Discipleship Podcast | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Confronting Christianity is a podcast of Training the Church. For ad-free episodes and more content check out our Patreon.
A new documentary entitled 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted Culture claims that the mistranslation of a word in the 1946 Revised Standard Version Bible led to the rampant “homophobia” that now infects the Church. In the film, a Bible researcher and an author claim that a Greek word found in 1 Corinthians 6:9 should not have been translated “homosexuality.” Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality … will inherit the kingdom of God. The film claims that the word translated to “homosexuality” is a compound Greek word that combines the concept of an effeminate man with a man sharing a bed with another man. Though that sounds exactly like the definition of “homosexuality,” scholars in the film assure viewers that a “historical context” is being missed, and Paul was condemning sexual predation and pederasty rather than homosexuality. This claim is not new, nor is it or the film “groundbreaking,” as some have claimed. The normalization of homosexuality has long included efforts to square the behavior with biblical morality. These efforts have taken various forms, such as appealing to the “truly loving God” who “would never” require people to deny their desires; or claiming a moral trajectory to the Bible so that prohibitions against homosexuality no longer apply. Of course, some simply reject the Bible as no longer relevant to our lives, while others employ this strategy of claiming the Scriptures were mistranslated. What is clear from how often these arguments surface, how quickly they are embraced, and how passionately they are defended is that many people really, really wish that the Bible said something different about homosexuality than it does. Also clear is how unprepared many Christians are to respond to the latest reincarnation of one of these arguments, even when they are obviously untrue or, well, silly. While it can be difficult to remain confident in our convictions as the truth grows more unpopular, shaken confidence typically leads to either an embarrassed silence or a loud anger. Either way, it leaves those who need the truth without it. This documentary is the latest example of pulling and positing arguments for LGBTQ affirmation out of thin air and then treating these arguments as legitimate. The trend began roughly 10 years ago, when Matthew Vines gave a speech in a Kansas church that went viral. Citing his personal struggles with same-sex attraction, Vines claimed that the Bible didn't prohibit homosexual activity, because it couldn't. If it did, he said, it would be too painful for gay people, and that pain would be the “bad fruit” about which Scripture warned. Despite a 2,000-year history of Christian belief, tradition, and exegesis to the contrary, many found Vines' assertions to be compelling, a fact that said far more about the sad state of Christian discipleship than his theology. Of course, twisting Scripture to justify belief or behaviors is not new. At no time until now did anyone attempt to claim that the Bible did anything but condemn homosexual acts, a historical fact that undermines the claim made in the documentary that Christian morality on this point dates back only several decades. At the same time, this historical consistency exposes just how serious a problem it is when Christians find these new assertions so compelling. With few exceptions, the questions and complexities of Christian theology have been thoroughly explored and settled. Most challenges to Christian belief and morality leveled by cynics and skeptics have been answered. There is, however, a dramatic gap between the answers that are there, and the answers Christians know. The result is that even absurd assertions, like the one made in this new documentary, confirm the beliefs of the already convinced and convince many who should know better but don't. In fact, the strangest assertion in this new documentary is not even the claim of mistranslation. It's the assertion that Christian opposition to homosexuality began in 1946. The opposite is, of course, true. Despite all the theological squabbles about all sorts of things among various Christian groups throughout Church history, only in recent days and only in a very narrow part of the Western world has anyone doubted that the Bible rejects homosexuality. Christians believe that God has revealed Himself in the world He made and in His Word. On this issue, both clearly tell the same story. In fact, they are the same story. Christians who know this will not be “tossed to and fro” by every wind of false doctrine or by the silly claims of a documentary. For more resources to live like a Christian in this cultural moment, go to breakpoint.org.
Greg talks to Alan Shlemon, who attended the Unconditional Conference at Andy Stanley's church, about the good and bad of what was taught there, how those who promote pro-gay theology viewed the conference, Alan's concerns, Andy Stanley's sermon explaining his position, etc. Topics: Interview: Alan Shlemon – Concerns about the Unconditional Conference (00:00) Mentioned on the Show: Andy Stanley's Unconditional Conference: Deep Dive Response – Sean McDowell's interview of Alan Shlemon A Reformation the Church Doesn't Need – Part 1 and Part 2 by Alan Shlemon and Greg Koukl Related Links: Alan Shlemon: Matthew Vines's Reformation Project Conference – Podcast Answering Matthew Vines's 40 Questions – Podcast A Response to Matthew Vines: The Bible Doesn't Support Same-Sex Relationships by Amy Hall Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines on the Bible and Homosexuality – Video Should We Downplay the “Clobber Passages” on Homosexuality? by Alan Shlemon
Back again, Christian Ashley and Joshua Noel continue their discussion on God and salvation with Thomas J. Oord. This time they are joined by Dr Oord's daughter, Alexa Oord, to discuss how Christians should love the LGBTQ+ community? Can you love queer people without being affirming? Can correction be loving? What does it mean to be queer? What does it mean to question "womanhood" or "manhood"? Is the Bible really clear about same-sex attraction? What does it mean to be queer? Does God prioritize healthy relationships? Can any relationship be a distraction from kingdom work? Why do some Christians say it's okay to be gay? Why do some Christians think it is a sin to be homosexual? What does LGBTQI mean? What does it mean to be affirming of same-sex marriages or the LGBTQ+ community? We discuss all this and much more in this episode! Join in our conversations on our Discord Server and Facebook group!.Go back and listen to our last conversation with Dr Oord:https://player.captivate.fm/episode/9abeb32e-d688-4655-92db-5d8435ae932e.Check out all of the books mentioned in this episode here:Matthew Vines' "God and the Gay Christian"Gregory Coles' "Single, Gay Christian"Kevin DeYoung's "What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality?"Thomas & Alexa Oord's "Why the Church of the Nazarene Should be Fully LGBTQ+ Affirming"Mentioned in this episode:Explicit WarningPost-Roll
Matthew Vines loves the church, cherishes God's word, and counts as precious the church communities to which he has and does belong. In fact, if you were to run into Vines at your church this weekend, it's probable that you would have a conversation just like any other Sunday morning discussion you are likely to have.That is, until you realize that Matthew Vines also founded and facilitates The Reformation Project, a ministry with the mission to encourage LGBTQ inclusion within the church. That's where the conversation is bound to get very interesting.Some studied estimates say that nearly 80% of members within the LGBTQ community have been or are invested in a church. Today's [Worldview Contrasts] episode of Kingdom Culture Conversations moves beyond debate to a genuine discussion that goes deeper than "Your side talks about these verses and our side talks about these verses." Matthew tells his story and talks about how and why The Reformation Project came to be. He also affords us the privileged opportunity to understand, without necessarily agreeing with, his convictions on homosexuality and the Bible. With honesty and transparency, we enjoy a two-part, robust discussion that identifies areas of consensus without either of us compromising our convictions. In the process, we attempt to model both civil discourse and the brotherly love that Jesus advocates for in John 13: "By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another."For more information on Matthew Vines, please visit this link.To learn about Vines' book "God and the Gay Christian", please follow this link.For more information about The Reformation Project, click here."Kingdom Culture Conversations" is a podcast created through Frameworks, a Biblical worldview initiative of Northwest Christian School.For more information on Frameworks, please visit: https://frameworks.ncsaz.org/For more information on Northwest Christian School, visit: https://www.ncsaz.org/To reach out to Geoff Brown, please email gbrown@ncsaz.org or you can reach him by cell phone: (623)225-5573.
Matthew Vines loves the church, cherishes God's word, and counts as precious the church communities to which he has and does belong. In fact, if you were to run into Vines at your church this weekend, it's probable that you would have a conversation just like any other Sunday morning discussion you are likely to have. That is, until you realize that Matthew Vines also founded and facilitates The Reformation Project, a ministry with the mission to encourage LGBTQ inclusion within the church. That's where the conversation is bound to get very interesting.Some studied estimates say that nearly 80% of members within the LGBTQ community have been or are invested in a church. Today's [Worldview Contrasts] episode of Kingdom Culture Conversations moves beyond debate to a genuine discussion that goes deeper than "Your side talks about these verses and our side talks about these verses." Matthew tells his story and talks about how and why The Reformation Project came to be. He also affords us the privileged opportunity to understand, without necessarily agreeing with, his convictions on homosexuality and the Bible. With honesty and transparency, we enjoy a two-part, robust discussion that identifies areas of consensus without either of us compromising our convictions. In the process, we attempt to model both civil discourse and the brotherly love that Jesus advocates for in John 13: "By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another."For more information on Matthew Vines, please visit this link.To learn about Vines' book "God and the Gay Christian", please follow this link.For more information about The Reformation Project, click here."Kingdom Culture Conversations" is a podcast created through Frameworks, a Biblical worldview initiative of Northwest Christian School.For more information on Frameworks, please visit: https://frameworks.ncsaz.org/For more information on Northwest Christian School, visit: https://www.ncsaz.org/To reach out to Geoff Brown, please email gbrown@ncsaz.org or you can reach him by cell phone: (623)225-5573.
Within Christian circles on the faith and sexuality, we (especially Side B people) spend a lot of time talking about different “sides” and where we stand. Some people think we shouldn't even talk about sides at all. While there may be merit to some of their objections, we still think it's a valuable way of framing things. This episode explains why we keep using “Side A” and “Side B”. We might give you some new ideas, might change your mind… or it might just give you more things to argue about with us. We welcome all of those! Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, and Y) as shorthand quite a bit. If you're new to the conversation (welcome!), you can totally join us for an insider conversation…but first you might find it helpful to check out Communion & Shalom episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: #3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality __________ Timestamps (00:57) Why did this topic come up? (04:40) What are the strengths of using "sides" language or framework? (09:33) Critiques of using "sides" language or frameworks (25:03) Critiques we find wisdom in (27:08) Alternatives: What other language besides "sides" could we use? (35:59) Is "sides" language sufficient for our moment? __________ Links and References Below are some names mentioned in this episode, which may help make this conversation easier to follow and look up. Saint Aelred - Wikipedia We mention Rosaria Butterfield on this episode, who represents “Side Y”. Matthew Vines represents a traditional “Side A” perspective. Tyler Sit was a guest on this podcast - Episode 13 Giacomo San Filippo was a guest on this podcast - Episode 17 __________ If you like this podcast, please consider… → Sharing feedback or questions! www.podpage.com/communion-shalom/contact → Supporting us on Patreon! patreon.com/communionandshalom → Following us on Instagram! @communionandshalom — Credits Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson (www.carlswensonmusic.com) Podcast Manager: Elena
The LGBTQ+ community has experienced so much in the way of harm. Much of this harm has come from Christians who are trying to uphold the historical biblical ethic on sexuality. How should followers of Jesus move forward? Today, Derek explores how Christians should relate to the LGBTQ+ community. There are a number of resources that are well worth your time to explore around the topic of Christianity and the LGBTQ+ community. Videos and websites: Jon Tyson message titled "Jesus and the Gay Community" https://youtu.be/QqF0MwqjuBU Pieter Valk's website https://www.pieterlvalk.com/ The Reformation Project https://reformationproject.org/ Spiritual Friendship https://spiritualfriendship.org/ Books: "People to be loved: Why homosexuality is not just an issue" by Preston Sprinkle https://a.co/d/9rxSlAn "God and the gay Christian: The biblical case for same-sex relationships" by Matthew Vines https://a.co/d/eg7MadS "Washed and waiting: Reflections on Christian faithfulness and homosexuality" by Wesley Hill https://a.co/d/4OmeOdI "Making Sense of Sex: Attitudes towards Sexuality in Early Jewish and Christian Literature" by William Loader https://a.co/d/iptsw7B "Slaves, Women & Homosexuals: Exploring the Hermeneutics of Cultural Analysis" by William Webb https://a.co/d/e5AbpoE "Two Views on Homosexuality, the Bible, and the Church" edited by Preston Sprinkle with multiple authors https://a.co/d/5m7gzbs "Sexuality in the New Testament: Understanding the Key Texts" by William Loader https://a.co/d/9AC0NmV If you'd like to connect with us or share a prayer request, feel free to fill out a connect card here: vineyardaltoona.churchcenter.com/people/forms/288405 We're always grateful for your continued financial support. To give securely online, you can visit this link: vineyardaltoona.churchcenter.com/giving Thanks so much for your continued support of Vineyard Altoona!
Some topics that CPCW covers are relevant to lot of parents and a lot of kids, but the topic of sexuality is relevant to ALL parents and ALL kids. We cannot escape this issue in our families and our friendship circles. So who defines our sexuality? Our celebrities, our politicians, our teachers and school administrators, our friends, our feelings… or God. If we want to call ourselves Christ followers, the answer to that question must be God because He designed our sexuality. And the parameters He places around it in His Word are not there to oppress us and deny our authentic selves. Those parameters exist to bless us and to bring us freedom. In part 2 of a 4-part series on sexuality, Catherine discusses the loving parameters that God places around our sexuality to protect us and how can we communicate Biblical sexuality to our kids. Joining her again is Erin Barry, an author, speaker, counselor, and educational consultant. Erin has bachelor's degree in education, a master's degree in counseling, and is working on her doctorate in Christian counseling with an emphasis on the topic of sexuality. Erin and her husband Brett are founders of The Home Educated Mind, a Christ-centered community dedicated to providing materials and support for Christian parents.You can find Erin's resources at: https://www.thehomeeducatedmind.com/.RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CONSULTED:“Holy Sexuality” by Christopher Yuan: https://bit.ly/3WhzyDl “God and the Gay Christian” by Matthew Vines: https://amzn.to/3DJmnUC “Assessing God and the Gay Christian” by Joe Dallas:Part 1: https://bit.ly/3SQu0g4 Part 2: https://bit.ly/3Fzjw1I “Love Your Neighbor Enough to Speak the Truth” (a Response to Jen Hatmaker) by Rosaria Butterfield: https://bit.ly/3feulM8 “Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters” by Abigail Shrier: https://bit.ly/3TSF2mm BOOKS ON DISCUSSING BIBLICAL SEXUALITY WITH YOUR KIDS: “How and When to Tell Your Kids about Sex: A Lifelong Approach to Shaping Your Child's Sexual Character” by Stan and Brenna Jones: https://bit.ly/3TSF2mm “The Talk: 7 Lessons to Introduce Your Child to Biblical Sexuality” by Luke Gilkerson: https://amzn.to/3ztXtpc SCRIPTURES REFERENCED:Genesis 1:27-28John 3:17Leviticus 18:22, 20:131 Corinthians 6:11
This is a Deep Dive into the book: A Rebel's Manifesto: Choosing Truth, Real Justice, and Love amid the Noise of Today's World by Sean McDowell.This is Part 4 of the Deep Dive: “Sexuality”0:35 - Rings of Power Finale comments3:14 - Lee Strobe's “A Case for Heaven” book comments5:30 - J.P. Moreland's “Scientism and Secularism” comments6:15 - back to the Deep Dive…6:40 - Topics covered this week7:43 - Sex9:45 - “The orders were for your protection…”12:30 - What if everyone followed Jesus' sexual ethic?14:10 - Comments on the purity movement and motivations17:45 - Homosexuality30:05 - Transgender ideology32:45 - Pornography40:38 - Abortion44:06 - Final commentsHelpful links:What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality? Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines in Conversationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFY4VtCWgyIRay Comfort Vs Matt Dillahunty | Does God Exist? DEBATEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRCbvfyiu0sScientism and Secularism: Learning to Respond to a Dangerous Ideology by J.P. Moreland - https://a315.co/3D2B6IqThe Case for Heaven by Lee Strobel - https://a315.co/3z7jUAJScott Klusendorf Interview on Abortionhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/veracityhill/scott-klusendorf-interviewBelfast Bigot interview on Abortionhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/veracityhill/014-abortion-and-the-belfast-bigotA Rebel's Manifesto Book:https://a315.co/RebelSean's McDowell's Website:www.seanmcdowell.orgWe appreciate your feedback.If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com
Sally Gary is founder and director of CenterPeace, a 501(c)(3) non-profit ministry dedicated to creating space for conversation about faith and sexuality. Growing up in Churches of Christ in the ‘60s & ‘70s, Sally has a great love for the spiritual heritage that first introduced her to Jesus and instilled in her a strong faith. But as a gay Christian, she knows firsthand the pain of wrestling with her own faith and sexuality, and how difficult it can be to stay connected to church, to Christianity, to God with no support from your faith community. This is what drives Sally's passion for CenterPeace, the ministry she founded in 2006 to create a place of belonging for LGBTQ+ Christians, encouraging them to hold onto faith and stay connected to God.For over 16 years, CenterPeace has been building community for sexual minorities, hosting online and in-person retreats and other resources for nurturing the faith of LGBTQ+ individuals. CenterPeace also hosts retreats for families of LGBTQ+ youth, and workshops for churches and schools, and other organizations to foster greater inclusion of the LGBTQ+ community. Since 2009, CenterPeace has hosted a national conference featuring keynote speakers such as Justin Lee and Matthew Vines. The conference has attracted thousands over the years – LGBTQ+ Christians, church leaders, parents, and allies – from across the globe, for the purpose of learning how to love and embrace the LGBTQ+ community in our midst and beyond.This year's CenterPeace Conference is in Dallas, Texas, at Wilshire Baptist – a fully open and affirming Baptist church – November 3 – 5. Jeff Chu of “Evolving Faith” is the featured keynote speaker, along with Justin and Matthew, Joel Hollier from Australia and Staci Frenes, singer/songwriter from Los Angeles. AND Rocky Roggio, director and creative genius behind the new film 1946, a documentary about mistranslation in Scripture.Sally holds bachelor's and master's degrees in communication from Abilene Christian University and a Doctor of Jurisprudence degree from Texas Tech University School of Law. A former high school speech and debate coach, trial lawyer and communication professor, Sally is a teacher at heart. Most of all, Sally is dedicated to serving queer youth, helping them know they are loved by God and that they always belong. Everywhere.The author of Affirming: A Memoir of Faith, Sexuality, and Staying in the Church, Sally currently resides in Dallas, Texas, with her wife, Karen, and their miniature dapple dachshund, Rudy.For more information about CenterPeace, visit centerpeace.net and follow on social media:Facebook – facebook.com/centerpeaceincInstagram - @centerpeaceinc
We're talking about 2 of Tom Taylor's series in modern DC comics, "Nightwing" and "Son of Kal-El"! Hosts Joshua Noel and Joe Dea discuss the story beats, the characters, and their relationship to one another! How can Christians read a comicbook about a gay superhero? Can a 'haven', like what Nightwing is building, truly exist on this side of heaven? How far can money take us to helping our societal issues? Is Nightwing a sidekick or the new Batman? Why does Clark Kent (aka Kal-El) trust Dick Grayson to watch over Jon Kent? What significance does Superman's boyfriend, Jay Nakamura, play in the over-arching story? What does it look like for a normal human like Dick to help mentor an alien with godlike abilities like Jon Kent? We discuss all this and way more! Let us know what you think of Tom Taylor's run on these characters on our website: systematicgeekology.org *When discussing human sexuality, Joshua and Joe both represent a more traditional, conservative Christian sexual ethic. After mentioning there is a diversity of views on this topic, Joshua mentioned a few books to help people acquaint themselves with these diverse views from within Christendom and he wanted to share the links to these books here (noting that he gave the wrong name for DeYoung's work in the episode): https://www.amazon.com/God-Gay-Christian-Biblical-Relationships-ebook/dp/B00F1W0RD2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3L92F84YE5F7A&keywords=god+and+the+gay+christian+by+matthew+vines&qid=1660060993&sprefix=god+and+the+%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-1 ("God and the Gay Christian", by Matthew Vines) https://www.amazon.com/Single-Gay-Christian-Personal-Identity-ebook/dp/B0751MPKK1/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1564IRNDDUXHN&keywords=single+gay+christian&qid=1660061058&sprefix=single+gay%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-3 ("Single, Gay Christian", by Gregory Cole) https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Really-Teach-about-Homosexuality-ebook/dp/B00U9MQVXO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=31JKADMNKYDA&keywords=homosexuality+kevin+deyoung&qid=1660061118&sprefix=homosexuality+kevin+deyoung%2Caps%2C53&sr=8-1 ("What Does the Bible Really Teach About Homosexuality?", by Kevin DeYoung)
Jonty and Ness crack open the Bible and dive into some of the most famous Bible verses that are used to talk about homosexuality to see what they actually say. We also hear from both Matthew Vines and Caleb Kaltenbach on these verses from a New York Times piece called Debating Bible Verses on Sexuality. Email us at filthyhopepod@gmail.comInstagramFacebookFacebook Discussion GroupCheck out our website: unitingheartandsoul.org Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Guest Host: J. Warner Wallace J. Warner Wallace talks about how the claims about Jesus are historical and can be tested (unlike claims about Peter Pan), then he answers a question about whether one should be happy that a child has entered into a homosexual relationship and is no longer depressed. Topics: Commentary: How the claims about Jesus differ from claims about Peter Pan (00:00) If my son, who recently told me he's bisexual, finds a man to be with and is no longer depressed, should I be happy that he's happy? (19:00) Mentioned on the Show: Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines on the Bible and Homosexuality Christopher Yuan Becket Cook Related Links: A Response to Matthew Vines: The Bible Doesn't Support Same-Sex Relationships by Amy Hall An Evaluation of the Dialogue between Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines Answering Matthew Vines's 40 Questions A Reformation the Church Doesn't Need Part 1 and Part 2 by Alan Shlemon Be Willing to Submit to Our Good God on the Issue of Homosexuality by Amy Hall What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung
On today's programme we looked at a recent talk done by Matthew Vines at the Reconcile and Reform Conference held by the Reformation Project.
On today's programme we looked at a recent talk done by Matthew Vines at the Reconcile and Reform Conference held by the Reformation Project.
On today's programme we looked at a recent talk done by Matthew Vines at the Reconcile and Reform Conference held by the Reformation Project. Megiddo Radio · #476 How LGBT "Christianity" Really Abandons Christianity Related: Megiddo Radio · #412 Matthew Vines Refuted on "LGBTQ Inclusion" Megiddo Radio · #149 Matthew Vines And 'Gay Christianity' Refuted
Quick, judge them! Throw stones! Condemn! Or ... listen as Jen and Steve talk through some of the compelling points made by Matthew Vines in his book God and the Gay Christian to realize that the Bible does not actually condemn same sex relationships. Jen and Steve discuss how even if you believe homosexuality is a sin, what good comes from your judgment? "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." -- Matthew 7:19 Keep the conversation going! Instagram & Twitter: jknapp_jk email: j4knapp1@gmail.com Facebook: Steve Knapp If you're enjoying RWC, it would mean so much to us if you'd share it with your friends and review it on your podcast platform. Thanks for the support!
Mathew Vines, author of God and the Gay Christian and founder of The Reformation Project joins us today. We talk about the church and why it still matters, not losing discipleship in the midst of reevaluating your beliefs, how you can hold onto a high view of Scripture while becoming affirming of Same-Sex Marriages and he tells us a little of the story of his recent engagement. At the end of the episode Matthew shares about a new video project, The Reformation Project has put together, exploring in more depth the biblical case for LGBTQ inclusion. Find that video project HERE
The Dear Godly Segment of this podcast has had an amazing response. In this episode I read some of the letters I've received and give advice. If you would like to submit a letter to be included in an upcoming episode please send it to godlygayinfo@gmail.com. Your identity will never be disclosed on-air or via any other platform. I look forward to hearing from you. Organization mentioned in this episode: The Reformation Project Book mentioned: God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines
How should a Christian relate to someone in their lives who is obviously living in sexual sin, without appearing to condone this marriage? Thankfully, God does not leave us without answers. As with every other issue in life, our thinking, our words, and our actions must be shaped by and in submission to the authority […]
In this conversation we talk about his new video curriculum, “The Biblical Case for LGBTQ Inclusion,” the authority of the Bible, and his desire to change hearts and minds.
Matthew Vines, seorang aktivis LGBT berargumen bahwa ayat-ayat didalam Alkitab yang melarang pernikahan homoseksual sebenarnya tidaklah bermaksud demikian. Justru sebaliknya, Alkitab mendukung hal ini. Apakah benar? Source : https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/05/us/samesex-scriptures.html
Let's dive into part 5 of "Outgrowing the Good Christian Girl!" Today we're talking with Matthew Vines, author of "God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case for Same Sex Relationships." Here are the questions we'll be talking about:1. What did you used to believe it meant to honor God with your sexuality? (@4:05)2. What was the fruit of seeing sexuality that way? (@13:10)3. Would you tell us about how you approach the Bible? (@16:05)4. Would you tell us why you wrote "God and the Gay Christian"? (@20:13)5. What would the words for "homosexuality" have meant to Bible readers in the early church? What did "homosexual behavior" look like at that time in history? (@26:43)6. Let's talk about the Bible passage that I used to think ended any conversation on homosexuality: Romans 1. Would you give us just an overview of what your Bible study has revealed about this passage? What about that word "unnatural"? (@34:15)7. What is Scripture's trajectory with gender roles? (@37:45)8. Let's go back to Romans 1! What was same sex behavior commonly associated with at that time? (@40:56)9. So what about the option of celibacy? (@45:07)10. What about other sexual orientations and gender identities? (@47:23)11. Would you tell us more about The Reformation Project and the resources you offer for those who want to learn more? (@49:56)Come back next week as James and I debrief this episode and talk about our personal thoughts on this topic!Love you all! Thank you for your courage to go through this Outgrowing the Good Christian Girl series with me!XOXO, TiffanyMATTHEW'S RESOURCES - highly recommend!!
Remember the ABC reality TV show from a few years ago called “What would you do?”Or the board game called “Scruples?” Christians can often find themselves in all sorts of sticky situations. We might try to use the world’s wisdom to figure out what we’d do in different scenarios, but a better way is to […]
045 - In this solo episode, Heather starts a new tradition - a quarterly Q & A episode! She starts with two questions and some profound thoughts shared by a listener. What parenting skills will help us 1. navigate challenges and 2. Empower our children in their process?"...I would like more on integrating true Christian beliefs. I was taught that it is an abomination & my theological world has been rocked." Heather details six skills to answer the first question. She shares her thoughts and personal experiences to answer the second, as well as wisdom from Susan Cottrell, Colby Martin, and Matthew Vines.Do you have questions?? Email me, message me on Facebook, respond through a survey - whatever is most convenient - and I will answer in a future show!Click HERE for Heather's Coming Out Process Cheat Sheet!Contact Heather directly at hh@chrysalismama.com Do you LOVE Just Breathe? Receive new episodes as soon as they launch, as well as Heather's monthly newsletter Small Exhales and other fabulous resources by:Signing up for her email list HERESharing your feedback HERERemember you can review Just Breathe on your listening app of choice OR you can Review Just Breathe HERERefer friends and family for awesome rewards HERENEW!! Do you want to help spread awareness and let others know they are not alone? Order Heather's new t-shirt(or sweatshirt or mug!) HERE!Connecting through Instagram and Facebook (@chrysalismama) and Twitter (@chrysalismama1)Bookmarking her website as your go-to for LGBTQ education!Remember that you are not alone on this journey! Support the show (https://paypal.me/ChrysalisMama?locale.x=en_US)
In this episode, we talk with our wonderful friend and fierce LGBTQ+ Christian advocate Lauren Dempster (she/they). They share the story of their winding faith journey and how they came to terms with their bisexuality and non-binary gender identity. She also talks about the painful process of coming out to her non-affirming church and eventually choosing to leave it. You can follow Lauren on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok @laurensgaylife. Their dog also has an Instagram, @milo.the.rescue. You should also follow The Voyage Meetup, @thevoyagemeetup on Insta--it's an awesome group for LGBTQ+ people of faith, where April met Lauren! We meet the second and fourth Tuesdays of the month (which is coincidentally when we'll also be dropping episodes each month!). Lauren brings up Matthew Vines' book God and the Gay Christian in this episode as a resource that helped her, and although we didn't bring this up in the episode, we wanted to explain in the show notes why we would not recommend this book (though we do acknowledge it has been helpful for many people in reconciling their sexuality theologically with their faith). Matthew Vines has managed his own organization, The Reformation Project, quite poorly, particularly when it comes to the work of antiracism--in 2019, the entire staff at RP quit, many of which were people of color. You can get an inside look of what the organizational culture was like in this great article by AnaYelsi Velasco Sanchez- https://medium.com/@anayelsivelascosanchez/when-organizations-devolve-the-whitewashing-of-the-reformation-project-fda9b24cc24f. Also, Matthew Vines' book and the Reformation Project still assert that sex must only be in the context of marriage, and they do not support ethical polyamourous relationships, so we cannot in good conscience support that purity culture bullshit. Here are some books by other LGBTQ+ authors that we would recommend instead (and the last one is an ally but is good if you're looking for something very theology-based): One Coin Found by Emmy Kegler Undivided by Vicky Beeching Does Jesus Really Love Me? By Jeff Chu Bad Theology Kills by Kevin Garcia Changing Our Mind by David Gushee Our social media: @reclaimingthegarden on Insta, @RtGardenPodcast on Twitter. Our personal accounts: @thatpunchabletheaternerd, @April_TheWriter (April is on Twitter and Insta). Also, our podcast account follows a bunch of awesome folks + podcasts in the exvangelical/deconstruction world and progressive Christian world, so if you're looking for more resources, that's a great place to start!
Dr. Christopher Yuan taught the Bible at Moody Bible Institute for over ten years and his speaking ministry on faith and sexuality has reached five continents. He speaks at conferences, on college campuses, and in churches. He has co-authored with his mother their memoir, Out of a Far Country: A Gay Son's Journey to God, A Broken Mother's Search for Hope (over 100,000 copies sold and now in seven languages). He is also the author of Giving a Voice to the Voiceless. Christopher graduated from Moody Bible Institute in 2005 and received a master's in biblical exegesis in 2007 and a doctorate of ministry in 2014. Dr. Yuan's newest book, Holy Sexuality and the Gospel: Sex, Desire, and Relationships Shaped by God's Grand Story, was named 2020 book of the year for social issues by Outreach Magazine. Topics we discussed: Story, background, and how parents came to faith in Christ Mushy Theology and distinguishing from true and almost true Matthew Vines discussion Can't understand sexuality without understanding theological ontology Pathways forward in the mushy, confused church culture Why sexual identity is not a category of personhood Unhealthy view of suffering Practical advice to parents of gay children What to do with feelings of SSA --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-monday-christian/support
In my previous video, "Christianity And The LGBTQ+ Community", I briefly mentioned that I found both Matthew Vines and Colby Martin's to not be incredibly convincing. Though I do think that a good portion of the exegetical work done on the passages is helpful, it seems to continually stop short of addressing the overall understanding of relationships as mentioned throughout scripture. This video is an attempt to clarify any confusion from the statement in my last video, as well as hopefully provide a fuller context of the culture that I wouldn't have been able to do in the original video. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
Screw the indefinite hiatus, we're back! This time, it's not by popular demand, but by the demands of Nathan's friend Philip Nadurak, who apparently needed this episode to exist to prove to the world that his Christian theology is backed up by sound doctrine and that he is absolutely not a heretic (ironically or otherwise). But is he actually operating on rational grounds? Or is he a delusional false teacher who still believes in female pastors and the Open Canon of Scripture? You're probably going to have to listen to the episode to find out. Please note that this episode is considered a direct continuation of "Episode 007: 'Heresy'" and "Episode 030: 'Heresy' - Part II". If you have not already listened to those episodes, it is highly recommended that you do so in order to understand what's going on. Resources Mentioned: Link to Philip's book "Let Genesis Speak for Itself" Link to Joe Dallas' refutation of Matthew Vines
This week's podcast episode is a very special episode, featuring singer/songwriter, author and speaker, Staci Frenes. In her new book, “Love Makes Room”, Staci tells her story of coming to understand and fully affirm her daughter's gay orientation within the context of her Christian faith.This episode is a must-listen to anyone who loves someone who identifies as LGBTQ.For more information about Staci: https://www.stacifrenes.comHer blog post on Huffington post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-i-learned-about-love-when-my-daughter-came-out_b_7692082Books she recommends:“God and The Gay Christian” by Matthew Vines -https://matthewvines.com/“Unclobber” - by Colby Martin“Walking the Bridgeless Canyon” by Kathy Baldock -Helpful websites:https://www.freedhearts.org/FB Mom's Group - “Mama Bears”—— Marcia's blog post:“Loving Better: My Journey towards becoming an affirming Christian”http://marciaramirez.blogspot.com/2019/07/loving-better-my-journey-towards.html This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit marciaramirez.substack.com
You have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer you who live, but Christ who lives in you. That is if you are truly following Him. Today we're going to discuss how to know if you truly are and the steps on how to get there if you aren't.Follow Us:Our WebsiteInstagramFacebook
Few, if any, sins are as applauded, celebrated, and accepted as same-sex relationships. But, the Bible is clear - homosexuality is a sin. Ciara and Jessi explain how we know this is true, and more importantly, why is isn't unloving to say so. In fact, telling someone they are in sin is the most loving thing we can do for our neighbor. The controversial conversation continues in this week's episode of crosswise.Disclaimer: While, there is no explicit conversation or material in this episode, please be aware of the sensitive and adult subject matter and use discretion while listening with children.RESOURCES:Love The Body by Nancy Pearcey: https://www.amazon.com/Love-Thy-Body-Answering-Questions/dp/0801075726/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=love+thy+body&qid=1613279310&sr=8-1Same Sex Controversy by James White and Jeffrey Niell: https://www.amazon.com/Same-Sex-Controversy-Clarifying-Homosexuality/dp/0764225243/ref=sr_1_1?crid=BB9PMQB9F24R&dchild=1&keywords=same+sex+controversy&qid=1613279267&sprefix=same+sex+contro%2Caps%2C205&sr=8-1Max Lucado Contoversy:https://www.dailywire.com/news/dangerous-theology-national-cathedral-faces-blowback-for-allowing-guest-preacher-who-opposes-homosexualityhttps://www.dailywire.com/news/max-lucado-apologizes-for-hurting-lgbt-community-amid-outrage-following-sermon-at-national-cathedralResources from James White:The Revisionist History of Homosexuality in the Bible Debunked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-zDJPg9Vc&t=2883sJames White Responds to Matthew Vines: https://www.monergism.com/response-matthew-vines-40-questions"Gay Christianity" Refuted: https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/the-dividing-line/gay-christianity-refuted/Voddie Baucham Addresses Arguments by Christians for Homosexuality: https://youtu.be/loSWMYTd9B8RC Sproul sermon on Romans 7 mentioned in the episode: https://www.ligonier.org/learn/sermons/sins-advantage-law/Interview with Jen Hatmaker: https://religionnews.com/2016/10/25/the-politics-of-jen-hatmaker-trump-black-lives-matter-gay-marriage-and-more/
Matthew Kennedy writes in his article, “It is difficult to find a professing Christian leader who has relinquished the classical Christian position on sexuality on purely exegetical grounds. The most popular voices in the less academic evangelical realm who claim to have changed their minds–Matthew Vines, Justin Lee, and Jen Hatmaker–are either gay or are very close to someone who is. The readiness with which these high-profile Christians abandon their former convictions in light of personal experiences suggests that they had, perhaps unknowingly, already adopted a worldview that undermines the classical Christian understanding of human nature and the relationship between God's law and the human heart. During the sexuality conflict in the Episcopal Church, a common question, thought to be a piercing one by progressives, was: what if one of your children turns out to be gay? I was confused the first time someone asked me that. The revelation that a child of mine might have sinful sexual predispositions would be about as shocking to me as the discovery that my children sometimes tell lies. But when my child lies, I do not change my mind about lying. Likewise, one of my children may one day “come out” but that would not change my mind about human sexuality. For the Christian, the purpose of life is to be conformed to Christ who is the Truth.”This Postmodern Realities episode is a conversation with Journal author Matt Kennedy about his cover article, in the forthcoming 43:3 issue of the Journal entitled, “Why Do The Parents of Gay Children Change Their Theological Minds?” If your already a current subscriber, this will be on it's way to you once it's printed, if not, please subscribe here. https://www.equip.org/product/crj-subscription/We'd also like to invite you to subscribe to the Journal. To subscribe to the Journal, please click here. When you to subscribe to the Journal, you join the team of print subscribers whose paid subscriptions help provide the resources at equip.org that minister to people worldwide. These resources include our free online-exclusive articles, such as this review, as well as our free Postmodern Realities podcast.Another way you can support keeping our resources free is by leaving us a tip. A tip is just a small amount, like $3 or $5, which is the cost for some of a latte, lunch out, or coffee drink. To leave a tip, click here. https://www.equip.org/product/pmr-jnl-tip/Other related articles:When Someone You Love Says, “I'm Gay”Don't miss an episode; please subscribe to the Postmodern Realities podcast wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Please help spread the word about Postmodern Realities by giving us a rating and review when you subscribe to the podcast. The more ratings and reviews we have, the more new listeners can discover our content.
I've said before on BreakPoint that if your God never tells you to do anything you don't want to do, your god is probably you. If there were an Americanized translation of the Apostle's Creed for today, it would be something like this: “I believe in God the Father, Almighty, who always supports my feelings.” This kind of self-centered faith is epidemic both within the church and without, in conservative congregations and progressive ones. The most recent case in point is Democratic presidential candidate and South Bend, Indiana mayor, Pete Buttigieg. At a recent fundraiser, he said of his same-sex “marriage”: “[it] has made me a better man [and]...moved me closer to God. If being gay was a choice, it was a choice that was made far above my pay grade.” He then added, somewhat out-of-the-blue: “That's the thing I wish the Mike Pences of the world would understand, that if you have a problem with who I am, your problem is not with me. Your quarrel, sir, is with my creator.” This was, of course, a political cheap shot. Mike Pence's anti-LGBTQ reputation was secured a long time ago when, as governor of Indiana, he supported religious freedom legislation that sent progressives into hysterics (even though it was a mirror state-level copy of federal legislation that Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy had proposed). As Mayor Pete and the long list of Democratic presidential contenders gear up for their primaries, they have to pander to their liberal base. And what better way to do that than bashing the guy whose boss you hope to unseat? For his part, Vice-President Pence refused the bait, offering compliments instead for Mayor Pete's years of public service and adding, “He knows me better than that.” But Mayor Pete's comments are worth thinking through, if for no other reason than it would've been unthinkable not that long ago to try to enlist God in support of homosexual relationships. Feelings have become so central to personal identity across our culture, even in religion, that to suggest the Bible, God, the Church, or any other authority has a right to question those feelings is tantamount to heresy. Buttigieg and authors like Matthew Vines, who wrote the book, “God and the Gay Christian,” are in essence saying, “God made me this way—and I know this because He would never ask me to go against my feelings.” Unsurprisingly, the secular press has claimed that this new culturally-conformed Christianity as articulated by Mayor Pete will, of course, win the day. Terry Mattingly at Get Religion noted USA Today's almost “evangelistic tone” in reporting Buttigieg's words, and how they wrote as if the mayor's reading of the Bible is a defensible theological position. The reality, of course, is that the mayor's quarrel isn't with Mike Pence. His quarrel is with the clear texts of Scripture that both identify what marriage is and what it is for, as well as how homosexual behavior is sinful. His quarrel is with natural law, reflected in the biological roles our bodies play and the universally embraced connection of marriage and procreation, even by societies not influenced by Christian morality. And of course, his quarrel is with 2,000 years of unanimous Christian witness on marriage and sexual morality. As Everett Piper wrote at the Washington Times in reply to Mayor Pete, we don't get to make up our own version of Christianity. The faith delivered once for all is a faith delivered—it was delivered to the saints. It's a revealed faith. The religions we make up based on our feelings are different religions altogether. Buttigieg may feel that his same-sex relationship has somehow brought him closer to God, but it has not. “If you love me,” Jesus says in John 14:15, “you will keep my commandments.” Now, gay people aren't singled out by Jesus' words here, but they are absolutely included. And to be clear, Mike Pence's feelings on the issue aren't of any more authority than Mayor Pete's feelings. No, this decision was made way above either man's pay grade.
Host Brady Toops sits down with former Christian pastor, Jennifer Mayeaux, who is now living openly as a transgender woman. Jennifer tells her story from being born Christopher to getting married, to receiving a masters degree in theology at Dallas Theological Seminary to full-time pastor, and ultimately to present day living as a transgender woman. To listen to the end of her story as well as hear Jennifer respond to the 10 big spiritual questions of Season 1, check out the bonus episode on Patreon. Join The Unravel Community today and become a patron to get exclusive access to bonus content as well as to dive deeper with Brady and others who love to explore spirituality. It's also a great way to support this podcast! Connect with Brady on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook as well as find music and upcoming concerts at bradytoops.com. Also, check out theunravelpodcast.com for more information or to sign up for email updates to stay tuned for all the latest happenings. Jennifer recommended reading God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines. Follow Jennifer Mayeaux on Twitter or find her on Facebook. This podcast is a part of The Liturgists Network.
You sent questions. I answer them...or at least tell you my thoughts. Are there examples of same sex relationships in the Bible? Doesn't Genesis 1-2 and Ephesians 5 imply God only wants relationships between men and women? Where can I go to learn more? Check out these resources to dig deeper: Books On Same Sex Love... God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines Torn by Justin Lee Changing Our Mind by David Gushee (I don't love some of his final conclusions, but the book is a good overview of the texts) Bible, Gender, Sexuality by James Brownson On the Bible... Making Sense of the Bible by Adam Hamilton Disarming Scripture by Derek Flood What is the Bible by Rob Bell Podcasts The Enduring Relevance, Astonishing Power and Unexpected Brilliance of the Bible on The Robcast "The Bible and the Gay Christian" with Matthew Vines on The Bible for Normal People The Clobbercast: Sexuality, the Bible and More on Homebrewed Christianity
On today's program, I responded to Matthew Vines' recent post "40 Questions for Christians who Oppose Marriage Equality." I was able to get through all 40 questions, and explained how Vines does not agree with the Scriptural view of marriage. Instead, his ethical system is guided by experience and emotion. This is an important program.
Obamacare is threatening James Dobson's Family Talk ministry. Matt Bowman of Alliance Defending Freedom identifies the facts of the case with Don Kroah (2:00).•Albert Mohler responds to the newly released book, “God and the Gay Christian” by Matthew Vines (5:00).•Michael Brown, from the ministry program “Line of Fire”, explains the intolerance of the left on the Don Kroah Show (13:00). •New studies reveal that marijuana damages the brain. Dr. Eric Voth discusses the harmful effects of the drug with Bill Bunkley (21:45).•Nick Vujicic was born without arms or legs, but his preoccuption is not his own body, but rather the body of Christ (27:40)•Don Kroah interviews John Stonestreet from Breakpoint commentaries about culture and Christianity (35:40).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.