Podcast appearances and mentions of Matthew Vines

Text us your questions!Matthew Vines returns to discuss how the revised edition of his book addresses critiques from prominent theologians, the distinction between affirming theology and queer theology, and the possibility of affirming, orthodox Christianity.Matthew unpacks the scholarly consensus that modern sexual orientation concepts simply didn't exist in biblical times—a fact many prominent theologians like NT Wright dismiss without substantial engagement. This historical disconnect creates profound implications for how we interpret biblical passages addressing same-sex relationships.The discussion takes an interesting turn when Matthew articulates a strong critique of queer theology, distinguishing it from his own affirming theological stance. He argues that queer theory's categorical opposition to all normative structures actually harms LGBTQ+ acceptance by creating an antagonistic "us versus them" narrative rather than one of shared values and inclusion.We also explore Christian sexual ethics more broadly, with Matthew making the compelling case that monogamy and covenant faithfulness remain valuable principles with profound theological significance. He explains how Christianity's sexual ethic was actually liberating in the ancient world, especially for women and enslaved people who had previously been treated as property without sexual agency.The conversation concludes with Matthew sharing the mission of The Reformation Project—his organization dedicated to equipping Christians to advocate for LGBTQ+ inclusion while maintaining orthodox Christian beliefs. By modeling how affirmation and biblical commitment can coexist, they're challenging the false narrative that accepting LGBTQ+ people necessarily leads to theological liberalism.Topics covered in this episode include:• How ancient and modern understandings of sexuality are fundamentally different, with sexual orientation being a modern concept• The two main schools of thought in sexuality studies that emerged in the 1970s: social constructionism (Foucault) and essentialism (Boswell)• NT Wright and Preston Sprinkle's claims about ancient sexuality• Matthew's response to criticisms of his interpretation of Matthew 7 regarding "good and bad fruit"• The role of Christian sexual ethics in liberating vulnerable populations by restricting sexual activity to marriage• How queer theology differs from affirming theology in its rejection of all norms as inherently oppressive=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

Through his work with the Reformation Project, and his book God and the Gay Christian, Matthew Vines captures the essence of a journey shared by millions managing the complex intersection of faith and sexual identity.In a political climate where White Christian Nationalism increasingly scapegoats LGBTQ people for societal ills, Vines offers something revolutionary: a thoughtful framework for understanding Scripture that upholds its authority while making room for affirming theology. Through meticulous examination of historical context, he demonstrates how the same-sex behaviors condemned in Scripture were fundamentally different from the loving, committed relationships we recognize today.Drawing fascinating parallels to how Christians reinterpreted biblical teachings on slavery and charging interest, Vines shows how contextual understanding isn't compromising faith—it's deepening it. "The reason same-sex behaviors were condemned in Scripture are very different than the types of same-sex relationships we're talking about today," he explains. We discuss Pope Francis's legacy of inclusion and the challenges within evangelicalism, where reform seems simultaneously impossible and inevitable. Vines suggests that effective change comes not through flashy redesigns of church with pride flags everywhere, but through communities that fully include LGBTQ people while keeping "the main thing the main thing"—following Jesus.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock

Text us your questions!Matthew Vines is here to discuss the revised and expanded edition of his influential book God and the Gay Christian, marking eleven years since its initial release. The book sent shockwaves through evangelical Christianity and remains a powerful and compelling case for an affirming reading of the Bible for those who want to hold onto biblical authority (if you're counting, that's exactly one of the hosts of this podcast).Matthew shares the backstory behind the book, including how he took a semester off from Harvard to come out to his parents and how he spent months studying the Bible and reading ex-gay literature with his dad. That process ultimately changed his dad's mind and started the trajectory to this book.The heart of our conversation concerns Matthew's case for reading the Bible in an affirming way. He draws a fascinating parallel with how Christians approached biblical prohibitions against charging interest (usury) for 1,500 years—until John Calvin recognized that while Scripture categorically condemned the practice, its underlying moral logic was about protecting the vulnerable from exploitation. Similarly, Matthew argues, we must understand what same-sex behavior meant in ancient times before we can draw parallels to current practices and understandings.Matthew is articulate and thoughtful and approaches the issue with a great respect for the Bible and for his interlocutors. (The new edition of the book includes new sections responding to some of his critics!)This conversation ran so deep that we had to split it into two episodes! Stay tuned for Part 2.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Follow us on social media at @PPWBPodcast Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!

What if celibate people are really just repressing their sexuality? Or the Bible writers banned same-sex sex because they couldn't imagine a modern, egalitarian, consensual marriage?Join TJ (social science researcher) and David (communitarian vibes) as they name 7 “myths” of sex, celibacy, marriage, and love, and talk about LGBTQ flourishing for Christians.Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, Y) as shorthand quite a bit. If you're new to the conversation, you might find it helpful to check out episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: ⁠#3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality⁠—★ Timestamps(00:00) #61 - 7 Myths of Side A: On Sex, Love, and Marriage for LGBTQ Christians(03:19) Myth #1: Celibacy equals sexual repression or misery(10:29) Myth #2: The Bible writers only banned gay sex because they couldn't imagine consensual, egalitarian same-sex monogamous relationships(15:32) Myth #3: Marriage is the only committed covenant relationship(23:17) Myth #4: Colonialist European Christianity is the source of homophobia around the globe(31:06) Myth #5: A sexual ethic is just a personal decision(36:33) Myth #6: Love trumps everything(42:20) Myth #7: Sexual ethics are minor differences among Christians(53:25) Summing up—★ Links and References* Bill White in the New York Times: “How My Dad Reconciled His God and His Gay Son.” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/02/05/opinion/coming-out-evangelical-pastor.html?unlocked_article_code=1.u04.SZiC.MDfFGLX6HWTO&smid=url-share* Wendell Berry, **“Sex, Economy, Freedom, and Community,” (2018). https://www.counterpointpress.com/books/sex-economy-freedom-community/* John Pike, “Were loving, faithful same-sex relations known in antiquity?” https://www.psephizo.com/sexuality-2/were-loving-faithful-same-sex-relations-known-in-antiquity/* Preston Sprinkle, “Did Consensual Same-Sex Sexual Relationships Exist in Biblical Times? A Response to Matthew Vines,” (August 30, 2022). https://www.centerforfaith.com/blog/did-consensual-same-sex-sexual-relationships-exist-in-biblical-times-a-response-to-matthew—★ Send us feedback, questions, comments, and support!Email: communionandshalom@gmail.com | Instagram: @newkinship | Substack: @newkinship | Patreon: @newkinship—★ CreditsCreators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza | Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson, carlswensonmusic.com | Podcast Manager: Elena F. | Graphic Designer: Gavin Popken, gavinpopkenart.com ★ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newkinship.substack.com

Greg talks to Sean McDowell, author of End the Stalemate, about how cancel culture developed, communicating ideas well to others, dealing with your own biases, being charitable, steelmanning your opponent's arguments, and more.   Topics: Interview: Sean McDowell, author of End the Stalemate: Move Past Cancel Culture to Meaningful Conversations (00:00)   Mentioned on the Show:  End the Stalemate: Move Past Cancel Culture to Meaningful Conversations by Sean McDowell Greg Koukl and Michael Shermer at the End of the Decade of the New Atheists – Debate transcript Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines on the Bible and Homosexuality – Video of the debate Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview by J.P. Moreland and William Lane Craig Street Smarts: Using Questions to Answer Christianity's Toughest Challenges by Greg Koukl   Related Links: Proverbs for Apologists by Amy Hall

“I'm afraid I'm going to hell because I'm not attracted to men. Please give me an unbiased interpretation of Romans 1.” We received this question from a young woman, M.V. This podcast was created by one of Google's newest AI engines, NotebookLM. (https://notebookLM.google.com) We gave NotebookLM M.V.'s question and these six quotes: 1. Justin Lee, from the book: “Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate”: “Paul's writings in Romans 1 are about people who turned away from God and engaged in lustful, excessive behaviors. This is different from a loving, committed same-sex relationship.” 2. Janet Edmonds who I have quoted frequently in this series, says in part: “The behavior Paul (…author of the book of Romans…) was addressing here is explicitly associated with idol worship (probably temple prostitution…' “In the surrounding culture it was common for men of a higher status to take sexual advantage of male slaves or male prostitutes…” “The laws at the time in Rome allowed a master to demand sexual services from any slave, male or female” “Paul was not talking about homosexuality and didn't have in mind specifically prohibiting consensual same-sex relationships.” 3. Matthew Vines, in his book “God and the Gay Christian”: says “Paul's references to ‘unnatural' relations in Romans 1:26-27 are often misunderstood. He was addressing specific cultural practices of his time, not committed, loving same-sex relationships as we understand them today.” 4. Rev. Dr. Mel White, Book: “What the Bible Says—and Doesn't Say—about Homosexuality”: “Romans 1:26-27 must be read in the context of the entire chapter, which condemns idolatry and excessive lust, not loving same-sex relationships.” 5. Kathy Baldock, in her book “Walking the Bridgeless Canyon”: “Paul's use of ‘natural' and ‘unnatural' in Romans 1 reflects the cultural norms of his time, not a universal condemnation of same-sex relationships.” 6. James Brownson, “Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church's Debate on Same-Sex Relationships”: “Romans 1, 26 and 27 addresses behaviors that were seen as dishonorable and excessive, not the loving, committed relationships we see today.” For more information about NotebookLM: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LMPb9JJnosPj8SPVRSF9z?si=rrOjkTrAR0eGO0Otrv5zfg&t=1466&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A44fllCS2FTFr2x2kjP9xeT

In this episode, Tim sits down with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project to discuss Rosaria Butterfield's problematic anti LGBTQ+ theology, and her impact on the larger conservative Christian culture. Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you've been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We've built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rebecca McLaughlin is joined by her friend, Justine, who recently got baptized to answer some questions submitted by listeners!Questions Covered in This Episode:Do you have any advice for a first-time mom trying to keep up and stay connected to the church during the first six weeks? Any thoughts on how to practically lead a discipleship group for new moms?How should we understand passages like 1 Corinthians 14:33-36 or 1 Timothy 2:11-12 that say women should learn in silence?Why is the church referred to as “she;” is the church not the body of Christ?Will you respond to Matthew Vines's book “God and the Gay Christian”?Do you think it's important to have specific study groups for women in the church or do you find it more edifying to have men and women together to study? Any resources you would recommend?Do you think the command to “be fruitful and multiply” still applies to Christians today? What are your thoughts about Christian couples deferring having children?Do you think the Old Testament law applies to believers today? If so, in what way?Resources Mentioned:Isaiah 49:15, 1 Corinthians 14:33-36, 1 Timothy 2:11-12, Ephesians 5, Genesis 1:28, Matthew 28:18-20Knowing Faith“Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” by Rebecca McLaughlin“Jesus Through the Eyes of Women” by Rebecca McLaughlinSponsors:To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website.Follow Us:Instagram | TwitterOur Sister Shows:Knowing Faith | The Family Discipleship Podcast | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Confronting Christianity is a podcast of Training the Church. For ad-free episodes and more content check out our Patreon.

A new documentary entitled 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted Culture claims that the mistranslation of a word in the 1946 Revised Standard Version Bible led to the rampant “homophobia” that now infects the Church. In the film, a Bible researcher and an author claim that a Greek word found in 1 Corinthians 6:9 should not have been translated “homosexuality.”  Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality … will inherit the kingdom of God.  The film claims that the word translated to “homosexuality” is a compound Greek word that combines the concept of an effeminate man with a man sharing a bed with another man. Though that sounds exactly like the definition of “homosexuality,” scholars in the film assure viewers that a “historical context” is being missed, and Paul was condemning sexual predation and pederasty rather than homosexuality. This claim is not new, nor is it or the film “groundbreaking,” as some have claimed.  The normalization of homosexuality has long included efforts to square the behavior with biblical morality. These efforts have taken various forms, such as appealing to the “truly loving God” who “would never” require people to deny their desires; or claiming a moral trajectory to the Bible so that prohibitions against homosexuality no longer apply. Of course, some simply reject the Bible as no longer relevant to our lives, while others employ this strategy of claiming the Scriptures were mistranslated.   What is clear from how often these arguments surface, how quickly they are embraced, and how passionately they are defended is that many people really, really wish that the Bible said something different about homosexuality than it does. Also clear is how unprepared many Christians are to respond to the latest reincarnation of one of these arguments, even when they are obviously untrue or, well, silly. While it can be difficult to remain confident in our convictions as the truth grows more unpopular, shaken confidence typically leads to either an embarrassed silence or a loud anger. Either way, it leaves those who need the truth without it.  This documentary is the latest example of pulling and positing arguments for LGBTQ affirmation out of thin air and then treating these arguments as legitimate. The trend began roughly 10 years ago, when Matthew Vines gave a speech in a Kansas church that went viral. Citing his personal struggles with same-sex attraction, Vines claimed that the Bible didn't prohibit homosexual activity, because it couldn't. If it did, he said, it would be too painful for gay people, and that pain would be the “bad fruit” about which Scripture warned.  Despite a 2,000-year history of Christian belief, tradition, and exegesis to the contrary, many found Vines' assertions to be compelling, a fact that said far more about the sad state of Christian discipleship than his theology. Of course, twisting Scripture to justify belief or behaviors is not new. At no time until now did anyone attempt to claim that the Bible did anything but condemn homosexual acts, a historical fact that undermines the claim made in the documentary that Christian morality on this point dates back only several decades.   At the same time, this historical consistency exposes just how serious a problem it is when Christians find these new assertions so compelling. With few exceptions, the questions and complexities of Christian theology have been thoroughly explored and settled. Most challenges to Christian belief and morality leveled by cynics and skeptics have been answered. There is, however, a dramatic gap between the answers that are there, and the answers Christians know. The result is that even absurd assertions, like the one made in this new documentary, confirm the beliefs of the already convinced and convince many who should know better but don't.  In fact, the strangest assertion in this new documentary is not even the claim of mistranslation. It's the assertion that Christian opposition to homosexuality began in 1946.  The opposite is, of course, true. Despite all the theological squabbles about all sorts of things among various Christian groups throughout Church history, only in recent days and only in a very narrow part of the Western world has anyone doubted that the Bible rejects homosexuality.  Christians believe that God has revealed Himself in the world He made and in His Word. On this issue, both clearly tell the same story. In fact, they are the same story. Christians who know this will not be “tossed to and fro” by every wind of false doctrine or by the silly claims of a documentary.  For more resources to live like a Christian in this cultural moment, go to breakpoint.org. 

Greg talks to Alan Shlemon, who attended the Unconditional Conference at Andy Stanley's church, about the good and bad of what was taught there, how those who promote pro-gay theology viewed the conference, Alan's concerns, Andy Stanley's sermon explaining his position, etc.   Topics: Interview: Alan Shlemon – Concerns about the Unconditional Conference (00:00) Mentioned on the Show:  Andy Stanley's Unconditional Conference: Deep Dive Response – Sean McDowell's interview of Alan Shlemon A Reformation the Church Doesn't Need – Part 1 and Part 2 by Alan Shlemon and Greg Koukl Related Links: Alan Shlemon: Matthew Vines's Reformation Project Conference – Podcast Answering Matthew Vines's 40 Questions – Podcast A Response to Matthew Vines: The Bible Doesn't Support Same-Sex Relationships by Amy Hall Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines on the Bible and Homosexuality – Video Should We Downplay the “Clobber Passages” on Homosexuality? by Alan Shlemon

Back again, Christian Ashley and Joshua Noel continue their discussion on God and salvation with Thomas J. Oord. This time they are joined by Dr Oord's daughter, Alexa Oord, to discuss how Christians should love the LGBTQ+ community? Can you love queer people without being affirming? Can correction be loving? What does it mean to be queer? What does it mean to question "womanhood" or "manhood"? Is the Bible really clear about same-sex attraction? What does it mean to be queer? Does God prioritize healthy relationships? Can any relationship be a distraction from kingdom work? Why do some Christians say it's okay to be gay? Why do some Christians think it is a sin to be homosexual? What does LGBTQI mean? What does it mean to be affirming of same-sex marriages or the LGBTQ+ community? We discuss all this and much more in this episode! Join in our conversations on our Discord Server and Facebook group!.Go back and listen to our last conversation with Dr Oord:https://player.captivate.fm/episode/9abeb32e-d688-4655-92db-5d8435ae932e.Check out all of the books mentioned in this episode here:Matthew Vines' "God and the Gay Christian"Gregory Coles' "Single, Gay Christian"Kevin DeYoung's "What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality?"Thomas & Alexa Oord's "Why the Church of the Nazarene Should be Fully LGBTQ+ Affirming"Mentioned in this episode:Explicit WarningPost-Roll

Matthew Vines loves the church, cherishes God's word, and counts as precious the church communities to which he has and does belong.  In fact, if you were to run into Vines at your church this weekend, it's probable that you would have a conversation just like any other Sunday morning discussion you are likely to have.That is, until you realize that Matthew Vines also founded and facilitates The Reformation Project, a ministry with the mission to encourage LGBTQ inclusion within the church.  That's where the conversation is bound to get very interesting.Some studied estimates say that nearly 80% of members within the LGBTQ community have been or are invested in a church.  Today's [Worldview Contrasts] episode of Kingdom Culture Conversations moves beyond debate to a genuine discussion that goes deeper than "Your side talks about these verses and our side talks about these verses."  Matthew tells his story and talks about how and why The Reformation Project came to be.  He also affords us the privileged opportunity to understand, without necessarily agreeing with, his convictions on homosexuality and the Bible.  With honesty and transparency, we enjoy a two-part, robust discussion that identifies areas of consensus without either of us compromising our convictions. In the process, we attempt to model both civil discourse and the brotherly love that Jesus advocates for in John 13:  "By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another."For more information on Matthew Vines, please visit this link.To learn about Vines' book "God and the Gay Christian", please follow this link.For more information about The Reformation Project, click here."Kingdom Culture Conversations" is a podcast created through Frameworks, a Biblical worldview initiative of Northwest Christian School.For more information on Frameworks, please visit:  https://frameworks.ncsaz.org/For more information on Northwest Christian School, visit:  https://www.ncsaz.org/To reach out to Geoff Brown, please email gbrown@ncsaz.org or you can reach him by cell phone:  (623)225-5573.

Matthew Vines loves the church, cherishes God's word, and counts as precious the church communities to which he has and does belong.  In fact, if you were to run into Vines at your church this weekend, it's probable that you would have a conversation just like any other Sunday morning discussion you are likely to have. That is, until you realize that Matthew Vines also founded and facilitates The Reformation Project, a ministry with the mission to encourage LGBTQ inclusion within the church.  That's where the conversation is bound to get very interesting.Some studied estimates say that nearly 80% of members within the LGBTQ community have been or are invested in a church.  Today's [Worldview Contrasts] episode of Kingdom Culture Conversations moves beyond debate to a genuine discussion that goes deeper than "Your side talks about these verses and our side talks about these verses."  Matthew tells his story and talks about how and why The Reformation Project came to be.  He also affords us the privileged opportunity to understand, without necessarily agreeing with, his convictions on homosexuality and the Bible.  With honesty and transparency, we enjoy a two-part, robust discussion that identifies areas of consensus without either of us compromising our convictions.  In the process, we attempt to model both civil discourse and the brotherly love that Jesus advocates for in John 13:  "By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another."For more information on Matthew Vines, please visit this link.To learn about Vines' book "God and the Gay Christian", please follow this link.For more information about The Reformation Project, click here."Kingdom Culture Conversations" is a podcast created through Frameworks, a Biblical worldview initiative of Northwest Christian School.For more information on Frameworks, please visit:  https://frameworks.ncsaz.org/For more information on Northwest Christian School, visit:  https://www.ncsaz.org/To reach out to Geoff Brown, please email gbrown@ncsaz.org or you can reach him by cell phone:  (623)225-5573.

Within Christian circles on the faith and sexuality, we (especially Side B people) spend a lot of time talking about different “sides” and where we stand. Some people think we shouldn't even talk about sides at all. While there may be merit to some of their objections, we still think it's a valuable way of framing things. This episode explains why we keep using “Side A” and “Side B”. We might give you some new ideas, might change your mind… or it might just give you more things to argue about with us. We welcome all of those! Note: This episode uses the terms “Side A” and “Side B” (and X, and Y) as shorthand quite a bit. If you're new to the conversation (welcome!), you can totally join us for an insider conversation…but first you might find it helpful to check out Communion & Shalom episode #3, where we talk through the four “sides”: ⁠⁠⁠#3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 Sides on SSA/Gay Sexuality⁠⁠ __________ Timestamps (00:57) Why did this topic come up? (04:40) What are the strengths of using "sides" language or framework? (09:33) Critiques of using "sides" language or frameworks (25:03) Critiques we find wisdom in (27:08) Alternatives: What other language besides "sides" could we use? (35:59) Is "sides" language sufficient for our moment? __________ Links and References Below are some names mentioned in this episode, which may help make this conversation easier to follow and look up. Saint Aelred - Wikipedia We mention Rosaria Butterfield on this episode, who represents “Side Y”. Matthew Vines represents a traditional “Side A” perspective. Tyler Sit was a guest on this podcast - Episode 13 Giacomo San Filippo was a guest on this podcast - Episode 17 __________ If you like this podcast, please consider… → Sharing feedback or questions! www.podpage.com/communion-shalom/contact → Supporting us on Patreon! patreon.com/communionandshalom → Following us on Instagram! @communionandshalom — Credits Creators and Hosts: David Frank, TJ Espinoza Audio Engineer: Carl Swenson (www.carlswensonmusic.com) Podcast Manager: Elena

The LGBTQ+ community has experienced so much in the way of harm. Much of this harm has come from Christians who are trying to uphold the historical biblical ethic on sexuality. How should followers of Jesus move forward? Today, Derek explores how Christians should relate to the LGBTQ+ community. There are a number of resources that are well worth your time to explore around the topic of Christianity and the LGBTQ+ community. Videos and websites: Jon Tyson message titled "Jesus and the Gay Community" https://youtu.be/QqF0MwqjuBU Pieter Valk's website https://www.pieterlvalk.com/ The Reformation Project https://reformationproject.org/ Spiritual Friendship https://spiritualfriendship.org/ Books: "People to be loved: Why homosexuality is not just an issue" by Preston Sprinkle https://a.co/d/9rxSlAn "God and the gay Christian: The biblical case for same-sex relationships" by Matthew Vines https://a.co/d/eg7MadS "Washed and waiting: Reflections on Christian faithfulness and homosexuality" by Wesley Hill https://a.co/d/4OmeOdI "Making Sense of Sex: Attitudes towards Sexuality in Early Jewish and Christian Literature" by William Loader https://a.co/d/iptsw7B "Slaves, Women & Homosexuals: Exploring the Hermeneutics of Cultural Analysis" by William Webb https://a.co/d/e5AbpoE "Two Views on Homosexuality, the Bible, and the Church" edited by Preston Sprinkle with multiple authors https://a.co/d/5m7gzbs "Sexuality in the New Testament: Understanding the Key Texts" by William Loader https://a.co/d/9AC0NmV If you'd like to connect with us or share a prayer request, feel free to fill out a connect card here: vineyardaltoona.churchcenter.com/people/forms/288405 We're always grateful for your continued financial support. To give securely online, you can visit this link: vineyardaltoona.churchcenter.com/giving Thanks so much for your continued support of Vineyard Altoona!

Some topics that CPCW covers are relevant to lot of parents and a lot of kids, but the topic of sexuality is relevant to ALL parents and ALL kids. We cannot escape this issue in our families and our friendship circles. So who defines our sexuality? Our celebrities, our politicians, our teachers and school administrators, our friends, our feelings… or God. If we want to call ourselves Christ followers, the answer to that question must be God because He designed our sexuality. And the parameters He places around it in His Word are not there to oppress us and deny our authentic selves. Those parameters exist to bless us and to bring us freedom. In part 2 of a 4-part series on sexuality, Catherine discusses the loving parameters that God places around our sexuality to protect us and how can we communicate Biblical sexuality to our kids. Joining her again is Erin Barry, an author, speaker, counselor, and educational consultant. Erin has bachelor's degree in education, a master's degree in counseling, and is working on her doctorate in Christian counseling with an emphasis on the topic of sexuality. Erin and her husband Brett are founders of The Home Educated Mind, a Christ-centered community dedicated to providing materials and support for Christian parents.You can find Erin's resources at: https://www.thehomeeducatedmind.com/.RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CONSULTED:“Holy Sexuality” by Christopher Yuan: https://bit.ly/3WhzyDl “God and the Gay Christian” by Matthew Vines: https://amzn.to/3DJmnUC “Assessing God and the Gay Christian” by Joe Dallas:Part 1: https://bit.ly/3SQu0g4 Part 2: https://bit.ly/3Fzjw1I “Love Your Neighbor Enough to Speak the Truth” (a Response to Jen Hatmaker) by Rosaria Butterfield: https://bit.ly/3feulM8 “Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters” by Abigail Shrier: https://bit.ly/3TSF2mm BOOKS ON DISCUSSING BIBLICAL SEXUALITY WITH YOUR KIDS: “How and When to Tell Your Kids about Sex: A Lifelong Approach to Shaping Your Child's Sexual Character” by Stan and Brenna Jones: https://bit.ly/3TSF2mm “The Talk: 7 Lessons to Introduce Your Child to Biblical Sexuality” by Luke Gilkerson: https://amzn.to/3ztXtpc SCRIPTURES REFERENCED:Genesis 1:27-28John 3:17Leviticus 18:22, 20:131 Corinthians 6:11

This is a Deep Dive into the book: A Rebel's Manifesto: Choosing Truth, Real Justice, and Love amid the Noise of Today's World by Sean McDowell.This is Part 4 of the Deep Dive: “Sexuality”0:35 - Rings of Power Finale comments3:14 - Lee Strobe's “A Case for Heaven” book comments5:30 - J.P. Moreland's “Scientism and Secularism” comments6:15 - back to the Deep Dive…6:40 - Topics covered this week7:43 - Sex9:45 - “The orders were for your protection…”12:30 - What if everyone followed Jesus' sexual ethic?14:10 - Comments on the purity movement and motivations17:45 - Homosexuality30:05 - Transgender ideology32:45 - Pornography40:38 - Abortion44:06 - Final commentsHelpful links:What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality? Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines in Conversationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFY4VtCWgyIRay Comfort Vs Matt Dillahunty | Does God Exist? DEBATEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRCbvfyiu0sScientism and Secularism: Learning to Respond to a Dangerous Ideology by J.P. Moreland - https://a315.co/3D2B6IqThe Case for Heaven by Lee Strobel - https://a315.co/3z7jUAJScott Klusendorf Interview on Abortionhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/veracityhill/scott-klusendorf-interviewBelfast Bigot interview on Abortionhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/veracityhill/014-abortion-and-the-belfast-bigotA Rebel's Manifesto Book:https://a315.co/RebelSean's McDowell's Website:www.seanmcdowell.orgWe appreciate your feedback.If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com

Sally Gary is founder and director of CenterPeace, a 501(c)(3) non-profit ministry dedicated to creating space for conversation about faith and sexuality. Growing up in Churches of Christ in the ‘60s & ‘70s, Sally has a great love for the spiritual heritage that first introduced her to Jesus and instilled in her a strong faith. But as a gay Christian, she knows firsthand the pain of wrestling with her own faith and sexuality, and how difficult it can be to stay connected to church, to Christianity, to God with no support from your faith community. This is what drives Sally's passion for CenterPeace, the ministry she founded in 2006 to create a place of belonging for LGBTQ+ Christians, encouraging them to hold onto faith and stay connected to God.For over 16 years, CenterPeace has been building community for sexual minorities, hosting online and in-person retreats and other resources for nurturing the faith of LGBTQ+ individuals. CenterPeace also hosts retreats for families of LGBTQ+ youth, and workshops for churches and schools, and other organizations to foster greater inclusion of the LGBTQ+ community. Since 2009, CenterPeace has hosted a national conference featuring keynote speakers such as Justin Lee and Matthew Vines. The conference has attracted thousands over the years – LGBTQ+ Christians, church leaders, parents, and allies – from across the globe, for the purpose of learning how to love and embrace the LGBTQ+ community in our midst and beyond.This year's CenterPeace Conference is in Dallas, Texas, at Wilshire Baptist – a fully open and affirming Baptist church – November 3 – 5. Jeff Chu of “Evolving Faith” is the featured keynote speaker, along with Justin and Matthew, Joel Hollier from Australia and Staci Frenes, singer/songwriter from Los Angeles. AND Rocky Roggio, director and creative genius behind the new film 1946, a documentary about mistranslation in Scripture.Sally holds bachelor's and master's degrees in communication from Abilene Christian University and a Doctor of Jurisprudence degree from Texas Tech University School of Law. A former high school speech and debate coach, trial lawyer and communication professor, Sally is a teacher at heart. Most of all, Sally is dedicated to serving queer youth, helping them know they are loved by God and that they always belong. Everywhere.The author of Affirming: A Memoir of Faith, Sexuality, and Staying in the Church, Sally currently resides in Dallas, Texas, with her wife, Karen, and their miniature dapple dachshund, Rudy.For more information about CenterPeace, visit centerpeace.net and follow on social media:Facebook – facebook.com/centerpeaceincInstagram - @centerpeaceinc

We're talking about 2 of Tom Taylor's series in modern DC comics, "Nightwing" and "Son of Kal-El"! Hosts Joshua Noel and Joe Dea discuss the story beats, the characters, and their relationship to one another! How can Christians read a comicbook about a gay superhero? Can a 'haven', like what Nightwing is building, truly exist on this side of heaven? How far can money take us to helping our societal issues? Is Nightwing a sidekick or the new Batman? Why does Clark Kent (aka Kal-El) trust Dick Grayson to watch over Jon Kent? What significance does Superman's boyfriend, Jay Nakamura, play in the over-arching story? What does it look like for a normal human like Dick to help mentor an alien with godlike abilities like Jon Kent? We discuss all this and way more! Let us know what you think of Tom Taylor's run on these characters on our website: systematicgeekology.org *When discussing human sexuality, Joshua and Joe both represent a more traditional, conservative Christian sexual ethic. After mentioning there is a diversity of views on this topic, Joshua mentioned a few books to help people acquaint themselves with these diverse views from within Christendom and he wanted to share the links to these books here (noting that he gave the wrong name for DeYoung's work in the episode): https://www.amazon.com/God-Gay-Christian-Biblical-Relationships-ebook/dp/B00F1W0RD2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3L92F84YE5F7A&keywords=god+and+the+gay+christian+by+matthew+vines&qid=1660060993&sprefix=god+and+the+%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-1 ("God and the Gay Christian", by Matthew Vines) https://www.amazon.com/Single-Gay-Christian-Personal-Identity-ebook/dp/B0751MPKK1/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1564IRNDDUXHN&keywords=single+gay+christian&qid=1660061058&sprefix=single+gay%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-3 ("Single, Gay Christian", by Gregory Cole) https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Really-Teach-about-Homosexuality-ebook/dp/B00U9MQVXO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=31JKADMNKYDA&keywords=homosexuality+kevin+deyoung&qid=1660061118&sprefix=homosexuality+kevin+deyoung%2Caps%2C53&sr=8-1 ("What Does the Bible Really Teach About Homosexuality?", by Kevin DeYoung)

Jonty and Ness crack open the Bible and dive into some of the most famous Bible verses that are used to talk about homosexuality to see what they actually say. We also hear from both Matthew Vines and Caleb Kaltenbach on these verses from a New York Times piece called Debating Bible Verses on Sexuality. Email us at filthyhopepod@gmail.comInstagramFacebookFacebook Discussion GroupCheck out our website: unitingheartandsoul.org Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Guest Host: J. Warner Wallace   J. Warner Wallace talks about how the claims about Jesus are historical and can be tested (unlike claims about Peter Pan), then he answers a question about whether one should be happy that a child has entered into a homosexual relationship and is no longer depressed.   Topics: Commentary: How the claims about Jesus differ from claims about Peter Pan (00:00) If my son, who recently told me he's bisexual, finds a man to be with and is no longer depressed, should I be happy that he's happy? (19:00) Mentioned on the Show:  Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines on the Bible and Homosexuality Christopher Yuan Becket Cook Related Links: A Response to Matthew Vines: The Bible Doesn't Support Same-Sex Relationships by Amy Hall An Evaluation of the Dialogue between Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines  Answering Matthew Vines's 40 Questions A Reformation the Church Doesn't Need Part 1 and Part 2 by Alan Shlemon Be Willing to Submit to Our Good God on the Issue of Homosexuality by Amy Hall What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung

On today's programme we looked at a recent talk done by Matthew Vines at the Reconcile and Reform Conference held by the Reformation Project.

On today's programme we looked at a recent talk done by Matthew Vines at the Reconcile and Reform Conference held by the Reformation Project.

On today's programme we looked at a recent talk done by Matthew Vines at the Reconcile and Reform Conference held by the Reformation Project. Megiddo Radio · #476 How LGBT "Christianity" Really Abandons Christianity Related: Megiddo Radio · #412 Matthew Vines Refuted on "LGBTQ Inclusion" Megiddo Radio · #149 Matthew Vines And 'Gay Christianity' Refuted

Quick, judge them! Throw stones! Condemn! Or ... listen as Jen and Steve talk through some of the compelling points made by Matthew Vines in his book God and the Gay Christian to realize that the Bible does not actually condemn same sex relationships. Jen and Steve discuss how even if you believe homosexuality is a sin, what good comes from your judgment? "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." -- Matthew 7:19 Keep the conversation going! Instagram & Twitter: jknapp_jk email: j4knapp1@gmail.com Facebook: Steve Knapp If you're enjoying RWC, it would mean so much to us if you'd share it with your friends and review it on your podcast platform. Thanks for the support!

Mathew Vines, author of God and the Gay Christian and founder of The Reformation Project joins us today. We talk about the church and why it still matters, not losing discipleship in the midst of reevaluating your beliefs, how you can hold onto a high view of Scripture while becoming affirming of Same-Sex Marriages and he tells us a little of the story of his recent engagement.  At the end of the episode Matthew shares about a new video project, The Reformation Project has put together, exploring in more depth the biblical case for LGBTQ inclusion. Find that video project HERE

The Dear Godly Segment of this podcast has had an amazing response. In this episode I read some of the letters I've received and give advice. If you would like to submit a letter to be included in an upcoming episode please send it to godlygayinfo@gmail.com. Your identity will never be disclosed on-air or via any other platform. I look forward to hearing from you. Organization mentioned in this episode: The Reformation Project Book mentioned: God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines

How should a Christian relate to someone in their lives who is obviously living in sexual sin, without appearing to condone this marriage? Thankfully, God does not leave us without answers. As with every other issue in life, our thinking, our words, and our actions must be shaped by and in submission to the authority […]

In this conversation we talk about his new video curriculum, “The Biblical Case for LGBTQ Inclusion,” the authority of the Bible, and his desire to change hearts and minds.

Matthew Vines, seorang aktivis LGBT berargumen bahwa ayat-ayat didalam Alkitab yang melarang pernikahan homoseksual sebenarnya tidaklah bermaksud demikian. Justru sebaliknya, Alkitab mendukung hal ini. Apakah benar? Source : https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/05/us/samesex-scriptures.html

Let's dive into part 5 of "Outgrowing the Good Christian Girl!" Today we're talking with Matthew Vines, author of "God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case for Same Sex Relationships." Here are the questions we'll be talking about:1. What did you used to believe it meant to honor God with your sexuality? (@4:05)2. What was the fruit of seeing sexuality that way? (@13:10)3. Would you tell us about how you approach the Bible? (@16:05)4. Would you tell us why you wrote "God and the Gay Christian"? (@20:13)5. What would the words for "homosexuality" have meant to Bible readers in the early church? What did "homosexual behavior" look like at that time in history? (@26:43)6. Let's talk about the Bible passage that I used to think ended any conversation on homosexuality: Romans 1. Would you give us just an overview of what your Bible study has revealed about this passage? What about that word "unnatural"? (@34:15)7. What is Scripture's trajectory with gender roles? (@37:45)8. Let's go back to Romans 1! What was same sex behavior commonly associated with at that time? (@40:56)9. So what about the option of celibacy? (@45:07)10. What about other sexual orientations and gender identities? (@47:23)11. Would you tell us more about The Reformation Project and the resources you offer for those who want to learn more? (@49:56)Come back next week as James and I debrief this episode and talk about our personal thoughts on this topic!Love you all! Thank you for your courage to go through this Outgrowing the Good Christian Girl series with me!XOXO, TiffanyMATTHEW'S RESOURCES - highly recommend!!

Remember the ABC reality TV show from a few years ago called “What would you do?”Or the board game called “Scruples?” Christians can often find themselves in all sorts of sticky situations. We might try to use the world’s wisdom to figure out what we’d do in different scenarios, but a better way is to […]

045 - In this solo episode, Heather starts a new tradition - a quarterly Q & A episode! She starts with two questions and some profound thoughts shared by a listener. What parenting skills will help us 1. navigate challenges and 2. Empower our children in their process?"...I would like more on integrating true Christian beliefs. I was taught that it is an abomination & my theological world has been rocked." Heather details six skills to answer the first question. She shares her thoughts and personal experiences to answer the second, as well as wisdom from Susan Cottrell, Colby Martin, and Matthew Vines.Do you have questions?? Email me, message me on Facebook, respond through a survey - whatever is most convenient - and I will answer in a future show!Click HERE for Heather's Coming Out Process Cheat Sheet!Contact Heather directly at hh@chrysalismama.com Do you LOVE Just Breathe? Receive new episodes as soon as they launch, as well as Heather's monthly newsletter Small Exhales and other fabulous resources by:Signing up for her email list HERESharing your feedback HERERemember you can review Just Breathe on your listening app of choice OR you can Review Just Breathe HERERefer friends and family for awesome rewards HERENEW!! Do you want to help spread awareness and let others know they are not alone? Order Heather's new t-shirt(or sweatshirt or mug!) HERE!Connecting through Instagram and Facebook (@chrysalismama) and Twitter (@chrysalismama1)Bookmarking her website as your go-to for LGBTQ education!Remember that you are not alone on this journey!  Support the show (https://paypal.me/ChrysalisMama?locale.x=en_US)

In this episode, we talk with our wonderful friend and fierce LGBTQ+ Christian advocate Lauren Dempster (she/they). They share the story of their winding faith journey and how they came to terms with their bisexuality and non-binary gender identity. She also talks about the painful process of coming out to her non-affirming church and eventually choosing to leave it. You can follow Lauren on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok @laurensgaylife. Their dog also has an Instagram, @milo.the.rescue. You should also follow The Voyage Meetup, @thevoyagemeetup on Insta--it's an awesome group for LGBTQ+ people of faith, where April met Lauren! We meet the second and fourth Tuesdays of the month (which is coincidentally when we'll also be dropping episodes each month!). Lauren brings up Matthew Vines' book God and the Gay Christian in this episode as a resource that helped her, and although we didn't bring this up in the episode, we wanted to explain in the show notes why we would not recommend this book (though we do acknowledge it has been helpful for many people in reconciling their sexuality theologically with their faith). Matthew Vines has managed his own organization, The Reformation Project, quite poorly, particularly when it comes to the work of antiracism--in 2019, the entire staff at RP quit, many of which were people of color. You can get an inside look of what the organizational culture was like in this great article by AnaYelsi Velasco Sanchez- https://medium.com/@anayelsivelascosanchez/when-organizations-devolve-the-whitewashing-of-the-reformation-project-fda9b24cc24f. Also, Matthew Vines' book and the Reformation Project still assert that sex must only be in the context of marriage, and they do not support ethical polyamourous relationships, so we cannot in good conscience support that purity culture bullshit. Here are some books by other LGBTQ+ authors that we would recommend instead (and the last one is an ally but is good if you're looking for something very theology-based): One Coin Found by Emmy Kegler Undivided by Vicky Beeching Does Jesus Really Love Me? By Jeff Chu Bad Theology Kills by Kevin Garcia Changing Our Mind by David Gushee Our social media: @reclaimingthegarden on Insta, @RtGardenPodcast on Twitter. Our personal accounts: @thatpunchabletheaternerd, @April_TheWriter (April is on Twitter and Insta). Also, our podcast account follows a bunch of awesome folks + podcasts in the exvangelical/deconstruction world and progressive Christian world, so if you're looking for more resources, that's a great place to start!

Dr. Christopher Yuan taught the Bible at Moody Bible Institute for over ten years and his speaking ministry on faith and sexuality has reached five continents. He speaks at conferences, on college campuses, and in churches. He has co-authored with his mother their memoir, Out of a Far Country: A Gay Son's Journey to God, A Broken Mother's Search for Hope (over 100,000 copies sold and now in seven languages). He is also the author of Giving a Voice to the Voiceless. Christopher graduated from Moody Bible Institute in 2005 and received a master's in biblical exegesis in 2007 and a doctorate of ministry in 2014. Dr. Yuan's newest book, Holy Sexuality and the Gospel: Sex, Desire, and Relationships Shaped by God's Grand Story, was named 2020 book of the year for social issues by Outreach Magazine. Topics we discussed: Story, background, and how parents came to faith in Christ Mushy Theology and distinguishing from true and almost true Matthew Vines discussion Can't understand sexuality without understanding theological ontology Pathways forward in the mushy, confused church culture Why sexual identity is not a category of personhood Unhealthy view of suffering Practical advice to parents of gay children What to do with feelings of SSA --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-monday-christian/support

In my previous video, "Christianity And The LGBTQ+ Community", I briefly mentioned that I found both Matthew Vines and Colby Martin's to not be incredibly convincing. Though I do think that a good portion of the exegetical work done on the passages is helpful, it seems to continually stop short of addressing the overall understanding of relationships as mentioned throughout scripture. This video is an attempt to clarify any confusion from the statement in my last video, as well as hopefully provide a fuller context of the culture that I wouldn't have been able to do in the original video. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Screw the indefinite hiatus, we're back! This time, it's not by popular demand, but by the demands of Nathan's friend Philip Nadurak, who apparently needed this episode to exist to prove to the world that his Christian theology is backed up by sound doctrine and that he is absolutely not a heretic (ironically or otherwise). But is he actually operating on rational grounds? Or is he a delusional false teacher who still believes in female pastors and the Open Canon of Scripture? You're probably going to have to listen to the episode to find out. Please note that this episode is considered a direct continuation of "Episode 007: 'Heresy'" and "Episode 030: 'Heresy' - Part II". If you have not already listened to those episodes, it is highly recommended that you do so in order to understand what's going on.   Resources Mentioned: Link to Philip's book "Let Genesis Speak for Itself" Link to Joe Dallas' refutation of Matthew Vines

On tonight's programme we respond to Matthew Vines' conversion of his own father to his own form of so-called -gay Christianity-. We discuss the pressure being placed on parents of such LGBTQ individuals.

On tonight's programme we respond to Matthew Vines' conversion of his own father to his own form of so-called “gay Christianity”. We discuss the pressure being placed on parents of such LGBTQ individuals. Megiddo Radio · #443 The LGBTQ Indoctrination of Christian Parents

Matthew Vines tackles the following:• Do biblical teachings on the marriage covenant preclude same-sex marriage or not?• How should we apply the teachings of Jesus to the gay debate?• What does the story of Sodom and Gomorrah really say about human relationships?• Can celibacy be a calling when it is mandated, not chosen?• What did Paul have in mind when he warned against same-sex relations?www.insummarypodcast.comIG: @insummarypodcastSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/insummarypodcast)

This week's podcast episode is a very special episode, featuring singer/songwriter, author and speaker, Staci Frenes. In her new book, “Love Makes Room”, Staci tells her story of coming to understand and fully affirm her daughter's gay orientation within the context of her Christian faith.This episode is a must-listen to anyone who loves someone who identifies as LGBTQ.For more information about Staci:  https://www.stacifrenes.comHer blog post on Huffington post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-i-learned-about-love-when-my-daughter-came-out_b_7692082Books she recommends:“God and The Gay Christian” by Matthew Vines -https://matthewvines.com/“Unclobber” - by Colby Martin“Walking the Bridgeless Canyon” by Kathy Baldock -Helpful websites:https://www.freedhearts.org/FB Mom's Group - “Mama Bears”—— Marcia's blog post:“Loving Better: My Journey towards becoming an affirming Christian”http://marciaramirez.blogspot.com/2019/07/loving-better-my-journey-towards.html This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit marciaramirez.substack.com

In deze aflevering leggen Chris en Sieds uit waarom zij denken dat een homoseksuele relatie kan samen gaan met het geloof. Want het thema is ‘de drieweg'. De zelfbedachte term van Chris en Sieds voor de drie opties die christelijke gays hebben; relatie, single blijven of in een heterorelatie stappen. En wat te denken van; pray the gay away? Chris en Sieds hebben er een pittige mening over. Gelukkig is er ook luchtiger nieuws want Chris is een webshop gestart! En die heet Glitterschaap, je kunt er leuke ‘all inclusive' cadeautjes kopen. In het Roze Kruis een vraag over de Bijbel en een homoseksuele relatie. De tip van de week is deze keer een winactie! Informatie over het boek van Justin Lee en de preek van Matthew Vines uit deze aflevering vind je op onze site. Heb jij een vraag of dilemma voor het 'Roze Kruis'? Stuur in via DM op Instagram of mail naar rozekruis@chrisensiedszijnhet.nl Instagram: @ChrisenSiedszijnhet Website: www.chrisensiedszijnhet.nl Abonneer je op de podcast in jouw favoriete podcast app!

You have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer you who live, but Christ who lives in you. That is if you are truly following Him. Today we're going to discuss how to know if you truly are and the steps on how to get there if you aren't.Follow Us:Our WebsiteInstagramFacebook

RECOMMENDED READING: - How to be Gay by David Halperen - Single Gay Christian Greg Coles - The Significance of Singleness by Christina S Hitchcock - All But Invisible by Nate Collins - Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones - NAD - Homoeroticism in the Biblical World by Martti Nissinen - Mostly Straight: Sexual Fluidity Among Men by Ritch Savin-Williams - Spiritual Friendship: Finding Love in the Church as a Celibate Gay Christian by Wesley Hill - Marriage, A History: How Love Conquered Marriage by Stephanie Coontz - God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines

In this episode Trent continues his rebuttal to Matthew Vines’s revisionist LGBT theology with an examination of what St. Paul says about homosexuality in his letter to the Romans.

Few, if any, sins are as applauded, celebrated, and accepted as same-sex relationships. But, the Bible is clear - homosexuality is a sin. Ciara and Jessi explain how we know this is true, and more importantly, why is isn't unloving to say so. In fact, telling someone they are in sin is the most loving thing we can do for our neighbor. The controversial conversation continues in this week's episode of crosswise.Disclaimer: While, there is no explicit conversation or material in this episode, please be aware of the sensitive and adult subject matter and use discretion while listening with children.RESOURCES:Love The Body by Nancy Pearcey: https://www.amazon.com/Love-Thy-Body-Answering-Questions/dp/0801075726/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=love+thy+body&qid=1613279310&sr=8-1Same Sex Controversy by James White and Jeffrey Niell: https://www.amazon.com/Same-Sex-Controversy-Clarifying-Homosexuality/dp/0764225243/ref=sr_1_1?crid=BB9PMQB9F24R&dchild=1&keywords=same+sex+controversy&qid=1613279267&sprefix=same+sex+contro%2Caps%2C205&sr=8-1Max Lucado Contoversy:https://www.dailywire.com/news/dangerous-theology-national-cathedral-faces-blowback-for-allowing-guest-preacher-who-opposes-homosexualityhttps://www.dailywire.com/news/max-lucado-apologizes-for-hurting-lgbt-community-amid-outrage-following-sermon-at-national-cathedralResources from James White:The Revisionist History of Homosexuality in the Bible Debunked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-zDJPg9Vc&t=2883sJames White Responds to Matthew Vines: https://www.monergism.com/response-matthew-vines-40-questions"Gay Christianity" Refuted: https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/the-dividing-line/gay-christianity-refuted/Voddie Baucham Addresses Arguments by Christians for Homosexuality: https://youtu.be/loSWMYTd9B8RC Sproul sermon on Romans 7 mentioned in the episode: https://www.ligonier.org/learn/sermons/sins-advantage-law/Interview with Jen Hatmaker: https://religionnews.com/2016/10/25/the-politics-of-jen-hatmaker-trump-black-lives-matter-gay-marriage-and-more/

the false teacher for week #21 is Matthew Vines, who teaches that homosexuality is not a sin and has twisted scripture to push that narrative

Matthew Kennedy writes in his article, “It is difficult to find a professing Christian leader who has relinquished the classical Christian position on sexuality on purely exegetical grounds. The most popular voices in the less academic evangelical realm who claim to have changed their minds–Matthew Vines, Justin Lee, and Jen Hatmaker–are either gay or are very close to someone who is. The readiness with which these high-profile Christians abandon their former convictions in light of personal experiences suggests that they had, perhaps unknowingly, already adopted a worldview that undermines the classical Christian understanding of human nature and the relationship between God's law and the human heart. During the sexuality conflict in the Episcopal Church, a common question, thought to be a piercing one by progressives, was: what if one of your children turns out to be gay? I was confused the first time someone asked me that. The revelation that a child of mine might have sinful sexual predispositions would be about as shocking to me as the discovery that my children sometimes tell lies. But when my child lies, I do not change my mind about lying. Likewise, one of my children may one day “come out” but that would not change my mind about human sexuality. For the Christian, the purpose of life is to be conformed to Christ who is the Truth.”This Postmodern Realities episode is a conversation with Journal author Matt Kennedy about his cover article, in the forthcoming 43:3 issue of the Journal entitled, “Why Do The Parents of Gay Children Change Their Theological Minds?” If your already a current subscriber, this will be on it's way to you once it's printed, if not, please subscribe here. https://www.equip.org/product/crj-subscription/We'd also like to invite you to subscribe to the Journal. To subscribe to the Journal, please click here. When you to subscribe to the Journal, you join the team of print subscribers whose paid subscriptions help provide the resources at equip.org that minister to people worldwide. These resources include our free online-exclusive articles, such as this review, as well as our free Postmodern Realities podcast.Another way you can support keeping our resources free is by leaving us a tip. A tip is just a small amount, like $3 or $5, which is the cost for some of a latte, lunch out, or coffee drink. To leave a tip, click here. https://www.equip.org/product/pmr-jnl-tip/Other related articles:When Someone You Love Says, “I'm Gay”Don't miss an episode; please subscribe to the Postmodern Realities podcast wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Please help spread the word about Postmodern Realities by giving us a rating and review when you subscribe to the podcast. The more ratings and reviews we have, the more new listeners can discover our content.

Can Christians be gay? This week, the Woman Beings sit down to tackle this mountain of a question with Jared Edskerud, an aspiring author and advocate for LGBTQ+ in the church. He shares his own journey growing up gay in conservative Christian culture and how he eventually came out and married another man after 28 years of struggle. Resources Mentioned: Boy Erased on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3loKNWT God and The Gay Christian by Matthew Vines: https://bit.ly/2Vhhf2S Follow Jared: @jaredpatrick89 --- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/womanbeingpodcast/ Website: https://www.womanbeingcommunity.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Part 2 with Angela includes some resources that have been helpful for her. If you would enjoy joining our deconstruction community, reach out to me about our weekly Sunday evening Zoom and private Facebook group. Just email me at stacey@clarityunleashed.com.     Resources List Rob Bell, author of Love Wins: https://robbell.com/ The Bible for Normal People podcast: https://peteenns.com/podcast/ Resources from Rachel Held Evans: https://rachelheldevans.com/ Sarah Bessey article: https://sarahbessey.com/penny-in-the-air-my-story-of-becoming-affirming/ BT Harman: https://www.bluebabiespink.com/ Jeff Chu, author of Does Jesus Really Love Me?: http://byjeffchu.com/about/ Matthew Vines, author of God and the Gay Christian: http://www.matthewvines.com/

Greg revisits his discussion from last week about respecting the original meaning of a text, then he answers questions about discerning between different views and adjusting how you communicate according to how people hear your words. Topics:Commentary: More on respecting the original meaning of a text (00:00)How do we discern between two viewpoints when they both claim to be the result of thoughtful study? (31:00)How do we reconcile the idea that we ought to read texts the way the author meant them with the idea that in interpersonal relationships we ought to adjust what we say according to how people will interpret our words? (50:00)Mentioned on the Show: Reality Student Apologetics Conference – November 13–14 in Minneapolis, MN; February 26–27 in Dallas, TXUpcoming events with Stand to Reason speakersDan Rather’s tweetA Reformation the Church Doesn’t Need (Answering Revisionist Pro-Gay Theology) Part 1 and Part 2 by Alan Shlemon and Greg KouklRelated Links:Sean McDowell and Matthew Vines on the Bible and Homosexuality by Amy Hall

By Ryan Leasure In this post, we’re asking the question: What does Paul say about homosexuality? To find out, we need to investigate Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10. Let’s consider each text in turn. Romans 1:26-27 This passage is probably the most significant biblical text addressing homosexuality. In the broader context, we read that God reveals his wrath from heaven against all ungodliness. Even though people know God exists through natural revelation, they have suppressed the truth and worshipped idols instead. Therefore, God hands them over to their depraved minds. Verses 26-27 give us an example of this depravity: For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature (para physin); and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. So what exactly does Paul condemn here? Matthew Vines, author of God and the Gay Christian notes, “Paul wasn’t condemning the expression of same-sex orientation as opposed to the expression of an opposite-sex orientation. He was condemning excess as opposed to moderation.“1 Elsewhere he states that Paul “explicitly described the behavior he condemned as lustful. He made no mention of love, fidelity, monogamy, or commitment.”2 That is to say, and Paul doesn’t condemn homosexuality in general. He merely condemns the excesses or abuses that were common in the ancient world. These excesses included pederasty, master/slave rape, or prostitution. If Paul, according to Vines, would have seen examples of committed, monogamous same-sex partners, he would have celebrated them. In response to Vines, I simply note that nowhere does Paul limit his condemnation to specific types of homosexuality like master/slave relations, pederasty, or prostitution. Rather, he condemns homosexuality in general terms. If he wanted to condemn pederasty, for example, he could have simply used the Greek word paiderastes. If he meant to condemn a master appeasing his sexual desire with his male slave, then why state that they were “consumed with passion for one another?” Doesn’t that sound like two consenting adults? Furthermore, why mention the women engaging with one another when we have no record of female master/slave or pedophilia relations from the ancient world? Contrary to Vines, Paul condemns homosexuality in general (not limited to specific abuses) and roots his condemnation in creation itself. This explains why he writes that homosexual activity is an “exchange of natural relations that are “contrary to nature” (para physin in the Greek). Other revisionists (not Vines) take this to mean that some men’s sexual appetites were so insatiable, that they went against their heterosexual nature to have sexual relations with other men. In other words, “going against nature” simply means going against one’s heterosexual orientation. Thus, the text doesn’t condemn those with a homosexual orientation engaging in sexual activity. But this explanation fails on multiple fronts. Not only do ancient authors repeatedly use the phrase “para physin” to refer to homosexual activity (not going against one’s orientation), Paul goes to great lengths to state that his position is rooted in the creation narrative of Genesis 1-3. In the surrounding context, he uses phrases such as “creation of the world” (1:20), “creator” (1:25), “birds and animals and creeping things” (1:23), “women” and “men” (1:26-27), “image” (1:23), “lie” (1:25), “shame” (1:27), and “death” (1:32). These allusions to the creation narrative indicate that Paul sees homosexuality as an affront to God’s design for marriage as outlined in Genesis 1-2. Self-professed lesbian Bernadette Brooten writes in her scholarly book Love between Women: I believe that Paul used the word “exchanged” to indicate that...

Matthias Roberts was forever changed when he discovered there were others who had integrated their faith and sexuality. Years later, he found there weren't many resources for queer people of faith, which led him to starting a podcast to address just that. Even more, he saw the need for work around healing in our bodies, which led him to becoming a therapist. We talk about coming out, relationships, sex, and more. Matthias can be found across social media at @matthiasroberts. His website is matthiasroberts.com and his podcast, Queerology, can be found wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also find his new book, "Beyond Shame," at your local bookstore or bookshop.org. Other books mentioned in this episode were "God & The Gay Christian" by Matthew Vines and "On Being Liked" by James Alison. You can support the podcast financially at anchor.fm/beautifultension, by leaving a rating or review, and sharing it with anyone you think might enjoy it. Make sure to subscribe to stay up-to-date on new episodes. Thanks for your support! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

On tonight's programme we respond to Matthew Vines' presentation called -For the Bible Tells Me So- Hermeneutics and the Debate About LGBTQ Inclusion-, which was given on November 8, 2019, at Plymouth Church United Church of Christ in Seattle, Washington.

On tonight’s programme we respond to Matthew Vines’ presentation called “For the Bible Tells Me So: Hermeneutics and the Debate About LGBTQ Inclusion”, which was given on November 8, 2019, at Plymouth Church United Church of Christ in Seattle, Washington. Related Shows:

In this episode Leah and Andrew interview seminary student Russell Almand about his journey of growing up in the church and realizing he was gay. In part 2 Russell talks about several biblical passages around homosexuality and dove into Romans 1:26-27. Russell emphasizes that biblical passages on homosexuality should be the beginning of conversations with others rather than the end. Next he gives his advice to the church and other gay Christians as they seek to love the gay community well while maintaining a traditional biblical understanding of marriage. Russell gives clarity, theological depth, and compassion in his explanations and reflections. In part 1, Russell shared his story, challenges, and blessings that come from being a gay Christian.Support: All profits go back into creating the podcast.Patreon:www.patreon.com/apologeticssimplifiedTeespring Shop:https://teespring.com/stores/apologetics-simplifiedLet’s get social!Follow me on…Instagram: www.instagram.com/apologeticssimplifiedFacebook: www.facebook.com/apologeticssimplifiedTwitter: www.twitter.com/ApoloSimplifiedRecommended Resources:Born Again This Way by Rachel Gilson : https://amzn.to/2JEujcIA War of Loves by David Bennett : https://amzn.to/33S5jYIGod and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines : https://amzn.to/33ND1igSpiritual Friendship by Wesley Hill : https://amzn.to/2Jwu9V3Washed and Waiting by Wesley Hill : https://amzn.to/39nCZif

In this episode Leah has a conversation with her friend Carrie Cooper about the place of women and gay Christians in the church. Carrie and I had been working on a paper on these topics and are excited to share it with the listeners! This episode provides suggestions and resources on how to connect with women and gay Christians better. Part 1 focused on women's issues and part 2 mostly focuses on gay Christian issues.Support: All profits go back into creating the podcast.Patreon:www.patreon.com/apologeticssimplifiedTeespring Shop:https://teespring.com/stores/apologetics-simplifiedLet’s get social!Follow me on…Instagram: www.instagram.com/apologeticssimplifiedFacebook: www.facebook.com/apologeticssimplifiedTwitter: www.twitter.com/ApoloSimplifiedRecommended Resources:Moral Combat: How Sex Divided American Christians and Fractured American Politics by R. Marie Griffith : https://amzn.to/2wvK2IpA War of Loves by David Bennett : https://amzn.to/33S5jYIGod and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines : https://amzn.to/33ND1igSpiritual Friendship by Wesley Hill : https://amzn.to/2Jwu9V3Washed and Waiting by Wesley Hill : https://amzn.to/39nCZif

2020’s Faith series has brought us incredible leaders across decades, generations, denominations, and ideologies. We've listened to what makes them excited to be in the faith right now and what's been challenging. We've talked about ways to build a brighter, more beautiful church. As we wrap this series, we're going to dig in a little deeper to one specific place, and we’ve enlisted three faith leaders to help us navigate through a much-needed discussion. And these faith leaders are members of the LGBTQ+ community—because it is possible to be a part of a church that is passionate about Jesus and affirming to LGBTQ+ groups. Matthew Vines is the founder of the Reformation Project, a nonprofit that educates Christians about the biblical case for LGBTQ+ inclusion. He's also the author of “God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships.” Michael Vazquez is the director of the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's Religion and Faith Program in DC. He leads efforts there to advance equity initiatives in faith communities. B.T. Harman is a content creator and speaker. His blog and podcast “Blue Babies Pink” shed some beautiful light on what it is like to love Jesus, love the church, and be gay. Each of these men has deep commitment to their faith and to the church, and during their formative years, they had to reckon with the truth that they were gay—and they experienced the full spectrum of pain and discovery that so often comes with this particular journey. Today we ask some hard questions: what does it mean to hold one another and our faith leaders accountable? And when it comes to affirmation, what's public and what's private? How can we be the best allies for our LGBTQ+ friends? How can we listen and avoid “canceling” one another if we don’t agree, or are there times when it’s called for? Our conversation is fully open, filled with grace and understanding, helping us to view things from different perspectives in the most rewarding way possible. 

 In recent years, more and more Christian churches who believe same-sex marriage is morally wrong are recommending life-long celibacy as a solution for gay and lesbian Christians. This is an acknowledgement that sexual orientation doesn’t often, if at all, respond to change attempts.Yet our society isn’t built for celibacy. Perhaps that could be changed. But even so, how is one to understand celibacy? How does the Bible talk about celibacy? Is celibacy ever offered as a solution for avoiding sexual sin or specifically for avoiding same-sex sexuality? And how have LGBTQ people experienced celibacy as a solution for same-sex attraction?In this episode we interview Matthew Vines. Matthew is the author of God and the Gay Christian. He’s also the founder and executive director of The Reformation Project. You can find out more about his work at the links below: Book: God and the Gay Christian The Reformation Project The Reformation Project’s Youtube Channel The Reformation Project’s 2020 Conference Questions for reflection and group discussion:  Do you believe all people are capable of living life well as celibate for life? Or do you believe some people are made for relationships?  What difference does it make? If the experiences of LGBTQ people trying to live out theology that excludes same-sex marriage really are damaging and harmful for some people, does that make a difference theologically? Is there a point at which these experiences alone cause you to wonder whether the promises of scripture are really being fulfilled in this theology? Where might that line be?  Whose voice carries the weight of influence with you? How do you go about deciding what the impact of established theology is? Especially if you are straight, what is the best way to go about answering these questions?  Side B Christians have worked hard to establish social structures so they can live their lives as celibate, but not alone. What benefit does this provide to the church at large?  Have you seen Christian churches challenge straight people to ask themselves whether they are called to commit to life-long celibacy? How would such decisions be made? How does a straight person know if they are called to celibacy?  How does a gay or bisexual person know if they are called to celibacy? Are gay and lesbian people automatically called to celibacy, whether or not they demonstrate a calling to celibacy in the way a straight person would?If you identify as straight: What would be different about your life if all romantic relationships were off limits to you from the time you were an adolescent until the end of your life? What experiences would be taken from your life, and how valuable are those experiences? Are there positive aspects of this? Would those positives be worth what you would be giving up? How would you be treated differently from others in your faith community?If you are attracted to the same gender: What would be different about your life if your natural attractions were not considered automatically wrong? What if you could marry anyone based on their character, the health of the relationships, and of course their availability? How would your life be different? What experiences would you likely have that you don’t have now? What would you have to give up that is positive? How would this change the way you relate to others in your faith community?If you are bisexual: Pick your own question, it’s a bisexual perogative.

Katy Ray is a writer for Qutie App which prides to be a comprehensive and inclusive platform tailored specifically for the LGBTQ community. Katy is an educator who is passionate about broadening the US school curriculum to include LGBTQ issues.  Katie shares how she was unaccepted in her religious home which led her to find her own meaning of faith. Matthew Vines’ book “God and the Gay Christian" helped her along her journey. Matthew Vines Book: “ God and the Gay Christian” http://www.matthewvines.com/   Qutie App : https://qutieapp.com/   The Reformation Project: https://reformationproject.org/ The Q Christian Network: https://www.qchristian.org/ Our Bible App: https://www.ourbibleapp.com/ God and the Gay Christian: http://www.godandthegaychristian.com/#home   Sink your teeth into…   www.theforbiddenapplepodcast.com   www.instagram.org/theforbiddenapplepodcast

Former Christian pastor Heather Beamish opens up about her coming-out journey. She explores themes of faith, theologies, relationships, attraction, celebration, and diversity on this episode of Body and Wine: Conversations on Sex and Spirituality. Episode Page Notes: Generous Space Toronto https://www.facebook.com/generousspace/ "Our mission: Discipling Christ-followers to work together to eliminate fear, division, and hostility at the intersection of faith, gender, and sexuality. Our vision: Inclusive Christ-centered communities marked by a sense of belonging, authenticity, and diversity." The Liturgists Podcast https://theliturgists.com/ "The Liturgists are a global community working to subvert the barriers our society builds around religion, race, gender, ability, and sexuality. Our work is centered around compelling discussion, non-judgmental community, and thoughtful, evocative art. We believe there is room at the table for all who are hungry." The Reformation Project: A Bible-based, gospel-centred approach to LGBTQ inclusion https://www.reformationproject.org/ Matthew Vines http://www.matthewvines.com/ Listener call-outs! Have a story to tell? Something to say about sexuality and/or spirituality? Record your voice for up to 10 minutes of audio time and send over to podcast@charliethegray.com and we'll post in our mini-episodes as we are able and at our discretion. Unsure about it? Shoot us an e-mail an let's chat! Any more questions? Feel free to message at podcast@charliethegray.com, and follow/like/share us on Instagram @bodyandwinepodcast Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/BodyandWinePodcast)

In this special episode, we interview McKrae Game, the former leader of one of the largest ex-gay organizations in the country. Conversion therapy refers to any attempt to change a person's sexual orientation, whether through psychotherapy, pastoral counseling, or support group programs. Recommended Resources The Trevor Project: https://www.thetrevorproject.org QChristian: https://www.qchristian.org Books on the Affirming View: Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate (Justin Lee): https://www.amazon.com/Torn-Rescuing-Gospel-Gays-vs-Christians-Debate/dp/1455514306 God and the Gay Christian (Matthew Vines): https://www.amazon.com/God-Gay-Christian-Biblical-Relationships/dp/160142518X Scripture, Ethics, and the Possibility of Same-Sex Relationships (Karen Keen): https://www.amazon.com/Scripture-Ethics-Possibility-Same-Sex-Relationships/dp/0802876544 Books on the Traditional View: Washed and Waiting (Wesley Hill): https://www.amazon.com/Washed-Waiting-Reflections-Faithfulness-Homosexuality/dp/0310534194 Single, Gay, Christian: A Personal Journey of Faith and Sexual Identity (Gregory Coles): https://www.amazon.com/Single-Gay-Christian-Personal-Identity/dp/0830845127

Its Pride week in our home town. So, we went through an article in Time Magazine by “Gay affirming Christian” Matthew Vines titled “10 reasons why God loves gay Christians”. Scripture: Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-28 , 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

Lily talks with Krissi Ashton, an ally to the LGBTQ Christian community and an advocate for Christian parents with LGBTQ children. Krissi was raised Catholic and then attended an evangelical church for years as an adult.Then her son came out.At this pivotal moment, Krissi was faced with a choice - to believe everything the church had taught her about what it means to be gay, or to educate herself on this topic. After much thoughtful research and deep dedication to understanding her true faith, Krissi found hope for inclusion in the church. It’s now her mission to demonstrate to Christian parents that they do not have to choose between their faith and their LGBTQ children.To learn more about the resources Krissi mentions during her interview, check out God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines (http://www.godandthegaychristian.com/#home) and head over to The Reformation Project's website at https://www.reformationproject.org/. Production assistance for this episode provided by Wendel Topper: https://createk.us/.

Recorded live at Vanderbilt Divinity School in Nashville, TN, we reconnect with season 1 guests, Zack Eccleston, Maria Michonski, and Lee Catoe, about the importance of storytelling for LGBTQIA+ people of faith. Hearing their voices again was a reminder that our stories are never completely finished. We catch up with where they have been since their episodes from 2018, how telling their story on the show impacted them, and how they view their faith and their communities today. Connect with the panel and listen to their original episodes: Zack Eccleston (@zackleston), Episode 101 Maria Michonski (@mini_michonski), Episode 102 Lee Catoe (@locatoe), Episode 105 We mentioned a few resources throughout the episode, including Unashamed: A Coming Out Guide for LGBTQ Christians by Amber Cantorna and The Reformation Project by Matthew Vines. Also mentioned was the story of Jesus healing the Gerasene Demoniac (Mark 5:1-20). Out Loud is a podcast by and for queer people of faith in the South. Follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and join our mailing list for updates. Support the show financially by becoming a Patreon member and receive exclusive content and merchandise. This episode was recorded Live at the Vanderbilt Divinity School Arts Room: Sound Assistance - Dave Perkins, Will Potter, Vanderbilt Institute for Digital Learning Event Setup - Katie Minnis, Nate Partee Food & Drink - Al's Pub Poem: “Narrative Theology #1” used with permission of Pádraig Ó Tuama. Found in Readings from the Book of Exile, Pádraig Ó Tuama (Canterbury Press, 2012). Music: Acoustic Meditation 2 by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Artist: http://audionautix.com/

I've said before on BreakPoint that if your God never tells you to do anything you don't want to do, your god is probably you. If there were an Americanized translation of the Apostle's Creed for today, it would be something like this: “I believe in God the Father, Almighty, who always supports my feelings.” This kind of self-centered faith is epidemic both within the church and without, in conservative congregations and progressive ones. The most recent case in point is Democratic presidential candidate and South Bend, Indiana mayor, Pete Buttigieg. At a recent fundraiser, he said of his same-sex “marriage”: “[it] has made me a better man [and]...moved me closer to God. If being gay was a choice, it was a choice that was made far above my pay grade.” He then added, somewhat out-of-the-blue: “That's the thing I wish the Mike Pences of the world would understand, that if you have a problem with who I am, your problem is not with me. Your quarrel, sir, is with my creator.” This was, of course, a political cheap shot. Mike Pence's anti-LGBTQ reputation was secured a long time ago when, as governor of Indiana, he supported religious freedom legislation that sent progressives into hysterics (even though it was a mirror state-level copy of federal legislation that Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy had proposed). As Mayor Pete and the long list of Democratic presidential contenders gear up for their primaries, they have to pander to their liberal base. And what better way to do that than bashing the guy whose boss you hope to unseat? For his part, Vice-President Pence refused the bait, offering compliments instead for Mayor Pete's years of public service and adding, “He knows me better than that.” But Mayor Pete's comments are worth thinking through, if for no other reason than it would've been unthinkable not that long ago to try to enlist God in support of homosexual relationships. Feelings have become so central to personal identity across our culture, even in religion, that to suggest the Bible, God, the Church, or any other authority has a right to question those feelings is tantamount to heresy. Buttigieg and authors like Matthew Vines, who wrote the book, “God and the Gay Christian,” are in essence saying, “God made me this way—and I know this because He would never ask me to go against my feelings.” Unsurprisingly, the secular press has claimed that this new culturally-conformed Christianity as articulated by Mayor Pete will, of course, win the day. Terry Mattingly at Get Religion noted USA Today's almost “evangelistic tone” in reporting Buttigieg's words, and how they wrote as if the mayor's reading of the Bible is a defensible theological position. The reality, of course, is that the mayor's quarrel isn't with Mike Pence. His quarrel is with the clear texts of Scripture that both identify what marriage is and what it is for, as well as how homosexual behavior is sinful. His quarrel is with natural law, reflected in the biological roles our bodies play and the universally embraced connection of marriage and procreation, even by societies not influenced by Christian morality. And of course, his quarrel is with 2,000 years of unanimous Christian witness on marriage and sexual morality. As Everett Piper wrote at the Washington Times in reply to Mayor Pete, we don't get to make up our own version of Christianity. The faith delivered once for all is a faith delivered—it was delivered to the saints. It's a revealed faith. The religions we make up based on our feelings are different religions altogether. Buttigieg may feel that his same-sex relationship has somehow brought him closer to God, but it has not. “If you love me,” Jesus says in John 14:15, “you will keep my commandments.” Now, gay people aren't singled out by Jesus' words here, but they are absolutely included. And to be clear, Mike Pence's feelings on the issue aren't of any more authority than Mayor Pete's feelings. No, this decision was made way above either man's pay grade.

¡En este episodio tenemos a Matthew Vines! Autor de God and The Gay Christian y fundador de The Reformation Project; Matthew platica y practica conmigo su español mientras hablamos sobre la esperanza de una iglesia mundial inclusiva, sus objetivos y sus motivaciones. Al final le pregunto si de verdad cree que es posible que Latinoamérica avance en esta conversación de inclusión así como lo están haciendo países angloparlantes. Así que te recomiendo escuchar todo ;)

This is a tricky one, especially for those who have a genuine desire to take the Bible seriously. The argument for inclusion that J. R. Daniel Kirk presents, however, is one that I find convincing, and it is the best one of the many that I have read or heard (including by Matthew Vines, Gene Robinson, and others). Richard Hay's compassionate argument against affirmation is also presented. Many podcasts on this topic tend to focus on the emotional aspect of the issue, on the increased risk of suicide among queer teens, etc. I think those have their place, but for many Christians, we simply NEED a good argument about what to do with this stubborn text -- the Bible -- that really does seem to stand against homosexual activity. Daniel presents such an argument. Find an open & affirming church: gaychurch.org Margaret Farley 60 Minutes clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI James Brownson’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630 https://twitter.com/jrdkirk Seth Roberts playlist: https://open.spotify.com/user/dankoch/playlist/43QDpk1CQ098K2PpFcFVUy?si=BDa2luwVTC-GwdJpnXg85Q Join the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: patreon.com/dankoch YHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: youhavepermissionpod.com Join Dan's email list: dankochwords.com Email Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com Artwork by http://sprungle.co/

"God and the Gay Christian" author Matthew Vines chats with me about his journey to becoming a gay Christian leader, being in a new relationship, responding to his critics, politics, and more. For more: http://geekyjustin.com Support this podcast: http://patreon.com/geekyjustin

Matthew Vines is the author of God and the Gay Christian and founder of The Reformation Project, an organization seeking to reform church teaching on sexual orientation and gender identity. In this episode, he talks about the state of the queer faith movement in today's political atmosphere. Matthew's work is responsible for bringing the national conversation around queer Christianity to a fever pitch with the publication of his book causing countless faith leaders and denominations to contend with his argument that one can, indeed, be queer and Christian. He has been featured by Time Magazine, The New York Times, Politico, NPR, and many others. Matthew can be found on Twitter, @vinesmatthew and at matthewvines.com. The Reformation Project can be found on Twitter, @reformationp and at reformationproject.org. Queerology is on Twitter and Instagram, @queerologypod

In this episode I sat down with pastor, professor, and LGBTQ rights activist Dr. Phil Snider to talk about how to read some of the verses that the church typically uses to push away and/or condemn the LGBTQ community through a more progressive, welcoming, and affirming lens.   Show Notes: Justice Calls by Phil Snider Preaching as Resistance by Phil Snider God and the Gay Chrisitan by Matthew Vines

Host Brady Toops sits down with former Christian pastor, Jennifer Mayeaux, who is now living openly as a transgender woman. Jennifer tells her story from being born Christopher to getting married, to receiving a masters degree in theology at Dallas Theological Seminary to full-time pastor, and ultimately to present day living as a transgender woman. To listen to the end of her story as well as hear Jennifer respond to the 10 big spiritual questions of Season 1, check out the bonus episode on Patreon. Join The Unravel Community today and become a patron to get exclusive access to bonus content as well as to dive deeper with Brady and others who love to explore spirituality. It's also a great way to support this podcast! Connect with Brady on Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook as well as find music and upcoming concerts at bradytoops.com. Also, check out theunravelpodcast.com for more information or to sign up for email updates to stay tuned for all the latest happenings. Jennifer recommended reading God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines. Follow Jennifer Mayeaux on Twitter or find her on Facebook. This podcast is a part of The Liturgists Network.

We could talk about the church forever. Our special guest is TERRI SMITH in conversation about the church & the LGBTQ community. Terri discusses the challenges of confronting her own beliefs, wrestling with scripture, accepting and reconciling with her son, changing her understanding of God, and seeking to better the church and other people of faith. For years she tried to "pray the gay away" for her teenage son and well into his twenties but a series of circumstances helped Terri "repent" (change her thinking). Now she is a new woman, a new mom & a new follower of Jesus. Having a gay son was the best thing that ever happened to her. Resources: 1-https://www.facebook.com/WeRMamaBears/ 2-https://www.amazon.com/Torn-Rescuing-Gospel-Gays-vs-Christians-Debate/dp/1455514306/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1532303246&sr=1-1&keywords=torn+justin+lee 3-https://www.reformationproject.org/ (Matthew Vines) 4-https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/for-the-love-with-jen-hatmaker/e/54045 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/holycannoli/support

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What does it mean to be an Evangelical today? We talk with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project as well as author/speaker Jen Hatmaker about Evangelicalism in 2018.

What does it mean to be an Evangelical today? We talk with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project as well as author/speaker Jen Hatmaker about Evangelicalism in 2018.

Today, in Part 2 of our interview with Staley Munroe, she shares her faith journey. She dives into the nature of God, what love really looks like, and how to “put out fear with love.” Her approach to finding common ground with the people who have the most fear is inspiring.   From a young age, Staley had a desire to understand life from a spiritual angle. She spent many nights studying scripture and pondering the meaning of passages. Her findings always led her to the belief that God is full of grace, acceptance, and most important, love.   Her journey in faith was (and still is) a powerful, fulfilling relationship with the divine and the people in her life. She had made love her mantra and strives to impact people gently, with love. Her goal is to find common ground with people, honor them, and give them the opportunity to have a positive experience.   Staley gracefully exists on the fringe of two very different worlds. She balances between the LGBTQ community and a conventional Christian community. If everyone approached differences like Staley, our world would be a better place. There could never be too much kindness or too much love. And as Staley emphasizes, all people are children of God.   During Staley’s journey, she battled the paralyzing effects of gender norms. She has also experienced the world from two sides of the spectrum. In her own worlds, Staley felt white male privilege slip away as she transitioned to her true self. Her unique perspective offers insight into how we can combat gender norms and find more connection with those who view the world differently.   Staley’s story is the story of many people, and she gives a voice to others who have had the same struggles and the same triumphs. Speaking out with true love and concern can never end in a loss. There are only people to love, relationships to nurture, minds to be changed and progress to be made.   Key Takeaways [:02] Staley Munroe is introduced. This episode is Part 2 of a two-part series. [:36] Today Staley’s spiritually and faith are discussed in detail. [1:35] Staley dives right in talking about her faith journey starting when she was young. God is accepting and loving. [2:22] Staley mentions God and the Gay Christian, a book by Matthew Vines that explores the context of biblical scripture as it pertains to LGBTQ people historically. [3:33] Staley expresses how she would not have been able to make it through her transition without her belief in faith, hope and love; emphasis is made on love. [4:58] Staley is on the fringe of two very different groups of society. The LGBTQ community and a conservative Christian community. [6:15] Relationship equity with a person is important when talking about faith. Building bridges and finding ways to help people is discussed. [9:00] Reference is made to the recent Presidential election when both the candidates were able to offer sincere compliments to each other. The power of honoring another person is talked about. [11:30] Finding common ground in our personal relationships is equally powerful, and opens the doors to potentially more love. [13:30] All people are children of God and people do the best they can with what they know and their experiences. [17:21] Gender norms/roles/biases exist and affected Staley (and all of us) in her experience. [20:34] Love is the countermeasure to fear. [22:34] Staley has an interesting perspective. The world has viewed her as both a white male and a woman; white male privilege is real. [27:00] Make room for feelings. [27:31] Preferred gender pronouns are discussed. How to approach a conversation with a person respectfully. [29:38] Thank you for listening. Follow us on Twitter @prtini, and use the hashtag #rewritetherules. Please like, share, and review if you like what you heard today.   Mentioned in this Episode: Prtini.com/about/ @prtini @silverwindrider Prizmnews.com/about/ Godandthegaychristian.com/#home @VinesMatthew Soundcloud.com/adamsinger  

When internet friends become real friends, it gets too real. Today, Satchell Drakes, a content creator and host of Forbe's OVERWORLD podcast joins Kevin to talk about being queer, POC and Christian in a world dominated by cis, straight, white dudes: the world of video games. They also talk about faith (classic), Satch's story, and even gush over mutual friend, Matthew Vines. ... You can connect with Satchell Drakes on twitter @SatchellDrakes, insta @stachell.drakes , youtube.com/satchbagsgood and listen to him on Forbe's OVERWORLD podcast, available wherever you listen to your podcasts. ... Support this podcast by becoming a sustaining partner at Patreon.com/thekevingarcia Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/a-tiny-revolution/donations --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tinyrevolution/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You sent questions. I answer them...or at least tell you my thoughts. Are there examples of same sex relationships in the Bible? Doesn't Genesis 1-2 and Ephesians 5 imply God only wants relationships between men and women? Where can I go to learn more?  Check out these resources to dig deeper: Books On Same Sex Love... God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines Torn by Justin Lee Changing Our Mind by David Gushee (I don't love some of his final conclusions, but the book is a good overview of the texts) Bible, Gender, Sexuality by James Brownson On the Bible... Making Sense of the Bible by Adam Hamilton Disarming Scripture by Derek Flood What is the Bible by Rob Bell Podcasts The Enduring Relevance, Astonishing Power and Unexpected Brilliance of the Bible on The Robcast "The Bible and the Gay Christian" with Matthew Vines on The Bible for Normal People The Clobbercast: Sexuality, the Bible and More on Homebrewed Christianity

On this episode of the Bible For Normal People, Pete and Jared talk with Matthew Vines, author of God and the Gay Christian, about the complexities of biblical interpertation surrounding human sexuality.

There has been a moral revolution in America over the last few years, changing how people view homosexuality and other related topics. One recent expectation is the idea of complete "tolerance" of all sexual perspectives. But doesn't the Bible tell us that certain sins are an "abomination" to the Lord? If so, how should we feel about the culture shift? And how should we feel towards sexual sin such as homosexuality? In this episode, Kenny launches a mini-series about homosexuality, answering several questions brought up by regular listeners. The first question Kenny tackles is the idea of hating homosexuality. Is it Biblical to hate homosexuality? Should we hate it more or less than other sins? Kenny answers this by giving us four insights: 1- We should want people to experience God's best for them, and our passion for God's design in sexuality should supersede our passion to be against homosexuality 2- We should hate all sin and should find all sin disgusting 3- We should ask God for his grace and power to see a person separate from their sin; we ought to seek to separate a person's sinful choices from that person's identity 4- We ought to hate our own sin more than another person's sin Recommended Resources:  What's the Meaning of Sex (Denny Burk) Transforming Homosexuality (Denny Burk & Heath Lambert) What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? (by Kevin DeYoung) God and the Gay Christian (multiple authors, edited by Al Mohler) Tim Keller's Response to Matthew Vines & Ken Wilson Resources from Rosaria Butterfield Christopher Yuan's Response to Justin Lee's "Torn" Christopher Yuan's Response to Matthew Vines Is Gay the New Black? (Video) How Can Homosexuality Be Wrong If It Doesn't Harm Anyone? (Video)

This episode features a conversation with Rev. Kevin Wright from the Riverside Church in NYC. We talk about his journey, LGBTQ affirmation, and more. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain. Follow the show on Twitter @exvangelicalpod Like the show on Facebook at facebook.com/exvangelicalpod Follow Rev. Kevin Wright on Twitter @kevinkwright. Read Kevin's blog at kevinkwright.com Read Kevin's posts on the Huffington Post at www.huffingtonpost.com/author/kwright-488 Show Notes: Harry Emerson Fosdick: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Emerson_Fosdick Martin Luther King, Jr. Gospel of Freedom: Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Letter from Birmingham Jail and the Struggle That Changed a Nation: amzn.to/2buQsu4 Reinhold Niebuhr en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Niebuhr Moral Man & Immoral Society: amzn.to/2bZN6hO Dietrich Bonhoeffer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer The Cost of Discipleship: amzn.to/2bu3g6P Karl Barth: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Barth The Epistle to the Romans: amzn.to/2bubsnm Saint Augustine of Hippo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo The Confessions: amzn.to/2bubmfJ Thomas Merton en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Merton Seven Storey Mountain: amzn.to/2bxG1mG Dorothy Day en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Day Selected Writing: amzn.to/2bLEkoZ Richard Hays en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Hays The Moral Vision of the New Testament: amzn.to/2bxJ7qq Allen Verhey Remembering Jesus: Christian Community, Scripture, and the Moral Life amzn.to/2bM085t Saint Maybe by Anne Tyler: amzn.to/2bxHyJs Love Wins by Rob Bell: amzn.to/2bucGPl God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines: amzn.to/2bxI4qE Interlude Music: Troparion of Kassiani: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCRGQwf5XmY "They Will Know We Are Christians by Our Love" by Peter Scholtes available at folkmass.us.

This episode features a conversation with Rev. Kevin Wright from the Riverside Church in NYC. We talk about his journey, LGBTQ affirmation, and more. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain. Follow the show on Twitter @exvangelicalpod Like the show on Facebook at facebook.com/exvangelicalpod Follow Rev. Kevin Wright on Twitter @kevinkwright. Read Kevin's blog at kevinkwright.com Read Kevin's posts on the Huffington Post at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/kwright-488 Show Notes: Harry Emerson Fosdick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Emerson_Fosdick Martin Luther King, Jr. Gospel of Freedom: Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Letter from Birmingham Jail and the Struggle That Changed a Nation: http://amzn.to/2buQsu4 Reinhold Niebuhr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Niebuhr Moral Man & Immoral Society: http://amzn.to/2bZN6hO Dietrich Bonhoeffer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer The Cost of Discipleship: http://amzn.to/2bu3g6P Karl Barth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Barth The Epistle to the Romans: http://amzn.to/2bubsnm Saint Augustine of Hippo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo The Confessions: http://amzn.to/2bubmfJ Thomas Merton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Merton Seven Storey Mountain: http://amzn.to/2bxG1mG Dorothy Day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Day Selected Writing: http://amzn.to/2bLEkoZ Richard Hays https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Hays The Moral Vision of the New Testament: http://amzn.to/2bxJ7qq Allen Verhey Remembering Jesus: Christian Community, Scripture, and the Moral Life http://amzn.to/2bM085t Saint Maybe by Anne Tyler: http://amzn.to/2bxHyJs Love Wins by Rob Bell: http://amzn.to/2bucGPl God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines: http://amzn.to/2bxI4qE Interlude Music: Troparion of Kassiani: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCRGQwf5XmY "They Will Know We Are Christians by Our Love" by Peter Scholtes available at http://folkmass.us.

In this special hour-long interview, I talk with Matthew Vines, author of “God and the Gay Christian,” and Rev. Adam Phillips, pastor of Christ Church, Portland about the tragedy in Orlando. We also discuss both what its like for a gay man like Vines, who is part of a conservative Evangelical community, to come out,… Read more about Orlando, God and the Gay Christian (Matthew Vines)

In this episode, Kenny interviews author, speaker, and college professor Dr. Preston Sprinkle about homosexuality, but more specifically about how Christians ought to engage with people who identify as gay. Dr. Sprinkle makes it clear: Homosexuality is not about an "issue" to be dealt with, but it is much more about people than need to be loved. Dr. Sprinkle gained national attention several years ago when he co-wrote the best selling book Erasing Hell with Francis Chan, which was a response to Rob Bell's Love Wins. Dr. Sprinkle has earned undergraduate and graduate degrees from The Master's Seminary as well as a Ph.D. in New Testament from Aberdeen University in the Scotland. He currently serves as the Vice President for Eternity Bible College's Extension Campus in Boise, ID. He previously taught at Cedarville University (Ohio) and at Nottingham University (U.K.). Check out Dr. Sprinkle's Personal Website Follow Dr. Sprinkle on Twitter: @prestonsprinkle Check out Dr. Sprinkle's podcast: Theology in the Raw Resources Recommended by Dr. Sprinkle:  People to be Loved (by Preston Sprinkle, Ph.D.) Washed and Waiting (by Wesley Hill) Is God Anti-Gay (by Sam Allberry) Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate (by Justin Lee) Additional Recommended Resources: What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? (by Kevin DeYoung) Tim Keller's Response to Matthew Vines & Ken Wilson Resources from Rosaria Butterfield Christopher Yuan's Response to Justin Lee's "Torn" Christopher Yuan's Response to Matthew Vines Is Gay the New Black? (Video) How Can Homosexuality Be Wrong If It Doesn't Harm Anyone? (Video) Previous Related Episodes:  78: Why is Homosexuality a Sin? 70: How Does God Determine What Is Sin And What Is Not Sin? 65: Is It Wrong To Live Together Before We’re Married? 58: Why Is God Consumed With His Own Glory? 55: Why Does Sexual Purity Matter? With Dr. Corey Allan 11: Why Is Premarital Sex Sin?

In this episode, Kenny clearly explains why God labels homosexuality as a sin. Kenny starts the episode apologizing to any person who identifies as gay who has been mistreated by Christians. Kenny then challenges Christians to be consistent in their evaluation of sins. Kenny then makes the point that the Bible does indeed label homosexual behaviors as sinful (citing 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Genesis 19, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Timothy 1:10, Romans 1), but then Kenny begins to answer the question "Why?" There are typically multiple levels as to why something is sinful. The deepest layer when it come to understanding sexual sin is rooted in understanding God's ideal design, and that is one man and one woman, within the bounds of covenant marriage. During the act of sex there is something mysterious and supernatural that happens that emotionally unites the man and woman. The book of Genesis says they will become "one flesh" which is translated from the Hebrew word "echad" which speaks to plurality and diversity, but still points to a perfect unity. This is designed to reflect the Trinity. Through the creation of genders, God is reflecting both His unity and His diversity. The members of the Trinity are committed to one another, they are in covenant with one another, therefore God desires covenant before the unity, which is why we believe premarital sex is wrong. God's design for humans is for us to function as He functions, that we would mirror Him and His character. Therefore, when two men have sex, they are not mirroring the diversity of the Trinity, for this reason God labels this as sin. Our understanding of the creation account and our understanding of the Trinity point towards God's ideal for sexuality. Any behavior outside of the ideal design is sinful, including homosexual behavior. Recommended Resources:  What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? (by Kevin DeYoung) Tim Keller's Response to Matthew Vines & Ken Wilson Resources from Rosaria Butterfield Christopher Yuan's Response to Justin Lee's "Torn" Christopher Yuan's Response to Matthew Vines Is Gay the New Black? (Video) How Can Homosexuality Be Wrong If It Doesn't Harm Anyone? (Video) Previous Related Episodes:  11: Why Is Premarital Sex Sin? 55: Why Does Sexual Purity Matter? With Dr. Corey Allan 58: Why Is God Consumed With His Own Glory? 65: Is It Wrong To Live Together Before We’re Married? 70: How Does God Determine What Is Sin And What Is Not Sin?       

In this lecture, Christopher Yuan explains the Biblical position on homosexuality and refutes point-by-point the claims of Matthew Vines and others who argue that the Bible allows or affirms gay relationships. Christopher Yuan is a Summit faculty member and an international speaker, sharing his incredible testimony and lecturing on homosexuality, biblical hermeneutics, and how Christians ought to respond to the LGBT community. He's the author of Out of a Far Country: A Gay Son's Journey to God, A Broken Mother's Search for Hope with his mother, Angela Yuan. For more information, visit his website at http://www.christopheryuan.com/. Visit summit.org/podcast to sign up for Summit's email list and receive unflinching worldview analysis of current news and events.

Steve Wells is the author of the amazing Skeptics Annotated Bible, which documents all the contradictions and horrible things the Bible says. It’s one of the most useful websites for atheists I have ever seen and you can check it out at skepticsannotatedbible.com. The print version of the book is a must-have. Wells is also the author of Drunk with Blood, which documents all of God’s killings in the Bible. His newest book is called Strange Flesh, and it’s about how the Bible is used to justify anti-gay bigotry or, depending on who you talk to, support LGBT rights. We spoke with Steve about his time in seminary, how one documents the number of deaths during an imaginary flood, and how Christian LGBT-rights advocate Matthew Vines gets it wrong.

Tonight is Chapter 7 of "God and the Gay Christian" by Matthew Vines.  Also, a "pastor" won't perform gay marriages, under penalty of law.http://www.parkerfarms.biz/PCP/PCP-Ep5.mp3

Obamacare is threatening James Dobson's Family Talk ministry. Matt Bowman of Alliance Defending Freedom identifies the facts of the case with Don Kroah (2:00).•Albert Mohler responds to the newly released book, “God and the Gay Christian” by Matthew Vines (5:00).•Michael Brown, from the ministry program “Line of Fire”, explains the intolerance of the left on the Don Kroah Show (13:00). •New studies reveal that marijuana damages the brain. Dr. Eric Voth discusses the harmful effects of the drug with Bill Bunkley (21:45).•Nick Vujicic was born without arms or legs, but his preoccuption is not his own body, but rather the body of Christ (27:40)•Don Kroah interviews John Stonestreet from Breakpoint commentaries about culture and Christianity (35:40).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

• God Our Mother? • Apophatic Meditation? • Team Emergent's Support of Matthew Vines • Sermon Review: Spies by Nathan of Shoreline Church, Destin, FL

• California Baptist Church Changes View on Homosexuality After Pastor's Son Comes Out Gay • Al Mohler Responds to the First Gay Affirming SBC Church. • Debunking Matthew Vines' Bible Twisting • Sermon Review: Drift: Emotional Health by Youth Pastor Caleb of Narrate Church

In the last installment in this series we look at several passages used by Matthew Vines to say that homosexuality is compatible with Biblical Christianity because... the "old law" has been abolished. Colossians 2:14, Matthew 5:17, and Romans 10:4 (among others) are discussed.

This lesson continues to evaluate Matthew Vines (an openly "gay" professing Christian) lecture given in 2012. In this lesson I deal with the paradigm that exists in the minds of many concerning the Jerusalem council in Acts 15.