The late / great Jim Rohn once suggested “we should be something more than average.” You look at all the great accomplishments in life and no great success came from someone choosing to be average. It comes by those choosing to break average. It’s a choice! But, If we are too careful, we settle for average. If we are too cautious, we fail to live to our potential. Therefore, the challenge is before us – we must break average! The best way to break average is not go it alone, it’s to go with others. That’s why we created the Breaking Average Podcast. Your companion and guide on the journey to breaking average. Something we call team strong leadership. “If you want to go fast, go alone – if you want go far, go together.” Join us each week for the Breaking Average Podcast
Unlock your potential and elevate your leadership impact in this thought-provoking episode. Hosts Paul and Barry explore the transformative power of questions—questions that challenge conventional thinking, inspire self-reflection, and drive personal growth. Discover how intentionality, authenticity, and transparency can shape your leadership journey. From uncovering influential moments from your past to debating bold ideas like time travel, this episode will challenge you to think differently and break free from the status quo. Packed with fresh perspectives and practical strategies, this conversation is a must-listen for visionary leaders ready to leave average behind and embrace excellence.
Welcome to part 4 of Season 8 of the Breaking Average Podcast focused on Unleashing Curiosity and Superpowers Through Questions. In this fun episode, Hosts Paul Gustavson and Barry Smith hypothetically plan for a zombie apocalypse, selecting team members for business resilience. They also reflect on their worst jobs as well as their future aspirations. Discover new insights through the power of questions, and the importance of taking action over intention and share advice on growth and decision-making.
n this episode, Paul and Barry dive deep into the transformative power of questions. Exploring the importance of a growth mindset, they share how curiosity and continuous learning can unlock new possibilities. Through thought-provoking "would you rather" scenarios and reflections on the pivotal year of 2020, they uncover the value of relationships, legacy, and resilience. Whether you're seeking to enhance your personal or professional life, this episode of the Breaking Average podcast will equip you with practical strategies to help break free from the default of average. Discover insights as you step out of your comfort zone, embrace curiosity, and take bold action toward excellence.
Welcome to Season 8 - episode 2 of the Breaking Average Podcast. Hosts Paul Gustavson and Barry Smith dive deeper into the power of questions. They share the significance of asking meaningful questions. Barry emphasizes the value of open-ended questions in coaching, while Paul highlights how questions can engage people and provide valuable perspectives. Discover insights on stress relief, the power of exploration, and ways to bridge the gaps. This podcast is your invitation to step out of your comfort zone, embrace curiosity, and take bold action toward excellence.
Paul and Barry, hosts of The Breaking Average Podcast, discuss the importance of asking powerful questions and share insights from a resource called Building Blocks. They explore various topics, including personal growth, stress relief, and the value of exploration. Don't miss this great episode where Barry and Paul were able to record it together in Colorado! Action Items [ ] Explore using powerful questions with your family, team, and mentors.[ ] Take action on something you haven't done before or stretch outside your comfort zone.
Three Tips to Make the Most of Your Summer We are working on brand new episodes for Season 8 to air later this fall. In the meantime, check out our short series for the summer. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com
In this episode, Paul and Barry take a break from sharing about great sports that have defined us and instead explore how our words create meaning and shape our worlds. Specifically, we sit down with Mark Batterson, who is a best-selling author, speaker, and pastor. His latest book, "Please. Sorry. Thanks." offers more than just practical advice, it will shape your thinking,. Discover how you can change your world with words. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Also, be sure to grab a copy of Mark's new book "Please. Sorry. Thanks." at book retailers everywhere.
Paul and Barry dive into the greatest sports moments that created an impact in our lives. We call it origin moments not just for the player, team or coach, but for all of us. Sometimes in the midst of tragedy something beautiful emerges. Today's episode is about the day the world of sports suddenly stopped as we witnessed the unthinkable, but through the platform of sports came together as one. This one became a miracle. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Also, be sure to grab a copy of Paul's new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
Paul and Barry dive into the greatest sports moments that created an impact in our lives. We call it origin moments not just for the player, team or coach, but for all of us. Sometimes in the midst of tragedy something beautiful emerges. Today's episode is about the day the world of sports suddenly stopped as we witnessed the unthinkable, but through the platform of sports came together as one. This one became a miracle. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Also, be sure to grab a copy of Paul's new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
Paul and Barry dive into the greatest sports moments that created an impact including the origin moments of the legends of our time. Today's episode is about the legendary Tom Brady, who many consider the G.O.A.T QB in football history. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Also, be sure to grab a copy of Paul's new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
Paul and Barry dive into the greatest sports moments that created an impact including the origin moments that we should never forget. Today's episode is about the legendary U.S. Men's Hockey team and how they were lead to improbable gold in the 1980 Winter Olympics Sometimes Miracles really do happen! Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Also, be sure to grab a copy of Paul's new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
aul and Barry dive into the greatest sports moments that created an impact including the origin moments of the legends of our time. Today's episode is about the legendary Jackie Robinson. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Also, be sure to grab a copy of Paul's new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
Barry and Paul dive into the greatest sports moments that created an impact. The first one out of the gates is the 1982 NCAA Championships Game - North Carolina vs. Georgetown. Two great coaches. 4 Future College Hall of Famers including Michael Jordan.
Join the Breaking Average Podcast as Barry and Paul launch a BRAND NEW season. They reveal for you the TOP TEN SPORTS MOMENTS that have created an impact -- at least in their eyes. You don't want to miss this episode. Paul and Barry also invite you to share YOUR GREAT SPORTS MOMENTS that you'd love for us to discuss. Drop your ideas in the comments or visit us at http://breakingaverag.com. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Grab a copy of the new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
Join the Breaking Average Podcast as we explore the ALL IN mentality of what it takes to be our best. Paul sits down with U.S. Navy SEAL LCDR Trey Fischer, who shares his story. You don't want to miss this episode. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com If you want to discover more about SimVentions - visit us at https://simventions.com. (We're always looking for great people who love culture). Also grab a copy of Paul's new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
What does it take to seed a dream - and see it come to life? That's the question we put in front of entrepreneur Steve Finn, the founder, and director of Chestnut Mountain Ranch in Morgantown, WV. As a young child, Steve Finn lost his dad and became fatherless. After struggling as a teen, he found a new lease on life and decided to be a police officer with the purpose of helping others who struggled as he did. Eventually, his heart led him and his wife to start a boys home in the mountains of West Virginia -- a place of refuge and restoration rescuing them from mediocrity -- or worse. Today, Steve and his wife are creating change across the state. It's a reminder that a dream pursued can create a bigger impact than you can imagine. You don't want to miss this interview. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Grab a copy of the new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
A few years back - we had a chance to talk to Simon Sinek. The tape of the recording went missing for a bit - but we rediscovered it. You don't want to miss this great interview. Simon drops pearls of wisdom you don't want to miss. this. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Grab a copy of the new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
Coach John Mosley joins the Breaking Average Podcast to share his insight on leadership and the importance of Relationships. Coach Mosley is featured on Netflix's top-rated show, Last Chance University. Check it out. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Grab a copy of the new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
In this episode, Paul and Barry explore the significance of Speaking Life into others and the Impact we can make with a "coach's mindset." Discover what the coaching mindset is and how Speaking Life leads you to Breaking Average!
On this episode of the Breaking Average Podcast, Barry and Paul dive into the one thing that will magnify 2023 more than anything else -- The Power of Growth. Discover how you can make this the best year ever.
Happy New Day. What if you thought of each day as a new beginning and an opportunity to engage with others? Join Paul and Barry on this end-of-year episode on the eve of 2023 as they talk about the Power of Engagement. Turn the new year into new opportunities for engagement. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Also grab a copy of the new book IMAGINE at http://theimaginebook.com
Join Barry and Paul as they talk about the Power of Movement. Movement creates experience, and experience yields insight. Movement is about acting, changing states, and advancing. It keeps you from falling into the status quo trap. Find out more in this episode.
This episode of the Breaking Average podcast dives in the Power of Today. Benjamin Franklin once said that "Never leave that till tomorrow which you can do today.” The Power of Today is wha it takes to increase the amplitude. Discover more in this episode. And learn more at http://www.breakingaverage.com
In this episode, Paul and Barry creatively explore 21 Entrepreneur Laws to Live by as a means to make each day count. You don't want to miss this episode. Credit to @Codie_Sanchez for the food for thought that she posted on Twitter that Paul and Barry chewed on for this podcast discussion. Check out Codie by following her on Twitter at https://twitter.com/Codie_Sanchez Also check out the resources and ideas at https://breakingaverage.com
What is Resistance Teaching You? In this episode, Paul and Barry talk about the power of a mastermind, and also how to overcome Murphy's Law and turn Resistance into a stepping stone to develop and strengthen you. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Follow Paul Gustavson at https://twitter.com/paulgustavson Follow Barry Smith at https://twitter.com/BLDWhatMatters
How are your fears holding you back? In this episode Paul and Barry sit down with the "Courage Guy", Dave Cornell as they talk about the art of Resilience. If you need a boost of hope and encouragement, you don't want to miss this episode. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Follow Dave Cornell at https://twitter.com/cultivatecourag Follow Paul Gustavson at https://twitter.com/paulgustavson Follow Barry Smith at https://twitter.com/BLDWhatMatters
What happens when you get off track? In this episode, Paul and Barry explore what it means to find greater Alignment with The Power of Values. Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com Follow Paul Gustavson at https://twitter.com/paulgustavson Follow Barry Smith at https://twitter.com/BLDWhatMatters
Paul and Barry explore a topic of interest to all of us. The Power of Boundaries, which is the key to minimize the distractions. You don't want to miss this episode. Explore more content at https://www.breakingaverage.com
This is It - The Waiting is Over! Join us for Part 2 with Jason Turbow, the coauthor of the Kenny Loggins autobiography "Still Alright" In this episode, you'll hear a powerful story that Jason captured from Kenny Loggins that they used to open up the book. Plus a whole lot more great insights on life and leadership including Barry and Paul's discussion on The Power of Belief. You don't want to miss this episode! Discover more at https://www.breakingaverage.com/
Join us as we sit down with Best-selling author Jason Turbow as he shares leadership insights from the game of Baseball and his recent collaboration with Music Icon Kenny Loggins in the brand new best-selling book Still Alright. You don't want to miss this two-part series on the Breaking Average podcast. And stay tuned as Barry and Paul talk about the Power of Assessment. Discover more at https://breakingaverage.com
This week on the Breaking Average Podcast, Paul Gustavson and Barry Smith dive into a topic that you don't want to miss. It's the Power of Curiosity. Curiosity is one thing that changes the game. Discover more by watching this episode. Be sure to tell others about it. http://www.breakingaverage.com
Paul Gustavson and Barry Smith discuss the Power of Patterns exploring how habits are curated and crafted, and what they can do to influence yourself and others. Success leaves clues -- discover the power of patterns. Discover more episodes at http://www.breakingaverage.com.
In this episode, Paul Gustavson and Barry Smith talk about the importance of equipping yourself. Each of us has an orotundity to advance ourselves, and an important step is to gear up. Our brain is wired for equipping. Discover more in this episode.
Paul and Barry explore what it means to Become Something More. Learn the secrets of Michael Jordan and others! Note: This is the first episode with cohost Barry Smith.
Have you heard the phrase "It is What Is?" In this episode. Paul challenges us in a fresh way to re-think that thought., and shares about Learn States and Opportunities and how to seize them.
Rick and Paul continue the How To series with how to celebrate growth! This whole season has discussed several items that can impact your growth. How do we celebrate it? Are goals good? What do we do after we achieve growth? Find out by listening to the Season 4 Finale! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Rick and Paul continue the How To series with how to stand out from the crowd. What are some marketing areas that can help you stand above the rest? What should you avoid? What does it mean to stand out? Find those answers and more in this episode. Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Rick and Paul continue the How To series with How to Podcast. Should you podcast? What does it take to get started? What equipment should you use? What is the process? Paul and Rick share their experience of podcasting from the last several years. If anyone is pondering a podcast, this is a great episode for you! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Special Guest Dan Pink joins Paul and Rick to discuss how to deal with regrets. Based on his latest book The Power of Regret, Dan shares the research and what led him to write the book. Is regret bad? Who has regrets? What are the types of regrets? What can we do with our regrets? Can regret be a good thing? Find the answers to these questions and more in this episode! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Paul and Rick continue the How To series as we discuss how to be a blessing. The word blessing does not seem to be used as much as it used to according to Google (other than overused as hashtags). What is a blessing? How can you become one? Who determines what is and is not a blessing? Find out here! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Rick and Paul continue the How To series as we discuss how to be remarkable. What does it mean to be remarkable? How do you leverage that for your brand or business? How can you differentiate yourselves from others? Check out this episode and Paul and Rick continue to delve in to how to break average! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Paul and Rick continue the How To series as we discuss how to have difficult conversations. How do you prepare for one of these conversations? What should you do and even better, what should you not do? Find out in this episode plus tips and challenges to assist with difficult conversations. Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Rick and Paul continue the How To series as we discuss how to overcome distractions. Distractions, especially in today's world of devices and notifications, can be a difficult thing to deal with. Rick and Paul talk through their personal experiences on how to handle distractions and give tips and challenges to assist you in overcoming yours! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Rick and Paul continue the How To series as we discuss how to be resilient. Resilience is measured by how much resistance you are willing to overcome to achieve your dreams. Check out tips, advice, and stories on how to grow your resilience muscle. Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Paul and Rick continue their How To series discussing how to push past your limits and be creative! How do you achieve that 1% better every day? What happens when you don't feel creative? How can you reboot your mind to clear through certain blocks? Find out by listening to this episode! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
It is time for some Spring Cleaning…..of your finances and subscriptions! Rick and Paul discuss tips and tricks to tighten the buckle a bit and find some extra savings. How do you get a handle on subscriptions? When is it time to let go of some things you have been holding on to? Find out in this episode! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Continuing the How To series, Paul and Rick discuss how to influence without power. How can you rise up in your organization, influence, or be noticed when you do not have direct authority? Find out in this episode! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Continuing the How To series, Rick and Paul discuss how they got into speaking, what you can do to start, and they help answer one of the biggest questions out there: negotiating your rate. Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Paul and Rick discuss the ins and outs of writing a book! How do you start? Do you get an agent? What is the difference between fiction and nonfiction proposals? Should you get a traditional publisher or self-publish? Hear these answers and more on this episode! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Welcome to Season 4 of Breaking Average! Rick and Paul discuss how to rise when life knocks you down. We all have had hardships and fall in life. The question is how do we get back up? Paul and Rick share from personal experience how to rise from when you have fallen. Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
Rick and Paul continue the How To series with how to celebrate growth! This whole season has discussed several items that can impact your growth. How do we celebrate it? Are goals good? What do we do after we achieve growth? Find out by listening to the Season 4 Finale! Watch us on the weekly Empowered Living show at noon on Thursday or on YouTube. We're always looking for the story of Breaking Average from the communities that we serve that the world that our listeners are involved in. If you know of a leader out there who is Breaking Average, in the way that they lead, the way that they serve their communities, their organizations, the leaders around them, we'd love for you to go to https://www.breakingaverage.com/podcast let us know of a leader that you think we should talk to as well. Purchase the Breaking Average book by clicking here: http://bit.ly/breakaverage Connect with your Breaking Average Crew: Paul Gustavson & Rick A. Morris Produced by Rick A. Morris with R2 Multimedia, LLC
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