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Your two favorite ex-mormon apostates take you on a comedic exploration and analysis of new and old religious fundamentalism. Every week they examine hot-button issues like shame, sexuality, purity culture, and misogyny from a post-religious lens. Come an

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    • Mar 18, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    The Embracing Apostasy with Jordan & McKay podcast is an absolute gem for anyone interested in learning about the experiences of ex-Mormons and navigating life after leaving a religious community. While I may not be ex-Mormon myself, as an ex-evangelical, I find their insights and perspectives to be incredibly relatable. Jordan and McKay have a unique ability to connect with their audience on a personal level, making it feel like you're listening to friends rather than just hosts of a podcast.

    One of the best aspects of this podcast is how honest and transparent Jordan and McKay are about their own journey. They share their learning process, personal growth, and what they are working towards without holding back. Their transition from the Mormon church to embracing wokeness is something that many can relate to, regardless of their specific religious background. It's refreshing to hear them discuss important topics with such passion and effort while also keeping the content fun and entertaining.

    Another aspect that makes The Embracing Apostasy so great is their fearlessness in standing up against bullies and authoritarians while advocating for marginalized groups of people. They are well informed, well educated, trustworthy individuals who don't shy away from valid criticisms of the Mormon church. It's evident that their words strike a nerve because they sometimes receive ad hominem attacks from current Mormons. However, they remain steadfast in their mission to shed light on important issues.

    The only downside I can think of when it comes to this podcast is that there isn't enough content! I never miss an episode but find myself eagerly awaiting each new release. Their balance between humor and information is superb, making it enjoyable to listen to even when discussing heavy topics. They deserve all the praise for creating content that is both enlightening and entertaining.

    In conclusion, The Embracing Apostasy with Jordan & McKay podcast is a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding life after leaving a religious community, especially the Mormon church. Even if you're not ex-Mormon, their vulnerability and bravery in discussing their pasts is commendable and appreciated. Their insider information and discussions on Mormonism contribute to a broader understanding of our history and culture. I highly recommend checking out their YouTube channel as well for even more content. Thank you, Jordan and McKay, for providing such an informative and engaging podcast!



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    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2023 51:13


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    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2022 64:15


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    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2022 56:04


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    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2022 54:00


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    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2022 73:12


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