Seeking What They Sought

In this last episode of the season, Jesse reads a letter we got from an individual who reflects on their theological journey with the LGBTQ issue. We found their thoughts to be poignant and profound. We hope it will serve as a meaningful way to finish off this series.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, we conclude our LGBTQ series by sitting down with longtime friend Jordan Leddy to reflect on what we learned from our guests throughout this series. Jordan shares his experience of being a gay Adventist and what he thought of this series from a listener perspective. We wrap up by ultimately asking the question: “Where does our church go from here?”Find our Merch Here.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, we sit down with Professor Roy E. Gane, professor of Hebrew Bible and Ancient Near Eastern Languages at Andrew's University. We take a deep dive into the issue of homosexuality in the Bible to see if there is any room for an affirming interpretation of scripture.Find our Merch Here.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, we sit down with Jay Wintermeyer, former Communications Director for the NPUC and Editor of The Gleaner. Jay shares his story of being let go from his multiple church positions due to an anonymous letter that outed him as gay. We also reflect with him on how we can better move forward together as a church on LGBTQ issues and reaching out to that community.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, we chat with Alicia Johnston, author of the book “The Bible and LGBTQ Adventists”. We discuss her journey as an SDA pastor, losing her position in the church for coming out, and the biblical reasons she has for taking an affirming view.Find our Merch Here.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, we sit down with the host of Spectrum's Imago Gei podcast, Kendra Arsenault, to listen to her experiences as an openly bisexual Adventist, and the triumphs and challenges that led her to where she is today.Find our Merch Here.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, we sit down with Coming Out Ministries co-founder Michael Carducci to hear his story about living in the LGBTQ community, choosing to step away from that community, and about what he now believes the Bible says about homosexuality.Find our Merch Here.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, the guys introduce a long-awaited series we've been working on that dives into the topic of LGBTQ+ and the Bible. This series will be based around several interviews with differing viewpoints surrounding the issue from all sides. So join us on this search for wisdom and better understanding.Find our Merch Here.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

Watch the video version of this episode HERE.In this episode, the guys get together with Josh Jamieson to reflect on their experience creating and leading Circle Church, a student-led church on the campus of Walla Walla University. They reflect on what made Circle Church so impactful, the mistakes that were made, and all the people that came together to make it work.Find our Merch Here.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

Sean and Anthony get together with longtime friend and fellow "PK" Jordan Leddy to reflect on how the Adventist church reacted to video games, movies, and more during the 90s and early 2000s. Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, we hang out with Adventist History Podcast creator Matthew Lucio to talk about some crazy stories from our church's past, why we should care about our history, and what our church's future might hold.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

Is swearing inherently wrong? If so, why? In this episode, the guys discuss this topic and its implications in our faith. Join us!

Welcome back! Catch up with the guys and find out what's in store for season four of Seeking What They Sought. We have lots of awesome guests, interviews, and content coming your way so buckle up and enjoy! Merch: https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/26713778-eg-dubs-light?store_id=1093443

In this episode, we take the time to discuss and react to our conversation with Doug Batchelor and share our individual takeaways. Watch Jesse's “Seasoned Sailure” video HERE.Keep up with Pastor Doug at his website, Dougbatchelor.com, Instagram @pastorbatchelor, or his YouTube channel! Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In our final interview of season 3, we get a chance to sit down and chat with none other than the president of Amazing Facts, Doug Batchelor! We talk Doug's ministry journey, women's ordination, and a whole bunch of other stuff! Keep up with Pastor Doug at his website, Dougbatchelor.com, Instagram @pastorbatchelor, or his YouTube channel! Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, Jesse and Anthony address what they're calling “intellectual arrogance;” the tendency for us to assume we are right and others are wrong. Join us as we try and practice healthier conversations! Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this episode, Sean and Anthony pause to reflect on the dark times of life. They share some of their experiences with darkness, mental health, and doubt, as well as what they have learned from those times. Struggling with mental health or darkness yourself? Tell someone. Don't suffer in silence, you are not alone! Send us a message, we would love to hear your story. If you are considering ending your life please know you matter. This is the National Suicide Hotline, give them a call if it is an emergency: 1-800-273-8255 Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

Jesse and Anthony continue the conversation following their interview with Michael Nixon, the VP For Diversity & Enrollment at Andrew’s University. Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

In this one, Jesse & Anthony have the opportunity to interview Michael Nixon, the VP For Diversity & Enrollment at Andrew’s University. Michael walks us through the history of racial conflict in the SDA church, the formation of Regional Conferences, and more. Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com

Part two of our “Church Structure” series is a chat with North Pacific Union President, John Freedman. We talk about his journey, the difficulties of leadership, and the controversy surrounding women’s ordination. Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comWant to support the podcast? CashApp, PatreonThanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

Part one of our “Church Structure” series! In this one the guys sit down for a chat with Washington Conference President Doug Bing. We get to hear his story and come away with some interesting insights about the local conference. Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comWant to support the podcast? CashApp, PatreonThanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, the guys get a chance to sit down for a conversation with Kaleb Eisele, the man behind Humans of Adventism. Kaleb shares with us some of the lessons he's learned over the years, and we discuss how important it is to value the stories of others. Join us! This episode was sponsored by The Love Potluck! If you are interested in learning more about The Love Potluck, visit their site here: https://www.thelovepotluck.com We were featured on a blog! If you want to check it out head over to: https://blog.feedspot.com/adventist_podcasts/ Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

Bad explanations is back! In this episode, the guys unravel some of the bad explanations given to them growing up about drinking alcohol, and share some of the ways they’ve come to see the issue in recent years. This episode was sponsored by The Love Potluck! If you are interested in learning more about The Love Potluck, visit their site here: https://www.thelovepotluck.comWe were featured on a blog! If you want to check it out head over to: https://blog.feedspot.com/adventist_podcasts/Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comThanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode the guys talk about what it means to be “unequally yoked.” Should Adventists date or marry outside their faith? This episode was sponsored by The Love Potluck! If you are interested in learning more about The Love Potluck, visit their site here: https://www.thelovepotluck.comHave a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comThanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, the guys sit down for a conversation with Worship Pastor Josh Jamieson to discuss music and worship. Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this one the guys sit down for a conversation with Author/Theologian Steve Case to discuss Revelation—why it’s so important to Adventists, and how it’s often misunderstood.Steve’s website: www.involveyouth.orgHave a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comThanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, the guys discuss some of the recent political turmoil facing the United States (and the world). How should we as Adventists interact with politics? Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this one the guys sit down for a conversation with former Adventist Pastor, Matthew Gamble, to chat about his journey away from the SDA church.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comThanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

Welcome to another episode of Bad Explanations! This time around the guys discuss Sabbath, some of the bad explanations given to them for why it was important growing up, and how they have come to see it in a more healthy way over the years. Some resources the guys talk about in this episode (and more!):Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer:https://www.amazon.com/dp/0525653090/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_A3dSEb8Z4Q568“Fight Hustle/End Hurry Podcast” https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fight-hustle-end-hurry/id1480300467Essential more “Scholarly” Sabbath Reading we’ve found life-giving:“Sabbath” By Rabbi Heschelhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0374529752/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_t4dSEb7FKZW2Y“Sabbath as Resistance” by W. BrueggemannSabbath as Resistance, New Edition with Study Guide https://www.amazon.com/dp/0664263291/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_85dSEbFVSVYT1Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode the guys talk about Easter and how Adventists possibly celebrate it less than other Christian denominations and the reasons behind that.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comThanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode the guys talk about the recent COVID-19 virus and discuss whether or not attending a church service will be as necessary as we once thought going forward.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comThanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode the guys talk about the unique Adventist struggle with intellectualism when it comes to personal faith. Is knowing God more about the head, or the heart? Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, Sean and Anthony reflect on what it was like to grow up a PK (pastor’s kid). They also take a look at a study.Link to source: https://www.barna.com/research/prodigal-pastor-kids-fact-or-fiction/

The guys are back with an update and introduction to the second season of Seeking What They Sought! Catch up and get a preview of what’s to come this season.

In this episode, the guys sit down with Paddy McCoy and discuss the future of the church and how young adults will have an impact. Paddy is the young adult pastor at Kettering SDA Church and former chaplain of Walla Walla University.Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, the guys sit down with The One Project leader Paddy McCoy for an interview. Paddy is currently the young adult pastor at Kettering SDA Church in Kettering, Ohio. Find our more about the One Project Here: https://the1project.org/gatherings/redlands2019Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, the guys continue with the series, “Bad Explanations,” with their second topic, Ellen White. “I Am Not a Prophet;” Ellen White’s thoughts on her role as a messenger of God (Letter 320, 1905, to J. H. Kellogg; Manuscript Releases 5:439) Source: https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/656.1731#1733Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

TL;DR: If you want to just skip to the “Opinion Zone,” at the end of the episode to hear the guys give their personal stance on sex before marriage skip to 1:04:29Want to fact check us? Go a little more in-depth? Here are some sources!: Premarital Sex Trends: Increasing Worldwide (2018):http://www.ipsnews.net/2018/04/premarital-sex-increasing-worldwide/The "Fog Zone" Study = "Evangelicals Aren't Waiting To Have Sex" (2009)https://powertodecide.org/sites/default/files/resources/primary-download/fog-zone-full.pdfNT Verses on "Fornication:" Mark 7:20-23, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Cor 6:18-20, 1 Thess. 4:3-5Original Language: Strong’s Concordance: 4202, “porneia,” πορνεία ; from 4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively, idolatry: — fornication.4203: πορνεύω porneuō; from 4204; to act the harlot, i.e. (literally) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (figuratively) practice idolatry: — commit (fornication)Bonus: A lot of the language we use, believe it or not (lol), came from people way smarter than us. There are some great resources out there to talk about Sex in proactive, wholistic ways, here are a few! The Meanjng of Marriage - Tim KellerCounterfeit Gods - Tim KellerSex/God by Rob Bell Love That Lasts - Jeff Bethke Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening! - Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, the guys continue their discussion about the conflict within the church, and react to the "Unity #GCAC18" Video. Want to fact check us? Go a little more in-depth? Here are some sources!: Unity #GCAC18 Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qni-B8emmjs"Official" Statement by SDA Church on the Background of the Document Passed in October:https://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2018-10-17/harmony-with-the-world-church/Please note, the document referenced in the link above (titled, "Regard for and Practice of General Conference Session and General Conference Executive Committee Actions") is the one we mention when we talk about the document the GC passed which enabled them to create 5 different "Oversight Committees."A little more information about the purported role of the Compliance Committees:https://www.adventistreview.org/compliance-committees-terms-of-referenceHistoric Account of 1888, "What Happened In 1888?" (George Knight):https://tinyurl.com/ycr4oydaEllen White's Response to the events of the 1888 General Conference, "A Call To Deeper Study of the Word": https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/4371.2000001#0 Have a question you want us to discuss? Comment? Maybe you disagree with something we said? Either way, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us an email at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening!- Jesse, Sean, Anthony, Erik

In this episode, the guys discuss the recent annual council meetings and the continued divide within the church.Sources: Ted Wilson Quote on Creation, Referenced:https://tinyurl.com/y8u8e4qyTed Wilson’s Sermon At Annual Council 2018, Referenced: https://tinyurl.com/yazurgz4Ellen White’s Address To The General Conference in Session in 1888:https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/4371.2000001#0Want to send in a question for the guys to discuss? Shoot an email our way at:seekingwhattheysought@gmail.com Thanks for listening!

Welcome to Seeking What They Sought!In this episode, the guys introduce themselves and discuss the vision behind the podcast.“Do not seek the footsteps of the wise, seek what they sought.”— MATSUO BASHŌSWTS is made up of Sean Lehnhoff, Jesse Churchill, Anthony Lyder, and Erik Edstrom.Want to send in a question for the guys to discuss? Shoot an email our way at: seekingwhattheysought@gmail.comThanks for listening!