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Rosie wants to find out if her man actually cheated on her because his best friend keeps encouraging it. Follow us on socials! @themorningmess

https://youtu.be/D1RgPAud67Y *Catch the YouTube video version! LIKE, SUB, BELL, HYPE!On today's episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we continue our 4-part MKULTRA deep dive! In Part 2 we'll cover a hard to find book called “Secrets and Lies” by Gordon Thomas that details MKULTRA mostly through the view of CIA agent William Buckley. This book features a section on the black magick efforts in a sub-program called Operation OFTEN. It also covers many of the players in MKULTRA: Dr Jolly West, Dr. William Sargent, Dr Ewan Cameron, Frank Olson, Allen Dulles, techniques such as Psychic Driving and the CIA Assassination Manual.In Part 3 we'll cover the authoritative source on the man running MKULTRA: Dr Sydney Gottlieb. It will cover the nazi origins of MKULTRA, Operation Paperclip, origins of the terms used in the program, George Hunter White and Operation Midnight Climax and all the FREAKS within the CIA.In Part 4 we'll cover Cathy O'Brien's TRANCEformation of America book where we get the theory about sex slaves and Project MONARCH. We'll also briefly look at Tom O'Neill's CHAOS book about Charles Manson being a subject in the experiments. Links:Help me get to 100K on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/@occultsymbolism: (*Supporter feeds Tier 2 members get videos with early access, no ads)All My Links: AllMyLinks.com/IsaacW (social media, Audible, online store for signed books, shirts & more)Show sponsors- Get discounts while you support the show and do a little self improvement!*CopyMyCrypto.com/Isaac is where you can copy James McMahon's crypto holdings- listeners get access for just $1 WANT MORE?... Check out my UNCENSORED show with my wife, Breaking Social Norms: https://breakingsocialnorms.com/GRIFTER ALLEY- get bonus content AND go commercial free + other perks:*PATREON.com/IlluminatiWatcher : ad free, HUNDREDS of bonus shows, early access AND TWO OF MY BOOKS! (The Dark Path and Kubrick's Code); you can join the conversations with hundreds of other show supporters here: Patreon.com/IlluminatiWatcher (*Patreon is also NOW enabled to connect with Spotify! https://rb.gy/hcq13)*VIP SECTION: Due to the threat of censorship, I set up a Patreon-type system through MY OWN website! IIt's even setup the same: FREE ebooks, Kubrick's Code video! Sign up at: https://illuminatiwatcher.com/members-section/*APPLE PREMIUM: If you're on the Apple Podcasts app- just click the Premium button and you're in! NO more ads, Early Access, EVERY BONUS EPISODE More from Isaac- links and special offers:*BREAKING SOCIAL NORMS podcast, Index of EVERY episode (back to 2014), Signed paperbacks, shirts, & other merch, Substack, YouTube links, appearances & more: https://allmylinks.com/isaacw *STATEMENT: This show is full of Isaac's useless opinions and presented for entertainment purposes. Audio clips used in Fair Use and taken from YouTube videos.

What happens when a three-generation PI firm stops relying on its name and starts operating with urgency? Jordan Lundy shares how Lundy Law rethought marketing, rebuilt intake, and aligned client experience with how people actually choose firms today. The lesson is simple but uncomfortable: demand only matters if your systems can convert it. You'll learn: Why brand recognition matters less than it used to—and how non-branded search now drives decisions How listening to intake recordings exposed exactly where cases were being lost Why Jordan stopped calling it an intake team and started treating it like a sales team How responding faster to chats and web forms increased conversions without more leads Why firms relying on “what's always worked” are at the biggest risk right now If you like what you hear, hit subscribe. We do this every week. Buy tickets for PIMCON 2026: pimcon.org Get Social! Personal Injury Mastermind (PIM) powered by Rankings.io is on Instagram | YouTube | TikTok

What to do when your father bequeaths you his sexy leather britches. Dear Grawlix, My boomer dad recently gave me a pair of black leather pants that he had custom made for himself many decades ago. They no longer fit him. Sadly, they do fit me. He made a crude joke when he handed them over about how much “tail” I'd get when I wear them. I'm happily married. Gross. I want nothing to do with my dad's “sexy” pants but he appears to genuinely love them and I suspect would be very upset were I to “disappear” them. How do I get rid of these pants? Signed,- Pleat the fifth P.S. I considered sending a picture of me in the pants but chickened out. Sorry. The internet's forever. LINKS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠See the Grawlix live at the Bug Theatre on Saturday, January 31st with Dave Hill and Mikel Nordstrom!⁠ Follow us for show dates and more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Adam Cayton-Holland⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Roy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Andrew Orvedahl⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Grawlix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Got a question? Email us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠question@advicefight.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

#LFC #LiverpoolFC #LiverpoolFootballClub In this Blood Red clip, Richard Garnett is joined by Mark Jones and Theo Squires to dissect Florian Wirtz's striking turnaround at Liverpool. Signed for £116million in the summer and initially struggling to settle at Anfield, the German international has recently hit top form—some even say he's Liverpool's best player right now. Do you agree, and is there even more to come from Wirtz? Join the debate in the comments and don't forget to like and subscribe. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee You can order your copy of the January issue of Blood Red HERE. It is also available to buy in participating retailers in the Liverpool area. Get exclusive Liverpool FC podcasts and video content everyday right here. Subscribe to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3OkL9iT Listen and subscribe to the Blood Red Podcast for all your latest Liverpool FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HfBvKq SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3SdsjeH Join our Blood Red podcast group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1656599847979758/ Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/liverpool-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoLFC Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloodred_lfc Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bloodred_lfc Subscribe to us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bloodredliverpoolfc Download our Liverpool FC app for free: Apple - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfc-echo/id1255495425 Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mirror.liverpoolfc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pack your most fashionable outfits, dry clean your cloaks.. #TheTraitorsUS is back for Season 4! Isaiah and special guest Janelle are filling in for Katie and Javier this week to discuss the first drop of episodes of #TheTraitorsUS Season 4! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Katie and Isaiah are back for a special Monday night episode of Signed, The Traitors! They're breaking down everything that happened in this latest batch of episodes and there is a LOT to break down. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt LaFleur and Brian Gutekunst are back for another year and in today's episode Alex and KJ give their reactions. Is Green Bay building towards a Super Bowl next season? What are the teams showing out there that the Packers can learn from? Talking players to bring back, let go, and more - Welcome back to the IKE Packers Podcast!Help the show by telling another Packers fan! Other ways to contribute are by leaving a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts and subscribing wherever you get your podcasts.@IKE_Packers on X

The guys react to the latest coaching chaos and pivot back to the Giants, where the John Harbaugh hire briefly felt shakier than expected late Friday. With Ian O'Connor's reporting in hand, they lay out what the holdup actually was: Harbaugh pushing for real influence across the entire organization, from staff and spending to analytics and infrastructure, plus clarity on who wins a draft-day disagreement with Joe Schoen. They also run through the behind-the-scenes pressure points, including a second quiet meeting with Chris Mara, the Titans still lingering in the background, and John Mara stepping in to finally close it. From there, the conversation turns to what this new power structure means, how it could reshape the Giants' building and locker room culture, and why Giants fans are suddenly talking like a turnaround is coming fast.

What officially secured John Harbaugh as the Giants next head coach? Who will the Jets hire as their next defensive coordinator? Audio Files featuring Josh Allen, Sean McDermott, Sean Payton, Demeco Ryans, Caleb Williams, and Curt Cignetti with Mario Cristobal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rebel News podcasts features free audio-only versions of select RebelNews+ content and other Rebel News long-form videos, livestreams, and interviews. Monday to Friday enjoy the audio version of Ezra Levant's daily TV-style show, The Ezra Levant Show, where Ezra gives you his contrarian and conservative take on free speech, politics, and foreign policy through in-depth commentary and interviews. Wednesday evenings you can listen to the audio version of The Gunn Show with Sheila Gunn Reid the Chief Reporter of Rebel News. Sheila brings a western sensibility to Canadian news. With one foot in the oil patch and one foot in agriculture, Sheila challenges mainstream media narratives and stands up for Albertans. If you want to watch the video versions of these podcasts, make sure to begin your free RebelNewsPlus trial by subscribing at http://www.RebelNewsPlus.com

The Dadley Boyz review TNA Impact's debut on AMC and discuss...AMC Premiere REACTIONS!Mike Santana is TNA World Champion!Ex-WWE stars signed!Who left as TNA Knockouts Tag champs?Dixie Carter BOOED?!ENJOY!Follow us on Twitter:@AdamWilbourn@MichaelHamflett@MSidgwick@WhatCultureWWEFor more awesome content, check out: whatculture.com/wwe Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Part 1 Recap of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion aired and it's the time and place to talk about its jaw-dropping moments! Amy Phillips is joined by Emily Dorezas and they analyze the fashion statements, including Andy's standout blow socks and Emily's Greek tragedy-inspired outfit. Discussions continue about powerful ladies' looks from Mary's 80s-style gloves to Bronwyn's unexpected buttery yellow dress. Highlights include Heather Gay's heartfelt reflections, Whitney's awkward confrontations, and the humorous introduction of Brittani. Explore Lisa and Bronwyn's ongoing feuds, Lisa's business dealings, and the explosive revelations as Angie unveils a critical scroll. HERS puts your health and goals first. forhers.com/dramaONE SKIN Get 15% off OneSkin, go to: https://www.oneskin.co/ Code: DRAMA HONEYLOVE Get 20% OFF Honeylove by going to https://www.honeylove.com/DRAMA Promo Code: DRAMALUMI GUMMIES available nationwide! For 30% off your order go to: https://lumigummies.com/ Code: DRAMAFor more Drama, Darling, and exclusive content, subscribe to: http://Patreon.com/dramadarling Follow Drama, Darling on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dramadarlingshow/   Email Drama, Darling with YOUR comments, questions and drama:  DramaDarlingz@gmail.com Follow Amy Phillips on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dramadarlingshow/   MERCH Drama Darling Shop https://drama-darling-shop.printify.me/

I'm doing live giveaways today, including a signed mystery jersey and 10 one-month Laird Social Club memberships.Here's how it works on today's stream:First, I'll raffle off a mystery signed jersey to existing supporting members of the Laird Social Club. Then, I'll give away 10 free one-month memberships so new people can try the community. These memberships are a gift from a current club member!This is also a great chance to learn what Laird Social Club is all about, how giveaways work going forward, and how you can get more involved with the channel and the community.I'll also announce a new way to support my content on YouTube

Author Ovais Naqvi explains how Deep Purple landed their first record deal with Tetragrammaton — a short-lived label with a surprising founder: Bill Cosby. A strange and little-known chapter in rock history.Listen to Episode 350 - Lord Of Keys: Deep Purple's Jon Lord

The News with Coco consists of a couple getting married on an airplane and Kiefer Sutherland getting arrested after an incident with an Uber driver. Judd Sirott sits down to weigh in on the career of Zdeno Chara and explains how the Bruins can stay consistent for the rest of the season. And the debate continues of whether or not Ranger Suárez was a good signing.

Announcing the February Gays Reading Book Club Pick...⭐️ MISSING SAM by Thrity Umrigar, the bestselling author of HONORAt first glance, MISSING SAM looks like a classic thriller: a woman goes missing after a morning run and her wife is left behind to search for answers. But very quickly, this book becomes something much deeper. The book is about what happens when grief collides with prejudice. About how quickly suspicion attaches itself to certain bodies. About love, marriage, and what it means to feel unsafe not just in the world, but inside your own community.New to the club? Get your first book for just $1!When you join the Gays Reading Book Club with Allstora, here's what you get:A SIGNED copy of the book!30% off everything on Allstora's websiteAccess to our Book Club chatEvery subscription donates a children's book to an LGBTQIA+ youthA book club that exclusively supports LGBTQIA+ authorsAnd more along the wayThrity Umrigar is the bestselling author of nine previous novels, including Honor, which was a Reese's Book Club Pick, as well as four picture books and a memoir. Her books have been published in over twenty countries and in several languages. A former journalist, she has contributed to the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the New York Times, the Cleveland Plain Dealer and other newspapers. She is a recipient of the Nieman Fellowship to Harvard, and winner of the Cleveland Arts Prize, the Seth Rosenberg prize and a Lambda Literary award. She is currently a Distinguished University Professor of English at Case Western Reserve University.Sign up for the Gays Reading Book Club HERESUBSTACK! MERCH! WATCH! CONTACT! hello@gaysreading.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week the boys sit down and talk about: Assistants, Jeremy Engle, Ballers, Halloween, Rome, Palermo, Air Bnb, Pizza, Botanical Garden, Rain, Anice, MOAR PIZZA, all the sites and scenes, and getting accosted by italian policia

On this episode of The Hillsdale College Online Courses Podcast, Jeremiah and Juan introduce the course "Constitution 101". The United States Constitution was designed to secure the natural rights proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence. Signed by Constitutional Convention delegates on September 17, 1787—Constitution Day—it was ratified by the American people and remains the most enduring and successful constitution in history. In this twelve-lecture course, students will examine the political theory of the American Founding and subsequent challenges to that theory throughout American history. Topics covered in this course include: the natural rights theory of the Founding, the meaning of the Declaration and the Constitution, the crisis of the Civil War, the Progressive rejection of the Founding, and the nature and form of modern liberalism. The form of government prescribed by the Constitution is based on the timeless principles of the Declaration of Independence. These two documents establish the formal and final causes of the United States and make possible the freedom that is the birthright of all Americans.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode of The Hillsdale College Online Courses Podcast, Jeremiah and Juan introduce the course "Constitution 101". The United States Constitution was designed to secure the natural rights proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence. Signed by Constitutional Convention delegates on September 17, 1787—Constitution Day—it was ratified by the American people and remains the most enduring and successful constitution in history. In this twelve-lecture course, students will examine the political theory of the American Founding and subsequent challenges to that theory throughout American history. Topics covered in this course include: the natural rights theory of the Founding, the meaning of the Declaration and the Constitution, the crisis of the Civil War, the Progressive rejection of the Founding, and the nature and form of modern liberalism. The form of government prescribed by the Constitution is based on the timeless principles of the Declaration of Independence. These two documents establish the formal and final causes of the United States and make possible the freedom that is the birthright of all Americans.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Red Sox show from out of left field copes with the fact that Alex Bregman has signed with the Chicago Cubs--what went wrong, what's the fallout, and where do we go from here? (5:55) ALSO: -Now what? (47:38) -Liam's day at Fenway Fest and the upcoming bobblehead schedule at Fenway (1:07:32) -David Ortiz tears it up on The Masked Singer (1:32:34) All of that and more on this edition of Pod On Lansdowne! Follow the show on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok: @PodOnLansdowne. Subscribe to us on YouTube as well! Got a question or a comment you want featured on the show? Leave a voicemail by dialing 617-420-2431! Save 10% off in-stock items at FOCO.com by using the promo code "POL10" at checkout: https://foco.vegb.net/55mKZo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kate Ramsden is a retired social worker of over 40 years, during which time she was also an active trade unionist. She is still involved in initiatives to support ethical social work practice. She is joint secretary of Aberdeen Trades Union Council and a delegate to the STUC Women's Committee and is involved in a number of left initiatives including writing for the Morning Star.

https://youtu.be/XWLl-jbqEg8 *Watch it on my NEW YouTube! On today's episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we begin our 4-part MKULTRA deep dive! In today's episode we begin with Part 1 where we'll explain what MKULTRA was, some pop culture examples of movies and celebrities that are affiliated with mind control and a quick look at David McGowan's “Programmed to Kill” book about mind controlled killers. In Part 1 we'll explain what MKULTRA was, some pop culture examples of movies and celebrities that are affiliated with mind control and a quick look at David McGowan's “Programmed to Kill” book about mind controlled killers.In Part 2 we'll cover a hard to find book called “Secrets and Lies” by Gordon Thomas that details MKULTRA mostly through the view of CIA agent William Buckely. This book features a section on the black magick efforts in a sub-program called Operation OFTEN. It also covers many of the players in MKULTRA: Dr Jolly West, Dr. William Sargent, Dr Ewan Cameron, Frank Olson, Allen Dulles, techniques such as Psychic Driving and the CIA Assassination Manual.In Part 3 we'll cover the authoritative source on the man running MKULTRA: Dr Sydney Gottlieb. It will cover the nazi origins of MKULTRA, Operation Paperclip, origins of the terms used in the program, George Hunter White and Operation Midnight Climax and all the FREAKS within the CIA.In Part 4 we'll cover Cathy O'Brien's TRANCEformation of America book where we get the theory about sex slaves and Project MONARCH. We'll also briefly look at Tom O'Neill's CHAOS book about Charles Manson being a subject in the experiments.Links:Help me get to 100K on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/@occultsymbolism: (*Supporter feeds Tier 2 members get videos with early access, no ads)All My Links: AllMyLinks.com/IsaacW (social media, Audible, online store for signed books, shirts & more)SUPPORTER FEEDS: Go ad-free with HUNDREDS of bonus episodes, early access and books!Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/illuminatiwatcher,VIP Section: https://wp.me/P2ijVF-aRL (*with comparsion of Apple vs Patreon vs VIP)Apple Podcasts Premium! You can now go ad-free with ALL the bonus episodes on the Apple app- just open up the podcast and subscribe!Sacrifice: Magic Behind the Mic & Kubrick's Code signed books: https://occultsymbolism.com/collections/allThe Shining 3.5 hour Deep Dive YouTube: https://youtu.be/Favb2v-1VlU?si=5Ze6U4opKlRRRQGMTHEY LIVE Film Analysis: https://www.illuminatiwatcher.com/they-live-film-analysis-liberal-plots-aliens-homeless-village-people-obey-consumeEyes Wide Shut Episode Index https://www.illuminatiwatcher.com/eyes-wide-shut-decoding-hidden-symbolism-of-stanley-kubrick-episode-indexThe Hunt Film Analysis: https://www.illuminatiwatcher.com/the-hunt-film-analysis-cia-in-hollywood-animal-farm-and-the-liberal-conservative-danceFight Club Film Analysis YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ibqNVeXUAStranger Things Index: https://www.illuminatiwatcher.com/stranger-things-september-special-announcementShow sponsors- Get discounts while you support the show and do a little self improvement!*CopyMyCrypto.com/Isaac is where you can copy James McMahon's crypto holdings- listeners get access for just $1 WANT MORE?... Check out my UNCENSORED show with my wife, Breaking Social Norms: https://breakingsocialnorms.com/GRIFTER ALLEY- get bonus content AND go commercial free + other perks:*PATREON.com/IlluminatiWatcher : ad free, HUNDREDS of bonus shows, early access AND TWO OF MY BOOKS! (The Dark Path and Kubrick's Code); you can join the conversations with hundreds of other show supporters here: Patreon.com/IlluminatiWatcher (*Patreon is also NOW enabled to connect with Spotify! https://rb.gy/hcq13)*VIP SECTION: Due to the threat of censorship, I set up a Patreon-type system through MY OWN website! IIt's even setup the same: FREE ebooks, Kubrick's Code video! Sign up at: https://illuminatiwatcher.com/members-section/*APPLE PREMIUM: If you're on the Apple Podcasts app- just click the Premium button and you're in! NO more ads, Early Access, EVERY BONUS EPISODE More from Isaac- links and special offers:*BREAKING SOCIAL NORMS podcast, Index of EVERY episode (back to 2014), Signed paperbacks, shirts, & other merch, Substack, YouTube links, appearances & more: https://allmylinks.com/isaacw *STATEMENT: This show is full of Isaac's useless opinions and presented for entertainment purposes. Audio clips used in Fair Use and taken from YouTube videos.

Ben Criddle talks BYU sports every weekday from 2 to 6 pm.Today's Co-Hosts: Ben Criddle (@criddlebenjamin)Subscribe to the Cougar Sports with Ben Criddle podcast:Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cougar-sports-with-ben-criddle/id99676

What does modern witchcraft actually look like when you move past aesthetics, trends, and internet rules? In this episode, we sit down with Lorraine Monteagut, PhD, queer Latin witch, astrologer, and author of Modern Witchcraft for Dummies and Brujas: The Magic and Power of Witches of Color. We talk about finding your own entry point into magic with curiosity, context, and care. We explore beginner overwhelm, ethical practice, cultural roots, syncretism, and why learning the history behind modern magical practices matters more than “doing it right.”The conversation also moves into the real-life side of magic, from burnout, major transitions, and rebuilding community, to reconnecting with spiritual practice during seasons of change. If you've ever felt unsure where to start, worried about appropriation, or disconnected from your practice during a life shift, this episode offers grounding perspective and permission to meet yourself exactly where you are.Find out more about Lorraine over on:InstagramWebsite And Lorraine's books below:Brujas: The Magic and Power of Witches of Color Modern Witchcraft for DummiesJoin our Patreon for bonus episodes, magical downloads, and unhinged side quests: https://www.patreon.com/demystifymagicPre-order Molly's book Mundane Magic A Lazy Witch's Guide to Hacking Your Brain, Building a Daily Practice, and Getting Stuff DonePreorder Mundane Magic & Join the Virtual Book Tour⁠: Celebrate the release of Molly's new book with an exclusive online event on Feb 21, 12 PM EST. Get behind-the-scenes insights, live Q&A, and your SIGNED copy shipped on release day.

A Look at the Vikings 2026 Roster: Who's Signed, Who's Free Agents, Who's Retiring --- A Northern Digital Production

You signed the divorce agreement. You thought it was over. But for many people, the real problems begin after the ink dries, when they discover that what they negotiated is not actually enforceable. In this essential episode of Divorce & Beyond, Susan Guthrie is joined by Kelly Lise Murray, a nationally recognized legal scholar whose work focuses on what happens when divorce settlements fall apart in real life, particularly in cases involving homes, mortgages, retirement assets, and complex property divisions. This conversation is especially important during divorce season, when many listeners are early in the process and assuming that reaching agreement automatically means protection. It does not. What You'll Learn Why a signed divorce agreement does not guarantee you will receive what you were promised How enforcement failures leave people owed money or assets they never receive Why homes and retirement accounts are the highest-risk areas in divorce settlements How missing deadlines and contingencies quietly undermine agreements The questions you should ask your lawyer before signing anything About the Guest Prof. Kelly Murray, J.D. is a legal scholar, former law professor, and serial entrepreneur advancing Realty Asset Dispute Resolution nationwide. She earned her undergraduate degree Phi Beta Kappa from Stanford University and her law degree cum laude from Harvard Law School, and served for 18 years as faculty at a Top 20 U.S. law school. Kelly is the Lead Investigator and Faculty Member for the National Family Court Project on Housing and Financial Justice, where her work focuses on preserving homeownership eligibility and financial stability in family disputes, including divorce, trusts, elder law, and probate matters. Her expertise is grounded in real litigated cases involving enforcement failures, not theory. She is also the host of the Wealth Litigated Podcast. Blog Article + Free Resource To help you go deeper, Susan has written a companion blog article for this episode:

Midge Noble is an online resiliency coach, podcaster, author, and speaker. She has published two children's books, SHEBA, Home Is Where Your Heart Is, and ICE CUBE AWARD, Learning To Be Cool Under Pressure. Her memoir, Gay with God, Reclaiming My Faith, Honoring My Story has just been released! Her podcast, GAY with GOD! can be found wherever you stream your podcasts. Midge specializes in helping her LGBTQIA+ community in their coming out and faith journeys. Her main focus is to stop gay suicides by educating people wounded by the church that they can be in relationship with the God of their understanding and that God does and has always loved us, just as we are created to be. To that end, Midge is very involved in her parish, The Episcopal Church of the Good Shepherd. Midge and her wife, along with their fur babies, enjoy spending time at their mountain cabin, hiking, and being with their friends.  On today's episode I talk about how to best support our neighbors, ourselves, and our country. I clear up whether I believe that Jesus expects us to march and why we would and why we may choose not to march.  I give options on how to be a part of the uprising against this regime in a way that is uniquely right for you and honors your relationship with the God of your understanding. Connect with Midge Complimentary Session w/ Midge Be MY next GUEST on GAY with GOD! Email  Linkedin Facebook Website Instagram @midge.noble BlueSky @Midge4.bsky.social TikTok @MidgeNoble418 Threads BUY a SIGNED copy of the Gay with God memoir!  

In Iron Age Jerusalem, finding a tiny bit of a cuneiform tablet is a big deal, since in that town, they use the alphabet. But when the Neo-Assyrian authorities ask, hey, where's our tax money, they can do it in any script and language they want. So you'd better read the email, otherwise -there- will be a meeting, and you won't like it.

Ps Chad explains what discipleship is and why it's essential to experience it with other believers. As always, thank you for your generosity!  If you would like to give to Destiny Church, please click this link and then click the giving tab! https://destinychurch.me/ Or text destinychurchgive to 77977!

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What happens when Trump desecrates a painting of Jesus? Billionaires line up to buy it. At a Mar-a-Lago New Year's Eve party, Trump signs a painting of Christ—offering a very public glimpse at how faith, money, and power now intersect. From there, it's a week of religion doing what it does best: embarrassing itself in public. A failed doomsday prophet in Ghana finds out there are consequences when the apocalypse doesn't show up, Iran's theocratic regime faces mass protests fueled by hunger and economic collapse, and conservatives melt down after New York City's new mayor commits the ultimate sin—taking his oath of office on the "wrong" holy book. Plus, Marjorie Taylor Greene stumbles into a moment of clarity about Trump's faith, Chick-fil-A makes things awkward again, and we ask—once more—what any of this is actually doing to the country.

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We discuss his decision to commit his future to TNA, his goals for 2026, and what this new contract means for the X-Division and the promotion moving forward. #tnawrestling #wrestlingnews #mustafaali #wwe #wrestlingPlus, Mustafa Ali opens up about his WWE career, reflecting on his time as a WWE Superstar, appearing in Royal Rumbles, the Retribution storyline, and his eventual departure from the company. We also discuss his reaction to Gunther retiring John Cena, wrestling in Saudi Arabia for WWE, his favorite people to wrestle, plus so much more!Topics Covered in this Interview: --Mustafa Ali confirms he has re-signed with TNA (Breaking News) --Why he chose to stay with TNA Wrestling over free agency -- Reflections on his WWE run, creative freedom, and cool career highlights -- The future of pro wrestling in 2026 and his personal goalsFOLLOW TNA WRESTLING: Official Website: https://tnawrestling.com/ TNA PLUS: https://watch.tnawrestling.com/ FOLLOW MUSTAFA ALI: Twitter: https://x.com/MustafaAli_X Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mustafa_ali/ CONNECT WITH DENISE SALCEDO ON SOCIAL MEDIA! Tik Tok: https://www.youtube.com/denisesalcedoTwitter: https://twitter.com/_denisesalcedo Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_denisesalcedo/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/denisesalcedovideosPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/denisesalcedo Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/hollywooddenisesalcedo   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

 Voters Right Act, Chicago Tribune, Slate, NY TimesAugust 6th, 1965 the Voting Rights Act was Signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson., C.T. Vivian, a prominent figure in the Civil Rights Movement, was violently attacked by Sheriff Jim Clark while attempting to escort a group of African Americans to register to vote. Steve Fiffer is a New York Times Bestselling Author. His Book is "It's in The Action": Memories of a Nonviolent Warrior, Rev C.T. Vivian's Memoir.Reverend Vivian was a Major Force in the Fight for Civil Rights & Voters Rights in the Twentieth Century till he Passed July 17th, 2020.Regardless of Social Status, Party Affiliation or Belief, Race: Libertarian, Democrat, Progressive or Republican or Other, All Americans Should Have the Right to Vote!Senator Barack Obama, speaking at Selma's Brown Chapel on the March 2007, anniversary of the 1965 Selma to Montgomery marches, recognized Vivian in his opening remarks in the words of Martin L. King Jr. as "the greatest preacher to ever live."Studying for the ministry at American Baptist Theological Seminary (now called American Baptist College) in Nashville, Tennessee, in 1959, Vivian met James Lawson, who was teaching Mohandas Gandhi's nonviolent direct action strategy to the Nashville Student Movement. Soon Lawson's students, including Diane Nash, Bernard Lafayette, James Bevel, John Lewis and others from American Baptist, Fisk University and Tennessee State University, organized a systematic nonviolent sit-in campaign at local lunch counters.Vivian helped found the Nashville Christian Leadership Conference, and helped organize the first sit-ins in Nashville in 1960 and the first civil rights march in 1961. In 1961, Vivian participated in Freedom Rides. He worked alongside Martin Luther King Jr. as the national director of affiliates for the SCLC. During the summer following the Selma Voting Rights Movement, Vivian is perhaps best known for, Vivian challenged Sheriff Jim Clark on the steps of the courthouse in Selma, Alabama, in 1965 during a drive to promote Black people to register to vote."You can turn your back on me, but you cannot turn your back upon the idea of justice," Vivian said to Clark as reporters recorded the interaction. "You can turn your back now and you can keep the club in your hand, but you cannot beat down justice. And we will register to vote, because as citizens of these United States we have the right to do it."Vivian conceived and directed an educational program, Vision, and put 702 Alabama students in college with scholarships (this program later became Upward Bound). His 1970 Black Power and the American Myth was the first book on the Civil Rights Movement by a member of Martin Luther King's staff.On August 8, 2013, President Barack Obama named Vivian as a recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.Steve's own Memoir is "Three Quarters, Two Dimes, and a Nickel". His work has appeared in Chicago Tribune. & Slate. He's also a Guggenheim Fellow© 2026 All Rights Reserved© 2026 Building Abundant Success!!Join Me on ~ iHeart Media @ https://tinyurl.com/iHeartBASSpot Me on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/yxuy23baAmazon Music ~ https://tinyurl.com/AmzBASAudacy:  https://tinyurl.com/BASAud

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Signed into law by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, otherwise known as the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act, ushered in an unprecedented era of roadbuilding in the United States, becoming the largest public works project in the country's history. Designed to spread freedom and prosperity — and, as the name implies, provide for the national defense — these highways tore through urban neighborhoods, destroying once-thriving communities and displacing countless citizens, many of them people of color. In this special report, we examine just what inspired this massive project and the effects it had on two communities, one in New Orleans and one in Syracuse. This episode was produced with the generous support of the Helen & William Mazer Foundation. Join The War on Cars on Patreon and listen to exclusive ad-free versions of regular episodes, Patreon-only bonus content, Discord access, invitations to live events, merch discounts and free stickers! Order our new book, Life After Cars: Freeing Ourselves from the Tyranny of the Automobile, out now from Thesis, an imprint of Penguin Random House. Find us on tour and get tickets at lifeaftercars.com. Thanks to Cleverhood for sponsoring this episode. Listen to this episode for the latest discount code and get the best rain gear for walking and cycling. www.thewaroncars.org  

Happy New Year! To kick off the year with a bang we're joined by Brit Koch, an Indigenous educator and creator who teaches rest, ritual, and resistance, for a grounded conversation on decolonizing self-care and spirituality.Brit breaks down what “decolonizing self-care” actually means: moving away from the consumer-driven version of wellness (the constant “buy this to feel better” cycle) and returning to practices that are accessible, nature-rooted, and internally led. We talk about the line between appreciation vs. appropriation, including why white sage is a common example and what to do if you already own it.We also explore the recent history many people were never taught, including how Indigenous spiritual practices were legally restricted until 1978, and why that context matters when we talk about “gatekeeping.” From there, Brit shares simple, no-cost practices you can start with today like grounding, working with the elements, and reconnecting with your ancestry and lineage in respectful ways.Plus, we discuss how creators and teachers can engage in this work without tokenizing, and how self-care can expand into community care in a sustainable, meaningful way.You can find links to Brit's books and website here:Rooted RitualsReclaimed & Radicalbritkoch.comJoin our Patreon for bonus episodes, magical downloads, and unhinged side quests: https://www.patreon.com/demystifymagicPre-order Molly's book Mundane Magic A Lazy Witch's Guide to Hacking Your Brain, Building a Daily Practice, and Getting Stuff DonePreorder Mundane Magic & Join the Virtual Book Tour⁠: Celebrate the release of Molly's new book with an exclusive online event on Feb 21, 12 PM EST. Get behind-the-scenes insights, live Q&A, and your SIGNED copy shipped on release day.

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Debra Meyerson and the “Slow Fall Off a Cliff”: Aphasia After Stroke, Identity, and What Recovery Really Means There are stroke stories that arrive like lightning. And then there are the ones that feel like a quiet, terrifying slide hour by hour until you wake up and everything is different. For Debra Meyerson (also known as Deborah), that difference had a name: “the slow fall off a cliff.” Her husband Steve describes watching the change unfold overnight in the hospital, neurological tests every hour, skills fading, the unknown getting heavier with each check-in. And the scariest part? Not knowing where the bottom was. This episode isn't only about what Debra lost. It's about what she rebuilt with aphasia, with grief, with a fierce independence that made asking for help its own mountain, and with a new definition of recovery that doesn't depend on going back in time. When Stroke Doesn't “Hit”… It Develops One of the most jarring elements of Debra's experience was the way the stroke revealed itself. Steve shares that Debra left the emergency room still talking, slurring a little, but still planning. Still believing she'd be back teaching soon. Then the overnight monitoring began, and the decline became visible. From midnight to morning, her movement and speech changed dramatically. By morning, she couldn't move her right side. And she couldn't make a sound. That's what makes Debra's phrase so powerful: it captures the reality many survivors and families live through, watching ability disappear in stages, not all at once. It's not just a medical event. It's an emotional one. And it changes how you experience time. The mind starts bargaining. The heart starts bracing. The body is suddenly not predictable anymore. The Hidden Clue: Dissection, Headaches, and Near-Misses Debra's stroke was ischemic, but the cause wasn't a typical blood clot. Steve explains that it was due to a dissection, a tear in the inner wall of an artery. In the months leading up to the stroke, there were warning signs: severe headaches episodes where she nearly lost consciousness a moment where she told their son, “I think I'm having a stroke,” but the symptoms resolved before EMS arrived Steve describes a likely “opening and closing” pattern of temporary interruptions to blood flow that didn't show up clearly during exams because, in the moment, she appeared okay. This is one reason caregivers can feel so haunted after the fact: you did the right things, you sought help, you went to specialists… and the stroke still happened. That's not failure. That's reality. 20230922-GSE headshots at CERAS building in Stanford, CA Aphasia After Stroke: When Words Don't Do What You Want Aphasia isn't one experience. It's a spectrum, and Debra's challenge is word-finding, both in speaking and writing. When Bill asks whether writing is easier than speaking, Debra's answer is simple and blunt: it's hard either way. She also notes that dictation isn't a shortcut. What makes Debra's story especially moving is how Steve describes the long arc of speech returning: weeks before she could even form sounds a month or two before repeating words then, months later, the first original word that made it out unprompted, not as an exercise It happened during a normal moment at a table with family, searching for the name of the pig from a movie no one could remember. And Debra suddenly blurted out: “Babe.” It might sound small to someone who's never experienced aphasia. But for anyone who has, or for anyone who's loved someone through it, that moment is enormous. It's proof that the brain is still reaching for language. Proof that the person is still in there, still trying to connect. And yes, Steve mentions melodic intonation therapy, a method that attempts to engage the brain's musical/singing pathways to support speech. Debra's improvement, even years later, is described as gradual marginal gains that add up over time. The Identity Problem Nobody Prepares You For When Bill asks what part of her old identity was hardest to let go, Debra points to the heart of it: Stanford professor athlete fiercely independent skiing (a love that mattered deeply) the ability to do life without needing so much help This is the part many survivors don't see coming: you're not only recovering movement or speech. You're grieving a version of yourself that once felt automatic. And that grief can be complicated, because you might still look like you. Inside, everything is renegotiated. This is where Debra and Steve offer something that can change the trajectory of recovery: adaptation instead of abandonment. Debra couldn't ride a single bike anymore, but they began riding a tandem, and it became the thing they could do together vigorously, something athletic, meaningful, and shared. Not the same. But real. Cycles of Grief: Joy Can Trigger Loss Debra describes grief as something that shows up constantly, “every day… every hour.” Steve offers a powerful example: becoming grandparents. Debra was ecstatic. Over the moon. And then, the next morning, she was furious, spring-loaded into a bad mood, snapping at everything. Why? Because beneath the joy was a private inventory of what she couldn't do: hold the baby safely change a diaper be alone with their grandson the way she wanted to be chase a toddler the way she imagined This is what “cycles of grief” looks like. Not sadness replacing joy. Sadness sitting next to joy. And if survivors don't understand that's normal, they can interpret it as brokenness or failure. It's not. It's grief doing what grief does: reminding you of what mattered. The Care Partner Trap: Guilt, Burnout, and the “Fix It” Reflex Care partners often disappear inside the role. Steve names a different approach, one supported early by friends who told him plainly: if you don't take care of yourself, you're no use to Deb. So he set priorities: exercise eating well sleeping well He also acknowledges how support made that possible: family help, flexible work, and friends showing up. Then comes a line that many couples will recognize immediately: toxic positivity. Steve admits he struggles with sadness; he tends to solve problems, cheer people up, and push toward the bright side. But Debra doesn't always want to be talked out of it. Sometimes she needs space to grieve without being “fixed.” That's the lesson: Support isn't always uplifting someone. Sometimes support is staying present while they feel what they feel. “True Recovery Is Creating a Life of Meaning” Debra's philosophy shows up in the opening of her book and in the arc of this conversation: “True recovery is creating a life of meaning.” At first, recovery was about returning to who she used to be, therapy, effort, pushing hard. Then something shifted: writing a book became a turning point. It helped her stop using her old identity as the measuring stick and start asking a new question: “How do I rebuild a life I can feel good about with the cards I've been dealt?” That idea is the bridge for so many survivors: You don't have to pretend you're fine. You don't have to deny what you lost. But you also don't have to wait for a full return to start living again. Debra Meyerson: Aphasia After Stroke Interview Debra Meyerson's “slow fall off a cliff” stroke led to aphasia, grief, and a new definition of recovery: rebuilding identity with meaning. Stroke Onward: InstagramX.COMFacebookLinkedInYouTubeTikTokVimeo Debra Meyerson X.COMLinkedInFacebookInstagramSteve:LinkedIn Highlights: 00:00 Introduction and Background06:11 The Experience of a Stroke: A Slow Fall Off a Cliff22:45 Navigating Caregiving: Balancing Needs and Support32:01 Understanding Aphasia: A Spectrum of Experiences43:05 The Importance of Sadness in Healing50:08 Finding Purpose Through Advocacy53:31 Building the Stroke Onward Foundation57:12 Advice for New Stroke Survivors Transcript: Introduction and Background –  Steve Zuckerman and Debra Meyerson Bill Gasiamis (00:00)Welcome to the recovery after stroke podcast. name is Bill. And if you’re a stroke survivor or you love someone who is you’re in the right place before we begin a genuine thank you to my Patreon supporters. After more than 10 years of hosting this show solo, your support helps cover the costs of keeping it online and helps me keep showing up for stroke survivors who need hope and direction. And thank you to everyone who supports the show in the simple ways to YouTube comments, Spotify, Apple reviews. people who’ve grabbed my book, and even those who stick around and don’t skip the ads. It all matters more than you know. Today you’re going to meet Deborah Meyerson and her husband, Steve Zuckerman. Deborah describes her stroke as a slow fall off a cliff. And that phrase captures something so many stroke survivors experience but struggle to explain. We talk about aphasia after stroke, word finding. The moment a single word returned and what happens when recovery stops meaning going back and starts meaning rebuilding a life you can actually feel proud of. Deborah and Steve Myerson. Welcome to the podcast. Debra and Steve (01:08)Steve Zuckerman That’s okay. I don’t mind being Mr. Meyerson from time to time. Bill Gasiamis (01:17)Steve Zuckerman, of course. I mean, I’ve seen it on every email. I’ve seen it on every conversation we’ve had, but that’s okay. I mean, you’ve probably been called worst, Steve. Debra and Steve (01:29)Absolutely, much worse. Bill Gasiamis (01:32)Debra, before the stroke, how would you have described yourself professionally, socially and personally? Debra and Steve (01:39)Outgoing, social, comfortable, no time to to to other’s time. Not taking up other people’s time? Yes. In contrast to me. Bill Gasiamis (01:59)Yes, David, you’re very needy. Debra and Steve (02:02)Yeah, and ⁓ yeah, it’s really outgoing. Bill Gasiamis (02:09)Outgoing, yeah, fantastic. Debra and Steve (02:11)I’ll add, because you didn’t say it, a incredibly hardworking, self-demanding professional for whom good was never good enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Bill Gasiamis (02:23)perfectionist. Fair enough Steve. What roles defined you back then? you’re a partner, you’re a father. How did you go about your day? Debra and Steve (02:37)I mean, I think, you know, very similar to Deb, we were both hard driving professionals who had serious careers. We had three kids that we were raising together and both took parenting very seriously. So worked really hard, you know, to not travel at the same time, to be home for dinner, ⁓ to be at sports games. And we were both very athletic. So both things we did together and things we did separately. I think, you know, before Deb’s stroke, most of our time and attention was focused on career and family and, you know, sort of friends were a third, but, ⁓ staying healthy and staying fit. So those were kind of all parts of, I think, who we both were. met mother, ⁓ athletic sailor, biker, ⁓ ⁓ family is first in academics. Bill Gasiamis (03:44)and academic and what field were you guys working in? Debra and Steve (03:48)No, am a, Steve is not academic. I am an academic. ⁓ Deb was, you know, immediately before the stroke. Deb was a tenured professor at Stanford. She had had lots of other academic jobs before that. ⁓ We met when I was in grad school for an MBA and Deb was getting her PhD. ⁓ So, you know, she is lot smarter than I am and was willing to work a lot harder academically than I ever was. ⁓ I’ve bounced back and forth between kind of nonprofit roles, nonprofit management roles, and a career in finance and business. So I sort of… have moved back and forth between for-profit and not-for-profit, but always sort of on the business side of things. Bill Gasiamis (04:50)often say when people meet my wife, Christine, for the first time and we talk about what we do and the things that we say. I always say to people that between me and my wife, we have four degrees. And then I qualify that. say, she has four and I have zero. And ⁓ she has a master’s in psychology, but ⁓ I never went to university. I never did any of that stuff. Debra and Steve (05:10)Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (05:19)So it’s very interesting to meet somebody who’s very academic and to be a part of her life when she’s in the study zone. my gosh, like I have never studied that much, that intensely, that hard for anything. And it’s a sight to behold. And I’m not sure how people go through all the academic side, all the requirements. And then also Deb, being a mom, being a friend. being active in your community and doing all the things that you do. I just don’t know how people fit it in. So it’s a fascinating thing to experience and then to observe other people go through. Debra and Steve (05:57)It’s really that we had really a lot of time to talk. It was a full life. Debra Meyerson – The Experience of a Stroke: A Slow Fall Off a Cliff Bill Gasiamis (06:11)Yeah, fantastic. What you did, Deb has described the ⁓ stroke as a slow fall off a cliff. What did it actually feel like in the first moments that the stroke happened? Debra and Steve (06:28)Two weeks after my stroke, I am going to the, back to the classroom. I am really not aware of the damage. So right at the outset, Deb was kind of in denial. As the symptoms were first starting to set in, she was still talking about you know, okay, this is annoying, but in three weeks I’m starting the semester ⁓ and genuinely believed she would. actually the slow fall off a cliff was really how I described the first full night in the hospital. This was in Reno, Nevada. ⁓ And Deb sort of left the emergency room talking. slurring her words a little bit, but talking about how she was going to be back in the classroom. And then over the course of that night, from midnight to eight in the morning, they woke her every hour to do a neurological test, you move your arm, move your leg, point to this, you know, say this word and just her skills got worse and worse and worse. And in the morning, She couldn’t move her right side at all and couldn’t make a sound. And that was the, that’s what we called the slow fall off the cliff because we knew at midnight that there was significant brain damage, but we didn’t see the ramifications of that damage. sort of happened over that eight hour period. ⁓ that Deb really wasn’t aware of any of that. was. you know, kind of her brain was in survival mode. ⁓ But for myself and our oldest son, Danny, you know, that was sort of a feeling of helplessness. was watching the person you love kind of fade away or the capabilities fade away. And we didn’t know how low the bottom would be ⁓ without being able to do anything. Bill Gasiamis (08:53)Is there an explanation for that? Now, obviously Deb had a stroke, so that’s the overarching issue, the problem. But I’ve had a lot of stroke survivors explain their symptoms in that slow onset ⁓ situation, whereas mine were just there. I had a blade in my brain, the symptoms were there. Another person ⁓ had an ischemic stroke, bang, the symptoms were there. So why does it take so long for some people to, for the symptoms to develop? Debra and Steve (09:25)I had a dissection five months ago for this stroke. I had really bad headaches. Yeah, so five, six months before Deb’s stroke, she was having bad headaches. She had two episodes where she kind of almost lost consciousness. And one of them, she actually said to our son, call dad, I think I’m having a stroke. And by the time the EMS got there, she was fine. ⁓ Her stroke, it turned out was caused by a dissection, which is a tear. in the inner wall of the artery. So in some ways it’s like a blood clot. It is an ischemic stroke because it’s the blockage of blood flow. But unlike most ischemic strokes, it’s not because of a blood clot. It’s because of this flap of, it’s not biologically skin, but it’s like a flap of skin coming across and blocking off the blood flow. And what they think happened, and it’s really just educated guessing, is that for that six month period, the flap was there, but it kind of kept opening, closing, opening, closing. So she’d have temporary loss of blood flow to the brain, but not permanent loss. Bill Gasiamis (11:04)We’ll be back with more of Deborah Meyers’ remarkable story in just a moment, but I wanna pause here because what Deborah and Steve are describing is something a lot of us live with quietly. That feeling, you can be having a good moment and then grief shows up out of nowhere, or you’re working so hard to stay positive and it starts to feel like pressure instead of support. In the second half, we’ll go deeper into the cycles of grief. the trap of toxic positivity and the shift that changed everything for Deborah when she stopped measuring recovery by who she used to be and started rebuilding identity with meaning. If this podcast has helped you feel less alone, you can support it by sharing this episode with one person who needs it, leaving a comment or subscribing wherever you’re watching or listening. All right, back to Deborah and Steve. Debra and Steve (11:58)And when she had those two events, it was probably stayed closed a little bit longer, but then opened up. But she had a scan, she went to neurologists and because every time she was examined, it was okay. They didn’t find the problem. And then when she had the stroke, it was a permanent blockage that just didn’t open back up again. And Your question is a great one that I’ve never asked. I don’t know why, because what they told us was we can see the damage to the brain. The brain has been damaged. They can tell that on the scan, but that the impact of that damage, how it will affect your motion and your speech will play out over time. And I don’t know why that was true for Deb, whereas, as you say, for some people, it seems like the impact is immediate. And that’s a, that’s a good one. I’m going to, I’m going to Try to research that a little bit. Bill Gasiamis (12:58)That’s just a curious thing, isn’t it? to sort of understand the difference between one and the other. I’m not sure whether if we find out what the difference is, whether there’s say something that a stroke survivor listening can do or a caregiver can do in that situation, like what can be done? How can it be resolved? Maybe different steps that we need to take. I don’t know, but I’d love to know if there was a doctor or a neurologist or somebody who might be able to answer that. Maybe we need to find someone. Debra and Steve (13:29)The doctor and the neurologist didn’t see it. Yeah, in the period before the stroke, they didn’t see it. While we were in the hospital when the stroke was happening, what they told us was at that point, there really wasn’t anything that could be done. The damage was done. So no intervention. would lessen the damage. ⁓ again, we are far from doctors. So there’s a lot about that that we don’t know. Bill Gasiamis (14:08)understood. Deb, what part of your old identity was the hardest to let go? Debra and Steve (14:14)The Stanford professor, athlete, had really a lot of… One hand is so difficult and independent person. Bill Gasiamis (14:33)Yeah. Debra and Steve (14:34)I am, skiing is so, I really love to ski and I am not, I am really not able to ski. Bill Gasiamis (14:52)understood so you were a professor, you were independent, you were physically active and all that stuff has had to stop happening at this point in time. Debra and Steve (15:03)I am the…striking…crossing…cycling…we are the…the…Sieve and I… Bill Gasiamis (15:19)You guys used to do something tandem. Debra and Steve (15:21)Yes, a lot of time in the stroke across America. Well, so I think we’re sort of answering a couple of different questions at the same time. I think what Deb was saying was early on, kind of in that first three or four years, she really, you know, was giving up her role as a Stanford professor, giving up skiing, cycling, sailing, and just the… not being a fully independent person needing so much help. That was really a lot of the struggle early on. Deb did return to a lot of those things. And that was a big part of the recovery process was realizing that she may not be able to do them the same way she used to, but there were a lot of different things. And then the cycling, Deb can’t ride a single bike, but we started riding a tandem. And that adaptation has proven really important for us because it’s, it’s the thing we can now do together vigorously for long periods of time. That is really a, a sport that we can do together, ⁓ and love. And so that that’s really been a, an adaptive way to get back to something, not exactly the same way as she used to do it before the stroke, but in a way that is very meaningful. Bill Gasiamis (16:46)A lot of stroke survivors tend to have trouble with letting go of their old identity in that they feel like they need to completely pause it and put the whole identity aside rather than adapt it and change it so that you bring over the parts that you can and you make the most of them, know. And adaptive sport is the perfect way. You see a lot of people in the Paralympics becoming gold medalists after they’ve been injured. a sports person before their injury and now all of a sudden they’re champion gold medal winning athletes because they decided to adapt and find another way to participate. And that’s what I love about what you guys just said. That’s still able to meet the needs of that identity, but in a slightly different way. What about you, Steve? Like when Deb goes through a difficult time and she has a stroke and then you guys come home from hospital, you’re dealing with, ⁓ well, all the changes in your life as well because you become a care, while you guys describe it as a care partner, we’ll talk about that in a moment. But as a care partner, ⁓ how do you go about doing that without, and also at the same time, protecting a little bit of your needs and making sure that your needs are met? Because a lot of caregivers, care partners, put all their needs aside and then they make it about the person who is ⁓ recovering from stroke. And then it leads to two people becoming unwell in different ways. One potentially emotionally, mentally, and the other person physically and all the other things that stroke does. Debra and Steve (18:36)Yeah, I mean, I think, um, Kyle was lucky in a couple of ways. One, a very close friend very early on who had been through similar situations said, you know, don’t forget, you’ve got to take care of yourself. If you don’t, you’re of no use to Deb. And so from the very beginning, I had people reminding me. I also had a ton of support in supporting Deb. Deb’s mom, you know, came up and lived with us for six months. ⁓ So I could go back to work a lot sooner than I otherwise would have been able to go back to work. And I was fortunate that my job was fairly flexible. ⁓ But, you know, I loved my work and it meant I wasn’t focused on the caregiving or care partnering aspects of my role 24 seven. I got to go do something else independently. ⁓ We also had a lot of friends lend support as well. So, you know, I think I basically said, I’ve got to organize around supporting Deb, no question about it. But with guidance from friends, I sort of said, okay, my three priorities are going to be exercising, eating well, and sleeping well. And I really just set those out as my goals and I created ways to do that. wall and that was sort of my physical health but also my mental health. And so, you know, sort of a problem solver and compartmentalizer by nature. So I guess maybe I was lucky that dividing up those roles was a little more natural to me than maybe it is for others. But it also took, you know, took deliberate choice to make sure not to let myself get sucked so far into the caring piece. that I got in healthy and was lucky enough to have support so that I was able to not let that happen. Bill Gasiamis (20:42)Yeah, a lot of people feel guilt like this unnecessary guilt that, I can’t leave that person alone or I can’t ⁓ look after myself or take some time to myself because the other person needs me more than I need me. And that’s an interesting thing to experience people talk about in the caregiver role where they become so overwhelmed with the need to help support the other person that they… ⁓ that they have guilt any time that they step away and allocate some care to themselves. They see caring as a role that they play, not as a thing that they also need to practice. Debra and Steve (21:29)Yeah, yeah. Well, I think I was also lucky because Deb is so fiercely independent that she wanted as little help as she could possibly get away with. So ⁓ she was not the kind of stroke survivor that was sort of getting mad when I walked out of the room. It was like she was trying to kick me out of the room at times that I shouldn’t leave the room. And so, you know, again, ⁓ Deb was not a demanding, again, she just wanted as little help as she could possibly survive with. And that probably made it easier for me to not feel guilty because it’s like, well, that’s what she wants. She wants me to get out of here as long as she was safe. Navigating Caregiving: Balancing Needs and Support Bill Gasiamis (22:16)That mindset is a really useful one. It makes it possible for people to activate neural plasticity in the most ⁓ positive way. Because some people don’t realize that when it’s hard to do something and then the easier thing is to say, Steve, can you go get me that or can you do this for me? That neural plasticity is also activated, but in a negative way. ⁓ How does your recovery or your definition of recovery evolve over time? How did it change over time? Debra and Steve (22:57)⁓ How did how you think about recovery change over time? The realizing I had to build realizing I had the of my identity and my life. The same past and writing a book. ⁓ Three, four years ago, four years after my stroke, really, well, ⁓ I am really, I am so committed to doing the best. No. I mean, you know, the first three or four years after Deb’s stroke, it really was all about trying to get back to who she used to be. Therapy, therapy, therapy, therapy, therapy, work hard, we’ll get back to life as we do it. And when Deb said, when she lost tenure and said she wanted to write a book, I thought she was nuts. was like, you know, her speech wasn’t as good then as it is now. you I was at her side when she wrote her first academic book and that was brutal and she didn’t have aphasia. So I was like, I really thought she was nuts. But in hindsight, it really was that process of writing a book that got her to turn her knowledge about identity onto herself. that really changed her view of what recovery meant. She sort of started to let go of recovery means getting back to everything I used to be doing and recovery means how do I rebuild an identity that I can feel good about? May not be the one I’d ideally want, but in the face of my disabilities, how do I rebuild that identity so that I can rebuild a good and purposeful and meaningful life? that really was an evolution for both of us. over the five-year book writing period. I sometimes say it was the longest, cheapest therapy session we could have gotten because it really was that kind of therapeutic journey for us. And really a lot of the 25 people are in the book and the friends and colleagues are in the book, really a lot of the colleagues. Deb was a social scientist and a researcher and she didn’t want to write a memoir. She wanted to write a research book. It has elements of a memoir because her story and our story is threaded throughout. But, you know, we learned so much from the interviews Deb did and and I was not involved in the interviewing process, but having that diversity of stories and understanding some of the things that were very common for stroke survivors and other things that were so different from survivor to survivor helped her, helped us on our journey. So that book writing process had so many benefits. Bill Gasiamis (26:49)Very therapeutic, isn’t it? I went on a similar journey with my book when I wrote it and it was about, again, sharing other people’s stories, a little bit about mine, but sharing what we had in common, know, how did we all kind of work down this path of being able to say later on that stroke was the best thing that happened. Clearly not from a health perspective or from a ⁓ life, ⁓ you know. the risk of life perspective, from a growth perspective, from this ability to be able to ⁓ look at the situation and try and work out like, is there any silver linings? What are the silver linings? And I get a sense that you guys are, your idea of the book was in a similar nature. Do you guys happen to have a copy of the book there? Debra and Steve (27:39)Yes. Of course. Don’t we have it everywhere? Bill Gasiamis (27:42)Yeah, I hope so. Identity theft, yep. I’ve got my copy here somewhere as well. Now, how come I didn’t bring it to the desk? One second, let me bring mine. Yes. There you go, there’s mine as well. I’ve got it here as well. So it’s a really lovely book. ⁓ Hard copy. ⁓ Debra and Steve (27:52)Yeah. You must have the first edition not the second edition. Because we didn’t print the second edition in hard copy so it’s not a white cover can’t tell in the photo. Bill Gasiamis (28:07)okay, that’s why. That is a blue cover. Debra and Steve (28:17)⁓ No, the paper cover on the front. Bill Gasiamis (28:20)The paper cover is a white cover. Debra and Steve (28:22)Yeah. So that’s actually the first edition of the book that came out in 2019. And then the second edition just came out about two months ago. ⁓ And they are largely the same. But the second edition has a new preface that sort of, because we wrote that in 2019 and then had five years of working on Stroke Onward and learning more, we kind of brought our story up to 2020. 2024 and then two chapters at the end, one with some of the insights we’ve learned ⁓ kind of since writing the first book and a final chapter about what we think might need to change in the US healthcare system to better support stroke survivors. So we’ll have to get you a copy of the new one. Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (29:13)Yeah, why not? Signed copy, thank you very much. ⁓ Debra and Steve (29:15)Yeah, and the Julia Wieland. ⁓ It’s available on audiobook as well via, we were fortunate to be able to work with a great narrator named Julia Wieland, who’s an award winning audiobook narrator and actually has a business called Audio Brary that she started to really honor narrators and help promote the narrating of audio. the narrators of audio books. ⁓ well, make sure you send us an email with the right mailing address and we’ll get you new copy. Bill Gasiamis (29:55)Yeah, that’d be lovely. So what I’ll do also is on the show notes, there’ll be all the links for where people can buy the book, right? We won’t need to talk about that. We’ll just ensure that they’re included on the show notes. I love the opening page in the book. ⁓ It’s written, I imagine, I believe that’s Deborah’s writing. Debra and Steve (30:14)⁓ yeah, yeah. yes, we have a signed copy of the first edition. Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (30:20)So it says true recovery is creating a life of meaning. Deborah Meyerson. Yeah, you guys sent me that quite a while ago. By the time we actually connected, so much time had passed. There was a lot of people involved in getting us together. And you know, I’m a stroke survivor too. So things slipped my mind and we began this conversation to try and get together literally, I think about a year earlier. So I love that I have this. this copy and I’m looking forward to the updated one. ⁓ And it’s just great that one of the first things that Deb decided to do was write a book after all the troubles. Now your particular aphasia Deb, I’m wondering is that also, does that make it difficult for you to get words out of your head in your writing as well and typing? Debra and Steve (31:13)Yes, dictation is my dictation. It’s so hard. Speaking and writing isn’t the same. Bill Gasiamis (31:31)Speaking and writing is the same kind of level of difficulty. Understanding Aphasia: A Spectrum of Experiences Debra and Steve (31:35)Yeah, and the ⁓ other survivors in aphasia didn’t, Michael is. Want me to help? Yeah. Yeah, just that, and I think you know that there are so many different ways aphasia manifests itself and word finding is Deb’s challenge and it’s true whether she’s speaking or writing. other people and a guy who rode cross country with us, Michael Obellomiya, he has fluent aphasia. So he speaks very fluently, but sometimes the words that come out aren’t what he means them to be. So the meaning of what he says, even though he says it very fluently, and he also has, I think, some degree of receptive aphasia so that he hears what people are saying, but sometimes the instruction or the detail doesn’t. register for him and so aphasia can be very very different for different people. Bill Gasiamis (32:37)Yeah, there’s definitely a spectrum of aphasia. then sometimes I get to interview people really early on in their journey with aphasia and, ⁓ and speech is extremely difficult. And then later on, if I meet them again, a few years down the track, they have ⁓ an improvement somewhat. ⁓ perhaps there’s still some difficulty there, but they can often improve. ⁓ how much different was the Debra and Steve (33:08)15 years ago? I don’t know speech at all. Bill Gasiamis (33:23)No speech at all. Debra and Steve (33:24)Yeah. So Deb, it took several weeks for her to even be able to create sounds, maybe a month or two before she was sort of repeating words. ⁓ We have a great story of the first time Deb actually produced a word out of her brain. So it wasn’t an answer to a question or a therapy exercise. but we were sitting around a table and a bunch of people who hadn’t had strokes were saying, what’s that? No, my family. Yeah, with your brother. No, our family. Yeah. Danny and… Okay, anyway. We were talking about, what was that movie where the guy trained a pig to… do a dog show and what was the pig’s name and none of us could remember it and Deb just blurted out, babe. And it was like we started screaming and shouting because it was the first time that something that started as an original thought in her head actually got out. And that was like four months after her stroke. ⁓ A year after her stroke, it was really just isolated words. ⁓ She then did a clinical trial with something called melodic intonation, a kind of speech therapy that tries to tap into the other side of the brain, the singing side of the brain. And then I would say, you know, it’s been, mean, Deb’s speech is still getting better. So it’s just marginal improvement ⁓ over time. Bill Gasiamis (35:10)Yeah, Deb, what parts of Professor Deborah Meyerson remain and what’s entirely new now? Debra and Steve (35:19)⁓ The sharing knowledge and trading knowledge is the same. The new is how I do it. More constraints, I need help. really help and I am so bad at asking. Really bad at asking. I have really a lot of phases of classes and Ballroom classes, you know ballroom dancing. Yeah, no In the work we do Deb’s favorite thing to do is to teach so we’ve been invited, you know ⁓ Quite a few speech therapists in the United States are using identity theft as part of the curriculum in their aphasia course in the speech language pathology programs Bill Gasiamis (36:28)So speaker-2 (36:28)I’ll be. Debra and Steve (36:48)⁓ and we’ve been invited to visit and talk in classes. And Deb just loves that because it’s back to sharing knowledge. It’s a different kind of knowledge. It’s not about the work she did before her stroke, but it’s about the work and the life experience since. that is still, Professor Deb is still very much with us. Bill Gasiamis (37:14)Yeah, Professor Deb, fiercely independent, ⁓ doesn’t like to ask for help, ⁓ still prefers to kind of battle on and get things done as much as possible and suffer through the difficulty of that and then eventually ask for help. Do you kind of eventually? Debra and Steve (37:32)Yeah, yeah, you skipped the part about correcting everything her husband says. That’s not quite exactly right. Bill Gasiamis (37:40)Well, that’s part of the course there, Steve. That’s exactly how it’s meant to be. And you should be better at being more accurate with what you have to say. Debra and Steve (37:49)I thought we’d be on the same side on this one. Bill Gasiamis (37:53)Sometimes, sometimes as a host, you know, I have to pick my hero and as a husband, I truly and totally get you. Deb, you describe experiencing cycles of grief. ⁓ What does that actually look like in a day-to-day life now? And I kind of get a sense of what cycles of grief would mean, but I’d love to hear your thoughts, your version of what that means. Debra and Steve (38:22)Every day, hour every day, small ways and big ways. Like one year ago, Well, grandmothers. Can I correct you? It was 16 months ago. I’m going to get her back. Yeah. That’s what she does to me all the time. I am really happy. Make sure you explain. don’t know if they would have caught what it was that made you so happy. Grandmother. Sarah, Danny and Vivian. I know, you don’t have to tell me. Just that we became grandparents for the first time. And Deb was ecstatic. I am so happy and also really frustrated. And I don’t… crawling… no. You want me to help? I mean, you know, it’s sort of the day we got there, the day after the baby was born in New York and Deb was over the moon and the next morning… We were walking back to the hospital and Deb was just spring-loaded to the pissed off position. She was getting mad at me for everything and anything and she was clearly in an unbelievably bad mood. And when I could finally get her to say what was wrong, it was that she had been playing all night and all morning all the ways in which she couldn’t be the grandmother she wanted to be. She couldn’t hold the baby. She couldn’t change a diaper. She couldn’t, you know, spell the kids later on to give them a break by herself because she wouldn’t be able to chase no one is our grandson around. And so she had had really kind of gone into grieving about what she had lost just in the moment when she was experiencing the greatest joy in her life. And that’s an extreme example of a cycle of grief. And but it happens, as Deb was saying, it happens. every hour, maybe three times an hour where you’re doing something that’s good, but then it reminds you of how you used to do that same thing. so, you know, when we talk about and write about cycles of grief, it’s the importance of giving yourself that space to grieve because it’s human. You lost something important and it’s human to let yourself acknowledge that. But then how do you get through that and get back to the good part and not let that grief trap you? And that story from 16 months ago in New York is sort of the, that’s the poster child, but it happens in big ways and small ways every day, 10 times a day. Bill Gasiamis (42:00)Sadness is a thing that happens to people all the time and it’s about knowing how to navigate it. And I think people generally lack the tools to navigate sadness. They lack the tools to ⁓ deal with it, to know what to do with it. But I think there needs to be some kind of information put out there. Like you’re sad. Okay. So what does it mean? What can it mean? What can you do with it? How can you transform it? Is it okay to sit in it? ⁓ What have you guys learned about the need for sadness in healing? Debra and Steve (42:35)grief and sadness is so important and through the really once it’s an hour. The Importance of Sadness in Healing From my perspective, I have learned a ton about sadness because I don’t have a good relationship with sadness. In most cases, it’s a great thing. just, you know, I’m a cup is nine tenths full person all the time and I tend to see the positive and that’s often very good. But it makes it really hard for me to live with other people’s sadness without trying to solve the problem. Bill Gasiamis (43:12)Hmm. Debra and Steve (43:35)And we actually came up with a phrase because sometimes if I get positive when Deb is sad, it just pisses her off. She doesn’t want to be talked out of it. And so we now talk about that dynamic as toxic positivity because, you know, most people think of positivity as such a positive thing. And yet If someone needs to just live in sadness for a little while, positivity can be really toxic. And I think that’s been my greatest learning, maybe growth is sort of understanding that better. I still fall into the trap all the time. devil tell you there are way too many times when, you know, my attempts to cheer her up are not welcomed. but at least I’m aware of it now. ⁓ And a little less likely to go there quite as quickly. Bill Gasiamis (44:38)Hmm. What I, what I noticed when people were coming to see me is that it was about them. They would come to see me about them. It wasn’t about me and what they made them do. What made what their instinct was, was to, if I felt better, they felt better and all they wanted to do was feel better and not be uncomfortable and not be struggling in their own ⁓ mind about what it’s like. to visit Bill who’s unwell. And that was the interesting part. It’s like, no, no, I am feeling unwell. I am going to remain feeling unwell. And your problem with it is your problem with it. You need to deal with how you feel about me feeling unwell. And I appreciate the empathy, the sympathy, the care I do. But actually, when you visit me, it shouldn’t be about you. It shouldn’t be, I’m gonna go and visit Bill. and I hope he’s well because I don’t want to experience him being unwell. It should be about you’re just gonna go visit Bill however you find him, whatever state he’s in, whatever condition he’s in, and therefore ⁓ that I think creates an opportunity for growth and that person needs to consider how they need to grow to adapt to this new relationship that they have with Bill. ⁓ which is based now around Bill’s challenges, Bill’s problems, Bill’s surgery, Bill’s pos- the possibility that Bill won’t be around in a few months or whatever. Do you know what I mean? So it’s like, ⁓ all, all the, ⁓ the well-meaning part of it is well received, but then it’s about everyone has a, has to step up and experience growth in this new relationship that we have. And some people are not willing to do it and then they don’t come at all. They’re the people who I find other most interesting and maybe ⁓ the most follow their instincts better than everybody where they might go, well, I’m going to go and say, Bill, he’s all messed up. ⁓ I don’t know how I’m going to deal with that. can’t cope with that. And rather than going there and being a party pooper or not knowing what to say or saying the wrong thing, maybe I won’t go at all. And they kind of create space. Debra and Steve (46:58)So. Bill Gasiamis (47:01)for your recovery to happen without you having to experience their version of it. Debra and Steve (47:09)Yeah, that’s it. That’s really interesting to hear you talk about it that way. And I would say very generous to hear you talk about it that way, because most of the time when we’ve heard people talk about it’s that because people talk about the fact that because other people don’t know what to say, they don’t say anything or they don’t come. But that then creates an isolation that’s unwanted. You’re talking about it as a, maybe that’s a good thing. They’re giving me space, given their skill or willingness to deal with it. Whereas I think a lot of people feel that when people just disappear because they don’t know what to say, that’s a lack of caring and a lack of engagement. ⁓ interesting to hear your take on it. think there’s a close cousin to this that Deb felt very intensely is that some people in the attempt to be understanding and supportive really took on an air of pity. And that there were some people that that we had to ask not to come if they couldn’t change how they were relating to Deb because it was such a like, ⁓ you poor thing that was incredibly disempowering. Whereas there were other people who had the skill to be empathetic in a supportive way. And so, I mean, in some ways, I think we’ve learned a lot, not that we necessarily do it right all the time, but we’ve learned a lot about how to try to support other people by what has and hasn’t worked in supporting us. Bill Gasiamis (49:20)Yeah, it’s a deeply interesting conversation because people get offended when they need people the most that don’t turn up. And I, and I understand that part of it as well. And then in, in time, ⁓ I was, I was like that at the beginning, but then in time, I kind of realized that, okay, this is actually not about me. It’s about them. They’re the ones struggling with my condition. They don’t know how to be. And maybe it’s okay for them. not to be around me because I wouldn’t be able to deal with their energy anyway. ⁓ yeah. So Deb, what made you turn to advocacy? What made you decide that you’re gonna be an advocate in this space? Finding Purpose Through Advocacy Debra and Steve (50:08)⁓ Feeling purpose and meaning. Survivors? Yes. And caregivers? Yes. Really a lot of risky is really… ⁓ medical, medical. Yeah. I mean, I I, I know what Deb is trying to say, which is, you know, once she got past the life threatening part and kind of on her way and was relatively independent, she was drawn back to saying, I want to live a life that has meaning and purpose. And so how in this new state, can I do that? And Deb, as I’m sure you know by now, doesn’t think small, she thinks big. And so what she’s saying is, yes, I want to help other people, other survivors, other care partners, but really we need a better system. Like I can only help so many people by myself, but if we can actually advocate for a better healthcare system in the United States that treats stroke differently. then maybe we can make a difference for a lot of people. that’s kind of the journey we’re on now. the survivors and caregivers, advocacy is so important to California or even the state. Building the Stroke Onward Foundation Bill Gasiamis (52:05)Yeah, advocacy is very important ⁓ and I love that I Love that you become an advocate and then you find your purpose and your meaning you don’t set out to Find your purpose and your meaning and then think what should I do to find my purpose of my meaning it tends to catch Catch go around the other way. I’m gonna go and help other people and then all of a sudden it’s like, ⁓ this is really meaningful I’m enjoying doing this and raising awareness about that condition that we’ve experienced and the challenges that we are facing. And wow, why don’t we make a change on a as big a scale as possible? Why don’t we try to influence the system to take a different approach because it’s maybe missing something that we see because we’re in a different, we have a different perspective than the people who are providing the healthcare, even though they’ve got a very big kind of, you know, their purpose is to help people as well. their perspective comes from a different angle and lived experience, I think is tremendously important and ⁓ missed and it’s a big missed opportunity if ⁓ lived experience is not part of that defining of how to offer services to people experiencing or recovering a stroke or how to support people after they’ve experienced or recovering from a stroke. ⁓ I love that. So that led you guys to develop the foundation, stroke onward. it a foundation? it a, tell us a little bit about stroke onward. Debra and Steve (53:42)In US jargon, we’d call it a nonprofit. Generally, foundations are entities that have a big endowment and give money away. We wish we had a big endowment, but we don’t. We need to find people who want to support our work and make donations to our nonprofit. And yeah, we now have a small team. ⁓ Deb and I given our age, given that we’re grandparents, we were hoping not to be 24 sevens. So needed people who were good at building nonprofits who were a little earlier in their careers. And we’ve got a small team, a CEO, a program manager and a couple of part-time people ⁓ who are running a bunch of programs. We’re trying to stay focused. We’re trying to build community with stroke survivors, care partners, medical professionals. We’ve got an online community called the Stroke Onward Community Circle that we just launched earlier this year. We’re hosting events, ⁓ some in medical settings that we call Stroke Care Onward to really talk with both ⁓ a diverse group of medical professionals, as well as survivors and care partners about what’s missing in the system and how it can be improved. ⁓ And then a program that we call the Stroke Monologues, which is sort of a a TEDx for stroke survivors where survivors, care partners, medical professionals can really tell their story of the emotional journey in recovery. And we want to use all of that to sort of build a platform to drive system change. That’s kind of what we’re trying to build with Stroke Onward. Bill Gasiamis (55:32)I love that. I love that TEDx component of it. ⁓ People actually get to talk about it and put out stories and content in that way as well. Debra and Steve (55:35)Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Denver, Pittsburgh, ⁓ Boston, and Oakland and San Francisco. We’ve now done six shows of the stroke monologues and a big part about our work in the coming year. is really trying to think about how that might scale. can we, you know, it’s a very time consuming and therefore expensive to host events all the time. So how we can work with other organizations and leverage the idea ⁓ so that more people can get on stage and tell their story. ⁓ Also how we capture those stories on video and how we can do it virtually. So that’s a big part of what the team is thinking about is, you know, how do we Cause you know, at the end of the day, we can only do as much as we can raise the money to hire the people to do. So, that, that developing a strategy that hopefully can scale and track the resources that it takes to make more impact. That’s kind of job one for 2026. Bill Gasiamis (57:05)Yeah, I love it. Lucky you haven’t got enough jobs. That’s a good job to have though, right? ⁓ So if you were sitting, if you guys were both sitting with a couple just beginning this journey, what would you want them to know? What’s the first thing that you would want them to know? Debra Meyerson – Advice for New Stroke Survivors Debra and Steve (57:12)Yeah. Don’t have a stroke. Bill Gasiamis (57:28)Profound. Debra and Steve (57:29)Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, it’s a journey and think of it as a journey and try to get as much as much of your capabilities back as you can. But don’t think of recovery as just that. It’s a much broader journey than that. It’s rebuilding identity. It’s finding ways to adapt. to do the things you love to do, to do the things that bring you meaning and purpose and create that journey for yourself. Nobody else’s journey is gonna be the right model for yours. So give yourself the time, space, learn from others, but learn from what’s in your heart as to the life you wanna build with the cards you’ve been dealt. Bill Gasiamis (58:25)Yeah. What are some of the practices or habits that have helped you guys as a couple, as partners stay connected? Debra and Steve (58:34)⁓ It’s, it’s hard. mean, and we’ve gone through phases, ⁓ where I think, you know, in some ways early on after the stroke, we may have been as close or closer than we’ve ever been. as Deb got better ironically and wanted to do more. Bill Gasiamis (58:39)You Debra and Steve (59:01)that created a different kind of stress for us. ⁓ stress is the key. No, stress is not the beauty. I had so much stress. Yeah. And sometimes I say stress is a function of the gap between aspiration and capability and while Deb’s capabilities keep growing, I think maybe her aspirations grow faster. And the question then says, how do you fill that gap? And so I think Deb struggles with that. And then for me, a big struggle is, so how much do I change my life to support Deb in filling that gap versus the things I might want to do that I still can do? So. You know, when Deb decided to write a book, I really wasn’t willing to give up my other nonprofit career, which was very meaningful to me. And I felt like I was midstream, but we had to find other ways in addition to my help nights and weekends to get Deb help so she could write the book she wanted to write. Whereas when the book came out and we decided to create Stroke Onward, that was a different point in time. And I was sort of willing to. cut back from that career to come build something with Deb. So I think again, we hate to give advice because everybody’s journey is different, but things change and go with that change. Don’t get locked into a view of what the balance in relationship should be. Recognize that that’s gonna be a never ending process of creating and recreating and recreating a balance that works for both of us. Bill Gasiamis (1:01:04)Hmm. What’s interesting. Some of the things that I’ve gone through with my wife is that I’ve kind of understood that she can’t be all things that I needed to be for me. And I can’t be all things that she needs me to be for her. And we need to seek that things where we lack the ability to deal to provide those things for the other person. The other person needs to find a way to accomplish those tasks needs, have those needs met, whatever with in some other way. for example, my whole thing was feeling sad and I needed someone to talk me through it and my wife wasn’t skilled enough to talk me through it, well, it would be necessary for me to seek that support from somebody else, a counselor, a coach, whomever, rather than trying to get blood out of a stone, somebody who doesn’t have the capability to support me in that way. Why would I expect that person to… all of a sudden step up while they’re doing all these other things to get through the difficult time that we were going on to that we’re dealing with. So that was kind of my learning. was like, I can’t expect my wife to be everything I need from her. There’ll be other people who can do that. Who are they? And that’s why the podcast happened because I’ve been talking about this since 2012 and since 2012 and ⁓ well, yeah, that’s 2012 as well. 2012 anyhow. ⁓ I’ve been talking about it since. Debra and Steve (1:02:41)You’re both our roles. You’re saying it and then correcting yourself. Bill Gasiamis (1:02:45)Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a part of me that corrects me as I go along in life. Yeah. Sometimes I don’t listen to it. ⁓ but today was a good one. The thing about it is I have a need, a deep need to talk about it all the time. That’s why I’ve done nearly 400 episodes and those 400 episodes are therapy sessions. Every time I sit down and have a conversation with somebody and I, and even though my wife has a I, ⁓ masters in psychology. I wouldn’t put her through 400 conversations about my stroke every single day or every second day. You know, it’s not fair because it’s not her role. I, ⁓ I talked to her about the things that we can discuss that are important, for the relationship and for how we go about our business as a couple. But then there’s those other things that. she can’t offer her perspective because only stroke survivors know how to do that. And I would never want her to know how to ⁓ relate to me having had a stroke and having the deficits that I have and how it feels to be in my body. I would never want her to be able to relate to me. So ⁓ it’s, that’s kind of how I see, you know, the couple dynamic has to play out. have to just honor the things that each of us can bring to the table and then go elsewhere to ⁓ have our needs met if there’s needs that are left unmet. Debra and Steve (1:04:23)Yeah. Really. Well, it’s good to know that if this is a ⁓ helpful therapy session for you, you won’t mind if we send you a bill. Yeah. Bill Gasiamis (1:04:32)Yeah. Yeah. Send it along with the book. Just put it in the front cover and then, and then I’ll make a payment. ⁓ Well guys, it’s really lovely to meet you in person and have a conversation with you. Have the opportunity to share your mission as well. Raise awareness about the book, raise awareness about stroke onward. I love your work. ⁓ And I wish you all the best with all of your endeavors, personal, professional, not for profit. And yeah, I just love the way that this is another example of how you can respond to stroke as individuals and then also as a couple. Debra and Steve (1:05:18)Yeah, thank you. Well, and we hope you’ll join our online community and that includes the opportunity to do live events. yes. And maybe there are some additional therapy sessions. Yes. On our platform and chat with people and well, all over the place. So yeah, please join us. Bill Gasiamis (1:05:43)That sounds like a plan. Well, that’s a wrap on my conversation with Deborah and Steve. If Deborah’s slow fall off a cliff description resonated with you, leave a comment and tell me what part of your recovery has been the hardest to explain to other people. And if you’re a care partner, I’d love to hear what you needed most early on. You’ll find the links to Deborah and Steve’s work, their book, identity theft and their nonprofit stroke onward in the show notes. And if you’d like to go deeper with me, grab my book, The Unexpected Way That a Stroke Became the Best Thing That Happened via recoveryafterstroke.com/book. Also, you can support the podcast on Patreon by going to patreon.com/recoveryafterstroke. Thank you for being here. And remember, you’re not alone in this journey. 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