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Today's returning guest is Jerry Parker, CEO of Chesapeake Holding Company. Jerry began his career in 1983 when he was accepted into Richard Dennis' Turtle Program. In today's episode, Meb & Jerry discuss the launch of their new ETF, the Cambria Chesapeake Pure Trend ETF (MFUT). They delve into the fund, which uses a systematic trend following strategy across stocks, bonds, currencies, and commodities. Jerry covers the key principles of trend following, the importance of capturing big trends, and the benefit of trend following in a portfolio. (0:26) Welcome to our guest, Jerry Parker (0:42) The Cambria Chesapeake Pure Trend ETF (10:10) The various assets the fund trades (13:09) The benefit of short positions (19:08) Trend following principles (22:08) The importance of following rules and hunting outliers (33:16) How trend following fits in a portfolio (43:00) Excitement about ETFs and the future of managed futures ----- Follow Meb on Twitter, LinkedIn and YouTube For detailed show notes, click here To learn more about our funds and follow us, subscribe to our mailing list or visit us at cambriainvestments.com ----- Sponsor: Today's episode is sponsored by The Idea Farm. The Idea Farm gives you access to over $100,000 worth of investing research, the kind usually read by only the world's largest institutions, funds, and money managers. Subscribe for free here. Follow The Idea Farm: Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram | Tik Tok ----- Interested in sponsoring the show? Email us at Feedback@TheMebFaberShow.com ----- Past guests include Ed Thorp, Richard Thaler, Jeremy Grantham, Joel Greenblatt, Campbell Harvey, Ivy Zelman, Kathryn Kaminski, Jason Calacanis, Whitney Baker, Aswath Damodaran, Howard Marks, Tom Barton, and many more. ----- Meb's invested in some awesome startups that have passed along discounts to our listeners. Check them out here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Recorded: 12 Dec 2023 In this episode of the Algorithmic Advantage podcast, we chat with our friend, legend ‘original turtle trader', Jerry Parker. The discussion traverses Jerry's remarkable journey, beginning with his foundational experiences in the renowned Turtle Program, where he gained invaluable knowledge in trend following and risk management under the guidance of expert mentors. Jerry shares his transition from learner to leader as he recounts the challenges and triumphs of starting his own fund, Chesapeake, highlighting the importance of adapting trading strategies, managing investor expectations, and the crucial interplay of trading skills with essential business acumen. The conversation then shifts to explore the evolution of Jerry's trading methodologies. He talks about his team's relentless pursuit of refining their trend-following strategies, incorporating a wider array of markets, and experimenting with innovative approaches like trend-following spreads. Jerry's commitment to the core principles of trend following, balanced with a willingness to embrace new market opportunities, is a recurring theme. He also candidly addresses the psychological aspects of trading, emphasizing the mental resilience required to navigate market pressures and maintain unwavering faith in one's system. Throughout the episode, Jerry's insights offer a deep dive into the complexities and nuances of professional trading, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the art and science of market trends.
Join us as we sit down with Brian Proctor, Managing Director at EMC Capital Advisors, for an insightful conversation on the evolution of their trading methodology since the early days of the Turtle Program. Discover what sets them apart from competitors and the key factors they believe contribute to a successful CTA. Explore their use of algorithms to balance risk in a volatile market and how trading systems can adapt while staying true to their origins. Gain insights into their approach to managing current market volatility, distinguishing between trend following and momentum, building reliable systems, expanding their market portfolio, and much more. Don't miss this engaging discussion!-----EXCEPTIONAL RESOURCE: Find Out How to Build a Safer & Better Performing Portfolio using this FREE NEW Portfolio Builder Tool-----ATTENTION TTU TRIBE : SIGN-UP for Rick Rule's Symposium: Once in a life-time natural resource insights from the BEST investors in the world via a first-class livestream or Live event!Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT's TRUE ? – most CIO's read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “The Many Flavors of Trend Following” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Alan on Twitter.Learn more about EMC Capital Advisors.Episode Timestamps:02:19 - Introduction to EMC Capital Advisors07:30 - Their investment philosophy10:30 - What differentiates them from their peers?12:33 - The key to succes14:06 - Their approach to open equity17:22 - Staying true to trend following20:13 - Improving the risk adjusted profile23:15 - An evolving system28:19 - Slow or...
Join us this week and know about the specialized investment approach that not only provides investors the opportunity to participate but also to earn gains that aren't possible through traditional portfolio strategies. Our guest for today is Jerry Parker– the founder of Chesapeake Capital Corporation. He began his portfolio management career in 1983 when he was accepted into the Turtle Program, a select investment training program developed by a successful Chicago portfolio manager. He actively monitors and has the potential to invest in over 90 markets worldwide. These can range from tangible assets, such as coffee, crude oil, and gold to global financial instruments, such as German government bonds, U.S. stock indices, and global currencies. Please Enjoy! Would you please consider being 1% and leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/ iTunes if you enjoy the podcast? It takes less than 30 seconds, making a world of difference in reaching new exciting guests! To sign up for Kevin's Podcast email Newsletter and to view the show notes & past guests please visit-https://officialkevindavid.com/podcast Follow Kevin: https://mmini.me/@FollowKD
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A 4th-grade project on Bulga whales left Paul Hillbrand with a lifelong passion for marine animals! He went to college to play soccer, but fell in love with Marine Biology and later ended up in grad school in the BVI’s. Now the Sea Turtle Program Coordinator at the Bald Head Island Conservancy, he’s dedicated his life to sea turtle conservation and research. In this episode of The Occupation Wild Podcast Courtney and Nick sit down with Paul to talk about steps we can all take to help our marine environments, the sacrifices one makes to pursue one’s passions, what it’s like working in the field, and dive deep into the wild and mysterious world of sea turtles! https://www.instagram.com/14pauly/ https://www.instagram.com/bhiconservancy/
Today's guest, Jerry Parker, is the founder of Chesapeake Capital Corporation, a global investment manager that grew to become one of the largest CTAs in the United States at its peak AUM of $2.5 billion. However, Jerry is actually more famous for his career’s earlier days, when he was accepted into the Turtle Program in 1983, a select investment training program developed by a legendary Chicago portfolio manager, Richard Dennis. Under Dennis’s guidance, Jerry traded proprietary capital for 5 years and was often regarded as one of the best performing student to graduate from Richard’s Turtle Program.
It’s not often you get to sit down with a Turtle, let alone the father of the Turtle Experiment, and when I do I find it fascinating learning about the different experiences and outcomes that emerged from what really can be boiled down to 2 to 3 weeks of training in how to use trading rules to make money in the markets. What was truly unique about the conversation I want to share a few key takeaways from today, is that Richard Dennis was joined by two of his Turtles, namely Jerry Parker and Brian Proctor, where they shared some of their personal impressions from their time together…things that has not really ever been discussed publically. We even discussed their research in to “counter-trend” models…not something you would think the Turtles would spend time on…and of course just having Richard Dennis share his wisdom was huge. If you want to catch the full conversation then just click here Turtle Takeaways Niels: Brian and Jerry, what are the key takeaways from the whole Turtle experience when you think back on those years? Jerry: Hmmm, the takeaways? I think I learned a lot and it was just a magical time. Those were four great years. I had no expectation of future business. I think we all would have been incredibly happy to continue managing money for Rich for the rest of our lives and that would have been a good idea. "...is proper trading a real business?" I think that some of the other guys that we competed against at other CTAs, in my opinion, probably did not have nearly the training and support that we had and yet they have large businesses. A lot of these guys went out together and worked together so I think that was maybe an opportunity that we missed - most of us going out on our own. So I really wish, in some kind of crazy way, that we had the best training, the best experience, the best four years that anyone could ever hope for, but I don't know that I personally... I went to a good business school, even though it doesn't really look like it. Maybe part of my problem was that... I suggested a question for Rich because I've asked this question many times to myself (maybe it's a bad question) but, is proper trading a real business? To some degree, I've tried to trade properly and not pay attention to clients as much as maybe I should have and not vol targeted and not taken profits and not made it a better experience. I think to some degree that was one of the Turtle characteristics that clients and others are going to lead you down the bad path so stick with your system. Stick with what you believe to be true, but maybe a little more compromise would have made me have a larger business. Niels: Hmmm, yeah. What about you, Brian? Brian: I would say that the most important concepts and things that always resonated with me were that you just have to have really strict risk management, don't overtrade, take lots of losing trades, don't get out of your winning trades until the trend is confirmed that it's over. I think risk management was rule/key concept number one. Then, concept number two was: keep looking at new systems, blending different values together, different timeframes, to see if you can come up with something better than you already have. So, we've invested a lot of money in our research infrastructure, and we're always searching for the next best, great systems. I think those were the two concepts that I took away from the Turtle program were system development and risk management. Niels: Now, just going back to you, Rich. I can imagine you telling Jerry and Brian and all the other Turtles, "Trade small, follow the system, do the hard thing, do the right thing, and innovate and so on." What if you were to teach a Turtle Program today, would you teach them the same thing or is there anything different to what you would teach them in 2017? Richard: Well, I wouldn't teach the same thing and, to tell you the truth, I don't know exactly what I would teach because...
Today I would like to share some really great and unique takeaways from a conversation I had with the one and only Richard Dennis, the father of the Turtle Project from back in the 1980’s as well as two of his turtles, namely Brian Proctor and Jerry Parker. In our conversation we put the record straight for the first time on a number of myths about the Turtle experiment including How the Turtles got their name, and if the original rules that were applied with great success 30+ years ago would still be relevant today, and also how long it took Jerry and Brian to make sense of them. So let’s get straight to it, starting off with the very beginning of The Turtle story. If you want to catch the full episode then just go click here How The Turtle Got It's Name Niels: Now there has, over the last three decades, been so much talk about how this trading experiment was named: what the inspiration for the Turtle name really was. Some people say that it was related to you seeing a turtle farm in Singapore I think I heard, and another story I heard was it was related to a rock band called The Turtles that performed back then. Why don't you put us all out of suspense and share with us the true story about how the name came about. "...you're going to get a "Heavens NO!" on that one" Richard: I'm going to stick with the first story about the turtles in Singapore. That actually, that's how they got the name, it was kind of a misnomer but it sort of stuck. If I had a dollar for every plastic turtle that people have given me, I'd be indeed rich. Niels: But also, talking about the name itself, and I wonder whether seeing the turtles in Singapore or something that happened years before you did the program, but I also wanted to talk about the inspiration for the idea behind creating the Turtle Program. Again, we hear so many stories relating to, one that seems to be very popular is that you and your partner back then, Bill Eckhardt, having seen the movie Trading Places with Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy, where there was a bet made about how you could train anyone to be successful in trading. Richard: That you're going to get a "Heavens NO!" on that one. Niels: Oh well good! Excellent, excellent! Well, can you share with us how the whole idea behind the Turtle Program came about? Richard: Sure, so one lazy Sunday afternoon I was hanging out with Johnny Walker Black, and I started to think about my own trading and realized that a lot of it was just sort of rules that were informal and that I noticed that other traders operated according to rules. Also, some of those rules were very bad, like a lot of traders at that time, their one rule was always buy soy beans. Having thought about my trading and the rules, it seemed to me that, at that time, just to put a number on it, I thought that two-thirds of trading was following rules and maybe one-third was intuition - the dreaded flare that we talked about during the course and that. So, as the ice cubes melted, I started to make some notes about what I thought was true; what you could do to prove it. It could turn out to be one of those endless debates that never comes to any conclusion. It seemed to me that we could resolve the question by trying to train people and giving them rules and talking to them about intuition and things like that, and that was the genesis. And nobody told me it was a great idea, but nobody wanted to tell me it was stupid either, so we did it Niels: Sure, sure. How long before the actual program started? Was this something that you reacted on very quickly and said, "Yeah, this is a great idea, let me do it." Or did it have to sink in for a while before you created the program? Richard: It was only a couple of months before we put the things in motion, like advertisements in newspapers, that lead to starting in January of '84. So, not such a long period of time after I thought of it. Niels: Fantastic!
Michael releases another mega episode with three trend following traders: Chris Cruden, Salem Abraham and Brian Proctor. Chris Cruden has been in the trend following space for over 25 years. In 1988 he became a Director of Adam, Harding and Lueck Asset Management Ltd (AHL) in London, a famed trend following shop. He is currently the head of Insch Capital Management. Salem Abraham is the President of Abraham Trading Company with a 27-year track record (with much trend following success). Over the years, Abraham has been kind enough to offer Covel fantastic insights. Abraham also appeared in Covel’s film, Broke, and is the last chapter of The Complete TurtleTrader. Brian Proctor is an original TurtleTrader trained by Richard Dennis and Bill Eckhardt and today is a Managing Director at EMC Capital. He began his futures career in 1982, with experience at both the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and Chicago Board of Trade. Proctor was a participant in the renowned Turtle Program, and managed all trading operations at C&D Commodities through 2000. In this episode of Trend Following Radio: Price action Trading only currency Benchmark and time period selection Don’t force the system If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it Markets teach humility Swiss Franc and Crude Oil Asian economics Location independence The Turtle program Diversification Black Swans
My guest today is Brian Proctor, an original TurtleTrader trained by Richard Dennis and Bill Eckhardt and today is a Managing Director at EMC Capital. He began his futures career in 1982, with experience at both the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and Chicago Board of Trade. Proctor was a participant in the renowned Turtle Program, and managed all trading operations at C&D Commodities through 2000. The topic is Trend Following. In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss: Proctor's first trading moments and the Turtle program Proctor's view on Liz Cheval, what she brought to his firm, and why she's still an integral part of EMC today How trend following strategies have continued to excel over the years Diversification and the Swiss franc Black swans and how the impossible can and does happen Bill Eckhardt's influence Jump in! --- I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show. To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/ You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/ Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!
Michael Covel speaks with Brian Proctor on today’s podcast. Proctor is an original TurtleTrader trained by Richard Dennis and Bill Eckhardt and today is a Managing Director at EMC Capital. He began his futures career in 1982, with experience at both the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and Chicago Board of Trade. Proctor was a participant in the renowned Turtle Program, and managed all trading operations at C&D Commodities through 2000. Covel and Proctor discuss Proctor’s first trading moments and the Turtle program; Proctor’s view on Liz Cheval, what she brought to his firm, and why she’s still an integral part of EMC today; how trend following strategies have continued to excel over the years; diversification and the Swiss franc; black swans and how the impossible can and does happen; and Bill Eckhardt’s influence. For more information on Brian Proctor, visit emccta.com. Want a free trend following DVD? Go to trendfollowing.com/win.
My guest today is Jerry Parker. In 1983, Parker was accepted into the Turtle Program, a select investment training program developed by successful Chicago portfolio manager Richard Dennis. He appears in Covel's "The Complete TurtleTrader" and has been the most successful TurtleTrader. Parker founded Chesapeake Capital Corporation, a global investment manager headquartered in Richmond, Virginia, in 1988. The topic is Trend Following. In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss: Mistake of combining different strategies with trend following, and the importance of having a concentrated strategy that you can rely on How discretionary moves can get in the way of your system, and "systematized discretion" The psychological effect of following a trend following strategy for decades The idea of going for positive expected value over what's least risky Why Parker doesn't like to use the term "managed futures", and why it doesn't really tell the story of trend followers Trend followers performing well at different points in time compared to long-only Using trend following as another strategy for investors who only invest through a long-only value-based system The importance of not letting your views on politics and society influence your trading, and maintaining a systematic and disciplined approach The growth of news media since 1984, information overflow, limiting your variables, and using price as your primary indicator How Parker has learned over the years to deal with drawdowns, loving your losses, and the importance the Turtle program played in his education on drawdowns Why governments are the ultimate counter-trend traders Why buy and hold is not a good place to be even if people are saying it's turned around Parker's stock-only trend following program, and why the diversified program will do better than the stock-only system Leverage as a tool Jump in! --- I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show. To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/ You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/ Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!
Michael Covel interviews trader and original student of the first Turtle class, Jerry Parker. In 1983, Parker was accepted into the Turtle Program, a select investment training program developed by successful Chicago portfolio manager Richard Dennis. He appears in Covel's "The Complete TurtleTrader" and has been the most successful TurtleTrader. Parker founded Chesapeake Capital Corporation, a global investment manager headquartered in Richmond, Virginia, in 1988. Chesapeake provides investment and portfolio management services to both private and institutional investors worldwide. Covel talks to Parker about the mistake of combining different strategies with trend following, and the importance of having a concentrated strategy that you can rely on; how discretionary moves can get in the way of your system, and "systematized discretion"; the psychological effect of following a trend following strategy for decades; the idea of going for positive expected value over what's least risky; why Parker doesn't like to use the term "managed futures", and why it doesn't really tell the story of trend followers; trend followers performing well at different points in time compared to long-only; using trend following as another strategy for investors who only invest through a long-only value-based system; the importance of not letting your views on politics and society influence your trading, and maintaining a systematic and disciplined approach; the growth of news media since 1984, information overflow, limiting your variables, and using price as your primary indicator; how Parker has learned over the years to deal with drawdowns, loving your losses, and the importance the Turtle program played in his education on drawdowns; why governments are the ultimate counter-trend traders; why buy and hold is not a good place to be even if people are saying it's turned around; Parker's stock-only trend following program, and why the diversified program will do better than the stock-only system; and leverage as a tool. Enjoy! Free DVD: www.trendfollowing.com/win.