Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way

Reflection on Non-Judgment: The conversation shifted to a check-in on the previous week's practice of not judging, which was generally positive, prompting Soo Kim to ask for clarification on the difference between judgment and discernment. Jevon Perra initially requested a pause for the conversation to organize, noting Denise Darlene's quick start, but the discussion soon moved forward, focusing on these key spiritual concepts.Distinction Between Judgment and Discernment: Denise Darlene proposed that discernment and wisdom are the same, suggesting that judgment stems from fear and lacks peace, often involving labels and coming from the ego. Wisdom and discernment, conversely, come from love and result in peace. Jevon Perra cautioned that a form of discernment could still be rooted in fear, using the concept to create separation or a feeling of superiority.Peace as an Indicator for Wisdom: Denise Darlene maintained that if guidance is coming from a place of peace, it is wisdom guided by the Holy Spirit, which is a core concept in the Course in Miracles. Jevon Perra agreed that the presence of peace, love, and joy serves as an indicator of alignment, while experiences outside of peace, such as anger or frustration, signal alignment with the ego. Jevon Perra shared a personal anecdote of growing up in a religious family that misused "discernment" to enforce fear, highlighting that the resulting lack of peace was a clear sign they needed to leave the environment, demonstrating true discernment.Discussion on the Show Quantum Leap: Jevon Perra used the plot of the television show Quantum Leap as a metaphor for consciousness and purpose, where the character Sam Beckett leaps into different bodies to accomplish missions they do not remember. Brian Genovese, who loves the show, clarified that the mission is to set right what once went wrong, and once accomplished, the character leaps to the next adventure. Jevon Perra connected the show's themes to the idea that we are consciousness having an experience, which Brian Genovese agreed is a much deeper concept than people realize.Peace as a Guide and Awareness of Attachment: Denise Darlene restated the initial card's message that truth will correct all errors and that peace is the guide indicating alignment with the Holy Spirit. Jevon Perra noted that they can quickly tell when they are not in peace, which is always due to some attachment or idea of separation they are unwilling to let go of. They affirmed that the work involves bringing in and finding the truth to create the experience of peace.Clarification of "Truth": Soo Kim challenged the phrase "self-truth," suggesting that the focus should be on capital "T" Truth, representing non-duality, oneness, and unity, which is the voice of the Holy Spirit. Denise Darlene agreed that this pursuit of Truth often feels like death or betrayal, but confirms that this feeling is an indication they are on the right track.Reading from Manual for Teachers on Gentleness: The group decided to continue reading the "Manual for Teachers" from the Course in Miracles, focusing on the section "Gentleness". Soo Kim read that harm is impossible for God's teachers because it is the outcome of judgment and the denial of learning, making the Holy Spirit's lessons impossible to learn. Jevon Perra related the concept to a play, suggesting that consciousness is neither the hero nor the villain, and that believing in harming or saving is an attachment.The Strength of Gentleness: Soo Kim continued the reading, emphasizing that God's teachers are wholly gentle because gentleness is the strength needed for salvation to become easy. Jevon Perra described gentleness through the analogy of kindly waking a child from a nightmare, where the gentle voice of the Holy Spirit calls them out of the illusion. Jevon Perra offered a personal example of practicing gentleness in a relationship through non-resistance, which involved maintaining a state of "No, honey, it's okay" to diffuse conflict.Gentleness, Non-Resistance, and the Pain Body: Brian Genovese affirmed that Jevon Perra's non-resistance was successful because it denied the other person's ego the energy it sought to feed its "pain body," a concept also discussed by Eckhart Tolle. Denise Darlene added that kindness, not judgment or punishment, is what leads to repentance, echoing Christian scripture and the power of non-resistance in situations of conflict. Denise Darlene recounted an experience with their critical mother, noting that quiet non-engagement eventually exhausts the criticism, making them a less favorable person to complain to.The Choice Between Separation and Christ's Vision: Jevon Perra summarized the two ways of seeing the world: the world of separation, sin, and guilt (ego's perception), and Christ's vision (heaven on earth), which sees abundance, connection, and love. Jevon Perra stated that one cannot hold both visions simultaneously and that giving up the "games" of separation is necessary to see the wholeness that is already present. Denise Darlene emphasized that the difficult work of letting go of these egoic games is the difference between awakening and staying asleep, which involves the critical step of disciplining the mind to replace lies with truth.The Journey of Awakening and the "Happier Dream": Jevon Perra questioned the duration required for awareness, referencing a quote from I Am That that enlightenment could be instant upon belief. Denise Darlene shared their current status as having achieved a "happier dream" but not yet fully embodying the truth, acknowledging that they are closer than ever. Denise Darlene cautioned against the "holy instant system" without prior ego dismantling, noting that their son's experience of God's presence resulted in a painful psychosis upon returning to the body, necessitating a subsequent learning path.Experiences as Lessons and the Use of Medicine Journeys: The group discussed the idea that experiences labeled as "bad" are often lessons chosen by a greater part of the self. Jevon Perra expanded this to include anything that is resisted, including medicine journeys if used as escapism. Denise Darlene noted that their experience with medicine journeys has been for self-discovery—revealing subconscious beliefs and traumas—not for escape, and that post-journey work is still required for change. Soo Kim acknowledged that while medicine is intended for this deep work, some people use it to reinforce delusions or escape pain.Reincarnation and the Goal of the Course in Miracles: Denise Darlene inquired if the Course in Miracles discusses reincarnation, to which Jevon Perra replied that its premise is to "save time," implying the avoidance of doing the cycle of life again and again. The discussion touched upon the concept of the individual spirit returning to God like a wave merging back into the ocean, challenging the notion of maintaining individuality after death. Soo Kim noted that the concept of reincarnation is sometimes twisted in cultures like India to justify judgment or social hierarchy, calling others "stupid" due to perceived past lives.The Afterlife and Frequency of Vibration: The conversation turned to the nature of individuality after death and the "great reset button" that death provides. Jevon Perra recommended the near-death experience book Backwards by Nancy Danison, explaining that the afterlife location is determined by one's current vibrational frequency and that the choice to hold onto a low frequency can result in hellish experiences. Jevon Perra explained that one's body is a filter that lowers frequency, and after death, the frequency raises, allowing for experiences of what is called heaven, though perception can still be filtered by egoic beliefs.Conclusion on Gentleness and Non-Judgment: Denise Darlene reiterated a key takeaway from the reading: "harm is the outcome of judgment," meaning that taking offense stems from a judgment of the situation, not the neutral facts of what happened. The solution involves replacing judgment with compassion, seeing others' challenging behavior as the limited maturity of a wounded child. Jevon Perra shared a practical application of this, noting that viewing their mother as an "insane" or "crazy lady" they could help, rather than as an entitled person taking advantage of them, made the interaction bearable.Reflecting on Kindness and Empathy: Jevon Perra shared a story from their childhood about an accidental encounter at Disneyland where an adult's anger instantly turned to empathy and service upon seeing them in a wheelchair, illustrating how perception immediately shifts based on the recognized state of the other. The group affirmed the power of recognizing that others are often in a "mental wheelchair".Final Thoughts and Self-Inquiry: Denise Darlene concluded with the initial affirmation that when not experiencing peace, they are experiencing the effects of a lie, encouraging self-inquiry to discover the underlying lie or judgment. Soo Kim asked if their previous challenge to Brian Genovese about "self-truth" was a violation of gentleness, but Brian Genovese clarified that it was helpful for clarification and not perceived as judgmental. Jevon Perra ended the session by stating that they are always revealing their judgments or their love and acceptance.

Starting the Manual for Teachers Reading: Jevon Perra and Denise Darlene discussed how the lessons and teachings from the course can seep in over time without systematic study. Jevon Perra announced they would be reading "Tolerance," the third characteristic of God's teachers, starting on page 12 of the Manual for Teachers.Reading and Discussion on Tolerance and Judgment: Jevon Perra read that God's teachers do not judge, as judgment implies a lack of trust and self-deception. Jevon Perra observed that judgment assumes a position one does not have and that without judgment, all things are equally acceptable. Jevon Perra connected the deception to separation and the "zero sum game" mentality, where their gain means someone else's loss.Judgment and Ego Control: Denise Darlene proposed that judgment is a form of control by the ego, which seeks safety by determining if something is good or bad. Denise Darlene emphasized that everything is neutral and that judging separates one from their "best interest," citing the card, "I do not perceive my own best interest". Brian Genovese connected judging to concepts of good and evil, noting their sensitivity to bullying and instinct to fight injustice.Neutrality and Best Interests: Denise Darlene asked Brian Genovese to consider if the act of bullying could be a neutral event that ultimately provides a gift for the person being bullied. Brian Genovese acknowledged that their experience of being bullied gave them empathy, suggesting the event, while difficult at the time, resulted in a valuable lesson. Denise Darlene concluded that if they do not know their own best interest, they cannot possibly know someone else's best interest, suggesting that intervening in harm should be done without hatred or fear.The Gift of Reality and Trust in the Creator: Jevon Perra suggested that preference is similar to judging, as it separates one from the "gift of reality". Jevon Perra discussed that every experience is potentially a gift and a teaching from the creator, even the "bad ones," which were chosen in an ultimate sense. The discussion shifted to the concept of resting in God, which Jevon Perra stated is their daily reminder.Suffering and The Character: Jevon Perra reflected on how the ego can cause suffering and separation from contentment regardless of what the "character" is doing, such as when they are too frustrated or lost in the character. Jevon Perra brought up the concept of fighting for what one wants "like you're right, but listen like you're wrong," suggesting a lack of attachment to the outcome. Jevon Perra used the example of their spouse, Carolyn, getting upset during games like Monopoly or Catan, demonstrating the pain of attachment to winning.Lowering Expectations: Denise Darlene related the concept of non-attachment to lowering expectations, noting that one's response to events reveals if they have expectations. Denise Darlene described practicing non-attachment, particularly when ordering food or traveling with their spouse, Joe, by holding their day loosely and using the Course in Miracles prayer: "What would you have me do? Where would you have me go? What would you have me say? And to whom?".Enneagram and Attachment: Denise Darlene brought up their son, Charlie, who is an Enneagram Seven, noting that Sevens constantly plan for an "amazing, incredible experience" and therefore live with tremendous disappointment because life is not Disneyland every day. Jevon Perra shared a story where Charlie cried hysterically because they were going to Starbucks for treats instead of Dunkin' Donuts, illustrating Charlie's attachment to a specific outcome.Applying Non-Attachment to Daily Life: Jevon Perra observed that not everyone has the luxury of being contemplative, but they can still apply the principles of non-attachment and curiosity in a 9-to-5 job by trusting God in all outcomes. Denise Darlene affirmed this, stating one can have a checklist but needs to hold it loosely, using their son Jonathan's house remodeling project as an example of having to continually adapt to unexpected challenges and interruptions.Idols and Undivided Devotion: Denise Darlene used Jevon Perra's anxiety about Carolyn not being "okay" to point out that they had placed Carolyn on a throne as an idol, suggesting they were relating to them as God. Denise Darlene explained that God desires undivided devotion and recognition, stating that the "many gods" or idols we create "wreck our life" because we try to serve them. Denise Darlene then read from Neville Goddard's collection on Christian mysticism to define the "Word" as a desire seeking embodiment and the "I am" as the only reality.The Power of "I Am": The reading explained that to realize one's desire, the awareness ("I am") must agree with the desire, which results in the birth of the desired outcome. Denise Darlene concluded that Jevon Perra was trying to borrow peace and worth from Carolyn instead of cultivating it within themself through the truth of the "I am". Brian Genovese shared that they record their "I ams" and play them for themself before bed as a consistent practice to improve awareness.Managing Stress and Finding Resistance: Denise Darlene discussed using visual reminders and making the claim "I am the opposite of that" when a disturbance occurs. Jevon Perra shared that when they carry stress, often related to making money, they find the pain in their body, typically their chest or the back of their head. Jevon Perra noted that during meditation, they can feel the resistance and determine when they have been able to let everything go.The Practice of Releasing Resistance and Embracing Emptiness: Jevon Perra described a personal practice involving stopping, noticing resistance, and reminding themself that "it's okay" to release whatever anxiety or fear is present. They noted that releasing this resistance creates an "emptiness" which, paradoxically, is a "free, content" and "open" feeling where they are complete with the "nothing" that gives rise to everything. The personal struggle is figuring out how to engage in daily life and pursue goals from this free, content place, even though they recognize they could technically maintain the feeling all day long.Seeking the Kingdom of Heaven First: Denise Darlene offered a perspective based on the scripture, "seek first the kingdom of heaven," suggesting that living in a spiritual dimension is counterintuitive to the human experience, which is primarily based on fear and control. They related that the spiritual path demands a shift in priorities, recalling a time when they realized their relationship with their spouse, Joe, had taken precedence over their relationship with God, illustrating that making a person one's "god" could lead to terrible suffering if that person were lost. The emphasis should be on abiding in God first, rather than using God only as a tool when difficulties arise.The Path of Trust and Relinquishing Control: Denise Darlene explained that trust is necessary when pursuing the spiritual path, which often requires confronting situations where it seems "there isn't enough" to encourage faith growth. They noted that people often must reach the end of their own resources before turning to God, likening this to the experience of the prodigal son. Brian Genovese agreed that releasing expectations is crucial to letting things flow, noting that the fight-or-flight instinct is an ingrained human trait that makes it difficult to embrace faith and release control.Mistrust and Misplaced Dependency: Denise Darlene stated that the degree of difficulty in laying down control is proportional to the degree one has made themself God over things like income. They shared a personal experience where they had misplaced trust in their first husband as the "god of the roof over our head," only to realize they did not trust God to be their financial provider until their husband's life was threatened. When they finally asked God for help, their pastor immediately called them to offer $5,000 a month to maintain their lifestyle while their husband was in recovery.The Importance of Speaking and Asking: Brian Genovese affirmed that one must actively put their needs out there and speak them out to God because God does not read minds. They concluded that while help and good things will happen, they rarely occur within the timeframe people desire. Denise Darlene agreed, emphasizing that such occurrences are always at the perfect time and that navigating the path of trust can become a "fun game to play".

Reference Material for the Course: The speakers briefly discussed related literature, with Jevon Perra mentioning Ken Wapnick's commentary as a great resource, identifying them as the original editor. They also agreed that the book The Disappearance of the Universe is an amazing starting point for anyone engaging with the material, as it provides a valuable take on the course's concepts.Transition to the Lesson on Honesty: Jevon Perra introduced the current lesson from the Manual for Teachers, focusing on the topic of honesty, following the previous section on the development of trust. The conversation began with the principle that all other desirable traits rest on trust, allowing one to see the value in honesty.Scarcity and Trust: Jevon Perra related the concept of trust to personal struggles, specifically describing falling into "scarcity death loops" where they feel the need to constantly work and achieve to ensure things will be okay. This activity is viewed as a source of separation and anxiety, which Brian Genovese resonated with, sharing a similar tendency toward self-torture despite achieving success.Honesty as Consistency and Integrity: The speakers defined honesty as consistency, meaning there is no conflict between what one says, thinks, or does, and no word or thought opposes another. Jevon Perra connected this definition to the concept of integrity, using the analogy of structural integrity in construction to illustrate being aligned and capable of handling stress.Integrity in Personal and Business Conduct: The discussion explored how integrity, or internal alignment, could exist even in people who are unpleasant, as illustrated by Brian Genovese's anecdote about their grandfather's practice of expressing negative thoughts to prevent health issues. Jevon Perra extended this idea to business, noting the importance of clear intentions, even when they are exploitative, contrasting this with dishonest business practices like undisclosed loan points.Ethics, Morality, and Non-Dualism: Jevon Perra contrasted ethics and morality—which are defined by rules for being a "good person" that change over time and place—with a non-dual perspective, which posits there is only one game and one player. In this non-dual view, the apparent universe requires roles like "takers" and "givers" for the drama game to exist, chosen by consciousness itself.Honesty with Self and the Illusion of Separation: Jevon Perra returned to the idea of honesty being self-deception, which is the root of conflict and anxiety when one's actions contradict their stated trust in a higher power. The belief in one's separate body and the resultant fear of death or scarcity is what causes suffering, although the true self is eternal.The Mind of God and the "Mad Idea" of Separation: Jevon Perra further detailed the non-dual concept of consciousness projecting the universe as a "step-down" of pure power, allowing for the experience of being a separate person. This separation originated from the "crazy mad idea" in the mind of God about what it would be like to not be one, leading to the projection of guilt, sin, and death.Contentment Through Acceptance and Trust: The final segment focused on achieving contentment by accepting life exactly as it is, trusting that it is what the true self or God desires. Jevon Perra argued that true contentment comes from letting go of striving and desire, which allows one to change the entire world because the world is a projection of the one mind.

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Personal Flow and Attachment Soo Kim expressed a feeling of being on the "verge of something". Jevon Perra commented that Soo Kim was doing great with "not attaching to any outcome and just flowing non-judgmentally," which Jevon Perra admitted they struggle with, though they are aware of their attachments. They agreed that the unawareness of one's "craziness" is what causes trouble.Judgment and Sincerity Jevon Perra stated that they constantly have judgments, including about people who are "happy nice," like their Mormon friends, where they don't perceive sincerity. Soo Kim related to the judgment of insincerity, citing it as a major reason for a "rupture with Leila," because they judged her actions as insincere and fake. Jevon Perra agreed that having the data to be "right about my perceptions" is not the ultimate goal because their perceptions and best-case scenarios do not lead to ultimate happiness or peace.Contentment as the Highest State Jevon Perra asserted that the pursuit of achievement and accomplishment does not bring unending happiness and bliss, noting that past moments of having everything only brought momentary satisfaction. They suggested that the "other game" is to simply be content, which they considered "probably the highest state," because if one is content, their apparent energetic state does not matter as much.Illusion of the Singular Self and Happiness Set Point Soo Kim discussed the "illusion of the singular self," stating that even within a personality construct, there are multiple aspects, and the matter is which one one attaches to. Jevon Perra referenced a psychology book, The How of Happy, which suggests that most of one's happiness is set by genetics and other propensities, but about 30% comes from choices made, specifically one's speech and thoughts.The Meaning of Seriousness When asked where they fall on the happiness scale, Jevon Perra described Soo Kim as a "princess warrior type," serious about what is real and true, which Jevon Perra relates to. Jevon Perra defined being serious as meaning "life and death," explaining that to be serious is to stop playing, believe something will kill you, and stop being loose, unguarded, and oneself. They also related seriousness to suffering, where one stops "trusting God" and takes matters into their own hands, leading to suffering.The Enneagram Type Three Racket Jevon Perra shared that as an Enneagram Type Three, they are a performer who struggles to know what is truly them, losing themselves in their performances because they prioritize achievement. They explained that a "racket" is a game played to hide the "real business," drawing an analogy to a butcher shop fronting an alcohol operation during prohibition. Jevon Perra stated that their current "racket" involves engaging in human suffering to be relatable to others, but they get lost in the pain of the character they are playing.Connection versus Attachment Soo Kim questioned the sincerity of relating to people without "getting sucked in," calling it a form of insincerity and faking. Jevon Perra made a distinction between trying to relate and trying to connect, emphasizing that needing to connect is also an attachment. Jevon Perra described extreme attachment as the "needy" individual whose outward show of love is experienced as taking, not giving, because they are trying to "vampire" or suck life from the other.The Origin of Sincerity Discussing sincerity, Jevon Perra provided the etymology of the word, explaining that it is Latin for "without wax," originating from the practice of repairing broken marble statues with wax and dust. To be sincere means not hiding brokenness or what one does not want others to see; it means being transparent. Jevon Perra contrasted this with insincere interactions, such as someone being overly nice, suggesting that something is being hidden.The Progression of Relationships and Sincerity Jevon Perra discussed that normal human interactions are permission-based, with gradual sharing of more personal or "sketchy" information. They noted that always presenting only the cordial side is insincere, and relationships must progress, or the lack of progression signals an issue. If cracks are not shown willingly, Jevon Perra cautioned that they will be revealed through pressure or conflict, which is hurtful.Childhood Dynamics and Emotional Triggers Soo Kim related Jevon Perra's observations about insincerity to their own experience of being triggered and wanting to tell others how they were not hearing them, which mirrors a childhood dynamic where they learned defense mechanisms like taking things seriously to feel safe. Soo Kim felt their mother needed them to behave a certain way to feel like a "good mom," leading to a dynamic where they felt unable to be themself.The Attachment to Outcomes Jevon Perra shared their current personal lesson, which is the triggering belief that they "have to take care of people," specifically their family. This belief leads to an attachment to assuring outcomes, such as having "enough money" or ensuring their kids are not hurt, which causes incredible unrest and suffering because they try to love and attack their family at the same time by preventing harm. Jevon Perra identified the solution as releasing the attachment to outcomes, which they believe are already set by a script and soul contracts.Contentment through Trust and Release Jevon Perra concluded that the stress of trying to assure outcomes has no bearing on what happens, only providing the experience of suffering instead of contentment. True contentment comes from "trusting God," which means realizing that everything is perception. They explained that every perception creates a separate identity, which is the world of attachment and suffering.Maya and Lowering Consciousness Jevon Perra introduced the concept of "Maya" as the energy of separation that draws consciousness to lower its resonance to operate in the "super low frequency called personality called the body". They observed that the more aware they become, the more painful it is to be "a little bit off," explaining that their awareness makes them suffer more, not because awareness is negative, but because the subtle disturbance is now enough to bother them.The Princess and the Pea Parable Jevon Perra used the fairy tale of "The Princess and the Pea" to illustrate that spiritual growth makes one more sensitive to subtle disturbances, requiring less and less to bother them. They stated that the spiritual game is one of "less and less" and "letting go game, not a grab more game," leading to the realization that one is already content.The Selfish Gain of Sincerity Jevon Perra stated that the "true work" is realizing one is working for themself, as their personality's selfish gains will not bring ultimate contentment or peace. They observed that both the rich and the poor can be happy, and happiness comes from "stopping of the searching".Releasing Fear and Insanity Jevon Perra spoke about their current situation of quitting a job and not having an income, which triggers their fear that their family will "die" and it is their fault. They shared the experience of releasing attachments while on vacation, which instantly brought freedom and contentment to their life. They concluded that their ultimate insanity is thinking they are the body and personality that wants accomplishments, and the greatest enemy to the separate identity is love, because love is "all inclusive and abundant".Managing Seriousness and Awareness Jevon Perra discussed how unaware they are of many things, using the example of their watch light in sleep mode. They asked Soo Kim if their suggestion to "tread lightly" and "be innocent of the danger" was meant to combat an overly serious nature. Soo Kim confirmed that their goal was to combat their "over seriousness".Embracing Goofiness and Non-Attachment Jevon Perra shared that they sometimes go from being overly serious to being "overly goofy," which they find fun and a "light life". They concluded that life is not so serious because "you can't die," and if they lose their accomplishments, they asserted, "I'm not my accomplishments".

Manual for Teachers in A Course in Miracles. "How is healing accomplished?"Meeting Topic Selection With only kristen and Jevon Perra present at the start of the discussion, they decided to read from the Manual for Teachers in A Course in Miracles. They chose the topic "How is healing accomplished?" after considering other options like "trust". Soo Kim joined the meeting later.The Perceived Purpose of Sickness Jevon Perra introduced the reading on healing, stating that healing requires understanding the illusion of sickness and its perceived purpose. The text suggests that sickness has value to the sufferer, acting as an election and a choice of weakness in the mistaken belief that it provides strength. Jevon Perra explained that sickness confirms the body's reality and the ego's separation ideas, which is considered valuable because the loss of this separate identity feels worse than death, like annihilation.Ego, Separation, and Fear Jevon Perra discussed how the ego values things that confirm the physical world and individual separation as real, using sickness as a confirmation. The focus on the physical world and material needs, such as rent and income, creates fear and anxiety. kristen agreed that fear and anxiety can induce sickness, mentioning their realization that they had been severely stressed out, and reflecting on the difficulty of living in the present rather than worrying about the future.Separation from God and Suffering The reading suggested that sickness symbolizes the "defeat of God's son" and the son's attempt to usurp the Creator's throne, driven by the belief that God is fierce and powerful. Jevon Perra interpreted this within a non-dual perspective, where being a separate entity requires "taking" life from the infinite wholeness of God, which is why separation and sickness are cherished by the ego for survival. This separateness inevitably leads to suffering because of the perception of lack.Personal Struggles with Expectations and Presence kristen related the discussion of separation to their own life, noting the stress of striving for a "perfect marriage" or being a "perfect mom". kristen shared that they often stress about financial future, such as paying rent in six months, instead of being thankful and present with their children. Jevon Perra responded by discussing the idea of watching oneself as a character with a script, suggesting that acceptance of the character's flaws and fears, like feeling worthless without accomplishment, is key to realizing one is not the character but the consciousness enlivening it.The Nature of Drama and Desire Jevon Perra argued that life needs drama, comparing the human experience to an entertaining but challenging show like Yellowstone, which kristen enjoys but does not wish to live. kristen questioned whether thinking about an outcome makes it real. Jevon Perra explained that perception determines reality, which can change in an instant, giving the example of two people having completely different experiences at the same party due to different perceptions.Healing and the Mind's Decision The discussion shifted to the conditions under which healing occurs, stating that it happens when the value placed on sickness is recognized and dismissed. The text emphasized that decisions are made by the mind, not the body, and sickness is a decision or a "faulty problem-solving approach". Jevon Perra elaborated that accepting sickness as a decision of the mind is the basis of healing, noting that the patient's mind, not the personality, is the true physician.Contentment and Non-Attachment to Outcome Jevon Perra posited that people pursue accomplishments (health, wealth, love) in search of happiness and contentment, but the activity of pursuing actually maintains separation from it, as it implies a lack. Contentment comes from releasing the idea of lack. kristen agreed, sharing their relaxed approach to changing careers, prioritizing peace over anxiety. Jevon Perra suggested striving to do things without attachment to the outcome, which makes life a fun game, referencing a non-competitive game they play with their wife.Instincts, Cells, and the One Mind Soo Kim raised a question about instincts and reflexes, which they thought were separate from the mind, as they relate to the body's intelligence. Jevon Perra clarified that, according to non-dual teaching, the source of the universe is the "one mind". They illustrated the concept of the whole organism over the individual part by explaining programmed cell death (apoptosis), comparing cancer to a cell that rejects its duty to die for the sake of the whole, choosing to preserve its own identity instead.Ego and Forgiveness Jevon Perra discussed how the ego can label things as necessary for survival, but none of it is ultimately true. They identified cues for letting go of something as any feeling that is the opposite of love, abundance, or contentment, such as defensiveness, protection, or a feeling of needing to fix a situation. Perra concluded that these negative feelings are a cue to forgive and let it go for personal growth.Meeting Conclusion The meeting concluded with Kristen and Soo Kim thanking Jevon Perra. Kristen mentioned they were going to wake their kids up and make breakfast. Soo Kim and Kristen both wished Jevon Perra a good weekend

Morning Gathering and Spiritual Reading Denise Darlene joined Jevon Perra and later Soo Kim for a morning session. Denise Darlene shared a reading from the deck about being "sustained by the love of God," which she said was chosen randomly. Jevon Perra expressed that the concept of being sustained by God's love was helpful, especially in the context of personal "freaking out about sustenance" due to considering quitting a job to start a new venture (00:00:38).Conflict of Thought Systems Jevon Perra described two conflicting internal conversations: one promoting "massive activity" out of fear of financial doom and the other, which is more aligned with Denise Darlene's teachings, emphasizing sustenance from God's love and the release of attachments to accomplishments. Denise Darlene confirmed that the fearful voice, which Jevon Perra feels is only focused on activity as hope, is the "ego voice," and awareness of this voice is 80% of the work in overcoming such struggles (00:02:01) (00:04:36).Ego and the Fear of Failure Denise Darlene explained that the ego is afraid of failure because it understands its limitations, recounting a personal anecdote from a coaching session where she was told, "Oh, you don't" matter when expressing a fear of not mattering if she did not produce something (00:04:36). She stressed that trying to matter or achieve, driven by ego beliefs, will never work, which Jevon Perra confirmed based on personal "data" that shows they are financially secure yet still driven by the "accomplishment muscle" (00:05:48). Jevon Perra noted that this activity acts as a distraction from the stillness, which feels like "dying" to the ego mechanism (00:07:06).Discipline and Spiritual Perspective Denise Darlene advised Jevon Perra to practice discipline by being still and letting the fearful ego thoughts arise and pass without attaching to them, which she suggests is essential for discovering deeper issues (00:08:35). She stated that Jevon Perra's perspective is flawed by focusing on an amount of money rather than acknowledging oneness with God, reinforcing the spiritual perspective that God is the sole source of supply. Denise Darlene referenced Christian mystic Joel Goldsmith's teaching, which redirects focus from physical senses to spiritual reality, similar to the principle in A Course in Miracles that things do not have the meaning placed upon them by the observer (00:09:41).Oneness with God and Non-Doing Denise Darlene emphasized that the spiritual filter of "oneness with God" means "all that God is and all that God has is already present," and Jesus taught to "seek ye first the kingdom of heaven within," implying taking no thought for material needs. Jevon Perra likened their addiction to accomplishment to an addiction to food, where they continue the activity they know instigates suffering while attempting to release the attachment to it (00:12:24). Denise Darlene clarified that one is "inspired to do things" but is "not the doer," suggesting the distinction lies in the motivator: ego-driven action for external validation versus altruistic action as an act of love with no attachment (00:13:48).Grace and Allowing the Ego to Collapse Denise Darlene framed personal success around "grace," stating that one should not take credit for successes or failures because "God is doing everything" (00:16:53) (00:20:39). Jevon Perra agreed that the feeling of doing, even making a mistake, is often the ego jumping in after the fact (00:22:03). Denise Darlene encouraged Jevon Perra to allow the full "collapse" and "death" of the ego structure, which is necessary for freedom, noting that it can happen in a "holy instant" or through struggle, but requires a "tiny bit of willingness" (00:23:40).The Question of Willingness Soo Kim expressed difficulty in differentiating between ego-driven effort and genuine spiritual surrender, questioning if their willingness to see things differently might be a form of "spiritual bypassing". Denise Darlene stated that the question of genuine willingness can only be answered by the individual and challenged the participants on whether they are willing to let their "entire ego structure die," addressing the ego's powerful fear of physical death associated with this surrender (00:25:02) (00:27:55). Soo Kim admitted an unwillingness to allow themselves or their families to be homeless, while Denise Darlene countered by citing the examples of influential devotees who took vows of poverty, emphasizing that true faith requires the willingness to "let it all go" (00:30:47) (00:33:22).Attachment and Spiritual Practice Jevon Perra shared a story about attachment to an impossible past relationship ruining a current one, relating it to their own internal attachment to accomplishment for "fulfillment, peace, contentment" despite knowing intellectually that these are not achieved through accomplishment (00:33:22) (00:36:01). Denise Darlene read Lesson 109 from A Course in Miracles ("I rest in God"), highlighting the power of this thought to bring rest, peace, and stillness amidst the world's turmoil (00:47:04). She suggested the phrase is worthy of a tattoo as a constant reminder (00:50:08).Personal Story of Trust and Provision Denise Darlene shared a personal experience where she believed her first husband, Tim, was the source of income, leading to God allowing that provision structure to collapse in order for her to shift her faith to God as the sole provider (00:40:13). She recounted hitting the floor in hysteria and yelling, "I do not trust you," but was immediately provided for through her pastor (00:41:39). This experience anchored her understanding, leading to a shift where she now accepts pauses in work as time to rest, trusting God's perfect timing and provision (00:44:05).

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What Flavor Ego Are U? #ACIM WrkBook Lesson 35 with Denise DarleneEgo, Fear, and Attack Thoughts Jevon Perra stated that the attack is validated because it's necessary to maintain a separate identity, validating "I am me" and an "outside". Jevon Perra explained that, based on the Course, the only two real experiences are love or fear, and fear is attack-based. Soo Kim agreed that finding differences and separation seems to be an important step in human development.Persona, Authenticity, and Forgiveness Jevon Perra explained that the word "persona" means "mask," suggesting that being a person or human involves wearing a mask, and authenticity is often tied to a person's committed mask. Jevon Perra suggested that if one believes they are their mask, they are authentic, but if the mask is used solely to achieve an outcome, it is inauthentic or manipulative. Jevon Perra likened forgiveness, in the context of the Course, to using a thorn to remove other thorns before discarding the final thorn, representing the release of all stories and definitions of separation, including the basic story of "I am a person".Personal Defenses and Childhood Experiences Soo Kim shared that they need to clarify goals with their therapist, describing an ego defense named Meredith that comes out when they feel threatened. Soo Kim spoke about their mother's attempt to "smooth out" their "sharp" personality, suggesting their mother's goal was to mold them into a compliant and useful member of society. Soo Kim felt they were never allowed to have feelings or opinions validated, which was compounded by Korean and Catholic cultures, leading them to try and figure out who they are and not be ruled by these pressures.Enneagram Type and Parental Judgment Denise Darlene asked Soo Kim about their Enneagram type, confirming they are a 54, which aligns with having a private life and a tendency to analyze a lot. Soo Kim recounted a past event where their sister, who attended a birthday event, was surprised by the number of friends present, saying their mother felt nobody would show up due to Soo Kim's "sharp personality". Denise Darlene affirmed that the need for "quieting" was about Soo Kim's mother's image and fear of judgment, asserting that Soo Kim is never the problem in any relationship.Conflict Resolution and Capacity Soo Kim described a recent rupture with Leila, noting Leila's text message stating being overwhelmed and "not ready" to talk. Soo Kim felt Leila's apology for causing hurt seemed like a "fake" attempt to sweep things under the rug, prioritizing ease over an authentic conversation. Denise Darlene advised Soo Kim to consider that Leila's response reflects her capacity, noting that Leila may not approach things the same way Soo Kim does.Emotional Triggers and Inquiry Denise Darlene suggested that nothing outside of a person can cause an experience, and emotional triggers point to an "old wound" or belief within that is being invited to be investigated and rewritten. When Soo Kim mentioned feeling annoyed, Denise Darlene clarified that annoyance indicates being triggered, and asked about Soo Kim's fear in that moment, to which Soo Kim responded with a fear of being "worthless" and feeling "disrespected". Denise Darlene suggested investigating the feeling of being disrespected or dismissed, potentially using Byron Katie's work, and proposed that inquiry, such as asking "How are you feeling right now," is critical to avoid making assumptions or projections.The Journey of Unfolding and Spiritual Practice Denise Darlene clarified that they are not inviting Soo Kim to "soften" but to address the triggers that cause harm, noting that the journey involves moving away from the extremes of being silenced or being overly loud. Soo Kim then suggested reading or doing Lesson 35 from the Course. Jevon Perra read Lesson 35, "My mind is part of God's. I am very holy," which focuses on establishing identity by establishing one's source, presenting a view of the self beyond the ego-based image or "persona".Applying the Lesson and Releasing Attachments Lesson 35 instructs the application to focus on the perceiver, searching the mind for descriptive terms (positive or negative) used to see oneself, and following each term with "but my mind is part of God's I am very holy". Jevon Perra discussed the Course's idea of a "tiny mad idea" of separation, which leads to a choice between love or fear, sameness or difference, in every moment. Jevon Perra asserted that the whole work is about releasing, as there is nothing to accomplish or prove.Defense, Neutrality, and Removing Blocks Soo Kim brought up the idea of divine versus profane masculine and feminine, expressing a desire to know themself and not be boundaryless or "trampled on". Denise Darlene emphasized that the only reason for defense is believing one has been attacked, referencing Don Miguel Ruiz's The Four Agreements, particularly "don't take anything personally". Denise Darlene described neutrality as an "unbelievably powerful" position, achieved by processing the understanding that other people's actions are not about oneself, and that any negative reaction is rooted in a belief within that is being triggered. Jevon Perra agreed that the true work is letting go of barriers and attachments, which are held by the self.Healing and Spiritual Truth Denise Darlene stated that triggers are an invitation to address wounded parts of oneself, which requires feeling them, as one cannot heal what they do not feel. Denise Darlene advised that even with evidence to the contrary, the spiritual truth of who Soo Kim is, is love. Jevon Perra concluded that the whole purpose of non-dual work is to let go of the barriers to love, which Denise Darlene defined as fear and lies.Sacrificing Desired Outcomes Jevon Perra shared observations about sacrificing the very thing they are working for, drawing a parallel to sacrificing time with family while building the family. They stated that this is how most of life is, sacrificing what they truly want, such as peace and contentment. Soo Kim expressed surprise at how well the lesson they read applied to the conversation.Identity and Detachment Denise Darlene discussed attaching identity to descriptive words like "I am direct" or "I am loud," suggesting that these are actually what one is not. They asserted that they are not any specific role like a mother, wife, or daughter, but rather that these are "hats" they wear. Soo Kim noted that the neutrality discussed earlier seems to stem from self-knowledge and knowing what works and what doesn't, hoping the lesson would help them achieve detachment and neutrality.Autonomy Versus Neutrality Denise Darlene clarified the distinction between autonomy and neutrality, explaining that autonomy is about being one's own person governed by personal likes and dislikes. In contrast, neutrality, as discussed in the course, is about stepping back from the ego's meaning-making process where meaning is placed on absolutely everything seen with physical eyes. Denise Darlene added that there is a deeper spiritual meaning experienced through connecting with God, which operates through the "filter of love".Non-Attachment and Identity Jevon Perra differentiated between detachment and non-attachment, explaining that non-attachment, spiritually speaking, allows someone to still go for what they want with full force but without having to achieve a certain outcome. They emphasized that the outcome does not have to define one's identity, allowing a person to accept not achieving a goal without getting upset, reflecting a mindset of "how curious, interesting". Denise Darlene assured Soo Kim that they would get "another chance" and the lesson is not finished, as they are "going around the mountain".

ACIM with Denise. https://www.newparadigmoflove.org/#trust #trusting and the Ego Jevon Perra explained that learning to trust God, the one power manipulating and directing life, allows for rest because all challenges are directed by God for one's highest good. The lack of trust stems from the ego, which includes not trusting oneself or feeling inadequate, which Jevon Perra stated is the untrustworthy and "not good enough" ego (00:03:06). They invited participants to trust their "higher self" and develop the awareness to distinguish between the ego and the peaceful movements of the Holy Spirit (00:04:19).Perception, Cause, and Effect Jevon Perra discussed how a lack of trust is associated with the expectation of an external effect needing to happen for them to reach a desired state, such as gaining possessions to be at peace or achieving respect after learning enough (00:04:19). They highlighted the teaching that perception is learning and cause and effect are never separated, suggesting that the suffering comes from the belief that a specific external effect must happen (00:05:55). Jevon Perra also suggested naming the ego, sharing that their ego's name is Dorca, to create separation and to not take the ego's fear-based, trouble-causing actions seriously (00:07:04).Trust, Expectation, and Surrender When in trust, Jevon Perra noted that they let go of all their "rackets" and expectations, including the meaning of what is happening (00:08:34). Kristen shared that this concept feels like having "split personalities" between the true self and the ego, and confessed that their rage stems from going off emotions rather than trusting God (00:09:36). Jevon Perra emphasized that the ego is arrogant and thinks it knows everything, but the reality is that surrender and trust in God's governance are necessary to experience the "kingdom of heaven on earth" (00:13:07).Trust in Difficult Circumstances and Medical Treatment Kristen, who was starting radiation that day, discussed how the "not knowing" triggers them and turns them into a different person, but they must trust the process and believe that the experience is their path. Jevon Perra suggested that the doctors and medical staff are operating through the mind of God and that trust should be placed in God's directive, noting that even if we do not like the circumstances, the ultimate purpose is love (00:10:40) (00:15:35). Jevon Perra also shared a personal story about their son being shot at while in Iraq, where God invited them to live in the present moment and assured them of their presence if the worst happened, encouraging Kristen to trust that God will be with them through their challenges (00:28:53).The Process of Undoing and Developing Trust Jevon Perra referred to the stages of trust development as the "period of undoing," where things that were always meaningless, such as material things, identity, and security, are removed from one's life (00:20:44). Kristen acknowledged the difficulty of trusting the process, especially when taking time off, noting that confronting the ego is uncomfortable (00:24:37). Jevon Perra recommended that Kristen look into a detox with a holistic practitioner in Mission Viejo to get the radiation out of their system more quickly (00:25:49).Ego Awareness and Practical Tools Jevon Perra emphasized that willingness to change directions and be governed by the Holy Spirit is the only requirement for moving from fear to trust (00:32:20). They also highlighted that awareness of the ego's predictable patterns and strategies is 80% of the work toward awakening and suggested using the Enneagram, which profiles the ego, to learn about its fixations and core beliefs (00:34:22). Jevon Perra concluded by offering to text Kristen contact information for the holistic practitioner and links for the Enneagram test, suggesting a future discussion about their results (00:37:19).

Discussion on Perception and Love Leila Fung shared a revelation from a previous text about realizing that they and Jared were viewing situations through a lens of annoyance or upset, though Leila Fung had "no anger" toward Jevon Perra's family. Jevon Perra noted the many layers of perception where individuals make things as they think they are, leading to stress and anger. Leila Fung stated they were hoping to be authentically loving, with everything that comes out of them being love.Jevon Perra's Business Transition and Marketing Challenges Jevon Perra discussed their slow transition in a new business venture due to not being able to use mass marketing for bridge loans because of new website and email. They explained that mass marketing with a new email address can lead to being flagged as spam, necessitating manual texting, calling, and one-by-one emailing. Jevon Perra also mentioned being careful about communication to manage industry gossip that might get back to "Bob" to maintain a good working relationship.Focus on Shared Interests and Reducing Suffering Leila Fung shared that their focus while reading and learning would be repairing their relationship with their sister-in-law by viewing everything through a "mutual shared interest" lens. Soo Kim related to this, noting that at month-end, they perceive anyone taking them away from their production list as an "enemy" (00:06:12). Jevon Perra discussed that the function of teachers of God is to save time, and this time saving comes from letting go of attachments and allowing a non-dual perception of forgiveness which saves "thousands of years of suffering" (00:08:39).The Role of the Teacher of God The group began reading Chapter 1 of the Manual for Teachers, titled "Who are God's teachers?". Soo Kim read that a teacher of God is anyone who chooses to be one and whose only qualification is that they have chosen to not see their interests as apart from someone else's (00:02:36). Jevon Perra clarified that the language used in the text is masculine due to the original template, but the concepts are general, emphasizing that seeing interests as the same is a characteristic of the teacher (00:03:41).The Universal Course and Salvation Soo Kim continued reading, noting that teachers of God come from all over the world and religions and that their function is to save time, with each one saving "a thousand years of time" (00:07:33). They read that the central theme of the universal course is that "God's son is guiltless and in his innocence in is his salvation" (00:11:26). Jevon Perra reiterated that seeing others as guiltless makes the perceiver feel free because their perception of the other is their experience of life, which is supported by the example of people being overly friendly to them when they walk around with a puppy (00:12:46).Shift in Perspective with Brokers Jevon Perra shared a personal story about changing their negative perception and resistance toward constant phone calls from brokers after realizing the brokers were calling because they had the wrong, old email address (00:16:19). Jevon Perra explained that answering the calls led to enjoyable conversations and resulted in making deals that wouldn't have happened otherwise because the inexperienced brokers would not have known how to email the correct information (00:17:13). Jevon Perra connected this to the concept of guiltlessness and common interest, stating, "We both want to close loans" (00:18:05).Interrupting Attachments and Control Soo Kim expressed difficulty applying Jevon Perra's experience to their own situation, where interruptions from loan officers felt like an attack, particularly because interruptions lead to missed details in their job. Jevon Perra highlighted that the suffering comes from the attachment to getting things done, not the task itself, and that one can decline calls without resistance and judgment (00:19:58). Soo Kim admitted that their attitude of preventing interruptions might be an "illusion of control" (00:22:22).Leila Fung's Relational Striving and Projection Leila Fung brought up Jared, their partner, taking responsibility for family issues, allowing them to let go of control, and considered whether this meeting could help him (00:23:33). Leila Fung then discussed their struggle with striving for a relationship with their sister-in-law, who exhibits lack of communication and effort, particularly regarding a Christmas breakfast (00:27:13). Leila Fung stated they feel hurt and unprioritized due to their sister-in-law's actions, contrasting it with the effort Leila Fung feels they put in (00:30:52).Discussion on Meaning and Resistance Jevon Perra responded to Leila Fung by explaining that the suffering comes from the meaning they are putting on the situation, not the situation itself, which is neutral (00:29:36) (00:35:14). Leila Fung identified their core meaning as, "I understand. She's not prioritizing me is the story that I'm telling myself and that's not fair" (00:36:14). Jevon Perra shared their own experience of feeling better by letting go of resistance and communicating with their mother, even when they had previously chosen to ignore their calls (00:37:08).Choosing Peace Over Suffering Jevon Perra used the example of the show Pluribus to illustrate that one can choose peace even in challenging situations, asserting that there is "no situation that I can't choose peace" (00:39:10) (00:41:31). Jevon Perra concluded that their experience comes from their perception, not the actions of others, and that they must constantly let go of attachments to how things "have to be" for them to be happy (00:42:39).Focusing on Interest vs. Outcome Leila Fung stated that their focus is always on the outcome, using the example of deciding on breakfast food for their family's visit (00:43:48). Jevon Perra emphasized that while outcomes are neutral, individuals constantly try to force specific outcomes for a particular meaning (00:45:45). The meeting concluded after finishing the current chapter of the Manual for Teachers (00:46:49).

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Jevon Perra introduced A Course in Miracles Lesson 33, highlighting the exercise of shifting perception to resolve inner disturbance, illustrating this with a personal experience where changing their viewpoint dramatically improved a previously negative experience. Soo Kim presented a workplace conflict where their sarcastic and unauthentic response to a coworker stemmed from stress and prioritizing their workload, questioning the difference between authenticity and perception, to which Jevon Perra responded that authenticity often acts as a limiting filter that causes distress when faced with differing contextual roles. Jevon Perra then used Byron Katie's "Work" to address Soo Kim's underlying belief of "not enough time," helping Soo Kim realize that this belief caused feelings of incompetence and outward projections, concluding that releasing this idea allows for kindness and trust that necessary tasks will be completed.Course in Miracles: Lesson 33 Jevon Perra introduced Lesson 33 of A Course in Miracles workbook, "There is another way of looking at the world," and noted that they were also making lunch and chai. They described the exercise as involving five minutes in the morning and evening, alternating between casual surveying of outer perceptions and inner thoughts, while maintaining detachment and repeating the idea throughout the day (00:18:20). Perra emphasized the importance of applying the idea immediately when feeling disturbed, saying, "There's another way of looking at this" (00:20:05).Personal Experience with Shifting Perception Jevon Perra shared a personal story about moving to Missouri in their 20s, believing it was what God wanted based on their grandparents' conviction, which resulted in them being depressed for three years (00:20:05). They recounted returning years later, running their own ministry in the same place with the same people and activities, yet having a vastly better experience because they viewed it as their choice and an adventure, illustrating that the difference was their perception (00:23:59). Perra concluded that anytime someone is disturbed, it is because of the way they are looking at the situation, often perceiving it as a jail, while they are simultaneously the jail, jailer, key, and prisoner (00:25:05).Dealing with Workplace Conflict and Authenticity Soo Kim discussed a recent work situation where a coworker, an account manager, came to them, an underwriter, for help with a broker who was not understanding an explanation (00:25:05). Soo Kim admitted that their immediate, unauthentic response was to sarcastically offer to trade jobs, which reflected their tendency to be direct and prioritize their own quota of underwriting six new loans that day while also being stressed from finals (00:26:38) (00:34:54). Soo Kim questioned the difference between "authentic" behavior and perception, noting that they were still bothered by the interaction 24 hours later (00:27:47).Perception Versus Authenticity Jevon Perra challenged Soo Kim's use of the word "authentic," suggesting that it presupposes a single, rigid way of being, whereas Perra had focused on their perception and engagement with a situation (00:27:47). Perra pointed out that viewing one's "authentic self" as rigid means any different engagement against that authentic identity would lead to distress (00:29:09). Perra argued that in a work context, an authentic self is just another filter, and internal distress arises from contextualizing a role (like dealing with sales-oriented brokers) as wrong or against what one should be doing (00:30:32).Change in Work Perception Jevon Perra noted their own experience, where they quit a job and started their own business in the same office, doing the same deals and having the same conversations, but with a different perception. Specifically, they hated talking to brokers as an underwriter because they wanted data, not stories, but now, as an originator needing to close deals to survive, Perra answers every call and is willing to hear their stories, finding it interesting even if it feels like a waste of time (00:31:39). Perra highlighted that their goal shifted, and their patience increased immensely simply by putting on a different role, demonstrating that the change was internal perception, not the external situation (00:44:16).Managing Disturbance and Time Constraints Soo Kim reiterated that they maintained their boundary with the account executive, informing them, "I am not a therapist and we are not running a charity," because they have a quota to meet and talking about problems is not their job (00:33:42). Jevon Perra clarified that doing one's job and being disturbed are different, emphasizing that the disturbance is internal resistance to the world as it shows up (00:36:23). Perra identified the internal resistance as the commitment to a belief, such as "I don't have enough time" (00:38:20) (00:46:35).The Work of Byron Katie Applied to "Not Enough Time" Jevon Perra led Soo Kim through the "Work" by Byron Katie, focusing on the belief "There's not enough time". Soo Kim admitted they could not absolutely know for sure that there was not enough time until they reviewed all their loans, but they conceded that their perception of "no time" makes them feel incompetent. This feeling of incompetence then gets projected outward, causing them to react to others as if they are incompetent (00:53:48) (00:56:08).Turning Around the Belief Jevon Perra led Soo Kim to consider the reversal of the belief, "There is enough time," asking if that could be equally or more true. Soo Kim realized that if there were enough time, they would have to confront the fact that they are not very kind to themself (00:58:44). Perra pointed out that Soo Kim still has their job after working for a year, suggesting that whatever happened, there was enough time (01:00:04). Perra emphasized that if one lets go of the idea that there is not enough time, they can trust that they will figure out how to do what is necessary and allow themself to be kind, thus avoiding a natural defensive reaction against others perceived as taking their time (01:01:10).Freedom Through Perception Shift Jevon Perra concluded the discussion by reiterating the main point: "There is another way of looking at the world". They emphasized that the goal is not to change what other people want, but to be free with the same responsibilities (01:02:20). Perra suggested that if something feels bad, one should find the idea or judgment they are attached to, as this is what they can choose to shift (00:51:20) (01:03:38). Both participants agreed that the session was helpful for further thought and agreed on the importance of being "clear rather than nice" (00:40:33) (01:03:38).

Fear or Love talk with Denise at newparadigmoflove.orgJevon Perra opened the discussion by establishing that miracles have no order of difficulty and are shifts in perspective from fear to love, as defined by Denise Darlene, who also explained that healthy boundaries are rooted in self-sovereignty and clarity and not fear-based, addressing a question from Soo Kim about the divine feminine and boundaries. Denise Darlene introduced trust and honesty as the first two characteristics of "God's teachers," shared details of her marriage with Joe where she offered 100% freedom and non-attachment, and suggested a healing process for triggers, which was relevant to kristen who shared they were undergoing cancer treatment and experiencing intense fear; finally, Jevon Perra announced they were quitting their job, which Denise Darlene, Leila Fung, and kristen supported.Principles of Miracles and Order of Difficulty Jevon Perra opened the discussion by reading a passage from A Course in Miracles emphasizing that there is no order of difficulty in miracles, and all expressions of love are maximal, while the source of miracles is what truly matters (00:00:00). Denise Darlene defined a miracle as a shift in perspective from fear to love, which can be consciously chosen by seeking a loving meaning in events (00:01:35). Jevon Perra shared a personal anecdote about a challenging trip to Costa Rica where they realized that obstacles could be viewed as opportunities for adventure rather than battles (00:02:58).Choosing Meaning and Perception Jevon Perra concluded that everyone is the "meaning machine," choosing between a fearful, angry story or a loving, fun story for any given circumstance (00:05:21). They connected the idea of miracles occurring naturally as expressions of love, where the real miracle is the inspiring love itself (00:06:26). Jevon Perra emphasized that choosing love is a simple choice, not something that requires achievement or external criteria, asking why anyone would choose "crazy" instead of that peaceful, loving state (00:07:53).Presence and Fear Denise Darlene asserted that being present in the moment is key to making loving choices, as fear is typically about the future or past interpretations (00:09:00). Soo Kim showed an oracle card from A Course in Miracles that speaks to the idea that everything that happens is gently planned for one's highest good, which can shift a state of fear (00:10:18). Jevon Perra reflected on how previous difficult life events, like moving to Missouri and leaving Fresno, ultimately led to a wonderful current relationship, suggesting that perhaps everything happening is the best thing possible (00:13:38) (00:15:22).Intimate Connection and Self-Reflection Jevon Perra shared how being open and engaging with everyone during their trip to Costa Rica led to wonderful intimate connections and gifts, concluding that the main difference in the experience was themself (00:15:22). They questioned if they were truly creating their own heaven or hell regardless of external circumstances (00:17:31).Divine Feminine, Boundaries, and Love Soo Kim raised a question about the distinction between the divine feminine, which extends love, and the profane feminine, which might allow being "walked all over," particularly concerning setting boundaries without enabling others (00:17:31). Denise Darlene responded that boundaries are natural when one is in a state of love and peace, contrasting this with fear-based boundary setting (00:20:34). Denise Darlene emphasized that healthy boundaries are rooted in self-sovereignty and clarity, and the other person does not have to agree (00:21:44).Trust and Honesty as Characteristics of God's Teachers Denise Darlene introduced the first two characteristics of "God's teachers" from the manual of A Course in Miracles: trust, followed by honesty (00:23:19). She stated that only those who truly trust can be truly honest, and many people live lies as part of codependent behavior, which is an attempt to be loved (00:21:44). Denise Darlene recommended Byron Katie's work as helpful for addressing codependency (00:23:19).Self-Awareness and Guilt Soo Kim became emotional, realizing how little they knew themself and expressing guilt over projection, which Denise Darlene acknowledged as a beautiful insight (00:25:43). Denise Darlene suggested that guilt comes from fear-based judgment, and a first step is to drop judgment and look at past choices through a "filter of neutrality," recognizing that the meaning was decided by the individual (00:27:31). She added that people are essentially "innocent and wounded," and judgments over choices have nothing to do with their eternal self (00:28:44).Authenticity, Freedom, and Non-Attachment in Relationships Jevon Perra asked Denise Darlene to share about the beginning of their marriage with Joe, specifically how she committed to never making him "bad" and giving him 100% freedom, even regarding sexual relationships (00:30:16). Denise Darlene explained that love is freedom, and she wanted Joe to be entirely authentic, even though they were coming out of long relationships (00:31:44). She stated that she gave Joe permission to be authentic, believing that any trigger was her own wound to work on, not Joe's problem (00:34:19).Navigating Relationship Boundaries and Personal Healing Denise Darlene shared that her boundary with Joe was that she required a monogamous relationship, and if he chose otherwise, she would leave, which was her truth (00:35:28). She noted that Joe was actually monogamous, but the "free pass" allowed them to explore authenticity. The experience helped Denise Darlene overcome the lie that she "didn't matter," realizing her worth and that Joe's initial reluctance was a "gift" from God to facilitate her internal work. Denise Darlene stressed the Buddhist law of non-attachment and accepting the love one already is, which Joe helped her develop (00:36:37) (00:56:47).The Ego, Fear, and the Path to Freedom kristen expressed that the lessons shared were difficult, with Denise Darlene affirming that addressing these things is challenging for the ego. Denise Darlene proposed that earth is a school to transcend ego patterns, and fear is an invitation to look at what is disrupting one's peace and love (00:37:48). She mentioned that awareness is 80% of the work in shifting out of fear, and tools like the Enneagram can help identify and stop ego patterns (00:40:21).Addressing Fear and Illness kristen shared they were undergoing cancer treatment, experiencing intense fear and noticing a change in themself, leading to anger and fighting with family (00:41:45). Denise Darlene suggested that kristen's anger and resentment might be old, buried issues surfacing now because they are in a weakened state and cannot suppress them anymore (00:45:36). Denise Darlene proposed that this difficult experience is kristen's "classroom," a path to freedom and their true identity of love, because the roots of old patterns need to be pulled up (00:47:08) (00:49:42).Process for Healing Triggers Denise Darlene outlined a specific healing process for triggers: locate the tension in the body, ask the feeling what it is and what it is here to teach (00:51:59). She explained that triggers reveal a lie (a subconscious belief) that needs to be replaced with the truth through repetition, providing the example of replacing "I don't matter" with the truth (00:53:15). A final step involves watching the anxiety or negative emotion in the body with the mind's eye until it dissipates (00:57:44).Allowing Energy to Move Through Denise Darlene shared a technique for managing emotions by focusing the mind's eye on the energy to prevent it from "telling stories," which are what keeps people trapped in emotions. They explained that when the mind is focused, it can only do one thing at a time, allowing the energy, like a cloud, to move through. Jevon Perra expressed gratitude for Denise Darlene's service and love, noting that serving people is part of them (00:59:11).Denise Darlene's Services and Availability Jevon Perra mentioned that Denise Darlene does coaching and retreats, which is one of the main ways they share their work. Leila Fung and kristen expressed interest in the retreats, with Jevon Perra offering to text kristen Denise Darlene's contact information. Jevon Perra also noted that Denise Darlene is like a mother and a great friend, calling them "so pretty," to which Denise Darlene and Leila Fung responded with gratitude and agreement (01:00:34).

Dealing with outsiders - ACIM text Intro SummaryThe text frames forgiveness as the essential condition that allows prayer to rise. Prayer is timeless; forgiveness is temporary because it exists only as long as judgment exists. Judgment is the act of assigning meaning, dividing people into categories, and assuming one knows what things “mean.” Forgiveness is the release of these interpretations. When interpretations fall away, perception changes, and the present moment becomes workable. If one dislikes a person, situation, or oneself, the “problem” is usually the judgment attached to it, not the thing itself.Forgiveness ends when the belief in being a separate self ends—when identity is no longer the body or the stream of personal thoughts. In that state, everything is experienced as connected, already fulfilled, and harmless. Life becomes more like watching a play with Jesus rather than being trapped in it.Examples illustrate this.• Leila misinterpreted her child's social situation and built elaborate stories about rejection; once she asked directly, the situation dissolved and the judgment was revealed as fiction.• Jevon described feeling rejected at a conference, noticing how his own conflicting desires—wanting inclusion and wanting to escape—created inner turmoil.The text warns that forgiveness is often misunderstood. Many use it as a weapon, implying superiority or reinforcing guilt (“I forgive you, but you were wrong”). This is “forgiveness to destroy,” which keeps sin alive, enlarges error, and treats love as dangerous. Real forgiveness does the opposite: it sees sameness, not hierarchy.Guilt is discussed as the root of suffering. The primary guilt is the belief in separation from God, which generates the special, separate self. That guilt is projected outward, causing constant searching for fault. The ego promises fulfillment in separateness but delivers contradiction: wanting acceptance while wanting uniqueness; wanting children strong but wanting them shielded from hardship; wanting love but withholding openness. The ego's motto is “seek but do not find.”To undo guilt, one releases seriousness. Seriousness presumes that death is real, danger is real, and enemies exist. When seriousness dissolves, the need for an enemy dissolves. Attack—toward strangers, loved ones, or oneself—comes from believing danger is real and separation is real. If there is no “other,” there is no one to defend against.One discussion showed this dynamic:• kristen projected financial fear onto China and reacted with anger. Jevon pointed out the underlying fear—being asked for money and feeling trapped between giving and resenting or refusing and feeling guilty. The shift comes from reframing the ask as trust rather than burden.• Soo asked about “other” versus “enemy.” Jevon noted that an enemy begins as an “other,” and the world expands or contracts based on who is included in one's sense of oneness.• Conversations about belonging versus uniqueness showed that the conflict is not solved by choosing one side but by recognizing that both desires arise from the mistaken identity as a separate self.Several interpersonal examples explored how to respond to overwhelming or difficult people.• Leila struggled with a talkative acquaintance. Jevon suggested either the gentle advisory approach (“In my life I've found…”) or the direct but open-hearted approach (“Have you noticed that…?”). The point is authenticity, not accusation. Avoidance appears kind but is usually self-protection dressed as politeness. Real kindness is truthful, curious, and anchored in goodwill.• Healthy communication requires noticing one's own judgments and speaking from clarity rather than irritation. Accusatory statements trigger defense; open statements invite reflection. Space in conversation corresponds to space in the person's inner life; when someone barrels ahead without pause, they are often afraid of what others might say.Leila later reported success using direct honesty with another friend, which deepened connection. This reinforced the idea that oneness appears when false stories and hidden resentments are cleared.The closing idea: forgiveness is always self-forgiveness. One never truly forgives “another,” because what is seen in others is one's own projected guilt. Prayer is a vibrational state—gratitude without judgment. Forgiveness restores this state by releasing the belief in separation and the need for an enemy. When that belief drops, the world becomes harmless, unified, and safe, and one realizes that one has never been alone.#acim #forgiveness

Jevon Perra led a discussion on "Forgiveness as an Ally to Prayer," explaining that forgiveness is the release of judgments and perceptions, which, unlike prayer, is temporary because it ends when one realizes oneness and steps out of the belief in a separate, defined self. Leila Fung and kristen shared personal examples of projecting judgments, with Leila Fung describing an issue with her child's social interactions and kristen detailing frustration over a friend's spending habits, which Jevon Perra analyzed as stemming from underlying fears of personal outcomes. The participants, including Soo Kim, explored the conflicting desires for belonging and uniqueness, and Jevon Perra offered Leila Fung practical, open-hearted communication strategies, learned from Jevon Perra's godmothers Caroline and Denise, for dealing with an overwhelming individual, stressing the importance of authenticity over avoidance.Forgiveness as an Ally to Prayer (Part Two: Forgiveness Introduction): Jevon Perra read a passage stating that forgiveness gives wings to prayer, making its ascent easy and swift, and that without it, one cannot rise above the bottom step of prayer. The text describes forgiveness as prayer's ally and sister in the plan for salvation, both supporting the individual, keeping their feet secure, and their purpose steadfast. While prayer is timeless, forgiveness has an end and becomes unneeded once the rising up is complete. However, in the present, forgiveness has a crucial purpose, and accomplishing it leads to redemption, transformation, and saving the world.The Temporary Nature of Forgiveness and the Role of Judgment: Jevon Perra explained that forgiveness, unlike its sister prayer, has an end because it is the release of judgments and perceptions. These judgments are the way individuals perceive things, assigning meaning, and often boxing people into categories like "friend or foe," with perceptions frequently flipping between the two categories, even when no actual change in the other person has occurred.Releasing Perception and Embracing the Current Moment: Jevon Perra discussed that the "perception game" involves giving up one's beliefs, admitting uncertainty, and acknowledging that one may not know what one truly wants. If this is the case, Jevon Perra suggested that the present situation might be perfect, as a "bigger game plan" with God and the universe is giving the individual exactly what they want. If an individual dislikes their companion, their actions, themself, or the world, Jevon Perra stated that the only necessary change might be letting go of the judgment and perception of how things "has to be," which is the essence of forgiveness.The End of Forgiveness and Realizing Oneness: Jevon Perra stated that the process of forgiveness ends when an individual steps out of the belief that they are a body and that their thoughts define them, because at that point they realize the reality of being connected, that "everything is okay and beautiful," and that their desires are already within them. Jevon Perra likened this state to being in a theater with Jesus, watching the entertaining drama of one's own life.Leila Fung's Personal Example of Releasing Judgment about her Child's Social Interactions: Leila Fung shared a personal anecdote about a conversation with her mother regarding her child's social life. Leila Fung initially expressed a judgment, thinking her child felt taken for granted by friends, but her mother stopped her, stating that she did not know the truth of the situation. Leila Fung's child felt like a "last resort friend," being asked to hang out after others were asked, and then being upset when friends did not reply to her, especially after seeing the friends' stories online. Leila Fung explained that after talking with one of the parents, everything was clarified, and she realized she had created "a thousand stories" in her head instead of choosing to forgive, release judgment, and find out the truth. Jevon Perra noted that when it concerns "level one" issues (like one's children), it is easy to enter "attack mode" to protect "my people".Jevon Perra's Experience of High School Dynamics and Conflicting Desires at a Conference: Jevon Perra shared a personal story about a work trip to Vegas where they felt a "high school scene" dynamic at a conference due to a colleague named Aaron, who was handsome and popular, having a group of "groupies" around them. Jevon Perra described walking behind this group, feeling rejected and separate, and being torn between wanting to talk to people and simultaneously wanting to run away due to difficulty with small talk. Jevon Perra recognized this as a "crazy swirl of meaning" and acknowledged making up many worlds and conflicting desires, such as wanting to be in the conversation but immediately wanting to escape it once there.Misunderstanding Forgiveness and the Role of Guilt: Jevon Perra introduced the section "Forgiveness of yourself," reading that forgiveness has been profoundly misunderstood, often becoming a "scourge" or "curse" instead of a blessing, especially for those not engaging in the steps of prayer. Jevon Perra explained that forgiveness is initially obscure because salvation is not understood or sought, and what should heal is used to hurt. The discussion highlighted that guilt is often chosen over forgiveness because individuals view their "separate activities" as a means to push through suffering, with the ultimate guilt being the separation from God that creates the special, separate self they ultimately desire to preserve, fearing "complete annihilation" worse than death.The Origin of Guilt and the Cherishing of Separate Self: Jevon Perra stated that the initial guilt and darkness stem from the act of separating from God, which then leads to projecting that guilt onto other things, causing a constant search for badness. Overcoming this requires releasing one's identity as a separate self, which Jevon Perra noted is often portrayed as a horrifying concept in media, citing examples like the Borg in Star Trek and a show about a mind-joining alien virus where only a few individuals retain separate minds. Jevon Perra concluded that the separate self is cherished, even though it is the source of suffering and the initial guilt one tries to escape."Forgiveness to Destroy" and Holding onto Projected Meaning: Jevon Perra read a passage describing "forgiveness to destroy," which suits the world's purpose by overlooking "no sin, no crime, no guilt" that can be found and cherished. Jevon Perra differentiated between forgiveness (seeing others as the same as oneself) and "forgiveness to destroy," which twists the idea of forgiveness, perhaps by making someone feel judged while being forgiven (e.g., "I'm going to forgive you, but just know you did a bad thing") or by minimizing oneself to "put up with it". This destructive form of forgiveness values error, magnifying mistakes, picking out "all evil things," and viewing love as a "hateful thing of danger and of death".Contradictory Desires and the Ego's Promise: Jevon Perra discussed the conflicting desires inherent in the ego's world, such as wanting to be loved and accepted while remaining separate and special, or wanting one's children to be strong without experiencing suffering. Jevon Perra stated that these desires contradict each other, as struggle and difficulty are what build strength, and separation is inherently painful despite the desire to be unique. The ego promises that separation will work, encouraging one to "Seek but do not find".The Practice of Releasing Seriousness and Choosing the Face of Christ: Jevon Perra emphasized the importance of self-forgiveness by releasing one's own recurring difficulties and choosing peace by not seeing error and not making it real. Jevon Perra advised selecting the loving choice and forgiving sin by seeing "the face of Christ" instead. Jevon Perra noted that hating the son (others) is hating the father (God), because seeing the son is seeing oneself, and how one sees oneself determines how God is seen. Jevon Perra stressed not making things so "serious" because seriousness is linked to the belief that death is real. If death is not real, the seriousness can be removed, and the need to create an enemy can be released.The Illusion of Enemies and the Impact of Seriousness: Jevon Perra explained that the need for an enemy arises when seriousness, and thus the reality of death, enters the game, justifying attack, even toward loved ones, as an attempt to protect them (e.g., yelling at kids to stay away from the street). Jevon Perra connected the attack on loved ones to the belief in the reality of death and applied this logic to attacking strangers, which is enabled by the "belief that there is a stranger" in the first place, rather than seeing everyone as loved by God.kristen's Example of Projecting Financial Judgment: kristen shared an example of projecting judgment onto someone named China, expressing frustration over China's spending habits, lack of savings, and frequent trips and concerts. kristen admitted yelling at China because they fear China will "end up like me," indicating an underlying concern tied to personal experience. Jevon Perra acknowledged the situation, relating it to their own experiences with family members and money mismanagement. Jevon Perra analyzed that the anger stems from the projection that the family member's mismanagement will lead them to ask Jevon Perra for money, creating an unwelcome situation where Jevon Perra would feel compelled to either give money, which Jevon Perra dislikes, or reject them and feel guilty/angry.Shifting Perspective on Requests for Help: Jevon Perra suggested reframing the situation to see the request for money differently, such as feeling grateful that the family member views Jevon Perra as a safe person to ask for things, even if the answer remains "No".The Connection Between "Other" and "Enemy": Soo Kim questioned Jevon Perra's choice of the word "other" versus "enemy". Jevon Perra clarified that one must be an "other" to become an enemy, and explained the spectrum of oneness, from one's friend group to family, nation, and humanity, versus the instantaneous creation of an "other" who is unlike oneself and therefore acceptable to attack.The Conflict Between Belonging and Uniqueness: Soo Kim discussed with their therapist the "push pull" between wanting to belong and wanting to be unique or authentic. Jevon Perra affirmed that the solution is not to focus on one or the other, but to recognize that the conflict is "not real". Jevon Perra reiterated the importance of self-awareness by watching oneself, as illustrated by their conference experience of desiring popularity and then immediately wanting to escape the crowd when achieved.Leila Fung's Church Experience of Desiring and Escaping Popularity: Leila Fung shared a similar experience at her church, where she desired to be well-known and engage in conversations, but upon achieving it, realized that the conversations were unhealthy and the people seeking attention were primarily looking for someone to listen to their "horror story or their drama". Leila Fung concluded that the reality was not what they thought it was.The Dichotomy of Wanting and Escaping Fame/Popularity: Jevon Perra likened this dynamic to the desire for fame, where people eventually complain about lack of privacy and constant interruption. Jevon Perra admitted to having a "spiritual asshole" about activities they deem unworthy of their time, like talking about football. However, Jevon Perra noted that engaging in "openhearted intercourse with the supposed other" makes the "otherness" disappear, citing the example of the unity and openness found in a stadium of sports fans.The Conditional Nature of Oneness and Relationship Checklists: Jevon Perra discussed how the story of oneness (like the unity at a sports game) is often accompanied by rules and criteria that can lead to its demise when people add their own destructive storylines, such as breaking a TV when a team loses. Jevon Perra compared this to relationships, where people have a checklist of requirements, and if the partner breaks a rule, the relationship is instantly terminated, and the person is quickly deemed an enemy "worthy of attack".Leila Fung's Situation with a Talkative Person: Leila Fung asked for help regarding a situation with a "very nice person" who was overwhelming because she constantly shared stories of anger and complaining. Leila Fung found it difficult to breathe and had to excuse themself under false pretenses. The person's daughter was invited over, and Leila Fung was unsure how to interact with the person again, seeking a way to "benefit" or feel safe in the space.Jevon Perra's Strategy for Dealing with Judged Individuals: Jevon Perra acknowledged their own tendency to judge people as "unworthy to be with". Jevon Perra explained that they try to emulate their godmother, Caroline, who is an "open light," by advising people, but framing the advice so that it is about Jevon Perra's own behavior (e.g., "I found that in my life...") while secretly addressing the behavior that is being judged. This technique allows Jevon Perra to find the dynamic in themself, which lessens the annoyance, and often leads to profound conversations.A Direct Approach to Over-Talking: Leila Fung expressed that her difficulty with the person was due to the rapid, constantly jumping topics. Jevon Perra suggested a more direct approach learned from their godmother, Denise. Denise starts by asking, "Have you noticed that?" and then shares her observation (e.g., "Have you noticed that you don't stop enough to have other people share?"). Leila Fung liked this phrasing ("Other people can't participate") and felt it would be helpful because the person "scares a lot of people off".Choosing Authenticity Over Offense: Jevon Perra stressed that while the direct approach might offend, it is better to be authentic and open-hearted than to hate one's life or eventually explode in anger. Jevon Perra stated that one cannot control whether someone takes offense but can control their own intention.Truthfulness vs. Lying in Communication: Jevon Perra discussed the desire for truthfulness and asked, "How much truth do you want?". They pointed out that most people would say they want truth, but many implicitly desire a slight lie. Jevon Perra emphasized that if one wants others to be truthful, they should offer their own true feelings in return, but in a non-accusatory, open-hearted way. Accusatory language (e.g., "You are annoying," "You're a hypocrite") triggers defense and attack.Framing Observations as Personal Realizations: Jevon Perra suggested framing the feedback about over-talking by saying, "It's occurred to me, I don't know if you've noticed this, and maybe I'm off," and then using the metaphor of a story having periods and paragraphs (space). Jevon Perra suggested asking, "What's going on in your mind? Tell me about that. Why is there no space?". Jevon Perra explained that a lack of space to speak often stems from the speaker being afraid to hear what others will say, which can be directly asked.Practicing Healthy Communication and the "I Love You" Filler: Jevon Perra emphasized the need to be a "really strong person to have a soft, open heart and be that direct". Leila Fung noted that practicing this builds the muscle necessary for healthy communication, preventing bottling up feelings until one "blows up". Jevon Perra shared that their godmother Caroline uses "I love you so much" as a conversational filler, which recontextualizes the conversation and reminds the other person that Jevon Perra is a friend.Choosing Loving Conversation Over Avoidance: Leila Fung admitted they previously complained about the person to her spouse and used to cut people out. Jevon Perra questioned which action is kinder: avoiding the person or having an open-hearted, loving, and curious conversation. Jevon Perra argued that avoiding the person is "self-serving" and only has the appearance of being loving, which Jevon Perra termed "nice behavior" that is insincere and bothers them.The Benefits of Realness and Oneness: Leila Fung shared a success story of confronting another friend directly, which led to a positive and receptive response and an invitation to Thanksgiving. Leila Fung concluded that going directly to the problem and finding the truth allows for mutual seeing and a connection of oneness, recognizing that others are going through similar struggles.Forgiveness as a Vibrational State and Release of Separation: Jevon Perra read a concluding passage stating that just as prayer is for oneself, forgiveness is always given to oneself, and it is impossible to forgive another because one only sees their own sins in the "supposedly the other". Jevon Perra defined prayer as a "vibrational state" achieved when releasing judgments and beliefs of separation, which raises one's state and is akin to a state of gratitude. Jevon Perra explained that forgiving the other is actually releasing oneself from the belief of separation and the story of having an enemy. When one releases this idea, the whole world is freed because the "dynamic of bondage and enemy is just ideas that I have in my mind," freeing the individual to realize they have been safe with Jesus all along.

#acim #believeittoseeit Nov 10, 2025SummaryJevon Perra opened the meeting and Soo Kim read Lesson 30, emphasizing that vision sees what is already in the mind, while "sight" is derived from projection, and the idea of "God is in everything I see because God is in my mind" should be applied often, both externally and internally. The participants discussed the concept of projection, with Jevon Perra explaining how the perceived "density" of an idea, like the "solid barrier" of silence in a relationship with Carolyn, relates to how hard it is to dissipate, a dynamic that kristen and their partner also experience. Soo Kim noted that relationship dynamics are influenced by "feminine energy," and the group shared personal experiences with projecting inner beliefs onto others, such as Soo Kim's belief that men are the enemy and Leila Fung's self-labeling as the "angry black woman," while kristen discussed their projection of not making their partner happy. Jevon Perra explored how one's greatest strength can be a weakness, leading to patterns of attracting partners who overcome formidable barriers, and Leila Fung stressed the importance of humanizing one's enemies, while Soo Kim and Leila Fung shared personal examples of pushing partners away as tests. Jevon Perra concluded that true love is unconditional, not a trade, and requires lowering defenses, and they also advised kristen, who struggles with maintaining unconditional love for their daughter Britain, to focus on giving themselves grace and being aware of self-created patterns.DetailsLesson 30: God is in everything I see because God is in my mind Jevon Perra opened the meeting, noting Leila Fung's absence due to Harper's birthday party, before Soo Kim began reading Lesson 30. The lesson introduces a "new kind of projection," where one attempts to see what is already in their mind in the world, seeking to join with what they see rather than keeping it apart. Soo Kim stated this is the fundamental difference between vision and the usual way of seeing.Vision versus Sight Jevon Perra clarified that "vision" relates to seeing the world as Christ sees it, whereas "sight" is what is projected out, often derived from sin, guilt, and separation. Jevon Perra added that the idea of perception, sin, and guilt is what people project out because they "feel bad about" it.Application of the Idea Soo Kim outlined the application of the day's idea, suggesting repeating it often while looking around and recognizing that it applies to everything seen or potentially seen. Soo Kim further noted that real vision is not limited by concepts like near and far, nor does it rely on the body's eyes, as the mind is its only source. Practice periods were also recommended to apply the idea with eyes closed, looking within rather than without, as the idea applies equally to both.Ideas and Density Jevon Perra discussed how within and without are essentially the same, contrasting the perception that the physical world is "real" while ideas are merely "made up". They drew an analogy between the idea of something being physically dense, like a table, and its spiritual/vibrational density, suggesting that a denser, or slower-vibrating, idea like ice is harder to dissipate or "let go" than the lighter water vapor. Jevon Perra used the example of adding heat to ice to raise its vibration, moving it from solid to liquid to vapor, which relates to how things in life can move from solid barriers to formless states that do not impede one.Personal Barriers and Relationships Jevon Perra applied the concept of making things solid to personal barriers in relationships, citing their experience with their partner, Carolyn, where Carolyn's silence when upset becomes a painful, "deafening" solid barrier. Jevon Perra noted that when themself makes a problem real, they support its "solidness" and "permanence," making it worse. kristen related to this dynamic, noting it "sounds just like" them and their partner, considering it a "whole boundary thing".Gender Dynamics in Relationships Soo Kim suggested that women often control the flow of their family and relationships because it aligns with "feminine energy," which is linked to emotion and life force, while masculine energy is containment. Jevon Perra agreed, likening themself to the "fire pit" and Carolyn to the "fire," noting that when the "fire goes out it's like cold".De-solidifying Conflicts Jevon Perra discussed the importance of realizing a difficulty is "not real" to keep it fluid, which raises the frequency to "pass right through it". They shared that in their relationship, when one person is "unhinged," the other person makes the situation "not real," such as Carolyn laughing when Jevon Perra gets upset over "stupid stuff".

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SummarySoo Kim introduced the lesson "God is in everything I see," which explains why everything serves a universal purpose and is the foundation for vision. Jevon Perra explained that this implies everything is a projection or expression of God, and that individual perspective determines what is perceived as "good" or "bad." Jevon Perra also introduced two paths for personal progression, the "way of love" and the "way of wisdom," and discussed the concept of "Leela," the cosmic dance. The main talking points were the core idea, its application, the interconnectedness of all things, and different paths of spiritual progression.DetailsGod is in Everything I See Soo Kim introduces the lesson, "God is in everything I see," explaining that it clarifies why everything serves a universal purpose and why nothing is truly separate or meaningless. This idea is presented as the foundation for vision, though it may initially seem challenging or illogical (00:00:00).Application and Practice Soo Kim outlines the practice sessions, recommending six two-minute periods where participants repeat the idea and apply it to randomly chosen objects, emphasizing the importance of avoiding self-selection due to the idea's "wholly alien nature" (00:01:17). Jevon Perra connects this lesson to previous ones, suggesting it aligns with the concept of not knowing what one is looking at, as the purpose of the course is to remove obstacles to love, not to acquire it (00:02:44).God as Expression and Projection Jevon Perra explains that "God is in everything I see" implies everything is a projection or an expression of God (00:03:57). They clarify that God is not "in" individuals in a compartmentalized sense, but rather individuals exist within God (00:05:12). Jevon Perra also addresses the difficulty of accepting God's presence in seemingly negative events, reframing them as part of a larger, beneficial process, although acknowledging that such interpretations can be seen as "magic" (00:07:33).Perspective and Illusion Jevon Perra discusses how individual perspective determines what is perceived as "good" or "bad," illustrating this with an example of different reactions to the same person (00:09:37). They emphasize that everything experienced is part of one's own "story" or "movie," which is a projection from a single creative source, and that judgment is a constant human activity (00:10:38).Paths to Progression Jevon Perra introduces two paths for personal progression: the "way of love" (the way of the baby kitten, involving loving devotion and intention) and the "way of wisdom" (the way of the baby monkey, a harder path of understanding) (00:16:47). The left-hand path, associated with wisdom, involves domination and control, while the right-hand path, associated with love, involves letting go and forgiveness (00:17:43) (00:19:58). Jevon Perra clarifies that neither path is inherently good or bad, and individuals may engage in both, emphasizing the importance of avoiding rigidity in learning (00:20:58) (00:23:10).Cosmic Dance and Unfulfillment Jevon Perra introduces the concept of "Leela," the cosmic dance or divine play in Hindu philosophy, where the universe is a spontaneous expression of the divine (00:12:39) (00:14:35). Jevon Perra also highlights that feeling unfulfilled in life can be a "beautiful blessing," indicating an openness to different possibilities and a recognition that one's current existence might be infinitely smaller than what is possible (00:15:35).Masculine and Feminine Archetypes Soo Kim inquires about the connection between the kitten/monkey analogy and masculine/feminine archetypes, to which Jevon Perra clarifies that both masculine and feminine archetypes exist on each path (00:24:16). Jevon Perra explains that masculine archetypes tend to be more linear and goal-oriented, while feminine archetypes are more embracing, multi-tasking, open, accepting, and nurturing (00:25:18)."God is in Everything I See" Mantra Jevon Perra reiterates the core idea, "God is in everything I see," connecting it to the Sanskrit Gayatri chant, which expresses gratitude and recognition of God's omnipresent manifestation (00:26:40). Jevon Perra encourages applying this perspective to all encounters, even challenging ones, viewing them as expressions of God (00:29:14).Practice Schedule Soo Kim reminds Jevon Perra about the practice schedule, which includes six two-minute practice periods and repeating the idea at least once an hour. Jevon Perra suggests setting an hourly alarm as a reminder for the practice (00:31:08).Suggested next stepsSoo Kim will set up a Google Calendar invite for the practice periods and invite Jevon Perra.Soo Kim and Jevon Perra will practice the lesson by repeating the idea to themselves and then applying it to randomly chosen objects around them for six two-minute sessions.Soo Kim and Jevon Perra will repeat the idea at least once an hour, looking slowly about as they say the words to themselves.

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