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Every week, Billy Mitchell and Michael Mapson delve into Modern and Legacy on this Magic: the Gathering podcast. Perfect for your drive to work, Billy and Michael bring humor, skill, and heart to the some of Magic's most difficult formats.

Billy Mitchell & Michael Mapson


    • Apr 18, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 207 EPISODES


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    Relics of Tarkir: Dragonstorm - Ep. 205

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2025 64:33


    Billy and Mapson discuss the cards that have broken through to Modern and Legacy.

    Top Bird and Sorry Sowers - Ep. 204

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2025 49:43


    Mapson, fresh off a Legacy Showcase Challenge top 4, regales us with journey before the hosts dive into the new Modern and Legacy bans.

    Race to the Finish! - Ep. 203

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 44:53


    Billy and Mapson talk about which cards from Aetherdrift have kicked it into high gear upon set release. We have a high octane episode this week!

    2 Fast 2 Curious - Ep. 202

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2025 56:41


    Billy and Mapson review the Modern Regional Championships from the past weekend and discuss what has raced to their attention from Aetherdrift.

    Legacy Showcases and Modern Breakdowns - Ep. 201

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2025 73:09


    Billy and Mapson crash course the Legacy format prior to the Legacy Showcase Challenges before wading through the Modern Regional Championship results from around the world.

    Give Me Your Best! - Ep. 200

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2025 55:18


    200 means more knowledge and the boys are serving! Thank you for 200 episodes of love and support! Lend an ear and hang out with Mapson and Billy for some evergreen advice. Mapson's Threads: https://x.com/ExpeditionMap/status/1879175751259598953 https://bsky.app/profile/expeditionmap.bsky.social/post/3lfphyqke522g Jadine's Article: https://articles.starcitygames.com/articles/learning-when-to-blink-in-magic-games/

    Favorites of 2024 - Ep. 199

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2025 58:41


    Billy and Mapson reflect on the year that was in 2024.

    Splinter Twin Situation: B&R Update - Ep. 198

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2024 95:13


    Because we can't decide on a proper title, we'll share some of the names on the cutting room floor. Frogs on The Bauble - too unclear Guess Who's Back! - sounds like an Eminem promo We had so many changes to Modern and Legacy that we needed to talk through what everything meant. We go deep on changes to format curation, what other cards could be unbanned, and what cards escaped for now. - way beyond character limit B&R Announcement - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-december-16-2024

    Forging a Champion w/ Kelvin Wallace - Ep. 197

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2024 62:59


    The boys are back with the 2024 NA Eternal Weekend Legacy champion Kelvin Wallace to discuss his preparation for the event, how he settled on his final list, and what makes Eternal Weekend one of the best events of the year. Want more Kelvin Wallace? Find him on X at @kjwallace18 Up for some Legacy competition in the Southern Ontario region? Check out Legacy of the North! https://legacynorf.com/who-we-are/

    Waiting for Pittsburgh - Ep. 196

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2024 52:56


    Billy and Mapson return to the microphones after a long hiatus to discuss the state of the Legacy metagame days before the Eternal Weekend North America begins. What decks stand at the top of the current meta? Where are the hosts leaning for the Legacy Championship? Did you miss us?

    Chicken-a-la-King! - Ep. 195

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2024 25:47


    Mapson returns from Ohio as the winner of BCDL 16! He talks about the immaculate vibes of the events and the performance of Nadu in Legacy over two days of Legacy action.

    Chickening Out in Legacy - Ep. 194

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2024 62:14


    Billy and Mapson go over the big decks in Legacy to know prior to BCDL this weekend. Also some big updates at the end!

    Nothing as Certain as Death & Taxes w/ Akaleth - Ep. 193

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2024 56:41


    Evan Lewis, better known as Akaleth, is one of the premier Death and Taxes players on MTGO. He stops by the show to discuss his deck of choice, why the black splash is the best variant in the current Legacy metagame, and why Philly is the best venue for Eternal Weekend. Also what is the big secret to becoming a streamer? Find Evan online! - https://twitter.com/Akaleth https://linktr.ee/akaleth

    SCG Baltimore Tournament Report - Ep. 192

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2024 55:10


    Billy and Mapson go over their Modern and Legacy events from this past weekend at SCG Baltimore.

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    Bloomburrow Pick 2 - Ep. 191

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2024 78:29


    Billy and Mapson find the cutest, most adorable bunnies and rabbits that will (hopefully) make their ways into the Modern and Legacy formats. They also discuss their choices going into SCG Baltimore this weekend for both formats.

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    Dipping into Legacy with Robert Wilson - Ep. 190

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2024 90:22


    Billy is joined by Robert Wilson, founder of Buffalo Chicken Dip Legacy, to discuss the state of the Legacy format, the effects of the current set release cadence, and their favorite Bluey episodes. Find Rob on X at https://twitter.com/BcdLegacy https://twitter.com/Robert_H_Wilson Interested in playing in the upcoming BCDL events? https://t.co/8VKPvFgqxQ https://t.co/Hs2ttdLKFH

    Mystic Forging Victory with Mark Marra - Ep. 189

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2024 69:03


    Friend of the show Mark Marra stops by to discuss the Mystic Forge deck he took to a top 8 finish in the Showcase Challenge.

    Pruning Down PT Nadu - Ep. 188

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2024 87:25


    The Pro Tour is over but the work is just beginning. Join Mapson and Billy as they review the data and evaluate their takeaways of Modern post-MH3. Also Legacy. #BanGrief

    1100 Days of Grief in Legacy- Ep. 187

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2024 43:04


    Billy discusses the most recent banned and restricted announcement and the subsequent interview from Blake Rasmussen and Andrew Brown. 6-24-2024 B&R Announcement - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/june-24-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement WeeklyMTG discussing the B&R - https://t.co/c3PsrNqqJN

    Modern Musings wih MH3 - Ep. 186

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2024 92:01


    Billy and Mapson discuss the latest format updates.

    Tron Bad, Necro Good? with Ryan Nicholas- Ep. 185

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2024 65:20


    Mapson is joined by co-founder of BetterDaysMTG Ryan Nicholas, aka tronisbad, to discuss the fledgling MTGO Creator Program and the recent MH3 Early Access. Which cards impressed Ryan? Tune in to find out! Find Ryan on social media using his Linktree - https://t.co/l9Tr40VcRs

    Much Nadu About Nothing - Ep. 184

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2024 45:49


    Is Nadu the next Beans? Insert 2nd hype question here. Try not to break the third wall. Remember that all good cards are Simic. Cry softly holding your Elementals deck and hope everything will be alright.

    How to Make: a Podcast - Ep. 183 (Uncut)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2024 61:47


    Billy is spilling the secrets on how to acquire unbounded success as a podcast. Wait...no... Billy is giving you tips on how to create a podcast of your own. No secret sauce or pacts with Griselbrand; just a barebones list of considerations before you make the next great podcast, Magic or otherwise. To illustrate a few points, Billy did not fully edit this episode. As a result, you will hear a lot more "noise" this week. This is a conscious choice. Don't message him on social media about it. He knows.

    Prisoner's Dilemma - Ep. 182

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2024 57:27


    The hosts make up for lost time and discuss everything Magic. We discuss interpretive swimming and ethics in gaming.

    The Sharpshooters of Thunder Junction - Ep. 181

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2024 53:13


    We gathered the best outlaws the Omenports could muster and brought them to your doorstep. See what cards have made the leap into Modern and Legacy in the early weeks of OTJ.

    Leaks on the Horizon - Ep. 180

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2024 74:26


    Billy and Mapson had a long day, so of course they ended up talking about potato-phone leaks, the surprising response from Wizards, and look over the official Modern Horizon 3 previews. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you

    Savor the Squirrel - Ep. 179

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2024 62:40


    Mapson reports about Spells at the Squirrel while Billy manages to talk about cEDH for much longer than expected.

    Outlaws of Thunder Junction: Pick 2 - Ep. 178

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2024 60:40


    Cozy up to the Dark Depths Corral as we dig into Outlaws of Thunder Junction. What cards are Modern standouts? What card are others sleeping on? Find out this and more!

    Countdown to Doomsday... - Ep. 177

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2024 72:20


    Billy and Mapson speak about expectations for Doomsday players, how Asmo managed to win a challenge in Modern, and what could be a good addition to the Legacy player's data arsenals. https://www.lord-of-legacy.com/ Ecobaronen's 4 Color Beanstalk Guide - https://mtgdecks.net/guides/4-color-beanstalk-guide-taking-down-the-legacy-showcase-mtg-246

    Winter Winddown and Winner Meta - Ep. 176

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2024 68:28


    Winter seems to be wrapping up in the Northeast and it appears Billy and Mapson have come out of their winter resting place. They played events of varying formats but now must overcome a maturing Modern and Legacy metagame. Will the hosts survive? Will Alex emerge from his training in time to assist his friends? Will Goku finally be able to control his Instinct? Find out on this episode!

    Life and Love in the Time of Grief - Ep. 175

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2024 64:14


    Billy and Mapson discuss love, the gaslighting of escape rooms, and which deck was all over the top tables of the Legacy Showcase Challenge.

    Flying High at SCG Philly with Patrick Owens - Ep. 174

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2024 82:48


    After an impressive weekend in their own rights, Patrick Owens comes on to discuss his win in the Legacy 5k at SCG Con Philly. Mapson discusses his run with the breakout Modern deck of the weekend. Billy did stuff too but...eh...

    SCG Philadelphia Visitor's Guide - Ep. 173

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2024 51:41


    Alex and Billy discuss the hometown SCG event in their backyard. They discuss layouts, phone receptions, food options. Basically like the Sims, except with tournaments, vendors, and people staring at cardboard they can't afford but will stare at regardless. There's a history lesson.. we basically crush it. Enjoy!

    The Fallout of Triumph - Ep. 172

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2024 76:48


    Alex and Billy discuss the distribution of W40 cards on MTGO, the origin of the band Fallout Boy, and talk about why PIP is Rad.

    From Denver, With Guildpacts - Ep. 171

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2024 61:56


    Denver is done. Players are qualified. Data is abound. Billy and Alex look over the in flux of information, discuss how Denver was in the room, and what MKM card was cracking the top tables all weekend!

    Modern from Hartford to Denver - Ep. 170

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2024 61:35


    Friend of the show Alex Smith returns to fill in for an absent Mapson. Billy and Alex discuss the results of SCG Hartford and explore different options leading into RC Denver this coming weekend.

    Suspects and Culprits - Ep. 169

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2024 78:47


    Billy and Mapson discuss Mapson's travel plans and potential Modern decks, what list Billy has been dominating with on MTGO, and try out a new format for a set review of Murders at Karlov Manor.

    Showcasing the Showcase - Ep. 168

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2024 77:49


    Billy and Mapson break down this past weekend's Legacy Showcase Challenge. After Billy figures out the show notes, the hosts discuss what is the best Chalice deck, the many flavors of Grief, and what Mapson played for the event. Check out our sponsor Heavy Play! Use our code DARKDEPTHS10 for 10% off your order! Go to heavyplay.com today!

    Magical Moments with Gavin Verhey - Ep. 167

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2024 56:08


    Mapson welcomes Gavin Verhey, Senior Game and Product Developer for Wizards of the Coast, to discuss Universes Beyond, how game design has adapted over the past year, and how players can better cultivate their communities.

    Exercises and Rain Delays - Ep. 166

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2024 56:46


    Billy and Mapson were taken a bit off course by a storm but have manage to make it to the show in almost pristine condition. Billy defends a thought experiment and the hosts debate the merits of brewing and knowing when to hang it up.

    2024 Modern Landscape - Ep. 165

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2024 55:18


    Billy and Mapson are reunited are prepared to talk about Eternal Weekend, what sounds a rhino makes, and what Lord of the Rings card Mapson doesn't think lives up to the hype.

    Mulligan Management - Ep. 164

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2023 51:02


    Billy discusses some selected hands to discuss how deck choice, strategy, and circumstance affects your mulligan choices. MTGO Announcements - https://www.mtgo.com/news/mtgo-blog-12192023 The hands - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A3GuDoPNAwUqtrvpgVKumVqwC-ZY89YI9K3mZpJcXqU/edit?usp=sharing

    The Triumph of TK with TK Strachan - Ep. 163

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2023 71:17


    The champ is here! Hear the thoughts of your current NA Legacy Eternal Weekend champion. We laugh, we cry, we incite train violence. Reach out to TK - https://twitter.com/TriumphofTK Rewatch the magic of EW NA - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPCNEKq4EPN6tcl6zopb1ww

    Farewell Fury, Bye-bye Beans! - Ep. 162

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2023 46:18


    As we approach Eternal Weekend North America, the hosts take some time to reflect on how the banning of Fury and Up the Beanstalk will affect the Modern format. They also complain about snail mail, Mapson corrects Billy on Pittsburgh cuisine, and Billy guesses the city's nicknames. December 4 B&R - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/december-4-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement

    Impossible Level Magic Quiz - Ep. 161

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2023 76:45


    This episode is packed from start to finish with Legacy content as we ramp up to Eternal Weekend NA in two weeks. Listen to the hosts struggle to remember obscure sideboard cards and explain their thoughts on why Temur Delver is overrepresented.

    Eternal Weekend Warm-up - Ep. 160

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2023 71:02


    Mapson is back from the Steel City and ready to dish about his triple-format weekend, what looks good on the Eternal Weekend NA schedule, and what could be a surprise option for EW Europe this weekend!

    Hero's (Short-lived) Reunion - Ep. 159

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2023 22:09


    Billy and Mapson are back. Kinda. Billy has some technical issues so you'll hear just him. Then just Mapson. But Billy's there but then he's not. It's confusing. Mapson will be at SCG Pittsburgh. Listen to his thoughts on Modern and Legacy. Check out our merch over at Bonfire! The threads have looked amazing and we're happy that our listeners are enjoying them too! https://www.bonfire.com/store/dark-depths-podcast/?utm_source=copy_link&utm_medium=store_page_share&utm_campaign=dark-depths-podcast&utm_content=default

    Role for Initiative with Sahar Mirhadi - Ep. 158

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2023 75:29


    Mapson is joined this week by fellow Initiative enthusiast, host of The Legacy Gambit, and founder of the European Legacy Masters, Sahar Mirhadi. They talk about all things RW Initiative, from card choices to the person who put the deck into Mapson's focus. You can follow Sahar all over social media - https://linktr.ee/saharmirhadi Check out the Legacy Gambit! https://twitter.com/TheLegacyGambit https://www.youtube.com/@TheLegacyGambit You can also find links for the European Legacy Masters - https://linktr.ee/europeanlegacymasters

    Making the Most Out of Bean Alive! - Ep. 157

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2023 56:55


    Billy and Mapson discuss the lack of bannings, why they are optimistic for Modern's future, and why they won't be playing the Legacy Showcase this weekend. Check out our Bonfire store! https://www.bonfire.com/store/dark-depths-podcast/

    What Gets the Axe? - Ep. 156

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2023 58:07


    If there's one thing Billy and Mapson know, it's how to dissect a ban list. This week, they discuss what is safe to return to Modern and what has to go, and what changes are needed in Legacy.

    Birds, Beans, and Brews - Ep. 155

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2023 63:28


    Okay, well there's birds. Like a lot of birds. And Scams and Beans, yeah, but seriously the birds are crazy! We've tried negotiating with them but they just get angry so I had to promise them top billing this episode and to showcase their new pilot for their Seinfeld-esque sitcom. It's awful but again, angry birds.

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