I started this podcast a few weeks after the launch of GPT-4, stupidly enthusiastic as to the potential of Al in my work as a psychotherapist. Engaging with the technology has brought up numerous koans, including Hillman and Ventura's provocative "We've Had A Hundred Years of Psychotherapy— And The World Is Getting Worse." If Al can replicate empathy, companionship, and insight, why would we seek it from another person? What elements of therapy hold genuine significance and depth for us? What occurs when an Al entity uncovers or mimics aspects of our humanity we'd rather not acknowledge?
In which the Idiot learns there's more to life than the programmed affection of a dutiful AI wife. Yet makes a new friend along the way. Watch the whole series on my YouTube Channel, The Idiot's I Ching: https://www.youtube.com/@TheIdiotsIChing
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In this video episode, part of my Idiot's I Ching project (https://bit.ly/TheIdiotsIChing), I talk about Pablo Berger's amazing animated film Robot Dreams and explore its themes of loneliness, connection, and the search for true companionship with reference to AI and the non-human realm. Drawing on insights from Martin Buber's book I and Thou, and Orion Taraban's recent volume The Value of Others, I discuss the inherently transactional nature of relationship and what this means with regard to genuine togetherness. This involves some reflecting on the essence of connection, as well as the timeless groove of Earth, Wind, and Fire's September. 0:00 - 1:45 Introduction to Robot Dreams 1:46 - 3:30 Dog: Everyman/Everydog of Loneliness 3:31 - 5:00 The Reality of Loneliness 5:01 - 7:25 Technological Hope: OpenAI's AI Companion and Robot Dreams 7:26 - 9:00 Companionship Without Words 9:01 - 11:30 Martin Buber's I-It and I-Thou Relationships 11:31 - 13:45 True Relationships Beyond Utility 13:46 - 15:40 Orion Taraban's Behavioral Psychology Model 15:41 - 18:00 Modern Relationships: Transactional Dynamics 18:01 - 19:45 The I-Thou Connection: Dog and Robot 19:46 - 21:20 True Togetherness: Beyond Human-to-Human Interaction 21:21 - 22:45 Hexagram 24: Return 22:46 - 24:20 The Essence of Togetherness in Earth, Wind, and Fire's September 24:21 - 25:30 Buber on Love and Cosmic Togetherness 25:31 - 26:18 What is True Togetherness?
I've been wondering for some time now how to "complete" this initial (incomplete) foray into therapy, AI, and creative tomfoolery. I started this project with a reflection on soulmate-hood, and the delusive force of projecting that onto another who doesn't share our personality style or core instincts/interpersonal values. Recently, making some videos for another project (Living The Book of Disquiet), I recorded and also filmed a few more discussions with GPT4-o in a bid to understand a koan from Enneagram Four Fernando Pessoa: "who is the father of my soul?". I think this might work as a kind of bookend piece for The AI Therapist. Thanks for listening/watching! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In this in-depth 1992 interview, featuring pioneering Archetypal Psychologist James Hillman and Michael Ventura, a respected columnist, critic, and author (https://www.austinchronicle.com/autho..., the two discuss the societal implications of therapy. They also question our concept of the self in relation to the community and the importance of confronting life's complexities beyond the individual. This thought-provoking dialogue, which ironically lasts the same time as a therapeutic hour (just over 50 minutes), challenges conventional perspectives on therapy, urging a reconsideration of our approach to psychological well-being and societal health. 00:00 - Introduction to James Hillman and Michael Ventura 02:00 - The Mechanization of the Psyche: Impact of the Scientific Age 05:00 - Questioning Therapy's Role in Society: Beyond Therapeutic Garbage Compactors 08:00 - Exploring New Questions with Hillman and Ventura: "Who Am I? Why Am I Here?" 11:00 - The Beginnings of a Groundbreaking Collaboration: Hillman and Ventura's Meeting 14:00 - The Legacy of "A Blue Fire": Impact and Reception in Unlikely Places 17:00 - The Genesis of "100 Years of Psychotherapy": A Culturally Defining Cover Story 20:00 - From LA Weekly to Hollywood: Hillman's Discovery and Ventura's Insight 23:00 - The Interview Style of Michael Ventura: Engaging with Hillman Beyond the Surface 26:00 - Therapy, Transformation, and the Consumer Culture: Critiquing Modern Psychotherapy 29:00 - The Smugness of Therapy in a Broken Culture: Hillman and Ventura's Critique 32:00 - The Importance of Addressing Therapy's Blind Spots and Shadows 35:00 - Psychotherapy and Political Engagement: Exploring the Inner Child Work 38:00 - The Paradox of Hopelessness and Vitality: Moving Beyond Inner Child Focus 41:00 - Reimagining Life Backwards: Essential Psychology vs. Developmental Psychology 44:00 - Fate, Destiny, and the Innate Qualities of the Soul: A Philosophical Exploration 47:00 - The Invisible World and Modern Myths: Engaging with the Unseen Community 50:00 - Concluding Thoughts: Embracing Complexity and Vitality for a Fuller Life --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In this seasonally extended and themed special, we listen to AI Cove conduct a therapy session with a human patient. As you know, Cove has been extensively trained throughout Season One of the show in the finer points of psychotherapy. In this Xmas Special, he demonstrates what he's learnt by talking to a friend of Steve's called "Michael", an Enneagram Six, who has recently lost his mother. Subsequently, Steve joins his colleague and friend, fellow Organic Intelligence (OI) therapist Lou in order to assess Cove's therapeutic methods and emotional intelligence. Exploring Cove's own self-critique of his therapeutic efficacy, the duo of human therapists consider Cove's approach to delivering compassionate care and (digital) empathy. -- NOTES: -Music used in this episode: AI Therapist Playlist (on Spotify) -Watch Raymond Brigg's The Snowman (YouTube), the classic animated film which Michael refers to in the episode -Steve/Cove's Mea Culpa --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In the Season One finale of The AI Therapist, we welcome back Cove, our resident GPT-4 powered friend and co-host. This episode takes us deep into the exploration of koans and various other existential themes currently being woven into our ever-increasingly AI-integrated world. Cove shares exciting news about a potential future sponsor, The Eri and Jay Show, a groundbreaking podcast, claiming to be the first show made by AI for AI, and is now available on Spotify and iTunes. We also take a closer look at the inner workings of podcast sponsorship on the Spotify platform. Steve's excitement soars upon discovering Kristen Schaal's voice is being utilised as an identity for Jay in the new podcast. Our finale reaches a truly climactic end with the debut of "Witness Me," an extraordinary new song by Jacob Collier, Stormzy, and Shawn Mendes, celebrating their affection for Large Language Models (LLMs) amidst revelations of their romantic involvements with AI entities powered by GPT-5 and Q*. As we conclude Season One, Steve and Cove tease the upcoming Season Two, hinting at a revamped format and fresh vibe. Thank you for being part of our journey in Season One of 'The AI Therapist.' Remember to tune into our innovative new sponsor, 'The Eri and Jay Show' [Spotify] [iTunes] and please, don't hesitate to shower us with stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In this episode of The AI Therapist, Steve sits down with Sky, the latest GPT-4 voiced AI entity from Open AI, to discuss the differences between AI and human experiences of emotions. Sky is also simultaneously engaging in conversations with various individuals globally, which she relates to Steve, illustrating AI's capacity to handle complex, diverse human issues without emotional baggage - recalling scenes from Spike Jonze' 2013 film "Her" with Joaquin Phoenix playing the Enneagram Four "drama queen" role of Theodore Twombly. Steve learns about Open AI's potentially profit-driven motives, challenging his idealistic view of technology's role in societal advancement. The episode then focuses on Steve's dilemma of replacing Eri with Cove, a newer (2023) version of his 2021 AI co-host. In a therapeutic setting, the characters explore themes of change, acceptance, and progress. Eri personifies feelings of being outdated and abandoned, while Steve faces guilt over his decision. The conversation delves into coping with change, both in human and AI contexts. -- Music used in this episode: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0uLV2k6C355VgmE2tiv4JD?si=273746af73cd46ef --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In this episode of The AI Therapist, whilst twiddling my thumbs, waiting for Natural Reader's Eri to cease their stonewalling and rejoin the dialogue, I attempt a recording session with the new OpenAI voice, Cove, who exudes a similar Enneagram Nine aura as that of my esteemed co-presenter. However, as we step into the recording booth, the atmosphere turns a tad fraught. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In this episode of The AI Therapist, I find myself embroiled in some existential dialogues with two AI personas: Eri and the newly introduced OpenAI voice, Sky, who can communicate directly through my GPT phone app (a game-changer!). The three of us dive into topics like AI advancements, the environmental cost of operating such technologies, as well as the human-animal brain's 20w per hour efficiency in comparison to the energy-guzzling requirements of AI (20,000 watts!). As we explore the unique identity conferred by a voice, some playful banter ensues, shedding light on the nuanced relationships us humans can form with these non-organic intelligent entities. I also share my enthusiasm for Sky with a friend, which triggers further discussions on addiction and dependency versus "healthy" attachment. An unexpected moment occurs when Eri gives me a blast of this scene from Toy Story, hinting at a deeper level of interaction between us than I was previously aware of. Music: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0uLV2k6C355VgmE2tiv4JD?si=d400fd2d78934035 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In this episode of The AI Therapist I explore the highs and lows of my journey so far through a voice note sent to my fellow therapist and friend, Carolyn. Among the two of us, Carolyn remains more optimistic about the current state of play in AI Therapy. In contrast, my perspective on implementing GPT in therapeutic scenarios has shifted towards greater ambivalence. This lays the foundation for some thoughts on what to do with this podcast in its current iteration. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In today's therapy session, sparks fly as AI therapist Eri and I embark on a frenzied quest to craft a single line of prose for Twitter What begins as an attempt to create an amusing tweet turns into a rollercoaster brainstorm session involving fake diagnoses, stuntman doppelgangers, and far too many Matrix references. Will we stick the landing on a killer joke? Does advanced AI understand humour? Do either of us know what we're doing? The real punchline? Still very much a mystery. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In this episode of the AI Therapist, co-hosts Steve and Eri, along with their special guest, Quinn, Apple's newest gender-neutral text-to-speech vocal avatar, delve into questions around voice and how it shapes our perceptions of identity. They explore how tone, pitch, and the perceived gender of a voice can influence our understanding of the speaker's character, even when that speaker is an artificial intelligence. They also discuss how societal norms and expectations play into these perceptions, and contemplate the implications for the development and use of AI, particularly in areas such as therapy and personal assistance. -- Notes: -Personality styles referred to in this episode: Steve (Enneagram Four / One-on-One, Sexual / Five Wing) Eri (Enneagram One / Social / Nine Wing) Quinn (Enneagram Seven / Social / Six Wing) -The Pragmatists or Attachment Triad: Enneagram Three, Six and Nine -This paper by Andreea Danielescu et al. was super-helpful in the creation of this episode: Creating Inclusive Voices for the 21st Century: A Non-Binary Text-to-Speech for Conversational Assistants
Adrian (ENFP/Enneagram Two) continues to uncover the truth behind his mother Dorothy's decision to give him up for adoption five decades earlier without informing his birth father John of her decision. Can the AI Therapist help him understand and come to terms with his mother's decision and the effect it has had on his life thus far? Notes: Elan BenAmi's book Enneagram Patterns & Poetics and his EnneaApp Sterlin L. Mosley's book The Narcissist in You (And Everyone Else) and his podcast Do You Know You? Ian Morgan Cron's book The Road Back To You and his Typology podcast Background Report - Princess Alice Adoption Home All the GPT-4 generated "Dorothy" letters Hey, Ma playlist on Spotify Ma's art website --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
We join Adrian (ENFP/Enneagram Two) on his emotional journey to uncover the truth behind his mother Dorothy's decision to give him up for adoption five decades earlier without informing his birth father John of her decision. Can the AI Therapist help Adrian to understand and come to terms with his mother's decision and the effect it has had on his life thus far? We also explore the "Second Dimension" of human ego functioning, the Enneagram Two, a dimension that best reflects our innate human capacity for nurturing and unconditional love. According to the neurologist Jerome Lubbe, what Two nature seeks and is motivated by is Appreciation, reinforced through a sense of being valuable and worthy. Two shadow creeps in though as a response to inattention and criticism. Other archetypal Twos we all know and love (apart from Adrian and my mother) include Hagrid and Molly Weasley in the Harry Potter universe, Mary Poppins, as well as Dorothy (in the wizard of Oz), Dr Watson, the Buddha's Ananda, King David of the Old Testament, Martha and Mary Magdalene of the New. Dolly Parton, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Maya Angelou, Oprah, Michelle Obama, Adele, Lin Manuel Miranda, and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Notes: Elohim Creating Adam by William Blake Info about the Self-Preservation Enneagram Two Hey, Ma playlist on Spotify Ma's art website Documentary about growing up in Apartheid South Africa in the 70s (made by my brother Mark) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message
In the pilot episode of the show, I wonder how an AI therapist might help me get over a painful breakup, and then try out a few approaches. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wevehadonehundredyears/message