The Outer Sanctum

When times are tough, we often look to the past for comfort. And while the shine tends to come off and the cracks start to appear as most things age, sometimes nostalgia for the good old days blurs our vision and skews our memory. That's because nostalgia makes you feel something – it moves you. It makes you feel warm and fuzzy. It makes you spend your money and it demands your attention. But, it can also be another type of gatekeeping. It can trigger you and when we canonise or idolise nostalgic moments it can hold us back from progress. Today, we lie down on the Sanctum's therapy couch and revisit the nostalgic moments that informed the young football fan inside of us. It's an attempt to leave things in the past – which is exactly where they belong – so we can cherish in its place the moment we are in right now. With special guests Nicole Hayes and Her Excellency the Honourable Ms Sam Mostyn AC.With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In February 2016, the eight-team AFLW competition was announced to the media, with 240 players putting on the boots for season one. Today, heading into the eighth year of the competition with 540 players, we're starting to gain a better understanding of what it is to be an AFLW player. But, the stories are as diverse as the players – both past and present – and in this episode, Emma, Lucy and Julia deep dive into the experiences of players of different eras. From game one, round one, to the growing competition we follow today, special guests Kirby Bentley, Daisy Pearce and Jenna Richardson sit down to share their experiences as AFLW players both on and off the ground.Read the AFL Players Association's Insights and Impacts Report here.With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As expected, the Olympics raised many discussion points around human rights in sport, but it isn't just global sports where human rights are part of the discourse: footy has been having this very conversation, too.So today, we ask what are the issues that are relevant to this provincial game of Australian Rules Football? And what kind of framework can help us work our way through them.Emma, Lucy, and Julia are joined by special guests Professor Kate Seear and Rana Hussain – who are on the ground in Paris – to explore the complex history of human rights in sport and an athlete's right to their own voice, mind and body.With thanks to the AFL Players Association.Listen to the conversation between Julia Chiera and Rana Hussain referenced in this episode here.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Can organisations change? In 2019 there was a fracture between the playing group and the organisation that represented them, the AFLPA. Today the relationship is in an entirely different place. So how did they get there? We handed over the mics to two of the key players in that dispute, Paul Marsh and Darcy Vescio, in a Sanctum version of You Can't Ask That. With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Olympics fever has hit the world and Paris has us enthralled. But beyond the dazzle of the Eiffel Tower, is a sporting competition that has subconsciously informed the way we understand why sport exists, and why athletes compete. So, are Olympians athletes or professionals? How should they be compensated for committing themselves to their crafts and representing their countries? How does the power of broadcast and storytelling intersect with the games? And is the gratitude and glory enough to substitute payment? Emma, Lucy and Julia question all of this and more with an expert panel in Tess Armstrong, Kylie Watson-Wheeler, Chloe Dalton and Paul Marsh. With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What does it mean to belong? How do we ensure people feel at home in the AFLW community as the game continues to grow? From Beyonce to global sporting examples, Emma, Lucy and Julia are joined by special guests Dr Kasey Symonds, Rana Hussain, Kirby Bentley and Shaun Harvey to discuss how we foster a sense of belonging, and why it matters.With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

While we were MIA from podland, there were some significant sport meets culture moments that were VERY The Sanctum. What is the connection between Taylor and the Tillies? Can art inform our conversations about sport? Here, Emma, Lucy and Julia are joined by special guests Dr Kasey Symons, Georgie Tunny, and Shaun Harvey to look at fandom culture from all angles.With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How is your relationship with AFLW footy? What keeps us interested in long term relationships? Emma, Lucy and Julia are joined by special guests Daisy Pearce and Rana Hussain to interrogate where their relationships with the code are currently sitting. Plus, they talk fixtures, distractions as a weapon and the changes to sport globally.With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With the AFLW season around the corner, The Outer Sanctum is back. Across eight episodes, we'll discuss the key topics that have kept us busy in the group chats. You'll hear from some familiar voices as well as some new ones and we cannot wait to be back in your ears - for a good time, not a long time - from this Thursday!With thanks to the AFL Players Association.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We say goodbye to footy for 2022 and celebrate a remarkable premiership win for Daisy and her Demons. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Emma, Rana, and Nicole celebrate AFLW season seven and look ahead to an exciting Grand Final between the Lions and the Demons. Plus: the team discuss the the quirks of AFLW they never want to see the back of. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The AFLW finals series is offering up some sweet treats. Emma, Rana and Lucy shared their highlights, and discussed their reaction to extra rounds in the AFLM, the ongoing floating fixture for AFLW, and a new betting scandal. We mentioned a few articles on gambling:This article calling for more to be done to protect young Australians from sports bettingA survey of club leaders found that almost three quarters think the amount of gambling advertising in footy is excessive Voters want gambling banned from sports sponsorship You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week Emma and Lucy share their Monday morning - and afternoon - phone calls as they debrief the finals and the questions around AFLW fixturing. They mention:AFLW: Lessons learned from switched seasonsYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week Tess, Lucy and Nic discuss the increasing number of athletes finding their political voices, and the role of sponsorship in sport. We review - in true Sanctum style - the AFLW teams whose seasons have ended, and turn to Siren co-founder and commentator extraordinaire, Gemma Bastiani, for her tips for the first week of the finals.We mentioned:This article about Roxy Roux and her mum Gail Kinsell - watch the video! Vince Rugari spoke to Jackson Irvine about the Socceroos' remarkable statement ahead of the World CupMarnie Vinall wrote about the sport/politics debateYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Outer Sanctum went on a footy trip... enjoy! You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For two decades Shane McCurry has worked with the biggest names across high performance sport, business, government and education. His practice is dedicated to helping individuals, teams and organisations grow and thrive through a values-based approach focussed on purpose, connection and storytelling. In this extended chat, Rana and Shane talk about what makes culture, the future of sport leadership and the power of storytelling.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Round 8 of the AFLW delivered on and off the field with fantastic contests, milestone moments and celebrations of Pride around the country. Meanwhile, AFLM continued to deliver pure drama and Emma, Lucy and Tess analysed the surprise sacking of Brett Ratten from St Kilda through the lens of the small screen. Plus: Rana catches up with culture consultant Shane McCurry. Find out about Shane's work here.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As we close off AFLW Round 7, Emma, Lucy, Shelley and Nic talk about Pride Round, and how far we've come since the first Hampson-Hardeman Cup. We tackle recent developments at Essendon, including issues around boardroom governance, the insularity of clubland, and the fraught notion of “culture wars”. Plus, Period Watch.We mentioned the latest episode of Chicks Talking Footy - listen to their excellent show here. You can also find out more about the work of Jason Tuazon-McCheyne and the Purple Bombers here.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

From the first ever Showdown to epic battles and brilliant comebacks, the AFLW served up more highlights than you can poke a stick at – not that Steve Price would have noticed. Emma, Nic and Tess talk about unhelpful media commentary, ways and means of speaking out, and what happens when you think you're bigger than the game. Plus, Lucy speaks to AFLW Cats captain, Meg McDonald and we celebrate Australian basketball's GOAT, Lauren Jackson.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The AFLM grand final returned to the MCG for the first time in three years. Robbie Williams' fuchsia suit almost stole the show, but it was Joel Selwood and his Cats that got the cream. Plus, we consider the serious allegations made against former officials at the Hawthorn football club, in a seismic week for footy that has once again raised complex questions about football's relationship with race.Some of the articles/programs mentioned this week: Caroline Wilson's article in The Age plus this piece from Mathew Stokes The Ticket podcast hosted by Tracey HolmesOffsiders featuring Charlie KingMelbourne's Sabreena Duffy is raising money and awareness about kids in care - find out more hereYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sometimes a good old point is all you need. After a big weekend of AFLW, AFLM prelims, and the Brownlow Medal, Emma, Lucy and Tess had lots to talk about. Plus: Rana catches up with North Melbourne President, Dr Sonja Hood.We mentioned Daisy Pearce speaking on SEN, it's well worth listening to the whole piece here.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was a momentous week in world history, with the death of Queen Elizabeth II. Coinciding with the AFLW's Indigenous round, questions arose about how we mourn, memorialise and confront complex histories. This week, Kate, Rana and Shelley explore these issues. In the spirit of Indigenous round, we also celebrate Indigenous language, culture and practices from around the grounds, and offer our tips for who will play in the men's grand final.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the aftermath of our live show supported by Swinburne University, for Social Sciences Week, we dissect a massive week of footy, which saw four electrifying AFLM finals and a terrific display of AFLW, marred by injuries. We consider the legacy of Serena Williams, who has announced she's evolving away from tennis. Is she the GOAT? And by what criteria?You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

Footy is back! We reflect on an her-storic weekend of footy where the competition finally became whole, with all 18 clubs now fielding a women's team. We also discuss trailblazers, and the importance of visibility and recognition of our past, both regarding women in sport and when it comes to confronting Australia's colonial past.REMINDER: We are hosting a live event next week! It's free & we can't wait to see you. Register here.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the pointy end of the M and the W is just about to start so Emma, Tess and Lucy got together to share all their big feelings. They were joined by Kelli Underwood, to preview AFLW Season 7, and Akec Makur Chuot, to talk about life as a Hawk.The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Nic, Julia and Shelley discuss the continuing fallout from Adelaide's 2018 pre-season camp following revelations from Eddie Betts and Josh Jenkins, unpacking notions of secret keeping, toxic masculinity, and the dangers of “bush psychology”. Rana talks with eSafety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, about the commission's work with the AFL in reducing online abuse and raising awareness of reporting options.Show notesYou heard part of Josh Jenkins' statement - read and listen back to the whole thing hereHere's how Mark Ricciuto responded to Eddie Betts' bookFind out more about the eSafety Commissioner's work with the AFL and the #PlayItFairOnline campaignThe song at the end of the episode is Colour Of Your Jumper by Archie RoachYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The top eight is starting to take shape and there is as much going on off-field as there is on the ground. Emma, Lucy and Rana discuss how genuine cultural change takes more work than performative gestures, how sponsorship can undercut other club values, and what might derail Tasmania's bid for an AFL licence. And how will you share the love between AFLW teams? Rana has some great tips to help navigate polyamorous waters.Show notesRead Samantha Lewis' excellent piece on the Manly jumper storyBen Abbatangelo wrote about how to give slogans more meaningA new hurdle for a Tasmanian licence Rana and Julia had an incredible chat about pride jumpers and religion earlier this year - listen back to that hereReminder: we have a live event coming up and we would absolutely love to see your faces. Tickets are free but you must register so head on over and book hereYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

After a thrilling weekend of footy, Emma, Lucy and Tess debate what makes a person 'clutch', whether Jack Ginnivan is being unfairly targeted and what the appropriate vessel would be for the grand final parade on the Yarra River. Plus: animals at the footy and a VERY special announcement. Show notesWe mentioned the Dollop podcast (which is hilarious). The small clip we played came from this episode.You heard correctly - we have a live event coming up. We would love to see your faces so find out more and book your spot here.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It's been a huge week in the west, with a new mascot joining the manor. We welcome them into the fold and critically assess the fashion prowess of three of their counterparts. Going around the grounds, we venture to Jurassic Park, where clickbait culture treats women's accomplishments as fodder for gossip and derision, and old-fashioned masculinities as the idealised norm.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Four new teams are joining the AFLW in season seven so let's get to know the coaches.Lauren Arnell is the coach of the inaugural Port Adelaide AFLW team. She caught up with Julia Chiera and spoke about her appointment to the senior role, what she's discovered about the footy world and herself along her three state footy journey and the importance of mentorship. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Four new teams are joining the AFLW in season seven so let's get to know the coaches.Lucy speaks to Sydney Swans AFLW head coach Scott Gowans. He talks about the role club culture played in his move to the Swans, his approach to building the list and development pathways on and off the field. They also speak about rivalries, and raise the idea of some new competition in unexpected areas. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Four new teams are joining the AFLW in season seven so let's get to know the coaches.Julia catches up with the coach of the inaugural Essendon team, Natalie Wood. She talks about her playing and coaching journey, how to rally a brand new team, building an impressive list and her hopes for a big round one match up. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Four new teams are joining the AFLW in season seven so let's get to know the coaches. First, Emma catches up with Bec Goddard. Bec is no stranger to the Outer Sanctum and to women's footy, having coached Adelaide to a premiership in AFLW season one. She's back and this time she's coaching at Hawthorn, the club she grew up loving. She tells us about her memories of Waverley Park, her development and her hopes for the Hawks.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Tess, Julia and Kate ask what the fight between Melbourne players says about masculinity, mental health and club culture, and consider the debate around the AFL's illicit drug policy, with guidance from Dr Annie Madden AO. Plus we offer up a special edition of omen watch and ask which footy song you'd bring back if you had the chance. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Emma, Julia and Rana look ahead to a seventh AFLW season and unpack the fast evolution of the league. In a game of Kiss, Marry, Dump, the team consider what they love about the competition and what they're happy to let go of. Plus, AFLW powerhouse Isabel Huntington talks about her new appointment to the AFLPA board, her life outside footy and a potential future in sports administration.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week, as debate raged about who should take responsibility for the welfare of retired footballers, yet another mass shooting in the United States saw sporting figures and clubs taking matters into their own hands. Over at Wimbledon, we ask if the call for athletes to use their platform can go too far. Player movements are afoot in the AFLW with expansion signings, the draft and trade period. And we chat to Chelsea Roffey about the state of umpiring.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

There's a new CBA for AFLW Season 7 and there's a lot to celebrate about it. Rana caught up with Paul Marsh from the AFLPA to discuss how the deal was done. And following the election we ponder the parallels between politics and sport, what we can learn from the success of the independents and do we need footy's first referendum?You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In the lead-up to the Sir Doug Nicholls Round, we reflect on its power and significance. We unpack the recent debate about aggression in footy, and consider current interpretations of the 50m penalty. Finally, we talk to Collingwood AFLW star, Sabrina Frederick, about the impact the uncertainty surrounding the CBA and Season 7 is having on players and their families.SHOW NOTESLauren Wood on where the AFLW negotiations are at Cheryl Critchley argued passionately for our grand final to stay in the dayNeale Daniher 'loses voice, but not spirit in MND fight'You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It's been a huge week in international politics, with the rights of pregnant people coming under renewed attack in the USA. What will this development mean for sport? Closer to home, with an election looming, we consider election omens and make our own pitches for your vote. Plus, player privacy, an update on AFLW, and a new report into umpire abuse. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week Nicole talks to multi award winning journalist Russell Jackson about the work he's doing to give a voice to survivors of historical cases of child sexual abuse at some of our biggest and most beloved sporting clubs. CONTENT WARNING: This episode tackles difficult and sensitive issues including child sexual abuse and violence against children. If you or someone you know needs help or to talk: Lifeline - 13 11 14 Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800 Beyond Blue - 1300 22 4636 1800 Respect - 1800 737 732 MensLine Australia - 1300 789 978 The most recent piece Russell and Nicole discuss is Adam's story. You can read the rest of Russell Jackson's work here. You can follow him on twitter here.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

With the announcement that AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan will leave the role at the end of the season, we do a temperature check on our relationship with footy and discuss what his legacy will be. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

As we refresh and unwind after the AFLW season, take a listen back to some of the great conversations we've had this year. If you missed it, Rana wrote an excellent piece in The Age about the end of the Gillon McLachlan era and what leadership the AFL might look to going forward. Read it here.Links to the full episodes from this week here:Craig Starcevich and Trent CooperHayley Miller Michael Wilson Brodie Grundy Liam ElphickYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

That's a wrap on AFLW season six. We celebrate the Crows big win, deal with breaking trade bombshells and ponder what comes next for the competition. Rana wrote about the Crows dynasty for the Guardian this week - read it here. You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It's the most wonderful time of the year - AFLW Grand Final week. To mark the occasion and unpack who will win and why, we're joined by two of the best footy brains in the business - AFLW coaches Craig Starcevich and Trent Cooper.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We're at the pointy end of the AFLW season, and as we count down to Saturday's Grand Final, we review the preliminary finals and preview what's to come. We reveal the inside word from the W awards, and consider the challenges of expansion and the trade season. In the melee we discuss allegations of racism from Cyril Rioli about his time at Hawthorn, and unpack some of the many issues raised. And we bid a sad farewell to women's footy giant, Ann Rulton. Vale Ann.Show notes:Read Nicole Hayes' piece in the Guardian this weekCelebrate Mick Stinear's 50th game as coach by reading Gemma Bastiani's insightsCraig Starcevich on how he really feels about expansionCyril and Shannon Rioli told their story to Caroline WilsonAnd here's how Hawthorn respondedYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week Lucy chats with Michael Willson, Chief Photographer for the AFL, about being on the SCG in the crowd to capture the incredible images when Lance Franklin kicked his 1000th goal. They talk about the anxiety, joy and privilege of working on the sidelines of the game he loves. And he shares his feelings about the images that have stayed with him, and those that got away.You can see some of Michael Willson's photography on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/michaelcwillson/You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week saw jubilant scenes at the SCG as Buddy kicked his 1000th goal, chaotic scenes at the MCG as a fire alarm triggered an evacuation, and joyful scenes at the GABBA as Brisbane sailed into the AFLW prelim. Off field, we turned to the Oscars, and while women's sport was being celebrated, an ableist "joke" and a violent response threatened to overshadow it all.Read what our Rana wrote about footy milestones this week in the GuardianWe mentioned:https://lens.monash.edu/@politics-society/2022/03/28/1384564/academy-awards-drama-chris-rock-and-will-smith-expose-all-thats-wrong-with-masculinity-today?fbclid=IwAR3HUmbAYU56NrErQaPjZvHxaTzPTncLSYBPGbcr9OjqC9suRNfkdiRgpichttps://lens.monash.edu/@politics-society/2022/03/28/1384564/academy-awards-drama-chris-rock-and-will-smith-expose-all-thats-wrong-with-masculinity-today?fbclid=IwAR3HUmbAYU56NrErQaPjZvHxaTzPTncLSYBPGbcr9OjqC9suRNfkdiRgpichttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-20/aflw-acl-injuries-women-men-gender-inequality-hormones-hips/100859924You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week Nicole catches up with Felice Arena, bestselling author of the popular Specky Magee kids' books. Specky is turning twenty and to celebrate, a 20th Anniversary edition has been released along with Felice's brand new kids' book, The Unstoppable Flying Flanagan – about the adventures of a young girl who loves her footy, even though it's war time 1942, and girls aren't allowed to play.You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The AFLM is back, and the AFLW finals are finally underway. An impressive Freo put an end to North Melbourne's season, but in an unexpected twist, a journalist became the biggest story of the week. We consider how we got here, and where we need to go next, in a week that challenged us all deeply.Further resources and reading:https://youtu.be/xYUthwfkmcAhttps://www.codesports.com.au/afl/underwood-female-broadcasters-should-not-be-publicly-humiliated-for-simply-doing-their-jobs/news-story/a68f48d617b289fae53491491d00137dhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/21/women-in-sports-media-are-exhausted-it-is-well-beyond-time-for-men-to-speak-uphttps://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/sexism-in-sports-media-a-man-behaves-badly-and-a-woman-pays-the-price-20220318-p5a5vd.html?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_sport_aflhttps://changeourgame.vic.gov.au/leadership-centre/flexible-sport-uniform-policies-keep-girls-in-the-gameYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It's Finals Eve for the AFLW so Lucy called footy analyst, Gemma Bastiani for some good old footy chat. Gemma previews the finals, reviews the season, and makes some predictions. Enjoy the great work of Gemma and other excellent women in sport over at Siren SportYou can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.comThe Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

As we farewell the home and away season, we take a look at the qualifying finals, and discuss the possibility of an August 2022 start for the next AFLW season -- the pros, the cons, and the whatabouts. We also discuss a recent global report which - in news that shocked no one - indicates Australian men have some of the most sexist views in the western world.For an in depth read on the August season debate, read our own Rana Hussain's take on it in the Guardian You can follow The Outer Sanctum on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Email us at theoutersanctumpodcast@outlook.com The Outer Sanctum is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we work, live, learn and play, and pay our respects to Indigenous Elders past and present. We recognise that sovereignty has never been ceded – that this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.