Unframed Podcast

Unframed — In this episode, I chat with Lucy MacGarry - independent curator, arts advisor and Co-Director of Latitudes Online: a new online marketplace for contemporary art from Africa. In September 2019, MacGarry launched Latitudes Art Fair at Sandton City with partners Roberta Coci, Makgati Molebatsi, Nokwazi Zimu and Anthea Buys. Prior to this she has held positions as - the Curator of the South African Pavilion at the Venice Biennale; Curator of the FNB Joburg Art Fair; Curator of the Spier, Nando's and Hollard Collections and Gallery Director of David Krut Projects. She holds a Masters from Wits and an Honours from UCT's Commerce Dept. Latitudes Online launched on 15 July 2020. Go check it out on latitudesartfair.com Enjoy my conversation with Lucy MacGarry.

In this episode, I chat with Lucy MacGarry - independent curator, arts advisor and Co-Director of Latitudes Online: a new online marketplace for contemporary art from Africa. In September 2019, MacGarry launched Latitudes Art Fair at Sandton City with partners Roberta Coci, Makgati Molebatsi, Nokwazi Zimu and Anthea Buys. Prior to this she has held positions as - the Curator of the South African Pavilion at the Venice Biennale; Curator of the FNB Joburg Art Fair; Curator of the Spier, Nando's and Hollard Collections and Gallery Director of David Krut Projects. She holds a Masters from Wits and an Honours from UCT's Commerce Dept. Latitudes Online launched on 15 July 2020. Go check it out on latitudesartfair.com Enjoy my conversation with Lucy MacGarry.

Unframed — In this episode, I chat with new media artist and independent curator Brooklyn J. Pakathi. Brooklyn J explores the relationships we manifest with technologies, and through his practice, examines the formations of, enactments with and responses to those manifestations. Working within the fields of mixed realities at Johannesburg's TMRW, his practice merges into the collaborative nature of contemporary art-making centred around the use and inclusion of digital tools. TMRW is a gallery space currently in Keyes Art Mile in Johannesburg and also, as The Mixed Reality Workshop, is a multidisciplinary arts and technology space that engages with the creation, development, production and dissemination of mixed reality art experience. TMRW currently has two virtual exhibitions on, which have emerged as a necessity during this COVID19 pandemic and national lockdown. View the exhibitions here: Refiguring Space: https://nationalartsfestival.co.za/show/refiguring-space-exhibition/ Coexistence: https://tmrw.art/coexistence Enjoy listening to my conversation with Brooklyn J. Pakathi and follow @brook_flowers on all social platforms.

In this episode, I chat with new media artist and independent curator Brooklyn J. Pakathi. Brooklyn J explores the relationships we manifest with technologies, and through his practice, examines the formations of, enactments with and responses to those manifestations. Working within the fields of mixed realities at Johannesburg's TMRW, his practice merges into the collaborative nature of contemporary art-making centred around the use and inclusion of digital tools. TMRW is a gallery space currently in Keyes Art Mile in Johannesburg and also, as The Mixed Reality Workshop, is a multidisciplinary arts and technology space that engages with the creation, development, production and dissemination of mixed reality art experience. TMRW currently has two virtual exhibitions on, which have emerged as a necessity during this COVID19 pandemic and national lockdown. View the exhibitions here: Refiguring Space: https://nationalartsfestival.co.za/show/refiguring-space-exhibition/ Coexistence: https://tmrw.art/coexistence Enjoy listening to my conversation with Brooklyn J. Pakathi and follow @brook_flowers on all social platforms.

Unframed — In this episode, we listen to an online panel discussion hosted by VANSA, the Visual Arts Network of South Africa. At the beginning of June, VANSA hosted an online dialogue with arts practitioners whose practices span various disciplines. They shared their thoughts and experiences of this moment, their reflections on navigating precarity, how they are surviving creatively, and what new or different possibilities exist for us as a visual arts sector. The panel was hosted by VANSA director Refilwe Nkomo @flokomo, with panelists: Naadira Patel (Artist | Researcher | Designer | Project Manager | Sessional Lecturer) @studiostudioworkwork Mika Conradie (Curator | Researcher | Project Manager) @soft_wave Masimba Sasa (Photographer | Filmmaker | Lecturer | Trainer) @masimbasasa Thato Mogotsi (Curator | Scholar | Lecturer | Trainer) @mogotsi.thato

In this episode, we listen to an online panel discussion hosted by VANSA, the Visual Arts Network of South Africa. At the beginning of June, VANSA hosted an online dialogue with arts practitioners whose practices span various disciplines. They shared their thoughts and experiences of this moment, their reflections on navigating precarity, how they are surviving creatively, and what new or different possibilities exist for us as a visual arts sector. The panel was hosted by VANSA director Refilwe Nkomo @flokomo, with panelists: Naadira Patel (Artist | Researcher | Designer | Project Manager | Sessional Lecturer) @studiostudioworkwork Mika Conradie (Curator | Researcher | Project Manager) @soft_wave Masimba Sasa (Photographer | Filmmaker | Lecturer | Trainer) @masimbasasa Thato Mogotsi (Curator | Scholar | Lecturer | Trainer) @mogotsi.thato

In this episode, I chat with Banele Khoza about his artistic and curatorial practice. This is the final episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. As we, in South Africa enter Level 3 of lockdown, we end this series but will continue producing content that keeps the art community connected and inspired. Banele Khoza (*1994) is a Swaziland-born and South African-based visual artist. He firstly enrolled at the London International School of Fashion in Johannesburg, but soon realized his passion was drawing. Khoza holds a BTechin Fine Arts from Tshwane University of Technology, Pretoria. In 2017 he won the prestigious Gerard Sekoto Award and with it a three-month residency at the CitéInternationale des Arts in Paris. His solo exhibitions include Temporary Feelings at the Pretoria Art Museum (2016); Lonely Nights at Lizamore Gallery(2017) LOVE? at Smith Studio in Cape Town (2018). Khoza also headlined the solo exhibition titled LGBTQI+: Banele Khoza as part of the Curatorial Lab at Zeitz MOCAA (2018). In 2018 he curated A Letter to my 22 Year Old Self, a group show presented to launch his fundraising activities which will give grants to art students dealing with economic hardship at SA universities. In 2019 Khoza opened `'Seeking Love`' a museum touring show around South Africa and has been awarded the M&G 200 Young South Africans. Khoza is the co-curator with Nicole Siegenthaler of Art Joburg: Gallery Lab. Enjoy listening to my conversation with Banele Khoza.

Unframed — In this episode, I chat with Banele Khoza about his artistic and curatorial practice. This is the final episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. As we, in South Africa enter Level 3 of lockdown, we end this series but will continue producing content that keeps the art community connected and inspired. Banele Khoza (*1994) is a Swaziland-born and South African-based visual artist. He firstly enrolled at the London International School of Fashion in Johannesburg, but soon realized his passion was drawing. Khoza holds a BTechin Fine Arts from Tshwane University of Technology, Pretoria. In 2017 he won the prestigious Gerard Sekoto Award and with it a three-month residency at the CitéInternationale des Arts in Paris. His solo exhibitions include Temporary Feelings at the Pretoria Art Museum (2016); Lonely Nights at Lizamore Gallery(2017) LOVE? at Smith Studio in Cape Town (2018). Khoza also headlined the solo exhibition titled LGBTQI+: Banele Khoza as part of the Curatorial Lab at Zeitz MOCAA (2018). In 2018 he curated A Letter to my 22 Year Old Self, a group show presented to launch his fundraising activities which will give grants to art students dealing with economic hardship at SA universities. In 2019 Khoza opened `'Seeking Love`' a museum touring show around South Africa and has been awarded the M&G 200 Young South Africans. Khoza is the co-curator with Nicole Siegenthaler of Art Joburg: Gallery Lab. Enjoy listening to my conversation with Banele Khoza.

In this episode, I chat with Carly Whitaker about her artistic, curatorial and research practice. This is the 6th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Carly Whitaker is an artist, curator, researcher and lecturer based in Johannesburg, South Africa. She holds a BA Fine Arts and a MA in Digital Interactive. She has participated in numerous exhibitions at art spaces in Johannesburg, Freiburg, Casablanca, Miami and Sao Paulo. Her curatorial projects include Floating Reverie, an online digital residency programme, which has been running for over five years and Blue Ocean an online digital project space. She is interested in the positioning of this as artistic research and investigating how artists can develop a practice online. Through her own practice she engages in a constant exploration of how we communicate through media and the ways we use technology to create dialogues, form connections between ourselves and the digital space. Carly is currently extending her practice and research into new areas with her PhD at the University of Reading (UK) with a focus on curating and networked methodologies in South Africa. Enjoy listening to my conversation with Carly Whitaker.

Unframed — In this episode, I chat with Carly Whitaker about her artistic, curatorial and research practice. This is the 6th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Carly Whitaker is an artist, curator, researcher and lecturer based in Johannesburg, South Africa. She holds a BA Fine Arts and a MA in Digital Interactive. She has participated in numerous exhibitions at art spaces in Johannesburg, Freiburg, Casablanca, Miami and Sao Paulo. Her curatorial projects include Floating Reverie, an online digital residency programme, which has been running for over five years and Blue Ocean an online digital project space. She is interested in the positioning of this as artistic research and investigating how artists can develop a practice online. Through her own practice she engages in a constant exploration of how we communicate through media and the ways we use technology to create dialogues, form connections between ourselves and the digital space. Carly is currently extending her practice and research into new areas with her PhD at the University of Reading (UK) with a focus on curating and networked methodologies in South Africa. Enjoy listening to my conversation with Carly Whitaker.

In this episode, I chat with Phumulani Ntuli about his artistic practice. This is the 5th episode in a series on Unframed called “Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Ntuli is a Johannesburg-based artist who holds BTech in Visual Arts from the University of Johannesburg. In 2017, he completed a Master in Fine Art – in the Public Sphere in Switzerland. Ntuli's work merges the ambit of artistic research, sculpture, video installations and performative practices, concerning the tensions between documentary and the archive, and fiction and imagined narratives.

Unframed — In this episode, I chat with Phumulani Ntuli about his artistic practice. This is the 5th episode in a series on Unframed called “Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Ntuli is a Johannesburg-based artist who holds BTech in Visual Arts from the University of Johannesburg. In 2017, he completed a Master in Fine Art – in the Public Sphere in Switzerland. Ntuli’s work merges the ambit of artistic research, sculpture, video installations and performative practices, concerning the tensions between documentary and the archive, and fiction and imagined narratives.

In this episode, I chat with Sandile Radebe about his artistic practice. This is the 4th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Sandile is a Johannesburg-based artist whose main area of interest is art practice in both public and private spaces. He explores these spaces through simulating a new reading of graffiti and, more broadly, the way language works to help construct our realities. Sandile visualised graffiti in abstract sculptural forms and creates installations with these forms to create labyrinthine structures akin to walking in the city.

Unframed — In this episode, I chat with Sandile Radebe about his artistic practice. This is the 4th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Sandile is a Johannesburg-based artist whose main area of interest is art practice in both public and private spaces. He explores these spaces through simulating a new reading of graffiti and, more broadly, the way language works to help construct our realities. Sandile visualised graffiti in abstract sculptural forms and creates installations with these forms to create labyrinthine structures akin to walking in the city.

In this episode, I chat with Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa about her artistic practice. This is the third episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa, born in Soweto in 1992, is a Johannesburg-based visual artist. She obtained a BA Fine arts degree in 2015 from the University of the Witwatersrand. After graduating, she became a recipient of a studio bursary at Assemblage Studios, funded by the African Arts Trust. Since that time she has been practicing as a full-time artist, and currently has a studio at August House in Johannesburg. Working in drawing, painting, sculpture, sound and video, her art practice is focussed on the subjective sublime experience of physical space, spacial voids, and how we engage with the idea of empty or other worldly spaces. Enjoy listening to my coversation with Grace.

Unframed — In this episode, I chat with Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa about her artistic practice. This is the third episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa, born in Soweto in 1992, is a Johannesburg-based visual artist. She obtained a BA Fine arts degree in 2015 from the University of the Witwatersrand. After graduating, she became a recipient of a studio bursary at Assemblage Studios, funded by the African Arts Trust. Since that time she has been practicing as a full-time artist, and currently has a studio at August House in Johannesburg. Working in drawing, painting, sculpture, sound and video, her art practice is focussed on the subjective sublime experience of physical space, spacial voids, and how we engage with the idea of empty or other worldly spaces. Enjoy listening to my coversation with Grace.

This is the second episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today's show, I chat with Chloë Reid about her artistic and curatorial practice. Chloë Reid is an artist from Johannesburg. She is interested in everyday sociology and the relationship between reading, writing and artistic practice. She holds degrees from the Michaelis School of Fine Art and the Glasgow School of Art and was awarded a year-long fellowship at the Glasgow Sculpture Studios in 2018. She has exhibited and curated locally and internationally and produced two collections of very short fiction. In 2019 she established gallery, gallery with the aim of developing an embodied framework for artists, writers and curators that foregrounds collaboration and exchange. She is currently pursuing an MA in Creative Writing at Wits.

Unframed — This is the second episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today’s show, I chat with Chloë Reid about her artistic and curatorial practice. Chloë Reid is an artist from Johannesburg. She is interested in everyday sociology and the relationship between reading, writing and artistic practice. She holds degrees from the Michaelis School of Fine Art and the Glasgow School of Art and was awarded a year-long fellowship at the Glasgow Sculpture Studios in 2018. She has exhibited and curated locally and internationally and produced two collections of very short fiction. In 2019 she established gallery, gallery with the aim of developing an embodied framework for artists, writers and curators that foregrounds collaboration and exchange. She is currently pursuing an MA in Creative Writing at Wits.

This is the first episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today's show, I chat with Io Makandal about her artistic practice. Io Makandal is an interdisciplinary artist based in Johannesburg. Working primary with drawing and installation, her practice is concerned with the processes of entropy, the binary between nature and artifice, living and dying, urban ecology and architecture and order and chaos. Makandal holds a BA Fine Art at Michaelis School of Fine Art, UCT in Cape Town (2010) and is currently a Masters candidate at Wits School of Art with Scholarship. Makandal has exhibited in group exhibitions both locally and internationally and has had two solo exhibitions in Johannesburg. Her work is a part of several private and corporate collections.

Unframed — This is the first episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today’s show, I chat with Io Makandal about her artistic practice. Io Makandal is an interdisciplinary artist based in Johannesburg. Working primary with drawing and installation, her practice is concerned with the processes of entropy, the binary between nature and artifice, living and dying, urban ecology and architecture and order and chaos. Makandal holds a BA Fine Art at Michaelis School of Fine Art, UCT in Cape Town (2010) and is currently a Masters candidate at Wits School of Art with Scholarship. Makandal has exhibited in group exhibitions both locally and internationally and has had two solo exhibitions in Johannesburg. Her work is a part of several private and corporate collections.

The discussion will explore how these artists conceive of their practice and engage the public. MODERATOR: Lorenzo Fusi (Director/Curator Yerevan Biennial 2020, London) PANELLISTS: Kemang wa Lehulere (Artist, Cape Town) François-Xavier Gbré (Artist, Abidjan)

Unframed — The discussion will explore how these artists conceive of their practice and engage the public. MODERATOR: Lorenzo Fusi (Director/Curator Yerevan Biennial 2020, London) PANELLISTS: Kemang wa Lehulere (Artist, Cape Town) François-Xavier Gbré (Artist, Abidjan)

The panel examines the current and possible future model of art platforms and institutional spaces as self-sustainable entities. Challenges around sustainability for art platforms are well theorized and yet remains a question that most non-commercial entities grapple with. Competing for the same shrinking pot of funds and maintaining the intellectual autonomy of the projects while juggling the needs of the funder is a real challenge. How do we keep our doors open while occupying the space and practitioners that the museums and commercial entities do not reach? MODERATOR: Nkule Mabaso (Curator, Michaelis School of Fine Art, Cape Town) PANELLISTS: Premesh Lalu (Factory of the Arts, UWC) Georgina Maxim (Village Unhu Collective, Harare) Angela Shaw (Director of KZNSA, Kwa-Zulu Natal) Kabelo Malatsi (Independent Curator, Johannesburg)

Unframed — The panel examines the current and possible future model of art platforms and institutional spaces as self-sustainable entities. Challenges around sustainability for art platforms are well theorized and yet remains a question that most non-commercial entities grapple with. Competing for the same shrinking pot of funds and maintaining the intellectual autonomy of the projects while juggling the needs of the funder is a real challenge. How do we keep our doors open while occupying the space and practitioners that the museums and commercial entities do not reach? MODERATOR: Nkule Mabaso (Curator, Michaelis School of Fine Art, Cape Town) PANELLISTS: Premesh Lalu (Factory of the Arts, UWC) Georgina Maxim (Village Unhu Collective, Harare) Angela Shaw (Director of KZNSA, Kwa-Zulu Natal) Kabelo Malatsi (Independent Curator, Johannesburg)

Traditionally art museums have functioned as a sanctuary, a place for meditation whilst also offering education. They have also been a cultural resource contributing to the economic engine that has strengthened local businesses through cultural tourism. In recent years, this model of museums as a shrine to history has been rethought particularly with an interest to dramatically increase audiences of every kind, whilst also recognizing the role technology plays in everyday lives. It is said that museums have gone from, “being about something to being for somebody”. Such a shift in perspective has raised many questions about what was and could be a museum in the 21stcentury. This panel will explore the various ways museums respond to pressures and challenges of the coming decade. MODERATOR: Tumelo Mosaka (Curator, New York) PANELLISTS Adriana Rispoili  (Independent Curator, Italy) Koyo Kouoh (Dir. Zeitz MOCAA, Cape Town) Sonia Lawson (Dir. Palais de Lomé, Lomé) Nana Oforiatta-Ayim (Founder and director of ANO Institute of Contemporary Arts, Accra) (text courtesy of Investec Cape Town Art Fair)

Unframed — Traditionally art museums have functioned as a sanctuary, a place for meditation whilst also offering education. They have also been a cultural resource contributing to the economic engine that has strengthened local businesses through cultural tourism. In recent years, this model of museums as a shrine to history has been rethought particularly with an interest to dramatically increase audiences of every kind, whilst also recognizing the role technology plays in everyday lives. It is said that museums have gone from, “being about something to being for somebody”. Such a shift in perspective has raised many questions about what was and could be a museum in the 21stcentury. This panel will explore the various ways museums respond to pressures and challenges of the coming decade. MODERATOR: Tumelo Mosaka (Curator, New York) PANELLISTS Adriana Rispoili  (Independent Curator, Italy) Koyo Kouoh (Dir. Zeitz MOCAA, Cape Town) Sonia Lawson (Dir. Palais de Lomé, Lomé) Nana Oforiatta-Ayim (Founder and director of ANO Institute of Contemporary Arts, Accra) (text courtesy of Investec Cape Town Art Fair)

Episode 19 is a very special and important one to me - with my friend and colleague Louise van Der Bijl. In 2010, Louise and I co-founded Assemblage, a non-profit artist-run organisation, which aimed to provide support, education and networks for emerging artists. After 9 years of hosting many workshops, peer mentoring sessions, exhibitions and studio spaces - all of which encouraged community, sharing, collaboration and professional practice for hundreds of artists - Assemblage has decided to close its metaphorical doors. In this episode, Louise and I reflect on how and why Assemblage started, our failures and successes, the ever-changing Johannesburg arts landscape and our ultimate decision to close the organization.

Unframed — Episode 19 is a very special and important one to me - with my friend and colleague Louise van Der Bijl. In 2010, Louise and I co-founded Assemblage, a non-profit artist-run organisation, which aimed to provide support, education and networks for emerging artists. After 9 years of hosting many workshops, peer mentoring sessions, exhibitions and studio spaces - all of which encouraged community, sharing, collaboration and professional practice for hundreds of artists - Assemblage has decided to close its metaphorical doors. In this episode, Louise and I reflect on how and why Assemblage started, our failures and successes, the ever-changing Johannesburg arts landscape and our ultimate decision to close the organization.

This episode is another recorded talk from the art fair week in September of this year, 2019. It was recorded at Art Joburg and is a conversation about the great and influential David Koloane who passed away at the age of 81 in June this year. I was so happy to hear that this talk was happening at Art Joburg, as I was planning an episode remembering the life and work of David Koloane. Both speakers, art historian and curator Thembinkosi Goniwe and Goodman gallery curator Justin Davy, worked intimately with David in the last few months of his life, pulling together his prolific and profound body of work for a major retrospective exhibition. Fortunately, David was able to see the first incarnation of the exhibition at Iziko National Gallery in Cape Town in June this year but sadly would not live to see its second incarnation at the Standard Bank Gallery in Johannesburg which opened just last week and runs until 6 December. Thank you to Art Joburg for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on Unframed, and to Thembinkosi and Justin for an insightful and poignant tribute to David Koloane.

Unframed — This episode is another recorded talk from the art fair week in September of this year, 2019. It was recorded at Art Joburg and is a conversation about the great and influential David Koloane who passed away at the age of 81 in June this year. I was so happy to hear that this talk was happening at Art Joburg, as I was planning an episode remembering the life and work of David Koloane. Both speakers, art historian and curator Thembinkosi Goniwe and Goodman gallery curator Justin Davy, worked intimately with David in the last few months of his life, pulling together his prolific and profound body of work for a major retrospective exhibition. Fortunately, David was able to see the first incarnation of the exhibition at Iziko National Gallery in Cape Town in June this year but sadly would not live to see its second incarnation at the Standard Bank Gallery in Johannesburg which opened just last week and runs until 6 December. Thank you to Art Joburg for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on Unframed, and to Thembinkosi and Justin for an insightful and poignant tribute to David Koloane.

This episode is a talk that I recorded as part of Latitudes Art Fair last month, September 2019. It is an informal panel discussion, which was hosted by the brilliant Michelle Constant, is entitled “How to change the art world in 2 hours”. Thirteen artists, curators, gallerists, critics and arts advocates were invited to respond to this provocation. Each speaker had 5 minutes to champion their utopian wishes or practical solutions to make the art world a more supportive, equal and engaged space. Thank you to Latitudes Art Fair for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on the Unframed platform. Enjoy listening to this wonderfully interesting and collaborative presentation. This is the list of speakers in order and where to find them: Hosted by Michelle Constant @michelleconstant_ Sean O'Toole - Journalist, art critic and editor @seanwotoole Mike Mavura - Stellenbosch Triennale / Stellenbosch Academy of Design and Photography @tigere_mavura @stellenboschtriennale Valerie Kabov - Director at First Floor Gallery Harare, Editor at large Art Africa Magazine @firstfloorgalleryharare Sibongile Metsing - South African Mint @southafricanmint Roelof van Wyk - Artist, Director of the Social Impact Arts Prize @afrikanae @socialimpactartsprizeza Tamzin Lovell - Artfundi Art Management Software Founder and Director @tamzinlovellmiller Pitika Ntuli - Sculptor, poet, writer and academic @pitika_ntuli Daudi Karungi - Artist, curator, owner of Afriart Gallery @afriartgallery @daudikarungi Kefiloe Siwisa - Curator @womlambo Zen Marie - Artist and academic @znmarie Michael Memeo - Director at Gallery TINY Harlem @gallerytinyharlem Stephen Hobbs - Artist, Co-director at The Trinity Session @hobbsstep @thetrinitysession Mbali Tshabalala - Artist, Curator @mbali_tshabalala_

Unframed — This episode is a talk that I recorded as part of Latitudes Art Fair last month, September 2019. It is an informal panel discussion, which was hosted by the brilliant Michelle Constant, is entitled “How to change the art world in 2 hours”. Thirteen artists, curators, gallerists, critics and arts advocates were invited to respond to this provocation. Each speaker had 5 minutes to champion their utopian wishes or practical solutions to make the art world a more supportive, equal and engaged space. Thank you to Latitudes Art Fair for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on the Unframed platform. Enjoy listening to this wonderfully interesting and collaborative presentation. This is the list of speakers in order and where to find them: Hosted by Michelle Constant @michelleconstant_ Sean O’Toole - Journalist, art critic and editor @seanwotoole Mike Mavura - Stellenbosch Triennale / Stellenbosch Academy of Design and Photography @tigere_mavura @stellenboschtriennale Valerie Kabov - Director at First Floor Gallery Harare, Editor at large Art Africa Magazine @firstfloorgalleryharare Sibongile Metsing - South African Mint @southafricanmint Roelof van Wyk - Artist, Director of the Social Impact Arts Prize @afrikanae @socialimpactartsprizeza Tamzin Lovell - Artfundi Art Management Software Founder and Director @tamzinlovellmiller Pitika Ntuli - Sculptor, poet, writer and academic @pitika_ntuli Daudi Karungi - Artist, curator, owner of Afriart Gallery @afriartgallery @daudikarungi Kefiloe Siwisa - Curator @womlambo Zen Marie - Artist and academic @znmarie Michael Memeo - Director at Gallery TINY Harlem @gallerytinyharlem Stephen Hobbs - Artist, Co-director at The Trinity Session @hobbsstep @thetrinitysession Mbali Tshabalala - Artist, Curator @mbali_tshabalala_

This episode is a talk that I recorded at the Wits Art Museum in July 2019, between two prolific South African artists, Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge, over the time that Sam's print retrospective was displayed at WAM. This talk continues from a previous conversation between the two last year at the Centre for the Less Good Idea. Both artists were born in 1955, a fact on which the talk was premised, and engaged how their lives and careers have grown in parallel, sometimes converging, over the decades. The conversation is moderated by the wonderful Neil Dundas, a curator at the Goodman Gallery who has worked with both men for many decades. The focus of this conversation is largely on how music has been so influential to both their art practices and they have compiled a playlist which they refer to during the talk. Those music pieces haven't always translated well in the recording so I have included the playlist below so you can listen to each song with more appreciation. On iTunes: https://music.apple.com/za/playlist/sam-william-at-wam-2019/pl.u-38oWXm4sZlZbaL On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0M9hFoHYaXkfXPEtdDjOSB Enjoy listening to this engaging conversation with Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge. Thank you to Wits Art Museum for allowing me to record this talk and publish it on Unframed.

Unframed — This episode is a talk that I recorded at the Wits Art Museum in July 2019, between two prolific South African artists, Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge, over the time that Sam’s print retrospective was displayed at WAM. This talk continues from a previous conversation between the two last year at the Centre for the Less Good Idea. Both artists were born in 1955, a fact on which the talk was premised, and engaged how their lives and careers have grown in parallel, sometimes converging, over the decades. The conversation is moderated by the wonderful Neil Dundas, a curator at the Goodman Gallery who has worked with both men for many decades. The focus of this conversation is largely on how music has been so influential to both their art practices and they have compiled a playlist which they refer to during the talk. Those music pieces haven’t always translated well in the recording so I have included the playlist below so you can listen to each song with more appreciation. On iTunes: https://music.apple.com/za/playlist/sam-william-at-wam-2019/pl.u-38oWXm4sZlZbaL On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0M9hFoHYaXkfXPEtdDjOSB Enjoy listening to this engaging conversation with Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge. Thank you to Wits Art Museum for allowing me to record this talk and publish it on Unframed.

In this episode, I interview one of the directors of Stevenson Gallery, Joost Bosland. We speak about the role of art criticism internationally and in South Africa, primarily focussed on his research about the 'artist interview' as a form or genre in art criticism. Can the artist interview offer a more empathetic value to art criticism? We also chat more generally about the South African art scene and explore how contemporary art is defined. Joost is an avid listener of podcasts and these are his favourites at the moment: Collect Wisely: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/collect-wisely/id1378595357 In Other Words: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/in-other-words/id1203133627 Stevenson website: www.stevenson.info

Unframed — In this episode, I interview one of the directors of Stevenson Gallery, Joost Bosland. We speak about the role of art criticism internationally and in South Africa, primarily focussed on his research about the 'artist interview' as a form or genre in art criticism. Can the artist interview offer a more empathetic value to art criticism? We also chat more generally about the South African art scene and explore how contemporary art is defined. Joost is an avid listener of podcasts and these are his favourites at the moment: Collect Wisely: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/collect-wisely/id1378595357 In Other Words: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/in-other-words/id1203133627 Stevenson website: www.stevenson.info

This episode is the third of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. Title: "Concerning Us: On collective sustainability" Panel discussion with Blaque INQ Contemporaries (Kamogelo Masemola), Danger Gevaar Ingozi Studio (Chad Codeiro), Free State Collective (Karen Brusch), moderated by Aysha Waja (curator) This panel will explore how artist collectives can be sustained and developed, against a trend of their rapid dissolution.  What is the value of collaboration and can collectives withstand the fast-pace changes of the industry while maintaining their identities and ethos? (source: TAF website) The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Sawisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.

Unframed — This episode is the third of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. Title: "Concerning Us: On collective sustainability" Panel discussion with Blaque INQ Contemporaries (Kamogelo Masemola), Danger Gevaar Ingozi Studio (Chad Codeiro), Free State Collective (Karen Brusch), moderated by Aysha Waja (curator) This panel will explore how artist collectives can be sustained and developed, against a trend of their rapid dissolution.  What is the value of collaboration and can collectives withstand the fast-pace changes of the industry while maintaining their identities and ethos? (source: TAF website) The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Sawisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.

This episode is the second of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. Title: "There are No Lines Here: Queering visibility and representation" Panel discussion with Jody Brand (artist), Evaan Ferreira (artist), Umlilo (musician), moderated by Keval Harie (Director: Gay and Lesbian Archive GALA) The panelists in this discussion are all practising artists whose works' deal with the froughtness of identification and (self)representation. Using mythological fantasies, the virtual and the speculative, these artists are shaping aesthetic forms and narratives that challenge binary identity politics. (source: TAF website) The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.

Unframed — This episode is the second of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. Title: "There are No Lines Here: Queering visibility and representation" Panel discussion with Jody Brand (artist), Evaan Ferreira (artist), Umlilo (musician), moderated by Keval Harie (Director: Gay and Lesbian Archive GALA) The panelists in this discussion are all practising artists whose works' deal with the froughtness of identification and (self)representation. Using mythological fantasies, the virtual and the speculative, these artists are shaping aesthetic forms and narratives that challenge binary identity politics. (source: TAF website) The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.

This episode is the first of a series of 4 talks that were recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. Title: "It was Given to me to Give to You: Art collecting & inter-generational wealth creation" Panel discussion with Jack Ginsberg (Ampersand Foundation), Sean Meyersfeld (investment specialist) and Dr Alastair Meredith (Senior Art Specialist: Strauss & Co) In this panel, art's potential as a form of wealth creation and legacy building will be explored. Investment specialists and collectors will discuss how establishing an art collection can be an integral part of a robust investment portfolio. (source: TAF website) The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.

Unframed — This episode is the first of a series of 4 talks that were recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. Title: "It was Given to me to Give to You: Art collecting & inter-generational wealth creation" Panel discussion with Jack Ginsberg (Ampersand Foundation), Sean Meyersfeld (investment specialist) and Dr Alastair Meredith (Senior Art Specialist: Strauss & Co) In this panel, art’s potential as a form of wealth creation and legacy building will be explored. Investment specialists and collectors will discuss how establishing an art collection can be an integral part of a robust investment portfolio. (source: TAF website) The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.

Welcome back to Unframed - a podcast which hosts talks and conversations about South African art and artists. I am your host Anthea Pokroy. You may have noticed a very large gap between this and the last episode. I was finishing off my Masters in Fine Art and so, unfortunately, had to focus all my energy on that. But Unframed is now back and we are looking forward to the program that is to follow in the coming months! In this episode, I am excited to be in conversation with Mandla Sibeko, the new owner and director of Art Joburg which is a new incarnation of the iconic Joburg Art Fair. This rebranded and revisioned art fair will take place in a few weeks from 13-15 September at Sandton Convention Centre. In this interview, Mandla explains to me this shift from the old to the new, and the reasons behind it; what this new art fair will consist of - what we as visitors can expect to see and experience at the fair; the role of this and other art fairs in Joburg, South Africa and internationally in the broader art ecosystem. Be sure to clear your calendars between 13-15 September for Art Joburg and its affiliated Gallery Weekend, as well as for Latitudes Art Fair and The Underline Show happening the same weekend. Check out their websites and social media for more info on very exciting showcases of South African art: Art Joburg: https://artjoburg.com/ Latitudes Art Fair: https://latitudesartfair.com/ The Underline Show: https://underlineprojects.art/ I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on Art Joburg and the other fairs happening at this time? Please feel free to comment on the post for this episode on Facebook (https://facebook.com/unframedpodcast) and Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast/). Dont forget to subscribe to Unframed Podcast on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/za/podcast/unframed) and instantly receive new episodes as they are released Giving a review would be awesome too please! Thanks for joining me, until next time!

Unframed — Welcome back to Unframed - a podcast which hosts talks and conversations about South African art and artists. I am your host Anthea Pokroy. You may have noticed a very large gap between this and the last episode. I was finishing off my Masters in Fine Art and so, unfortunately, had to focus all my energy on that. But Unframed is now back and we are looking forward to the program that is to follow in the coming months! In this episode, I am excited to be in conversation with Mandla Sibeko, the new owner and director of Art Joburg which is a new incarnation of the iconic Joburg Art Fair. This rebranded and revisioned art fair will take place in a few weeks from 13-15 September at Sandton Convention Centre. In this interview, Mandla explains to me this shift from the old to the new, and the reasons behind it; what this new art fair will consist of - what we as visitors can expect to see and experience at the fair; the role of this and other art fairs in Joburg, South Africa and internationally in the broader art ecosystem. Be sure to clear your calendars between 13-15 September for Art Joburg and its affiliated Gallery Weekend, as well as for Latitudes Art Fair and The Underline Show happening the same weekend. Check out their websites and social media for more info on very exciting showcases of South African art: Art Joburg: https://artjoburg.com/ Latitudes Art Fair: https://latitudesartfair.com/ The Underline Show: https://underlineprojects.art/ I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on Art Joburg and the other fairs happening at this time? Please feel free to comment on the post for this episode on Facebook (https://facebook.com/unframedpodcast) and Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast/). Dont forget to subscribe to Unframed Podcast on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/za/podcast/unframed) and instantly receive new episodes as they are released Giving a review would be awesome too please! Thanks for joining me, until next time!

In today's episode I interview lawyer Eitan Stern from Legalese about artist copyright and other legal aspects that artists should consider in making work and in their careers. My intial interest in chatting with Eitan arose from an incident that occurred at the Joburg Art Fair this September 2018, where South African photographer Graeme Williams accused American artist Hank Willis Thomas of using William's photograph in Willis' own artwork without his permission. Read more about it and see the images here: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/sep/13/graeme-williams-hank-willis-thomas-photograph We use this case to discuss further issues of artist copyright and what artists should be considering when using other people's images in their own artwork. We also explore the rights of photographers, as well as the business of arts. Eitan encourages artists to be professional by using contracts and to take the initiative to understand fully every transaction that is made. This episode is really insightful especially for emerging artists and photographers. Contact Legalese here: https://legalese.co.za/#contact-us-section Read the article on How Not To Get Sued for Your Photography here: https://10and5.com/2018/09/25/not-get-sued-photography/ Sign up as a member with VANSA here: https://vansa.co.za/membership/

Unframed — In today’s episode I interview lawyer Eitan Stern from Legalese about artist copyright and other legal aspects that artists should consider in making work and in their careers. My intial interest in chatting with Eitan arose from an incident that occurred at the Joburg Art Fair this September 2018, where South African photographer Graeme Williams accused American artist Hank Willis Thomas of using William's photograph in Willis’ own artwork without his permission. Read more about it and see the images here: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/sep/13/graeme-williams-hank-willis-thomas-photograph We use this case to discuss further issues of artist copyright and what artists should be considering when using other people’s images in their own artwork. We also explore the rights of photographers, as well as the business of arts. Eitan encourages artists to be professional by using contracts and to take the initiative to understand fully every transaction that is made. This episode is really insightful especially for emerging artists and photographers. Contact Legalese here: https://legalese.co.za/#contact-us-section Read the article on How Not To Get Sued for Your Photography here: https://10and5.com/2018/09/25/not-get-sued-photography/ Sign up as a member with VANSA here: https://vansa.co.za/membership/

This episode is part of of the "Talk” component of Unframed, as opposed to the “Interview” which is an interview directly with your host Anthea Pokroy. The “Talk” component features art dialogues, talks and panel discussions that happen around the country outside of this podcast, but where we are lucky enough to add the content to this platform for many to hear. I was fortunate to attend this one in September 2018, between artists William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare. Shonibare, a British-Nigerian artist based in the UK, came to South Africa in September for the opening of his exhibition at the Goodman Gallery. As part of the Centre for the Less Good Idea's Once Off program, Kentridge hosted Shonibare for a conversation between the two prolific artists. Thank you so much to the Centre, the Goodman Gallery and the FNB Art Fair for allowing the recording of this dynamic conversation to be aired on Unframed. Enjoy listening to William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare in dialogue about their art practices

Unframed — This episode is part of of the "Talk” component of Unframed, as opposed to the “Interview” which is an interview directly with your host Anthea Pokroy. The “Talk” component features art dialogues, talks and panel discussions that happen around the country outside of this podcast, but where we are lucky enough to add the content to this platform for many to hear. I was fortunate to attend this one in September 2018, between artists William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare. Shonibare, a British-Nigerian artist based in the UK, came to South Africa in September for the opening of his exhibition at the Goodman Gallery. As part of the Centre for the Less Good Idea’s Once Off program, Kentridge hosted Shonibare for a conversation between the two prolific artists. Thank you so much to the Centre, the Goodman Gallery and the FNB Art Fair for allowing the recording of this dynamic conversation to be aired on Unframed. Enjoy listening to William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare in dialogue about their art practices

In this 8th episode, we speak to artist Brownyn Lace about her current exhibition, Mirror Mirror, showing at Everard Read Gallery in Johannesburg until 6 October 2018. We chat about this show and how it is to work with a big gallery, as well as her many different roles in the industry including that of animateur for The Centre for the Less Good Idea. She talks about her process, studio practice, the importance of working in a community and being part of the “bigger picture”, and the value of creating relationships in the industry.

Unframed — In this 8th episode, we speak to artist Brownyn Lace about her current exhibition, Mirror Mirror, showing at Everard Read Gallery in Johannesburg until 6 October 2018. We chat about this show and how it is to work with a big gallery, as well as her many different roles in the industry including that of animateur for The Centre for the Less Good Idea. She talks about her process, studio practice, the importance of working in a community and being part of the “bigger picture”, and the value of creating relationships in the industry.

In this 7th episode of Unframed, we speak about the Joburg Art Fair which just took place last weekend, 7-9 September 2018. I'm not going to lie this is the event of the year for me, I really enjoy seeing all the people in the art world, and its a good survey of work that is happening in South Africa, and bits of other African countries, albeit a very specific sector of the market. I think it is important to reflect on this event critically whilst acknowledging its benefits to the industry. I have invited arts writer, curator and consultant, Mary Corrigall to join me in a discussion around this year's fair, the role of the art fair in the broader arts landscape, and I chat to her about her research report which surveys the contemporary arts in Africa, which can be found here: https://www.corrigall.org/art-reports Enjoy listening to my conversation with Mary Corrigall.