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El juez Richard Goldstone, un judío sudafricano, quien había servido previamente como fiscal de las Naciones Unidas tanto en Yugoslavia como también en Ruanda, presentó su reporte patrocinado por las Naciones Unidas. Este reporte estaba basado en la misión de investigación para determinar detalles sobre el conflicto Israel-Hamas en Gaza entre diciembre 2008 y enero 2009. El reporte, comúnmente conocido como el Goldstone Report, fue sumamente crítico para los dos bandos, Israel y Hamas, en cuanto a sus respectivas acciones durante el primero de los tres enfrentamientos militares más grandes entre las entidades (2008-2014). Muchos se mostraron en desacuerdo con los descubrimientos del reporte y con la metodología del mismo, considerándolo en contra de Israel y sin evidencias para sustentar ciertos reclamos. El día primero de abril de 2011, en un artículo de opinión del Washington Post, Goldstone se retractó sobre porciones del reporte que sugerían que las fuerzas israelíes mataban intencionalmente a civiles. Aunque no exonera totalmente a Israel, aun así, expresó que sus métodos investigativos eran deficientes e incompletos. También reiteró el “derecho de Israel a la soberanía y su obligación a defenderse a sí mismo y a sus ciudadanos.”

Accusations made against Israel over the last month that the Israeli army used “excessive force” against Palestinians along the fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel provided me with a strong sense of déjà vu. Back in 2009, Israel was bombarded with criticism that it had used disproportionate amounts of force as it tried to suppress Hamas rocket fire aimed at Israeli cities. The high point of that criticism back then was the release of the famous, or I should say infamous, Goldstone Report that was commissioned by the UN Human Rights Council. The Goldstone Report had the audacity to assert that Israel had used its military forces to deliberately kill Palestinian civilians. I’ll repeat that: “deliberately kill Palestinian civilians.” The report was adopted by a large number of countries. At the time, I actually was asked by Brandeis University to debate Goldstone, to bring the evidence I could obtain from the Israeli army to show the truth of what really happened. Actually, in 2011, the truth finally came out about the Goldstone Report, just as Goldstone actually retracted his conclusions in an op-ed that he wrote for The Washington Post. Unfortunately, the damage had been done to Israel in those years. Charles Krauthammer in fact called the Goldstone Report a “blood libel against the Jewish state.” Now in 2018, Israel was bombarded again with a whole series of false accusations about how it handled the situation along the Gaza-Israel fence. The facts that have come out since that time show a completely different reality from what Israel’s accusers have been saying. First, we saw in an area called Kerem Shalom – that’s the international crossing from Israel into the Gaza Strip – that Hamas ordered an attack on this passageway that supplies food, pharmaceuticals, clothing, and everything that the people of Gaza need for a normal life. The Kerem Shalom passageway was set on fire by the Palestinians themselves. Second: Mahmoud al-Zahar, one of the most prominent Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip, who used to be foreign minister of the Gaza statelet, Mahmoud al-Zahar reminded his Arabic-speaking audience that, as he said, “This is not peaceful resistance.” I’m talking about the demonstrations along the fence. “It is supported by our weapons.” Third: a day afterwards, Hamas released a press release with an astounding claim. It said that the Great Return March, which was leading Palestinians to charge the border fence, was actually part of the heroic armed struggle. Fourth: in another statement made by Hamas it was stated that the goal of the march was to breach the fence. “To breach the fence” means to break open the fence and allow thousands to pour into Israel. Now they weren’t going there to have a picnic. On that occasion, Hamas also provided the demonstrators with maps of how to get to Jewish towns and villages. And fifth: it became clear when a senior Hamas member gave an interview on television and he admitted that of the 62 Palestinians who had been killed, 50 were Hamas operatives. Suddenly, the picture of what went on in this struggle over Israel’s fence with the Gaza Strip became clearer as this information came out and the situation became clear about what happened along Israel’s southern fence. I wondered whether the people who had attacked Israel, who had made comments and questioned the intentions of the Israeli army, I wondered whether they would come out and express some kind of remorse and perhaps a different view. Among all the critics of Israel, it’s this rush to judgment that shows a basic lack of faith in the Israeli legal system, in the morality of the Israeli army, and it’s this rush to judgment that encourages Hamas to keep its war against the State of Israel going.

Muhammad Abu Askar, a longtime member of Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, appeared before the Goldstone Panel arguing that his house had been "unjustly" blown up by Israel. No one bothered to ask him whether Hamas munitions were being stored in his house. The IDF reported that Abu Askar's house served as a storage facility for large stockpiles of weapons and ammunition, including Iranian-supplied Grad rockets that had been used against Israeli cities like Ashkelon, Ashdod, and Beersheba. The Izz al-Din al-Qassam website disclosed that Khaled Abu Askar, Muhammad's son, provided Hamas operatives with rockets and military equipment.

Israel is trying to improve its image by using Richard Goldstone's back peddling on the Goldstone Report on the Israeli invasion of Gaza in 2008/2009 where over 1300 Palestinians were killed by Israel while Israel just had 13 deaths.  The U.S. Senate demonstrates its faithful subservience to Israel by passing a resolution to condemn the Goldstone Report even though the 3 other major members of the committee continue to stand by the original report.

The bankers get bailouts while pensioners get threatened with losing their Social Security. Also, we talk about some not so surprising events by the Israeli government regarding the Goldstone Report on the Israeli attack on Gaza in 2008-9. And, don't forget that famous question, "Where's the beef?"

David Kaye, UCLA Law School Professor and Executive Director of the International Human Rights Program

David Kaye, UCLA Law School Professor and Executive Director of the International Human Rights Program

Sarah Leah Whitson, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Division of Human Rights Watch

Sarah Leah Whitson, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Division of Human Rights Watch

In the Middle East, Hillary Clinton has walked into the familiar buzz-saw of Arab-Israeli politics, and Congress is about to condemn the UN's "Goldstone Report." What's happening to President Obama's "new start" with the Muslim world? Also, Afghan President Hamid Karzai takes office, and healthcare reform and "spiritual healing." 

Bill Moyers talks with Judge Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into the fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.

Bill Moyers talks with Judge Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into the fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.