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"All dying is a spiritual process," says our guest on this episode, hospice chaplain Kerry Egan. By this, she means that each person's death is more than just a biological event; it's an opportunity to reflect on the culmination of our human experiences, the lessons we've learned, and the impact we've had on others. The recognition of our impermanence prompts us to grapple with questions of legacy and purpose, infusing our mortal existence with depth and significance. Over the course of our conversation, Kerry describes how she became a chaplain, how she supports patients and other clinicians through difficult times, and the process of reconciling the strength of the human spirit with the limitations of the body.In this episode, you will hear about:An overview of hospice care and the role of the chaplain - 1:53The difference between hospital chaplaincy and hospice chaplaincy, and what led Kerry to this work - 7:15A discussion of the distinction between the person's physical body and their intangible soul, consciousness, or spirit - 26:00How a chaplain offers spiritual counseling to clinicians in addition to patients - 32:51How years of being a chaplain has taught Kerry to love her own body - 34:20Why viewing the body as a machine and the physician as a mechanic leads to harm - 39:01Kerry's advice to doctors for keeping compassion alive - 49:08Kerry Egan is the author of On Living, a memoir about her experiences as a hospice chaplain.You can follow Kerry Egan on Instagram @KerryEganWriter.Visit our website www.TheDoctorsArt.com where you can find transcripts of all episodes.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, rate, and review our show, available for free on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you know of a doctor, patient, or anyone working in health care who would love to explore meaning in medicine with us on the show, feel free to leave a suggestion in the comments or send an email to info@thedoctorsart.com.Copyright The Doctor's Art Podcast 2023
As a hospice chaplain, Kerry Egan quickly realized she'd been granted an invaluable chance to witness firsthand what she calls the “spiritual work of dying”—the work of finding or making meaning of one's life. In her years spent working in hospice care, Kerry has listened to patients reflect on feelings of hope and regret, shame and pride, mystery and revelation and secrets held too long. Most of all, though, she listened as her patients talked about love—love for their children and partners and friends; love they didn't know how to offer; love they gave unconditionally; love they, sometimes belatedly, learned to grant themselves. My friends, this conversation is not about dying. It's about how to live boldly, love fiercely and dream extraordinarily. Join us as Kerry shares how to find courage in the face of fear, the strength to make amends, and how to be profoundly compassionate and incredibly empathetic.
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Kerry Egan is a hospice chaplain, graduate of Harvard Divinity School, and author of "On Living and Fumbling: A Journey of Love", "Adventure, and Renewal on the Camino de Santiago". Her work has been featured on PBS and CNN, and her essays have appeared in Parents, American Baby, Reader’s Digest, and CNN.com, where they have been read more than two million times. Find out more at KerryEgan.com. Find out more about the Zestful Aging Podcast at NicoleChristina.com, and become a patron at Patreon.com/ZestfulAging.
Musician Ruth Ungar found out about her dear friend Hubie's death on Facebook of all places. This was her first taste of sudden, earth-shattering loss. We're talking about the healing power of "good clean dirt," what it was like for Ruth to find out about Hubie's death on Facebook (while she and her husband were on tour), and how music creates a beautiful space for all of us to grieve. Plus, I'm sharing The Mammals' magical song inspired by Hubie's death, "When My Story Ends." Also on the show this week, I'm answering a listener question about navigating hospice care for the first time. Receive more information on the 2019 Bereavement Cruise when you fill out this form: http://www.comingbackcruise.com Episode 36: On Living (and Fumbling) with Kerry Egan: http://www.shelbyforsythia.com/podcast/36 Hospice Foundation of America: https://hospicefoundation.org/ Hospice FAQ: https://www.vitas.com/resources/hospice-care/hospice-faqs-everything-you-need-to-know Ruth Ungar's music + The Mammals: http://www.themammals.love/ Join me live on Facebook Monday 7/2 at 1:00 Central. Support Coming Back on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/shelbyforsythia Subscribe: Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/2CMqhhE Spotify http://spoti.fi/2CMr16k Stitcher http://bit.ly/2m08eJr YouTube http://bit.ly/2m1JWil GooglePlay http://bit.ly/2lWQmiG TuneIn http://bit.ly/2F469Fl Continue the conversation on grief and loss in my private Facebook group, The Grief Growers' Garden: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thegriefgrowersgarden/ To ask a question or leave a comment for a future show, leave a voicemail at 312.725.3043 or email shelby@shelbyforsythia.com, subject line, "Podcast." Because even through grief, we are growing. http://www.shelbyforsythia.com/
How are you living? Are you moving forward freely each and every day, without any regrets, living a life that as full and rich as it can be? For many of us, the answer is ‘no.’ Can we change that response? Kerry Egan, a hospice chaplain, shares how it doesn’t matter whether you have 10-days left on this earth or 45 more years, change is possible and your life, today, right at this very moment, is worth making it as meaningful as it can be. Kerry’s a Harvard Divinity School-educated hospice chaplain and author of the book On Living. She’s a former Writer in Residence at the Aspen Institute’s Aspen Words program and has been featured on PBS News Hour as well as CNN’s Morning Edition. Kerry’s essays have appeared in The New York Times, CNN.com, The Washington Post, Oprah.com, Woman’s Day, Parents and Reader’s Digest, among many others. Have your world, your entire world, open up—and see your life for the incredible journey that it is. Key takeaways: Living in strength. All too often we’re put into situations where we feel powerless; a loved one passes, your child’s relentlessly sick, etc. And although you feel helpless, you’re stronger than you think. HERE’S where your true power lies…[10:22]. Living in shamelessness. When someone feels ashamed about themselves it means there’s a part of them they feel is unlovable and it’s as though revealing this terrible, hidden side of themselves will make their world crumble and become unlivable. But there’s another way to see it. THIS is why a shameless secret is really kept…[22:55]. Living in regret. Take a few minutes and think about where you are in your life right at this very moment. If you were to die tomorrow, would you have any regrets? What would they actually reveal about you? Instead of looking at them in sorrow, try THIS approach…[27:47]. Tune in and turn the volume up for a dose of inspiration and life lessons. You're never more than One Idea Away from a whole, new reality.
Kerry Egan believes our love for deceased loved ones doesn't end—it changes. Do you agree? Kerry Egan's work: http://kerryegan.com/ Season 3 of Coming Back returns May 2, 2018! In the meantime... Enter my giveaway to win two copies of The Grief Recovery Method Handbook® by supporting Coming Back on Patreon. Winner will be selected at random from the list of all active patrons as of 4/30/2018. Winner will receive two paperback copies of The Grief Recovery Method Handbook, a set of three Coming Back podcast stickers, and a handwritten thank you note. Make your pledge here: https://www.patreon.com/shelbyforsythia FREE! Join me LIVE in Seattle for a Coming Back podcast meetup Monday 4/23 from 4:00-6:00 Pacific on the 7th floor patio of the Fourth and Madison Building: https://www.facebook.com/events/1766567910029917/ Ask Me Anything LIVE on Google Hangouts Sunday 4/29 at 7:00 Central when you pledge $33/month or more on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/shelbyforsythia Subscribe: iTunes https://apple.co/2CMqhhE Spotify http://spoti.fi/2CMr16k Stitcher http://bit.ly/2m08eJr YouTube http://bit.ly/2m1JWil GooglePlay http://bit.ly/2lWQmiG TuneIn http://bit.ly/2F469Fl Continue the conversation on grief and loss in my private Facebook group, The Grief Growers' Garden: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thegriefgrowersgarden/ To ask a question or leave a comment for a future show, leave a voicemail at 312.725.3043 or email shelby@shelbyforsythia.com, subject line, "Podcast." Because even through grief, we are growing. http://www.shelbyforsythia.com/
Hospice chaplain and author Kerry Egan lost her father... and her mind. Her dad's loss led her journeying, and she hiked the Camino de Santiago. Her postpartum psychotic break led her inward, where she learned powerful lessons about what's real and what isn't—and why we should validate others' experiences no matter what we believe. Both losses cultivated her ability to be present with others' pain in her work as a hospice chaplain and called her to write two books: Fumbling and On Living. Also on the show, I'm reading a listener email about the importance of letting grievers make their own meaning and finding grief motifs on TV. Ask Me Anything LIVE on Google Hangouts Monday 2/26 at 8:00 Central when you pledge $33/month or more on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/shelbyforsythia Kerry Egan's work: http://kerryegan.com/ Join me live on Facebook Monday 2/26 at 1:00 Central. Support Coming Back on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/shelbyforsythia Subscribe: iTunes https://apple.co/2CMqhhE Spotify http://spoti.fi/2CMr16k Stitcher http://bit.ly/2m08eJr YouTube http://bit.ly/2m1JWil GooglePlay http://bit.ly/2lWQmiG TuneIn http://bit.ly/2F469Fl Continue the conversation on grief and loss in my private Facebook group, The Grief Growers' Garden: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thegriefgrowersgarden/ To ask a question or leave a comment for a future show, leave a voicemail at 312.725.3043 or email shelby@shelbyforsythia.com, subject line, "Podcast." Because even through grief, we are growing. http://www.shelbyforsythia.com/
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