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Welcome to the Fans First Sports Network's National Football League podcast feed. Here, we will be sharing shows about NFL across the entire league, with shows focusing on news, rumors, statistical analysis, the NFL Draft, and more.

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    NFL Whip Around: What, if anything, can the NFL learn from the World Cup?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2026 34:32


    The 2026 FIFA World Cup just ended, and now NFL fans turn their attention to the upcoming training camps. But before we leave the World Cup, is there anything the NFL could learn from the global tournament? That's one of the topics on the latest NFL Whip Around podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach Kevin Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Fantasy Football Flashback to Some Legendary Seasons!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2026 55:42


    Welcome to the Draft Dynasty Podcast! Join hosts Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar as they break down the latest in the Fantasy Football landscape this offseason! Special Guest: Corey Eckenroth The DDP is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: If you want to succeed in the NFL, be great on 1st down

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2026 28:22


    On our latest "Inside the Numbers" episode of The Call Sheet, we dive into the importance of 1st downs, and the impact they have on a football game. Whether on offense or defense, the numbers don't lie. If you want to succeed in the NFL, be great on 1st down. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: 2026 NFL Divisional Preview, AFC and NFC East

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2026 30:38


    The NFL is closing in on training camp for the 2026 season, and it is time we start our annual breakdown of all divisions. Today, the AFC and NFC East divisions. Join hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman on the latest The Way We See It podcast as they break it all down. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: Make or Break players in 2026

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2026 32:38


    The upcoming NFL season is filled with players trying to make their mark on their respective teams. Players who could find themselves either out of a job, or getting a big pay day. That's what we'll call a make-or-break year. Who's in line for one in 2026? That's the topic of the latest NFL Whip Around podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach Kevin Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Best Mid-Round Fantasy Values Based on ADP

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2026 48:57


    Welcome back to the Draft Dynasty Podcast on the Fans First Sports Network! On this week's episode, Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar talk Fantasy values in the middle rounds of fantasy drafts. Get the DDP every Friday at 6am ET wherever you get your podcasts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: Why are tight ends becoming the most valuable chess pieces on offense?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2026 28:28


    On today's Football 101 episode of The Call Sheet, we look at how offenses are countering the "nickel revolution" on defense by putting more tight ends on the field. What advantages are 12-personnel sets providing offenses, and why have tight ends become their most valuable chess piece? This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: AFC or NFC? Which is the most complete conference in the NFL?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2026 35:09


    NFL training camps are still weeks away, but with the majority of the offseason behind us, it is a good time to discuss which conference will be better in 2026? AFC or NFC? That's the topic of conversation on the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: How does the Brandon Aiyuk saga end?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2026 36:29


    The NFL is preparing for training camp, but there is still plenty of drama surrounding the league. No player has drawn more negative attention to themself than Brandon Aiyuk. How does the Aiyuk saga end? That, and plenty more, on the latest NFL Whip Around podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Kevin Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty: Instant Impact Rookies in 2026 Fantasy Football

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2026 43:37


    Who are the rookies from the 2026 NFL Draft who can be considered instant impact players for Fantasy Football? There might be more than you think... Check out Andrew Wilbar on the latest Draft Dynasty Podcast. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: The perfect music lyrics to explain six NFL players and teams

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2026 32:50


    On today's Call Sheet podcast, we draw upon some notable song lyrics to explain the state of six NFL players and teams. How do musicians like Pearl Jam, Bruce Springsteen and Led Zeppelin relate to Myles Garrett, Joey Porter Jr and the Vikings and Bills? Tune in to find out! This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: Winners and Losers across the NFL in 2026

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2026 42:05


    The NFL offseason continues to drag on, and it is time to take a look at teams who could be labeled winners and losers after almost a full offseason. Which teams fall on which side of the docket? That's the topic on the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: Talking NFL Bad Boys past, present, and future

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2026 38:15


    At this time during the NFL offseason, you don't want your team to be in the news. Outside of a new contract being signed, most of the news is typically negative. We talk about the NFL 'Bad Boys' both past, present, and future. All on the latest NFL Whip Around podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach Kevin Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Dark Horse Fantasy Candidates to Finish as the Top Scorer at Their Position in 2026

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2026 35:08


    Welcome back to the Draft Dynasty Podcast on the Fans First Sports Network! On this week's episode, Jeremy Betz talks Fantasy Football, charting some of the top contenders to finish as QB1, RB1, WR1, and TE1 who are currently ranked outside of the Top 5 at their position. Get the DDP every Friday at 6am ET wherever you get your podcasts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: Which NFL players have the most to prove in 2026?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2026 29:18


    With the Knicks finally quieting their critics by winning their first NBA title in over 50 years, today's Call Sheet podcast looks at which NFL players face similar scrutiny in 2026. Which players have the highest expectations and the most to prove? This podcast is part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: Preparing NFL fans for Training Camps and Joint Practices

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2026 33:10


    We are in the midst of the summer lull in the NFL offseason, but it is time to get fans ready for training camp and potential joint practices. Are rookies arriving early a good thing? Should teams look for joint practices to offset a lack of preseason games? All that, and more, on the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: What can the NFL adopt from the UFL?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2026 34:58


    The NFL can be a very stubborn organization, but they can also be influenced by outside entities at times too. In this case, can the NFL consider adopting any rules/regulations from the UFL, who just wrapped up their season? To hear about that, and plenty more, join hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach KT Smith on the latest episode of the NFL Whip Around podcast. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: NFL Over/Under Win Totals Draft

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2026 51:14


    Join Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar on the Fans First Sports Networks' Draft and Fantasy show, the Draft Dynasty Podcast! On this week's ep, the boys dive into 2026 win total over/unders and list their favorite props for the upcoming season! The DDP is a part of the FFSN podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: Why toughness is the most valuable attribute in sports (Part One)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2026 29:04


    On today's Call Sheet podcast, we present Part One on the subject of toughness in sports. What makes an athlete tough? What are the traits of toughness? And why is toughness the most important attribute in sports? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: Let the NFL Minicamp overreaction begin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2026 34:57


    For some NFL teams they are just heading to their Mandatory Minicamps, while others have already concluded their offseason workouts. Throughout Organized Team Activities (OTAs) and Minicamp there is plenty of reaction by fans of all teams. In other words, let the overreaction begin! That, and more, on the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: What's the next big trend we will see in the NFL?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2026 33:16


    The NFL calendar is slowly turning away from offseason workouts into one of the few lulls on their calendar. Between those workouts and training camp it is a perfect time to evaluate the league on multiple fronts. What's the next big schematic trend in the NFL? Where will the big name free agents on the open market land? Is a player really worth half a billion dollars? That, and plenty more, on the latest NFL Whip Around with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach Kevin Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Fantasy Favorites in the First Five Rounds

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2026 54:31


    It's time for the Draft Dynasty Podcast here on FFSN, your show for the latest NFL Draft and Fantasy Football information! Join Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar to discuss their favorite and least favorite fantasy players for each of the first 5 Rounds of Redraft formats. The DDP is a part of the Fans First Sports Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: What's the best jersey number in NFL history? Crunching the numbers on numbers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2026 24:56


    On today's Call Sheet podcast, we discuss which NFL jersey numbers have an argument as the best of all time. Which trio of players is the greatest to wear a single jersey number? And what number has bragging rights as the greatest? A fun show to start your week! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: How the Brendan Sorsby news impacts the NFL

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2026 39:19


    The Brendan Sorsby situation in college football has slowly bled its way into the NFL realm, and weighing in on the situation is a tricky situation. Time to talk details about that situation, as well as the latest contracts being given out around the league, on the latest podcast. Join hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman as they break it all down on the latest The Way We See It podcast. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: Predicting Year 2 "jumps" or "slumps" for NFL sophomores

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2026 34:24


    The NFL is entering the final lull of the calendar year before teams report to their respective training camps, and it is important to note some of the players entering Year 2 in the NFL who might be in for a "jump" or a "slump" in their sophomore year. That's the topic of the latest NFL Whip Around podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach KT Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Projecting the Best Fantasy Offenses for 2026

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2026 46:46


    It's time for another episode of the Draft Dynasty Podcast from FFSN NFL. Join hosts Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar as they discuss the best offenses to trust for fantasy purposes in 2026! The DDP is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: 3 reasons why OTAs are more important than they seem

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2026 26:45


    Today on The Call Sheet, we debut our "Monday Morning Game Plan" segment, which will take us through every Monday until the regular season begins. This episode looks at OTAs, which are currently taking place throughout the league, and explains why "football in shorts" is more important than it may seem. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: The true winners of the NFL blockbuster trades

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2026 36:25


    The NFL landscape was shaken up Monday with two blockbuster trades between the Browns and Rams, and the Patriots and Eagles. When you break down all aspects of these deals, who were the true winners of these trades? That's the topic of discussion on the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: The ripple effects of the Myles Garrett and AJ Brown trades

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2026 36:52


    The NFL world was shocked Monday when it was announced of two blockbuster trades were completed. Myles Garrett heading to the LA Rams, and AJ Brown going to the New England Patriots. Both of these trades have a ripple effect on both the 2026 season, and beyond. To break it all down, hosts Jeff Hartman and Kevin Smith talk about that, and more, on the latest NFL Whip Around podcast. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: 2026 Fantasy Football Breakout Candidates

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2026 44:16


    Welcome back to the Draft Dynasty Podcast from the Fans First Sports Network. On this week's episode, Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar list their top breakout candidates for Fantasy Football in 2026. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: How does a coach's responsibility differ as a position coach, a coordinator and a head coach?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2026 29:37


    On today's Call Sheet podcast, Coach Smith dives into a discussion on the different hats worn by coaches in their particular roles. What's the difference in responsibility between a position coach, a coordinator and a head coach? Join us for an enlightening conversation on the coaching world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: Analyzing NFL Projected Win Totals in 2026

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2026 38:15


    The NFL regular season is still months away, but that doesn't mean regular season projections aren't already out there to discuss. That's exactly what happens on this episode of The Way We See It with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman as they talk about projected regular season totals for the NFL. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: NFL QBs and Coaches who enter 2026 on the Hot Seat

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2026 36:20


    The 2026 NFL regular season is still months away, but there are some quarterbacks and coaches who should be feeling the pressure of being on the hot seat, even in offseason workouts. Who are those signal callers and coaches on the hot seat? That's the topic of this NFL Whip Around with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach Kevin Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Drafting the Top 12 QBs for 2026

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2026 47:11


    Welcome back to the DDP! Whether it's fantasy or for real, Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar have you covered on the Draft Dynasty Podcast! The DDP is a part of the Fans First Sports Network! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: 10 best rosters in the NFL, and a potential Achilles' heel for each

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2026 31:21


    Join Coach Kevin Smith for today's Call Sheet podcast, where we submit our list of the ten most complete rosters in the NFL, with one potential weakness that could serve as an Achilles' heel for each. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: How NFL teams handle aging legends of the franchise

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2026 37:04


    When there are players who have played a long time for one franchise, how the team handles said player at the end of their career is noteworthy. Some play for a different team, while others try to hang on with their team for as long as they'll have them. Either way, handling aging legends for a franchise is never easy. That is the topic of the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: Has the NFL gone too far with the schedule?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2026 35:11


    The 2026 NFL Regular Season Schedule has been released, and it raises a lot of questions about the league. - Does the league have a vendetta against some teams? - How does strength of schedule matter? - And plenty more! All on the latest NFL Whip Around with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach KT Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Dynasty Rookie Draft Primer

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2026 51:43


    Join Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar for the Draft Dynasty Podcast, your home for the latest news and notes from the NFL Draft and Fantasy Football only on the Fans First Sports Network! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: QB development, and the challenge of jumping to the NFL, w/ Coach Paul Callahan

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2026 36:48


    On today's Hot Route episode of The Call Sheet, Coach Paul Callahan returns to the show to discuss quarterback development. What challenges do QBs face as they matriculate to the NFL, and why is quarterback the toughest position to play in sports? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: Preparing for the 2026 NFL Schedule Release

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2026 32:23


    The NFL is preparing to release its 2026 Regular Season schedule Thursday, and how everyone digests this news is different. Where should bye weeks be? What about divisional contest? That is the main talking point of the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: What you can learn from rookie minicamps around the NFL

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2026 31:03


    The NFL is at the point where rookies are heading to minicamp, and it's the fans first look at their team's new players. There are some drastic knee jerk reactions from the video coming form these workouts, and some have merit while others don't. All that, and more, on the latest news and notes around the NFL on the latest episode of the NFL Whip Around with hosts Jeff Hartman and Coach KT Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Way Too Early Look at the 2027 NFL Draft

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2026 51:57


    Welcome back to the Draft Dynasty Podcast with Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar. Join the duo on a look-ahead to the 2027 NFL Draft with a full 1st Round Mock. The DDP is a part of the Fans First Sports Network! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: The Steelers should move on from Aaron Rodgers, and other post-NFL draft thoughts

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2026 27:01


    On today's Call Sheet podcast, we make the case for why the Steelers should ditch their pursuit of Aaron Rodgers, why the Mike Vrabel/Diana Russini scandal is significant, and other NFL storylines in the wake of the draft. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: A dive into the top prospects in the 2027 NFL Draft

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2026 33:11


    The 2026 NFL Draft might have just ended, but it is never too early to take a look at the 2027 prospects who are atop the list heading into next season. On top of that, who might be the teams who would be near the top of the draft order? That and more on the latest episode of The Way We See It with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: NFL Rookie QBs in the best position to succeed

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2026 32:18


    The 2026 NFL Draft might be dying down, but there are still a ton of topics to discuss as we continue to sift through the proverbial rubble. On the latest NFL Whip Around podcast with Jeff Hartman and Coach KT Smith they discuss what QBs went into a perfect position heading into 2026, teams who might have seen their stock rise this offseason, and plenty more! This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: 2026 All NFL Draft Teams

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2026 47:29


    Welcome back to the Draft Dynasty Podcast from FFSN! Join Jeremy Betz and Andrew Wilbar as they break down the results of the 2026 NFL Draft! The DDP is a part of the Fans First Sports Network's family of Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Call Sheet: Best picks, head scratchers, and did the Steelers get played?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2026 29:04


    On today's Call Sheet podcast, we recap Round One of the 2026 NFL draft. Coach Smith provides comments on every pick, plus our favorite and most head-scratching moves of the round, including how the Eagles may have pulled a fast one on the host city. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: Surprises and Disappointments after the 2026 NFL Draft

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2026 40:22


    With the 2026 NFL Draft officially in the books, it is time to take a look back at things which surprised, as well as things which disappointed. On top of that, we take a look back at an early 2026 NFL Mock Draft to see what those experts got right, and wrong. All on the latest The Way We See It podcast with hosts Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    NFL Whip Around: Digesting the 2026 NFL Draft

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2026 38:42


    The 2026 NFL Draft is in the books, and it is now time to start to digest the 3-day selection process. - Who were the best fits between prospect and team? - Who was the biggest reach in Round 1? All that, and more, on the latest episode of the NFL Whip Around with hosts Jeff Hartman and Kevin Smith. This podcast is a part of the Fans First Sports Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Draft Dynasty Podcast: Final Mock Draft Predictions for the 2026 NFL Draft

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2026 50:42


    The Draft Dynasty Podcast is back on Draft Day with Jeremy and Andrew's final predictive mocks! Tune in for the latest draft nuggets and predix! The DDP is a part of the Fans First Sports family of podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Way We See It: Talking predictions for Round 1 of the 2026 NFL Draft

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2026 35:37


    The 2026 NFL Draft is just days away, and it is time to talk about predictions for the actual event. Who will go in the Top 5? Which team will have the shocking pick to change everything? That, and much more, on the latest The Way We See It podcast with Jeff Hartman and Wesley Coleman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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