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Pendeta Diskusi Teologi is a channel led by both pastor Heru and pastor Jethro who will reflect and discuss upon every kind of theological topics. The aim here is to base these dialogues as close as possible to the truth of the Bible for a better understanding of what the Bible is actually telling u…

Pdt. Heru & Pdt. Jethro


    • Dec 20, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
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    Make Disciples of All Nations: Experience From Sarang Church

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2022 78:09


    Hi PDT Podcast listeners, it has been quite some time that we have last uploaded an episode but we are glad to say that we may be quiet but not gone. In this special episode, we asked pastor Heru to share his experience and thoughts about his visit to Sarang Church in Korea where he had joined a 2 weeks seminar regarding church discipleship. Sarang church is a church that had grown to about 60,000 members, mainly through their cohesive and rigorous discipleship program and we, in the podcast, think that its something that we should share as well to more believers in Indonesia. Hopefully this episode may encourage us to think more about discipleship in our respective churches. Tune in and be blessed! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S3E1: Introduction to "Genocidal God"

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2022 33:16


    After a pretty long break, we are finally back! Not only are we back but we are back with a whole new series. In this season, we will deal with one of the most difficult topics in the Bible: God who does genocide. How do we understand the mass killings that we see in the OT? How are we to accept that God is love when the casualties include children as well? In the first episode, we begin an introduction of this series. Tune in and be blessed --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E15: Hobbies From a Christian Perspective (Special Episode part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2021 33:39


    Continuing our discussions from the previous episode, we immediately go into the problem of hobbies as idolatry before going into the details of whether or not it is wrong for a Christian to have "fun". Finally we finish our discussions with the ways we can set our boundaries and limits when it comes to hobbies and also answering some of the questions raised to us by the live listeners. Tune in and be blessed. This session was originally recorded for a combined fellowship for youths and teens. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E14: Hobbies From a Christian Perspective (Special Episode)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2021 45:35


    In this episode and the next, we will be posting our discussions as a team with regards to hobbies. How should Christians interact with hobbies? are they good or bad? Is it a sin to find leisure in hobbies? Are hobbies a waste of time? tune in and be blessed. This session was originally recorded for a combined fellowship for youths and teens. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E13: Talking Temple Theology with Pastor Eko Aria (2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2021 45:54


    We continue our fruitful discussions on temple theology with pastor Eko Aria. In this episode, we start off by discussing temple theology proper before moving on to the false alternatives of kingdom narratives committed today. Lastly, we see how we are supposed to be involved in the proper temple narrative. Tune in and be blessed. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E12: Talking Temple Theology with Pastor Eko Aria

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2021 28:33


    We are very delighted to have pastor Eko Aria to join our discussion of the creation story! In this episode, he will share his thoughts on temple theology, a topic which he has invested much study into; however, unlike the trajectory of our discussions, he will try to speak of the negative reception of the temple, specifically Jesus' own critique of the temple in the New Testament. It has a been a beneficial and fun time recording these episodes with him, so, tune in and be blessed. Timestamps: 00:00-03:47--- Intro 03:47-17:58--- Jesus' critique of the temple 18:13- END--- Tension between tentmaker and temple theology --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E11: Let Me See, O God

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2021 34:50


    We are reaching closer and closer to the end of the series and we hope it has been a profitable and blessed journey for all listeners. In this episode, we add a few couple remarks with regards to all the things we learn from Walton's way of reading Genesis and the Torah: How do we, then, read the Bible? How does the Bible truly teach us wisdom? What do we mean when we say that the Bible is a model? Tune in and be blessed. Timestamps: 00:00-03:00--- Intro 03:00-17:24--- Law & Wisdom 17:40- END--- Does the Bible want us to merely do? --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E10: Is Torah a Legislation or Instruction?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2021 41:45


    In this episode, we pick up from where left off previously by discussing the constructive implication of understanding the Creation story in its function. Rather than just engaging in the Creation story, we borrow Walton's thoughts on the Torah to help us in laying a general constructive principle. More specifically, we will discuss on the nature of the Torah and to understand it from the perspective of an instruction rather than a legislation. Tune in and be blessed. Timestamps: 00:39-01:59--- Intro 01:59-13:48--- Torah as instruction, not legislation 14:03-23:29--- Instruction as Wisdom 23:43-28:50--- Torah's lack of comprehensiveness as a legislation 28:50-End--- Torah as a guide of justice --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E9: Deconstructing Through Creation

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2021 33:55


    In this episode, we try to sort out the implications that Walton's perspective on creation carries. It is highly important that our discussions on Creation are merely not just talks but truly has an impact on our Christian life. We will begin, first, with how these discussions deconstruct some of the current Christian stigma before going into some constructive perspective next episode. Tune in and be blessed. Timestamps: 00:00-02:17--- Intro 02:17-08:04--- Deconstructing the Age of the Earth theories 08:19-21:20--- Deconstructing our Christian identity 21:35-END--- False Spiritual Fence --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E8: What is Sabbath?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2021 31:45


    Is there anything to talk about the day of Sabbath when even God Himself rests on this day? It turns out that what the Bible calls as rest is not the same as the type of rest we assume it to be. Tune in and be blessed! Timestamps: 00:38- 05:25--- Intro 05:40-16:40--- Sabbath as Transition 16:54- End--- Sabbath as Reigning --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E7: Creation of Man

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2021 49:07


    In this episode, we discuss the creation of man from the paradigm of material and function. What do these readings tell us about the nature of man as God's image and likeness? Tune in and be blessed. Timestamps: 00:38- 01:10--- Intro 01:10- 12:22--- Material perspective of man 12:37- 24:36--- Functional perspective of man 24:50- 38:21--- Application of man as angled-mirror 38:36- End --- Implication in prayer --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E6: Day 4 to Creation of Animals

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2021 34:39


    In this episode, we continue our discussions the creation account, specifically from day 4 to the creation of animals. First, we explain how as one unified structure, the creation account of day 4 to 6 basically portrays the same underlying message as the ones before. Next, we try to put these accounts into a current perspective. Tune in and be blessed. Timestamps: 00:00-06:49--- Intro 06:49-09:49--- Day 4 09:49-13:35--- Day 5 & creation of animals 13:35- End--- Reflection: the significance of household management --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E5: Reflections on Day 1 to 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2021 41:56


    In this episode, we give our final remarks on our discussions of Day 1 to 3. Timestamps: 00:00-05:05- Introduction and update on pastor Jethro's health after his bile operation 05:05- 18:15- Significance of ANE background and functional perspective in understanding the Creation account 18:31-24:53- Reason through function 25:08- 29:30- Why Corona virus or sufferings for the matter of fact? 29:45- 35:50- Implication (1): Nature of the Bible 36:05- End- Implication (2) Effort to study the Bible --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E4: Day 1 to Day 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2021 32:46


    In this episode we apply the principles that we have discussed previously straight into the creation story, specifically the accounts from day one to three. Tune in and be blessed! timestamps: 00:50-11:33--- Day 1 11:49- 20:16--- Day 2 20:30- 29:02--- Day 3 29:17- END--- Conclusion --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E3: Difficulties in Creation as "Home"

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2021 37:45


    In this episode, we discuss the difficulties revolving around reading the creation account as a "home" rather than "house" before we continue with our materials. Tune in and be blessed. Timestamp: 00:40- Intro 01:35- Does "home" contradict "house"? 15:40- Slippery slope? 24:02- Frustrating way of reading 30:27- Must the Bible be this difficult? --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E2: House vs. Home

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2021 38:52


    In this episode, we continue our discussion regarding the creation account in Genesis. We start by addressing the concern of some that reading the Bible in its commonality with other ANE stories actually sheds the Bible of its distinctiveness. Then, we dive into the text of Genesis to show that its purpose was not material but functional; in other words, the creation account wants to portray a home and not just merely a house. Tune in and be blessed! Timestamp: 2:03- Uniqueness through commonness 11:00- Examples of material and functional 24:23- House vs. Home --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    S2E1: Creation & Existence

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2021 51:39


    We kick off the season with a new series, "Reading the Beginning", where we will explore the creation account found in Genesis 1-2. The intent, however, is not merely to explore but to bring readers of the Bible to understand how the original recipients of this story would have understood it. We believe that by going back to how the creation account was designed to be understood, Christians will be able to avoid making false assumptions with regards to the story and, of course, to better understand the Bible. In the first episode, we discuss the terms "create" and "existence" to show how misleading our modern concept are when it comes to the creation account. Tune in and be blessed. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    2020 Christmas Special: Discussions on the Virgin Birth (2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2020 59:52


    Part 2 of our Christmas special where we discuss the topic of the virgin birth. In this episode, we continue briefly on the matter of prophecy, then, explore the challenges against the virgin birth in the context of interpretation and translation. Once again, blessed Christmas and new year for all of our listeners. Stay strong in the Lord and may His Shalom be ever more present in all of our lives. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    2020 Christmas Special: Discussions on the Virgin Birth

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2020 69:24


    First off, we would like to say that: we are back! It has been a good few months where we took a break and we would like to thank all the listeners who have shown much support and calling us to post new episodes. In this Christmas episode, we discuss the matter of virgin birth, not just whether its a historical fact or not but understand it from the context of the OT. We hope you enjoy this episode and God bless. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    Goodbye...For Now

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2020 3:29


    Its the end of season 1! We want to give thanks to all of you who have been following and listening to the podcast. We truly appreciate and give thanks to everyone who has found blessings from the things we discussed in this podcast. By God's grace and your support, we have consistently produced new contents every week (almost) but, at this moment, we think that it is the right time to end the season. We shall stop pushing out contents for the time being but rest assured, we are not stopping! This shall be a time to do our research and plan out the next season so that we can continue to push out contents that we think are beneficial for all of you. Once again, on behalf of the PDT podcast, thank you and see you next season! In the meantime, spread this podcast to people you know, relive the episodes of our podcast and may His shalom be with you all. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    032: Worship Must Be Authentic!

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2020 41:47


    It is assumed that to be authentic means to be able to freely express oneself, yet, what happens when our worship merely become an outlet of our expressions? In this episode, we discuss the adverse effects when worship neglects God's edification and emphasizes expressions and authenticity. Tune in and be blessed. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    031: The Case Against Liturgy

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2020 36:43


    Can liturgy really mold us for the better? In this episode, we discuss the case against the efficacy of liturgy, specifically, on why we are hesitant to believe in things that look normal and how liturgy or ritual can avoid being idolatrous but, rather, edifying. Tune in and be blessed! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    030: Basking In The Gospel Of Consumerism

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2020 40:42


    Liturgy does not just happen in the church but in all walks of life. Arguably, one of the most prominent liturgies of this age is the liturgy of consumerism. In this episode, we discuss the four premises of this liturgy and what's our take on it. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    029: Unveiling The Curtain

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2020 31:48


    Do our habits affect our surroundings or vice versa? In this episode, we discuss how the liturgies of the world can unconsciously form us and how the church liturgy serves to unveil the wrong liturgies of the world. Tune in and be blessed! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    028: Love-producing Liturgy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2020 36:26


    How does love increase? Not just by showering more emotions or understanding but by our habit! In this episode, we discuss how habit actually builds love and how all these revolves around our liturgy. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    027: Love To Worship

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2020 26:56


    Previously, we say that "man is not what he thinks but what he loves", yet, the million dollar question still remains: what is love? In this episode, we touch on the topic of love- the what's and what's not- in relation to worship. Tune in and be blessed! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    026: Worshipper Redefined

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2020 25:09


    An exploration of the significance of bodily worship in Church --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    025: Alcoholics Anonymous & Worship

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2020 34:17


    An exploration of the significance of bodily worship in Church --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    024: Why Don't We Just Worship Online? (2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2020 31:49


    An exploration of the significance of bodily worship --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pdt-podcast/message

    023: Why Don't We Just Worship Online? (1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2020 29:59


    Especially in the context that we are in right now, we are excited to start this new series regarding the importance of bodily worship! In this episode, we start off the discussion by asking what is lost when we do online streaming for our worship. Can online worship really replace bodily worship? What are we actually doing in a worship apart from listening to the sermon? Tune in and be blessed.

    022: Last Discussions on Pentecost & Ascension

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2020 29:59


    In this episode, we tie up the loose ends on our discussions of Pentecost and Ascension. What does it mean that the Law is given exclusively to Israel? When faced with difficult texts, what should we consider? Tune in to the episode an be blessed!

    021: Ascension and Pentecost Applied

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2020 29:39


    We are close to wrapping up the Ascension and Pentecost series and blessed are you if you have been following all of it! In this episode, we discuss the applications of these events (can we even do that though?) and in particular, how it affects our view in finding a life partner. Tune in and be blessed!

    020: Ascension and Pentecost (4): The Temple Lost and Regained

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2020 40:04


    The team finally gets back together! In this episode we discuss the events of pentecost and ascension in the context of the Pentecost. How does the story of creation and Exocus speaks of a temple theology? Even if the OT speaks of the importance of God's temple, how does it affect the way we understand both pentecost and ascension? Tune in to find out!

    019: Ascension & Pentecost (3): The Law of Pentecost

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2020 42:25


    In this episode, we begin our discussions on the Pentecost. A simple research will show that the day of Pentecost was celebrated in the OT as the Festival of weeks (Shavuot). Yet, the real question is how does this relationship sheds light on how we can understand the Pentecost more biblically? Furthermore, how does the Pentecost relates to the elements of the Decalogue, of which Shavuot points to in its celebrations? Stay tune and be blessed!

    018: Ascension & Pentecost (2): The Unseen King

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2020 37:27


    Previously, we spoke how ascension is not just merely a change of location but relation. The ascension is Jesus' enthronement but the question still remains: what is the relation between this and the kingdom of God, Church, Christians and even the world as we see it today? Stay tune and be blessed!

    017: Ascension and Pentecost (1): Between Ascension and Elevation

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2020 35:11


    Today we begin a new series where we will be exploring the events of ascension and pentecost! Both of these events have been shrouded with so many theological or even cultural dogmas that we seem to neglect the context and background of the Bible itself. How do we rightly understand these important events in light of the Scripture? Stay tune and find out!

    A Very In-depth Question & Response (3)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2020 38:53


    Our final for Q&R! In the 3rd installment of our Q&R series, we dive into the question of whether or not the Bible has been doctored. In particular, we look at the ending of the Gospel of Mark which has stirred up many debates and opinions. Next, we try to answer the very difficult passage in Ps.82:6. How do we understand the use of "Elohim" in this verse? Stay tune and be blessed!

    A Very In-depth Question & Response (2)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2020 43:10


    We continue responding to your questions! Previously, we spoke how behind many of the questions raised lies an “either or” assumption, and to begin the episode, we evaluate this paradigm itself in our thinking. Believing that answering questions on their face value does not solve anything, we try to seek the variety of paradigms behind the questions and respond to that instead. In relation, we point out how authority can be derived more powerfully from a narrative form rather than principals or rules. Tune in and be blessed!

    A Very In-depth Question & Response (1)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2020 43:03


    You ask and we respond! Join our speakers as they get together for the first session of Q&R in this podcast. Typical of this podcast, we try to go as deep as we can in all of our thoughts, not satisfied with just giving a shallow answer. This is why in this episode we are only able to discuss two topics within the questions received; mainly the matters regarding predestination and the subjectivity/objectivity of beauty. Thank you for those who have submitted the questions, and enjoy the episode!

    016: Jonah (11): God's Love For Jonah

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2020 42:20


    Finally, we come to the end of the book of Jonah! In this concluding episode, we discuss how God's response towards Jonah is not an act of ignorance or pretense but, rather, love. God's concern is not merely directed towards Nineveh but also to Jonah himself. Tune in to this episode as we put a close to the book of Jonah. P.S. Remember to post any questions you have with regards to Jonah in our instagram page @pendetadiskusiteologi

    015: The Book of Jonah (10): Rejecting a Good God

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2020 36:54


    In spite of the current condition, we decided that the show must go on and did a recording through Skype. So, even if the sound quality is lower, the contents of our discussion are not! In this episode, we discuss how Jonah is furious against God not because He is evil but, rather, of His goodness and mercy. How does Jonah's reaction speak to us today? Stay tune and be blessed.

    Interview Special with Pdt. Ivan Raharjo (2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2020 34:14


    The second part of the team's interview with pastor Ivan Raharjo. In this episode, we discuss how- in the light of the many accusations such as "divine child abuse" and others- we should understand the orthodox doctrine of penal substitution. Furthermore, how do the other theories relate with penal substitution to bring us a biblical and deeper understanding of the cross? Listen to this episode while we prepare our hearts for Good Friday this week.

    Interview Special with Pdt. Ivan Raharjo (1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2020 33:30


    With regards to the coming of Good Friday, we have prepared an interview special with our colleague, Pdt. Ivan Raharjo who will speak about the 3 models of atonement. In the first part of this interview, we will go through, historically, how the cross is viewed through the concepts of Penal Substitution, Ransom Theory and Moral Example Theory. Tune in and enjoy!Take Note: we apologize for the quality of the first 20 min of the episode as there was a technical mistake. But at the same time, it shows why we have to invest on audio equipments for better listening experience.

    014: The Book of Jonah (9): The Changing of a Sovereign God

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2020 32:17


    In this episode, in relation to Jonah chapter 3, we discuss why and how God "changes". Can a sovereign God change? Why did the writer of Jonah says God regrets? Check out our discussions in this episode!

    013: The Book of Jonah (8): An Unchanging Prophet

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2020 31:13


    We are finally into chapter three! At a glance, the story seems like it is heading into the brighter side of things after the so-called repentance in chapter two. Jonah finally did what God wanted him to do in the first place and the Ninevites even listened to him and repented. However, once again, a closer look into what the Bible says about Jonah's acts will reveal to us that things are not as straightforward as they seem to be. Here, we will see that the book of Jonah is indeed not about Jonah but about the merciful God. Listen and be blessed!

    012: The Book of Jonah (7): Unrepentant Penitence

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2020 34:00


    In this episode, we find that Jonah's psalm of penitence is anything but repentance. Why must the writer misdirect readers this way? What kind of lesson, then, can we gain from this so-called repentance? Tune in and find out.

    011: The Book of Jonah (6): An ACT of Repentance

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2020 32:33


    In this episode, we explore Jonah's seeming conversion in chapter two only to find out that there is so much going on behind the scenes. What is generally thought as Jonah's turning point does not seem that straightforward once we point out the evidence. Tune in to this episode to find out what is going on and what does this unravel tell us!

    010: The Book of Jonah (5): Bad Prophet & Good Sailors

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2020 32:53


    In this episode, we compare the response of Jonah and the sailors when they were faced in a peril condition. How does this comparison help us in understanding the book of Jonah and what does it mean for us today? Listen to the episode and find out!

    009: The Book of Jonah (4): The Runaway Prophet

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2020 40:19


    We finally made it into the story itself! In this episode, we briefly recap the groundworks which we have discussed previously and talk about the matters around Jonah's escape. Enjoy the episode and God bless!

    008: Reflections On The Interview And Then Some

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2020 48:57


    In this episode, we took time to reflect back on the interview with Dr. Pratt and then some. There were questions to be answered and certain things to clarify. Not only responding to the matters of the interview, we went one step ahead to further discuss the importance of understanding the purpose of the usage of parable in the Bible. Enjoy the show and be blessed!

    Interview Special with Dr. Richard Pratt

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2020 24:12


    In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Richard Pratt to ask about his views on the book of Jonah. For more of Dr. Richard Pratt, you can also head to thirdmill.org for an abundant of theological resource!

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