Podcasts about Penal substitution

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The cross is seen as the supreme example of God's love for us, but many struggle to understand why Jesus had to die or if He had to die at all. There's no one right answer, but the Bible offers us glimpses or clues as to what Jesus's death really means for our lives. Traditionally, these “answers” are called atonement theories. The answer to the question this week is, "to forgive us." We, as humans, miss the mark. For thousands of years, some theologians explain Jesus' death on the cross as "Penal Substitution". What Jesus did was something that we cannot do. And because of God's love for us, while being just, we are (really) forgiven.

Dr. Nathan Jacobs sits down with Fr. Joseph Lucas to discuss penal substitution atonement. The discussion examines the claim that penal substitution is the biblical and historic view of the atonement. Drawing on the writings of Cyril of Alexandria and other early Christian sources, Fr. Joseph Lucas explains how the Church Fathers understood sacrifice, sin, and the work of Christ very differently from later Western models.The discussion looks at the sacrificial system of the Old Testament, typology, and the meaning of Christ's death, resurrection, and ascension. The result is a picture of atonement centered on purification, victory over death, and the transformation of human nature—not a transfer of punishment.This conversation also explores how differences in biblical interpretation led to very different conclusions about what the Cross accomplishes.Support the East West Series: https://theeastwestseries.com/ Bio: Archpriest Joseph Lucas is an Orthodox Christian priest, theological scholar, college professor, and practical philosopher. He received his PhD in Theology at Radboud Universiteit Nijmegen (Netherlands) and his MDiv with Distinction in Church History and Patristics at St Tikhon's Orthodox Theological Seminary (Pennsylvania). He specializes in research pertaining to patristic exegesis and historical theology.Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lt40zf4KpV8Fr. Joseph's parish in Miami: https://www.oca.org/clergy/Joseph-Lucas/ - His blog, Prudence and Piety: https://prudenceandpiety.com/ - His parish podcast, Apostolic Tradition: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQlnsUX0xxfCfBWmQmrrQ8w - Fr. Joseph Lucas' book: How to Read the Holy Fathers: A Guide for Orthodox Christians: https://store.ancientfaith.com/how-to-read-the-holy-fathers-a-guide-for-orthodox-christians/ - Another episode Dr. Jacobs and Fr. Lucas did together: https://youtu.be/3Yt5fItpy7U?si=0BRySP8VEQgv-9I9 Mentioned:- East Vs. West (Part 1) - Dr. Nathan Jacobs, Orthodox Miami: https://youtu.be/kVGkrtzx1DY?si=hmCwdH5YTN3hcpQn- Fr. Joseph's appearance on The Symbolic World: https://youtu.be/0FuO88QVlN0?si=8UmUZF4Cc5ZmHD1X - Fr. John Behr's book, The Case Against Diodore and Theodore: https://www.amazon.com/Against-Diodore-Theodore-Oxford-Christian/dp/0198800215 Dr. Nathan's series on penal substitution:Part 1: https://youtu.be/WHx21LQncFI?si=Y-WaG636sATOZ03S Part 2: https://youtu.be/-MXLs6J2JBw?si=XxHHcXmqnjhx4G95 Timestamps:00:00 - Coming up00:18 - Start01:27 - Introduction03:11 - Fr. Joseph's work05:24 - What is penal substitution atonement?07:41 - Fr. Lucas' background13:44 - Approaching St. Cyril of Alexandria on atonement18:00 - St. Cyril's influences23:09 - An incorrect exegesis25:08 - The Father looking away from the Son34:04 - Origen35:18 - Christ acting in the Old Testament39:39 - A discussion on the term sin56:58 - Passover01:00:28 - Substitution01:03:20 - Presuppositions: early vs modern Christians01:11:31 - Assuming our nature01:15:19 - The blameless passions01:24:35 - Testing vs temptation01:29:59 - Justification and vindication01:46:33 - Salvation is a mystery==========================Do you like this content? Join Jacobs Premium to get exclusive access to written essays, exclusive lecture series, monthly Q&A Zoom calls, and our book club. Use code: LEWIS to get a discount: https://www.thenathanjacobspodcast.com/All the links:The Theological Letters Substack: https://nathanajacobs.substack.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenathanjacobspodcastX: https://x.com/NathanJacobsPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/nathanandrewjacobsAcademia: https://vanderbilt.academia.edu/NathanAJacobsListen and please review the podcast elsewhere:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hSskUtCwDT40uFbqTk3QSApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nathan-jacobs-podcast

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By Cliff Wickman - The answer to the question "why did Christ have to die?" is a doctrine known in theological terms as an atonement theory. Our answer to that question is not unique among the millions of professing Christians. And it has a name: Penal Substitution.

Romans 5:6-11 doesn't start well. It calls us powerless, ungodly, sinners, enemies of God. We're spiritually bankrupt, down and out for the count. No amount of effort, morality, or religion can fix this problem.But here's the beauty: we're more sinful and flawed than we dare believe, yet more loved and accepted in Jesus than we dare hope for.Jesus doesn't die for His friends, He dies for His enemies. At just the right time, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. This wasn't God reacting. From day one, God planned to send His Son to die on the cross to take our sin so we'd be forgiven and made right.Jai shows how everything in the Old Testament pointed to this moment, with hundreds of prophecies fulfilled. Jesus steps in as our substitute, absorbing the punishment we deserve. Our holy, just God can't shrug at sin. Justice demands payment. Sin creates a debt we can never pay. There's always a cost. Jesus took it on Himself.The essence of sin is substituting ourselves for God. The essence of salvation is God substituting Himself for us. At the cross, justice and love meet in perfect harmony.We've been justified by His blood, saved from God's wrath, reconciled. We're no longer enemies,we're children of the King. What do we do? Repent and believe. Receive what's been done for us.

CrossWay Church - Queen City, Texas

CrossWay Church - Queen City, Texas

CrossWay Church - Queen City, Texas

In this sobering and soul-searching message, Pastor Karl dives deep into Matthew 5:17–48, where Jesus declares that He came not to abolish the Law but to fulfill it—and then raises the bar of righteousness far beyond anything the scribes and Pharisees ever imagined.Through six piercing examples—anger that murders the heart, lust that commits adultery in the mind, casual divorce, manipulative oaths, retaliation, and hatred disguised as justice—Jesus exposes the truth we all try to avoid: outward obedience is never enough. God judges the heart. Every single one of us stands guilty before His perfect standard.Yet the bad news is meant to drive us to the best news. Pastor Karl powerfully unpacks how Jesus' command in verse 48—“You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect”—is not a cruel impossible demand, but the very reason the Son of God came. We cannot achieve the righteousness God requires, so God freely gives it to us through faith in Christ. Jesus took our unrighteousness and imputes His perfect righteousness to all who repent and trust Him.A hard-hitting, heart-exposing sermon that leaves no room for self-righteousness, but ends with the liberating joy of the gospel: guilty sinners can be clothed in the very righteousness of God and stand before Him as if we had never sinned. Essential listening for anyone who wonders, “How can I ever be right with a holy God?”Watch all our sermons on our youtube channel "Flipside Christian Church"Join us in person 9:00am & 10:30am every Sunday morning.37193 Ave 12 #3h, Madera, CA 93636For more visit us at flipside.churchFor more podcasts visit flipsidepodcasts.transistor.fm

Re-evaluating Penal Substitution and Vicarious Satisfaction This talk addresses the central soteriological question: "Was Jesus Punished?" While it is undisputed that Jesus was punished by human authorities, this presentation argues against the proposition that He was punished by God. It critically examines the dominant theory of penal substitution (substitutio penalis) and advocates for a return to the classical model of vicarious satisfaction (satisfactio vicaria). The presentation traces the problem's origin to the post-Anselmian theological shift, which was radicalized by the Reformers into penal substitution. Extreme interpretations of this doctrine (e.g., L. Bourdaloue) portray God the Father as a "persecutor" discharging "divine hatred" onto His Son, creating a "toxic" image of a sadistic God while ignoring the Son's will. Three strategies for resolving this impasse are analyzed, rejecting "finding depth in penal substitution", which introduces "darkness" into the image of God, and the concept of Stellvertretung as a dialectical evasion. The preferred strategy is to restore the Anselmian distinction between involuntary punishment and voluntary satisfaction. The talk argues that Christ did not receive punishment but offered satisfaction. Defending this model biblically, it shows that "ransom" (lutron, Mk 10:45) is rooted in OT law (Ex 21:30) as a payment instead of punishment to avoid violence. It also refutes key penal substitution "proof texts": "made sin" (2 Cor 5:21) means "sin offering" (hattā't); "became a curse" (Gal 3:13) means "cursed in the eyes of Israel"; and "bearing guilt" (Isa 53) signifies non-retaliation. The talk also analyzes the position of St. Thomas Aquinas. It highlights that although Aquinas, unlike Anselm, uses the term "punishment" (poena) to describe Christ's act, he understands it as voluntarily accepted satisfaction. This is structurally distant from later penal substitution, as for Thomas: God's wrath is directed solely at sin, never at the Son, and Both act from supreme love; God the Father only permits the Passion (not positively willing it), which is the work of human freedom; and the formal, decisive element of salvation is love, not suffering itself. The talk concludes with a negative answer to the titular question, affirming a soteriology of love and voluntary satisfaction, not divine retributive punishment.

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#50 The Allegory Story (The Spiritual System Of Truth Beyond Penal Substitution)

Derek Rishmawy and Brad East engage in a conversation about the complexities of atonement, particularly focusing on penal substitution. They explore the historical context, personal experiences, and theological implications surrounding the topic, emphasizing the need for clarity and understanding in discussions about God's justice and mercy. Chapter 00:00 Pumped About Atonement 03:35 The Heat of Atonement Debates 10:49 Teaching Badly 17:32 Who's the Real Problem? 24:45 Experiential Perspectives on Atonement 32:28 History and Retrieval 44:53 New Language for Old Ideas 48:59 Calvinist Lightning Round 01:01:17 Walking the Line

Blake White continues in the series The Cross of Christ in a sermon on Penal Substitution.

Blake White continues in the series The Cross of Christ in a sermon on Penal Substitution.

Dr. Scott Hahn joins us to explore the meaning of sacrifice in the Bible—from the Old Testament offerings of Israel to the perfect Sacrifice of Jesus Christ. As newly ordained priests, we ask: Why is sacrifice central to our faith? How does Christ transform it? And what does Christian sacrifice look like in everyday life?Timecode:0:00 - Introduction 0:30 - Dr. Scott Hahn3:19 - Augustine Institute Ad3:40 - The Notion of Sacrifice 9:40 - The Progress of Sacrifice13:30 - The Essence of Sacrifice19:00 - Order and Sacrifice26:00 - Religion is Sacrificial38:10 - The Error of Penal Substitution 46:20 - The Sacrifice of the New Covenant 53:30 - What is the Paschal Mystery?57:50 - The One Sacrifice1:00:30 - Sacrifice in Christian Living1:07:15 - The Liturgy as Sacrifice1:10:45 - Postscript by Dr. Scott Hahn1:20:00 - Thank you Dr. Scott HahnSupport the show

Food Trucks kicks off a new season as Todd and Andrew explore the doctrine of penal substitutionary atonement. Is this a "die for" issue for Christians? Or should it be a secondary issue? Todd and Andrew unpack the implications of the atonement as it relates to the character of God and the significance of the cross of Christ for believers.

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In this video, Gavin Ortlund responds to recent comments by John Mark Comer suggesting that a new book may be the “final knockout blow” to penal substitutionary atonement (PSA). Gavin offers five reasons why PSA remains a vital part of Christian theology.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/MY ACADEMIC WORK:https://truthunites.org/mypublications/PODCAST: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/truth-unitesDISCORD SERVER ON PROTESTANTISMStriving Side By Side: https://discord.gg/MdTt6d5PVsCHECK OUT SOME BOOKS:https://www.amazon.com/Makes-Sense-World-That-Doesnt/dp/1540964094/truthunites-20https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Retrieval-Evangelicals-Need-Future/dp/1433565269/truthunites-20https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Right-Hills-Die-Theological/dp/1433567423/truthunites-20https://www.amazon.com/Retrieving-Augustines-Doctrine-Creation-Controversy/dp/0830853243/truthunites-20

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Cliffe & Stuart Knechtle Episode: https://youtu.be/ZSf7o3Jel_gDr. Jacobs compares how Eastern and Western Christianity understand Christ's death on the cross, examining the theological differences that emerged over centuries. The discussion traces the Western development from Augustine through the Protestant Reformers and their focus on penal substitution, while exploring Eastern perspectives from church fathers like Gregory of Nyssa. Dr. Jacobs analyzes these competing views of atonement and their implications for how Christians understand salvation and God's justice.All the links: X: https://x.com/NathanJacobsPodSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hSskUtCwDT40uFbqTk3QSApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nathan-jacobs-podcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenathanjacobspodcastSubstack: https://nathanajacobs.substack.com/Website: https://www.nathanajacobs.com/Academia: https://vanderbilt.academia.edu/NathanAJacobs00:00:00 Intro 00:01:43 The average understanding of the crucifixion 00:06:03 The Western evolution (Latin West and Protestant Reformation) 00:31:01 The Christian East and the Church Fathers 

March-April 2025 | Divine Exchange (Wk 1): Transcending Our Created Limitation (Recapitulation Theory) | Throughout the season of Lent, we unpack six theories of Jesus's atonement (that great divine exchange), exploring all the possibilities of how Jesus achieved redemption of all the world, wrestling and finding the holes in what Christians have been known to believe, and re-centering God's love in the story of redemption as we consider the lengths to which God would go and all that God would give to be with us.

March-April 2025 | Divine Exchange (Wk 3): Redeeming Our Human Debt (Satisfaction/Ransom Theory) | Throughout the season of Lent, we unpack six theories of Jesus's atonement (that great divine exchange), exploring all the possibilities of how Jesus achieved redemption of all the world, wrestling and finding the holes in what Christians have been known to believe, and re-centering God's love in the story of redemption as we consider the lengths to which God would go and all that God would give to be with us.

March-April 2025 | Divine Exchange (Wk 4): Relieving Our Judgement (Penal Substitution Theory) | Throughout the season of Lent, we unpack six theories of Jesus's atonement (that great divine exchange), exploring all the possibilities of how Jesus achieved redemption of all the world, wrestling and finding the holes in what Christians have been known to believe, and re-centering God's love in the story of redemption as we consider the lengths to which God would go and all that God would give to be with us.

March-April 2025 | Divine Exchange (Wk 5): Defeating Sin & Death (Christus Victor Theory) | Throughout the season of Lent, we unpack six theories of Jesus's atonement (that great divine exchange), exploring all the possibilities of how Jesus achieved redemption of all the world, wrestling and finding the holes in what Christians have been known to believe, and re-centering God's love in the story of redemption as we consider the lengths to which God would go and all that God would give to be with us.

March-April 2025 | Divine Exchange (Wk 6): Uniting Us with God (Participation/Theosis Theories) | Throughout the season of Lent, we unpack six theories of Jesus's atonement (that great divine exchange), exploring all the possibilities of how Jesus achieved redemption of all the world, wrestling and finding the holes in what Christians have been known to believe, and re-centering God's love in the story of redemption as we consider the lengths to which God would go and all that God would give to be with us.

March-April 2025 | Divine Exchange (Wk 2): Transforming Our Hardheartedness (Moral Example Theory) | Throughout the season of Lent, we unpack six theories of Jesus's atonement (that great divine exchange), exploring all the possibilities of how Jesus achieved redemption of all the world, wrestling and finding the holes in what Christians have been known to believe, and re-centering God's love in the story of redemption as we consider the lengths to which God would go and all that God would give to be with us.

Matt Slick Live (Live Broadcast of 03-19-2025) is a production of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry (CARM). Matt answers questions on topics such as: The Bible, Apologetics, Theology, World Religions, Atheism, and other issues! You can also email questions to Matt using: info@carm.org, Put "Radio Show Question" in the Subject line! Answers will be discussed in a future show. Topics Include:What Did Mormon Theology Originally Teach About Black People?/ Matt discusses his Speaking Engagement topic of Eastern Orthodoxy and How that many of the Adherents follow the system/Penal Substitution. What is it?/The Importance of Knowing Christian Doctrine/ What About Baptism for Infants?/ Recapitulation and The EO, What is it?/ March 19, 2025

Matt Slick Live (Live Broadcast of 03-19-2025) is a production of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry (CARM). Matt answers questions on topics such as: The Bible, Apologetics, Theology, World Religions, Atheism, and other issues! You can also email questions to Matt using: info@carm.org, Put "Radio Show Question" in the Subject line! Answers will be discussed in a future show. Topics Include:What Did Mormon Theology Originally Teach About Black People?/ Matt discusses his Speaking Engagement topic of Eastern Orthodoxy and How that many of the Adherents follow the system/Penal Substitution. What is it?/The Importance of Knowing Christian Doctrine/ What About Baptism for Infants?/ Recapitulation and The EO, What is it?/ March 19, 2025

Matt Slick Live (Live Broadcast of 03-19-2025) is a production of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry (CARM). Matt answers questions on topics such as: The Bible, Apologetics, Theology, World Religions, Atheism, and other issues! You can also email questions to Matt using: info@carm.org, Put "Radio Show Question" in the Subject line! Answers will be discussed in a future show. Topics Include:What Did Mormon Theology Originally Teach About Black People?/ Matt discusses his Speaking Engagement topic of Eastern Orthodoxy and How that many of the Adherents follow the system/Penal Substitution. What is it?/The Importance of Knowing Christian Doctrine/ What About Baptism for Infants?/ Recapitulation and The EO, What is it?/ March 19, 2025

On this episode, Keith responds to a video put out by Protestia News from Rev. Mitchell Boone of First United Methodist Church in Dallas where he argues for a unique view of the atonement and rejects Penal Substitutionary Atonement. Support the Show: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/YourcalvinistLove Coffee? Want the Best? Get a free bag of Squirrelly Joe's Coffee by clicking on this link: https://www.Squirrellyjoes.com/yourcalvinistor use coupon code "Keith" for 20% off anything in the storeDominion Wealth Strategies Visit them at https://www.dominionwealthstrategists.comhttp://www.Reformed.Moneyand let them know we sent you! https://www.TinyBibles.comYou can get the smallest Bible available on the market, which can be used for all kinds of purposes, by visiting TinyBibles.com and when you buy, use the coupon code KEITH for a discount. Private Family BankingSend an email inquiry to banking@privatefamilybanking.comReceive a FREE e-book entitled "How to Build Multi-Generational Wealth Outside of Wall Street and Avoid the Coming Banking Meltdown", by going to https://www.protectyourmoneynow.net Set up a FREE Private Family Banking Discovery call using this link: https://calendly.com/familybankingnowGet the Book "What Do We Believe" from Striving for Eternity Ministrieshttp://www.whatdowebelievebook.com/Be sure to use the coupon code: Keithhttps://www.HighCallingFitness.comHealth, training, and nutrition coaching all delivered to you online by confessionally reformed bodybuilders and strength athletes.The official cigar of Your Calvinist Podcast:https://www.1689cigars.com Buy our podcast shirts and hats: https://yourcalvinist.creator-spring.comVisit us at https://www.KeithFoskey.comIf you need a great website, check out https://www.fellowshipstudios.com

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Episode 115: Year C – The Feast of the Presentation of the Lord In today's episode, we focus on several details from the first and second readings, along with the Gospel, for this upcoming Feast of the Presentation of the Lord that are related to apologetical discussions. One detail comes from the first reading, taken […]

How can I argue against Penal Substitution? What is Transubstantiation? What is the redactional history of the Gospels? This and more in Called to Communion with Dr. David Anders.

Episode 115: Year C – The Feast of the Presentation of the Lord In today's episode, we focus on several details from the first and second readings, along with the Gospel, for this upcoming Feast of the Presentation of the Lord that are related to apologetical discussions. One detail comes from the first reading, taken from Malachi 3:1-4, and the related topic is Purgatory. Another detail comes from the second reading, taken from Hebrews 2:14-18, and the apologetical topic that this detail relates to is the theory of penal substitutionary theory. The remaining details, three in total, com…

How can I argue against Penal Substitution? What is Transubstantiation? What is the redactional history of the Gospels? This and more in Called to Communion with Dr. David Anders.

The Atonement doctrine of Penal Substitution, Jesus paying for my sins, is well established in Christianity. A majority of LDS hymns would attest to that fact. But, in reality, do Mormons really believe it?

Fiction lovers looking for transcendence? What's the difference between imputation, active and passive obedience to Christ? Sacrifice of Atonement vs. Penal Substitution? This and more in today's Called to Communion.

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Fiction lovers looking for transcendence? What's the difference between imputation, active and passive obedience to Christ? Sacrifice of Atonement vs. Penal Substitution? This and more in today's Called to Communion.

The Gospel of John depicts a real world deliverance from fear, real world healing from sin and slavery, and this is captured in John's deployment of Passover and treatment of Isaiah and the Suffering Servant, in which human evil (not God) results in his suffering and God brings mercy and healing from out of his oppression. This stands in contrast to Calvin's depiction of God punishing Jesus because he is identified with the Azazel Goat, identifying him with sin and, in many Calvinist's view, hating Christ.  If you enjoyed this podcast, please consider donating to support our work. Become a Patron!

Did God really sacrifice Himself to save us from Himself? The common and somewhat superficial formula cannot support a serious faith. A more serious look at the Gospels reveals that Jesus' sacrifice does not rescue us from God's wrath, but from sin's death.

Questions Covered: 01:12 – Did fetal microchimerism have a part to play in Mary's assumption? 06:10 – There is a practice where people fast during lent from one thing (food, vice.) Some people say that when you pray Sunday evening prayer 1 on Saturday, it is now Sunday where you feast and you don't have to fast from your Lenten fast anymore. Is this a sound practice or should one only stop their Lenten fast on Sunday? 09:55 – Is it true that the ends never justify the means? It seems that this belief would prohibit things like war. A popular moral question is; If the nazis asked you where a Jewish family is hiding, isn't it best to lie? How else can you respond? I haven't heard you speak on this and I'm interested in your perspective 13:22 – Why do priests not get to marry? Doesn’t this lead some into sexual sin anyways when they harm children in the worst cases? God gave us a holy marriage between men and women for this purpose. Why? 19:14 – If the West believes in original sin, and the Eastern Orthodox believe in ancestral sin, where does that put Eastern Catholics? I spoke with one Eastern Catholic priest who said they affirm ancestral sin, but I thought in order to be Catholic you had to believe in original sin? 21:08 – Both are good, but is it better to know history or philosophy? Concerning Catholicism or life in general (your opinion). 23:15 – I have a question concerning canon 285.2 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law. It states: “Clerics are to avoid those things which, although not unbecoming, are nevertheless foreign to the clerical state.” Is the law thinking of any special area here? Could you give an example of something that is totally fine to do for a layperson but not for a priest? 31:09 – Do you like tooled leather? 32:12 – Can you explain Vicarious Satisfaction as taught by Aquinas vs. Penal Substitutionary Atonement and is Penal Substitution the foundation for salvation by Faith Alone? 36:52 – Kinda a silly question, but when Moses, Elijah, and other old testament characters “saw God,” did they see Jesus before He was sent from heaven and born unto the world through the Blessed Virgin Mary? Or did they actually see “God the Father?” 40:41 – You have previously critiqued the philosophical version of the Kalam argument because you believe God is capable of actualizing a universe with an infinite past.  Let’s take that for granted. It seems to me that an atheist cannot make such an appeal to support the possibility of an infinitely old universe. Therefore, could someone use the philosophical version of the Kalam as a sort of “internal critique” of the atheist worldview. One can say, “What you describe is impossible without divine omnipotence making it happen.” 44:39 – To what extent is the Catholic dogma of the Assumption of Mary a potential stumbling block to reunion with Eastern Orthodox churches?  I have heard that they believe something similar, called the Dormition of Mary, but I don’t know if the belief is uniform among all Eastern Orthodox churches, or if it’s exactly the same as the Assumption. 47:59 – Why did God not give us a mortal sin (or Grace) detector so we can know with certitude what we did was deadly or venial or simply a vice? 51:00 – What if a person had no faith all its life, just refused to believe and then gets dementia or alzheimers is there still hope for them to get to heaven 52:32 – Can you please contrast the passage from Luke 1:28 where the Angel Gabriel addresses Mary with the greeting “Hail, full of grace,” with the passage from Acts 6:8 (also authored by Luke) where Stephen is described as “full of grace.” …

Pastor Mattie teaches on the penal substitutionary model of the atonement and some of its historical criticisms and the good news it presents for all believers.Support the Show.