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Brian Sandalow and Dan Santaromita have years of experience covering professional soccer in Chicagoland. They teamed up for a podcast about the Chicago soccer scene, with a focus on the Chicago Fire. There's also plenty of talk about the Chicago Red Stars, minor league soccer in Chicagoland, the U.S. women's and men's national teams, and more about the wide world of soccer. We try to have some fun, mixing insight, analysis and news with an entertaining show.

Dan Santaromita, Brian Sandalow


    • Jan 19, 2023 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 49m AVG DURATION
    • 79 EPISODES


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    What do these big sales do for the Fire?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2023 56:59


    The Fire sold Jhon Duran to Aston Villa for a club-record fee, surpassing the number Gaga Slonina drew in the summer. What do these big sales do for the Fire if they aren't winning? Brian and Dan discuss that plus go over a number of roster moves for the Fire and Red Stars.

    What the Fire's schedule looks like and the club has a new president

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2022 39:57


    Brian and Dan discuss the Fire's schedule now that the MLS schedule has dropped. St. Louis comes to Soldier Field, but the Fire won't make a trip to St. Louis this year. Plus, the Fire have a new president and it seems more likely Mallory Pugh will be staying with the Red Stars for a while.

    Offseason catch-up: Red Stars roster exodus

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2022 58:40


    The sale of the Red Stars still has a long way to go, but the team's roster is going to have a very different look after the offseason. Brian and Dan discuss that as well as Shaqiri's World Cup and an update on the Fire's training facility plan.

    2023 Fire offseason preview

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2022 50:15


    What will the Fire do in the offseason? Brian and Dan look at the Fire's recently announced contract decisions and what positions of need the team has. Plus, an MLS Cup preview.

    Red Stars crash out of playoffs; Heitz is coming back

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2022 57:10


    The Red Stars lost in the first round of the playoffs, ending their season. Brian and Dan talk about that performance and evaluate the Red Stars season as a whole. Plus, they discuss the contract renewals for Georg Heitz and Sebastian Pelzer.

    More changes for Red Stars ahead of playoffs

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2022 70:20


    The Red Stars undergo more changes in the front office ahead of a playoff game. Plus, Brian and Dan talk through the Fire's regular season finale, including what the plan should be for Chris Brady in 2023.

    What does the Yates Report mean for the Red Stars?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2022 66:02


    The Red Stars made the NWSL playoffs, but the main story of the week is the Sally Yates' report on the systemic abuse in the NWSL and what it means for the future of the club and the league. Brian and Dan dissect some of the relevant Red Stars points before discussing the Red Stars keeping the playoff streak alive. Plus, the Fire won a game on the road. Should we care?

    How do we feel about Chicago's soccer coaches?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 64:59


    The Red Stars need some help to even be alive for the playoffs heading into their final match. Brian and Dan discuss the Red Stars' chances and evaluate the first years of Chris Petrucelli and Ezra Hendrickson.

    Stadium and training facility news overshadows Fire's elimination

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2022 60:08


    The Fire were eliminated from playoff contention, but facility news takes the forefront. Brian and Dan discuss the snag for the Fire's training facility proposal and the possibility of a new stadium in Chicago. Plus, the Red Stars lost a big game, but stayed above the playoff line with two matches left.

    What's next for the Fire?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2022 53:52


    The Fire are almost completely out of the playoff race. What can they do for next year? Meanwhile, the Red Stars got two huge results in a row to stay in the middle of an extremely crowded playoff picture.

    Fire's playoff chances continue to bleed out

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2022 46:36


    The Fire needed wins, but got two goalless draws on the road. Brian and Dan try to come up with interesting things to say about a season that is slowly, but surely winding down to its inevitable conclusion.

    Is the Fire's season over? Is the Red Stars' season saved?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2022 60:35


    The Fire lost a third match in a row with another disappointing performance at home. Brian and Dan discuss if the Fire's season is already over. Meanwhile, the Red Stars got a huge win. Is all well again for them? Plus, some stadium/training facility updates and some discussion about how the Apple TV/MLS deal with affect the Fire.

    Red flags everywhere for Fire and Red Stars

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2022 52:33


    The Fire and Red Stars both had dreadful performances in important matches. Brian and Dan discuss if the Fire's playoff hopes are even still alive, if the Red Stars can turn around this current slump and more Soldier Field vs. Bridgeview debates.

    Evaluating Slonina's 2022 season

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2022 51:27


    The Fire lost badly in Philadelphia. Was that game a showcase of the Fire's limited ceiling? What was with Gaga Slonina's performance and how do we rate his 2022 season overall? Is Jairo Torres a bust already? Plus, the Red Stars are sliding down the standings and have more injury concerns.

    Fire move above the red line (technically)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2022 50:23


    The Fire won in Charlotte for a second straight road win. Brian and Dan discuss an action-packed game and the rest of the playoff race. Who should start at forward? Plus, the Red Stars got a much-needed win ahead of a road trip.

    Slonina to Chelsea, Heitz talks other moves

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2022 61:32


    Gaga Slonina has officially been transferred to Chelsea with a loan to the Fire through the rest of the season. Brian and Dan discuss what it means for the Fire in the short-term and long-term and what the next step for Slonina should be. Plus, Georg Heitz talked about other moves that might come before the transfer window closes.

    Surging Fire look like playoff contenders

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2022 46:51


    After a big win on the road, Brian and Dan discuss if the Fire are legitimate playoff contenders and what the upcoming schedule brings. Plus, more stadium drama and an intriguing doubleheader at Soldier Field coming up.

    Are the Fire back in the playoff race or is this just a blip?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2022 48:26


    The Fire won two games at home this week so Brian and Dan discuss the relevance of the wins. Is it enough to consider the Fire a playoff contender? Plus, the Red Stars get blown away in Texas and Brian's interview with Joe Mansueto produced a surprising quote.

    Ranting about the Fire while praising the Red Stars

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2022 48:14


    The Fire blew a two-goal lead and lost at home while the Red Stars came back from 2-0 down with two goals in stoppage time. Brian and Dan go on separate rants about the Fire while praising the Red Stars' ability to grind out results.

    What can the Fire do in the summer transfer window?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2022 48:48


    The Fire lost in San Jose, but now have three straight matches at home. Brian and Dan discuss how many points the Fire need to get from those to become a legit playoff contender. Plus, they preview the summer transfer window and discuss how they continue to be impressed by the Red Stars.

    Predicting the second half of the Fire's season

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 41:16


    The Fire split a pair of matches in the past week to finish the first half of the season with 17 points from 17 matches. Brian and Dan make predictions for the second half of the season and have a weird Jennifer Lopez tangent.

    Should Brian Gutierrez be a regular starter?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2022 51:54


    The Fire won a game, but remain in last place. Brian and Dan discuss what players were impressive, what it means going forward and what the Fire could do in the summer transfer window.

    Red Stars move into first place, MLS gets a new TV deal

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2022 48:56


    MLS has a new national TV partner: Apple. Brian and Dan discuss the details of the deal, how the Fire have a unique perspective on the deal and what it could mean for the league going forward. Meanwhile, the Red Stars continue to rack up points and move up the NWSL standings.

    When soccer mixes with politics

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2022 43:33


    The Fire didn't play, but Arlo White made news and Brian got passionate about the subject. Also, "the chant" returned to Soldier Field during a Mexico math. Plus, the Red Stars got four points in two matches last week, maintaining a solid start to the season despite mounting absences.

    Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 52:48


    The Fire had 33 shots and lost to Toronto anyway. Where have we heard this one before? Brian and Dan discuss what's wrong with the Fire now and if it's too late to dig out of the hole. Plus, the Red Stars are fun to watch and Brian swears a lot.

    What's going on with Gaga Slonina?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2022 54:38


    Back for a normal episode, Brian and Dan break down two difficult matches for the Fire at the New York teams. What's with Gaga Slonina's struggles? Was he affected by his national team choice? Plus, the Red Stars had a goal outburst in a road win.

    The dog ate our episode

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2022 63:37


    Technical issues plus Brian having COVID ruined our chances of a normal episode this week. Instead, here's a quick news update followed by an episode from our Patreon archive debating our favorite and least favorite MLS logos throughout the history of the league. We hope to be back to normal next week!

    Help can't come soon enough for the Fire

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2022 52:05


    The Fire got smoked in Atlanta, but the new arrivals are on the way. Jairo Torres did not debut, but Chris Mueller did. The Fire may be full strength soon. Brian and Dan discuss what the loss meant for the Fire and the team's familiar place in the standings.

    Chris Mueller is on the way and Jairo Torres has arrived

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2022 54:23


    Chris Mueller is reportedly set to join the Fire and Jairo Torres was introduced as a member of the team. Brian and Dan discuss what these additions will do to an attack that continues to struggle.

    How much help is on the way for the Fire?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2022 46:32


    The Fire got shutout again and lost, but Ezra Hendrickson was defensive about his team. How much help do they need and how much will they get? Brian and Dan discuss that and preview the regular season for the Red Stars after they were knocked out of the NWSL Challenge Cup.

    Fire crash out of Open Cup, what now?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2022 60:33


    The Fire had a big crowd for a goalless draw against LA Galaxy and then crashed out of the US Open Cup to an opponent from the third tier. Brian and Dan discuss what went wrong with the performance and the Fire's approach and what it means for the rest of the season. Plus, Joe Mansueto gave some interesting comments in a story on The Athletic.

    How big will crowd be for Galaxy's visit to Soldier Field?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2022 48:43


    The Fire finally lost this season thanks in part to a red card. Brian and Dan break down the 1-0 loss in Orlando and talk about the potential for a big crowd against the LA Galaxy this coming weekend.

    Are the Fire boring?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2022 49:34


    After a third scoreless draw in five matches, Brian and Dan discuss if the Fire are a boring team. Is that a bad thing for the team even if it leads to results? Plus, the Red Stars make a noteworthy signing and the USMNT learns its World Cup group (mostly).

    How will the Red Stars cope with Tierna Davidson's injury?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 51:05


    Tierna Davidson is out for the season with an ACL tear. Brian and Dan discuss what it means for the Red Stars the rest of the season. Plus, Fire II made its debut and another Gaga Slonina transfer rumor.

    Are the Fire good or has the schedule been soft?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2022 54:56


    Is the Fire's start for real or just a soft schedule? Brian and Dan discuss how good the Fire are after a second straight two-goal win. They also touch on the Red Stars opening win in the NWSL Challenge Cup.

    How much optimism should there be around the Fire plus Red Stars season preview

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2022 55:29


    The Fire actually scored and turned the goals into a road win. Brian and Dan discuss how optimistic we should be about the team after what we've seen in the first three matches. Plus, the Red Stars' season is about to kick off. What expectations should there be for this team?

    After another scoreless draw for the Fire, can they score?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2022 54:41


    For the second straight match to start the season, the Fire played to a scoreless draw, this time in the home opener against Orlando. Brian and Dan gab about the main talking points and some off the field stuff, like Fabian Herbers swearing about Gonzalo Higuain.

    Fire open season with goalless draw and we have a new bit

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2022 46:33


    The Fire looked better but unimpressive in a goalless draw at Miami. Brian and Dan break down the positives and the negatives from the match. Plus, a former Fire player is headed to the Premier League and the show has a new closing bit replacing whiskey of the week.

    2022 Fire season preview and the Red Stars hire a new coach

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 54:47


    The Fire signed another designated player in Jairo Torres. Brian and Dan discuss what he brings to the team and preview the Fire's 2022 season. What will need to happen for the team to make the playoffs? Plus, it remains a busy news period for the Red Stars, which hired Chris Petrucelli as their new head coach.

    Fire sign Xherdan Shaqiri and more bad news about Rory Dames

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2022 55:05


    The Fire have a new designated player in Swiss attacker Xherdan Shaqiri. Brian and Dan lead the show with what that big signing means for the Fire. Then, they dig into the Washington Post's reporting about former Red Stars coach Rory Dames. Plus, some bleak news for Chicago House.

    Fire trade for Kacper Przybylko

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2022 32:46


    The Fire have a striker so Brian and Dan talk about it on the show. How does Kacper Przybylko fit in with the team and what does that mean for the rest of the offseason?

    Offseason updates for the Fire and Red Stars

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2022 57:08


    The Fire's offseason is slowly taking shape and the Red Stars still don't have a coach or GM. Brian and Dan try to figure out the next steps for both teams while rounding up some offseason news as the preseason starts. Note: We recorded this before the Kacper Przybylko rumors and reports came out so we didn't discuss it. We'll discuss that next episode.

    The Fire will have a second team and the Red Stars make some big moves

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2021 39:34


    Sam Kerr vs. pitch invader https://twitter.com/Bcoxy2012/status/1468726641413210119

    What should we expect from Ezra Hendrickson as new Fire coach?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2021 28:39


    Ezra Hendrickson is the new Fire head coach. Brian and Dan talk about his fit, his credentials and what to expect from him going forward. Plus, VINCY HEAT

    Red Stars lose final and Rory Dames is out amid allegations

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2021 38:02


    The Red Stars lost the NWSL final and then longtime coach Rory Dames resigned just before a report from the Washington Post laid out accusations of verbal and emotional abuse. Brian and Dan discuss the fallout of the bombshell report and what it means for the future of the Red Stars and the NWSL.

    After shock semifinal win, can Red Stars win the NWSL?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2021 52:18


    The Red Stars pulled off one of the most surprising results in team history with a 2-0 win at Portland in an NWSL semifinal. Brian and Dan discuss what the team overcame to get to a third final in three years and what the Red Stars' chances are against Washington.

    Red Stars make the semis and the Fire have more drama

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2021 56:22


    The Red Stars won a home playoff game to advance to the NWSL semifinals yet again. Brian and Dan discuss their chances in Portland on Sunday. Next, they hit up the latest drama for the Fire and the news of option decisions. How is the Fire's offseason shaping up?

    Red Stars to host a playoff game

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2021 41:23


    The Red Stars not only clinched a sixth straight NWSL playoff appearance, but will get a home game in the quarterfinals. Brian and Dan talked about what it means for the club and discussed some longer-term storylines for the Fire.

    Fire win in front of 31,000, but does it matter?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2021 49:22


    Raphael Wicky interview: https://www-nzz-ch.translate.goog/amp/sport/major-league-soccer-der-coach-raphael-wicky-im-interview-ld.1649150?__twitter_impression=true&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=nuiEzra Hendrickson interview: https://annsvg.com/index.php/2021/10/15/vincentian-ezra-hendrickson-shortlisted-for-mls-head-coach-spot/

    Red Stars close in on playoff spot, Fire eliminated

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2021 46:53


    The Red Stars got two huge wins and are on the verge of a playoff berth. Meanwhile, the Fire got officially eliminated and Alvaro Medran had some pointed words. Brian and Dan discuss the diverging trajectories for the two clubs.

    Red Stars enter final playoff push, Fire near elimination

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2021 32:46


    The Red Stars lost over the weekend to fall out of a playoff spot, but are still very close to making it with three matches left. Brian and Dan discuss their huge week ahead and the closing schedule of the playoff contenders. Meanwhile, the Fire are likely to be eliminated this coming weekend and the USMNT disappointed in Panama.

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