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This episode title is a bit misleading (sorry!) because Benny is actually marking 17 years with type 1! He's away at college and while I hope to talk to him for the show soon, we just couldn't swing it in time for his actual diaversary. To mark the date, we're going to replay the first time I talked to Benny for this podcast – which I did along with my husband and my daughter back in 2016. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Find out more about Moms' Night Out - we have announced FOUR LOCATIONS for 2024! Use promo code MOM30 to save $30 off any city This is a longer episode, so I wanted to break it down a bit - and a full transcription is below. 00:00 2023 Stacey introduction, talks about Benny's 17th diaversary 03:55 2016 Stacey explains how the order of interviews and a few housekeeping notes 05:22 Slade 24:27 Lea 40:42 Slade (part 2) 1:12:15 Benny 1:26:07 2023 Stacey wraps it up   Please visit our Sponsors & Partners - they help make the show possible! Take Control with Afrezza  Omnipod - Simplify Life Learn about Dexcom  Edgepark Medical Supplies Check out VIVI Cap to protect your insulin from extreme temperatures Learn more about AG1 from Athletic Greens  Drive research that matters through the T1D Exchange The best way to keep up with Stacey and the show is by signing up for our weekly newsletter: Sign up for our newsletter here Here's where to find us: Facebook (Group) Facebook (Page) Instagram Twitter Check out Stacey's books! Learn more about everything at our home page www.diabetes-connections.com  Reach out with questions or comments: info@diabetes-connections.com Episode transcription below - our transcription service doesn't speak diabetes perfectly, so please excuse any mistakes. Thanks! Stacey Simms 0:05 This is Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. This week is my son's 17th diversity 17 years with type one to mark what's really his entry into being a young adult with T1D. He's almost 19 We're going to take a look back at when he was a lot younger. We've got a replay of the first time I talked to Benny for this podcast back in 2016. It's a conversation that also includes my husband and my daughter. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Welcome to another week of the show. I'm your host, Stacey Simms. And you know, we aim to educate inspire about diabetes with a focus on people who use insulin. I am not great about remembering Benny's exact dye aversary. And most of the reason why is because his diagnosis was very, it was prolonged, I would say it really only took a week, maybe a week or a couple of days from the time that I called our pediatrician and said, I don't like what I'm seeing Something's really wrong to an actual in hospital diagnosis and, and all the education that goes with it. But we had so many bumps along the way. And I've told these stories before, you know, a fasting blood glucose. That was normal, it was 80. And that was on a Monday. And then some subsequent diagnoses of things that we now know were just symptoms, you know, infection, things like that, that they treated, and we thought, yeah, we got it. And then finally, the A1C results, which came back five days after that initial fasting blood glucose, which is when they sent us to the hospital, all of that to say I remember the days of the week, Monday was the pediatrician Saturday was the phone call to go to the hospital. But I never remember the actual dates. Social media memories usually remind me and sure thing they came up this morning. So I'm recording this on Benny's actual 17 year diver serie on December 2, December also means and I need to tell you one quick thing about moms night out that the early bird special for Charlotte is over. I do have a promo code for you that you can use on the regular price to save $30 off. And that promo code is m n o 30. Mom's night out m and o 30. You'll save $30. With that I will put a link in the show notes. You can always go to diabetes dash connections.com. We have a mom's Night Out tab as well there now. If you go there we are announcing our next cities this week, I may have already done so. So follow on social for that announcement or click on over to the website, click on the mom's side out tab. See the new cities registration is not open for them. But you can sign up to be emailed directly when registration does open. And for more information. All right. I am hoping to talk to Benny for a new episode soon. As you know he's away at college. And I cannot wait to get that kid home for winter break. As this episode goes live. I think he's coming home in about 10 days, not that I'm counting diabetes, while he's been away has been fine. But I've tried really hard not to ask him a lot of bout it other than once in a while like you're doing okay. Right? Because we don't follow his Dexcom anymore. And I really don't know much day to day. You know, he's reordered supplies with me. So I know he's he's doing that kind of stuff. I can't wait to talk to him more. I will let you know when we're going to be taking questions for that episode, we'll post to the Facebook group for that. These conversations you're about to hear were recorded in fall of 2016. Benny is in sixth grade, his voice hasn't even changed yet. Oh, my goodness, I left in the original introduction, which gives more context. But I also want you to know, this is a much longer discussion than I remember. So I'm going to do more comprehensive shownotes with some time codes, if you want to kind of jump around on this episode and pick and choose where you want to listen. So here we go. My family's thoughts on one decade. Remember, this is seven years ago with type one. Stacey Simms 03:55 This part of the podcast is usually where I interview somebody else get them to share their story and their thoughts about living with diabetes. This is different. This is my family's story. And let me tell you, this is what I've done my entire career, talk to people interview people since before I even graduated from college. And these are the toughest interviews I've ever done. I was so nervous. But they were they were wonderful. And I was just thrilled that they agreed to even talk to me. My husband and my daughter are really not front and center. Attention people. I don't know how they live that way. But here's how it's going to go. You're going to first hear from me and my husband Slade. And then you'll hear from Leah. We're in the middle of that interview. I'm going to pause the conversation. And then you'll hear Leah's interview, because I had maybe the most Frank, honest and open conversation about our brothers diabetes that we've ever had. And then we'll wrap that up and you'll hear more from me and slay And then finally you'll hear from Benny. Oh my gosh, that kid, if you have a middle school boy, maybe you'll understand that conversation was, let's say it was interesting. There is a bit of overlap in these conversations as you'd expect. I mean, there are some events that we all talk about. So you'll hear about those things more than once, that sort of thing. Okay, here we go. I'm really interested to see what we talked about today because Slade doesn't really talk about Benny's diabetes publicly. I mean, of course, you you're very, very involved, and you talk about it, I'm sure with friends, and things like that. But it's not like you are front and center at functions. And, you know, that kind of thing over the years, I don't Slade 5:41 have a podcast, Stacey Simms 5:43 I could help you set one up. But I've been told in the past, I speak enough for everybody in the family. So I'm really interested to hear what you have to say if your conversation matches mine. Alright, so let's start 10 years ago, Ben, he was diagnosed with type one. He was not yet two years old. And Leo was just had just turned five. What I remember vividly is the month before he was diagnosed, when I was working at WB T, doing morning radio, you got the kids every morning. So you used to text me, like 730 or seven o'clock every morning and say, you know, kids are okay are off to daycare or you know, here's a funny picture. And you texted me one day and said you are not going to believe the amount of pee that came out of this kid. Do you remember that? Like the mattress is soaked in the floor was wet. I Slade 6:35 remember one morning, getting him out of his crib, right? And the entire mattress was soaking wet. Like everything. All the blankets were wet. The pillow was where the entire mattress was. So it was I'm like it didn't make any sense to me. Stacey Simms 6:53 Right. And you know me at work. I was kind of thinking when you trade off like we did because sleep had a restaurant for many years. So I had the kids in the afternoon and in the evening when he was working. And he had the kids every morning because I used to do a morning radio show that started at 5am. And I just remember thinking, not on my shift like you gotta fix Slade 7:14 which I did right away. Of course, drying the mattress out trying to figure out what happened, but we Stacey Simms 7:19 kind of thought it was a one off. Oh, yeah. Because it didn't happen again for a while. Yeah. And then it happened to get about three weeks later. Well, Slade 7:25 we noticed I think from that point on over the next couple of weeks that he was drinking a tremendous amount of liquid for a 18 month old or 20 month old. It was you know, and he would suck down a little 10 ounce sippy cup in like, you know, 15 or 20 seconds. It was absurd. Stacey Simms 7:45 So the the mattress wedding thing was in October, I think late October or something. And then of course, there was Halloween, which I'm sure didn't do him any favors. That was the year the kids dressed up. But it was the only matching costume we ever did. Leo was Ariel and Benny was flounder. And then, at Thanksgiving, we had family photos on the Friday of Thanksgiving that year. And then we went to the lazy five ranch. And I've told this story before one of my brothers was here, right brother David was there, right? And I posted that picture recently on Facebook of David and Benny with a giant glass of orange juice. And then we went to the lazy five ranch and of course Benny couldn't he was still in diapers and he was soaked and he was just laying down and he was exhausted. He felt like garbage. And then that Monday, we went to the pediatrician that Monday right after Thanksgiving, right? And Slade 8:37 then I mean, I think they did a fasting glucose and a few other things. And they thought he had a urinary tract infection knew and I already had suspicions that it was something more like it didn't make any sense. Yeah. And then it was a few days into an antibiotic for what they thought was a urinary tract infection and there was no change. And so his outward symptoms continued to be the same right where he drank tremendous amounts of water and liquid and was always going to the bathroom. Stacey Simms 9:08 Well on that Monday when we went to the doctor his as you said his fasting glucose was normal. It was 80. And then they did a blood draw. They must have found something in his urine, right? They must have found sugar in it because I remember they did a urine test to do a urine test on a kidney. They didn't Slade 9:24 remember that we had to kind of push for them to do an A1C like they it took a week or so. Yeah, Stacey Simms 9:30 but we didn't ask for A1C We just asked for a blood test. I didn't know what we were asking for did I remember holding you had to hold him down? Yes, I did have to hold them down Leah was in the hallway Leah remembers that remember some screaming? Slade 9:40 It wasn't exactly pleasant. Stacey Simms 9:44 Yeah, and then he did that they said I had a urinary tract infection. And I remember when we treated it he seemed to feel better once a day right just from the urinary because he did have one but you know job raucous or pediatrician friend down the street said to me Why would a healthy two year old boy have a urinary You're trying to keep keep looking. So I was convinced at this point that he was he had contracted a fatal disease. I was on the internet. I was looking at all sorts of horrible things. I thought he had kidney cancer. I really did. I was so scared. And then he seemed to feel better. And then on Saturday, they called us and David was still here. And they called us on Saturday and said, like it was an emergency get to the hospital. But they wouldn't. They didn't tell me why. Well, they did tell they thought they told me why because they told me his blood sugar was like, you know, 700, or the A1C correlated to, you know, I don't know what it was. But I remember thinking, He's fine. He looks fine. He's doing okay. Why do we have to rush to the hospital? But we did. Slade 10:33 Yeah. But I remember during that week that we kind of, we were guessing that it might have been diabetes? Stacey Simms 10:42 Oh, well, yeah. Because most people and you know, the symptoms matched perfectly. But I think it was the fasting glucose being kind of normal that threw me off. And I of course, went to worst case scenario, Slade 10:51 you went, you definitely went deeper. But you know, still concern. Yeah. Not knowing. And it's, it's a scary thing, when the doctor calls and says, Take your kid to the emergency room. And you go while he's walking around playing with some toys, he's just fine. So and then, of course, it's just a, it's a crash course. Right? You get admitted in two days later, you're out and you have diabetes and have to live with it the rest of your lives. Stacey Simms 11:19 Oh, you know, one thing I forgot is, when we took him to the pediatrician that first time on the Monday after Thanksgiving, when I called, we knew just enough to say he's got the symptoms of type one. We knew that much that the pain and the drinking, because of all the stuff I'd done with JDRF already and in Charlotte, and my pediatrician, Dr. Scott said, I've never seen it in anybody younger than two. Right, bring him in, and we'll rule it out. And thankfully, you know, they took us seriously because I've heard some nightmare stories of people that don't. But what's funny is, here we are 10 years later, almost every time I go to that pediatrician, and it's one of these big practices with like eight doctors, they all look at Benny's chart and we go in, they say, oh, like he was the youngest one we saw at that time, you know, and now of course, there's lots of kids that are diagnosed younger, unfortunately. But for that practice, it was it was unusual. It's pretty unique. Slade 12:07 Yeah, I just I just distinctly remember that we had to push a little bit. Yeah. To get them to think in that direction. Stacey Simms 12:15 Oh, when he walked in with AD, yeah, they tried to figure out something else. So Slade 12:19 I mean, I think all that really says is, doesn't matter what the age or what you're thinking, you have to be your own advocate, you know, in some way, shape or form, if you're not your voice, then there's an opportunity to miss something. Right? Not get a good look at it. So I think that I think that not going down the you know, the rabbit hole right? To something considerably more catastrophic. And trying to rule that stuff out. You have to, you have to ask and you have to instruct and you have to, you know, your medical team, you have to be part of the conversation, right? You can't just tell me what to do. Stacey Simms 13:04 But it's hard to in some ways, because you don't know what you don't know. But you're I agree with you. You have to we've learned this for many years. Now. You got to push you got to be your own advocate, you got to ask questions. But, you know, if I didn't know, peeing and drinking was a sign of type one, I don't think I would have known what to ask the doctor. Right. But Slade 13:19 I also think that that I don't think doctors are offended by that. I think that that helps them do what they're trained to do is help. Help people get better. And if you're not engaged in the conversation, it's a one way street. Yeah. It Stacey Simms 13:32 would help. Alright, so we're in the hospital now. And I remember he had those things. What are those things called all over you with a stick you the sticky things I had like an Slade 13:41 EKG monitor, right, and he kept pulling Stacey Simms 13:43 them off? Slade 13:44 Yeah, that couldn't have felt good. Stacey Simms 13:48 That was like when we first started using the Hulk analogy, because he was like the baby Hulk pulling everything off. Slade 13:54 Well, it's interesting, and he doesn't have any idea what's going on. Stacey Simms 13:57 But that night, we took turns, you know, you went home. I stayed. And they pretty much didn't tell us until the middle of the night that he had type one. They kind of I think everybody thought we knew. And finally I asked if they had a diagnosis. And they said, Yeah, he's got they would like yeah, he's got type 1 diabetes. I mean, they were nasty about it. But I think everybody thought someone else had told us along the way. Slade 14:19 We didn't see Dr. Werner alto second day or the next day. Yes. We Stacey Simms 14:23 went in on Saturday morning or Saturday, mid morning. We saw nurses and hospitalists there was that one horrible woman. She came in and she smelled. She didn't say anything to us, like not Hello, how are you? I'm so and so she came right in and smelled him. And now I know it was for fruity breath. Right? So when she came in, she smelled him. And you know, I am of course very calm. I said, What are you doing to my son? Who were you? She kind of explained but she kind of left us like you're not coming back and just I don't know what I said. I'm sure it was very nice. But yeah, that night we met the hospitalist. And that was when that was when he said to me, who stays home with Benny, not our endocrinologist, but but just a hospitalist, a doctor who sees people in hospital. And I was already panicking because I had my dream job. And I had health insurance. You had a restaurant you owned a restaurant is that like you can untangle from that pretty easily? You know, I'm closing the doors. When Slade 15:21 we tried to untangle from it, it took a long time. Stacey Simms 15:25 And I was terrified because it couldn't really quit. I wanted to quit my job. But I had to health insurance and I really didn't want to quit my job either. So we said who stays home with Benny? I said, nobody really nasty. And then I burst into tears. And you weren't there. And Vinnie, do not remember you were not there. He was another night. And then then he put his kidneys awake. He's 23 months old. He puts his arm around me. He says it's okay, Mommy. I was like, Dude, you better get your stuff together to myself. You bet this is your 10 year old is comforting you this is not how it's supposed to work. And that was a big turning point for me. And like the guy was great. He said, I'm sorry. He said, What I should have said is what's your situation? He's like, I'm just trying to help you acclimate? And he told us even go back to daycare. And he you know, nobody said no to us. They'll try to help us figure out how to make it work. But that moment was a big turning point for me. Slade 16:14 I don't think I had any big turning points. I mean, the only thing that I realized was, you know, when we finally did come home, and you know, I went grocery shopping. Stacey Simms 16:26 Oh my god, wait. So hold on. Let's get there. So we met Dr. V. The next morning on a Sunday. And he came in and I remember him coming in and saying hi to us and being great. But getting right on the floor with Benny. Yeah, Slade 16:39 and what I remember. And and you have a better memory than I do. But what I remember is him saying listen, based on where we are today with treating this. There isn't any reason he shouldn't have the exact same life he would have without diabetes that he has with diabetes. I mean, that was that was that just set the tone? Right? Stacey Simms 17:00 Yeah, it really did. And I remember, thank you. I will anyway, I remember, like my first questions to him, because what do you know about diabetes? Right? You know, type two, I remember thinking and asking him like, do I have to cut his toenails differently? Like? He was like, Oh, I could see, right? Yeah, take a deep breath. And like, this lady is gonna be fun. But he got right on the floor and met Benny and I don't think he had kids at that point. He did not. Yeah. And he was terrific. But I interviewed him. I said to him, you know, I'm glad to meet you. But you know, I don't know anything about endocrinology, or endocrinologist, or endocrinologist in this town. Right? Of course, I want to make sure that my child has the best. So I asked him a million questions. And he was great. He was really great. Yeah, Slade 17:49 I just think he set the tone that said, hey, what you're going to deal with is lifelong. And then that's the way it is. But it's not life threatening. Yeah. Doesn't have to be life threatening, right? Stacey Simms 18:03 He didn't he didn't come in and tell us a cure is around the corner. He talked a little bit about the artificial pancreas. I remember because I asked him about technology. He he did say that they were one of the first practices in the country that routinely gave pumps to toddlers, because this was 2006. So that wasn't happening all over the place that he thought that Benny we know down the road, we would talk about that. But he was not overly he didn't promise anything. Slade 18:30 No, actually he did. He promised us Benny would have a normal life if he took care of himself. Right? Well, that's true. It didn't make that that's Stacey Simms 18:36 true. And that was very reassuring. And he has been consistent in these 10 years. He said, The three things that he says at almost every appointment, I'm pretty sure he told us then, which was he wants to make sure that he can live a long, healthy life he's supposed to, that he has, he feels good, and can enjoy life right now. And that we find a way to make diabetes fit into what he wants to do, and not the other way around. And we've been able to do that pretty much. It's not you know, when people say, Oh, diabetes can't stop you. I mean, some of that I, you know, I shake my head a little bit or I raise an eyebrow because, you know, obviously diabetes definitely can slow you down. And there are days when it can stop you. That's okay. I mean, you know, when you break your leg, it's gonna stop you. You know, I you know, it's I know, it's a mindset more than a truism. But, you know, I think we've had a pretty realistic look at it. Yeah, I Slade 19:27 think you as you go through, particularly growing up, and there's, you know, there's minefields everywhere, right? It's just one more minefield, right? I mean, it's something else, you have to navigate it and it gets added into your routine added into the way that you think. And it's, yeah, it's a it's a burden because it's different than what a lot of your peers have to deal with. Is it a burden in it in that it can be a roadblock to accomplishing something you want to accomplish? like you and I think that way, I don't think that's true. Stacey Simms 20:02 We try not do not it's not a not a dead end road, you can make it that way. Well, it can be a roadblock that you can overcome, right. But it shouldn't stop you in your tracks. Slade 20:11 You can do a lot of what was me? Well, yeah, well, that's different, right? You can do a lot of what was me, but there isn't. There's a, there's a roadmap to accomplishing what you want to accomplish with diabetes. All Stacey Simms 20:24 right. Speaking of routine, let's talk about that grocery store. Slade 20:28 That was hysterical. So, you know, of course, you know, when you talk about diabetes, you talk about carbs, right. And as you load your body up with carbohydrates, you need insulin, Stacey Simms 20:38 oh, and I should add, we were put on a carb counting regime or a carb counting routine. Immediately. We didn't do any eat to the insulin, it was all give them as many shots as you want, right? And count carbs and dose him that way. Right. I mean, obviously, at first, we tried not to give him a lot of injections. But we were some people go on different routines at first, right? We weren't, we were all carb counting from the beginning, Slade 21:00 right? But it's really all about, you know, the basics of understanding how to take care of yourself is you have to know what you ingest, right? You have to know what you eat. And you can give yourself insulin to help your body, right, continue to move forward and act the way it should act right by adding an insulin. So we're like, you know, maybe we should really go low carb or no carb. So I went to the grocery store, I think I spent two and a Stacey Simms 21:30 half hours. That's what I was gonna say. It was definitely two hours. And Slade 21:34 I it's I think I know the label of every item in the grocery. But I just went and bought everything that was low carb when he came home and put it in the cupboards and put in the refrigerator and he loved some of the food and fed it to him for a few days and then realized we were feeding him fat. Yeah, Stacey Simms 21:50 we did two weeks almost of Atkins, basically. And I lost about six pounds. It was, I'm sure that had nothing to do with being crazy. But yeah, I mean, we went from eating, moderate. Everything in moderation and pretty healthy. I mean, our kids were five and not an almost two. It's not like they were drinking soda and McDonald's all the time. But we were eating things like oatmeal for breakfast and pancakes and stuff. And we went to eating sausage. And I don't it was ridiculous. Like everything Slade 22:19 was a lot of me. Yeah, it was a lot of meat and a lot of cheese. And we realized is we're just gonna, we're just eating fat, and we're gonna kill him. So after a couple of weeks, I actually threw a bunch of that stuff out. But Stacey Simms 22:29 the turning point for me or the final straw was when you were like, how about pork rinds? That's a good snack. He's doing we're Jewish. I mean, we don't keep kosher, but I don't remember. I was like, that's, I know, many people enjoy pork rinds. I'm not. I don't, I bet he would love them. Now. You can find some things, I mean, olives, beef jerky, Slade 22:56 just remember kind of throwing it out and go, that's it, we're just going to, I'm going to feed him the way we would normally feed him. And, and we will treat him medically the way that we are given the tools to do it. And that's what we're gonna do. Stacey Simms 23:08 And we also counted every carb tried to do it exactly. I think it's I think the whole thing, we figured it out two hours of routine to our day, because we had a yellow legal pad, right, we wrote everything down. We've got all the food, the dosage, the routine, but we were counting carbs, and ketchup, and green peas. And I mean everything because that's what we were told to do. Right. And I remember going for a follow up, when you go for free first followed two months later, one month later, and there was a mom and dad was like, really? This is excellent. But you do not need to do with the two cards that are in the ketchup. Well, Slade 23:40 I still think actually, that's kind of important, because you need to understand that it's out there. You need, I mean, their cards, you're ingesting Stacey Simms 23:47 what we need, and we needed to do it then to learn. Yeah. Slade 23:49 And that's what happens is you learn you know, kind of what carbs are, where they are, where they're hidden, how your body reacts to them, particularly how Benny's body reacts to them. And then it's really kind of an art at that point, right? It's not really a science. I mean, there's all kinds of ratios and logarithms and all that stuff. But it really comes down to everyone's body is a little different. And it's it's much more like juggling right than it is like anything else. Stacey Simms 24:27 I'm gonna pause my talk with Slade here and bring in our daughter Leah. She's three years older than Benny four years ahead in school because of where their birthdays fall. And about 40 years older in maturity right now, you know, it's okay to say that I was so happy she agreed to talk to me about this. And this might be the best discussion we've had about her brother and diabetes. I will say I remember a few things a little differently. But this is her story. Alright, so let's start at the very beginning. I when I talked to dad, we talked about when Benny was first day He noticed and one of the things that I brought up was when we had to take the first blood draw. You were outside of the doctor's office. Do you remember that? No, Lea 25:08 I remember the electrodes, but and him always pulling them off. But I don't remember the blood draw. We Stacey Simms 25:13 because you went to the pediatricians office with us. And he was screaming his head off, and you were in the hallway. Because you were just you just turned 508. Lea 25:21 I think I do. Remember I was playing with my LeapFrog. And I was sitting in the hallway. And I was like, I would hear screaming, but I'd be like, Oh, it's whatever. It's fine. I'm gonna play my game. Stacey Simms 25:33 And then we went when Benny was in the hospital. You remember the electrodes and Uncle David was with that Lea 25:38 was funny. I mean, because I didn't understand what was going on. So it was funny, because he had electrodes all over him. And he would just like, pull them off. So they couldn't do anything. And I mean, he was crying and like, you were very frustrated. And I'm just laughing because I had no idea what was going on. Stacey Simms 25:52 And then the next day, we actually went ice skating. It was our community ice skating thing with when we were making the temple. It was like our first time though, into the ice skating rink. Lea 26:01 Did the rabbi go, Stacey Simms 26:03 I don't think they had the rabbi yet. It was just us. And you were very little. Okay, so you remember, okay, so what do you do you remember, like, what kind of things you remember from when you were little. Lea 26:14 I remember very general stuff. I don't really remember like specific instances. Like when he was first diagnosed, I didn't think anything was wrong. But apparently he was like, drinking too much and peeing too much. And I was just like, Yeah, whatever. Because I was not the biggest fan of my little brother. And I remember, as he got older, and I think it was more, I was less of like a small child and more of like, preteen, I was very upset because he'd always get so much attention, which now it's like, you get it, because it's an awful horrible thing and all blah, he needs all this stuff. But as as a small child, it was like, pay attention to me, Mother, I exist to you have a second child who was actually your first child. But you know, it was cool. I was an only child for four years, which was a wonderful thing. Stacey Simms 27:03 It was like, almost three years. Before, it was three Lea 27:07 years. Like for almost four. Stacey Simms 27:10 It was almost three, it was three U turn three, November, whatever. And then he was boring. Okay, very similar. But I remember a lot of when you were very little as you were a big helper. Like when he was first born, you would help me with the help with the baby, you would help with diapers, you would read to him every night, you know, to get sick of him all that stuff. And the same thing with diabetes. You wanted to learn how to do everything. You guys would give shots to the stuffed animals. Lea 27:35 Oh, yeah. The Little Bear and there were like little patches on it. Yeah. That's Rufus the bear with diabetes. Oh, that's fun. Stacey Simms 27:44 That's nice. And right. So you would do that. But you were very helpful to me in the backseat of the car. Because when you have a kid in a baby seat, basically, right, he was in front facing. I don't remember what the requirements were now. But like, you'd have the three point harness the five point harness those kinds of chairs. And so you were next to him? And if he was low, you you actually checked him once or twice for me when you were like five or six years old. You did? And then yes, and then you but not often, but you were very responsible. And you were like I'll do and usually I would pull over if I needed to like if dad wasn't mad. That's I mean, it wasn't making you do it. But you did it once or twice. But you were always willing and helping me the juice boxes and stuff like that. So much Lea 28:23 has changed. Stacey Simms 28:27 But then as you got older, like you said, it became more of a why? Why him? Why are you giving all the attention kind of thing? Lea 28:34 Because I never, I mean, until now I never really fully understood what, like, why he got so much of the attention. It was always just like, you spent so much time like talking to him talking about him, like calling people about it. And just you had all this you had like Lantis and Hume along, whatever all that stuff is just words that I hear around the house. But you had all of these packages shipped, like every couple of months or like, whatever you would go to these conventions and the walks and it was just like, well, let me do my walk, Dude, where's the layup walk? Stacey Simms 29:09 Do you think we should have done a better job educating you about diabetes? Because I feel like we did tell you it's Lea 29:14 not that I wasn't. It's not that I didn't really understand what it was it was just that like, I was a child. And I still am a child, but it's like, pay attention to me pay attention to me. It wasn't that I didn't know that it was some awful thing that he like needed to have all this attention because I knew that it was just like, why can't I also have attention? It wasn't like I was trying to take it away from him. It was just like me to say him. Stacey Simms 29:37 What would your advice be to parents listening to this who have a kid with type one and other kids who don't in the family? Lea 29:43 Well, you certainly don't have to. You shouldn't like take attention away from a child with diabetes just because one of your other children is feeling a little like left out but that doesn't mean that you can be you can totally ignore that child because they're still like They're your child. They're there, they need you. But it's, I think it would be better if you if someone explained to me that, like, if you'd like sat me down, and with Benny, and been like, this is what's happening, blah, blah, blah. This is why we give them so much attention. It's not that we don't love you. And just something like that. And sure, I probably still want to complain, but whatever. Like, it's fine. Stacey Simms 30:23 So like, the little things that we tried to do, like weekends away, or just you and me stuff like that, like spending, Lea 30:29 spending a weekend with my dad or with my mom, like, that's great. Because it's, it shows like, sure you spend basically every second of every day worrying about this other kid. But you still have time for me, which is pretty awesome. Stacey Simms 30:43 So tell me about camp a little bit, because this is something that you and Benny share that you do not really share with me and your dad. You I don't know if you remember, but used to come home from camp. This is the regular summer camp slip away for about a month. And tell Benny, it's gonna be so great. You're gonna love it, you know, can't wait. So you would go and I would always think there's no way. There's no way and you were ready to go when you were eight. And when he was eight, I was not ready for him to go. But we sent him anyway. What? Do you remember why you want them to go? Did you just think he would have fun? Lea 31:14 Well, I mean, when he first went, what unit like, well, how old was I? When he first went? Stacey Simms 31:21 Well, he was bony one. So you would have been three years older than that. I don't know how we can never keep track of those things. Well, he Lea 31:26 was like eight when he when he was eight. So I would have been like 11. Yeah. So at 11 It was still very much like it will because because of the fact that he's had diabetes, and we've known for so long. It's just kind of part of our lives. And I don't think of it as like this huge deal. Like it's just something that he just has to deal with him. It's like whatever, because he's a normal kid. It's not like, it's not like some other things that people can get where like you see, like, what you see the symptoms or you see, like the damage that it does, it's just sort of something that you have to deal with. And it's just like, whatever. So, I mean, it never even occurred to me that like he wouldn't go to a sleepaway camp, because that was just like, oh, yeah, it's like, Andy has diabetes. It's like, he's got brown eyes. He's got diabetes, like whatever. So, I mean, it was it was just, like, such a fun place to like to go and to get away. And it was, like, you get to do so much there that you don't really get to do at home. And it was never, it was never about him. Like, oh my gosh, he's my brother. I love him so much. I want to come to camp. It was like, I want you to experience this wonderful place. But it was it was never, it was never about the diabetes. It was just about him wanting to like go, Stacey Simms 32:37 I don't think he ever would have gone if you hadn't been so excited about it. Because that was part of the reason I wanted him to go because you liked it so much. That was wonderful. Yeah, he's really has a good time there. I mean, I'm so glad you had such a great experience to Lea 32:50 take my place. Okay, Stacey Simms 32:52 okay. All right. So that was great. I can't Unknown Speaker 32:55 go anymore. Yeah, Stacey Simms 32:56 you're too old for camp. Now. That stinks. No, Lea 32:59 but I can go back this summer if I wanted to. Next summer next summer. Yeah, but I don't think I would I might be counselor, be counseling Stacey Simms 33:06 keep your brother in line on the different side of the camp. Okay. Has since since Benny was diagnosed, I know you've met other kids with type one. But you don't come to conferences much. So it's not like this is a hey, it's a type one atmosphere, you know, other than the walks and things? Do you feel that? First of all, have you ever talked with someone and I haven't really been asked this question. But like, do you feel like knowing about Benny's diabetes has maybe helped you get to know other kids with type one better? Lea 33:38 Not really, I mean, most of the people that I talk to, like kids my age, or adults or kids Benny's age, it's always, like, that's just sort of a thing that we both know about them that they have diabetes. And it's we don't, I mean, the most that we would ever talk about is like if they were low, or if like they had to bolus for something, and it would never be like a big deal. And most of the time, we would just talk about like, other things, just because, I mean, for me, I'm just so used to my brother having it. And for them, they have it, so they just kind of have to be used to it. So neither was ever make a big deal out of it. And it's just kind of like whatever, Stacey Simms 34:11 it would be kind of weird. For teenagers, you'd be like, so tell me about your type 1 diabetes. Lea 34:18 You wouldn't. I mean, you can certainly have a conversation with somebody else about it if you don't have it yourself. But I mean, unless you're like you're very new to what diabetes is. It's generally not a big deal. Like if you're talking to somebody who has diabetes, you generally know they have diabetes, and that's why you're talking to each other. So it's never really like a major point of discussion. If that makes any sense. Got it. Did Stacey Simms 34:47 you ever have a moment where you were scared with Benny? Lea 34:51 There was I was like, it was like five minutes where you first showed me an epi pen like in case he got like really low. Oh, the glucagon, glucagon. It's an epi pen. Stacey Simms 35:05 But it's okay. But it looks like the same thing. Lea 35:07 It does the same thing. And I remember like you came up and you showed me and it was like, this big red needle or whatever. I'd never seen anything like it. And you're and you explain the whole thing to me. Like if Benny gets really low, or this happens, or if he passes out, you have to stab him in the thigh with this giant needle. Like, if nobody else was around, you have to do it, or he's gonna die. How old was like nine, five? Stacey Simms 35:30 No, I don't think I'm kidding. I don't remember how Lea 35:35 it was before I turned 10. I remember this. And I was just like, What on earth is this? You want me to stab my brother? If he's like lying on the ground? But and you're like, keeping it in the cabinet downstairs? And it's like, what is this? But I mean, other than that, it's pretty much been totally normal. And Stacey Simms 35:52 it's funny because some of our babysitter's we found because of diabetes, and you've learned to be really good friends with them, which is pretty cool as you've gotten older. Yeah. But Lea 36:01 it was never because of their diabetes. It was just like, oh, you know how to take care of yourself. You can take care of our child. Well, it Stacey Simms 36:07 was for us it was for you had nothing to do with it. What do you care if they had diabetes, it was just one of those things that we felt, we just fell into these great, we found great people. And, you know, like our neighbor, Christina, who was diagnosed as a young adult, and now she's family friends, which is really nice. She's pretty awesome. She is pretty. So family is pretty awesome. Do you worry about Ben growing up with diabetes or being an adult with diabetes? Now? Have you ever even thought about it? Um, Lea 36:29 I'm not worried for him. Not, not with him being able to take care of himself because he's totally capable. I'm just worried about like, what other people might say about it. Because when, because, people when you hear diabetes, you think of like, generally what people think of diabetes I think of as normally type two, which you can get, which is like, generally related to like obesity, or just being overweight and not healthy. But he has type one, which is totally different. And I just, I don't know, kids are mean. I mean, really, kids are kids are mean. And I don't know, I'm not worried about him. I'm worried about everybody else. Stacey Simms 37:06 In what they're gonna say that you'll beat them up if they're meeting of course. Alright, let me just make sure before we start, people had questions. I think they were mostly for Benny, but somebody did so offended. Will do me a question. It gets all the attention. I Lea 37:21 know. Isn't it? Great? Let's see if all this it's okay to complain about your sibling getting all the attention. I think that's a great point. Stacey Simms 37:30 Definitely. It's okay to complain better than season. Lea 37:34 See thing. Don't hate your parents. They're just trying to keep your other sibling alive. Oh, Stacey Simms 37:40 this was an asked these questions. I would love your daughter's perspective. Did it cause her to be jealous? attention seeking, seeking? And how does it feel to have to worry about him? Or do you worry about him? Well, Lea 37:52 I'm gonna go with the second part of this because I feel like I've already addressed like the first part of this question, but I don't really worry about him. Like at all. It's always I know, you and dad worry about him all the time. Because it's like, what if he's not bolusing? What if he's really high? Like what's going on? But I'm just like, whatever, you can take care of himself. You won't let him die. It's okay. There's a hospital down the road, he'll be fine. I mean, I probably should worry just a little bit more than I do. But it's just, it's part of my life. It's part of his life. It's just, it's something we have to do. Well, I Stacey Simms 38:23 think what we tried to do was to make you aware, but not to make it your responsibility. I just never felt like it was your responsibility as a kid, everybody. And if you remember when he got on the bus, he was in kindergarten. So you were in fourth grade. And people a lot of people said to me, Oh, well, it's what a relief that he's on the bus because even though you can't be with him, Leah's there and she can take care of. And I never felt what I told you at the time was, you don't have to worry about his diabetes, just take care of him as a sister and brothers should take care of each other. We told him that to like, if somebody's picking on you, he needs to stand up for you. And vice versa. If you get sick, he needs to holler for help. You know, it's just that kind of stuff. It was never diabetes specific. And I know you guys looked out for each other all the time, or didn't you sit next to each other all through elementary school? Lea 39:08 No, for one grade, Stacey Simms 39:09 I think Did you really say that? I was kidding. No, Lea 39:11 I think it was no, I remember because I was in like fourth grade. So I was I was like, slowly like into like the cool part and like the back of the bus. And I was really excited about it. Because like me and all my friends. We sent like the ferry back and it was like, Oh my gosh, we're so cool. We sent back the bus. But the bus driver, it was Ben he was in like second grade or like, I Stacey Simms 39:30 don't know, I remember this. This was in kindergarten. We foster going to school to major sit together. Lea 39:34 He sat in the very front row, right? They were terrified right behind the bus driver because they were like, what if he like passes out? What if he goes totally insane where he doesn't have any food. And so they made me sit with him? Because I was at SR and like, I knew that they were olders I knew it was going on and I could like call like my mom because I knew your phone number. And I was very I was very upset. But you did Stacey Simms 39:56 that for like a week or yeah, I've been told Does Yeah, there was no, yeah. And then you were like, Mom, we need to address Lea 40:04 this. We have an issue. That's Stacey Simms 40:06 great. I forgot all about that. And he was happy to see you go to Yeah, we Lea 40:10 were both like, Go away. Get away from because my brother like he couldn't talk to females on the bus because they're like, why is your sister with you are like really awkward because like, he was like in kindergarten and I was like a cool fourth grader, not really. And so, and I was just upset because I was like, I want to go sit with my friends. Now. I don't want to do my little brother like ill. Stacey Simms 40:30 And on that note, thank you so much, sweetie. This was great. No problem. You're listening to Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. I am so proud of her. Even though I was biting my tongue a bit. I mean, we explained diabetes a lot with her. I am sure you know that, you know. And yes, she knows an epi pen and glucagon are not the same thing. But wow. That was that was nice for me. That was really great to talk to Leah. All right, let's go back to me and Slade. And when we left off, we were started to talk about how we try to make diabetes fit into our life, rather than making life revolve around diabetes. Before before we left the hospital, though. We had a long planned event with our congregation. That that year that summer, we had also decided to help start our temple, right. That was that summer and then this this winter, this happened. But we had a an ice skating. I had planned an ice skating event in downtown Charlotte for the Sunday the day after Benny was diagnosed. So we were still in the hospital. And we talked about it and you said you should go right. And I didn't take Leah. And so you went to the hospital that day, we traded off. And I took Leah to the ice skating rink and I was really nervous. And I was really kind of upset about leaving him in the hospital. I'm so glad I did that. I'm so glad I did that. Because it showed her that life goes on. It kind of convinced me that life goes on. It was a great fun event. And our friends and our community were amazing. They were just amazing. It was so supportive of me. And they made sure we had fun. It was great. I'm so glad we did that. That was cool. Slade 42:17 Yeah, I think that kind of sets or maybe not on purpose, but kind of set the tone for how are you we're trying to normalize we we work really hard and normalizing our lives. In fact, we live our lives first and treat diabetes second, almost, right, because it's just part of what you have to do. It's kind of like you have to put your shoes on if you're gonna go outside, right. So you have to treat your diabetes when whenever you're out and about so. But I think that kind of set the tone for it, right? I mean, because you can you can get into a dark place if you don't. Stacey Simms 42:50 Well, and Dr. Dr. V. also told us probably that day, or the next day, don't buy him a pony for checking his blood sugar. Right. Don't reward him unduly because this is not going away. Yeah, it's not like, you know, oh, boy, I Slade 43:04 think you started looking at ponies Stacey Simms 43:06 I would have looked at I was looking at Porsches looking at everything. It's really funny. You know, it's it's interesting to when you talk about life goes on. I think we put him back in daycare, right? Three days later? Slade 43:19 Well, we're very fortunate. Was it three days high? It Stacey Simms 43:22 was very soon, probably within a week. And we were lucky. Slade 43:25 But we were very fortunate in that the people who are the managers at the daycare center, had had some experience, and then took it upon themselves to go and get more training. Yeah, it was crazy. So we were really fortunate, but that that wasn't common than it was only 10 years ago isn't common, but it's very common now. So I think the challenges that people have about daycare are they're much easier barriers now than when, even just 10 years ago. Stacey Simms 43:56 I would say that there are more resources to help. But I think that daycare is a huge challenge for a lot of people. I don't know how lucky we were. Slade 44:06 Well, no, I don't disagree that it's a huge challenge. But it's there are more and more kids that are diagnosed that come through the doors at daycare centers, and they are their experience level is much higher than it was 10 years. Stacey Simms 44:19 Well, what happened with us was there was a family right before us with a little girl and the mom was a teacher and a nurse. It was crazy. So she had made a whole guide book for them and came in and trained a few people. And so when we brought Benny they knew more than we did I wanted him to sleep there. I kind of did no no. And and Rebecca who was the manager who really just became part of the family for a while. And one or two of the teachers, as you said they did more training. I sent them to one of the JDRF training days and they learned along with us they were absolutely amazing. Then that little girl moved just like three days after we came back from the hospital so they weren't even there. And then the other thing I remember, I should probably stay chronological but I'll skip ahead We had a planned trip with my friends, my college roommate with Beth and Dave, to Las Vegas in. Slade 45:06 But you know, back to the daycare thing, I think the key, the key to that is, and it's kind of the way we've always dealt with it is, our objective is when we put our son in the care of somebody else, particularly early on, our objective was to make them feel as comfortable and as confident as possible, that they that they could take care of them there or, you know, we didn't put pressure on them to say, you know, you were worried you're not going to be able to, or we were scared parents, we let them know that, you know, it's if you have to dial 911, you dial 911, it's okay, you do the best that you can with the tools that we're giving you and the tools that you have. And I think that that's, that's a hard hurdle for people to get over. But I think if you get over that, you get a lot more help. Right, and you get a lot more people who, when they're when your child is in their care that they feel confident, we all know that feeling confident, no matter what you're doing, helps you perform better. So we really worked hard at trying to instill confidence in the people that were at times across the years taking care of our son. Stacey Simms 46:16 I think we were also the beneficiaries in a weird way of less or no social media. You're not on Facebook a ton, and you're not in all these diabetes groups. But I think if if I had been when Benny was diagnosed, my outlook might be different. Because some of them have 1000s and 1000s of people in them and everybody's experience is different. And you know, it is on Facebook, you only see the best and the worst. And people post a lot of nightmare stories that other people assume are the norm, and they're not. And I think I would have been more frightened, I would have loved the support. I mean, we had nobody up here for the first couple years. We didn't know anybody. But I think that that that has added to I don't want to do a whole thing on social media here. But I think that has added to some of the fear was, Slade 47:01 I think that and because social media wasn't as prevalent as it isn't, it's the same thing, right? You believe half of what you hear and less than what you read, right? I mean, it's you have to make decisions based on your own experiences. And it's okay to view other experiences and see how they might, might influence what you're doing. But you can't, you can't say it happened to that person. So it's going to happen to me. Exactly. Stacey Simms 47:26 And I will say he was great. I mean, he had highs, he had lows, he was always safe and happy, which as you know, if you listen, that's my goal is not perfect, but safe and happy. And the one time he went to the hospital was Was he he just got his thumb caught in the door. You remember he did Slade 47:41 the same thing that other people do at daycare, they get hurt falling down, you know, somebody threw a block at his head, right? I mean, that's the same kind of stuff. And you Stacey Simms 47:51 needed stitches. That was the one thing. And I was so nervous, because that wasn't too long after diagnosis, maybe a couple months, and I'm still nervous, because my oh my gosh, how are we gonna manage diabetes? Fine. It Slade 48:01 was fine. It was easy. Stacey Simms 48:02 It was easy. So the next big thing that happened in terms of life goes on was we went to Las Vegas with my college roommate. And I called my mom because she was going to come watch the kids and my parents lived in Florida. And I said, you know, I don't know if we should do this, you know, should we stay? And life goes on. You have to go you have to go. She said, You know, this is not you know, I'll do it. I'll do it. So as we started talking about she said, but I can't give them a shot. I got it. And you know what? I think she would have if she had to she would have right? Yeah. But we were very fortunate one of the girls from daycare, who was as she was trained to be a nurse, right? She was nursing student, Kristen. She was so she came over. I met her she stayed here. But she came over and did all the insulin at the weekend. And you know and mom called us a ton we were in was the Aladdin was it? It was it was the end of the Aladdin right? Because they Slade 48:59 Yeah, it wasn't. Oh, yeah, it was yeah, they return it they were tearing Stacey Simms 49:03 down around us. And so I remember distinctly like taking a call from her getting in the elevator on the Aladdin and losing the call. And then she called me back. So when we when we mean it, but we had a great time. Slade 49:15 Was that before the show we went to what show the show when Dave Stacey Simms 49:19 No, that was that was months after the show was the following weekend. It's what you tell us. Okay, so when you tell I'll tell the story. So one week after diagnosis. We're so fortunate. My brother in law David Slate's brother says four older brothers. And David is closest in age to him. So David was staying us for like a month after Thanksgiving. It was great. He was in between jobs. And he's just so close to my kids. It was wonderful. Unfortunately for him, he was here for diagnosis. So we had tickets to spam a lot. Me and you that following weekend. So again, David's like go go I've got it. I mean, David knew just as much as we did at that point. Yeah. So we get three numbers into spam a lot. I mean to know if it was that lady of the Like, I don't know where that is, or maybe I made it up. And, you know, in the phone rings, so you go out to take the call and like 15 minutes later yeah, it wasn't because I saw three numbers I think you saw like, and I went out to see what was going on. And he thought, you know, when you think about how you dose a little kid, he was 27 pounds. He was 23 months old, and he got like little puffs of insulin. But we were using syringes, right? So he would get like a quarter of a unit or you tried to estimate a half a unit and I think he was supposed to get a half a unit and David gave him six units or something like that. Or two, you couldn't have taken two units. I mean, he had this tiny little dose and David thought he gave him four times as much right? So we couldn't figure it out. So we just said forget it. We went home. As I remember Slade 50:43 on our way home. We were driving home and he had it under we never stopped him. Did we? Yes, of course. We Stacey Simms 50:49 came home. Okay, we we didn't come home. I thought we went right to the NATs house. Okay, so he's but But what happened? Is we checked or he checked. Isn't that funny? I can't remember either. We're getting old honey. So he checked or we checked and his blood sugar never felt right. He was perfectly fine. He was like, I'll make it up. He was like 150 all night. I mean, never fell. So he couldn't have possibly either do injection? Or he never miscalculated, right? Or, or Benny snuck a pizza in the middle of the night that we didn't know about. And so we were on our way home, right. And a friend of ours had had a holiday party going on that night. We're like, I will just go there Slade 51:22 just fine. So the we left the show early, right. I mean, we're 20 minutes into the show. We laughed. We're driving home talking back and forth with David and realized he was fine. So we kept going went by the house and went to a friend's holiday party. Stacey Simms 51:35 We're terrible parents. No, we're not. I don't think we're gonna terrible parents either. That's really funny. Yeah, and that we never saw spam a lot. No, I still haven't seen it. Slade 51:48 I mean, I want to I don't know if I could bring Benny Stacey Simms 51:55 All right, um, I promise we won't go year by year, day by day through the 10 years. But just a couple of quick things about the Look at me. Like, are you sure? Slade 52:06 I don't have a good enough memory to do that, please. Stacey Simms 52:10 Benny, God has insulin pump. We talked about that with Dr. V. Right from the beginning. And he got his pump. We went to our educator to Lynette Right. And, and we said, I remember saying give me the one that's easiest for me to use, and will be the best for him. Because I was really scared of how complicated it was gonna be. And we wound up with the atom is 2020, which is what they had back then. And I showed it to Benny, and he threw it across the room. Got Slade 52:40 your hand and chucked it. Stacey Simms 52:44 Maybe this won't work out so well. But he was two and a half. You know, we kind of explained to him what the deal was. And you know, this will be a big shot every three days. But not all the shots in between that by this point. He didn't care. You could give him a shot. Slade 52:55 He would just stick his arm up like shot, he raised his arm you give me I put his arm down. He Stacey Simms 52:59 didn't care at all. At that point. He was so so good. And so used to it. But that night when he had the pump, because we had the sailing trial for a couple of days, he said, I said do you want it? I didn't know he was gonna sleep in. So I kind of said, Do you want me to take it off? And he said no mine. And that was it. He loved it. He's just he wouldn't give it up after that. So that was really good. And we had a little trouble with the very first inset we ever did. We had a capillary, there's a lot of blood member and then we weren't sure it was going to work. And we like geniuses, we decided we were going to go away to start the pump. So we went to my parents house where this was in the summer. So you I went to my parents house for a week, because when you start an insulin pump, and they probably still do this now you have to check every three hours around the clock for the first couple days to get the level, you know, close to right. I'll go with, I'll stay with my mom. My parents spent the summers in New York at that point. I'll spend the summers spend the week in New York. And then my mom can spot me with the kids. It'll be great. I'll sleep when I sleep. And you had a golf tournament with Bill in Vermont, in Vermont. And I said, Oh go I can do this. Go ahead. And you know, I'm fine. I'll be with my parents. So I remember thinking when we first had that bad inset, this isn't I'm never gonna get on a plane. This is not working. And I remember we changed it and he was, you know, we've checked in right before we got in the car to go to the airport. And luckily it was fine. So I was much calmer. We were crazy to do this Slade 54:20 as well. And I remember I was in Vermont and I don't know if I think I was supposed to pack up the diabetes supplies. Stacey Simms 54:29 I don't know. That guy was yes, you packed all the diabetes supplies and I for the record. Slade is fastidious, he is an excellent Packer. Usually what happens is I put out clothing and then you pack it. Yeah, I mean, he's really, I would trust him more than myself in terms of remembering things. So I'll give you that much credit. Yeah, well, you blew this one. Oh, I forgot to add Slade 54:51 the cartridges that you refill and then put back in the pump. And I'm in Vermont and you we're scrambling, we're on the phone, you're scrambling trying to figure out what to do. And Bill had a good friend whose son had type one. And he was on a pump. We had no idea if it was the same. But like, he calls them at like eight o'clock at night, we go to his house, he gives us a couple of cartridges. I mean, it was really, and we were ready to drive back to Manhattan, right? Or back to New York, to bring it to you. And you guys had figured out another way to Yeah, Stacey Simms 55:27 but it was really funny. Because again, before Facebook, yeah, I probably could have put out a message and said, Does anybody have this within 30 miles and somebody would have helped me out. So what happened was, we went to change the cartridge, and I'm all proud of myself, because I've got it all laid out, and I'm calm. And so we had a good start to the pump. We really, we didn't need a lot of adjusting for whatever reason the dosing worked out pretty easily pretty quickly. So when I went to change the cartridge, I was feeling maybe overconfident. So I had everything else spread out everything right. And I realized where the cartridges were the cartridges. So I called our endocrinology office, and I called our educator and the endocrinologist called back first and said, You need a luer lock needle, and what the heck and you can't get it at a pharmacy. So my dad is gone. I'm going to the hospital. And he goes to get the luer lock needle so he can say you can screw it on to the cartridge and I had insulin I had an insulin vial. So then Lynette our educator calls me back, she says, We're gonna MacGyver this thing. And she teaches me over the phone, how to, you know, open up the cartridge had to make sure that you have enough space in it and and then we just injected the insulin and it was a regular needle. So she was really helpful, and she was so happy to do it. She was fantastic. I also had called the Animus, and they couldn't do anything that night. But the next morning, they came to my mom's house in rural Westchester County, which if you're not familiar with Westchester County, there's like old she is less than I said rural Westchester County it is what is it? It's not like there are farms there. I mean, they're like Ralph, Lauren owns a farm. But what I mean is they're tiny roads, they're not well marked. I can't say that. It's Slade 57:11 like any other street it has. Your house has a number in his street name, I find it to be very confused. Like it was unmarked land and her whole western neighbor fought Stacey Simms 57:20 with machetes to get to my mother's. I was impressed that they came over the next morning, and they gave me different cartridges, different sam

Os little monsters estão em festa! Lady Gaga está comemorando os 10 dez anos do lançamento, o seu terceiro álbum de estúdio, sucessor do ‘Born This Way'. Apesar de ter recebido opiniões bem dividas da crítica e do público, o projeto possui muitos detalhes sobre a vida e a carreira da Gaga. Bora conhecer! No quadro Antes Single do Que Mal Acompanhado, ainda falamos sobre Sabrina Carpenter, Tate McRae e muito mais! Curtiu? Siga a gente nas redes sociais: Instagram: @antespopdoquenunca Tik Tok: @antespopdoquenunca Twitter: @antespoppodcast Apresentação: @brubs1701 e @tucoalmeida_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Producer Manolo Morales, a devoted Little Monster, gallivants around the Lower East Side via an immersive performance-art walking tour dedicated to an iconic pop star.

Skybound gives comics completionists a headache with even more Energon Universe reprints, Guido Guidi treats us with some unused Transformers comic and video game art from his archives, and your ears are in for a treat with EarthSpark and Rise of the Beasts soundtracks now available. All this and much, much more on this episode of TransMissions Alt Mode! Order our exclusive Skybound Transformers #1 comic with cover art by E.J. Su! Want some TransMissions swag? Check out our online shop, powered by TeePublic! Show Notes: If you enjoy TransMissions, please rate us and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify! These ratings greatly help podcasts become more discoverable to other people using those services and is an easy way to help out our show. Contact us: Continue reading The post Alt Mode 364 – Going Ga Ga For Guidi appeared first on TransMissions Podcast Network.

Skybound gives comics completionists a headache with even more Energon Universe reprints, Guido Guidi treats us with some unused Transformers comic and video game art from his archives, and your ears are in for a treat with EarthSpark and Rise of the Beasts soundtracks now available. All this and much, much more on this episode of TransMissions Alt Mode! Order our exclusive Skybound Transformers #1 comic with cover art by E.J. Su! Want some TransMissions swag? Check out our online shop, powered by TeePublic! Show Notes: If you enjoy TransMissions, please rate us and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify! These ratings greatly help podcasts become more discoverable to other people using those services and is an easy way to help out our show. Contact us: Continue reading The post Alt Mode 364 – Going Ga Ga For Guidi appeared first on TransMissions Podcast Network.

It's another round up of Bachelor Nation headlines, and thankfully we have a lot of GOOD news to share! Anyone who feared the worst about Rachel Lindsay and Bryan Abasolo will let out a sigh of relief when they hear what's coming in their future. Will we see a “Golden” Bachelor in Paradise?? Gerry speaks out! And, find out Ashley's reaction to one of her close friends starting a feud with Lady Gaga!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Father, Son, House of Gucci. Today we unpack the 2021 film, House of Gucci. Topics discussed: Lady Gaga's method acting performance as Patrizia Reggiani, Adam Driver's lowkey sex appeal, Jared Leto's insane performance as Wario (sorry, we mean Paolo Gucci), Ridley Scott's flop year, and more!   Listen to us on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/late-to-the-party-with-nikki-bri/id1593848890 Listen to us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Uk6XEk4IZIV34CiqvGQUa Listen to us on Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy83MjBjMzM1OC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw   Find us on Tik Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@thelatetothepartypod Find us on Twitter https://twitter.com/lttppod?s=11&t=N2TE0731pImO1eOG4T_wCQ Find us on Instagram https://instagram.com/thelatetothepartypod?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==   (0:00) – We really thought HoG would save cinema (8:52) – It didn't meet my expectations (19:17) – Gaga's acting career (40:33) – Jeremy Irons as Rodolfo Gucci (58:20) – Lady Gaga declining the role (1:03:50) – Final thoughts This is another Hurrdat Media Production. Hurrdat Media is a podcast network and digital media production company based in Omaha, NE. Find more podcasts on the Hurrdat Media Network by going to HurrdatMedia.com or Hurrdat Media YouTube channel! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

T. Kyle and Bradley discuss the end of the SAG-AFTRA strike (let's get back to work!), our Stefani, Lady Gaga, being allowed to promote her ‘Joker' movie now, her former NYU classmate Carly Waddell coming for her ‘Wicked' singing' in front of her salad, the ‘Mean Girls' movie musical being not so musical, Zara Larsson doing promo like the good old days, Fiona Ora, the (alleged) return of Girls Aloud, High Fashion Editorial! featuring Christina Aguilera as Cher, Voltaire and ‘Vogue,' the 2024 Met Gala theme, TikTok Talk featuring Ariana Madix in Britney stan mode, Countess LuAnn as Hibiscus on ‘The Masked Singer,' and new bops like T. Kyle's “I'm Coming Down Your Chimney,” a Kimberley Locke remix, the return of Dua Lipa with “Houdini,” and the 2024 Grammys nominations. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Lady Gaga's former classmate explains how Gaga ruined lunch every day of her college career!

PAWS UP! For episode 38, we're finally covering one of the biggest pop stars of the last 15 years or so, the inimitable Lady Gaga. Pop culture writer and Little Monster Eric dials in from LA to talk about his love for Gaga over the years and take me through her career to date. Plus our Britney correspondent Andrew is back to talk about The Woman In Me, and we have all the usual bits including another appearance from my Mam. Enjoy! 0:00 Intro 1:21 Hi to Eric 4:50 TGPL News 9:50 Lady Gaga Deep Dive 1:21:15 Recommendations Follow Eric: www.instagram.com/ericanders www.twitter.com/MrEAnders Follow the podcast: www.instagram.com/gaypeoplepod www.twitter.com/gaypeoplepod Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3P5etk5WwFs1sb4yF3LeTx?si=pxVGLKJuRTirCJLh3QJ_aQ Apple Music Playlist: https://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/songs-gay-people-like/pl.u-kv9l44VTZpEb0

Hello everyone, Billy Amendola here on Drum Channel with my guest, Donald Barrett.   Donald recently wrapped up a Las Vegas residency with superstar artist Lady GaGa on her “Piano & Jazz” show.    Over the years, Donald has toured and or performed with Toni Braxton, Seal, Tony Bennett, Sade, Pussycat Dolls, Dolly Parton, and Josh Kelly. From 2006 to 2009, Donald was the house band drummer for TV's “Last Call With Carson Daly.”   DC chats with Donald about his Vegas Jazz gig with GaGa featuring a thirty-piece-orchestra, learning brushes from Ed Thigpen, playing in church, playing cruise ships, moving to California, being a music director for Colbie Caillat, and more.     Let's welcome Donald to the Drum Channel Podcast. Enjoy!

Orcas have sunk another boat in the Strait of Gibraltar off Morocco, unnerving sailors. Lady Gaga former classmate says Gaga annoyed her.  The Lovely Bones is a fraud. A bunch of people went to a bored ape event in Hong Kong and it used UV lights that burned their eyes, leaving some temporarily and maybe in a few cases permanently blind. Timbaland thinks Britney should be muzzled. Keke Palmer baby daddy drama. Barbara Streisand memoir. Tyson Foods recalls US nuggets after metal pieces found.  SAG-AFTRA Approves Deal to End Historic Strike. People's Sexiest Man Alive. Gargoyles live action series for Disney+. Kim Petras on the gays are fucking at her concerts, "There's definitely gay sex happening, which is lit.” Cardi B and Patti LaBelle holiday special. Cher Christmas album. Brandi Christmas album. | GET EXCLUSIVE CONTENT, MERCH AND FIRST ACCESS TO VIDEO PODCASTS AT Patreon/RichyAndWes   ^^^   Connect with us everywhere: @RichyAndWes *** Product Codes:  Perfect Jean - Use code WES15 to get 15-percent off | Skin Slipper - Use Code RichyAndWes to get a dollar off and free shipping | boiPKG - Use code RICHWEST35 for 35 percent off  | PookiePots - Use code RICHYANDWES for 15 percent off.

Lara and Carey talk Philly's new answer to SUR, USA Today's new resident Taylor Swift reporter, Nathan Fielder gifting Joe Jonas mayonnaise, and a Bachelor Nation hater from Gaga's NYU theatre program's tea on Ms. Stefani in college. Then it's back to SLC we go, where Monica and Angie squash their beef, Lisa mounts her own with Monica, Whitney plans her daughter's 13th birthday and her jewelry line opening, and Heather reels from her ex-Mormon trauma. Plus, Lisa and Monica face off during a sound bath in a "last word" battle to end all.Listen to this episode ad-free AND get access to weekly bonus episodes + video episodes by joining the SUP PATREON.Be cheap as hell and get full-length videos of the pod for free by subscribing to the SUP YOUTUBE.Re-live the best moments of this iconic podcast by following the SUP TIKOK. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Special K continues his collection prank call series. Also lady GaGa was apparently annoying in college find out why. Website

  If you are even a little active on social media, especially Twitter, you would have witnessed the exponential increase in tweets related to options trading. Today, we are are going to talk about that - Indian's going gaga over options trading. Deepak & Shray, take a detailed look at this fascinating phenomenon and tell you all that you need to know - except telling you about an options strategy that always makes money no matter where the market goes. In this episode, we delve into the history of options, the factors driving their growth, and the potential risks and rewards. From the earlier days of Badla to the scaling of options trading post-2006, we witness a significant shift in the landscape. What was once a predominantly institutional activity has evolved into a market dominated by retail and proprietary investors. Several factors contribute to the surge in options trading, including simplified Securities Transaction Tax (STT) structures, technological advancements, flat-rate brokerages, and increased retail participation. The introduction of weekly options has especially transformed the game, turning it into a more accessible yet speculative arena. But, all this is not without risks of ruin. Deepak raises valid concerns about the potential downsides of increased options trading. He shares real stories and lessons, through real-life examples, about the impact of options trading on individuals. We realise that this is the time when the fine line between responsible investing and excessive risk-taking becomes apparent, emphasising the need for education and awareness. While options trading has its drawbacks, Deepak acknowledges its positive aspects, such as providing liquidity and offering potential returns for those well-versed in risk management. He emphasises the importance of using options wisely and understanding the odds. _________________ Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:26 History and growth of Options trading in India 07:55 What has contributed to this massive growth in Options trading? 27:17 Is there a problem with increasing Options volume? Will the government come in and do what it did to all those gaming firms? 35:16 How do people lose money in options? 48:33 Isn't SEBI systematically reducing leverage? 50:30 How to not get suckered while trading Options in India? 1:02:11 What are the good uses of Options? 1:14:15 Where do you think Options trading will go from here?

| KOGNITIVE KOALITION - Deeper Smalltalk, Kultur, Satire, Kommentare & Musik. | FOLGE 56: Gender-Gaga | THEMEN: #gender #diversitiy #transgender #gay #lesbian #lgbtq #queer #trans #pansexual #genderqueer #feminist | QUKSER: www.Instagram.com/Qukser, www.Qukser.de | TIMO: https://www.instagram.com/_roschek_/ , www.Timo-Maroszek.de

Episode 42: Radio Gaga - PulsareSeit der Entdeckung der „Pulsare“ 1967 wissen wir, dass es am Himmel immer wieder blitzt – allerdings ist das in den meisten Fällen nur für Radio-Augen zu bemerken. Was das kosmische „Radio Gaga“ verursacht, diskutieren unsere galaktischen Spaziergänger Paul und Susanne in der aktuellen Folge ihres Podcast. Es sind sehr exotische Objekte, Neutronensterne genannt, die für die kurzen Pulse verantwortlich sind. Ein Neutronenstern war einmal ein Stern mit der vielfachen Masse der Sonne. Dann wurde er zur Supernova – und zurück blieb ein Objekt, schwerer als unsere Sonne aber nur etwa 20 Kilometer groß. So ein Neutronenstern rotiert sehr schnell, viele Male pro Sekunde. Dabei sendet er wie ein Leuchtturm einen Kegel von Strahlung aus. Wenn die Erde in diesem Kegel liegt, sehen wir einen sehr regelmäßig wiederholten Lichtblitz – und der Neutronenstern erscheint als „Pulsar“. Die Schwerkraft in seiner Nähe ist extrem. Und das macht es sogar möglich, Einsteins Theorie der Schwerkraft zu überprüfen!

Michaela's rebellious lingerie and feminist approach to design have made her into a contemporary fashion provocateur. Challenging traditional beauty standards through her work, in this episode she talks about subverting the age-old art of corsetry, the influence of Katy Perry's ‘Teenage Dream' on her personal style, and why she'll always be Gaga's Little Monster.Michaela's work arose from her own desire to empower her body, working through feelings of body dysmorphia. As part of her intimate study of the body, she will often model and photograph her own pieces, creating self portraits. Previously a resident at Alexander McQueen's Sarabande Foundation, Michaela creates custom-made lingerie pieces that are designed to sculpt the body and enhance the society-perceived ‘imperfections', offering a new and more forgiving perspective on the female form.Listen to Michaela's Playlist on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/74Tvr4YH285VWTEDHL15gc?si=a01347c33f9d4076Listen to Michaela's Playlist on Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/fashion-radio-michaela-stark/pl.u-9N9L29NT16mmM0 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

231031PC Radio GagaMensch Mahler am 31.10.2023 100 Jahre Radio. Ich erinnere mich, wie ich mit meinem Kumpel Uli nachts auf der Fensterbank saß und Radio Luxemburg hörte. In den späten 60igern war das der einzige Sender, der anständige Musik gespielt hat. Dort habe ich mehr gelernt als in vielen Jahren Englisch-Unterricht. Ich sitze im Dunkeln und sehe das DisplayMein einziger Freund in Teenager-NächtenUnd alles, was ich Wissen mussHöre ich im Radio Du hast uns allen die Alten Stars geschenktDurch die Kriege der Worte, die uns vom Mars attakiertenDu brings uns zum Lachen und zum HeulenDu schaffst es, dass wir glauben fliegen zu können .... Radio. Radio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I do a podcast Erratum : Nine Inch Nails : Hurt Le cri de Wilhelm : Séance d'enregistrement Le cri dans Distant drums - The charge at Feather River - autres utilisations IGN : The bizarre story behind an iconic sound effect Covers : Krisss organisation secrète : Nothing else matters Perpetuum Jazzile : Smells like teen spirit Brass Against : Seven Nation Pusherman Lady Struna : The wall au dulcimer Danael Valbert : le chefe Sons zarbi : Daniela Mars : flûte basse Boso Hurricane : batterie de cuisine Discord music Water concerto Charles Berthoud : Ain't no sunshine Crazy Frog Barbie girl David McCallum : The edge House of mirrors A taste of honey Call me Dr Dre : The next episode Trucs en vrac : Stevie Wonder drums solo Breathe, Eleanor, breathe Shirley Serban : Menopause Rhapsody Lady Gaga en répétition avec Metallica Lady Gaga & Metallica : Moth into flame La +BCdM : Frank SInatra : I've got you under my skin par Virginia Bruce - Ray Noble & son orchestre - Joséphine Baker - Ella Fitzgerald - The four seasons - Gloria Gaynor - Neneh Cherry - Frank Sinatra & Bono - Tony Bennett & Lady Gaga - Ben l'Oncle Soul Fred Astaire : The way you look tonight La Playlist de la +BCdM : sur le Tube à Walter sur Spotify (merci John Cytron) sur Deezer (merci MaO de Paris) sur Amazon Music (merci Hellxions) et sur Apple Music (merci Yawourt) Vote pour la Plus Belle Chanson du Monde Le son mystère (40') : Criquets ralentis à 800% Avec : Dr Zaius Aude David LYC Fanny Merci à : Clegot Dr Zaius Niko François TJP ErlendurHusavik Pat Hogun Pop goes the WZA Yschwen K Rot Alefto Didtwit Stéphane Barberouss Xzimnut Podcasts & liens cités : Super Cover Battle Je déteste les podcasts Walter sur Mastodon Walter sur BlueSky Le générique de fin est signé Cousbou

Crossy bumped into Dustin the Turkey in Dundrum TC yesterday! Jim-Jim seems to bump into him everywhere and tells crossy each time! Yesterday Dustin did the exact same... they'd craic on air with Jim-Jim trying to figure out who he met!The lads had a chat about Vapes which lead to chocolate fags from the 90s that looked real!We'd another game of InstaGrand Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bowen is a little sickstress this week, so he's invited Matt to his new home to record an episode of Las Cultch and contract whatever he has. Stanley cups in hand, the two discuss, well, pop cultural topics! "Such as?" you ask? Well, Chappell Roan and Troye Sivan's latest albums, RHONY, the "sweeps" TV culture of yesteryear, and an oversaturation of the espresso martini. Also, Bowen MET LADY GAGA, Matt has a haunted weekend in Long Island at the Chambers of Hell, and BOWEN MET LADY GAGA. All this, handwriting vs. typing, earnestness vs. earnesty, a live pop songwriting session, and the naming of the Actress of the Millenium. More like OCTOBER flush and OUR flannel cure (the flannel being this episode). Bye! Bonus episodes are available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasculturistas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Taylor Swift and Brittany Mahomes show off a special handshake at the latest Kansas City Chiefs game. SNL has some major star power over the weekend with Lady Gaga, Pedro Pascal and Mick Jagger joining Bad Bunny. Madonna opens up about most recent health scare on stage. Hot on the heels of releasing her first Christmas Album, Cher talks about working with Stevie Wonder, Michael Buble, and Tyga. Plus, hear what she has to say about her romance with Alexander "A.E." Edwards. "90210" Alum Brian Austin Green and "DWTS" pro Sharna Burgess give an update on their relationship after recently getting engaged.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Carly's back this week with some chitting and chatting and questions ! you can email us at secretkeepersclub@gmail.com Support the show & visit https://www.betterhelp.com/SECRETKEEPERS to get 10% off your 1st month of therapy Control body odor anywhere with @lumedeodorant & get $5 off of your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code SECRET at https://www.LumePodcast.com! #lumepod #sponsored #ad Support the show & get 20% off your order at https://www.theinkeylist.com with promo code SECRET

We've got a grab bag for you today featuring tampon testing, Boynton Blends, Chicken Salad Chicks, and capturing the elusive joy of shopping while at the gas station. We were blown away by this Mother Jones article “​​Wait, Tampons Weren't Being Tested With Human Blood?”We're back on our Sandra Boynton beat! See Audrey Gelman's piece for The Strategist about Boynton Blends coffee, Anne Diven's Gaga x Sandra TikTok, and an eBay trove of vintage wallpaper.Friends, we had to do a deep-dive on Chicken Salad Chick (thank you to this How I Built This ep for much of the intel!). Jacob Gallagher's "The Hottest Shop in America Is Your Local Gas Station" for the WSJ is very quotable—and about the state of shopping, really. Have you eaten Chicken Salad Chick?! Tell us everything at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, @athingortwohq, or in our Geneva!Find more weeknight dinner recipes at Pillsbury.com. BOTMYAY.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Did you miss Taylor Swift's The Eras Tour or Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour? Fear not Swifties and fans of Queen Bey as they both have concert films due out soon. Concert films are nothing new. Since "Woodstock" in 1970 — and even some earlier films that The Beatles did as they slowed and stopped touring — films have captured important festivals and tours, and provided insight into bands as well as the fans during specific time periods. And even acclaimed directors have gotten into the act. Martin Scorsese has directed some of the most notable concert and musician biopics of all-time when not busy with gritty dramas. Crank up the volume as co-hosts Bruce Miller and Terry Lipshetz talk about their favorite concert films of all time, discuss the marketing genius that is Taylor Swift, and share additional stories and thoughts as well.  Where to watch "Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour" in theaters Oct. 13 "Renaissance: A Film By Beyoncé" in theaters Dec. 1 "Woodstock" (1970) "One Direction: This Is Us" (2013) "The Last Waltz" (1978) "No Direction Home: Bob Dylan" (2005) "George Harrison: Living in the Material World" (2011) "Rolling Thunder Revue: A Bob Dylan Story by Martin Scorsese" (2019) "Michael Jackson's This Is It" (2009) "Diana Ross" Live in Central Park" (1983) "The Song Remains the Same" (1976) "Led Zeppelin: Celebration Day" (2012) "A Hard Day's Night" (1964) "Help!" (1965) "Gimme Shelter" (1970) "Les Misérables 25th Anniversary Concert at the O2" (2010) "Springsteen on Broadway" (2018) "U2: Rattle and Hum" (1988) "Medusa: Dare to Be Truthful" (1991) "Hamilton" (2020) "1991: The Year Punk Broke" (1992) Contact us! We want to hear from you! Email questions to podcasts@lee.net and we'll answer your question on a future episode! About the show Streamed & Screened is a podcast about movies and TV hosted by Bruce Miller, a longtime entertainment reporter who is now the editor of the Sioux City Journal in Iowa and Terry Lipshetz, a senior producer for Lee Enterprises based in Madison, Wisconsin. Episode transcript Note: The following transcript was created by Headliner and may contain misspellings and other inaccuracies as it was generated automatically: Terry Lipshetz: Welcome, everyone, to another episode of Streamed and Screened an entertainment podcast about movies and TV from Lee Enterprises. I'm Terry Lipshetz, a senior producer at Lee and co host of the program with our band leader Bruce Miller, editor of the Sioux City Journal and a longtime entertainment reporter. So if you're John Lennon, does that. Bruce Miller: Make me Ringo? No Paul McCartney. Oh, I'mccartney you get to be the big one. Why not go for the good one, right? Terry Lipshetz: Exactly. Taylor Swift's concert film is coming out next week Terry Lipshetz: So music. Taylor this is the week. Bruce Miller: This is the week. Did you know this? If you were a Swiftie, you would know these kinds of things, and that is that Taylor Swift's movie is coming out in the next week, and it's based on her era's tour. What I like to look at this as those of us who couldn't afford or get tickets to her tour will be able to see it without having to really bust a hump. Terry Lipshetz: That's the best part to me about concert films is that it's a great way to get you to the show, if you can't get to the show, because sometimes some of these tour stops and, I mean, you're in Iowa, so for you, how often does I mean, you'll get shows. Sure, come to Iowa, but not something this big, right? Bruce Miller: Yeah. Terry Lipshetz: You got to travel. You got to go to Chicago or, Minneapolis. Bruce Miller: I had friends tell me they spent $12,000 to see Taylor Swift. Terry Lipshetz: Holy cow. Bruce Miller: $12,000. Someday this will sound like I'm, absurd thinking that that's a lot of money, but in this day, it's a lot of money. It factors in the price of the tickets, the cost of getting there, the hotel room you have to have. I mean, it's like, I don't know that there's anybody on this earth that I would spend $12,000 to see. Terry Lipshetz: I don't have that kind of spending cash. Bruce Miller: But knowing that it is coming out on film, on DVD, I'm sure eventually all those kinds of things, it's an opportunity for all of us to enjoy whatever it was that was put out there and then maybe be even a little more critical about what they saw. Because I think they were all caught up in the enthusiasm of the moment. So I don't know. Maybe it isn't that good. Maybe 44 songs is too many. Who knows? Terry Lipshetz: It sounds like, from what I've heard, it's a really good show. I've seen a lot of clips of it. If you like Taylor Swift, I think it's definitely a show you want to see. I keep hearing 44 songs, but it's not like she performs them in full. There are some snippets here and there, and she kind of goes through the eras. No word if there is ranch dressing involved. Did you hear about no, no. So she's dating or at least seeing Travis Kelsey from the Kansas. You can't escape. Bruce Miller: Right. Terry Lipshetz: So every little thing she does now gets dissected, and on social media. They were looking when she was at the Chiefs game in her luxury suite, somebody spotted a picture of her with a chicken finger on a plate with what appeared to be ketchup and then a white substance that was labeled as seemingly ranch. Seemingly ranch. So ranch dressing companies, are like, running with it. Taylor eats ranch dressing. Bruce Miller: Who knew that she had such clout? Right. Terry Lipshetz: Right. It's crazy. Bruce Miller: Anything she does when she was here, she did play here way back in the early, early days when she was considered a country artist, if you dare say that. And, the thing I found most amazing about her is that she didn't do her t shirt in one style. She did the look of it in like five different colors. So these fans would want all five of them. And I thought that is a brilliant marketing decision by somebody that you weren't just getting the tour shirt, you were getting all of them. Because, if I'm going to get one, I got to have them all. What color do I pick? How do I pick? What am I going to do? So marketing genius. I think she's far more skilled at selling herself than she is at anything else. And that is not a diss. That means that she is just a genius at it. She should be teaching this at Harvard. Terry Lipshetz: Well, you know, with me, I'm, a record collector because you've seen my music collection and stuff in the background. Taylor. It extends to releasing physical media. So with the, album, actually, all of her recent albums, she'll release it on vinyl on a standard black edition. Limited. Limited, but well, the black is always that's standard. You can get that anytime you want. But then there is a different colored version that you can buy at Target. And then you can buy four different versions with four different album covers on four different colors through her website. And she puts them up at these intervals, like for the next 48 hours, only you can buy this one. And then it goes away. And then people freak out because they're like, you're making me buy it multiple times and you're charging me shipping multiple times. Why can't you just put it all up? But people will do that. I've seen people on social media sharing out. She's only got it's not like she's got 35 albums. She's got a solid catalog of a dozen different albums or so. But each one has like five or six or ten variants. Like you could literally have a, ah, collection of 200 Taylor Swift records. And it's just like a dozen albums. Bruce Miller: At this point, which is kind of unreal. That is crazy. Terry Lipshetz: And people buy like Taylor's army. They will buy it. And it's like, as I said, I'm a record collector. I do have multiple copies of certain albums, but it's less about like, I need a black version and I need a green version and a red version. It's like I've got the original pressing, an early pressing of Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen. I have a Japanese copy. I have a UK copy. They're pressed in different places, so the sound might be a little bit different. Bruce Miller: Are they unplayed? Do you keep them so that nobody touches them? Terry Lipshetz: No, I play them. And that's a little bit of the difference with some of the Taylor Swift fans is they might play one copy, but then they've got 13 that sit on a shelf or they hang on a wall or something. Bruce Miller: That could end up being the Beanie Babies of our era. It's going to be, should I say eras? Terry Lipshetz: eras. yes, Beanie Babies of our so. But yeah, like shameless self promotion. Beyoncé's film drops after the end of her tour Terry Lipshetz: Bruce, if you do want to check me out on social media, my Instagram handle is at vinyl underscore Terry. And you can just see what music I'm listening to. Bruce Miller: I will look. That's great. Check it out. The Beehive is also or the Beehive, I should say, is going to have its film in. Know, she's once she sees what Taylor does, she's got to do one better. Terry Lipshetz: well, and her strategy is a little different. So with Taylor, she's a little bit on hiatus at the moment. She's taking a small break in her tour. Right. Well, she goes I think in another month she heads down to South America. She's going to do like, Argentina and all that. So her film is going to drop October 13, I believe. And then, with Queen Bey, her tour is over. So she's going to drop hers on, I believe it's December 1 and it's going to air in theaters on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays for about four weeks. So it's going to be like a limited run month of December. But her tour is done. So it's not like right. You either saw it and want to relive the moment or you missed it and here's your opportunity. Whereas with Taylor, this is just kind of just another opportunity to see her. And then you can fly off to South America or you can wait for her to circle back in North America next summer. Bruce Miller: We've got to spend $12,000 and follow her around. Terry Lipshetz: Yeah. Bruce Miller: And then go to all the, Chiefs games to make sure that we see that in case she happens to wave to the audience from the skybox. You know how it is. Well, I must tell you, I have followed these kinds of films for know going Back to Woodstock was probably the first good concert ish film because it did give you a sense of it and made me glad I never went there because I don't think I could have withstood Mud and all that kind of whatever crap was invited. I was in California one summer and I was invited. I think it was summer. It either was summer or January, but it was the, preview of, One Direction's film. One Direction had a film called this Is US. I think it is. This is us. Terry Lipshetz: Okay? Bruce Miller: And they were having this sneak in the Grove, which is a kind of upscale shopping center in Los Angeles, okay? And somehow the word got out that this was going on and all these little girls who were fans of One Direction gathered there. They were outside this theater like you couldn't believe. It was like the scene in Frankenstein where the villagers are going to storm the castle because they want in. And they had heard that One Direction was going to be there. That they were going to turn up for, this screening that they weren't invited to that they couldn't get into. And so I'm sitting in the theater, right? And we get the manager of the theater looking just really whipped and he says, whatever you do, do not leave your seat. If you leave your seat and you leave the theater, you will not get your seat back. Because if somehow they break in and they start sitting in the seats where there aren't people, we can't kick them out, huh? We have no way of doing it. So please do not leave your seat. And we heard people pounding at the door outside and this made news. You'll find if you want to go back and look it up, pounding at the door, insistent that Harry Styles was in there somewhere and we were keeping them from meeting him. It was unlike any situation I've ever been in that's, a preview of anything. Was the movie okay? I have no clue. I was worried that I was going to be beaten by a twelve year old at some point because I was in there sitting and watching this movie that meant so much to them. Terry Lipshetz: But they weren't well, they, didn't show up, right? Bruce Miller: They were out there, but the cops came and the cops kept them and got them out of the theater. So they were not in the theater at all. And then when we walked out, you could see that there was like you who was in there? Who was in there with you? Did you see Niall? Was he in there with were the kids were real questioning. I thought they could kill people. I think they really could kill people. Terry Lipshetz: They probably could if you're determined. If you're determined. Bruce Miller: And so then I said, oh, it was wonderful. You've got to see this film. It's just so yeah, yeah. Scorsese directed a documentary about Bob Dylan's 1975 concert tour Terry Lipshetz: Woodstock, though. That's probably the first concert film I had ever seen. It was actually one I'm trying to think when my dad let me see it because it's a know, there's some language in it, there's some drug use in it, there's definitely some nudity in it. And it may have even been the first movie I had seen with nudity. But it's really a fascinating look at what went on. I think my dad always had a real connection with it too, because he bought tickets with friends to Woodstock. Yeah, he didn't get to it. He got stuck on the New York State throughway and eventually had to turn around because they left a little too late on whatever day it was. And by that time it was crazy. People had stormed the grounds. It had become a free concert. And he was angry. So he did what any other person who bought a ticket tickets? No, he sent it back and got a refund. And he regrets it. he regretted it for the rest of his life because he wished he could have had that ticket stub of like, I actually bought a ticket and I couldn't get there. But yeah, it was all of his favorite bands were playing. It's an incredible thing. So I think he always wanted us to, my siblings to really feel that connection with him, with Woodstock. But it's a fascinating film too, because Woodstock, up until that movie, was just a financial disaster. And it took that movie to kind of help them break even, basically. Bruce Miller: Well, and it showed you how acts that they weren't counting on turned out to be the stars really made their fortunes for them. Whereas other ones that they were counting on, it's like, well, not so sure here. This is not necessarily the star. Terry Lipshetz: Yeah. And you know who, not a director of the film, but one of the film editors of it. Do you know what famous, director Scorsese was? One of his earliest, works was as a film editor on Woodstock. Bruce Miller: See what happens see what happens when you're available and you can get to that place. Terry Lipshetz: Right. Bruce Miller: Only but he wouldn't have gotten a t shirt because he probably weren't selling any. Terry Lipshetz: yeah, but Marty, and we know Martin Scorsese by Marty because we're. Bruce Miller: He'S one of our pals, right, right. Terry Lipshetz: But he's got a long history in doing movies, documentaries, know musicians. He directed The Last Waltz, which was the final concert of the Band. He did, ah, no Direction Home, which was the documentary about the early life of Bob Dylan. They captured him leaving Minnesota and then going to New York and kind of rising through the folk scene. And then it kind of ended, when he plugged in. He did a documentary on, George Harrison. did you ever see the one he did called, Rolling Thunder Review a Bob Dylan Story. Do you remember that one? Bruce Miller: No. Terry Lipshetz: So he directed this and it was the most bizarre thing. So it's based on Dylan's concert tour during I think it was 1975, it was a transitional stage in Dylan's career. But he went out with this huge group of people. It was like 20 people on stage. It was almost like a circus dylan painted his face. He had like white makeup on every night and wore a big hat. And it captures a lot of those performances. But the film that Scorsese did was almost part fiction because it plays into the myth that is Dylan. And it talks like, I think Sharon Stone was in it and she talks about how she was a groupie during but she wasn't, she wasn't on the tour with Dylan at all. But they added in, for whatever reason, different moments of fiction to what was actually supposed to be a documentary of his tour of the mid seventy s. So it's kind of a crazy oh, my crazy thing. Yeah. Bruce Miller: One that I am fascinated by is the Michael Jackson one. Supposed to be about his last concert tour. And they kind of created it into that tour. I mean, if you were there, you would see all of the numbers that they were planning to do, but you realize in the course of that somewhere, there was no way he was going to be able to produce this every night. He couldn't. He didn't have the energy, he didn't have the stamina. I mean, it was fascinating when they did each number, but you'd think somebody's got to go get some oxygen at some point because it's just way too much. And it's telling because it shows how talented he was, but also how old he was. And the idea that you can do that maybe past your prime is unreal. But if you haven't seen that one, please watch it because it's unbelievable. Terry Lipshetz: This is it, right? Yeah. And that came out in 2009. I remember watching that one and it was really fascinating because it took you inside of the prep for the tour. But it was also really sad too, because you were seeing his decline basically too at the time. Obviously, in retrospect, when you see it, you're like, well, okay, that makes sense. But at the time you probably didn't even realize that he was nearing the end of his life. Bruce Miller: Right? Well, I think it's one of those things where he thought, too, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to be able to do this. This isn't going to happen. Instead of doing it once and doing it for film it and then you never have to do it again, why know, right. Do you remember when HBO was real big about doing these live, specials? And there was a Diana Ross one live from Central Park, and it started to rain, and it was like the worst rain ever. And not as bad as the one they've had recently, but it was bad so that the people were like, well, she just kept on going. She was the bunny and wouldn't let it up and come on, everybody, sing with me. And it's like, wow, this is real. But I think they like that document of their time because it is a way to mark certain hallmarks of their career. And then also it's a way for fans to say, you know what, she or he really was that good. Terry Lipshetz: Yeah, I won't watch every concert documentary out there. But if it's a musician that I at least either like or respect, I like to check it out. Because it's always a good time capsule to kind of see what happens. Led Zeppelin's concert films bookend two eras Terry Lipshetz: An interesting one for me is, The Song Remains the Same, the documentary concert film, about the, Led Zeppelins tour from 1973, where they filmed it at Madison Square Garden. And here is that band at, really the height of their popularity, right? It's middle of their career. Things are crazy. And it captures the moment. And that came out in 76. And then years, years later, they did another concert film. And it's called Celebration Day. And that came out in 2012. Now, this is after John Bonham had died. And after John Bonham died, the band broke up. And they swore, we're never getting back together. And there were little things here and there, like Robert Plant and Jimmy Page did a side project together. But they never really went back out. I think they had that one off, like at Live Aid, where they came together and played. But they never again really did any sort of tour or anything. They swore we're never going to reunite. But then they ended up doing, a benefit concert at the Two Arena in London. And it was just a one off. And they said, we're going to do it. We're doing this benefit. It's for one of their early managers or promoters. So that's the only reason we're going to do it. And it's sold out in minutes. And the cool thing about it, though, is that they brought in Jason Bonham, who is John Bonham's son, to play on drums. And I always thought it was cool watching that concert. Know, you knew that this is know, you're not going to be able to see them again. They're never going to get back again. But they opened it up with the song Good, Times, Bad Times. And it was very much like a drum driven song. So we're going to open it up. We're going to let Jason Bonham kind of take center stage in honor of his dad kind of thing. And then they kind of tore through like 16 songs after that. So it was a really nice moment. And there's a band that kind of had two ends of the spectrum. Like one at the height of craziness in the we're like grandparents now. But this is us. We're going to get back to one more time. We're going to honor a friend of ours and do it one more time. And I thought that was pretty cool. Bruce Miller: Well, and we look at the Beatles really did concert films too. They just did them more like music videos, right, with all of their kind of help and you name it, Let It Be, all that kind of stuff. Had a moment. They never really sat it down and did, something that we're seeing a lot of, but so we still have that kind of record of their time on earth. The Rolling Stones, however, had, give me shelter. Terry Lipshetz: And do you? Bruce Miller: That was like, wow, yeah, those times. I don't know that I would have been eager to go to those concerts at the time. But in retrospect, as an older person with more hopefully smarts about what I'm doing, I can appreciate it much more than I would have at the time. I would have been worried about getting out. Are we getting out time? Ah, is the parking going to be bad? Do I have to worry about all that? You know what I mean? Now it's a lot of fun to watch it, and especially when they're still performing. I'm sure every move they make now when they're in concert is photographed somewhere, somehow. We didn't have social media back in the day, so everybody wasn't holding a phone up and, recording it. They were just appreciating what it was at the time. Terry Lipshetz: The Beatles, it's an interesting example because they had several movies that are still popular to this know, like A Hard Day's Night, and there were concert elements within the film, but it was more of a traditional film. But it captured Beetlemania, ah, at the height of Beetlemania. So if you weren't there in the experience, Beetlemania, even though it's kind of a light hearted film, you still got the essence of it. And then you got some of the goofiness with help and all that. But it's really a shame with them because they stopped touring in the mid 60s because they couldn't hear themselves. And if you ever get a chance, I have like a bootleg DVD of their Shay Stadium concert. And it's the craziest thing. It's like a 25 minutes concert. I mean, that's all their concerts were back there. They would do 20 songs in 25 minutes and then they were done. Bruce Miller: Wow. I've been to the theater, the Ed Sullivan Theater, where they did their big performance on television, the first one. And the place is small. It's really small. And I remember seeing people in the balcony, like they were jumping up and down and were so excited that they thought it was going to come down. And you realize, wow, we were really kind of duped back in the day thinking that it was just this huge Madison Square Garden kind of experience. And it was just a small you know, the cameras made it look like it was much bigger than it actually was. Terry Lipshetz: If you ever get a chance in New York City, you take the NBC Studios tour and they usually will take you to a couple different sets, including it's like they always do Saturday Night Live, and then they'll give you like, one or two. And I remember when I took the tour one time we went to the Saturday Night Live set, and you're just kind of blown away because you realize you actually can't see some of if you're in that studio audience. Because of the way they have to arrange the floor. They might be filming part of it off to the side where the audience can't actually see it. And you have to watch it on monitors. You just see where they come out for the monologue and you see where the band performs. But then some of the other configurations are all over the place. And then we also went out to, I think it was Conan O'Brien's when he was still it was before he the Tonight Show, and he had that late, night program. And I remember going there and we saw the Max Weinberg drum kit sitting out there and Conan's desk. But it's tiny. It's a tiny little. Bruce Miller: Sneaky. Yes. Bruce Miller: you mentioned Saturday night. I was lucky enough to have been there during the early years. I saw an episode that, I don't know if you remember any of these things, but there was a dance that Gilda Radner and Steve Martin did and they were, like, going all around the whole area and they came near me, and I was able to get on camera at some point with them. So if you ever have access to that, go back and look. But it was fascinating because you could not see all of the skits. There could be a skit right down below you, but, you can't lean in and look at that. And so you'd basically get to see a couple and that's about it. But, the flurry of activity that's going on between the skits is just amazing. And then the sound is really good for, the guest artist, whoever is singing that week or whatever. It's really good. a couple of times I've gotten to go to Saturday Night Live. It's like the most impossible ticket to get because, at best, you're going to get a rehearsal ticket at this point because they do a rehearsal before they do the final show, right? And, somehow they'll let people in there. But you really need to know somebody if you're going to go to the actual show itself. So put that on a bucket list. It's really worth it. Bruce Miller: You had mentioned back a little bit earlier about the two this huge venue in London, and, every year, it seems they're rerunning this on PBS. And that's the Les Miz anniversary special. And it's just unbelievable. I love the show. Les Miz arabla. As a musical, it's wonderful. But this they combined a whole bunch of old stars, people who had been in it before, made this kind of masterful thing. And then you saw these people walking up the aisles of this show and it was like, oh my God, I can't believe this. And those are those once in a lifetime experiences that somehow need to be captured on film. But The Two is a place where they all play at some point. Look at all the things they did when Prince Charles and, when Queen Elizabeth had her anniversary. You name it, they did something there. And it's a place I'd love to go to just to see what it's like in person. Terry Lipshetz: Yeah, that would be a fun one. And then you think about entertainment destinations now, too, with The Sphere in Las Vegas with U Two and U Two, because U Two is such a visual band that they're able to utilize the interior. I mean, that's just amazing. It's just a giant Led screen, basically. But they had a concert film as well. I don't know. Do you remember Ratle and Hum? Bruce Miller: Oh, yes, I think we got them. And get it free. If you had like, some Apple product, they gave it to you. Terry Lipshetz: I don't know, you might have, but no, I think that might be something else. But Ratle and the Hum came out in, I think it was 1988. And it was a combination, album. It was like a live album that came out after The Joshua Tree. And it also had a companion film that went with it. The companion film. Some people love it, some people hate it. I don't know if there's very many people that are kind of like in the middle on this one. It's really bizarre. So on one hand, you get a lot of performances from the Joshua Tree tour, which is really at that know, they had a few earlier albums that did were critically acclaimed, but they didn't necessarily explode commercially. But The Joshua Tree exploded commercially and they had huge hits. So they documented parts of this tour and they shot a lot of it in black and white. But then near the end, they went into color. But then they had these intermittent weird side journeys where they went to Graceland and they talked about their love for Elvis and they met with BB. King and they did this. And it was just kind of a strange document of the time. I would have been happier with. Just give me 25 songs of a straight YouTube concert. If you got to take a few performances from a few different shows, so be it. But, I don't know. I could probably have done without the side commentary. Yeah, exactly. Because I love you two and I've seen them in concert and I have all their albums. But Bono has a certain way about them, I guess is a way of saying it. And it's just like they're a little bit too over the top sometimes, even for me. I think Rattle and Hum really, it sums up that time, at least, even though. Bruce Miller: All those little pop stars. Anna Montana, right? bieber had one. I think it was 3D. Katy Perry, you name them, they all get these movies at some point. And it's somebody saying, you know, here's how we can make the budget on that tour. That didn't go so well. We'll put out a movie, and then we'll make up the difference that we lost in, know, having that big set piece that you had. There was a great mockumentary about Madonna's tour. Remember how Madonna had the cone bra and all that? And Julie Brown. Not the Julie Brown that you remember from MTB, but a different Julie Brown who was a comedian, did her spoof of was. So I think she called herself Medusa or something. Terry Lipshetz: Okay. Yeah. Bruce Miller: But if you ever get to see that, it is such a hoot. It makes fun of these in the best way. The best way. And Madonna had to have loved it. And she's another one who should look at those things and say, I'm glad I have this document. I really am. Because I don't know that her tours now are as iconic as they should be. Gaga she has done things. She's done films or specials, but I don't know that she's done one of these kind of big movie things that would have told all or showed all or whatever. And maybe she's ripe for one. Terry Lipshetz: Maybe. You know which one I really like, too. And this was an opportunity because I couldn't get to New York, and I'm a huge Springsteen fan. And then this is like my other Broadway. Yeah. In my other shameless self promotion, I have another Instagram account called at Bruce Springsteen Collection, where I document all of the Springsteen albums in my collection. And I'm not just talking about the regular stuff. I've got some things that were not officially released that I show off on this thing. Bruce Miller: But does Bruce know? Terry Lipshetz: He knows this stuff is out there. Bruce Miller: Okay. Terry Lipshetz: but, yeah, no, I'm a huge hardcore. I've seen him in concert 1314 times at this point. Bruce Miller: Why didn't you go to the Broadway show? Come on. Terry Lipshetz: Yeah, I mean, I really wanted to, but the cost for tickets, I got to travel from the Midwest to the city. Yeah, it's an expensive show. So, when Netflix made the deal to air, know, one of the performances of Spring Scene on Broadway, it was a really good opportunity. And I would have loved to have gone to the Walter Kerr Theater to see it live. But I think in this type of setting, the way they filmed it, you felt like you were right there. Terry Lipshetz: It was a very well done documentary, know, whatever you want to call it. it captured the know, it was kind of like, with Hamilton, because if you couldn't see the original cast, you at least got to see it on Apple TV. And I think that was a good second opportunity. And I think that's what this is. Bruce Miller: I told you my story about Hamilton, right? That I was determined to see Hamilton no matter what. Terry Lipshetz: No, I don't think I heard this one. Bruce Miller: Oh, do you mind if I go ahead. Story. The thing about me is I have to see the original cast. I have to see the original actor in a Broadway show or I don't feel like if it's a big thing sure. And I knew that Hamilton was going to be a big thing even before Hamilton was a spark on anybody's radar. And then it got out there and I thought, I've got to go, but when am I going and how do I get tickets? And it was like this whole thing where I couldn't get the tickets. The tickets were just outrageous. And I decided I was going to go on StubHub. And so StubHub I went on, and it was like, 1000 something for the tickets, and am I going to spend $1,000? And then I start rationalizing all these things. Well, life is short. You're not going to be around that much longer. You want to see it, you should go. The original cast was breaking up after that. I was rationalizing. Terry Lipshetz: Right. You played it out, like, 15 steps and you're like, I'm on board. Bruce Miller: And it got down to the point where it was $777. Terry Lipshetz: Oh, you got to do it. Bruce Miller: And I did it. I jumped. And then I was at a hotel and we had to add, you know, how this thing is where you print out the tickets, but you're not really sure about all this, and you think, oh, they're going to take money to the cleaners and I'm going to lose $700, and it's going to be just the worst, right? Terry Lipshetz: Yes. Bruce Miller: And so I went to the business office at the hotel and they said, yeah, these are pretty good. You should be all right. You shouldn't have a problem. But if I were you, I'd get to the theater early, because if somebody sold this ticket twice, which could happen, you won't be the one who gets in. It'll go the one who got in before you. I made a beeline to that theater as fast as I could. And when I heard that M of the ticket, it was like, yes. So I get to my seat, and the seat was really good. And I'm talking to the people next to me. And there was a family from Los Angeles who came because the daughter had been listening to the album all along and wanted to see this. Right. This was her goal. And they gave up going to any other shows. They weren't going to any kind of theme parks. They weren't doing anything but Hamilton. And they spent $10,000. And they were sitting next to me. And we talked to people, like, in the row before us. They spent nothing. Somebody handed them tickets at the theater. So there were all these kind of stories that were going around among the people, and you felt lucky. You felt like, I have won the lottery. I am here. And then you hear and you think, this is, like, the most unbelievable experience I've ever been in my life. It was everything. And then a little bit more. And I'll tell you an, intermission. I ran to the merchandise table and bought $200 worth of crap just because I wanted to prove that I had been to Hamilton, right? So it was my thing. And I realized, you know what? It was money well spent. It was really money well spent. Now, when I saw the Apple version of or I mean, the Disney version, disney plus version of, Hamilton, it was perfect. It lived up to all of the things that I remember, because after that cast, the original cast left. I did go see it again, and it did not live up to the hype. But having seen the original cast and then seeing the original cast do the filmed version of Was, if you want to know how good it was, watch that. It was very good. And I think they did a great job of capturing that whole moment. But, yeah, that's cool. My Hamilton story. So for the next year after that, I got more Hamilton crap from people because they said, well, you're the one that really likes Hamilton, don't you? Here's a hamilton. Whatever. But I had talked to Lin Manuel Miranda before he was even writing it. He was on a TV series as, like, a third stringer. And I said, well, what are you working on? Because he had done some other stuff for the theater. And that if you know anything about me, I'm just a hardcore theater person. I live for that. And he said, well, I'm working on a little thing I call the Hamilton mixtape. It's a show about Alexander Hamilton, but it's done with rapid hip hop and that kind of stuff. He says, we'll see where it goes. And I'll look where it went. Terry Lipshetz: We'll see where it goes. It may pan out. Who knows? Bruce Miller: It's a fascinating story. And then to even take it further, while he was doing Hamilton, he was writing the songs for Moana. He would do zoom calls with the directors of Moana, who one of them happens to be from Sioux City. And he would tell me about how yeah, he'd come after before they start the show or during an intermission or whatever, and they would like, work well, this song needs to be this, and this song needs to be that. Okay, I'll work on it, and I'll get you another one. And then he'd go out and do the show. Terry Lipshetz: That's crazy. Bruce Miller: Yeah, it's weird, but there's your $0.02 worth on those kind of direct to the screen versions. Bruce Miller: But you know what? I think these are ways for all of us to enjoy entertainment that we maybe don't have the access to. Terry Lipshetz: Absolutely. Bruce Miller: It's an affordable way and you still get all the bells and whistles. And even if you had a bad seat at the show itself, if you did go, here's a way to see things that maybe you didn't see. Terry Lipshetz: Yeah, and it's a cool way too, because it captures the moment of the time. So if you're like me, who I'm in my later forty s and I was born after Woodstock. I can see what m people of my parents age looked like and acted like ah, as youngsters and realized that some of the things that they yelled at me for, they were doing them also back in. Bruce Miller: As someone who was around, I will tell you they were just as bad, if not worse than we see kids today. Terry Lipshetz: Yeah, exactly. And then I look back at something like 1991, the film The Year Punk Broke, which looks at bands like Sonic Youth and Nirvana when they exploded in the early ninety s. And I watched those and I'm like, oh, did I really dress that way in high school? Yeah. Oh man. Bruce Miller: No, it's fascinating. I was talking to a college student today, and she was doing a project for one of her design classes. And she says, I am going back to the I'm trying to kind of conjure all those things that were big in the some of these things that you're coming up with weren't in the little careful, because I don't remember this stuff. And I remember the 70s like nobody. Terry Lipshetz: You do. Yeah, you absolutely remember them. So again, we've got October 13, Taylor Swift's, the Era's tour film, coming out. Beyonce has her film coming out in December. And check out some of these films that we talked about opportunities like Woodstock, Ratle and lot of like Scorsese has done a lot of if you're into like like you know, he's got a lot of things besides, the gangster films. He loves music and it plays into all of his films and he's done quite a few, so a lot of good things. And he's got a new movie coming up and then we have another episode coming out next week. You have an interview with that, right? Bruce Miller: With Goosebumps? Yeah. Get ready. We're getting closer to Halloween and they've rebooted Goosebumps. They had a series where they would do a different book for each episode. Now they've created a kind of a mashup where they put the characters together and they're telling stories from four or five different books in the course of a season. And you'll get a chance to hear the producers talk about why they did what they did with this. And it's a little more adult than you may remember the Goosebumps book being. So look for that. That's next week when we come back on Streamed and Screened. Terry Lipshetz: Sounds good. So we'll talk about Goosebumps and we'll talk about maybe some other family friendly ish kind of Halloween things that we can dive into if you must. Bruce Miller: If you're not we're talking about saw. Terry Lipshetz: I will tap out. If we're talking horror movies, I am tapping out before we get started. We won't do saw. None of that stuff. I like to get a solid night's sleep, Bruce. I don't need horror things flashing through my head. That stuff's scary. I don't like scary things. Bruce Miller: Yeah, we'll play the Springsteen white noise machine, and you'll be able to go to sleep. Terry Lipshetz: Sounds good. All right. We'll be back again next week with another episode of Streamed and Screened.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Tara and Kris start by celebrating the conclusion of the WGA strike and sending support for SAG-AFTRA in their continued quest for an equitable deal. Looking ahead, they wonder about the future of AI. Tara doesn't think it's as bleak as it sounds. Kris disagrees. Luckily we have opinions on survival reality shows to bring us together.  After getting deep into Alone Australia and Survivor, we hear more about RuPaul's Drag Race UK from Tara and then dive headlong into recommendations! Official Recommendations From Kris: Gaga: Five Foot Two (Netflix) This week, Kris recommends the 2017 Netflix documentary, Gaga: Five Foot Two, which covers a year in the life of Lady Gaga as she works on her fifth studio release album, Joanne. It's a deeply vulnerable piece according to Kris, examining long standing pain conditions that the artist suffers from. It also details the 51st Super Bowl half-time show where Gaga gave her critically acclaimed appearance. From Tara: Bingo Love by Tee Franklin (Author), Jenn St-Onge (Artist) After comic creator Lawrence Lindell talked about it in our bonus episode with him, Tara picked up one of the books he suggested: Bingo Love. Spoiler: she fell in love with it. Bingo Love is a second-chance romance between two Black women that starts in the 1960s when they meet and become instant best friends at their church's Sunday bingo. Separated once their relationship turns romantic and is discovered, they go on to marry men, have families, and then meet once more sixties at another Sunday bingo when they're in their 60's. It's a beautiful story about love, second chances, and honestly how many stories like this include Black women? We love to see it. Check it out. Works/People Discussed If Books Could Kill (Podcast) "On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots: Can Language Models Be Too Big?" By Emily M Bender, Timnit Gebru, Angelina McMillan-Major and Shmargaret Shmitchell Alone Australia (SBS) Survivor (CBS) https://www.tiktok.com/@208sportscards RuPaul's Drag Race UK (BBC) The Big Nailed It Baking Challenge (Netflix) Mimosa by Archie Bongiovanni Black Mirror, Series Three, Episode Four “San Junipero” (Channel Four/Netflix) Support & follow the show Buy us a Ko-fi Sign up for our newsletter Twitter: @queerlyrec Facebook: @QueerlyRecommended Instagram: @queerlyrecommended Tumblr: @queerlyrecommended TikTok: @queerlyrecommended Get all our links on Linktr.ee Support local animal shelters by joining Kris's Patreon

In this episode, Bryan and Kristen talk about fun elementary school games, discuss the difference between hoping for a team to make a mistake and rooting for the other team to do their best, and explain how the easy way is often the difficult way. Life Level 1 is a general topic podcast about life from the humorous perspective of Bryan and his broad, Kristen. Bryan has a background in video game development and Kristen has a background in life. The thoughts and opinions expressed on this podcast are those of the individual contributors alone and are not a reflection of their employers.