Thoroughly Considered

Thu, 08 May 2025 20:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/124 http://relay.fm/tc/124 Tariff Talk 124 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke is back! We have a fun and breezy chat about how tariffs are affecting our businesses, why the Material Dock was discontinued, and then follow up on some past predictions. Myke is back! We have a fun and breezy chat about how tariffs are affecting our businesses, why the Material Dock was discontinued, and then follow up on some past predictions. clean 4263 Myke is back! We have a fun and breezy chat about how tariffs are affecting our businesses, why the Material Dock was discontinued, and then follow up on some past predictions. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership The Puzzle of the All-American BBQ Scrubber – Search Engine Peak Design Kickstarter The Kickstarter you backed may soon ask for more money to cover Trump's tariffs | The Verge New Kickstarter Tool Helps Creators Offset U.S. Tariffs Mirrorless camera shipments worldwide 2023 | Statista Sidekick Poc

Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/123 http://relay.fm/tc/123 The Last Detail with John Siracusa 123 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Today's guest is John Siracusa, the proprietor of Hypercritical.co and co-host of The Accidental Tech Podcast and Reconcilable Differences. His object is the 2019 Mac Pro. Today's guest is John Siracusa, the proprietor of Hypercritical.co and co-host of The Accidental Tech Podcast and Reconcilable Differences. His object is the 2019 Mac Pro. clean 4851 Today's guest is John Siracusa, the proprietor of Hypercritical.co and co-host of The Accidental Tech Podcast and Reconcilable Differences. His object is the 2019 Mac Pro. Guest Starring: John Siracusa Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Mac Pro - Apple Mac Pro (2019) - Technical Specifications - Apple Support WWDC 2019 Keynote — Apple - YouTube The 2020 Mac Pro: A Silent Killer! - MKBHD - YouTube Hypercritical Accidental Tech Podcast Reconcilable Differences - Relay

Mon, 24 Mar 2025 14:45:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/122 http://relay.fm/tc/122 The Last Detail with Chase Reeves 122 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Today's guest is Chase Reeves, know for his extensive gear reviews on YouTube. His object is the Rhizal Brio slip-on barefoot shoe. Today's guest is Chase Reeves, know for his extensive gear reviews on YouTube. His object is the Rhizal Brio slip-on barefoot shoe. clean 3955 Today's guest is Chase Reeves, know for his extensive gear reviews on YouTube. His object is the Rhizal Brio slip-on barefoot shoe. Guest Starring: Chase Reeves Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership RHIZAL Brio Slip-On / Clay / Mens - Grounded Barefoot Natural Leather Chase Reeves Chase Reeves - YouTube

Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:00:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/121 http://relay.fm/tc/121 The Last Detail with Austin Mann 121 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Today's guest is Austin Mann, a world renowned landscape and wildlife photographer. His object is the Really Right Stuff BH-40 ball head. Today's guest is Austin Mann, a world renowned landscape and wildlife photographer. His object is the Really Right Stuff BH-40 ball head. clean 3043 Today's guest is Austin Mann, a world renowned landscape and wildlife photographer. His object is the Really Right Stuff BH-40 ball head. Guest Starring: Austin Mann Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Travel Photographer - Austin Mann BH-40 Ball Head Really Right Stuff - Camera Yo-Yo Ma Photo – Instagram

Sat, 18 Jan 2025 00:15:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/120 http://relay.fm/tc/120 Imbue All of the Choices 120 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Dan's new guitar build, how Keen progress is going, and their business themes for the year. Then a Dan's Tech Corner about All-in-One computers. Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Dan's new guitar build, how Keen progress is going, and their business themes for the year. Then a Dan's Tech Corner about All-in-One computers. clean 3109 Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Dan's new guitar build, how Keen progress is going, and their business themes for the year. Then a Dan's Tech Corner about All-in-One computers. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Thoroughly Considered #110: Mid-life Crisis Hobby - Relay Offset P-90 Build — Dan Provost Tech Talk - Relicing Guitars – Northwest Guitars Leo Fender - Wikipedia Keen – Studio Neat The The

Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/119 http://relay.fm/tc/119 Anti Alton Brown Corollary 119 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke chats with Tom & Dan about how their Black Friday promotions went, using VR as a design tool, and then some product recommendations for Myke's upcoming baby. (!) Myke chats with Tom & Dan about how their Black Friday promotions went, using VR as a design tool, and then some product recommendations for Myke's upcoming baby. (!) clean 3524 Myke chats with Tom & Dan about how their Black Friday promotions went, using VR as a design tool, and then some product recommendations for Myke's upcoming baby. (!) Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership The best tech and streaming gifts for 2024 - The Verge Gravity Sketch Apple, Sony Talk PlayStation VR Hand Controller Support for Vision Pro - Bloomberg

Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/118 http://relay.fm/tc/118 Sales and Discounts 118 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan give a Keen production update, before diving into a discussion about sales and discounts during the upcoming holidays. They close the show with a Dan's Tech Corner. Myke, Tom, and Dan give a Keen production update, before diving into a discussion about sales and discounts during the upcoming holidays. They close the show with a Dan's Tech Corner. clean 4796 Myke, Tom, and Dan give a Keen production update, before diving into a discussion about sales and discounts during the upcoming holidays. They close the show with a Dan's Tech Corner. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Black Friday (shopping) - Wikipedia Cyber Monday - Wikipedia Early Bird Sale – Studio Neat Testing the Vision Pro With New Ultrawide Display Option in visionOS 2.2 - MacRumors

Fri, 18 Oct 2024 12:15:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/117 http://relay.fm/tc/117 Patch Club 117 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan discuss the newly launched Studio Neat Patch Club, Keen assembly and shipping progress, and close the show with a Dan's Tech Corner. Myke, Tom, and Dan discuss the newly launched Studio Neat Patch Club, Keen assembly and shipping progress, and close the show with a Dan's Tech Corner. clean 4090 Myke, Tom, and Dan discuss the newly launched Studio Neat Patch Club, Keen assembly and shipping progress, and close the show with a Dan's Tech Corner. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Studio Neat Patch Club Jony Ive's LoveFrom reinvents the button with Moncler - Fast Company Inside Jony Ive's Life After Apple and His LoveFrom Design Business - The New York Times LoveFrom, And now… shipping! – K

Thu, 12 Sep 2024 12:45:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/116 http://relay.fm/tc/116 The Last Detail with Jason Shellen 116 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Today's guest is Jason Shellen, an entrepreneur and the founding product manager of Google Reader. His object is the Patagonia Refugio 28L backpack. Today's guest is Jason Shellen, an entrepreneur and the founding product manager of Google Reader. His object is the Patagonia Refugio 28L backpack. clean 3612 Today's guest is Jason Shellen, an entrepreneur and the founding product manager of Google Reader. His object is the Patagonia Refugio 28L backpack. Guest Starring: Jason Shellen Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Patagonia Refugio 28 Daypack | REI Co-op Patagonia Refugio 28L Pack | REI Co-op Patagonia Refugio Daypack Video - YouTube Patagonia Refugio Pack 28L - YouTube THE BROWN BUFFALO® – The Brown Buffalo Timbuk2 Bags: Backpacks, Messenger Bags, Custom Bags

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/115 http://relay.fm/tc/115 New Website 115 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom and Dan chat about Studio Neat's new website, and how Keen production is coming along. Myke, Tom and Dan chat about Studio Neat's new website, and how Keen production is coming along. clean 3110 Myke, Tom and Dan chat about Studio Neat's new website, and how Keen production is coming along. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Studio Neat Website teenage engineering store - teenage engineering Keyshot blender Fusion Screw

Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/114 http://relay.fm/tc/114 Nothing but Corners 114 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan spend an episode clearing out the Dan's Tech Corner backlog. Myke, Tom, and Dan spend an episode clearing out the Dan's Tech Corner backlog. clean 4282 Myke, Tom, and Dan spend an episode clearing out the Dan's Tech Corner backlog. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Crush! | iPad Pro | Apple - YouTube Apple apologizes for iPad ‘Crush' ad that ‘missed the mark' - The Verge MacPad: How I Created the Hybrid Mac-iPad Laptop and Tablet That Apple Won't Make - MacStories Apple Watch Series 7 reportedly has flat sides an

Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:00:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/113 http://relay.fm/tc/113 I Wasn't Expecting Therapy Today 113 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Tom and Dan give Myke some updates on Keen production, and reveal how the color selection breakdown is going. Then, a long discussion about hiring some design and engineering help at Studio Neat. Tom and Dan give Myke some updates on Keen production, and reveal how the color selection breakdown is going. Then, a long discussion about hiring some design and engineering help at Studio Neat. clean 3019 Tom and Dan give Myke some updates on Keen production, and reveal how the color selection breakdown is going. Then, a long discussion about hiring some design and engineering help at Studio Neat. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership

Fri, 24 May 2024 10:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/112 http://relay.fm/tc/112 The Last Detail with Matthew Panzarino 112 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Today's guest is Matthew Panzarino, the former editor of TechCrunch, and current proprietor of TheObessor.com. His object is the Acronym J1-A. Today's guest is Matthew Panzarino, the former editor of TechCrunch, and current proprietor of TheObessor.com. His object is the Acronym J1-A. clean 3044 Today's guest is Matthew Panzarino, the former editor of TechCrunch, and current proprietor of TheObessor.com. His object is the Acronym J1-A. Guest Starring: Matthew Panzarino Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership J1A-GTKR-BKS | ACRONYM® Acronym J1A History | Grailed Errolson Hugh: The Final Boss of Fashion — sabukaru An Introduction to Techwear | Grailed Dieter Rams - Wikipedia The Obsessor

Wed, 01 May 2024 17:45:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/111 http://relay.fm/tc/111 With Great Power 111 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom and Dan give a brief Keen production update, and then chat extensively about the ethics of product reviews. Myke, Tom and Dan give a brief Keen production update, and then chat extensively about the ethics of product reviews. clean 2918 Myke, Tom and Dan give a brief Keen production update, and then chat extensively about the ethics of product reviews. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Keen – Kickstarter The Worst Product I've Ever Reviewed... For Now - MKBHD - YouTube Do Bad Reviews Kill Companies? - MKBHD - YouTube Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable - MKBHD - YouTube What Are These Companies Hiding? - Rabbit R1 / Humane AI Pin - Dave 2D - YouTube MKBHDs For Everything – Stratechery by Ben Thompson This is the Humane Ai Pin - Humane - YouTube What is Ai Pin? - Humane - YouTube Wavelength - A mind-reading party game Hanabi (card game) - Wikipedia Hanabi | B

Thu, 21 Mar 2024 11:45:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/110 http://relay.fm/tc/110 Mid-life Crisis Hobby 110 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Mark Two, Mark Two (nobody calls it that) and then discuss Dan's new hobby. Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Mark Two, Mark Two (nobody calls it that) and then discuss Dan's new hobby. clean 2358 Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Mark Two, Mark Two (nobody calls it that) and then discuss Dan's new hobby. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Mark Two – Studio Neat Details on the Mark Two Changes Mark Three – Studio Neat

Fri, 08 Mar 2024 16:15:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/109 http://relay.fm/tc/109 The Last Detail with CW&T 109 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Today's guests are Che-Wei Wang and Taylor Levy, the duo behind CW&T, makers of beautifully designed and artful objects. Their objects are the Manfrotto Super Clamp, and the Casio F-91W wristwatch. Today's guests are Che-Wei Wang and Taylor Levy, the duo behind CW&T, makers of beautifully designed and artful objects. Their objects are the Manfrotto Super Clamp, and the Casio F-91W wristwatch. clean 4798 Today's guests are Che-Wei Wang and Taylor Levy, the duo behind CW&T, makers of beautifully designed and artful objects. Their objects are the Manfrotto Super Clamp, and the Casio F-91W wristwatch. Guest Starring: Che-Wei Wang and Taylor Levy Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Super Clamp w/ Stud - 035RL | Manfrotto US Casio F-91W - Wikipedia Solid State Watch – CW&T The Ones by CW&T How To Install Clean Black Faceplate on Casio F91W - YouTube

Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:15:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/108 http://relay.fm/tc/108 Archibook 108 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the struggle to come up with a name for “Keepbook,” moving warehouses, and Apple Vision Pro. Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the struggle to come up with a name for “Keepbook,” moving warehouses, and Apple Vision Pro. clean 3884 Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the struggle to come up with a name for “Keepbook,” moving warehouses, and Apple Vision Pro. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Keepbook – Studio Neat Nice Commerce Apple Vision Pro

Fri, 12 Jan 2024 16:15:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/107 http://relay.fm/tc/107 Keepbook 107 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about how the holidays went for their respective businesses, email marketing, their plans for 2024, and Studio Neat's newest notebook, Keepbook. Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about how the holidays went for their respective businesses, email marketing, their plans for 2024, and Studio Neat's newest notebook, Keepbook. clean 3199 Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about how the holidays went for their respective businesses, email marketing, their plans for 2024, and Studio Neat's newest notebook, Keepbook. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Keepboo

Fri, 17 Nov 2023 19:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/106 http://relay.fm/tc/106 The Biannual Gift Giving Guide 106 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Myke, Tom, and Dan each share three items they think would make excellent gifts. Myke, Tom, and Dan each share three items they think would make excellent gifts. clean 4380 Myke, Tom, and Dan each share three items they think would make excellent gifts. Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Thoroughly Considered #89: Stretchy and Smudgy - Relay FM Thoroughly Considered #74: Biannual Holiday Gift Giving Guide(lines) - Relay FM Thoroughly Considered #56: Are We About To Do a Gift Guide Episode? - Relay FM YETI Rambler 10 oz Tumbler With MagSlider Lid Sonnet Mechanical Keyboard – Mode Designs Wera 05022640001 950/9 Hex-Plus Multicolour Wera - Kraftform Insulated Water Bottle 20 oz, Stainless Steel Bottle | Klean Kanteen Sport Cap, Drinking Sports Cap, Sports Bottle Cap | Klean Kanteen Insulated Coffee Tumbler - TKWide 16 oz | Klean Kanteen 'Artist Stripe' Towelling Dressing Gown Window Bird Feeder Hasami Porcelain Mug (Natural) – Ugmonk MX Master 3S Wireless Mouse | Logitech BrickLink BroTex Plants Tree Accessories Steel Mark One – Studio Neat Sidekick Notepad Alexander Medeot (@alexotos) • Instagram

Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:00:00 GMT http://relay.fm/tc/105 http://relay.fm/tc/105 The Last Detail with Jeff Sheldon 105 Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley Today's guest is Jeff Sheldon, the founder of Ugmonk, creator of desk products like Analog and Gather. His object is the Fujifilm X100V. Today's guest is Jeff Sheldon, the founder of Ugmonk, creator of desk products like Analog and Gather. His object is the Fujifilm X100V. clean 3037 Today's guest is Jeff Sheldon, the founder of Ugmonk, creator of desk products like Analog and Gather. His object is the Fujifilm X100V. Guest Starring: Jeff Sheldon Links and Show Notes: On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Ugmonk FUJIFILM X100V GF1 Field Test — 16 Days in the Himalayas — by Craig Mod The Leica Q — by Craig Mod Dieter Rams' Design Principles - Wikipedia Jeff Sheldon (@ugmonk) – Instagram

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the new Limited Edition release, the final days of the Keen campaign, and then have a lengthy discussion about Jony Ive's reported collaboration with OpenAI.

Myke asks Tom and Dan about how the Keen campaign is going so far, and about the feedback they have received. They also discuss how they came up with the name “Keen.” Then the three lads chat about the St. Jude fundraiser, and give details on the Thoroughly Considered raffle for a special Mark One pen.

Myke chats with Tom and Dan about their new Kickstarter project: Keen, a high quality retractable utility knife. They discuss the design decisions, the pricing, how the campaign is going… all manner of things. The show closes with a bit of follow up about Dan's saga with a 32” 6k Dell monitor.

On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Stephen Hackett, and founder of 512pixels.net and cofounder of Relay FM, the home of this very podcast. His object is the iMac G4.

It's episode 100! For this very special extravaganza, Myke, Tom and Dan decided to record a very normal episode of Thoroughly Considered. Topics include the Apple Vision Pro, Dan's new computer, the Mark Three, and a couple follow-up items.

On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Jason Fried, the cofounder and CEO of 37 Signals, the company behind Basecamp and Hey. His object is the Lange 1.

Myke, Tom, and Dan begin with some Red Nose follow up (as one does), then have a long discussion about how to price products.

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the big business changes happening at Studio Neat. Then, a Dan's Tech Corner about iPhone longevity and cases.

Myke, Tom, and Dan follow up on the Jony Ive Red Nose before chatting about Myke's new notebook, the Sidekick Notepad. Then Myke helps Tom and Dan decide on a new computer.

On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Christina Warren, a journalist turned developer who currently works as the senior dev advocate at GitHub, while also hosting the podcasts Overtired and Rocket. Her object is the Sharp MD-MT15 MiniDisc player.

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Jony Ive's design for the new Comic Relief Red Nose, give an update on Mark Three shipping, and discuss some changes happening at Studio Neat. They close the show with a discussion of Apple, VR headsets tethered to battery packs, and courage.

On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Stephan Ango, the cofounder of Lumi, and now at Obsidian, software for note taking and thought processing. His object is the Hario V60.

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about their plans for 2023, including some big changes at Studio Neat. After some follow up, a Dan's Tech Corner about large monitors.

A follow-up centric episode that naturally morphs into a Dan's Tech Corner.

On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Alex Cox, the host of many beloved podcasts, including Do By Friday, Roboism, and Two-Headed Girl. Their object is the Game Boy Color.

Myke, Tom, and Dan discuss the ATP Chicken Hat, Tom's new venture, The Studio Neat Starter Kit gift box (coming soon!). Then they close the show by visiting their past gift guide recommendations to see if they still hold up.

On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Jason Snell, the host of several tech podcasts, and the founder of sixcolors.com, an Apple-centric website covering the intersection of technology and culture. His object is the Breville Tea Maker.

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about the reception of the new Material Docks, doing custom Mark Ones for other businesses, Mark Three progress, and then close the show with a Dan's Tech Corner about the staying power of the Dynamic Island.

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about merciless fundraising and a special edition Mark One for St. Jude, and the new Material Docks from Studio Neat. Then the lads look back on an XOXO talk they gave 10 years ago to see if they would change anything about it.

On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Betty Chen, an architecture project manager, who on the side runs the YouTube channel ARTiculations and cohosts the podcast Pictorial here on the Relay FM network. Her object is the Herman Miller Aeron Chair.

Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about The Last Detail, Mark Two Limited Edition 005, and how it feels to hire people. Then the lads discuss empathy machines and briefly touch on the book After Steve.

New side quest! On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between. Today's guest is Adam Lisagor, the founder of Sandwich Video, the preeminent studio for creating video commercials for tech products and services. His object is the Sonos Move.