4th And Forever is an American Football Podcast featuring Darren Butter and Stuart Bothwell - two Scotsmen who live in New Zealand and have an unhealthy obsession with American Football. Contact the lads on 4thAndForeverFootball@gmail.com or search for 4th And Forever Podcast on Facebook.
After an excellent and very varied slate of Divisional games, we now turn to the final four with two incredibly juicy match-ups full of intrigue, narratives and... ... oh I just got flagged for not having mentioned the Chiefs yet. 15 yard penalty on the Bills. Automatic 1st down... Commanders @ Eagles Bills @ Chiefs
Contrary to popular belief, Darren has not perished! He hath returned with insight for the upcoming Divisional Round games and the occassional look over the shoulder to what came before in the Wildcard Round. News: - Pats fire former Pro Bowl linebacker and hire former Pro Bowl linebacker - Cowboys move on from Mike McCarthy just in time for there to be noone left to replace him - Browns need a QB... duh Games: Texans @ Chiefs Commanders @ Lions Rams @ Eagles Ravens @ Bills
After taking some time out to recover, watch Hamilton vs Partick Thistle then being distracted by an episode of Still Game followed by a Best of Only An Excuse... the boy has only gone and pulled the NFC Super Wild Card Preview out of his behind!
IT'S SOMETHING! Stuart returns to bash out the AFC Super Wild Card Round match-ups before a throat issue knocks him out of action. Will he return for the NFC? Who knows? Do you care? Maybe? Are repeated questions a cheap writing device? Almost certainly yes.
Week 10 gave us a heap more one score games, and a number of shocks. But most of all... it gave us... DA RIZZ! And yes, that IS the real shape of his head. Can't wait to do a full feature on him if he keeps going like this.
The 5th of November 2024 is no doubt an incredibly important day. Millions across America and BILLIONS across the world have their eyes transfixed on the U-S of A. The time for conjecture is behind us. Now is the time for Americans to stand up... ... and tell us what they think about Za'Darius Smith going to Detroit. THIS IS YOUR POLITICS FREE ZONE, FOLKS! Come on in to the 4th and Forever Podcast!
Firstly: New podcast audio recording software is a-go! Let us know what you think! Week 8 threw up a slew of shock results, wacky finishes and story lines that will keep us satisfied until... well... week 9!
If you thought Darren's audio problems couldn't get any worse then last week, then you were SORELY mistaken! Now that I've hooked you in with a reason to test your ability to listen to someone speak into a microphone submerged in syrup between two Tempur mattresses (not a sponsor... yet), week 7 was an interesting one, wasn't it?! Key games: Detroit @ Minnesota Kansas City @ San Francisco
"Hey everybody! Darren's back! :D" ...*inaudible grumbling*... He may have forgotten how to appropriately record audio for a podcast, but he hasn't forgotten how to bring the heat when it comes to the NFL chat. Playing with a new recap formula, you end up hearing a lot of Stuart in this one. Man he loves himself, eh? Anyway, DAVANTE ADAMS WAS TRADED TO THE JETS!
SO LONG SALEH! With a bomb dropped in the hours leading up to recording, Stuart brought in the elder statesman - Steve Bothwell - once again to break down the crazy goings on in New Jersey!
Since Stuart and Stevie B were both preoccupied over the weekend, it's a swift run through week 4, but it's brand new seg time. "Are You For Real?!"
With Darren away again (and very much enjoying the fact that he has Jayden Daniels retained in our fantasy league for the next 4 years!), up steps Papa Both to the plate once again to assist Stuart in providing your weekly dose of NFL blethering. Key Week 3 Games: Texans @ Vikings Saints @ Eagles 49ers @ Rams Bengals @ Commanders Key Week 4 Games: Bengals @ Panthers Broncos @ Jets Commanders @ Cardinals Bills @ Ravens
"Substitution for 4th and Forever: Coming off, number 2 - Darren Butter. He will be replaced by number 51 - Steve Bothwell" *RAPTUROUS APPLAUSE!* Everyone loves a super-sub! In at the last minute for the week 2 recap/week 3 preview, fresh off the plane from his holiday, it's Papa Bothwell! Expect references to Lord Lucan and horrendously depressive diatribes on the fortunes of the Broncos. HIT IT!
Week 1 of the 2024 NFL season is - as the cliche goes - IN THE BOOKS! Stuart and Darren talk Ravens toes, Bengals woes and many more contests between foes! Sorry, I felt I had to keep the rhyme going. There is also a debut of a new segment of whimsy around the 2 minute mark! Focus Games: 49ers @ Vikings Lions @ Bucs Steelers @ Broncos Bengals @ Chiefs
HOLY FRIJOLES! We thought it would never arrive! Week 1 of the 2024 NFL season is ACTUALLY here! Stuart and Darren get to talk about actual, meaningful games full of genuine intriuge - and they couldn't be happier! WELCOME TO THE 2024 SEASON!
With a little over a week until the start of the NFL season, it's time to put a bow on the division preview series with the AFC East and South. Plenty of top tier rosters (of which the Patriots are NOT one) to get through in this one!
On to the AFC portion of the preview shows with the much maligned AFC West and the slaughterhouse that is the AFC North. Will Stuart manage to curb any Broncos optimism? Or is he a BO-liever?!
As we trek through two of Darren's most favouritistest divisions, Stuart develops a couple of new man-crushes along the way. NFC East and South it is!
OH MY GOD! Football is actually HAPPENING!... in pre-season form, but still. The regurlar season is hurtling towards us like a Devin Hester kickoff to the house, so we best get on with things! It's NFC West and North Preview time!
The world has held it's collective breath LONG ENOUGH… finally, the time has come… for DARREN'S All-Time Vibes Team Or Whatever!
What players stick in the twisted mind of Stuart when he thinks of his NFL journey? It's a trip down Memory Lane (which is just two blocks down from Nostalgia Street) as he names his top all-time non-Broncos vibes team... or whatever... he sort of understood the assignment!
The 2024 NFL Draft is DONEion rings, mates! Going at an exponential pace, Stuart and Darren hit the entire first round of the NFL draft... and kinda patches of other picks... look, we ain't NFL Network here!
Let's put a bow on this, shall we? NFC South + NFC West = DONE Roster Rundown = DONE NFL Draft = ... real soon!
Welcome to the North!... and East, in part 3 of our Roster Rundown series as we switch our attentions to the National Football Conference.
After a delay of a couple of days for a number of life reasons, here is your quintessential roster updates for the AFC South and West. Texans looking up? Stuart's Broncos spiralling much like his own life? At least the Chargers still suck... right...? All this and more on this week's 4th and Forever Podcast.
Not sure who went where during the tumult of free agency? Want to know which teams are setting up for success or faltering towards failure? Well 4th and Forever has got you covered with the Roster Rundown series, kicking things off with the AFC East and North!
Darren returns from the nether to provide us with his thoughts on Super Bo-OOOOH MY GOD, THERE'S NO TIME FOR THAT! There's Free Agent signings everywhere! My god! It's raining signings! Trades too! They are coming out the gosh darn waaaaaalls! *fires off hail of bullets* Ahem. All this and more on the 4th and Forever Podcast!
With Darren still out of the picture and Stuart desperate to get something uploaded, the help of an AI is enlisted to co-host a shortened Super Bowl 58 recap! Please give a warm welcome to DazBot2000! (PS - please wish Darren a speedy recovery. I don't want to do this again)
The time is now... ... well, that's a statement that is true no matter when you say it (don't @ me on that)... But this is Super Bowl week! Stuart and Darren combine to bring you the best possible insight* for two non-professional, uncertified fans of the game, into Super Bowl LVIII - that's 58 for those who never took Latin - between the San Francisco 49ers and the Kansas City Chiefs. (*quality of insight not yet verified) And, for those of you that get hung up about it: Not one single mention of Taylor Swift.
And there you have it folks; Four become two and your Super Bowl is set! Two very different, very high drama games would decide the representatives from the AFC and NFC. Darren bemoans the extra NFL week before... - Chiefs and Ravens was down to "The Wire" - Detroit and San Fran in a tale of two halves - Coaching additions And almost exactly 30 minutes in, you will be treated to an expletive ridden traversal into the psyche of Darren. My god I need to invest in a bleep button... All this, and more, on the 4th and Forever Podcast!
We swear, if you can make it past the first seven minutes of throwback European football references, the guys do get round to talking about the pound for pound best weekend on the NFL calendar - The Divisional Round! - Brief coaching catch-up - Also brief Bears sitch discussion - And a meeeeeeeeaty dose of Divisional Round Recaps All this, and a little on Harry Redknapp's wet dreams, this week on the 4th and Forever Podcast!
Oooooh the weather outside is... weather... And the laaaaaads are baaaack tae blether We're simply the best football shooooow Let it snow, let it snow, let it snooooooow! Super Wildcard Weekend was indeed Super Wild! - Coaching moves - This week's match-up recaps All this and more (after some technical mic difficulties in the first 17 or so minutes) on this week's 4th and Forever Podcast!
The golden wheat has been separated from the crap-covered chaff... also the Steelers made it... as the NFL playoffs are now SET! But before that, Stuart and Papa Both cover the darker side of the league at this time: - Black Monday Coaching Carousel (including breaking news!) - A TERRIFIC slate of games for Super Wildcard Weekend All this and a bunch of sh*te about sound levels and back-up QB monikers on the 4th And Forever Podcast!
The final playoff clinching scenarios have come into prime focus now, so Stuart and Steve look to wipe away the remaining muck from the lense to give you the best possible view of what's required in week 18. - Final playoff scenarios - Lamar cemented as MVP? + Ravens @ Dolphins - Biggest surprises of the 23-24 season This and all other manners of sh*te chat, on the 4th and Forever Podcast!
After an illness enforced bye week, Stuart is back on his feet (well, in his chair) and is joined by Papa Both himself. Right on time too, as some big Broncos news dropped not 24 hours ago! - Ravens @ 49ers GOTW - Russell's ride is over in Denver - Lions end 30 year title wait All this, and more, on the 4th and Forever Podcast!
Apparently all we need is for Darren to have a hard out and we can keep these things to around an hour! - All things tied to the Chiefs universe - Rams @ Ravens GOTW - Is the sky falling on the Eagles and Lions? Oh and Tommy DeVito's agent is the guy below. Just in case it wasn't immediately obvious to you ya
Week 13 of the NFL season has just passed us by. No, you have not got here via time machine - time really has gone that quickly! This week on the 4th and Forever Podcast: - 49ers stomp Philly in the "game of the week" - Trevor Lawrence joins a long list of starting QBs on the injury report - We give the Green Bay Packers some LOVE
46 million turkeys were consumed on Thanksgiving in the US, along with about 10 hours of NFL action! Neither Stuart nor Darren partook in the gorging of food, but certainly had their fill of football! - Frank Reich out in Carolina - GOTY between Buffalo and Philly - Are the Colts trending for the playoffs? - Quick playoffs check Also, Darren thought Stuart's lazy footballer comparison was too lazy.
Do not adjust your headset: Darren takes the reigns for our post week 11 episode! And (mic levels aside) what a fine job he did too, might I add! You decide for yourself! - Matt Canada is GONE - QB carousel - NFC Top Dawgs - AFC wildcard teams All this and some questionable Bebeto comparisons, on this week's 4th And Forever Podcast!
Oooft! There were too many close games decided by last second fieldgoals to count this week! ... well... six... BUT THAT'S A LOT! - Close games - Crazy Monday Night Football - Lions vs Chargers spotlight - AFC North at a crossroads And a smidgen of fun and laughter along the way.
In a week of close games, blow-outs, QB carousels and coach firings, the 4th and Forever team have you covered with the main takeaways from the post week 9 landscape, including: - Josh McDaniels' is leavin' Las Vegas (see this week's AI generated images below - the prompt was "Las Vegas Raiders Headcoach Josh McDaniels as a sad clown, leaving Las Vegas in a clown car") - "The Bash In The Bay" - Tampa, that is. - Josh Dobbs can probably do your job better than you, and he only just got here. - "NFC pure sh*te?" - Also some Ruud Van Nistelrooy chat for some reason. Why do you keep listening to this? That's on you.
MUAHAHAHAHA! It's spooky season at 4th and Forever! After getting caught up with all the last minute trade deadline happenings, the devilish duo talk: - Washington clearing their (haunted) house - Kirk Cousins is getting CUT UP (at least, likely getting surgery) - Have the Titans found their QB of the future?... maybe he's a werewolf or something. I don't know. And the most terrifying topic of all: - What SCARES you most... in the NFL?!
With Darren still in full house-moving mode, Stuart continues to sail on the sea of solitude towards a desert island of lonliness... and is beginning to sound like he is losing his bearings at points. Solo-bolo-pod-yolo it is! Vikings ^ Ravens ^ 49ers v Bills v All this, and more unhinged coverage from the 4th and Forever Podcast!
With no Darren... or Steve... or Eric... Stuart decides to sail the good ship 4th And Forever on his lonesome and JUST about makes it into harbour. In a much shorter (perhaps "merficully" so?) episode, Mr Bothwell covers what happened in week 6, what's coming up in week 7, muses on some QB injuries and talks if the Rams might be about to make a move.
The lads talk the potential "sliding doors moment" of Justin Jefferson going to IR. Also, isBilly B is on the hotseat? What's going on in the AFC North? Can anyone stop the 49ers? Is jetlag a thing in the NFL? And who of the 3-2/2-2/2-3 teams will emerge from the pack?
ONE HUNDRED episodes, guys! How the hell did that happen?! Featuring big thanks to all of our supporters and contributors over the years and an amazing introduction from NFL legend, "Baldy" himself - Bryan Baldinger!
- Broncos record-setting ineptitude - Kirk Cousins trade...? - Vikings and Chargers compete to blow a win. - The Sam Howell train derailed. - Cardinals and Texans surprising people - How about dem Cowboys...? - 3-0 Teams And stick around for a few tasty soundbites during the outro!
Another top player goes out for the season, the best and worst of the 0-2 teams and much more spouted crap, from the boys making an earth sandwich from Scotland and New Zealand respectively - Stuart and Darren.
Everyone loves the backup QB in the NFL and everyone loves the backup host in 4th and Forever! Steve Bothwell joins Stuart to talk week 1 fallout.
There's nothing like talking about the AFC South to energise two tired podcasters! Also the West happens, including some interesting takes on Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs.
Getting caught up after Stuart's trip to Paris (I don't know if he mentioned he was going there, did he?) part one of an AFC preview doubleheader begins with the North and East.