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A podcast about pathology, medicine, and science. Mostly. Disclaimer: This podcast and its website do not constitute medical advice. Always seek the advice of your own physician or other qualified health care professional regarding any medical questions or conditions.

Natalie Banet


    • Apr 29, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 38 EPISODES


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    Episode 38: Why (Gyn)Pathology (Vol 8), with Drs. Laura Tafe, David Kolin, and Xavier Matias-Guiu!

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2021 87:08


    Join me as I speak with three knowledgable, funny, and insightful Pathologists. We talk about their journeys into medicine and research, what is happening in the field now, and favorite things to do in their spare time.

    Episode 37: Surgery, Parenting, and Glitter in the Era of Covid-19 with Dr. Brittany Bankhead-­Kendall

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2021 48:49


    Dr. Brittany Bankhead-­Kendall is an Assistant Professor of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery at Texas Tech University. We discuss her path to Surgery, doing a fellowship while Covid-19 hit the US, being a parent and physician, and the importance of being yourself at work (let the glitter fly!) An empowering show.

    Episode 36: Why (Gyn)Pathology (Vol 7), with Drs. C. Matt Quick and Karen Talia!

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2021 150:06


    Join me as I speak with Drs. C. Matt Quick and Karen Talia. We talk about their journeys into medicine and Pathology with many detours, laughs, and great advice for those thinking of a career in this field! Read more about the episode by clicking here.

    Episode 35: Season 2 Premiere with Josh Sommer (Chordoma Foundation)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2021 62:47


    Season 2 Premiere with a special guest and friend, Josh Sommer. He is the founder of the Chordoma Foundation. We talk about his experiences with chordoma, creating the foundation - from cell lines to fundraising, and what's on the horizon for treatment and research. An inspiring listen!

    Episode 34: Season 1 Finale: Putting 2020 in the rearview! (with Dr. Cristina McLaughlin)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2021 41:32


    A look back at 2020 with my friend and first guest! We also get into choosing Pathology as a career (the need to deeply understand things and flexibility play a role), how to get a good night's sleep, and why our news diets have changed.

    Episode 33: Why (Gyn) Pathology, with two special guests!

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2020 104:48


    Join me as I speak with Drs. Jennifer Bennett and Joe Rabban. We talk about their journeys into Pathology and cover a lot of ground, including community versus academic practice, an interest in science that began with a nuclear reactor, Aesop's fables, mentorship, and what one should look for in a Gyn Pathology fellowship.

    Episode 32: Scientific journalism, and the effects of Covid-19 and HPV in the prison population with Dr. Bryn Nelson.

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 48:52


    I'm joined by Dr. Bryn Nelson, a microbiologist and scientific journalist who discusses his work covering HPV in the prison population, Covid-19, and the book he is working on concerning human waste, aptly titled Treasure in Wasteland.

    Episode 31: Happy Friendsgiving! A conversation with Dr. Laura Wood.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2020 59:27


    I'm joined by Dr. Laura Wood, Associate Professor at Johns Hopkins. We were fellows at the same time at JHH. In this episode, we discuss her journey to loving science (orange juice is involved), what it's like to run her own lab (Covid makes an appearance), the importance of collaboration, and what to eat for lunch!

    Episode 30: Why (Gyn) Pathology, with LOTS more special guests!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2020 103:21


    I'm joined by Drs. Lora Hedrick-Ellenson (Director, Gynecologic Pathology, Memorial Sloan Kettering), Glenn McCluggage (Consultant Histopathologist in Royal Group of Hospitals Trust, Belfast) and Dr. Fabiola Medeiros (Director, Gynecology, Placental and Perinatal Pathology, Cedars-Sinai).

    Episode 29: A revolution in teaching and learning with Drs. Josh Kim and Edward Maloney

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020 60:39


    I'm joined by my brother-in-law Dr. Josh Kim, and his co-author Dr. Edward Maloney to discuss their new book "The Low-Density University: 15 Scenarios for Higher Education." We discuss online education, working from home, and higher education in America.

    Episode 28: “We can’t make good decisions based on bad surveys” with Dr. Anthony Artino.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2020 54:27


    I'm joined by Dr. Anthony (Tony) Artino, a Professor at George Washington University and the Interim Associate Dean for Evaluation & Educational Research. We discuss survey design (no, you can't "just" do a survey), distance learning, the Dunning-Kruger effect (what? is this what's happening to our whole country), and how everyone is "over surveyed."

    Episode 27: Why (Gyn) Pathology? with Dr. Robert Kurman.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2020 58:29


    An interview with one of my mentors! Dr. Kurman discusses getting started in Gyn Pathology, his mentors, which of his research findings have surprised him, and brings me up to speed on pickle ball. A must listen.

    Episode 26: Radical Authenticity and Intentionality with Dr. Patricia Poitevien

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2020 56:03


    I'm joined by Dr. Patricia Poitevien, An Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at Brown, who also serves as the Assistant Dean for the Office of Diversity and Multicultural Affairs. We discuss her concept of "radical authenticity" that helped her navigate her career, and she offers TONS of excellent advice, including defining oneself before others can do it for you, and the necessity of intentionality in creating a diverse and equitable workplace.

    Episode 25: Why (Gyn) Pathology? Vol. 2 - Featuring Dr. Brigitte (Biggy) Ronnett!

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2020 68:13


    It's a Big(gy) show today! I'm joined by one of my mentors, Dr. Brigitte (Biggy) Ronnett! We discuss her origin story and how she came to choose Gyn Pathology, her experiences in publication and editing, and how to actually pronounce her name. Find out why so many find her to be inspirational and an exceptional educator!

    Episode 24: Six podcasts, eleven voices, one mega show! (A crossover show for the ages)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2020 71:16


    Featuring 6 Pathology/Science Shows! Discussions about riveting topics like: the necessity of outlines, sound editing, how to chose the ideal show topic, and Pathology jokes that will make your skin hurt! Including: People of Pathology (Dennis Strenk), Deeper Levels (yours truly), Computationally Yours (Sabah Kadri & Arshi Arora), Pathpod (Sara Jiang, Christina Arnold, Michael Arnold, & Kamran Mirza), ScopeMD (Lori Ryan), & Dead Men Do Tell Tales (Jordan Taylor & Nicole Croom)

    Episode 23: Patient Voting, Social Media, and the cautious use of expletives with Dr. Kelly Wong.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2020 40:12


    I'm joined by Dr. Kelly Wong, a resident physician at Brown in Emergency Medicine. She started an organization, Patient Voting, which helps those hospitalized on election day vote via absentee ballot. We also discuss her experiences with Covid-19 in RI, her attitudes toward social media, and our favorite restaurants in the area.

    Episode 22: Why (Gyn) Pathology? Vol. 2 - Featuring LOTS MORE special guests.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2020 72:50


    This episode is the second in a series with specialists in Gyn Pathology, with interviews about why they chose this field, what theirs jobs entail, and what collaboration adds to their jobs. THREE guests including (in order) Drs. Carlos Parra-Herran, Esther Oliva (minute 30), and Blake Gilks (minute 54). A must listen!

    Episode 21: "A right to health and a right to live" with Dr. Akilah Jefferson Shah.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2020 42:39


    Today's show features Dr. Akilah Jefferson Shah, an Assistant Professor of of Allergy and Immunology at the University of Arkansas. We discuss her recent piece on the Huffington Post "COVID-19 Has Devastated The Black Community. Here’s Why And What Needs To Change.” A must-listen episode with information on vaccines, the work of increasing diversity, equity, and inclusion, and our favorite seasons of the year.

    Episode 20: ACE2 is having a moment: with special guest Dr. Ankit Patel

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2020 54:39


    On today's show I am joined by Dr. Ankit Patel, a Nephrology fellow at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and author of recent articles concerning the role of angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) in Covid-19. We discuss ACE2, including a study in children, and what practicing Nephrology is like in this time.

    Episode 19: The Impact of Pathology on Patient Care, with Drs. Lotte Mulder and Jeff Myers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2020 57:56


    On this show, I welcome Drs. Lotte Mulder and Jeff Myers. We discuss their recent article “Frontline Workers in the Backrooms of COVID-19: Caring for the Living and the Dead" from The American Journal of Clinical Pathology. We also discuss patient-centered Pathology care, The #MulderMethod, and guitarists. A must-listen!

    Episode 18: Perspectives on Medical Education: from a Senior Associate Dean to a Second Year Student (Guests Dr. Alan Tunkel and Leigh Kinney).

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2020 83:10


    On today’s show, I interview two folks from the Warren Alpert Medical School at Brown University, one who is shaping policy, and the other who is learning to be a physician. Great conversations about integrating remote learning, how to maximize safety, and also standardized testing and adapting to life in medical school.

    Episode 17: Why (Gyn) Pathology? With LOTS of special guests, Vol. 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2020 86:30


    First in a series with specialists in Gyn Pathology, with interviews about why they chose this field, what theirs jobs entail, and those that helped them along the way. FOUR guests including (in order) Drs. Kay Park, Kruti Maniar, Niloofar Nasseri-Nik, and Naveena Singh. A must listen!

    Episode 16: Epidemiology, Big Data, and Health Equity in Cancer Research (with special guest Mya Roberson).

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2020 51:55


    On this show, I welcome Maya Roberson, a Ph.D. student at the University Of North Carolina, who focuses on Health Equity in Cancer Research. We discuss her recent publication “Premenopausal gynecologic surgery and survival among black and white women with breast cancer,” her experiences as a Black American growing up in rural America, what inspired her to join her chosen field, and how she became a Trustee just after graduating from Brown University in 2016. Disclaimer: This podcast does not constitute medical advice. Always seek the advice of your own physician or other qualified health care professional regarding any medical questions or conditions.

    Episode 15: Two Peas in a Pod(cast): A Deeper Levels/People of Pathology Crossover episode!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2020 66:08


    On this show, I am joined by Dennis Strenk, the host of the People of Pathology Podcast, and a Pathologists’ Assistant at Wisconsin Diagnostic Laboratories in Milwaukee, MN. We talk inside secrets of the podcasting scene, including interview strategies and theme songs, and we both reveal our favorite specimen to gross!

    Episode 14: Improving Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity in Pathology (with special guest Dr. Marissa White).

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2020 56:40


    Today’s episode features Marissa White, an Assistant professor and Breast Pathology consultant at Johns Hopkins and an emerging leader in the field of Pathology education. We talk about her ongoing efforts to improve access to the field of Pathology and the state of diversity in medicine and Pathology. Disclaimer: This podcast does not constitute medical advice. Always seek the advice of your own physician or other qualified health care professional regarding any medical questions or conditions.

    Episode 13: Pregnancy and health care disparities in the time of Covid-19, with special guest Dr. Jackie Parchem

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2020 58:53


    On today’s show I welcome Dr. Jackie Parchem, an OB/Gyn who specializes in Maternal Fetal Medicine, and an Assistant Professor at the McGovern Medical School, (UT Houston). We discuss what life is like for a practicing OBGyn in this time and her very interesting research, especially as it relates to health care disparities. Disclaimer: This podcast does not constitute medical advice. Always seek the advice of your own physician or other qualified health care professional regarding any medical questions or conditions.

    Episode 12: Digital Pathology: A new microscope? (With Drs. Maheswari Mukherjee and Liron Pantanowitz)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2020 62:53


    Today's show explores the changing role of digital Pathology in education and clinical workflow. We begin with a discussion of my guests' recent publication "Eye tracking in cytotechnology education: “visualizing” students becoming experts,” published in The Journal of the American Society of Cytopathology March/April edition. We also consider the role of digital microscopy in education and clinical duties, as well as the changing field of Cytopathology.

    Episode 11: Histology education in a virtual medium: Exceptional videos from the mind of a medical student (with special guest Chris Demas).

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2020 54:32


    Today’s episode features Chris Demas, a third (almost fourth) year medical student at the Alpert Medical School of Brown University. He has a YouTube channel, Illustrations of Histology which he created after taking histology as a first year medical student. We discuss his process of creating these videos, how learning is changing to adapt to modern times, and even which kinds of pencils we prefer. Disclaimer: This podcast does not constitute medical advice. Always seek the advice of your own physician or other qualified health care professional regarding any medical questions or conditions.

    Episode 10: Global Maternal Health and Emerging Infections with Dr. David Schwartz.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2020 79:54


    On today’s show, I am joined by Dr. David Schwartz, Professor of Pathology at The Medical College of Georgia and a specialist in global maternal health, medical anthropology, and epidemiology. We discuss previous pandemics and their effects on pregnant patients, development of vaccines, and what we know (or think we know) about placental pathology and maternal-fetal transmission with the SARS-Co V-2 virus. Disclaimer: This podcast does not constitute medical advice. Always seek the advice of your own physician or other qualified health care professional regarding any medical questions or conditions.

    Episode 9: A view from Houston: Cancer care, the state of research, and how to consume information (with special guest Dr. Anirban Maitra).

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2020 55:42


    On today’s show: Dr. Anirban Maitra, Professor of Pathology at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center. We discuss clinical pathology and research activities, how cancer patients are being cared for during a pandemic, I learn that “covidization” is a word, and Dr. Maitra gives a new meaning to “BC” and “AC”

    Episode 8: From early Medical School graduation to an inpatient Covid unit: An (interim) intern’s experience (with special guest Dr. Gregory Kirschen).

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2020 47:36


    On today’s show: Dr. Grergory Kirschen, a recent M.D./Ph.D. graduate who immediately began work as of this month on an inpatient Covid-19 unit. He tells us what it's like to suddenly be an intern, how trainees are fairing, and even drops his own Pathology-related bad joke! An inspiring show and a must-listen.

    Episode 7: Physician Burnout in Pathology- with special guests Edna Garcia and Dr. Alexandra Brown

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2020 52:03


    Today we discuss physician burnout in Pathology- with special guest Edna Garcia, first author of the recent AJCP article "The American Society for Clinical Pathology’s Job Satisfaction, Well-Being, and Burnout Survey of Pathologists.” We are also joined by Dr. Brown, the Chief Officer of Medical Quality at ASCP, who speaks about experiencing burnout and ways to make it better. A very timely conversation in a time of increased stress!

    Episode 6: A Pulmonologists' view from the ICU (Intesive Care Unit) with Dr. Andrew Courtwright

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2020 52:31


    In today's episode, I speak with Dr. Andrew Courtwright, who is an Assistant Professor of Clinical Medicine in the Department of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. We speak about the clinical findings in patients with severe manifestations of Covid-19 and the ethics of resource allocation in pandemics. And I learn the mechanics of prone position ventilation.

    Episode 5: The public health imperative, featuring Dr. Sara Wobker

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2020 54:04


    Join us this week for a discussion about public health and how it is impacting all of our lives. My guest is not only a pathologist, a friend, and former co-resident, but also has training in public health and helps me put this pandemic into a broader context. And we tell really bad inside jokes about pathology! You'll learn! You'll cringe! It's great!

    Episode 4: "A pause for applause (and then I almost cried)" with special guest Dr. Laura G. Pastrián (Madrid, Spain)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2020 35:54


    Join me in learning about what life is like for a Pathologist in Spain in the midst of this pandemic with our special guest, Dr. Laura G. Pastrián, a Surgical Pathologist who specializes in Gastrointestinal Pathology at La Paz University Hospital in Madrid, Spain. We even managed to time the call to join in some national appreciation for all the workers keeping the country going.

    Episode 3: ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) in patients with COVID-19 with special guest Dr. Sanjay Mukhopadhyay.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2020 43:54


    In episode 3, I am joined by Dr. Sanjay Mukhopadhyay, who is Director of Pulmonary Pathology at Cleveland Clinic. We discuss ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome), and what is known about histopathologic findings in patients who have died as a result of SARS-CoV-2.

    Episode 2: Information Niagra Falls

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2020 29:25


    In episode 2, we focus on information. Places to get it, how to titrate the right amount, people to trust. I welcome Dr. Howard Forman is Professor of Radiology and Biomedical Imaging at Yale, and he also oversees the MBA program and has a background in public policy. We have an interesting conversation about the novel corona virus. I also contemplate the role of physicians as front-line healthcare workers as soldiers in a war.

    Episode 1: Test Early, Test Often with special guest Dr. Cristina McLaughlin

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2020 57:00


    I welcome an old friend to talk about a brief history of testing for COVID-19 and where we stand now.

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