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Podcast… the final frontier! "Star Trek: The Next Generation" devotee and authority Matt Mira leads Next Gen skeptic Andrew Secunda into the deepest reaches of the series episode by episode. Listen as they discuss, debate, and enjoy all the legendary show's strengths, failings, and innovations. Email us! STTNCPOD@gmail.com Twitter: @StarTrekTNC Web: startrektnc.com

Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda


    • May 23, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 2h AVG DURATION
    • 267 EPISODES

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    The Star Trek The Next Conversation podcast is an absolute must-listen for any Star Trek fan. With its witty banter, humorous insights, and deep dives into each episode of The Next Generation, this podcast keeps fans entertained for hours on end. Andy and Matt have great chemistry and their discussions are both informative and entertaining. The unedited nature of the show adds to its charm, making listeners feel like they're hanging out with two friends talking about their favorite TV show.

    One of the best aspects of this podcast is the relaxed and casual atmosphere. Andy and Matt's genuine love for Star Trek shines through in every episode. They provide insightful analysis of each episode while also injecting plenty of humor and personal anecdotes. This makes the show highly relatable and enjoyable to listen to, even for casual fans who may not be as knowledgeable about Star Trek lore.

    Furthermore, the length of the episodes is another highlight. Clocking in at two or more hours, these episodes offer a deep dive into each episode of The Next Generation, leaving no stone unturned. The hosts cover everything from plot details to behind-the-scenes trivia, creating a comprehensive listening experience for die-hard fans.

    However, one potential downside of this podcast is that it can sometimes feel disorganized or rambling. With its unedited format, there are moments where discussions veer off-topic or become repetitive. This may be frustrating for listeners looking for a more structured analysis or concise conversations.

    In conclusion, The Star Trek The Next Conversation podcast is a must-listen for any Star Trek enthusiast. Its blend of humor, insight, and passion make it a highly enjoyable experience. While it may not be the most polished or organized podcast out there, its authenticity and dedication to all things Star Trek make it a standout choice for fans seeking engaging discussions on their favorite TV series.



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    DS9 s3e24 "Shakaar"

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2025 133:24


    Kai Winn continues to be one of the most duplicitous, unpalatable, self-serving, hypocritical leaders in Trek history - whew! Thank goodness it's just sci-fi.[Episode discussion begins around 1:12]

    DS9 s3e23 "Family Business"

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2025 134:38


    We're goin' to Feringinar! Quark and Rom hit the Ferengi homeworld to SETTLE SOME BUSINESS! Is this a second downbeat episode in a row? Is the next one gonna be Bashir and Dax go to a thrift shop? Anyhoo, Matt tallies up the Andy-points but can the episode go latinum?[Episode discussion begins around 1:07]

    DS9 s3e22 "Explorers"

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 148:17


    Ben and Jake sail through the universe powered by the ultimate B plot! Or is it just a plot? Meanwhile, Matt hasn't been feeling well and Andy's got a Thomas Riker-sized existential crisis, but so what else is new?[Episode discussion begins around 1:21, also trigger warning in the first 20 min for those sensitive to hearing about, um...tummy issues]

    DS9 s3e21 “The Die is Cast”

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2025 141:56


    Garak goes full Obsidian Order, Odo needs a moisturizing routine, Eddington secures his place as Cmdr. F This Guy, and Andy fights an even greater threat to a podcaster than the Dominion...a sneezing fit![Episode discussion begins around 1:16. And this is a HIDE YOUR NUTS ALERT! Due to a scheduling...mm, issue? The next drop will be middle of the month.]

    DS9 s3e20 “Improbable Cause”

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2025 163:24


    It's a road trip with Garak and Odo (who we probably shouldn't forget about)! Will they solve the mysteries of what's happening on DS9? Or is Garak too much of a lazybones?[Episode discussion begins around 1:30. 45ish - Disco Spoiler, 2:33 - possible later DS9 spoilers, although it's mostly Andy musing]

    DS9 s3e19 “Through the Looking Glass”

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2025 138:12


    It's a Mirror episode, and you know what that means! Andy's gonna like it and Matt's gonna hate it - OR will our opinions be mirror-universed too?? Sisko steps into the Mirror Universe and boy, is he sorta shrugsville about it. And his dead wife Jennifer is back! Oh man, can't wait to see how Sisko's gonna...huh, just sort of chill about it. But at least Bashir/Vantika is back! Which is basically Mirror Alliance Bashir.[Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

    DS9 s3e18 “Distant Voices”

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2025 138:00


    Bashir grapples with aspects of himself...like his professionalism! And his great love of tennis! It kinda doesn't really go beyond that.[Episode discussion begins around 1:23]

    DS9 s3e17 “Visionary”

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2025 136:23


    O'Brien goes all Back to the Future 2, Bashir kills him and doesn't seem to care, and Matt and Andy ask who's the real MVC? O'Brien...or O'Brien??[Episode discussion begins around 1:14]

    DS9 s3e16 “Prophet Motive”

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2025 149:04


    The Grand Nagus is acting kooky and it takes us several acts to find out why, but when we do, oh boy!.....we know then. But buckle up, because Dr. Bashir is nominated for an award, and Andy and Matt can't wait to hear who the other made-up nominees are! Several times. And someone's mispronouncing something, but you might be surprised who it's not.[Episode discussion begins around 1:27! I wish I could say the digressions end there.]For more information and extra content, visit patreon.com/startrektnc

    STAR TREK: GENERATIONS - a TNC special episode as part of the STAR TREK PODCAST CRAWL

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2025 227:05


    Our most requested Star Trek content is for us to finally cover the movies - of course it would take more motivated forces to get us to do it, and now you got one! Matt and Andy cover in detail STAR TREK: GENERATIONS - Shatner cooking eggs, Data giving a McCauley Culkin, "YES!" and Picard entering his greatest dream - a Dickens-style Christmas? With a wrap-up crossing of the streams with our Star Trek podcaster brethren from Greatest Generation!Here's an overview of what's happening, and links to finding the other fine participating podcasts to give them a listen and how to donate to The National Center for Science Education:"This episode is part of a project called the Star Trek Pod Crawl. We're a group of Star Trek podcasts raising money for science education by banding together and making special episodes about some of our favorite Star Trek films. Join us in supporting the National Center for Science Education and check out all other great podcast episodes in this series by visiting StarTrekPodCrawl.com"For more information on Star Trek: The Next Conversation:patreon.com/startrektnc

    DS9 s3e14 “Heart of Stone”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2024 136:28


    Kira faces becoming a permanently encased-in-resin collectible as Odo reveals a hidden - or possibly already pretty obvious - truth! Meanwhile Sisko performs a one man intervention scene on Nog in Nog's best ep so far. [Episode discussion begins around 1:07. And you know what they say about the winter and nuts...it's a great time to eat heated ones!]

    DS9 s3e13 “Life Support”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2024 131:47


    Kai Winn returns to DS9 with an evil...nothing? And Bareil sings his swansong as only he can...tediously.[Episode discussion begins around 1:17]

    DS9 s3e15 “Destiny”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2024 126:00


    The sparks fly between O'Brien and a filthy Cardie, while Andy asks how long we'll be watching Kira's new haircut, and Matt continues his lobbying for the Dominion.[Episode discussion begins around 1:05ish]

    DS9 s3e12 “Past Tense, Part II”

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2024 128:19


    The second part of DS9's eerie vision of the "past" (aka 2024) as Sisko continues to masquerade as "Bell, Gabriel Bell" (Bond theme) while Frank Military continues to be an intimidating criminal to no one.[Episode discussion begins around 1:10]

    DS9 s3e11 “Past Tense, Part I”

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2024 122:55


    In tense times, TNC is there to talk about episodes of Star Trek that throw back to exactly the same year with different tense times, but is that what they meant by the title? Also we ask the eternal question, "Is Frank Military a made-up name?"[Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

    DS9 s3e10 “Fascination”

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2024 157:03


    Everybody's in love with everybody! Just like Naked Now, except crappy and with less sense! And also the return of the oozing non-sexuality of Bareil![Episode discussion begins around 1:30ish]

    DS9 s3e9 “Defiant”

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2024 170:34


    DS9 s3e8 20 “Meridian”

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2024 127:14


    Jadzia is hot for a bland douchebag, Quark tries to pull some Barclay creepology with Kira, and Andy has a new theory about Sisko. [Episode discussion begins around 1:05ish]

    DS9 s3e7 “Civil Defense”

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2024 152:46


    Someone's joined the Q Continuum (the TNC Patreon level - it's possible it also gains you access to the actual Q Continuum, we just can't promise)! Time to discuss! Meanwhile, Garak goes head-to-head with Dukat, Quark and Odo spend some alone time, and Jake, Ben, and O'Brien clamber around some ducts. But does this add up to Andy and Matt thinking the episode is good or bad? And can it be bad when it may have the funniest moment in all of Star Trek??[Episode discussion begins around 1:37 - LOOK, THE Q CONTINUUM?! WE HAD TO DOWNLOAD]

    DS9 s3e6 “The Abandoned”

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2024 136:22


    Odo adopts a Jem'Hadar, who he tries to train out of murdering people by raising his bloodlust in the holodeck. Minor Mardah spoiler around 1:53ish, for the Mardiacs.[Episode discussion begins around 1:09ish]

    DS9 s3e5 “Second Skin”

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2024 220:58


    DS9 s3e5 “Second Skin”Kira comes down with a bad case of the Cardies! And post-Vegas STLV, Matt and Andy are somehow even more fully off the rails than usual as the episode discussion begins around - get this - 2:06ish]And due to one of the many insane digressions in this episode, if any of you feel swayed to buy WWE 2K24, use one of these links. I signed us up to be Amazon Affiliates and I barely understand it, so let us know in the comments if you actually bought one and we'll see what happens, but obviously no pressure at all - just curious. (Not even if I had to make separate links for each platform, but whatevs)Ps4 standard https://amzn.to/46P5LHZPS4 deluxe https://amzn.to/4dRCVsRPS5 standard https://amzn.to/4cwjAMoPS5 Deluxe https://amzn.to/4dnjU1oPC Deluxe https://amzn.to/46Z35rmPC Forty Years of Wrestling https://amzn.to/4dsyg0AXBox One Standard https://amzn.to/3X8Fxg7XBox series X Standard https://amzn.to/4fLOLWZXBox series X Deluxe https://amzn.to/4dR0j9R

    DS9 s3e4 “Equilibrium”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2024 121:15


    A treasure trove of Trill answers for Andy.... in a super boring treasure chest? And Matt wonders if Jadzia is losing it - or is the character just getting interesting?[Episode discussion begins at a brisk 56:00ish]

    DS9 s3e3 “The House of Quark”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2024 158:23


    A Klingon episode that Matt actually likes? And can a regular, standard fantastic episode get 10 Andys? Have Keiko and O'Brien gone from a couple of wet noodles to Star Trek's horniest couple?Also, possible SPOILERS for those who practice: 8:00ish STAR TREK: PICARD 35:00ish-39:00ish STAR TREK (2009) Romulus stuff 1:14ish VOYAGER[Episode discussion begins around 1:37]

    DS9 s3e2 “The Search, Part II”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2024 123:34


    Odo meets his people then tosses something into one of his people's strike zone…or does he? Matt and Andy discuss if people are really a-holes if somebody just dreams about them being a-holes. And now the conclusion. [Episode discussion begins around 53:00ish]

    DS9 s3e1 “The Search, Part I”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2024 153:59


    There's a new starship in town, and this one's built to kick ass, Federation style! Wait, is that Federation style? Also, Matt and Andy continue to question if, in fact, the Dominion was right.AND MINOR ALERT: Due to a scheduling mess this month, we're gonna probably be recording "The Search, Pt 2" this Wednesday, although it might take a few days to get it posted, so if you want to listen fast and get your comments in, great! But if you want to comment in the subsequent episode on both, also feel free.][Episode discussion begins around 1:13. If it matters to anyone, lots of PICARD and STAR TREK 2009 spoilers at around 1:53-2:00]

    DS9 s2e26 “The Jem'Hadar”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2024 128:26


    It's a high octane thrill-ride of pew-pews! (eventually, and briefly.) Until then, it's a strangely slow farce on a camping trip. Is it fun or dull? Andy and Matt can't agree. And if you're a hailbag skip-per, check out the beginning for A BIG TNC NEWSFLASH![Episode discussion begins around 57:00ish]

    DS9 s2e25 “Tribunal”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2024 131:57


    DS9 s2e25 “Tribunal” Matt obsesses over an apparent time traveler from the 1970s, and Andy enjoys a cavalcade of funny characters in this exploration of the Cardassian legal system. Remember folks, winning isn't everything! As this podcast proves. [Episode discussion begins around 1:05ish]Premium bonus content, including Star Trek: Voyager, Enterprise, Discovery, Strange New Worlds, and Marvel movies (MCU) discussions, on our Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/startrektnc

    DS9 s2e24 “The Collaborator”

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2024 112:22


    Is this episode a nuanced tale of political intrigue or b-b-b-boring? Or both? Andy sings the praises of Louise Fletcher's villain who makes Nurse Ratched seem palatable, the boys debate Vedek Bareil's pecs. [Episode discussion begins around 50:00ish]Premium bonus content, including Star Trek: Voyager, Enterprise, Discovery, Strange New Worlds, and Marvel movies (MCU) discussions, on our Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/startrektnc

    DS9 s2e23 “Crossover” - a semi funny Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2024 155:09


    It's a trip back to Mirror Town, and one of our hosts loves it and one hates it! But will they be replaced by a reverse version of themselves by the end? Also: what does it take to kill a goo man?[Episode discussion begins 1:05ish]

    DS9 s2e22 “The Wire”

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2024 132:18


    A tour de force from recurring character Garak in bizarrely play-like long scenes hooks Andy and Matt, as Mr. Fasc-tastic (Mr. Fascistastic? Mr. Fascistic?) Odo checks the cameras he's hidden all around DS9. [Episode discussion begins around 58:00, takes a Letterman detour, then actually begins at 1:06ish]

    DS9 s2e21 “The Maquis, Part II”

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2024 119:57


    The second part of this Maquis de Sade-centric two-parter, one of the few Treks to follow the possible Best of Both Worlds/Godfather II template of 2 being better than 1. To Andy's shock, Odo show the Mr. Fantastic powers he always assumed he was hiding, and Dukat starts to live up to his (future) legend. [Episode discussion begins around 1:00ish]

    DS9 s2e20 “The Maquis, Part I”

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2024 137:33


    Is Bernie Casey a badmiral or a badactor? Or neither? And Dax is dating a Ferengi offscreen - is it Quark, who we are led to believe is making a turn from creep to charmer? Meanwhile, Matt has HAD it with the Maquis. Even though this is their first episode. [Episode discussion start 1:08ish]

    DS9 s2e19 “Blood Oath”

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2024 136:53


    Jadzia gets tangled in a Klingon plot with bat'leths and convos about honor galore and Andy loves it! Matt, predictably, feels otherwise. Also predictably: Trill Talk!™[Episode discussion begins around 1:15ish]

    DS9 s2e18 “Profit and Loss”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2024 154:27


    Quark falls in love with a Cardassian and Andy tries to give Susan from SEINFELD her due. [Episode discussion begins around 1:25ish]

    DS9 s2e17 “Playing God”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2024 124:06


    Jadzia Dax looks back on Jadzia's experiences, while Jadzia wonders what Curzon Dax was thinking - or is it Jadzia Dax that's wondering what Dax was thinking? Also, a mini-universe, dead vole puppets, and Jake tries to get with a Dabo girl/woman.[Episode discussion begins around 52 minutes in]

    DS9 s2e16 “Shadowplay”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2023 126:29


    Get ready for some hot wormhole action as Kira gets busy with a classic weird Trek "handsome man," Dax fixates on another tech monolith but doesn't immediately beam this one up, while Matt and Andy debate if Odo is connecting with an imaginary friend.[Episode discussion begins around 1:02]

    DS9 s2e15 “Paradise”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2023 126:17


    Sisko gets boxed, O'Brien goes Rambo, DS9 introduces us to another loathsome class A psycho fanatic, Matt tries to avoid eviction, and Andy engages in the longest vamp ever.[VAMP WARNING: Technically the episode discussion begins around 1:03, but at 1:05ish Andy begins the LONGEST VAMP EVER, and when it finally ends, Matt discusses his landlord meltdown, so the episode discussion doesn't begin in earnest until 1:17ish]This month, as requested, Matt and Andy will be adding a little Christmas bonus in the TNC Patreon stocking with a commentary episode on THE MUPPET CHRISTMAS CAROL!www.patreon.com/startrektnc

    DS9 s2e14 “Whispers”

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2023 123:01


    O'Brien sorta thinks there's an unspecified conspiracy when everybody (except Jake) starts acting a little weird! Matt and Andy debate whether Bashir has diversified his creep interests into grabbing O'Brien's strike zone for too long or if he's just poking him in the tummy, like all future doctors do. [Episode discussion begins 47:00ish]

    DS9 s2e13 “Armageddon Game”

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2023 130:39


    O'Brien gets sick with a highly non-contagious biological weapon virus, Andy still sees no evidence of why Bashir would ever become beloved by fans, and Maurice Hurley is excited about a double homicide investigation which Keiko solves... or doesn't? [Episode discussion begins around 55:00ish]

    DS9 s2e12 “The Alternate”

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2023 123:41


    Odo meets his daddy - is he a monster or a good daddy? Meanwhile Matt has some issues with Dax having an itchy transporter finger and Bashir is back in gear as everybody's favorite Deep Space Incel. [Episode discussion start :59ish in]

    DS9 s2e11 “Rivals”

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2023 150:48


    O'Brien is a RIVAL with Bashir in the episode, and Quark has a RIVAL in Chris Sarandon! And WHAT ELSE happens?? There's some little luck machines. Odo wanders around in the back of some shots. Kira trips (offscreen). Don't bother buckling up for this one, crew.[Episode discussion begins around 1:26ish]

    DS9 s2e10 “Sanctuary”

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2023 145:45


    The Bajorans give refugees the cold shoulder, the crew is SHOCKED at a matriarchal society, and the Universal Translator has more trouble with a new species than it even did in Darmok.[Episode discussion begins around 1:20ish, along with a lot of hails demanding we not tamper with the length (!)]FYI, if any of our Patreon crew have had problems with stupid Patreon rejecting your membership fees, please let us know.www.patreon.com/startrektnc

    DS9 s2e9 “Second Sight”

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2023 143:39


    Matt and Andy debate whether an alien is a vanishing figment of Sisko's imagination… or Batman! Meanwhile, the crew outdoes Alexander Rozhenko in HA HA HAs.[Episode discussion begins around 1:01ish]

    DS9 s2e8 "Necessary Evil”

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2023 132:27


    We're in full-on Terok NOIR mode and Constable Odo is on the case! Meanwhile, Matt has a theory about what a "Cardassian neck trick" is, and a lizard extra needs a few more classes at the Andrew Secunda School of Specific Acting. [Episode discussion begins around 1:05]

    DS9 s2e7 “Rules of Acquisition”

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2023 125:40


    Are the Ferengi adorable scamps or truly despicable? Hard to tell in this light farce minus fun episode. Tongo seems enjoyable, tho. [Episode discussion begins about 53:00]

    DS9 s2e6 “Melora”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2023 135:24


    Dr. Bashir works overtime to engage in some extracurricular anti-gravity activities with a visiting alien while Matt and Andy wonder why Dax suddenly has super strength. [Episode Discussion begins 1:07ish]

    DS9 s2e5 “Cardassians”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2023 130:16


    There's intrigue afoot and Gashir is on the case! Plus, a new couple of Andy's Theories™ and Matt and Andy debate who's more of a speciesist -- O'Brien or Keiko? [Episode discussion begins at about 1:08]Sign up for our Patreon for weekly coverage of STRANGE NEW WORLDS season 2, plus monthly episodes of VOYAGER!www.patreon.com/startrektnc

    DS9 “Invasive Procedures” s2e4

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2023 111:08


    Dax gets into hot water as Odo stands around wishing he had some special ability which would stop intruding criminals, while Matt and Andy play another round of "Is Bashir being a creepo or just a caring friend-doctor?"[Episode discussion begins at a blisteringly fast 39:00 minutes!]Tune into our Patreon for our weekly coverage of STRANGE NEW WORLDS season 3 starting this week, crew! www.patreon.com/startrektnc

    DS9 “The Siege” S2E3

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2023 115:41


    Andy is excited that Dax is finally employing the main reason it'd be cool to be a Trill, Steven Webber kills it as a slimy Bjoran (doing double-duty on WINGS?), and Matt shares a dumb opinion on French Onion Soup. [Episode discussion starts 55:00ish. If you're the type of crewman that wants to follow our next day coverage of STRANGE NEW WORLDS, season 3, check us out in the Patreon this month! www.patreon.com/startrektnc ]

    DS9 "The Circle" S2E2

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2023 113:30


    It's Part 2 (?) of this three-parter, and the boys are in fine mistake form here on "the best Star Trek podcast." Matt rebounds from his boredom in part 1 and is back on board, while Andy asks if Kira just had sex with that glowing orb. [Episode discussion starts roughly 56:00 in - a blistering pace!]

    DS9 “The Homecoming” s2e1

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2023 144:14


    LET'S GET READY TO SERIALLLIZZZZZE! Or at least start to as Matt and Andy discuss Frank Langella's refusal to take credit, whether Cardassians and Bjorans are into each other in general, and the fastest and most uneventful prisoner breakout in Trek history.Also, SOMEWHERE IN TIME (starring Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour) spoiler at 1:06ish. Yes, SOMEWHERE IN TIME. [Episode discussion begins around 1:09]

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