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Perhaps one of our favorite topics when we are discussing anything UFO or UAP related is the Black Triangle UFO's or TR3B UFO's. Filmmaker Darcy Weir dives into the history and speculations with these certain UFO's with his new documentary "Secret Space UFO's: The Rise of the TR3B's". Joining him is 50 plus year researcher James C. Goodall. James has extensive knowledge in "Spooky Airplane's", Spy plane history and even strange launches and flights at Area 51 as well as other bases. What exactly are these TR3B's? Did we reverse engineer these to be the ultimate flying war aircraft? Who knows when and where these came from and what else is hiding behind the curtain as far as advanced technology? Tons of questions and both Darcy & Jim bring a wealth of information to the table. Fantastic discussion to be had by all!  Open the Gates...   *Patreon's get an additional 16 minutes of uncensored kick ass goodness!  Sooooo become a Patreon HERE.  Have a story or topic for us to dig into?  Write us at Strangeuncles@gmail.com or call us on our hotline at (801) 252-6945.     *You can find Darcy at www.occultjourneys.com. You can find all 28 books written byt James C. Goodall on Amazon, one of his best being "75 Years of the Lockheed Martin Skunk Works"   Close the Gates....  

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Infinity (Re)Watch: A podcast where 2 big Marvel nerds rewatched the first 23 movies of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and now rewatch non-MCU Marvel movies. Time to get FANTASTIC in 2022 but is the first outing of Marvel's first family all it's cracked up to be? Take a ride in the Fantasti-Car with the guys!  Check out Infinity (Re)Watch on Instagram and Twitter at @IRWpodcast. Music by @nickyflowers on Instagram. Infinity (Re)Watch logo by Christopher Wurpts

After teasing Ellie and Danny about their fantastic friend, Dragon comes out of the forest to meet Dizzy and Ronald.

Today we have a packed show with MCU talk in 'Moonknight', DCEU talk in 'Peacemaker' and our movie review of the week, 'Tick, Tick... Boom!'

Visit our sponsor Peloton at http://onepeloton.comOn today's episode:- Daniel Radcliffe To Play Weird Al- Microsoft Buys Blizzard- Why There Are More Movie Leaks Than Ever Before- Moon Knight Trailer Reactions- Report Claims John Krasinski Is Reed Richards In Doctor Strange 2Leave a question when you tip at https://streamelements.com/movieblogtv/tip and it will be answered on the show, or the next show we do. (Remember, you are submitting a TIP to support the channel. You are not "buying" a question to be on the show. We're happy to answer the questions or comments you submit with your tips, but we reserve the right to not air any question or comment if we consider it inappropriate, unconstructive or disruptive to the flow of the show).Support John on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/johncampea

Single-payer advocates in California scored a big win last week when a proposed law passed through the Assembly Health Committee on an 11-3 vote. Now AB1400, introduced by Assemblymember Ash Kalra (D-27), will go to the lower chamber's Appropriations Committee this Thursday. If it passes, the bill will make its way to the Assembly floor for a vote. Fantastic news, right? It would be, if Governor Gavin Newsom hadn't started to show signs of buckling under the pressure from his millionaire friends in the insurance industry. While Newsom ran his 2018 governor's race on a single-payer platform, he suddenly has flip-flopped on the bill, claiming to reporters that he hasn't read it or the accompanying ACA11, which would lay out the funding for single-payer in California. All of this is happening in the backdrop of the state's private health care system's massive systemic failure to the latest surge in COVID-19. Emergency rooms throughout California are already reaching crisis-level capacity. Here in Sacramento County, positive results are coming back for an incredible 43% of tests. If Californians learn nothing else from two years of systemic failure in the for-profit medical system, it's that a single-payer future is the best bet for our collective health. Thanks for listening, defund the police and, as always: Twitter: @youknowkempa, @ShanNDSTevens, @Flojaune, @guillotine4you Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voicesrivercity   Sacramentans can hear us on 103.1 KUTZ Tuesdays at 5 pm and again Wednesdays at 8 am. If you require a transcript of our episodes, please reach out to info@voicesrivercity.com and we'll make it happen. And thank you to Be Brave Bold Robot for the tunes.

Marvelvision has become DistinguishedCompetitionvision this week as we pivot to covering Peacemaker, the new DCEU show on HBOMax. A sequel to The Suicide Squad, Marvel refugee James Gunn has created the show and written and directed the first three episodes. Before we get there we have some news, as well as a lengthy argument about whether or not John Krasinski - long rumored to play Mr. Fantastic in the upcoming Fantastic Four movie - is a conservative or not, and whether or not A Quiet Place is a conservative movie. Skip to 26:00 if you don't care about any of that stuff.  You can jump right to us loving Peacemaker, talking about whether or not it's problematic and trying to figure out what, if any, Easter Eggs are in the show. Big change-up this week: since Derek is the DC Guy in the family, he's the Recap Guy for Peacemaker! Take a listen and tell us what you think: should Derek keep being the Recap guy for the next five weeks of this show, or should it go back to the way it was?See you again next week for episode four of Peacemaker. Coming soon: the next episode of Watch Men, our monthly superhero deep dive podcast, where we'll be talking Dick Tracy by popular demand. And also in a couple of days: a new episode of The Bad Batch, covering the latest The Book of Boba Fett. If you like listening to two middle aged dipshits talk nerd stuff, this is your Golden Age. 

Andy has very much been a figurehead in the automotive world and has led transformational change at two of the world's most recognisable businesses in the industry. Andy was credited with pioneering ground-breaking technologies, including leading the development of the Nissan LEAF electric car which went on to be a groundbreaking EV. Back in 2012, AutoExpress voted him as the “Most Influential British Person in the Global Automotive Business”  Andy was also made an Ambassador for the COP26 Business Climate Leaders campaign and in 2014 he was appointed Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George in the New Year Honours for services to the British automotive industry. There are four reasons to go to  www.fullycharged.show.  Fully Charged Live tickets, local and International event tickets are available there. If you are looking for wonderful suppliers and firms that pass the strict Fully Charged guidelines for sustainability and technology, check them out on our fabulous A-Z guide. Merchandise - We have a brand new selection of sustainable merch on there to. And don't worry all sales profits go straight back into making the show better. Lastly, Patreon - a huge thank you to all our Patreon supporters, without your help we simply wouldn't be able to keep you informed with all our content we make. So if you would like to support us, Patreon might be a good fit. But as always no pressure to do so.    So if you have been, thank you for listening.  

UFC Vegas 46 brought the UFC back after a monthlong drought. In that fight, Giga Chikadze was dominated by Calvin Kattar and now we gotta chat about it! What a fight for Calvin Kattar after being bombarded by Max Holloway a year ago. After UFC Vegas 46, where does Calvin Kattar go from here? In 2022, I am working on doing more promotions. So today, I'm talking the KSW 66 event. Marian Ziolkowski and Borys Mankowski went to war and it as a fantastic fight. Marian Ziolkowski showed great poise and overcame a takedown to get the win and now he looks forward to what's next post KSW 66. Fantastic fight that you don't want to miss. If you enjoy the video, subscribe and like the video! We cover fights every week and have interviews with fighters from many different combat sports. If you'd like to support the channel and podcast and get in on the exclusive Patreon content, get at me on there. Patreon.com/fightlibrary Don't forget to check out the website: fight-library.com Follow me on Twitter: @BlaineHenryTFL --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/fightlibrary/support

This show looks at Bullying and the new book Fantastic Florence, It's Not Your Fault: A Story about Bullying by Lesley Millard Zafran.  This is a story about bullying. Actually, it's a look at a series of children's books that not only talk about bullying but address the traumatic experiences some children face.  When I […] The post Bullying and Fantastic Florence appeared first on WebTalkRadio.net.

Hey Witches! Back for another FANTASTIC episode. Your girl is feeling stressed this week, and you know what made that stress worse? MGK and Megan Fox getting engaged. JK JK. But what really made it worse is Jamie Lynn Spears. We dive into the Jamie interview and it's not good. Trigger Warning: Rage might ensue. We also go over the interview done with Mary Cosby's cousin. Homegirl runs a cult and I've been saying it for years. For shows we go over 90 Day Before the 90 Days, RHOSLC and Hype House. Imagine being a millionaire for posting videos with Bang energy drink. It's very depressing. But luckily for us Mercury is in retrograde! But at least after this episode we will know what to expect, right? Thank you for joining this pop culture coven! Please rate, review and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and leave 5 stars on Spotify!Social:Instagram: Realitywitch_TikTok: Jessie_NailsTwitter: Jessie__Nailsrealitywitchpod@gmail.comrealitywitch.comTime Stamps:IntroNews- MGK engaged 11:55- Jamie Lynn Spears Interview 17:30- Kanye and Julia Fox 35:19- Mary Cosby's cousin interview 40:50Shows- 90 Day Before the 90 Days 52:53- RHOSLC 55:53- Hype House 1:01:32Witchy Shit 1:07:15WOW 1:13:40- Megan Fox

Dave Evans is joining Guy Kawasaki on this week's Remarkable People podcast! Dave is the author of Designing Your Life and Designing Your Work Life as well as one of Stanford University's most popular courses. In Designing Your Work Life, Bill Burnett and Dave Evans show us how design thinking can transform our present job and our experience of work by utilizing the designer mindsets: Curiosity. Reframing. Radical collaboration. Awareness. Bias to action. And, the new mindset, Storytelling, helps engage others in helping you find the best job for you. Fantastic episode ahead!

If you're reading this then you may be an avid podcast listener, but have you ever used podcasts in your classroom? They are such a fun way to connect the real world to what you're doing in your classroom. I'm sharing five fantastic podcasts that you can use with your kids and simple low-prep activities to use with them. You may be surprised at how easily podcasts can be incorporated into any subject area and any time of the day.  Show Notes: https://www.drlorifriesen.com/blog/podcasts-for-the-classroom Grab Your FREE Podcast Listening Worksheets: https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Podcast-Listening-Worksheets-FREE-Listening-Comprehension-7613393 Join our Beginning Teacher Talk Private FB Group now: https://www.facebook.com/groups/BeginningTeacherTalkGroup/ Check out Lori's TpT store (Beginning Teacher Talk): https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Store/Beginning-Teacher-Talk Connect with Lori on Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/drlorifriesen/ Connect with Lori on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beginningteachertalk If the Beginning Teacher Talk podcast is helping you in your teaching and if you're feeling extra loving, I would be so grateful if you would leave a positive review for the show! Your kind words mean the world to me. Just click here to leave your review now (and be entered into our draw for a $25 Amazon Gift Card)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beginning-teacher-talk/id1456137677 I hope you have a wonderful week, and remember - just because you are a beginning elementary teacher, there is no need for you to struggle like one. Xo Lori P.S. Do you have your copy of my FREE Ultimate Classroom Management Checklist? Get yours by clicking here now! https://www.drlorifriesen.com/ultimate-classroom-management-checklist

Hey kids, we had some technical difficulties so this episode is a bit delayed, but FEAR NOT! We have a Fantastic episode for our last podcast of 2021. The full Mister Sister crew is here to wrap-up QueerAnon's very first year! We're looking back at some of the major events that happened this year in a Queer For It wrap-up with our all-star panel. Then, we're discussing the Prom episode of Canada's Drag Race and using that as a deep dive into heteronormative rituals and whether or not we should keep em or toss em. Then, we're ending with our New Queer's Resolutions!! So long, 2021. You sucked!

Ever drink so much that you decided to take a trip to Gary, Indiana? Neither did we.Flex and Greg are joined by special guest, and Indiana native, Zack Miller. We talk about Zack's time in the craft beer industry, the weird alcohol laws in Indiana, the best IPAs in America, and PBR's tweeting fiasco.Greg kicks off the beer research with Fantastic, an IPA from Societe Brewing & Beachwood Brewing. Zack is sipping on Blackberry Double Marbles, a milkshake IPA from More Brewing Company in Huntley, IL.Zack got in touch with us after we spent a few minutes talking about how much we don't appreciate Indiana back on Batch 285. Not only is he an Indiana native, but he also works for a craft beer distributor and knows his way around the craft scene. He sets Flex straight on the good parts of IN and fills us in on some super weird alcohol laws.The homie Chew Your Beer calls and drops a fresh voicemail on us. We found out the best-rated American IPAs in 2021; did it make Flex angry?The sale of Bell's Brewing is official; welcome to the dark side. Pabst Blue Ribbon drops some very lively tweets comparing Dry January to licking certain body parts. Kings & Convicts have acquired the old Sant Archer taproom. It turns out that SweetWater and Tilray didn't have to pay all that much for Green Flash and Alpine Beer. And Troy Aikman is dropping his own lager with a super creative name.Zack:www.instagram.com/og_beer_dude Flexy: www.instagram.com/flex_me_a_beer Craft Beer Republic: www.CraftBeerRepublic.com www.instagram.com/CraftBeerRepublic www.facebook.com/CraftBeerRepublicPod www.twitter.com/CraftBeerRepub (805) 538-2337 Use promo code UNFILTERED on Tavour.

This week Mary Cosby is a reunion no show, Raquel explains the moment she broke up with James, thoughts on And Just Like That and Real Housewives of Miami and more!Find me on Patreon, social media and more here! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome to Season 2, book besties! It's not dramatic at all to say we have waited FOREVER for this day! We are *finally* discussing House of Earth and Blood by Sarah J. Maas, the first book in her Crescent City series. This episode will cover the first two parts of the book, with no spoilers for the third and fourth parts. We've got: Fantastic world building? ✅ Incredible characters who are flawed, vulnerable & realistic? ✅ Our most anticipated episode since starting our podcast?! ✅✅ Tune in to hear all our thoughts on our favorite book of 2021 ⚠️ SPOILER warning for Crescent City : House of Earth and Blood - PART 1 / PART 2 Thanks for listening! Cheers & happy reading

Kelli Christina is an International Best-selling author, public speaker, CEO, and business coach. She has worked part-time on government projects for ten years and loves "making a difference" in today's world. Kelli Christina attributes her success to her hard work, education, and determination. With 20 years of specialized medical recruiting experience and 10 years in business management, she is currently the CEO, owner, and director of recruiting for KD-Staffing. Ms Christina created KD-Staffing on the idea that “recruiting is an art.” She has perfected her skills in this “art” through several managerial and leadership positions since the start of her career; she became a restaurant manager and a boss at nineteen years old. Before she started a career in recruiting, Ms Christina obtained a bachelor's degree in business, hotel, and restaurant management from the University of North Texas. With 30 years of career experience, her advice to younger generations of women entering the workforce is to remember the importance of education. She also advises them to be strong-willed and to never give up.                 3 top tips for my audience: 1. Gratitude and a positive attitude  2. Doing The Right Things in life - Service Work, taking care of other people, treating others well, setting people up for success 3. Focus on the spiritual life - Fear can be a lesson, the material world is less important, live a peaceful life   Author Page:  www.kellidenneheychristina.com  LinkedIn: Kelli Dennehey Christina  Youtube: Kelli Dennehey Christina - YouTube Instagram: Kelli Dennehey Christina (@christina.kelli) • Instagram photos and videos Kelli Dennehey Christina (@kelli.christina) • Instagram photos and videos  Facebook: (1)    Kelli Dennehey Christina | Facebook  (2)    (1) Kelli Dennehey Christina | Facebook  (3)    (1) Recruitment Is an Art | Facebook  (4)    (1) KD-Staffing | Facebook  (5)    (1) KD Staffing | Facebook  Twitter: Kelli A. Christina (@Kelli5884)  And check out www.mystepstosobriety.com for books, courses and other projects to get involved in!  #alanon #alcohol  #sobriety #success #AA #alcoholic

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Cascara is a fantastic Pacific Northwest native tree. Adaptable, great for wildlife, and not too big this is a great native tree to add to your property.In this episode, we dive into cascaras and how to grow them on your property. Plus we will look at some of the uses of these great trees.Check out the show notes to learn more about Cascara trees and get access to the resources mentioned in this episode. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/growingwithnature)

Kenny and Todd compare notes and experiences over their 40 plus years as jazz musicians.

New year, new comics! Join us as we run through the latest and greatest comics hitting shelves this week including ELEKTRA: BLACK, WHITE & BLOOD #1, WASTELANDERS: DOOM #1, and INFERNO #4! Plus, on a very special reading club, author of Eleanor & Park and Runaways, Rainbow Rowell joins us to talk about FF and her upcoming She-Hulk series!As always, shout out your local comic shop or send us your questions or comments by emailing us at pulllist@marvel.com or tweet using #MarvelsPullList. Make sure to mark it "Okay to read!"Follow us at: @AgentM, @tuckermarkus, @jasmiestWhat we're reading with Rainbow RowellFF #1-6 (really all of it!)NEW WEEKLY COMICS 1/5AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #84BLACK WIDOW #13CAPTAIN AMERICA/IRON MAN #2CAPTAIN MARVEL #35THE DARKHOLD OMEGA #1ELEKTRA: BLACK, WHITE & BLOOD #1INFERNO #4THE MARVELS #7SHANG-CHI #7STAR WARS: DOCTOR APHRA #17THOR #20WARHAMMER 40,000: SISTERS OF BATTLE #5WASTELANDERS: DOOM  #1X-MEN  #6                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        NEW WEEKLY INFINITY COMICSX-MEN UNLIMITED INFINITY COMIC #16 (1/3/2022)SPINE-TINGLING SPIDER-MAN INFINITY COMIC #6 (1/4/2022)2022 INFINITE POSSIBILITIES INFINITY COMIC (1/5/2022)SPIDER-BOT INFINITY COMIC #5 (1/7/2022)

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Fantastic floundering, incredible icebergs, a creepy cafeteria guy, and so much more! Enjoy this episode of Trip Of The Iceberg! Give us a one word suggestion at Twitter https://twitter.com/trustimprov Check us out on youtube  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOwkb3KBOFqhZn8EVO1jXdA

Happy New Year y'all. Dreyah is mad about being wished Merry Christmas AND Happy Birthday. Can a deadbeat dad take credit for his son accomplishments? Do you take gifts back after a relationship ends? Breeze talks about relationships. What happens to pornstars when they retire? Can your girl ask another guy for money? What about if it's her male “best friend”? Is having structure a bad thing? Follow the show on Instagram: @nobusterspod Follow the hosts on Instagram: @osg_breeze @termil_mfc @dreyah_bangz Make sure you subscribe, rate, and review on all streaming platforms. Don't be a buster.

Happy New Year! RJ Ochoa and Pete Sweeney recap all of the Week 17 NFL action on the first Monday Football Monday episode of 2022. They discuss the Titans who are in prime position to go to the Super Bowl, Cooper Kupp who has had one of the most impressive seasons and faith in Josh Allen.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A very shorthanded Purdue team went to Nashville and took down Tennessee in a wild 48-45 overtime thriller. The win put Purdue at nine wins for the first time since 2003 and leaves fans fired up for what's to come in 2022. Host Jordan Jones recaps the wild finale before putting a wrap on what was an excellent season for Jeff Brohm's squad and looks ahead to why Purdue fans should be optimistic about continuing this in 2022. It's a one-stop listen to wrap up the year, so check it out today! If you enjoyed this week's episode, give us a five star review and tell a friend! Give the show a follow on Twitter @BoilersBeyond and send me your feedback on this week's episode. Let me know your thoughts! You can also email the show at boilersandbeyondpod@gmail.com. New episodes are released weekly, so be sure to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts!

I'm strong believer of being involved in local government. Sure State and National government get all the heads lines but only local with a few people can make changes that effect your life immediately. My guest is a La Habra city councilman James Gomez, with over 20 years of local government under his belt I knew he would be a Fantastic resource…The power of local government. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/matt-brown57/support

Chiropractor Dr Ian Hoffman wants to help you start a non profit and wipe out your student loans.  He is an amazing man with an amazing story. His desire to help a 4 year old cancer patient and his need to solve his crushing million dollar debt load lead to his inspired business.  The Student Loan Eraser program.    The Impact: In the 6 years that he has been teaching The Student Loan Eraser Program his clients will have started over 400 charities that are taking care of over 10,000 nonprofit visits a month!  AND those doctors are going to save over $100 million from their student loans.Ian tells us how he built his business with webinars and how creating a non profit to serve their community can save a doctor tens of thousands of dollars off their student loans.There's “Google Slaps”.  The power of the email list.  The Avatar Process and the perfect customer.  Sorting out the who and not the how.And of course, the proven formula to saving hundreds of millions in dollars of student loan debts for his customers.Administrative: (See episode transcript below)Check out Dr Ian Hoffman's Student Loan Eraser Program hear!  https://www.erasemystudentloans.com/WATCH the Table Rush Talk Show interviews here: www.TableRushTalkShow.comCheck out the Tools For A Good Life Summit here: Virtually and FOR FREE https://bit.ly/ToolsForAGoodLifeSummitStart podcasting!  These are the best mobile mic's for IOS and Android phones.  You can literally take them anywhere on the fly.Get the Shure MV88 mobile mic for IOS,  https://amzn.to/3z2NrIJGet the Shure MV88+ for  mobile mic for Android  https://amzn.to/3ly8SNjSee more resources at https://belove.media/resourcesEmail me: contact@belove.mediaFor social Media:      https://www.instagram.com/mrmischaz/https://www.facebook.com/MischaZvegintzovSubscribe and share to help spread the love for a better world!As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.Transcript:Mischa Zvegintzov  00:10Welcome everybody to the table rush master class where we get back to the marketing and sales basics to help you the listener, the viewer to grow your business to $1 million and beyond. And I am very, very blessed today to introduce everybody to Dr. Ian Hoffman. Welcome Dr. Dr. Hoffman.Ian Hoffman  00:35Thanks, Mischa glad to be here.Mischa Zvegintzov  00:36Yeah, fantastic. So we chatted very briefly, maybe a week or two ago, when we were setting this up. And, and it's a big gift from for me to have you on here. Because whether you know it or not, you are a massive inspiration for me. And actually, ultimately, the creation of this show, because via mutual friends, you know, I started getting introduced to funnels, webinars, all this stuff. And, and, and this mutual friend was like, oh, yeah, you know, my buddy, effectively, Ian you know, has just doing amazing stuff. And I was just captivated. Right? I was like, "Oh, my God".  This is a two to three years ago. So to have you on. Super awesome. So thank you for joining.Ian Hoffman  01:27It's my pleasure. I'm so happy to hear that.Mischa Zvegintzov  01:29Yeah. So real quick. You have a you have a, a program, and it's called the Student Loan Eraser. Correct? Yeah. Fantastic. And so go ahead. Tell me quickly. Tell me about that. And then let's, let's talk about how you how you came to that and were able to bring it to market?Mischa Zvegintzov  01:54Sure. It's definitely a passion project of mine. You know, how it's a there are, I just feel like it was it was what I was put on this planet to do right now, which isn't an amazing feeling. So I'm actually a chiropractor to get into backstory. Yeah, dad's a chiropractor. Both of his brothers are chiropractors, I was born into that also. And I love being a chiropractor. And so what happened was, I was man, like three years into practice. My son was just born, I just came back to the office after taking a couple weeks off. And this, this pregnant mom came in as a new patient.Ian Hoffman  02:37And she brought her four year old daughter to the appointment. And this little girl had stage four cancer. That's the first thing that this mom said to me is my, my little girl. I lost it. I couldn't. I couldn't imagine no parent should have to go through that no child should have to go through that. So to make a long story short, that little girl really inspired me to actually start a nonprofit organization, a charity to expand access to chiropractic and holistic health care for underserved in my community.Ian Hoffman  03:09And as I was going through that process, it was right around the same time that I was really doing some research online about my student loans because I have a lot of debt. I remember having this. I hope I can say this this "Oh, shit moment."Ian Hoffman  03:28Because I remember I had I had just bought a house and between my wife myself, and our student loans, our cars, our mortgage, we had over a million dollars in debt. And that's a heavy weight? That's a heavy weight on somebody's shoulders. Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov  03:44So how old were you at the time? Oh, man,Mischa Zvegintzov  03:47I'm 29, 30 years old. 30, 31. Something around there? Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov  03:55And a young child. That's, that's heavy.Ian Hoffman  03:58Yeah, it was heavy.Ian Hoffman  03:59So when I started reading about this federal program called public service, loan forgiveness... I... I... My heart kind of skipped a beat. I had first read about it before I had even had this idea to start a nonprofit. And so there's only three requirements. But one of the major requirements is that you have to have qualifying employment, you have to work for the government or a nonprofit, to be eligible. And then once I had started my own nonprofit, I had this kind of Eureka moment that I might have reverse engineered my own eligibility. And that's exactly what happened. So, you know, fast forward a couple years from there, I wound up starting the student loan eraser, I put together this whole team, and we help doctors start charities with a dual purpose, which is to make the world a better place and get their student loans erased.Mischa Zvegintzov  04:52That's amazing.Ian Hoffman  04:54Thank you.Mischa Zvegintzov  04:54Oh, my gosh.Ian Hoffman  04:56Yeah, it's been quite a process. The transition wasn't easy. I was in practice full time, coming home, you know, having dinner with my family, they would go to bed, I'd be up till sometimes two, three in the morning.  Writing the webinars writing the emails, just getting the infrastructure together reading.com secrets.  Just feeding my, my, my my mind and getting educated on how to launch an online program because it's something I'd never done before.Mischa Zvegintzov  05:22So So you have the Epiphany, you're like, oh, my gosh, I can I am, you're in the middle of creating this nonprofit, you, you. You, you find out.Mischa Zvegintzov  05:34Here's a way for me to erase my debt, which if you don't mind me asking, What was that number for you? What was the chunk of that of your total debt?Ian Hoffman  05:42I borrowed around 150,000. And it was only going up because most doctors are on an income driven repayment plan, where their monthly payment is actually less than the than the debt, or I'm sorry, less than the interest. And so what happens is that on these income driven plans, they'll pay for 25 years. And at that point, anything that's left is forgiven, but the forgiven debt gets taxed as income. And so once once I heard that I'm like, Man, "this is a this is a black hole".  Because I'm gonna just pay for, you know, till I'm 5560 years old. And at that point, I would still have a six figure tax bill.Mischa Zvegintzov  06:27And you're at the 40%, maybe the your, your, whatever, the gradient tax bracket is 40%. SoIan Hoffman  06:35Oh, yeah, that's in California. So between federal and state taxes, it probably would have been closer to 50%.Mischa Zvegintzov  06:41Man.Ian Hoffman  06:42Yeah, crazy.Mischa Zvegintzov  06:43So we're talking about a real number here, perhaps 75,000 Plus, or since it's actually your debts incrementally growing, because you're paying less than the than the amount? You know, you've got 200, or whatever that number is?Ian Hoffman  06:58Yeah. So I tell most people to think about it, like their mortgage, over 30 years, whatever your purchase price is for, you know, on average, right? Interest rate plays a role, but most people are going to pay double, whatever their purchase price was over 30 years.Mischa Zvegintzov  07:13Yeah.Ian Hoffman  07:13And so that's the way I was thinking about my student loans is, if I borrowed 150,000, over 25 years, you know, it wouldn't quite double because I was making payments, but all of the monthly payment was going to interest only I wasn't, I wasn't actually taken care of any of the principal.Mischa Zvegintzov  07:31Yeah. So you have the reverse engineer moment. And, and your in the fire, right of this million dollar debt load, I've been there and it's heavy, right? That's a heavy load. When you're trying to build a business. You're, you've got a son, a son, right? That's that. Yeah. And so trying to balance, like, time with family with the, I get it. It's heavy. I've been there. But tell me about the moment of that. You go, oh, my gosh, a reverse enginer? Did you was it like an overnight epiphany? I could help people with this... And then or was that a slow build?Ian Hoffman  08:14It was it was an overnight epiphany. And then the infrastructure was a slow build.Mischa Zvegintzov  08:18Okay. Ian Hoffman  08:18Russell Brunson says it's, "it's the who not the how." So I needed to find the right people. You know, to put together the team. I needed to write the webinar.  I needed to really feel confident that at the end of the day I could deliver on the promise.  Because I know how much my student loans caused anxiety for me and sleepless nights.  And I didn't want to help anyone take that on; without really being certain that we could help them reach that goal, at the end of the day, of starting the nonprofit and then being able to qualify for you know, public service loan forgiveness. Yep. So it took quite some time.Ian Hoffman  08:19You know, it took me about a year and a half after starting my own nonprofit, to feel comfortable enough with the process to build the team because I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a CPA. I don't you know, I don't do those things. Yeah, so I need to...Mischa Zvegintzov  09:13Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov  09:14So the we throw... love Russell Brunson, right. I love his Dot com secrets, expert secrets, all that stuff. I'm in his his high end coaching group so thriving in there.  But what about finding that like what what what was the journey to alright, I can help people.  How did you stumble across Russell Brunson? Or was that just was that like someone said, Oh, you have this great idea try this guy? And you're like okay.  Or is that was that a? Was that a rocky transition.Ian Hoffman  09:46I think that's the genius of Russell Brunson and his marketing. He's really good about getting in front of the right people at the right time.Mischa Zvegintzov  09:52Yes. Ian Hoffman  09:52You know what I mean? I don't even know how I came across his material. I'm sure I was just searching online for you know how how to "how to launch" or "how to write a webinar", "how to do an online program". And I had come across other you know, other teachers actually before Russell Brunson. And it's really funny. One of the people that I wound up doing a little work with early on, even before Russell Brunson, is Bailey Richert.  And I wound up hearing her on a podcast and then reached out to her and I did her in for infopreneur Institute, I think is what it's called. Yes. That was fantastic. So I had other mentors along the way. But you know, and she was she was fantastic.Mischa Zvegintzov  10:08You do her Summit, and all that, or No?Ian Hoffman  10:47I didn't do her Summit. But she has a an online training. You know, that teaches you how to go from I think almost nothing, just concept idea to just step by step how to how to get your first online program launched.Mischa Zvegintzov  11:04Yes.  Okay.Ian Hoffman  11:06So I did that. And it was fantastic. It really helped me to clarify my vision and who was I serving and those kinds of details.  And then it turns out later she wound up working with Russell Brunson. So brand and so it's a really small world in the online marketing space.Mischa Zvegintzov  11:24Yeah, fantastic. So so your entry into Russell Brunson land was was Bailey Richert your you take her infopreneur whatever it's called Academy. And, and that's how the idea for the webinar starts to come to fruition and use and you start crafting it there, then you end up in Russell Brunson land is that the?Ian Hoffman  11:48The timeline is a little hazy. Because I was doing a lot of things all at the same time. I was trying to educate myself. So I read a book. Also written by a chiropractor, I'm blanking on his name, but it was it's called social media made me rich. And I read, you know, I was really just trying to I was listening to podcasts, reading books, I was really just trying to trying to get an education on this space. So and at the same time, I was even... I live in Carlsbad, California. And there's an amazing podcast called... Oh, man, I'm blanking on the name of it, too. Anyway, there's an amazing podcast on I think it's the "online marketing made simple" or "Made Easy podcast". But she she teaches webinars and her strategies. And so I've gone through multiple iterations of my current webinar. Ian Hoffman  12:56I did probably eight or ten live webinars. Recorded them all made little notes. Figured out what questions people were asking, tried to, you know, answer those questions in advance as I kept going. And then finally got to the one where we had a really great response as far as sales and people staying to the end of the webinar. And that one eventually went on evergreen.Mischa Zvegintzov  13:21Fantastic. And so is this what we would call a high ticket webinar. So you're trying when I look at your webinar, or your landing page? Yes, reserve my seat now. Great news. It what? I'll tell you exactly what it says plus get a free phone called conflict consultation at the end of the web class. So you're driving phone calls? Or is your... Do you have a do it yourself? Course? A all help you course, I'll do it all for you course?  What's your...Ian Hoffman  14:03I only have one...Ian Hoffman  14:04It's it's not a traditional funnel from the standpoint of like... I only have one offer, and that offer converts. And so really, it's $5,000 to $7,000. And at that, that price point, I think that most people...Ian Hoffman  14:21I've had a few people who clicked an ad, they watched the webinar, and they signed up without ever talking to me. And that's super cool. And I was excited about that.Ian Hoffman  14:32But the truth is I wanted to also be able to qualify my clients. And so I don't mind jumping on a 15 to 30 minute call with prospects to really get a feel for who they are, make sure their hearts in the right place with all of this. I'm sure that we would work well together. And to answer their questions, make sure that they know that there's a human behind this you know.  So My funnel now is different. It changes over time, right? But my funnel now basically is register for the web class, that is the most important first step, because I want people, frankly, to be pre educated before they jump on the call with me. I want them to be able to ask the right questions to at least have a basic understanding of the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program.  About their student loans. About ways that we can help before they get on the call, so that when I get on the call answer questions, then it's a simple conversation of, you know, what's going on? How can I help what questions you have? Let's address those and then sign up?Mischa Zvegintzov  15:40Yeah, yeah. Ian Hoffman  15:41Yep.  Answering all the questions that that you know, you know, the top questions or the top, in sales line, let's call it rebuttals. Right. Ian Hoffman  15:41It saves me a lot of time. Because before I was spending between 30 minutes to an hour with each prospect, you know, sometimes multiple phone calls going over the same material. And that's where a webinar is really helpful in in kind of pre educating. And doing the sales process for me.Ian Hoffman  16:10Right.Mischa Zvegintzov  16:11But let's talk about it from it's more from a service standpoint, though, you're like, hey, I have this vision. This helped me, I want to help you. Not only are is it helping you the doctor, because it's saving you money and clearing debt and relieving stress and all this stuff. At the same time, you get to have a passion project and help the world right? We get satisfaction of the world. Yeah.Ian Hoffman  16:34Yeah, for sure. Most most doctors that I talked to, are already doing some form of this.Ian Hoffman  16:40I think most people got into health care, because they want to help people. You know that that's been really beautiful for me to see, as I'm talking and consulting with doctors. And it doesn't matter what the degree is dentists, chiropractors, naturopathic doctors, you name it. Most of them are already providing some level of discount or free care for, for people in need. And, and so they're just not doing it through a nonprofit. So we formalize that. We formalize their way of giving back, and they're able to qualify for student loan forgiveness as as a result.Mischa Zvegintzov  17:16That's amazing. I love that. That's, it's amazing. I just think it's my favorite thing. My goal is to help people help people, right. I'm like, I'm like, and so to hear you talk about the win win win scenario. That's like the best in the world right now. And I think that's what's genius about Russell Brunson, too, right. He's like, Hey, man, entrepreneurs are the people that are gonna save the world, shall we say, or make it better? Right?Mischa Zvegintzov  17:44And, and to have that win win win situation that you have created, or the universe helped you create, however you want to say it? Is, is beautiful. And inspiring. So thank you. I have a quick question.  Your frustration? Well, I want to start with the who, what? Not the how, because that's such a powerful concept. Building the team, and you set it like it was easy. Oh, yeah. I just needed to build the team and make this happen. Yeah, well, no, maybe you're like, I'll do this myself. And quickly, you realize this is going to be a here a Herculean effort. I need help or tell me about that sort of process?Ian Hoffman  18:26Sure.Ian Hoffman  18:26Well, I mean, I, I think it's a matter of, of taking inventory and knowing yourself and your strengths and what you're good at and what you enjoy. And also, what do you not want to do? What do you not enjoy? What what lowers your energy. And so for me, I love writing. So writing the copy, writing the webinar, that...I enjoyed that process.  But I didn't want to take on even the the the responsibility of filing these tax forms with the IRS and filing the articles of incorporation. And that legal work is something I knew nothing about and didn't really, I wasn't motivated to learn. So it's also it's also that is finding out, you know, where are the gaps between where you are and where you want to be.  And then filling in those gaps, either by educating yourself and then doing it or if you find that you're not motivated, you need to find someone else who that's what they do. So, so I wound up originally working with the the firm that started my own nonprofit, I brought this to them and they said, great, and we brought that to really to, to the scale that they could handle. They were a smaller firm, and then I wound up finding a bigger firm to work with and, you know, wound up transitioning over.  But yeah, I mean, I think that's the process is just knowing yourself and what you love and trying to to do that.Mischa Zvegintzov  20:03Okay, did you formalize that? Or was that all sort of intuitive for you? And when I say that I mean, did you? Were you like, Did you literally sit down and write out? Okay, this is what I'm good at. This is what I need help with? Or was it? Yeah, go?Mischa Zvegintzov  20:19I didn't do that I really, I wrote out kind of the curriculum and the steps of "what's the client's journey?" Right.Mischa Zvegintzov  20:30So once I, once I really went through the process of, okay, here's my modules, here's my, my, my system, my formula for the big promise of start a nonprofit and qualify for student loan forgiveness. What are the steps that people need to go through along that journey to really get that end end result that I'm trying to promise people? And then I was able to really clearly see what part of those steps can I teach? What can I help people with? What can we do for them? And then what do I need help with? You know, where can I fill in the gaps with other services?Mischa Zvegintzov  21:09Hmm, beautiful. Thank you. That's it. Thank you for that. Question in regards to Avatar. You mentioned that and everybody watching and listening avatar is "speak" for "your perfect customer".  The "the exact person you want to work with". I know for a lot of us, for me, that's an elusive concept, or can be shifting or, or the conversations I keep having are make it super narrow. And so I'll go super narrow, and then the people that are telling me to go narrow, inevitably say that's too narrow, or I get so tell me about your avatar process.Mischa Zvegintzov  21:47Totally. I'm a big believer in you know, for me personally, it was it was a little easier, I think, than some because I am my avatar.  You know, I was a doctor with six figures of student debt. And you know there are doctors with multiple, many multiple six figures of student loan debt. And so my avatar was was really anyone who... they I've worked with people that are not doctors, but really my avatar is anyone with over six figures of student loan debt who has a has a service based business.Ian Hoffman  22:28So, that's, that's the most general avatar. But the people who have the most student loan debt naturally are doctors and lawyers.  You know, people who went to grad school. So that's, that's where it went.Mischa Zvegintzov  22:28Okay.Ian Hoffman  22:28But the reason it's so important to have an avatar is because, um, you know, along this process of building a funnel, building a business, one of the most important aspects of that is where am I going to get traffic? How am I going to put my ads in front of the right people? And so for me, I know I can get my ads in front of chiropractors, naturopathic doctors, dentists, physical therapists, osteopathic doctors.  You know, those are my vertical markets. And in unless you have that avatar specifically drawn out, it's really hard to target.Mischa Zvegintzov  22:28Hmm.Mischa Zvegintzov  23:20And then then the ad process just is too inefficient. It did you can't you? Is that a good way to say it?Mischa Zvegintzov  23:29Yeah, absolutely. I mean, who wants to pay for ads that go to the wrong person that's not even interested? Or a qualified lead?Mischa Zvegintzov  23:37Yeah. Yeah. How was that? How was the do you do the ads? Or did you bring in? Did you bring in a who to do that for you?Ian Hoffman  23:46I've done both what I what I tend to do in my journey, my learning process is I want to learn as much as I can and try it myself first, and then hire an expert, so that I know what questions to ask. I know, I can get to a certain point, they better beat me. You know, they're going to get better results than I did if they're doing this as a professional. So you know, that's just how I am. Yeah. So that's how I started. I did really well, early on in Facebook ads. But then it became complicated because Facebook changed their marketing policy really related to student loan type advertising. And yeah, I mean, that people talk all the time about Facebook slaps and Google Slaps,Mischa Zvegintzov  24:30Google slaps. Yeah. You had one!  Tell me about it...Ian Hoffman  24:34So yeah, it happened. And so then, you know, again, it's the who not the how I didn't want to become a Facebook ads specialist on top of everything else I was doing. So then you find the right team who can get you back where you want to be.Mischa Zvegintzov  24:46And so was that a? Was that an overnight crack on the side of the head like your business effectively shut down?Ian Hoffman  24:54I wouldn't say it shut down.Ian Hoffman  24:55So that that is actually the power of having an email list. right? So that's where I'm really glad that I was collecting emails for people who joined my webinar, because there were a lot of people on my email list who didn't bought who hadn't bought. And so what I was able to do once traffic shut down, you know, as I was working on getting that back up with ads... I had an email list of about 4000 Doctors by that point. So I really started emailing my list more frequently.  And getting them back engaged and, you know, sending them more information.  And really just being more active with that. And that was able to drive sales for a considerable amount of time, as you know, rebuilding the apps.Mischa Zvegintzov  25:44That's fantastic. So let's dive into this email list a little bit. Are... You have a nurture campaign, which means do you email consistently? Or is it? So there's that question? And do you outsource that process that process or tell me about your nurturing of your list?Ian Hoffman  26:07Yeah, I don't outsource that... I do... I enjoy writing. That's one of the things that I enjoy. So for me, and I think those emails are so... those are really important. And I want people to get that kind of information directly from the source.  Directly from me. So I don't I don't hire out for that. And I also...Ian Hoffman  26:35I can probably be better about this. But when there's news when there's, you know, especially in 2021, there's been a lot of news, political news related to student loans.Ian Hoffman  26:53President Biden has already raised billions of dollars of student loan debt that President Trump never did for people who have, you know, for example, who were defrauded by their schools. And their schools shut down... they didn't get the you know, their degree. Or for people who have a total and permanent disability, now they can get student loan forgiveness. And so I follow these these things in the in the world of student loans. And I send, you know, information as it comes up to my list.Ian Hoffman  27:17One of the most recent developments in the world of public service loan forgiveness is that... before there were there was a very low acceptance rate into the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program. Hovering around 2%, actually, which is terrible. And that's because yeah, there are three requirements to qualify. There's actually four different types of federal student loans. Only one type qualifies for this program. There, there are like nine different repayment plan options. Five of those are income driven repayment, those are the ones that qualify.  And then you had to have qualifying employment with the government or nonprofit.   Ian Hoffman  27:57And the student loan industry is so complex. I personally believe it's designed to confuse so that people overpay. I mean, that's just that's just what it is. Right?Mischa Zvegintzov  28:08Yes.Ian Hoffman  28:08So unfortunately, unless people have done the homework and the research, like I did to say, most people don't even know what type of student loans they have, let's start there. So 15% of PSLF denials were because people just didn't have the right type of student loans. And they weren't being told that there's a free process that can turn any of the other types of federal student loans into the type that qualifies.Ian Hoffman  28:32So that's the first step with my program, I look at what type of loans they have, what repayment plan they're in, and we make sure that they meet those first two requirements. But because the program was so messed up... recently, there, I think it was President Biden or the administration said, "we're gonna we're gonna, you know, wipe away those first two requirements".Ian Hoffman  28:54So now any type of student loans and on any repayment plan, as long as you're a government and nonprofit employee, you can qualify for Public Service Loan Forgiveness right now. So they actually made it easier than ever before, to to enroll in this this program.Mischa Zvegintzov  29:11Wow. That's amazing. So you're disseminating information like that to your list and useful information. And obviously, strangely, it's either a blessing or a curse. You're fascinated by the by the, by the student loan process.Ian Hoffman  29:29Yeah. That was originally fascinated by it. But you know, I think originally when I, when I went to try to get my first mortgage, I was told that my income was good, but my debt to income ratio was all messed up because of the student loans.Mischa Zvegintzov  29:45Yeah.Ian Hoffman  29:45So I really got inspired to understand my student loans so that they didn't hold me back in life. You know what I mean? And then and then meeting that little girl with stage for cancer and everything else that came after it really was You know, the universe or something aligned? Yeah. To help this this product, this service come to fruition?Mischa Zvegintzov  30:08Yeah, I don't mean to go political, but I'm going to it almost seems to me, and I've had this thought that that a lot of these schools were, literally were created as a vehicle to create student loan debt. Right. Like, almost people with lots of money, we're like, we want to, we want to, you know, collateralize debt or securitized debt obligations, or whatever, you know, the bond market, right. And so they're like, alright, we got we want student loans, we can, the government will subsidize it. Right? So they got you got venture capitalists with billions of dollars that want to create CDOs, or collateralized debt obligations? There we go. And so they're like, how can we do this? This is just a theory. I don't mean to you, maybe you could speak to that for a second. You know, it's like,Ian Hoffman  31:11Yeah,Mischa Zvegintzov  31:12Yeah it's like... go ahead...Ian Hoffman  31:14I mean, I have heard a few different, you know, theories as far as the student debt crisis in America and how it came to happen. And, you know... I think that what we do know, is that part of the issue is that tuision, has just gone up and up and up and up far faster than the cost than the then the salaries that the degrees people are being trained in provide. And so...Ian Hoffman  31:50But the reason that they're doing that is because the schools know what someone can borrow. So if someone can borrow $10,000 a quarter, you know...They're gonna make their tuition, you know, whatever the the the very minimum that somebody can can have for, you know, room and board.Mischa Zvegintzov  32:10Yes. Ian Hoffman  32:11That, you know, plus tuition is $10,000. So, you know, that's, I think that's more of the issue is that it's not, it's not commensurate with what, what someone can expect to earn from that degree. It's not...Ian Hoffman  32:30There's a lot of unethical practices, I would say, but most importantly, is just that people aren't being educated on the responsibilities that they're taking on... when... you know, if... If I was 20, I'm trying to think of when I when I started at chiropractic school, graduated high school at 18. College at 22.Ian Hoffman  33:00So if I was 22 years old, and I went to try to get a mortgage for six figures, yeah, you know, there's no way but sure, you, we can give you six figures, you know, of debt for for college, right. So and it's an it's that it's a, it's a trap unfortunately, for a lot of people. I'm I'm, I value my education to no end. And I would do whatever it took to repay my debt. And and I was on that path. I was, you know, whether it was making my monthly payments, and then paying the tax bill.  Or earning more and paying it off more quickly, I would have done whatever I could, it wasn't about getting out of the debt.Mischa Zvegintzov  33:43Yes.Ian Hoffman  33:44But the fact that there's a federal program out there, that would erase my debt, because I was helping more people and providing a public service. I was all after that.Mischa Zvegintzov  33:54I love it. That's a great, great way to frame it, you are committed to like, Hey, I have this debt. If I took it on, I'm willing to be responsible for it. I as a matter of fact, I'm trying to pay it off sooner. So I can be a responsible consumer or whatever, you know, like... Reduce the lifetime interest on the damn thing or stuff. Right. Like and, and, yeah. But then you figure out an ethical way. I didn't even think about this. The you're like, oh, wait a minute, like, I'm trying to be responsible. Here's an alt solution to be responsible. And yeah, it's beautiful. Did I frame that right? Or did I say that right?Ian Hoffman  34:35Yeah, you did. You know, and, and...Ian Hoffman  34:35Why are we bailing out banks at three quarters of 1%? When a student who wants to become educated and become a doctor, we're gonna put them into student debt slavery for the rest of their life? You know, it doesn't make sense. So I do you feel, in some senses like Robin Hood you know... Trying to... cuz the student loan industry is huge.Ian Hoffman  34:35There's $1.5 trillion of student loan debt out there. It's more than credit cards and car loans combined. So it affects 45 million Americans, it's a huge issue. And that's why I feel really good about helping people to sleep better at night to get that student loan monkey off their back and to give back in the process.Ian Hoffman  34:37I go back to you know, you asked about the the student loan industry as a whole and I think what's crazy is when the banks needed a bailout, the federal government gave them that bailout at 0.75% interest rate. When I got my student loans, it was 6.8%.Mischa Zvegintzov  34:58Oh my god.Ian Hoffman  34:59So why that that feels backwards to me. Right?Mischa Zvegintzov  35:45Yeah, that's beautiful. Thank you for that. Let me ask you a question. As far as like, internally, you you're coming across these these professionals, medical professionals. Who are, you know, who have this burden who are trying to do the right thing and have a they're kind of doing the philanthropic thing, they might not even know it it sounds like right.  They have the activities and and you can wrap that, that nonprofit around it. What's like, the thing that, that they're thinking in their head that they're like, this doesn't make sense. What What's that? What's that? You know, what I'm saying? Like, how do you what is that thing that that, that that doctor in that situation internally is like, Yeah, but like, what's that thing?Ian Hoffman  36:35Regarding my program?Mischa Zvegintzov  36:36Yeah, regarding your program. Mischa Zvegintzov  36:39Yeah, like that internal, where they're like, they're thinking, like, well... I can't do it. Or I don't have the time. Or what is the what's like, what, what's the thing that stops people from taking advantage of this amazing thing internally? I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Right.Ian Hoffman  36:54Like, I mean, I think most often, it's that we have this silly phrase that, you know, if something sounds too good to be true, right? So I do hear that... And you know...there...Ian Hoffman  37:06Unfortunately, it's an industry where there are there are some scams out there, there are people taking advantage. And so I understand when my clients have questions, and they want to do their due diligence, and that's why I stopped selling the program directly from the webinar. And I want people to get on the phone with me. Because I want them to hear my heart and my purpose behind this. And I want to make sure that they're aligned with that. And I want to make sure that they understand that it's not me personally offering to forgive their student loan debt. And they do have responsibilities when they decide to join my program.  They have to run the nonprofit, effectively.  They have to learn the difference between how to run a nonprofit versus a for profit. We do all that training. But you know, there, I have this great quote, from www.nonprofitquarterly.org. Ian Hoffman  38:03They said six months of executive training for nonprofit professionals to on compliance costs between $4,000-$30,000. And that's included in my program, because I want people not just to help them start a nonprofit, I want them to be trained, so they can run it effectively in compliance with state and, and federal regulations. And so they're that means that they are taking on a different responsibility.  Instead of paying their student loan debt, they need to know that they are now going to learn how to run a nonprofit, and how to do that effectively, how to avoid conflicts of interest, and how to, you know, to meet the specific requirements for public service loan forgiveness.Mischa Zvegintzov  38:51So you help them do all that.Ian Hoffman  38:53We help them do all of that.Mischa Zvegintzov  38:55Is that like the biggest, the biggest sort of outside issue that that that a medical professional is going to feel when they when they come across this idea? Your your student loan? I forgot the name, I'm sorry, student loans eraser.Ian Hoffman  39:11Yes.Mischa Zvegintzov  39:12Is that is that is that the is that like the thing where they're like, wait a minute, this sounds too good to be true. But then they get you on the phone and they feel your heart? And they say, oh, no, this is real. I can do this. But then they're like, oh, there's this outside stuff. Like, is it that compliance piece? Or is it is it well, my wife's gonna think I'm crazy or what? What's that?Ian Hoffman  39:34So first, it's too good to be true. And then it's, it's the other two big ones time and money. Right. So how much is this going to cost? And how long is it going to take for me to get it set up? What are my time requirements in running the nonprofit? You know, what are those things look like? So those are all important questions that most people have.  That I addressed to a certain extent on the webinar, because I know everyone has those questions. Yeah, but then we We go deeper on the phone calls.Mischa Zvegintzov  40:01Okay, cool, cool, cool. And what's the what's like the epiphany moment for them where they're like, oh, my gosh, I have to do this.Ian Hoffman  40:09Yeah, um... Ian Hoffman  40:09Most people know they have to do it when when they look at how much student loan debt they have.  You know, when they look at their options.  Because you know, the truth is... I break it down. Ian Hoffman  40:09There's three, three ways to get out of your student loan debt, right? Number one, you can pay for 25 years, well, let's say four years, you can pay it off. But when you have multiple six figures of student loan debt, most people cannot do that in, you know, in a reasonable amount of time. Number two, you can go on an income driven plan, make the minimum payment for 25 years and save for that tax bill. That's, that's the way a lot of people go. Number three, you can qualify for public service, loan forgiveness, and get it erased in half the time tax free. That's the option I provide. And number four is die trying, you know, those, those really are the options. So between those four options, when you really break it down, people are able to see that, you know, if I can get out of debt in less than half the time tax free. That's really the way to go.Mischa Zvegintzov  41:23Thank you for answering. I want to know how many times did you almost quit in this process? How many times were you like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. And then the next day like, I can't do this another day? Yes. Because it's so hard building this.Ian Hoffman  41:40Yeah, I will say that I almost quit a few times before my first launch. Once I did my first launch. i i I've never looked back. So the first the the first year was really a challenge because that's when I was still full time in practice. Still, you know how to have had a new family.  You know, a lot lots of obligations. And I wasn't sleeping much because I was trying to get this thing off the ground. So it was stressful. It was stressful for sure. Plus, you know, I was running a for profit and nonprofit, you know, so I had a lot going on. And I did I did get to a few points where I'm like, What am I doing? What Why? Why am I doing this? Right? Yeah.Ian Hoffman  42:32But, uh, then I looked at that little girl with stage four cancer, you know, and I remembered my why. And she's now December of this year, she'll be six years cancer free. When we first met, she was as bald as me now her hair is as long as yours, you know. So yeah. And so now I realized that the the impact is what drives me my clients are taking care of over 10,000 nonprofit visits a month.  Which is amazing. So yeah, I wanted to quit early on. But...Mischa Zvegintzov  43:09Oh my god, thank you for that. Say that, again, what your nonprofit is doing what Say that again.Ian Hoffman  43:13So fast forward now.  In the five and a half for six years or so that I've been teaching this. We by the end of this year will have started over 400 charities, and those doctors are going to save over $100 million. And they're taking care of over 10,000 nonprofit patient visits per month. So those are the numbers that are important to me. Oh no, I know that as those numbers grow, so too, so does income.Mischa Zvegintzov  43:43You know what? I I literally wrote this down. And I wrote down it's an effort to create something like this. You deserve a standing ovation. Right? Just for the fact that no truly I mean, and I'm not even talking that's just on the creation and now that I hear like your impact. Oh my gosh, I just I you know... I need the... what I was gonna say is I need an applause but I need the standing ovation applause button.  So what great inspiration. um, so are you you're not chiropractic anymore? Or you do it a little bit or what's going on there?Ian Hoffman  44:22I'm not I'm not I really miss it. And so you know, one day I hope to have a little office with a box on the wall "Pay What You Can" you know that that kind of thing. That's That's my dream retirement. But for now...Ian Hoffman  44:39I also know that the the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program in and of itself is probably not going to be around forever. There's there's been over a million people that have submitted their employment certification form. There's a lot of interest in this program as complex and difficult you know, as as it is.  And so Every year in office President Trump asked Congress to close enrollment in public service loan forgiveness. And they never did. But it put the program on the chopping block where... there was always a grandfathering clause that said, once you're once you're enrolled, and once you have your student loans...they're not trying to take it away from anyone who is already enrolled. But they would close enrollment from that point forward to not let the program continue to grow. And Congress never changed it. They never they never did that. So the program survived. President Biden seems very in favor of all of the student loan forgiveness programs, including public service, loan forgiveness.  And they're making great strides to fix it and make it easier for people. So, you know, political shifts can change. And, you know, I'm, I'm in this for as long as I can be.Mischa Zvegintzov  45:58Does it keep you up at night at all? Are you ever Are you ever or do you have a connection or a trust factor that like, if this evaporates, "I know there's next"?Ian Hoffman  46:08Yeah, you know, the cool thing is that, because I was fortunate enough, I wound up getting a to two comma Club Award. This program, which was super fun, I got to shake Russell Brunson. And it was amazing. And, and get on stage at Funnel Hacking live in front of 1000s and 1000s of people.Mischa Zvegintzov  46:26Yeah,Mischa Zvegintzov  46:27What year was that?  What year was that?Ian Hoffman  46:292019.Mischa Zvegintzov  46:29Yeah, not Nashville was that which was Nashville? Yes. Yeah. Congratulations, another applause button.Ian Hoffman  46:38Thanks. That was super fun and a cool accomplishment. But since then, I think just naturally, you know, people hear about that. They find me online, somehow through to comic club or whatever. They I've had people reach out to me and ask me for help. Because they're trying to get an online program launch. They're trying to write a webinar, they're trying to go through this process. And the most common thing I hear is, I don't know what to do first. Okay, even if I do that, what do I do next? And so I've really had fun taking on a handful of select clients.   That, you know, are people who are doing something that I really believe in.  That are making the world better.  That are helping people with their product or service. And, you know, I've helped a couple of them get to market, get on Click Funnels and, and develop their, their funnel. So I do some of that coaching. And I think that if, if Public Service Loan Forgiveness went away overnight, I would probably have a lot of fun getting into that more.Mischa Zvegintzov  47:47Yeah, yeah, great, what a gift. But how cool is that? To know that that can shift there if necessary, or wherever the universe is going to take you.   Or however you...Ian Hoffman  48:01Yeah totally.Mischa Zvegintzov  48:02Yeah, that's super cool. Any upsells down cells along the way you have? Or are you? Or do you have like progression for your doctors? So you have your first $5000 to $7,000? Class? Is there a next step for them? Or no, you're pretty focused on that.Ian Hoffman  48:26There, there's not. There's no upsell, so to speak, as far as as that's concerned. But I do remember reading about how important it is to have a continuity funnel to have monthly recurring revenue instead of just one chunk at a time. And so I got together about two years ago now with the team that I use to do the legal work. So they write the articles of incorporation and bylaws send that to the state, they send the required documents to the IRS. And so they have a great team.Ian Hoffman  49:00And we put together a compliance program for my clients. Where we call it the "hands free 501 C three maintenance program". And so that includes help with bookkeeping, payroll, state and federal tax returns, help with their board meetings. You know, compliance questions, all of that. And really it that it's $157 a month, we tried to keep it really affordable. And it's it's an option. Some of my clients choose to keep their nonprofit, very low budget, and they do all those things themselves. But for the ones who are really busy, the ones who their nonprofit can afford it. We do have that as I would say kind of an upsell. Ian Hoffman  49:48And then as a down sell.  The first step in this whole process is making sure that people have the the first two requirements.  They have the right type of student loans.  And they're on an income driven repayment plan with the lowest possible monthly payment, because that helps us maximize their savings and cash flow.Ian Hoffman  50:08And so I do a custom student loan plan. For people who are on the fence, they're like, show me my numbers, how much can I save? Before I sign up, so that sometimes I have specials, that's usually somewhere between $297 and $497. But you know, that's a great way for people to get their numbers and see how much they're going to save before they jump into the full program. So really, it's about twice a year, I'll send some emails, you know, telling people about the the custom student loan plan. And that works great as well.Mischa Zvegintzov  50:46Fantastic. Thank you for answering it. And I next interview, I'm going to ask it more delicately because upsell and down sell can sound a little salesy, right. But really, oh, here's an added value. If you're a busy, medical professional, and you're, you're cranking away at your business, and you've created this nonprofit that's thriving. Or maybe more than they anticipated, or something, you're like, hey, we can we can maintain your compliance on a on a monthly basis. So you don't have to worry about it. It's beautiful. Right? Versus, and then you've also got, hey, someone's not ready to feel like you know what, I think I'll just start with like, let's clean up my my student loan debt, let's just clean it up a little bit. Make sure I'm maximizing, you know, interest rates and all that sort of stuff. Yeah?Ian Hoffman  51:38Sure.Mischa Zvegintzov  51:38Yes. Great.Ian Hoffman  51:39There are people that that start there. And I show them that they can lower their their payments enough where it pays for the full program in and of itself within two years, or whatever that is. So it's just a nice way to help people save money and provide value quickly. And then if they choose to get started with the full program, great. If not, they've had a great interaction with me. And hopefully they saved a ton of money.Mischa Zvegintzov  52:07Yeah, fantastic. And I'm looking over here a little bit as a, as we're talking, I'm looking at  your landing page, the introduction to the webinar. And there was something I saw on there about a group, there's you do you have a group associated with this? Where? Yeah,Ian Hoffman  52:25Yeah, so all my clients, one of the bonuses that they get is access to a private Facebook group. We have, I think there's, there's over 200 doctors in that group at this point, it might be 250 At this point.  But it's, it's a way for them to share resources and provide community support. Sometimes someone will find an article, even though I stay really up to date with the political stuff regarding student loans. Sometimes they find things before me, and they post it there, and then I get a chance to comment. So they're, you know, people will have questions about anything, you know, related to their student loans or related to the nonprofit, and we get to provide community support, share referrals, resources that way.Mischa Zvegintzov  53:14Cool. What's sort of the coolest thing you've seen on the group?  Where you're like, Whoa, I didn't expect that. That was amazing.Ian Hoffman  53:21Yeah. Um, to be honest, it was like, it was a, it was a fear that turned into a really cool, powerful moment. So I had somebody who posted that they were flagged for an IRS audit. And it was something that was totally unrelated to their student loans and to the nonprofit. But they wound up posting, you know, as they went through the process that the IRS, the nonprofit that we started for them got looked at, and it passed with flying colors. There were no the IRS had no issues with the setup or with with any part of that. So that was fantastic for everyone in the group to see. We cross our T's we dot our I's we teach it a certain way.Mischa Zvegintzov  54:10Yes. Ian Hoffman  54:11We do that because you know that that's the way to do it.Mischa Zvegintzov  54:15Yeah.Ian Hoffman  54:16There's, there's only one way in my opinion, if you're going to go down this path, and that's the rightMischa Zvegintzov  54:21way. That's beautiful. Ian, thank you so much. Um, I had one other question. It just escaped me. Um, maybe that means we should be done.Mischa Zvegintzov  54:32Oh, but I wanted to tell anybody watching and, and listening. Either go into the show notes or click below www.erasemystudent loans.com click on that link. And you can check out the webinar and just get all the quality information and if it makes sense and you want to reorganize your debt or start a nonprofit help save the world and wipe it off the books or or what have you click on that link and learn. I guess my next question is, is there like a breakeven point you have? So if someone's got, like $10,000, in student loan debt, obviously, you know what? Probably not, I'm not your guy, is it? Like, right? That's what's that number and above?Ian Hoffman  55:19It's not so much a specific number of an amount of student loan debt, although I will give you that number. Um, it's, it's their debt relative to their income, because, for example, if they have $50,000 of student loan debt, but they have no income, than the $50,000 is still gonna be there. Plus interest 10 years from now? Yes. Right. So, you know, that's why it's related to their income, versus if they have $50,000 of student loan debt, and they make $250,000 a year, they're gonna pay that off before they qualify for forgiveness, right. So that's why it's it's debt relative to their income. And for the most part, I would say, you know, if you're, if your monthly payment is at or below interest, meaning, if your debt is not going down, yes, then we that's how we know that this might be a good option for you. And I would say that, at a minimum, I typically want to see somewhere between $50,000 and $70,000, of student loan debt, you know, to take on a client. However, I have, I have had clients that have $750,000 of student loan debt. So it's no joke, you know, as as a naturopathic doctors right now are graduating with $400,000.  Dentists are graduating with $400,000.Mischa Zvegintzov  56:47What!?Ian Hoffman  56:48And some people have multiple degrees. So yeah, and then, you know, on top of, let's say, You graduated with $400,000 of student loan debt, and you didn't have a substantial income right out of school, five years later, that might be significantly higher. So that's why we start to see people who have half a million dollar plus a, you know, that's that those are really my favorite clients, because there's no way they're paying that off, you know, unfortunately.Mischa Zvegintzov  57:22Unfortunately, so they could actually be thriving as a practice and have a ton of income, but that the burden of that debt is just... It's heavy, right? Like it. Especially if you're growing a family and doing all that and have a house, totally things.Ian Hoffman  57:38There are statistic statistics now on student debt related suicides, and student debt related divorces, and student I mean, it's just, it's miserable. Um, so, you know, I would say, for anyone in those kinds of positions, um, you know, there's help.Mischa Zvegintzov  57:57That's amazing. Um, and so I just want to recap, one thing, if what I'm hearing you say is, if someone's making a million dollars a year, and they have $100,000, in loan debt, and they have no other debt, like that's not your guy, because they can just effectively pay it off. Quick anyway, right, like, pay it off, versus going through the hoops of paying me all this stuff? Is that effectively what I heard you say?Ian Hoffman  58:21Correct. Um, that being said, I do have clients who are earning in excess of $250,000 a year, so. But, again, if you're earning debt load, but you have half a million dollars of debt, that's why it's not just a picture of how much debt you have. It's debt and income,Mischa Zvegintzov  58:39I get it. It's like the debt to income ratio, if you wanted to call it like that. Right? And it's, it's the whole debt to income ratio, right? Like by the time you have your car payment in there, maybe some credit card payments in there, and maybe some, right when you put the whole picture together.  It's like yeah, you could be making a lot but but that total that load? Okay, you've answered the question. I don't mean to brow that any brow beat that anymore? Did you want to clarify there? Because I didn't mean to dilute that message. If I did,Ian Hoffman  59:07No, no worries. And and I'm happy to have people check out the web class, make sure that this is something that they want to pursue, get the information and if they're not sure, on their those numbers, you know, jump on a call with me, we can always start with the custom student loan plan. That's why I have that option to run the numbers for them.Ian Hoffman  59:27And I also provide two money back guarantees in my program because I want to make it a no brainer. So the first guarantee is that after they sign up, when I do the first step, and I look at what type of loans they have, what repayment plan they're in, I estimate how much they can expect to save by qualifying for public service loan forgiveness. And if I can't provide a you know, an estimate of 1,000% return on their investment, you know, basically meaning. The program itself is is $5000 If we if I'm not going to show them that they're going to qualify for at least $50,000 in savings, then I give them an opportunity to have a refund.Ian Hoffman  1:00:10And then the second guarantee that I make is that one, it's their responsibility from that point forward to complete the steps in the student loan eraser and go through the course and with my help and guidance, but once they complete the process, I the last step is that they send a document to the Department of Education, letting them know that they now have qualified employment, and they get a letter back saying, letting them know how many payments they've made, or how much how many months they have that count towards public service, loan forgiveness.  So they know they're in. If they get denied, they get we work with them until they get approved or they get a refund. So it has to work or I don't feel that I deserve to keep the payment.Mischa Zvegintzov  1:00:53That's amazing. That is amazing. That's amazing. And thank you for explaining it that way. That's that's clear and concise. Like that's almost if you fit if you fit the person that can use help that needs they can they can get you can help clean up their their debt load serve community. like they fit that model. If you aren't able to come through it's not it's it's a no lose situation. That's That's powerful. Wow. I know you're a busy guy. I know you've got a son out there still and all that and so I want to I want you to let you get back to your day. But I want to tell everybody again, erase my I'm looking at it. It's a beautiful it's a beautiful landing page very concise, easy to easy to figure out what to do https://www.erasemystudentloans.com/ The link will be in the show notes as well but absolutely click on it. And just the impact I'm I just getting the chills by the impact I just that you're bringing is really truly beautiful and inspirational. So thank you for that.  Ian. Dr. Ian Hoffman. I'm gonna hit stop, and then we'll say goodbye offline.Ian Hoffman  1:02:18Okay. All right. Thank you, Mischa, I appreciate the opportunity.Mischa Zvegintzov  1:02:20Indeed. Cheers.

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You can watch this interview here! www.TableRushTalkShow.comMolly loves helping her clients to systemize their work and master the magnetics of marketing so they can experience more freedom and make an even bigger difference. ” She's got courses, coaching, and tarot cards that she's grown into a 6 figure business.  She can show you how to create a kick ass lead magnet.  ...and all from the comforts of her sprinter van.Molly is the founder of Wild Hearts Rise Up. Creator of Magnetic Influencer Collective. The writer and illustrator of the Wild Hearts Rise Up Oracle deck.  And the host of two podcasts. 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But if you start testing and trying and exploring and actually putting things out in the world, you will get clearer a lot faster.”And then, in an ode to the original Bitch Slap …The Accelerated Path To Peach Podcast! she tells me about one of her bitch slaps from the universe…  Busted down vehicles.  Stepping out of the matrix. Redemption with her father!  Her list finally bears fruit.It turns out she gets her writing gifts from her mother.  Who just happens to be a successful screen writer.  And hosts writing retreats on cruise ships to Europe.  And who is Molly's biggest supporter and inspiration. And we finish up with the power of personal development work.  And she breaks down her favorite books, modalities etc. ENJOY!Administrative: (See episode transcript below)All things Molly Mandelberg!Wild Hearts Rise Up: https://www.wildheartsriseup.com/Magnetic Influencer Collective: https://wildheartsriseup.mykajabi.com/magicWild Hearts Rise Up Oracle deck: https://wildheartsriseup.mykajabi.com/oracle-deck-and-guidebookTactical Magic Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-magic-podcast/id1334995814Reveal The Game of Life podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reveal-the-game-of-life/id1548076235Where she got some of her sales training.  Thrive! Academy.  https://thrive-academy.com/And Access Consciousness: https://www.accessconsciousness.com/Her quiz:  https://go2.bucketquizzes.com/sf/2c4a2f89The books she mentions.“Ask.” Ryan Levesque.  Ask: The Counterintuitive Online Formula to Discover Exactly What Your Customers Want to Buy...Create a Mass of Raving Fans...and Take Any Business to the Next Level https://amzn.to/3JhWFr5“Loving What Is” Byron Katie, https://amzn.to/3Fs42tE“Being You, Changing the World”.  Dr. Dain Heer. https://amzn.to/3mvIrc5Her quiz course: https://wildheartsriseup.mykajabi.com/quiz-mastery-greenMolly's resource page! https://www.wildheartsriseup.com/offerings/resources/Check out the Tools For A Good Life Summit here: Virtually and FOR FREE https://bit.ly/ToolsForAGoodLifeSummitStart podcasting!  These are the best mobile mic's for IOS and Android phones.  You can literally take them anywhere on the fly.Get the Shure MV88 mobile mic for IOS,  https://amzn.to/3z2NrIJGet the Shure MV88+ for  mobile mic for Android  https://amzn.to/3ly8SNjSee more resources at https://belove.media/resourcesEmail me: contact@belove.mediaFor social Media:      https://www.instagram.com/mrmischaz/https://www.facebook.com/MischaZvegintzovSubscribe and share to help spread the love for a better world!As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.Transcript:Mischa Zvegintzov 00:15Well Molly, how are you?Molly Mandelberg 00:17I'm well today Thank you.Mischa Zvegintzov 00:19Molly Mandelberg you are the founder of Wild Hearts Rise Up. Creator of Magnetic Influencer Collective. And you're the writer and illustrator of the Wild Hearts Rise Up Oracle deck. You're the host of two podcasts. Tactical Magic Podcast. which you just interviewed me on for on whatever the other day. which was amazing you just were held so much beautiful space and and at these great times you very eloquently recapped what I said and I was very impressed with that. So thank you very much. And then you've got the Reveal The Game of Life podcast. Is that still in action?Molly Mandelberg 01:03Oh, yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 01:04Okay, fantastic. So you are managing two podcasts?Molly Mandelberg 01:09Yeah. And a business and social life somehow too...Mischa Zvegintzov 01:15...And a business and social life AND which on here I guess we'll get to that...  Well, I'll keep going because the best parts coming up I think.Mischa Zvegintzov 01:27After spending years mastering content creation and online marketing, and I'm going to interject here really quick, you, the few times I've got to interact with you.Mischa Zvegintzov 01:33You clearly have the copy and the content creation side of things... very intuitive around that. Very well experienced. When we've been interacting and I've been you know hedging or looking for words you very quickly and eloquently bring up... help frame it in a very cool way. So anyone listening needs to know that about Molly. Aifted and awesome. Mischa Zvegintzov 01:43So as I start creating funnels, there's a great chance Molly will be working on the copy.Molly Mandelberg 02:12Looking forward to it.Mischa Zvegintzov 02:13Yeah. Hopefully.  You never know, right? We get to pick our clients too, right? My guess is you're very good at picking your clients and being like, "Yeah, you don't fit Have a good day".Mischa Zvegintzov 02:28Molly finds her bliss in bridging the worlds of heart centered healing and transformation with the practical business strategies of levering leveraging a message into a global movement. You're a certified NLP coach. An Access Consciousness bars facilitator. And a transformational leadership coach. And a full time nomad.Mischa Zvegintzov 02:53Molly works with coaches, healers and conscious leaders to broadcast their messages with ease, so they can reach more people and make more money with less time spent. Hence, you do not mess around that you live by the schedule. She travels the world full time and runs her six figure business out of her self converted Sprinter van time and tiny home. Now, how fun is that?Mischa Zvegintzov 03:20Molly loves helping her clients to systemize their work and master the magnetics of marketing so they can experience more freedom and make an even bigger difference.Mischa Zvegintzov 03:35So how do you do this out of your van? Molly Mandelberg 03:39Yeah, however I feel like it...Molly Mandelberg 03:41I just want to say you said a couple times that I don't mess around. And I want to revisit that and just say "I built my business in such a way that I have time to mess around". So I definitely do have lots of travel and lots of play, and lots of exploring and adventures. And I think when we set our business up the right way, we can have that spaciousness and have that time, which is why being a full time Nomad makes it possible because I have systems set up to support me to do that.Mischa Zvegintzov 04:11Yeah. Tell me about that journey. Have you? Did you come out of the womb like I'm a Systems girl or a systems person?Molly Mandelberg 04:17And I actually had a moment where I was ready to quit my business. Hmm. I asked my friend, Karen, there are great Karen's in the world, I have to say, Karen, you know, would you just tell me what I'm good at? Because I clearly can't see my strengths myself, like, Would you tell me what the world actually needs for me.Molly Mandelberg 04:17I think I've always had a very engineering brain. And I like understanding how things work. And I like putting puzzles together. But it wasn't until really I started my business as a hypnotherapist and immediately started just geeking out on online marketing and trying to understand how how people who don't know me could learn to know me and like me, and trust me. and how I could create content that both adds value to people's lives and also sometimes invites them into my world. And as I started geeking out on that there was a period of time where there was this dissonance of, I just want to build things I just want to make content but If none of it is really landing, and it's not really aligning the business I'm running is not really aligning with who I feel like I'm becoming.Molly Mandelberg 05:26And she said, we need your help with that stuff, you have a capacity with creating content and writing copy, and building these systems and using technology that most of us that are coaches and healers don't have figured out and don't want to figure out. Because we want to keep doing just the healing work that the magic trick that we've mastered, the modalities that we are in love with.Molly Mandelberg 05:50And the words that came out of my mouth where "no one's gonna pay me for that. That's the fun part."Molly Mandelberg 05:54And if you ever hear yourself saying or thinking that that's probably the thing you're meant to be doing.Molly Mandelberg 06:00So what happened over time, is I was going hard into the technology and system development, like realm. That consciousness part of me, the healer that had started a business as a hypnotherapist was feeling under serving, I guess you could say it was feeling left behind. And so it's been a process to synthesize those two. So that's why I say I bridge the world between the heart centered healing and the tactics and strategy to grow business.  Because I think both of those are absolutely required to actually level up and to get the success and to reach the people that we want to reach.Molly Mandelberg 06:00Doing the technology and setting up the program. And writing the copy is only part of it. Getting ourselves aligned in such a way that our people can even find us that we take our invisibility cloaks off that we broadcast our light into the world, that we're willing to receive the income and the clients that want to come to us in a big way. That is a key component in this in the growing of a business like this. So I now teach both, I brought in the healing back into my business to help people uncover those limiting beliefs and break through those upper limits. So that they could do both.Molly Mandelberg 06:00And I had...we were at a workshop, when we had this conversation, I had a chance the next day, to give a talk, I had won a challenge, purely through tenacity, not through making money as a speaker, but I'd want to speak or challenge and I got to speak to part of the room. And I changed my talk overnight and made an offer for that basically, helping people develop their content and figure out how to leverage their message to be online. And hopefully, through courses and programs beyond just one on one services. And I made that offer. And I got three clients, which had been the first three clients in many months. So I was really it was a turning point, it felt like a sign from the universe that I'm supposed to go this way now. And those three clients, single sessions led to packages led to referrals. And that was four or five years ago that maybe six years ago, that I made that shift, and it's just expanded and grown.Mischa Zvegintzov 08:07Hmm. So it's almost as if the systemization, the copy creation, is a backdoor into, into Alright, let's look at your limiting beliefsMolly Mandelberg 08:22...or people show up for both now, which is great. Yeah. Yeah, cuz I mean, anyone out there who is an entrepreneur who has tried to share something with the world, you may have noticed that even if you set it up perfectly and do it, right, it doesn't always work. And sometimes that's because we don't believe it will work.  Sometimes that's because there's a part of us that's afraid it will work. I think it was who I'm forgetting her name Marianne Williamson that said, we're more afraid of our light than our darkness. Yeah, yeah, we're actually terrified of success. We're terrified of outgrowing our family and friends, and being too big into potent into powerful. And we have to get over that shit if we're actually going to make the difference that we're on this earth to make.Mischa Zvegintzov 09:05Yeah. What do you think? What do you think, is the biggest sticking point there? You'd you see from your clients? Like, what's the what's the biggest?Molly Mandelberg 09:19Like, usually with my clients, they come in saying, I want to make this bigger thing happen. And I just don't know where to start. Because there's so much information on the internet. You've been on YouTube, you know, there's 1000s of people trying to teach you the thing they know how to do. And there's so many different ways to grow a business. There's so many different strategies that will work for certain people. And it's really easy to get lost in a sea of too many tools, and too many techniques and too many different avenues to pay attention to.Molly Mandelberg 09:51So a lot of my clients come to me overwhelmed with all the ideas that have been thrown at them. And feeling like they're spinning their wheels going in circles, just to figure out what their business actually needs, how to bring their message forth. So I don't teach one size fits all business, I ask the person, what they're wanting to create. And then depending on what their strengths are, what their energetic brilliance is, we figure out the best way for their business to grow and for their projects to come to life. And how to create those in such a way that they're duplicatable, so that you run a program and it's not dead, and you have to start a new one, you can recreate it and launch it and sell it another time. And we want to systemize that process. So it's really easy to keep mastering the craft of whatever that new program or course is that you've created.Mischa Zvegintzov 10:40Hmm. And so do you have your a systems girl? And I hope that's okay, that I say that oh, yeah. Okay, cool. You're a systems girls. So someone rolls in. And they're like, I have a vision in what so what's your like, process, step one we go...Molly Mandelberg 10:59Depends on the business again. So it depends on where the person is at.Molly Mandelberg 11:02I will say the first tools that I recommend every entrepreneur in this kind of coaching and healing leadership kind of space. If you don't have a scheduler, and you don't have an email list start there. A scheduler is an online scheduler, so people can take a link and book themselves on your calendar. If you've ever tried to make an appointment with someone, and you've gone through six or seven emails back and forth, trying to find a time that works for both of you, and then somebody has to figure out the Zoom link, then somebody has to add it to the calendar. And all of that could be done in one click of a link. That is the first time saving tool, any entrepreneur or anyone who's working outside of you know, a regular nine to five job... that online schedule or if you need to make appointments with someone, that's the first thing that's going to save you a ton of time. You should not be responding and replying to five emails just to set one appointment.Mischa Zvegintzov 11:56It's ludicrous, right?Molly Mandelberg 11:57It's ludicrous.Molly Mandelberg 11:58And then the email list... beginning to build your audience.Molly Mandelberg 12:01People think email marketing is dead. Molly Mandelberg 12:03Email marketing, the old way it used to be done is definitely dead. People do not want 30 blasts hard selling them on something that they may or may not want. That's gone. But there are ways to use your email list to actually build a relationship with people. And if anybody was around, we'll say mid October, in 2021. Facebook and Instagram went down for half a day. Nobody could get in, nobody could see anything new. If you were building our marketing presence on those platforms, that was probably a scary day for you. Because nobody could see what you were doing. And you couldn't reach out to anyone. And you might notice that that could happen any time those platforms are not set in stone. They could die. Your account could be closed for no reason. It's really hard to get ahold of anyone.Molly Mandelberg 12:48So building an audience, on your own system, your own email list, where you're actually finding people who want to be in your inner circle, and having a chance to connect directly with them. Yes, not everyone will open every email. Yes, not everyone will want to buy your stuff. But you have an opportunity there to actually cultivate a connection with your people in a way that you don't on social media.Molly Mandelberg 12:48So building an email list and figuring out how to connect with them is the next one.Molly Mandelberg 12:58And one of the things I would put, I usually put on my clients, you know, priority list. Is to find ways to connect with those people when you're not selling. So a lot of people are like, Okay, I have a list, but I'm not growing my list. And I'm not really connecting with them unless I'm having something to invite them to. Well, there's this energetic. I call it an energetic bank account that we have with each individual that's on our list. And if we're just asking and inviting and making calls to action, and asking people to register and click after a while, it feels pretty slimy. It's like stop asking me for stuff. I don't want it. I don't know you, I don't care. And it feels like you're taking taking taking.Molly Mandelberg 13:59So the antidote to that is to make deposits in that energetic bank account by delivering actual value. And that could be your podcast, that could be videos you've put on YouTube. That could be just a note of like, here's what I'm thinking about. Here's a story about something that happened to me and what I learned from it. That's just I just want to share that with you hope you have a great day, adding little value contribution nuggets like that makes the energetic bank account feel better when you're ready to go and make a withdrawal, so to speak, ask people to click or to register or to show up to something.Mischa Zvegintzov 14:32Can I ask you a question?  A little nuance within that.  If you're... because you were talking to me... we had a conversation andI was like yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to increase my email rate to my list. And you're like, Well, you you, you do a podcast episode every day you could affect and I can't remember how you said it. You said you could do like you could say here's my here's this email... Here's this podcast episode that I did. Here's the main gist of it. Here's the highlight. Listen for the rest. Is that kind of what you said?Molly Mandelberg 15:11Yeah totally yeah.  That is both. I mean, because you're asking them to come over and click it. In some ways, it could be seen as an ask.  But because it's free. And you're not asking them to register or give them any give you any information, it is kind of just a value add. The reason I said put the little nugget, the juicy synopsis or whatever in there in the email.Molly Mandelberg 15:32Some of your audience wants to read stuff, some of your audience wants to listen to stuff, some of your audience wants to watch stuff. So giving them the option of receiving your juicy nugget of value in a way that works for them is how you kind of serve the whole people.Mischa Zvegintzov 15:48Yeah. love it. That's great. Do you what? What....Mischa Zvegintzov 15:53So a couple of things come to mind. And one is, you know, it's easy to stay, say start building an email list, saying it in the reality of one day at a time starting to build that email list are two different things. But I'm also intrigued how did you?  Well. So you're obviously building your list. Pre Karen, right? Pretty good Karen. You're you're building your list, but it's more focused on hypnotherapy, NLP, things like that more of the healing modality. You have the epiphany with Karen, your friend...Mischa Zvegintzov 16:29what was your friend's name? Who was like, Hey, speak at my thing. You remember his name, or her name?Molly Mandelberg 16:33The place where I won this where I had the speaking opportunity? That was called Thrive Academy, which is an amazing business growth thing for people who are early on in their business and want to find their niche and learn how to make find clients.Mischa Zvegintzov 16:45Cool. And so was it in their online? Yes. So was it an opportunity to present online?Molly Mandelberg 16:50No, it was years ago. So it was in person at a conference.Mischa Zvegintzov 16:54Hence the you were looking for the Table Rush it worked? Yeah, we'll tie that in. So. So you are going to you said...Molly Mandelberg 17:07You're asking how do I interact with my list when I'm changing my niche?Mischa Zvegintzov 17:10Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 17:11Well, well, hold on. hold. So if I'm interested... what was your presentation? You said I changed it overnight. Right? You had? Yeah. So was that easy? Or sticky? Or was it did it come quick? Or was it...Molly Mandelberg 17:25I was at a speaking conference where they were teaching me how to be a good speaker and make an offer. So I was using their template in their framework to rewrite my speech. So my speech beforehand was more... I forget I was changing my niche a lot that first couple years, or that first few months in Thrive Academy, but it was something like finding your purpose.Molly Mandelberg 17:47Which I had noticed over a few months, nobody actually wants to put down money to find their purpose, at least they didn't want to with me.  It was a little bit too vague and not really like hitting on a true pain point, which is, what do you actually want to be? Or how do you actually want to, you know... usually the niches that work very directly speak to being... finding more wealth.Mischa Zvegintzov 18:11YepMolly Mandelberg 18:12Being healthier, or feeling more beautiful, or healing or transforming your relationships. So being in a purpose niche, I wasn't quite nailing one of those directions. And that's why nobody was really showing up. So when you're talking about growing a business that's directly related to increasing my financial abundance, and so people are more likely to invest in working in something like that.Mischa Zvegintzov 18:36So you, you You're, you're pre that moment, you as you're taking... you're taking classes to learn how to present... Which I love. I think that's such a cool thing. I did not know that about you. So you're taking that to be more effective.Molly Mandelberg 18:51And at the beginning of my business, I was learning whatever the hell I could to help me.Mischa Zvegintzov 18:55So good. That's I think it's so powerful.Molly Mandelberg 18:57Yeah, it's important to to invest in mentorship of people who know how to do what you want to do is a really like, high level way to go about anything. If you don't know how to do something, learning it from somebody who really does know how to do it is a fast track to figuring it out.Mischa Zvegintzov 19:14So good. And I think you know, that was a that's been a hard lesson for me over my life. People will say invest in yourself and that can be a very ambiguous term but that is clearly an actionable way to invest in yourself, right?Molly Mandelberg 19:29Yeah. Monetarily investing in mentorship and also investing time in learning something new that could look like reading a book and actually trying to implement what it tells you... Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 19:40So is this outside of thrive? So thrive and you taking these classes are two different things?Molly Mandelberg 19:45I was taking many different paths Thrive was one of the big ones at the beginning of my business.Mischa Zvegintzov 19:50Okay. And I'm sorry to get granular granular on you. But are you learning how to speak on stage through thrive and you win one of their...Molly Mandelberg 20:00I was.  In 2015 or 2016 .Mischa Zvegintzov 20:03You get the opportunity to present cuz you are doing a good job.Molly Mandelberg 20:07Yeah, I won their game. Mischa Zvegintzov 20:09You won their game. perfect.Mischa Zvegintzov 20:10So... you have the epiphany moment and before your headline or your thesis of your talk is literally, "I'll help you find your purpose".Molly Mandelberg 20:21Something along those lines. Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 20:23Then it became... Do you remember fairly specifically what it became?Molly Mandelberg 20:26It became "I'll help you get your business online basically".Mischa Zvegintzov 20:30Fantastic. Thank you.Molly Mandelberg 20:31Yeah. And that's evolved a lot since then to to be more specific.Mischa Zvegintzov 20:34Okay, cool.Molly Mandelberg 20:36So what to go back to what we were talking about which is you're growing an email list, you've got this audience of people who want to hear a certain kind of thing from you. I had to pivot to say, "This is who I'm talking to now. And this is the kind of stuff that I'm coming to." And this is a great email for anyone who changes in directions. And I mean, I had changed directions enough times that year that some people on my list got number, a number of these emails. Molly Mandelberg 20:59You basically want to say, "Hey, I'm so and so I'm here you've been hearing from me, or maybe you haven't been, and I am moving in a new direction. And I want to give you the chance to stay or go.  Are you down to hear from me about these kinds of things?  This is kind of stuff I'm gonna be sharing with you, and and inviting you to and talking about. And if you want to hear about that, no action necessary.  If you think you'd rather not hear about from that from me or about that at all, or for me at all anymore. This is your invitation to unsubscribe, or you can hit reply, and I will unsubscribe you for you. And that's really generous, because it's saying, Hey, here's what we're doing. And are you in or are you out. And if you're out no hard feelings. And if you're in, let's go.Molly Mandelberg 21:03So you can do it in a really connected way. And usually, the people who stick around are now probably less...Molly Mandelberg 21:54Anytime you lose subscribers, it's actually a good thing. Because you've now condensed your list to being more passionate about you. More connected, more happy to hear from you.  Anybody who leaves is taking themselves out of it. And so you now have got a more potent connection with your list. And so that... I mean part of those years, I was trying to figure out how to build my list in the first place. And I had to recreate new strategies and try different things and different things work.Molly Mandelberg 22:22But people are generally less inclined to just put their email in a box for no reason. They're more likely, Same with the energetic bank account idea, they're more likely to put their name and email in a box, if they are going to get something that they want. So people don't really want a newsletter. People don't really want to simply stay connected, although sometimes they will, if they think you're awesome, especially if you have a podcast, they've been connecting with you. They want to know what else is out there. But giving them a reason. So some kind of a free gift, some kind of a video series, some sort of a tool for them to receive more magic, only available through that portal, they'll come through the portal to get the thing.Mischa Zvegintzov 23:06So what are you doing today? What's your little (Free gift)?Molly Mandelberg 23:10Yes, so I've got tons of free gifts. Anytime you buy a program, or course of course you end up on my email list. And then I've got a free gift called the "Money Machine Blueprint", which is sort of the framework of how email lists work and tells you how to make a free gift and stuff like that.Molly Mandelberg 23:25The best free gift or lead magnet that I've ever created, which I had to create a course to teach people how to do it because it works so well. Is a quiz. I call it "A Client Attracting Quiz." And my quiz is on my website, it's, "What level of thought leader are you?" And it lets people know of the five stages that I created this framework with archetypes from the Major Arcana of the Tarot. Are you the fool? Are you the magician? Are you the High Priestess? the Empress? or the higher fan? And depending on where you land on that, what's the invitation to start growing into the next phase. So people get this beautiful 16 page PDF all written up about how where they're at right now is perfect.  How it's really a beautiful part of the phases of growing a business and becoming a thought leader. And how to overcome their inner arch nemesis to begin expanding into the next level. So that quiz has gone through three or four different maybe five different iterations over the years. But after I saw it start really working. I started running a $5 a day Facebook ad to it. And I grew my list to like 10,000 after a year or two.Mischa Zvegintzov 24:33That is amazing.Molly Mandelberg 24:35So I was getting 70 to 100 leads every single week just by running a small add to my quiz. And that was the biggest list grow thing ever and I had peers of mine colleagues of mine that I've done other projects with tell me I was a damn fool for not teaching people how to do what I did with that. And so I created a course to do that.Mischa Zvegintzov 24:55Tell me the name of the course again,Molly Mandelberg 24:57Quiz mastery.Mischa Zvegintzov 24:58And it's all in your... they can go to I've got it over here. Is that on your where to go? Why? What's your website? Again?Molly Mandelberg 25:07www.WildHeartsRiseUp.comMischa Zvegintzov 25:09Yes, www.WildHeartsRiseUp.com. I'm looking over here anybody wondering what I'm looking at? And say it again, because I'm thinking we definitely want people to hear that again. So they can...Molly Mandelberg 25:24www.WildHeartsRiseUp.com. And if you go to offerings, and then programs, you'll find it.  Called Quiz Mastery. And on the home page you'll see the quiz if you want to take it and see how you like it. Nine questions. It's really fun.Mischa Zvegintzov 25:37Nice. And it's fun, how fun, it's fun, and educational.Molly Mandelberg 25:41That's the thing is people love to interact with a quiz because it's a game. And we've been playing games for 1000s of years, people want to be entertained, they want to be asked questions about themselves. And through the process of answering those questions. They're already learning something about themselves. So there's this introspection, this self awareness and this gamified experience, that is just more fun than other free gifts.Mischa Zvegintzov 26:05It's beautiful.Mischa Zvegintzov 26:06Question on the the inspiration to say, "I'm changing directions. This is it, if you want to hear about it. Fantastic. You don't have to do anything just to enjoy, learn whatever. Or unsubscribe." Was that taught to you? Or it was that inspiration?Molly Mandelberg 26:27I just sort of, I don't think I learned that from anyone.Mischa Zvegintzov 26:31Just intuitive at this point. Trial and error. You're like people... like people want to know this. They don't just...Molly Mandelberg 26:36Well, yeah, I mean, I wanted to feel authentic and sending them a different kind of content. So I wanted to let them know that things were changing, new stuff was gonna be coming.Mischa Zvegintzov 26:46And then the quiz thing was that a little combination inspiration... you'd heard of thatMolly Mandelberg 26:51That was from a book called "The ask method" by Ryan Levesque (https://amzn.to/3JhWFr5) who really designed that whole process from a lot of research and human psychology and stuff like that. So he came up with a system, and I just kind of reverse engineered what I learned from him.Mischa Zvegintzov 27:09Fantastic. So thank you for sharing that. Anybody who's listening? Watching. Is like, Oh, this is awesome. They can reach out to you. And you would be like, hey, I'll walk you through this. Let's, let's get your... I'll teach you even how to use the online calendar. And, and let's start building your list. And here's the quiz.  And you, you'd be like, alright, you would dig in and be like, alright, what kind of quiz are we going to make for you? Like, if I called you, you'd be like, alright, Mischa, what do you like? What are you passionate about? Let's get the quiz together. You could help somebody with that?Molly Mandelberg 27:46Yes, I do. I have the the quiz Mastery program is self guided. Sometimes I also run it live with q&a calls. And then I also have done for you services for quizzes where people can come to me and have the idea. And then I go and build the whole thing for them.Mischa Zvegintzov 28:01And you travel around in a van, which I'm looking at, which is incredible. It's... alright. Great. That's fantastic. Thank you. Alright, so...Molly Mandelberg 28:12I'm actually you just gave me a good idea I've been meaning to for a long time, I have a template for how to set up your scheduler, so you don't miss any steps. I'm going to put that as a free gift on my website, too. So if people need help getting the schedule or thing figured out, I'll I'll have that template up there soon.Mischa Zvegintzov 28:27Love it. That is a great gift. I'll jump in there and take advantage. I'm good at using the tool, but I don't have it. I've told you this myself and like I love the way you have all your little intricacies within it.Mischa Zvegintzov 28:41Cool. So all right, what if somebody kind of what's the next level? So there's that's like that's like bare bones basic get started, like what's next?Molly Mandelberg 28:49The next level usually is people. I sort of work with people who have been seeing clients for a while. So Thrive Academy is an amazing resource for somebody who's just getting started and needs to sort of figure out who their niche is. Start figuring out how to attract clients, how to do free consults, how to start really getting clear on who your people are and how exactly you serve them. Once people are clear on that there's usually a desire, there's often as desire to move from one on one services, to groups and online courses. So I'm really the best resource. Well, I'm the best resource that sounds really cocky. I am great for people who want to move from one on one to groups. and they already know who their clients are one on one and they're ready to systemize their process. or to develop an offering so that people who can't afford their one on one work have somewhere to go. or people who would prefer to be in a community setting learning the stuff from them have somewhere to go. and how to create that process so that it's easy, and so that it's not a pain in the ass to run so that it's easy to sell it. People can just click a button and take it. how to start writing copies so that you can actually sell this to your email list or you can post about it confidently.Molly Mandelberg 30:07So it's the copy and the content creation and the technology to just make it easier to broadcast your message. And I also work with people who are just trying to grow their one on one practice, like, that's definitely still in my wheelhouse. And it takes some showing up, it takes some broadcasting, it takes some marketing. And marketing is kind of a dirty word in the heart centered healer space. But the truth is marketing is where we simply allow our light to shine more broadly out into the world so our people can see it, and find their way to us. And that's an important thing to do, because I think more people on this planet could use support. We need the healers to go big now.Mischa Zvegintzov 30:49Hmm. Two beautiful way you said that, thank you for that. And that is a that's a rough edge for a lot of that healer, mentality space, right? I don't know, mode modality is a better word.Molly Mandelberg 31:01Yeah.Molly Mandelberg 31:02There's a myth in there that says if I have this tool. if I have this modality. if I have this capacity for healing and helping, then I should give it away for free. And I shouldn't, I shouldn't be too big about it, because that won't be humble. So there's a lot of, like I said, limiting beliefs. And there's a lot of programming inside of us that says, Stay quiet, stay small, just do it on the side. And I think that is innately serving less people. And if you're on this earth, to be a healer, to be a leader to be a guide guiding people to greater in their lives, then how dare you not go do that and as big of a way as you possibly can, so more people can receive it.Molly Mandelberg 31:47And to think it's a contribution in some way to not charge for your services, because people can't afford you. People get more healing out of things that they have invested in energetically. And the biggest way we energetically invest in things on this plane is monetarily.Mischa Zvegintzov 32:05Yeah. Molly Mandelberg 32:06Yeah. And if you are doing your work, your healing for free, you have to work some other job in order to make a living. So you're doing less of that healing work. And that does not make sense to me.Mischa Zvegintzov 32:17Hmm. Thank you for that.Molly Mandelberg 32:19Yeah.Molly Mandelberg 32:20Unless you're independently wealthy, wealthy, and then do whatever you want to do. Hopefully do more healing work.Mischa Zvegintzov 32:27Right? Why not? Yeah, do it for free that donation base wherever you want.Molly Mandelberg 32:32Yeah, and I'm not shaming or making wrong, anybody. Everybody's on their own path. I just had a client this week who had a huge breakthrough, and finally pricing her, like private retreats that she hosts on her property that she's been doing for many, many years. and severely undercharging. And she finally had the realization... that she was doing one this past weekend. And it wasn't enough compensation for the energetic thing she was delivering for this couple on her property. And she finally upped her rates. And I was like, very pleased that she came to that realization. Because you think, you know, I see you, I see the value you're delivering, and it is worth more than you're saying it's worth. And would you be willing to be supported by your work in a bigger way, and allow the people coming to you to be supported by your work in a bigger way? Because they're energetically shown up for it? By paying what it's worth?Mischa Zvegintzov 33:31Hmm.Molly Mandelberg 33:32Yeah. I'm on that side of the fence. But everybody gets to do what they want and thenMischa Zvegintzov 33:36Right? No, right or wrong? Like if you're inspired to one or the other, own it go with it, right? I think. So. When you... would you say your like hearts...when you like your avatar, right? The Avatar is a thing that's bantered around a lot. or your ideal client? Or how do you say it in what you're doing?Molly Mandelberg 34:00My ideal client is this spiritual woman entrepreneur who wants to make a bigger difference.  Who's ready to reach more people, and who wants to do that with more freedom and more light and aliveness than they thought that it was possible?Mischa Zvegintzov 34:16How do you feel about the people that are in that space doing what they're doing, trying to grow? Like you're encouraging them to grow, helping them grow, supporting them to grow clearly inspiring them to grow? What about using terms in that space of "heart centered"? Is that a legit term?Molly Mandelberg 34:37I use the term heart centered? Yeah, my, your money machine is one of my online courses, which is all about list creation and how to set that up. I think I'm going to rename it something like email marketing magic or something like that. Yeah, but its marketing is to the heart centered warrior goddess entrepreneurs. Yeah, I use heart centered a lot too.Mischa Zvegintzov 34:59Yeah. What do you call on the men's side of that? Or there isn't a lot of men doing that? Or what do you what do you like?  Go ahead.Molly Mandelberg 35:05I mean, I think spiritual men is clear. I don't know, I haven't spent a lot of time marketing to men. I've had clients who are men.  but I don't cater my marketing to men, because I think there's already a lot of business tools and support out there for men.Mischa Zvegintzov 35:20Hmm, it's interesting.Molly Mandelberg 35:23Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 35:24Um, I wonder too, sometimes if, like, the the, like, the the woman's space is more... or that that feminine energy, I guess, is another term that we would use, right? It's like, it seems to be more robust. Obviously, feminine energy energy is going to be females who are embracing it more is that would you say, looking at market size, those are a lot more women?Molly Mandelberg 36:01I don't know about market size or not? I think more so than looking at the market. It's important to look at who you are and what you're here to do. And I, I tend to resonate more with helping women leaders rise up.Mischa Zvegintzov 36:15No, for sure. And I'm not trying to pigeonhole you and say you strategically went after that. More of I'm asking an honest question of, you're in the space, you're helping healers, you have men clients. I'm just curious if you're opinion...Molly Mandelberg 36:29I think a lot of men in general, are, are more inclined to a different style of marketing than I produce. Yeah. Which is a little bit more. I don't want to make broad generalizations like this. But like, Click Funnels marketing is more geared towards men.Mischa Zvegintzov 36:46Yeah,Molly Mandelberg 36:46yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 36:47Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. I was just interesting as I'm...Molly Mandelberg 36:51yeah. Well, because there are a lot of young men out there who are doing marketing successfully.  And I don't really need to compete with them when I'm serving slightly different audience.Mischa Zvegintzov 37:00Sure.Molly Mandelberg 37:01Yeah. Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 37:02Yeah. Yeah. Mischa Zvegintzov 37:04What's that?Molly Mandelberg 37:05And they do it well.Mischa Zvegintzov 37:07And they do it? Well, absolutely. And if you like, if your preference is to work with females? Great. right. Like I'm not, I think the worst thing to do is go, Well, I really like working with men, but it's the female markets bigger. That's for me in the way I do things could be a futile path. Right?Molly Mandelberg 37:33Right. It has to be something that you are passionate about. And that is true about any creative project, I think. And there are a lot of, I mean, there's a lot of women and men in the personal development space. And I think that the most important thing to pay attention to is who are you? And how will your people resonate with you? And how do you most want to serve them? And then carve your niche out of that? Usually, the best niche we land on? Is us a little while ago? Yeah, us two steps before now. Yeah, that's why we're able to help people because we're a few steps ahead of them on the same path.Mischa Zvegintzov 38:13Yeah, yeah, that's good. Tell me. So you find somebody rolls in. And they're, they're like, they have a robust one on one practice. And, and they're like, Alright, I'm ready to create some evergreen courses. That's another term that's thrown around evergreen or, or go one to many start doing group things. Like what are your steps to get people on that path?Molly Mandelberg 38:40I mean, usually, it's, you know, how much they have created already. figuring out what the best platform is that they want to do that on. If you're selling evergreen courses, or if you're wanting to streamline selling group programs, then having some sort of a sales page to check out cart to accessing a membership site software is going to be a great tool to create more ease with that. There are free ways to do it through, you know, PayPal link, and then Google Drive folder. And then there are more robust platforms like Kajabi, and kartra, and teachable and Thinkific and Podio is a cheaper one. On again, on my website, there's a Resources tab, which has all the software's that I recommend for these different levels of things.Molly Mandelberg 39:27I like Kajabi. And I also think kartra is very comparable and the offerings that it has right now. Yeah, but those are the higher level and for people who are maybe just starting out or who don't want to invest a lot in their first course or program because they don't know if it's gonna work yet. or because they're not sure that's the direction they really fully want to be moving in. There are cheaper options to.  and then once we have the platform, we start digging into the copywriting and what goes on The sales page, how are we going to welcome people and invite them in? How are we going to keep them engaged over the program? And how what do they need to know to show up and get it all done? And starting to build out the framework of how the user experience will be? And what are the pieces of the puzzle that need to get created? And then helping people put those pieces of the puzzle together?Mischa Zvegintzov 40:20Nice!Molly Mandelberg 40:21Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 40:22And depending on how committed someone is to that process, I imagine is how fast that.Molly Mandelberg 40:29How eager they are to create it, and how quickly they set a deadline. Like how soon they want to launch. Like I have one client right now who we've been working for, together for six or so months, and she hasn't really set a launch date yet, because she's still working on the program and wants to figure it out and make it perfect. And I have another client who we're working through like this third thing in two months, because she just wants to get stuff out. Yeah, it really depends on the person and how ripe the idea is.Molly Mandelberg 40:29Yeah, and I suppose how they like to... well I guess it is going to be a matter of trying, trying, trying until you find the till you find out how to connect your message with your...Molly Mandelberg 41:14And you will find that so much faster if you try. Yeah, the one thing I like to remind people of is, you cannot easily cognate your way to clarity. But if you start testing and trying and exploring and actually putting things out in the world, you will get clearer a lot faster.Mischa Zvegintzov 41:36This is a random question. But how many how do you have success selling your tarot cards?Molly Mandelberg 41:43I have sold about 300 decks? But I would say 150 of those were when I launched it. Oh, okay. Yeah. When I did an Indiegogo campaign to fund the initial printing of 500 decks. Yeah. And that was successful. And then I haven't pushed it a whole lot since then. But the people who love the deck, post about it on Instagram and share about it a lot. And I have a friend who's running a whole group program where he's using my deck as the topic for each of his classes. He pulls a card and then teaches about that energetic thing. And then yeah, one of my friends just texted me today that she gave another one of my deck away. So she buys them in five packs now.Mischa Zvegintzov 42:23Nice!Molly Mandelberg 42:24Yeah. So there's people who are really sharing it on my behalf. And then there's been a few podcast episodes where I just talk about my deck and that's helped too.Mischa Zvegintzov 42:32Yeah, cool. Um, when a previous conversation we had, I wrote down some notes van broke down, reclaim your power coincidence shifted relationship with your father, uh, you have a really sort of great...you know...Molly Mandelberg 42:48One of my Bitch slaps from the universeMischa Zvegintzov 42:50Yeah, bitch slaps from the universe. Why don't you? Why don't you tell me about that?Molly Mandelberg 42:54yeah, so I bought my van, three and a half, almost four years ago. And I started traveling it before I built it out. So it actually took me about two and a half years to finish the build inside because I didn't want to stay in one place and finished building it. I would just sort of drive to Colorado and build the bed and drive to Minnesota and put the solar panels on and drive to North Carolina and figure out the wiring of the solar panels. And so I was building it as I traveled around the country and did workshops and attended conferences and had speaking gigs and also just traveled to see friends and family. And on that first trip. Right after I left Oregon where my mom lives. I was about 1000 miles in and my turbo went out. I it was I didn't know it was a turbo yet they tried to fix the resonator. I made it on another 1200 miles. And what's interesting is the second time it went out I was listening to this book called busting loose from the money game. And if you look you have it.Mischa Zvegintzov 43:58I do I have it and I need to read it. Someone gave it definitely read it. Oh my books. What's that?Molly Mandelberg 44:02Read it? Yes. Okay, read it with caution after I tell you this story. So there's a process in that book. Basically, it's telling you how to step out of the matrix and recognize your the infinite being and take your power back from all the trauma and drama of this reality. And it tells you when you do this process, it's very likely that life or this reality, or the universe is going to hand you an opportunity to really walk your talk with this stuff. It's going to give you something to try and convince you that you are human and you're limited and this reality is real, and that you're a victim of it.Molly Mandelberg 44:43And so I'm listening to that process and he's basically telling me that and boom my turbo goes out again, or my van giant turbo dial diesel van goes into limp mode, and I'm on the highway and I'm just barely in Santa Fe New Mexico. So I limp off the highway I make it over a little crest and coast down to where I say there's a shop. And part of me is like, I'm doomed. I'm stranded. This is terrible. What am I going to do? And another part of me is like, wow, that happened real fast. So long story short, it's like $5,500 to fix the van, I don't have it. I, my mother, who I would normally borrow money from in a crisis is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on a ship, teaching her screenwriting class on a cruise crossing the Atlantic, unreachable. My father, who I had never asked for money for before, who's not a financial supportive person historically, in my life, I call him just to let them know where I'm at, and that I'm stranded and that I'm trying to figure this out. And he ends up being able to, like Pay Pal the money from a credit card to make it possible for them to start the repairs. Hmm. And so that's underway.Molly Mandelberg 46:01And I have this epiphany of like, Oh, I could email my list. My list was really small back then. But it was not tiny. And so this is an opportunity, I need money right now, why don't I put a flash sale out to my audience and see what happens. And so I sent an email. And within a few days, a couple people had bought a half price VIP day with me so that we can get a lot of work done on their business.Molly Mandelberg 46:24So those two things made it possible for me to get back on the road, I ended up having an awesome few days in Santa Fe going to 10,000 waves going to meow Wolf, which is why I was passing through Santa Fe in the first place. And my relationship with my dad completely changed. I now saw him as somebody who could support me in some way. And that was a shift, our relationship has been totally different. Since then, we're much closer and much, I don't know, I feel like more seen and held by him in a way that I didn't before that.Molly Mandelberg 46:58And I also got to know that, again, my email list is an amazing resource that, especially when I need to generate money really fast, it's there. And I can do that. And that's the whole point of having an email list and nurturing your audience is so that when you need to, you can press the button and find more, hopefully, create more income right then.Molly Mandelberg 47:21And in the process. This big scary upset of my van is broken and it's new. And I thought I was doing this big adventure. And now I'm screwed. And it's like, no, wait, I took my power back from that. Not only did I get these beautiful silver lining gifts, but I got my van fixed and back on the road and I am the infinite being creating my reality. Look at that. So it was a huge big lesson, which looks like to an outsider, A Bitch Slap From The Universe, but it ended up being a great thing.Mischa Zvegintzov 47:52Yeah, like what was a heavy, potentially gnarly time and probably very stressful in the moment scary in the moment. Yeah. Yeah. To just new, blossoming relationship with Father or new perspective for you and an opportunity for him to maybe do what he hadn't done before in a new way or whatever. And he took advantage, right. Like, how amazing is that? Yeah, seize that opportunity for your dad. God bless him. Right?Molly Mandelberg 48:20Yeah, totally.Mischa Zvegintzov 48:21And then, I think you told me if you don't mind me saying how big your list was at that time, is that al right?Molly Mandelberg 48:27It was like 600 or something.Mischa Zvegintzov 48:30Yeah.  So what was the offer that you made them? Do you remember? And is this...Molly Mandelberg 48:33It was a half price VIP day? So at that time, my VIP days were like 2500, I think. And so I was selling an eight hour package basically for 1250.Mischa Zvegintzov 48:45And this is like, this is post Karen. And so a few years post Karen...Molly Mandelberg 48:50yeah,Mischa Zvegintzov 48:51yeah, so you're at this point, likeMolly Mandelberg 48:53I had started to make a name for myself in the niche that I was in. And there were enough people on my list that were waiting for cheaper opportunity to work with me. Mischa Zvegintzov 49:03(Mischa cackling maniacally)Molly Mandelberg 49:03They took advantage of that, and I don't even do VIP days anymore. But if I did, they would be more than that. For sure.Mischa Zvegintzov 49:09That's amazing. Tell me tell me how do you nurture that moment? Because I think it's so beautiful and poignant and to see your father in a new light?  And you know I have kids you know. and so when they were born I'm like, Oh, I knew aware... knew appreciation for mom and dad right? Oh, my kids are now you know, smelly 10 year olds.  new appreciation for my parents, right whatever. This moment for you. How quickly do you... are you like that was that was a powerful moment? or was this like a year later? Or in the moment? Are you like, "oh my gosh!"?Molly Mandelberg 49:59No. I sobbed a lot when that happened, because in my story in my head was that my dad doesn't have my back in that way that my dad is more of a Brother Uncle figure than like a father who can support me. So, yeah, it was really big in the moment. And I recognized it right away. It was after the fact I think that I noticed my energy toward him had shifted to, over time, in the times that we've hung out since then.Mischa Zvegintzov 50:31Did you try to nurture that in a different way now?Molly Mandelberg 50:35I think I'm more forgiving of him as a person, more in allowance of him. I mean, I've also undergone another, however many years of personal development work and healing on my own to help that relationship. I won't say it was all from that moment. Yeah, he gets he's grown up more in the last few years to.  In his mid 70s.Mischa Zvegintzov 50:56(Mischa babbling for a couple seconds)Molly Mandelberg 50:57It was hard and, and, like challenging, especially when I was younger, and it has become more beautiful and better over time. And that was definitely a turning point for us.Mischa Zvegintzov 51:09It's beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. I can't let this one little thing that you said go by either. Mom was on a cruise. Great writing class. What?Molly Mandelberg 51:21Yeah, my mom is a wildly successful screenwriter. She's had a, like 40 plus year success as a writer. And she teaches she used to teach Screenwriting at UCLA Film School, and she moved to Oregon, when I was like seven. So that was like 28 years ago. So she's been teaching at PSU and out of her living room in Portland, Oregon for the last 20 years or so. And about 12 or 13 years ago, she decided to start doing it as a retreat. So she always takes a transatlantic cruise liner. And there's always at least six or seven days at sea before you get to Europe, and people right and take her class in the morning and write all afternoon on the at sea days. And then everybody goes in frolics around Europe on the days that they're in Port.  Yeah it's a pretty awesome retreat, especially for anybody who wants to be a writer. And if you decide to go on that retreat, tell her I sent you. And I've gone on it five or six times myself, and I always get a lot of writing done.Mischa Zvegintzov 52:20Wow, that is amazing.Molly Mandelberg 52:23That quiz started on the ship, or at least got a lot of creation done the quiz that I made, a lot of that writing happened on the ship. And when I was in my 20s, I was writing a novel a ton of that novel got written on the ship. And last two years ago, I started writing a book about my life as an entrepreneur.Molly Mandelberg 52:43And a lot of that got written on the ship too. It's a really beautiful way to get a lot of writing done because you don't have to cook anything. You don't have to go anywhere. There's nothing to do on a cruise ship. That's actually fun. So you're sort of forced to sit there and get things done.Mischa Zvegintzov 53:02And what a great conduit your mother. sounds like she is. and then also just being in the space with others to where like minded and...Molly Mandelberg 53:09collective consciousness of creation.Mischa Zvegintzov 53:12Beautiful. What do you think? Tell me the top three things you've learned from your mother over the years.Molly Mandelberg 53:20I've learned everything from my mother. I mean, I am most grateful for getting to witness her living a creative life successfully, that she was never someone telling me I should get a real job or I should pigeonhole myself into something that wasn't for me. She's been my biggest champion and supporter of living a very creative and, and conforming lifestyle. Which I'm sure was harder when I was younger and more crazy than the van life is really a stable life for me compared to who I used to be.Molly Mandelberg 53:55Yeah, a writer. I mean, I know so much about story crafting and about the process of letting a project come to life because of her. And most most grateful for the, the way she sees the world.  I was raised believing in the law of attraction. believing in many lives and believing in like a higher consciousness, then religion would give me a view of. and so I'm really grateful for the spiritual understanding that I was raised with. And I think that's shaped me into a lot of the person that I've become because I had those as answers when I was asking questions as a kid.Mischa Zvegintzov 54:34That's unbelievable.Molly Mandelberg 54:35Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 54:37Any tension points with you and your mom over the years?Molly Mandelberg 54:40Oh, sure. Yeah, I mean, we have to rebel against something. It's so much more confusing when you're rebelling against just too much love but yeah...Mischa Zvegintzov 54:48OMG!  that's amazing.Molly Mandelberg 54:50Yeah, she also remarried. When I was six she married very verbally abusive alcoholic who was her high school sweetheart.Molly Mandelberg 54:59So if You didn't see it at first. So a lot of my resistance with my mom was just resenting her for bringing that into our lives. But as I got wiser, I recognize that there was a part of me that chose that as my path so that I could arise from that. And that we were all... in my opinion... we all chose that dynamic coming in so that we could learn what we need to learn from it.  which is pretty far out for some people who have been through trauma to try and recognize like, oh, I chose this, that there's been a lot of freedom and taking responsibility for that part of my life having gone like that. and then getting to choose to evolve from it. And so I stopped blaming her for that being a hard childhood.Mischa Zvegintzov 55:40Hmm. Hmm.Molly Mandelberg 55:41Yeah.Mischa Zvegintzov 55:43You remember, when that shift started taking place?Molly Mandelberg 55:47Yeah, I was like 28. 29. When my business started is when I started seriously, doing a lot of personal development work and healing, and taking my power back and giving up blaming other people for my life. And that was part of that process.Mischa Zvegintzov 56:12What was your entree into that? Was it like Tony Robbins? Or was it like, I mean,Molly Mandelberg 56:18I forget, but I was going, I've been to so many conferences and workshops and read hundreds of personal development books on healing and transformation. So it was the process of all that.Mischa Zvegintzov 56:30Hmm.Mischa Zvegintzov 56:33Just quick question, just for fun, like, somebody who's in that space, right? And we all come to that point, I believe. well, I don't know. Maybe not everybody.  But I definitely come to those points have got to find forgiveness.  Gotta take accountability. gotta... Right? And that's sort of some of those.Molly Mandelberg 56:51Yeah,Mischa Zvegintzov 56:52Bitch slap moments. And I think there's a difference between reading and then applying. Right? So I can keep reading about the things that you're talking about. reading these books, going to these conferences. But like, which, what, you know what I mean, like some people get stuck...Molly Mandelberg 57:10get some of the tools that have worked best for me, the work by Byron Katie, which is books that I've read, "Loving What Is" is a great book by Byron Katie, which covers the work. I had a lot of personal development and growth stuff happened at Thrive Academy, which is a business training program. But there's a lot of transformational development that comes in there. Access Consciousness is a entire modality school of thought that has dramatically changed my life and helped me see my point of view and question it on a regular basis that most of the big shifts in my energetic and like emotional body, life space has happened through Access Consciousness, and I won't go into what that is because it's so hard to define. And it is limitless. But if the words Access Consciousness resonate with you at all, I highly recommend looking it up watching YouTube about it. I'm reading some books. Dain Heer wrote a great book called Being You Changing the world, which is about Access Consciousness. And then,Mischa Zvegintzov 58:11Quick side note. I did a thing called tools for a Good Life Summit, where I brought in all these different modalities. And I reached out to I want to Dane, I was like, I want Dave to be your guide, but whatever he was, he was like, yeah, yeah. Anyway, but go on. So... Molly Mandelberg 58:28Yeah, totally, um... NLP was out as a lot of great healing and tools. And hypnotherapy was hugely transformational. For me too. IMolly Mandelberg 58:35think the main thing is, if you're aware that you could be happier. that your life could be greater. that your relationships could be more deep, or connected or communicative. You are the only one who can change any of that. And so when you start to recognize that... if your life is hard and struggling, and you're willing to take responsibility and be at cause for that changing.  then you become the dowsing rod for the tools you're meant to use to get to where you want to go.Molly Mandelberg 59:03But staying in the stuck and staying in the story. And staying in the woe is me, everything's wrong, is just a continuation of the same wrongness on and on and on. And if you start to say, Okay, I'm willing to take charge now I'm willing to choose to change this, I'm willing to be aware of whatever I need to be aware of to make my life better or greater, or happier or more whole. Or stop being broke and have money now, whatever that looks like. You will b

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Trauma severs the connection between our brains and our bodies, yet so much of Western culture encourages healing only from the chin up. On this week's episode, Kaity Rose Holsapple, a Somatic Yoga Therapist, explains the many reasons why we cannot fully heal from trauma without addressing the healing within our bodies.   Check out the Light After Trauma website for transcripts, other episodes, Alyssa's guest appearances, and more at: www.lightaftertrauma.com Support the Podcast Kaity's Website:  https://www.hertemplehealing.com/  Transcript Alyssa Scolari [00:23]: Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Light After Trauma podcast. I am your host, Alyssa Scolari, and we've got another awesome guest episode today which I'm so excited for. We have with us Kaitlyn Rose-Holsapple. Now through the journey of healing and Kaity's own PTSD, she channeled and created what's called somatic yoga therapy, which I can't wait to learn all about today, and somatic yoga therapy is an integrative healing art form that gently and effectively alchemizes trauma into soul power. She has walked countless individuals through their journeys of healing, trauma, anxiety and depression from within. Kaity supports her clients and students to connect with the innate wisdom and intuition of their bodies. This wisdom is present in every body and helps you to organically heal and live in integrity with your soul. Kaity firmly believes that you are your own healer. The somatic yoga therapy process offers you tools, support, guidance, and space for alchemizing blockages and trauma into your greatest gifts and superpowers, but at the end of the day, only you hold the magic of your own healing potential, and this magical healing force lives inside your body awaiting reclamation. Alyssa Scolari [01:46]: So I am really looking forward to this conversation and again, I'm just going to thank Kaity for her grace in rescheduling multiple times, so hi Kaity. Thank you for being here and thank you for your patience with me. Kaity Rose Holsapple [01:59]: Absolutely. I am so excited that we are able to connect here and now. Alyssa Scolari [02:05]: Me too, and I was doing a lot of reading on your website and just reading your bio, there's so many of these phrases that pop out to me. So of course the first question that I want to ask you is can you give us a little bit of backstory? What exactly led you to the place that you are now? I know you mentioned in your bio that you have PTSD, so if you wouldn't mind like elaborating a little bit, only what you're comfortable with of course. Kaity Rose Holsapple [02:36]: Totally. So really what brought me ... It was kind of like first being brought into the world of spirituality and yoga and then diving more deeply into psychology and trauma healing from there and what really drew me into especially yoga practices was just how disconnected I was from my body and I went through probably most of my life since a pretty early childhood event that I only just started to remember really recently only have these memories come back in the past couple of months. I realized I just have been dissociated and really out of body for so long in my life and yoga is a practice that really started to bring me back home to being more comfortable in my own skin and feeling actually like one of my first in my body moments that I remember was in a restorative yoga class and it was me just accessing my parasympathetic nervous system state but it was the first time I had done that in probably 14 years and I was in awe and shocked and didn't have really the words or language for it at the time but I was like, "Whoa. Something's really powerful here for me to continue to explore." Kaity Rose Holsapple [03:57]: And so that's really what brought me in and then starting to look deeper and connect more deeply with my body is also what started to really help me unravel some of the early childhood trauma and then trauma from later on in life as well and it's been quite a powerful journey. Alyssa Scolari [04:19]: Yeah. You touched on so many things there, but I'm going to jump right to can you actually give the listeners a little idea on what restorative yoga is because friends, if you have not done restorative yoga, I'm going to need you to drop everything and find a class. Because it is surely the best thing ever. So can you please tell us what that is? Kaity Rose Holsapple [04:50]: Yeah. So usually when we think about yoga, we think of a Vinyasa flow class or core power, very heated, fast, lots of breath work and movements and restorative yoga is really quite the opposite of that. A lot of uses of blankets and pillows and props and putting yourself into these really comfortable positions and shapes where you feel super supported and hopefully are able to drop into again that parasympathetic nervous system state, rest and digest and really a big intention of it is to create almost like a floating feeling in the body, just being really held and relaxed and for certain bodies, it's like, "Yes. So, so, so powerful," and you also now that for especially those of us survivors who have more of the hyper vigilant lean, it can be actually more challenging than going to a Vinyasa yoga class because it's so hard for many people to learn how to really slow down and drop in and let themselves be held. It's like one of the hardest things for our nervous systems to do sometimes and so medicinal, so powerful. Alyssa Scolari [06:06]: Yes, and you make an absolute excellent point, which is restorative yoga requires a lot more stillness and that can be as we know very, very difficult for lots of trauma survivors. So while yes, absolutely, I highly recommend restorative yoga, but take that with a grain of salt because you want to be careful to not overwhelm yourself. Sometimes when we are still, it's hard enough to be still but then sometimes when we are still, things come up and we can be flooded with flashbacks or body memories or what have you. So it's also like a really important point and then ... Alyssa Scolari [06:48]: So the other thing that you had said is that you had felt so disconnected from your body and that is really important because that is what trauma causes us to do. Trauma causes us to disconnect and we are essentially walking around with our heads detached from our bodies and I was listening to a podcast interview that was done with Bessel van der Kolk who is the author of The Body Keeps the Score and one of the leading experts in trauma and he said, which really struck a chord with me, that Western culture is so disembodied, and I felt like that it really struck a chord because I'm like, "Yeah. So much about it is like he said from the chin up. It's talk therapy, it's taking medications, and that's it." But we tend to neglect the somatic experiences that are happening in our body which I think are vital for healing. What are some of your thoughts on that? Kaity Rose Holsapple [08:03]: Yeah. I love that you brought in that piece around culture because that feels ... It's so true, it's in the air that we breathe, it's in the food that we eat. In the most part if you're a Westerner listening to this which I would guess a lot of the audience listening to this is from maybe the United States or more similar cultures to the United States, it's like ... That's just the norm for so many of us and [inaudible 00:08:28] is to actually disassociate and to live more in the realm of kind of the thinking mind rather than the feeling and the being midst and so that's part of why yoga has been so healing and is so healing for so many people because it's the opposite of that, and also all these somatic therapies that we see emerging and having so much power nowadays are helping our Western bodies really, really learn how to access the state of healing. Kaity Rose Holsapple [09:04]: Because healing isn't able to happen on that thinking level of consciousness. It's incompatible with the healing state when we're in our thinking mind. It's just not really ... There's not compatibility there, because healing has to happen in the present moment and thinking automatically is taking you out of the present moment. So dropping into the somatic state is actually dropping into a presence practice that helps you be with what's here and now, and that's the only time healing can happen is in the here and in the now. Alyssa Scolari [09:39]: I love that. It's so important. Kaity Rose Holsapple [09:41]: Yeah. Alyssa Scolari [09:42]: So important. So now how is ... Because you created somatic yoga therapy. Can you describe what exactly is that? How is that different from standard therapy? Or standard yoga I should say? Kaity Rose Holsapple [09:59]: Absolutely. Yeah, so yoga therapy in itself is kind of this emerging field. Not a lot of people have heard of it generally, right? And it's this practice of really modifying different aspects of the yoga tradition, including the asana which is what a lot of us think of when we think about yoga, the different postures and shapes we put our bodies in but there's also like a whole world of other depth there as well. We do pranayama breath work practices, energy practices. There's a whole lot there and it's about really customizing those practices for the individual at hand. So rather than you going to a yoga class where the whole group is taught the same sequence, this is like what's really happening, Alyssa, for you and your body today, and creating a specified practice, yoga, meditation, pranayama, asana, et cetera, that's just 100% completely to support you in regaining balance, and it's really, really beautiful, really, really powerful, can sometimes feel a little bit allopathic from my perspective, a little bit like Westernized in some ways and really a huge effort of bringing this into the hospitals and the medical system. Kaity Rose Holsapple [11:21]: Really beautiful, really powerful, and so with somatic yoga therapy, it includes that aspect of yoga therapy but it's dropping a little bit of the ways that we can sometimes label this is the yoga practice for anxiety or this is what you do for high blood pressure and really tuning into actually what each individual body is guiding and needing which actually can look very, very different, even inside those diagnoses of like ... You might have anxiety, I might have anxiety, but actually what we really need might be completely different on more of those subtle levels. So yeah, it's really accessing the felt sense space, that present moment space of connecting with sensations in the body and then supporting the release of blocked energy so that you can regain balance and heal from within, inside out. Rather than again, what our culture can be so addicted to is I feel like crap or shit, sorry if your podcast doesn't like swears. Alyssa Scolari [12:23]: Oh no, be careful on this podcast. It's fine. Kaity Rose Holsapple [12:25]: Okay, great. I feel like shit. Tell me what to do to make it better. Right? Just I need someone to tell me what I need to do. It's dropping that need for outer authority and really learning how to access your own inner guide, your own inner intuition, and the ability that we all have, which is to know what you need. To know what you need in order to heal. Alyssa Scolari [12:51]: I love that so much. It's important because everybody's healing is so individualized. Like you said, we both might have anxiety but what we might need to heal may be completely different. But I also love that because it's very empowering, and trauma often leaves us feeling disempowered. So it's truly taking your healing into your own hands, and knowing that you already have the answers to the questions that you have and the support that you seek is all within you. Kaity Rose Holsapple [13:27]: Yeah. And this is really hard for someone who's survived trauma, right? Because you ask someone who's been through a traumatic experience even the question of what do you want to do today or what do you like, and sometimes it's so hard to answer those simple questions of making those choices of what do I like, what do I want to do, because we can be really fragmented from that wisdom. Again, that comes back to that sense of being more in our mental body rather than in our physical body which is the realm that can actually tell us what we want, what we like, what feels good, what needs to happen. You can't do that from the mental space. It just can't happen from that brain space. Alyssa Scolari [14:07]: Right, we need to be mind-body connected. We need to be absolutely grounded in our bodies in order to be able to figure that out and answer so many of those questions that ... And those questions are important when it comes to friendships, relationships, just social interactions in general, but even other things like job interviews. One of the first questions that we ask people when we are interviewing them for a position is, "Tell me about yourself." But when you have a traumatized individual who has been walking around just in the mental space and has really done no work somatically or in their bodies and is disconnected, how can we expect them to answer that question well? So this is so important for all facets of functioning I think. Kaity Rose Holsapple [14:55]: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Yeah, well that really points to just how connected every single area of our life is. We cannot compartmentalize things in the way again that our culture has really trained us to do for so long. It's like, "I'm going to have my work life here and then my romantic life and then here's my friend life," and really it's just like how you show up in these different areas, it's all so, so connected with your wiring, with your nervous system and it's really powerful to start really looking and doing the work around and in these different realms. Alyssa Scolari [15:34]: Yes. It's incredible. It's so powerful. Now you mentioned ... I cannot remember if this was the exact phrase that you used, but something ... You said something like ... Was it blocked energies? Kaity Rose Holsapple [15:48]: Yep. Alyssa Scolari [15:50]: Can you explain, can you elaborate on what that is? Kaity Rose Holsapple [15:55]: Yes. Alyssa Scolari [15:56]: Because I feel like that's very important. Kaity Rose Holsapple [15:58]: So let's talk about this because it is really important. This is like totally how I see things now, it's like ... Blocked energies, you can think of trauma as like this spectrum with most severe being like actual diagnosis, like PTSD, CPTSD and just like the very intense symptoms that you think of with trauma, like flashbacks and very, very obvious forms of dissociation, depersonalization, those sort of aspects, right? And then we have all of these other different forms of trauma that show up in really, really subtle and sometimes a little insidious forms and I would say the spectrum is the spectrum of blocked energy. Where trauma and blocked energy can really be synonymously used because what is happening when there's a trauma in the system, in your energy body, there becomes kind of a knot that happens where the energy ties itself up and is no longer flowing, so there is stagnation that happens, and when that happens, of course you're cut off from your own energy flow, so there's not as much feeling of aliveness, sensation even. This can create numbness, a cutting off from different areas of the body. Kaity Rose Holsapple [17:19]: Also just feeling like really lethargic, really tired, and so looking at and thinking of trauma as not just something that happens in the physical body but actually something that's really affecting the energetics, and a great way of looking at this is also ... If we come back to what happens in the breath when there's then trauma and how our breath physiologically starts to change because the breath is kind of the gateway between the physical and the energetic body because there's a connection here between we can have conscious control of our breath if we just all take a deep breath right here and now, you can choose to consciously do that, and you know that you're always going to be breathing. Even if you're not telling yourself to, right? So there's this really deep connection between the breath, which in yoga is really deeply connected with the energy body, with their prana, life force, and the subconscious mind which is the realm that stores traumas and so we just think about in a traumatic experience, for example something shocking happens and you gasp and your breath is kind of stuck up here and then that's kind of how the energy can start to get stuck and all of a sudden, or actually over quite a period of time, we develop patterns such as just chest breathing and no longer have access to a deep diaphragmatic breath anymore. Kaity Rose Holsapple [18:47]: And so that's kind of a more physiological way we can start to see the energy body being really affected is just by looking at changes that happen in breath and breathing, but also it's happening in this really subtle way that's not perceptible really to the human eye but is really connected with felt sense, sensations, and what you notice as sensation in your body. And so starting to work with somatics is also taking you deep into the realm of energetics and the energy body in a pretty powerful, really, really powerful way. Alyssa Scolari [19:21]: Yeah. Yeah, so this process basically goes hand and hand with energy work. Because I hear this phrase so often, right? Energy work, energy work, and I feel like it's now becoming more and more linked to trauma. It's all energy. Alyssa Scolari [19:37]: Now I want to take this one step further and ask you your thoughts on when we have chronic energy blocks, you named some of the ways in which that can show up, but ... And I feel like I already know the answer to this because you also ... I heard the podcast interview that you had done about the link between rosacea and trauma. So is it your opinion or your belief that when these energy blocks become chronic and constant, they can lead into more serious illnesses, autoimmune diseases, things like that? Kaity Rose Holsapple [20:21]: Mm-hmm [affirmative]. Yes. Yeah, so it's really fascinating to look at this. In yoga, we have something called the kosha model which is talking about the different bodies. Like we have our physical body, we have this physical body that is blood, muscle, bone, skin, and then there are other bodies as well, like one of which is the breath body which holds your prana, your energy, and then you also have your mind, the body of your mind which is composed of your thoughts and your emotions and you also have the body of your beliefs and your belief system which you may or may not know, those of you listening, like some of those are not always what we would consciously want and choose to believe. We have beliefs that are really, really rooted in our childhood, especially the first seven years of our lives and our culture and things that we might not actually really want to believe in the subconscious mind are beliefs stored up, right? And so all of these bodies are really always intermingling and influencing one another. Kaity Rose Holsapple [21:28]: So an example of this is I can have this belief, I might not even know I have it. I could have this belief let's say for example around what a body is supposed to look like, what a beautiful female body is supposed to look like. And it might not be consciously what I think beauty is, but I have this belief that I'm only beautiful if I am only 120 pounds. It's like something that doesn't even necessarily have to make a lot of cognitive sense, but we have these. So let's say - Alyssa Scolari [22:01]: Right, it's not something that has to be backed by science. It's just if that's your belief, it's your belief. Kaity Rose Holsapple [22:06]: Right yeah. And you might not even really know it's there, which I think is also something really, really interesting. Because these beliefs that we have really run our lives in unconscious ways until we start to really see them. That's one of the definitions of yoga is bringing the unconscious to your consciousness, and once things become conscious, that's healing in itself, right? Just being able to see that okay, this is here, and it's not exactly in line with what my soul really believes, but it's here. This is part of my conditioning, right? Kaity Rose Holsapple [22:39]: So we have this belief, let's use the one that I gave an example on, which is like I'm only beautiful if I am 120 pounds or something kind of specific and based around your body like that. And then connected with that belief, there's all of the thoughts and emotions that we have, which might be looking at yourself in the mirror and feeling shame. It might be those negative thoughts that cycle in your head, all the ways that you tell yourself you're not good enough, you're not beautiful enough. A lot of I feel more New Age spirituality works in this level of affirmation, where we just start to tell ourselves, "I am beautiful. I love myself." But again, it stays in that mental level, so it's never really becoming true and real in your body, in your bones. Alyssa Scolari [23:30]: Right, we're never really absorbing it. Kaity Rose Holsapple [23:34]: Yeah. Exactly, even though those affirmations can feel really helpful in the moment, it's not actually getting to the root of what's really there. Alyssa Scolari [23:42]: Thank you, [inaudible 00:23:43], I am a little bit ... I'm not anti-affirmations, like yes please hype yourself up, but I am just like, "It's not enough." And I like that you're saying that because when we sort of say things like, "Well you just need to do your affirmations," I think it takes away from it makes people feel like, "Oh, what's wrong with me? Like I'm doing my affirmations, I literally have you are beautiful on my mirror and I say it every time when I wake up," and it's like it's not enough because you're not fully integrating it. Like it's just in your brain and then it kind of leaves. So I love that you said that, but you go on. I didn't mean to totally interrupt. Kaity Rose Holsapple [24:24]: No, I love that too, and it's like also ... What about all of the parts inside of you that don't believe that and don't feel that way and now you're just kind of overriding those and not really attending to what's really there, like what's the trauma there that those parts are really holding? Because there's a ... Even though it feels shitty, there's a wisdom to those thoughts. Like there's something in there that's actually really important to extract and to move towards, I really believe that. So we have this level of belief, then we have this level of thought and emotion that can manifest from our beliefs, right? So the beliefs are very, very deep, very, very unconscious, and then they can start to manifest into thoughts and into emotion which directly affects the energetics of the body. Think of the last time you had a negative thought about yourself, like, "I look ugly," or whatever that thought is for you, it's going to change how you're breathing. It changes your breath patterns. Kaity Rose Holsapple [25:23]: So that's again a more obvious way that the energy starts to change. But it's also going to change the posture, like how you hold yourself, which again is going to affect the flow of chi, the flow of energy through the body. It's going to affect the felt sense, you might have this heavy, dropped feeling in your belly which again that's a way the energy body is communicating to you is through sensations. And then eventually years of me holding my body in this slumped position of this energy communicating in this way and me not actually being able to discharge it, being able to let it flow through me, being able to affirm and acknowledge it but in a way that allows it to fully, fully complete what it's trying to do rather than what we commonly do is, "I don't like this, eew, icky, I'm going to move away from it and try to shove it down." Right? Alyssa Scolari [26:20]: Exactly. I'm going to [inaudible 00:26:22]. Yeah. Kaity Rose Holsapple [26:23]: Yeah, yeah. It's what we are commonly doing. And again, this might not be conscious. You might know consciously that that's not super great for you and we still do it and it's just like a habit. So after long periods of time of these avoidance patterns, the energy gets stuck in these different regions and can manifest as skin issues, digestive issues, chronic pain. Pain is hugely connected with this. Anyone who has chronic low back pain, I've struggled a lot with jaw pain. Like this is just so rooted and connected here, and then of course other forms of disease and imbalance start to form as well. So that's kind of like the pathway of how this can happen is starting with for example a traumatic experience that imprints this really deep belief. That belief starts to change how we think and how we feel inside, which influences the sensations and the breath which influences our body. Alyssa Scolari [27:25]: Okay. Okay. That makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, and I 100% believe that. I was just like ... I know at least for the work that I do, every single person who comes into my office, it's so ... I love the somatic work. Like it is so important because yeah, I do believe that so much pain, chronic pain, back pain. Like I had a lot of jaw pain too. I actually went to the dentist a few months back and the dentist was like, "Do you grind your teeth?" And I was like, "No." And I was so detached from my body, I was very stressed out, we had just moved, and I couldn't even feel. I was so out of touch with my body. In the six months between my dentist appointments, I had been grinding my teeth so much that I actually have permanent damage and I didn't even know but the second that he said something to me, I was sitting in his chair, had not even left the office yet, I felt all the pain and all the tension in my jaw. And I'm like, "Wow." Alyssa Scolari [28:41]: So I think that's just like a great example of how disembodied we can become without even truly knowing it, which is why this information and this practice I think has to be very, very intentional, all the time. Not just when you're feeling extra down that day. Would you agree with that? Kaity Rose Holsapple [29:02]: Yeah. Absolutely, and a huge part of the somatic yoga therapy practice is building relationship and awareness of your body. Even just ... If you're wanting to get started with more of this work, doing a daily body scan practice where you're just making contact with all of the different areas of the body, that's really, really helpful for this part of the nervous system that ... Like your story, not even realizing how much tension you hold in your jaw, it's like ... There's a reason the nervous system doesn't want to go there and it's because maybe there's something there that feels a little bit like scary or too much or it's holding onto something, right? And so there are reasons that we check out from these different areas of the body, even ones that are causing us pain and oftentimes that quality of dissociating from different body regions is really connected with the pain receptors and they get louder and louder so that we start to listen and hear what they're really trying to say. So if someone who has chronic pain comes to me, I know that there's often also been chronic numbness before that pain even started. Alyssa Scolari [30:14]: Yes. Yes. You put that so beautifully. Now you also mentioned this concept, soul power. What does that mean? Like can you explain that? I love it, like soul power, yes, but what exactly does that mean? Kaity Rose Holsapple [30:34]: Yeah. That is you living in alignment with the strength and the truth and the energy that only comes from the space of your soul. So this is beyond any trauma that you have experienced, this is your essence that is untouchable, can't get sick, can't die, lives on forever. This is the part of you that is always 100% pure, sparkly, bright. Like it's your youness, everybody's soul is completely like a unique expression. I like to think of people's different souls as really connected with different plants or different spaces in nature that have ... There's different qualities to them, right? Like someone might have a very waterfall, sweet, nourishing, grounded soul. Someone might have more of a fiery quality in them, and so it's unique, it's connected with your personality, but it's beyond that and trauma severs your connection with that. Severs your ability for your soul, the energy gets blocked, and then that can no longer flow in your body and so what often happens for traumatized individuals, it's not that your soul ever goes anywhere. It's not that you lose it, though that's something that we feel right? If you've ever had that sense of soul searching or really deep longing to feel like yourself again, like that's what you are longing for. Kaity Rose Holsapple [32:03]: What happens with trauma is that the soul can become displaced from the body and it kind of starts to just hover outside of the body or outside of the energy field because trauma is so connected with death experiences or feeling like, "Oh my god, I am going to die. I think I'm going to die here." It doesn't matter what type of trauma it was, there's some sort of fear for your life that happens and just like in death, the soul leaves the body. So you might not actually have died, you might not have actually died, but some processes and parts of you think that maybe you had or you're about to or it's going to happen and in order to protect this space inside of you that is the most powerful, beautiful and whole aspect of yourself, it's an act of protection that gets kind of pushed away. There's a lot of different reasons for that. Kaity Rose Holsapple [32:56]: It might feel like it's really scary to be my full soulful self. It might feel like too intense in some ways and so the soul becomes kind of disconnected or dissociated. We build up walls and then forget that it's even actually really there but a huge part of the somatic yoga therapy process is detangling these energetic blocks so that the energy can start to move more freely in the body, discharging energy that's just not yours. Like it's not really in alignment with you and who you are, it's heavy, it's stagnant, it's like ... Maybe it belongs to past versions of yourself, but it's not your present moment's energy, and then when there's more of that space and flow inside of you, the soul gets to come back home, and all of a sudden, you feel like, "Wow. I'm having these moments where I really feel like me. I really feel alive, I really feel like myself." Kaity Rose Holsapple [33:51]: And that is the process of alchemizing trauma into soul power and bringing your soul back [inaudible 00:33:59] in an embodied way where you don't have to meditate, which meditation can actually be kind of a way of dissociating a lot of the time. When we meditate, we meditate to access that soul space. In order to access that sense of feeling one with the universe, whatever language you use, but through this process, that becomes just how you live your life. You feel connected with that space and you don't have to go anywhere in order to do that. It just becomes woven into your embodied experience. Alyssa Scolari [34:31]: Yeah. This is incredible. I'm learning so much, so I have to ask, so the somatic yoga therapy. Is that specifically a different type of training or is it that you became certified in yoga or yoga or yoga therapy and then sort of developed your somatic yoga therapy? How did that work? Kaity Rose Holsapple [34:57]: Yes, yeah. Yeah, so I did undergo my yoga therapy training, and during that process, had this pretty ... Actually probably at the end of this process, had a really intense traumatic experience, a sexual trauma with a former colleague, a former friend of mine and it wasn't like the first time I had been sexually violated by any means, but it was the first conscious time that I had where I was really, really conscious and aware of what was happening and so that really launched me into this journey of healing PTSD which all of that experience very much triggered my early childhood stuff that I had not really ... Kaity Rose Holsapple [35:37]: I hadn't had the resources or tools to look at up until that point, and so that experience really launched me, even though I was already working with trauma, from this more allopathic or yoga therapy lens, I've been working in that way, this launched me deeper into the world and realm of somatics because that was what was working for me and that was what was healing me. So somatic yoga therapy really came from that process of me doing my own healing journey and there are different forms of somatic yoga therapies that I have had experience with from somatic experiencing to sensory motor to Hakomi and I think they're all so beautiful and so powerful, and for me, bringing the yoga therapy piece in was like the missing link there and it's just what my body was naturally doing because I am such a spiritually inclined person and I really believe that that ... Like your soul is your greatest resource for healing. That's the one in you who can digest fricking anything that's happened. No matter how heavy it is, that's the part of you that can handle it. No other parts are able to be with the traumas in that same way and so yeah. Kaity Rose Holsapple [36:57]: That's really where this work was born from is just my own body started to create it and I was already working with clients and so I just started naturally bringing in what was arising and unfolding for me and it was having such great results that I just continued and now I'm training others in this process of somatic yoga therapy. I have a whole yearlong training that I do for people to connect with this work more deeply and learn how to weave into their healing modalities, whatever it is that they're doing. Whether that's yoga therapy, yoga teaching, psychotherapy, massage therapy, it really is so complementary to so many different healing modalities and that's what I'm doing now is training others to help get this work out there. Alyssa Scolari [37:45]: That is amazing. So that's ... I mean one, thank you very much for sharing and for being so vulnerable because it's like that is ultimately, and while we never wish trauma of any nature on anyone, it's like that catapulted you into now being this driving force for helping, now you're training people who can then go on to help other people and that is so empowering. So empowering. So you are ... You're training other people and are you also working with people one-on-one, hosting retreats? What else is there to that? Kaity Rose Holsapple [38:29]: Yeah, so I do work with people one-on-one and do somatic yoga therapy work for helping my clients digest trauma into more soul power and also access deeper states of pleasure and purpose and meaning in their lives after a traumatic experience because that can feel so severed. Definitely have a draw and attract a lot of women who have survived sexual traumas and want to start really metabolizing those so that they can feel more empowered in their sexuality again, more connected with their sexuality and with their essential self because that is so important for so many women and so disconnected, just like we talked about you with the jaws, like we can think of the same area sexually and there's a lot of numbness, there's a lot of pain, there's a lot of shutdown. So I do work one-on-one with people in that region, in that area, and then yeah, I run retreats and workshops and have a lot of different free resources too on my website that I would invite any listeners who kind of feels connected with this work to check that out. There is a free inner sanctuary practice which is a whole I think 45 minute practice where I guide you through some of the foundations of what we're doing in somatic yoga therapy and more of just like you get to experience it within, inside your own self, so that's on my website. Alyssa Scolari [40:03]: And your website is hertemplehealing.com, right? Kaity Rose Holsapple [40:08]: Yes. Yep. You got it. Alyssa Scolari [40:10]: Okay. I got it. Fantastic. So for the listeners out there, you can just go ahead and you know what to do. Go right to the show notes and you will find the link there. Strongly encourage you to check that out. I will definitely be utilizing all of the resources on there because I love this topic and I love this stuff and I am very passionate about it. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. It is crucial for trauma survivors. It's so crucial, so thank you, thank you, thank you for your time today. Kaity Rose Holsapple [40:45]: Thank you for having me on, Alyssa. I'm just delighted to have talked with you. Alyssa Scolari [40:50]: Thank you. Alyssa Scolari [40:52]: Thanks for listening everyone. For more information, please head over to lightaftertrauma.com, or you can also follow us on social media, on Instagram. We are @lightaftertrauma and on Twitter it is @lightafterpod. Lastly, please head over to patreon.com/lightaftertrauma to support our show. We are asking for five dollars a month, which is the equivalent to a cup of coffee at Starbucks. So please head on over again, that's patreon.com/lightaftertrauma. Thank you and we appreciate your support.

Today, we're embarking on a journey to the far north of Europe. To a place of summer midnight sun and the magical northern lights of the winter. The Land of a Thousand Lakes. A place where saunas are as common as cafes. And, with just a few days to go until Christmas, I imagine it's a hive of activity given that Lapland in the north of the country is the home of Santa Claus and his elves. Of course, I'm talking about Fantastic Finland.And I'm joined by two wonderful guests today to help bring this diverse and beautiful country to life. First, we'll hear from the actress Tracy-Ann Oberman. You'll know Tracy-Ann from shows like EastEnders, Friday Night Dinner, It's A Sin and Ridley Road. She has a special connection to Finland, which she'll tell us about when she shares her Finnish travel diaries, coming up.And then, we're joined by Finland Destination Expert, and food and travel writer, Bre Graham, who has travelled extensively around the country, and shares so many brilliant different recommendations and tips, for places to visit, stay, eat, and what to bring home in your suitcase. Tracy-Ann Oberman's Destination Recap:Temppeliaukio Church, HelsinkiRestaurant Nasinneula, TampereMuseum Centre Vapriikki, TampereSuomenlinna, HelsinkiMoomin World, Naantali Bre's Recap: Löyly Helsinki sauna, HelsinkiGoodio Chocolate Factory, VantaaNolla Restaurant, Helsinki Finnish LaplandLake Inari, SápmiAlbina Ravintola & Viinibaari, Kallio, HelsinkiSt George Hotel, Helsinki Lapland Hotel, HelsinkiIf you would like to read more about Finland head to visitfinland.com. If you enjoyed today's episode don't forget to subscribe. And come and follow me on Instagram - I'm @hollyrubenstein. Have a very Happy Christmas and thanks so much for listening. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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