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How often have you wondered 'how did my ancestor feel about....?' I bet it's a lot! But have you ever considered how your ancestors thought about emotions? Or whether our emotional reactions in the past were different? Perhaps our ancestors had emotions which we no longer have words to express? This week #TwiceRemoved delves into the fascinating world of our ancestors emotions with historian Matthew Roberts. Love the show? Help support me to keep producing episodes by treating me to a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories Find all resources at: https://genealogystories.co.uk/matthew-roberts

What is queer history? Why is it important to family history? How do you go about finding unheard stories? What clues might we have to queer identities? How do we navigate the danger of applying modern labels on the past? To find out more and access all resources mentioned, check out https://www.genealogystories.co.uk/justin-bengry Love the show? Help support me to keep producing episodes by treating me to a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories

Travel back in time to the year 1911 and discover the women that fought for our right to vote. Plus get tips and tricks for finding the suffragist ancestors hiding in your family tree. Tara Morton, of the Mapping Women's Suffrage 1911 project, will join me to delve into the lives of our suffragist ancestors. Who were they? How did they campaign? What clues did they leave behind? Find out more and access links to all resources mentioned at https://www.genealogystories.co.uk/tara-morton Love the show? Help support me to keep producing episodes by treating me to a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories

#TwiceRemoved takes a virtual trip to the Emerald Isle with Irish Genealogy expert David Ryan. Alongside family history tips and techniques, I quiz David about the history of Ireland and how that impacts the hunt for our Irish ancestors. Find out more and access links to all resources mentioned at https://www.genealogystories.co.uk/david-ryan Love the show? Help support me to keep producing episodes by treating me to a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories

#TwiceRemoved guest Mark Crail returns by popular demand! This time to give a whirlwind tour of the history of Trade Unions. From early existence alongside Friendly Societies to the 1970s Miners Strikes. Was your ancestor a trade union member? How can you find out? What records might you discover? For all resources see https://genealogystories.co.uk/markcrail-tradeunions/ (https://genealogystories.co.uk/markcrail-tradeunions/) To support the show, treat me to a coffee (and help pay for recording and hosting costs) at: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

No matter whether your ancestors appeared on stage, worked behind the curtain or watched performances from their seats...the theatre was a big part of their lives. Find out about the entertainment enjoyed by your ancestors in the 18th Century. Just how long were theatre shows? How did you get your tickets, where did you sit and what would you have watched? If you enjoy #TwiceRemoved support the show over at https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories) For more information on this show and details of all resources mentioned, see https://www.genealogystories.co.uk/michelleholman (https://www.genealogystories.co.uk/michelleholman)

Expert genealogist Emma Jolly shares her Black Country ancestor discoveries! Find out about this important industrial area of Britain. Where is it? Why was it called the Black Country? What were the lives of the people that lived there like and what stories did they leave behind? Find out more and access links to all resources mentioned over at www.genealogystories.co.uk/emmajolly Enjoyed this episode? Support the show here: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

In an episode packed with writing tips, author Nathan Dylan Goodwin joins me to share his experiences as a genealogy crime fiction writer. Creator of the much loved forensic genealogist Morton Farrier, Nathan explains the inspiration behind his stories - from newsletters from the National Archives to the Golden Gate killer. Nathan expertly weaves real research practices into his fast-paced novels and was an early adopter of DNA analysis. Find out how he creates realistic stories whilst maintaining reader's interests. For details of all resources mentioned see www.genealogystories.co.uk/nathandylangoodwin If you love #TwiceRemoved please consider supporting the show by treating me to a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

Explore life at home during WW2 with historian and author, Naomi Clifford. Delving into the diaries of those that lived through the Blitz, we'll be exploring the reality behind the propaganda. Just how 'in it together' were we? How did people feel about the war? How did experiences vary depending on your wealth and where you lived? If you enjoyed the show treat me to a cup of Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories) Find out more about Naomi Clifford and all resources mentioned at www.genealogystories.co.uk/naomiclifford

Historian and creator of HistFest, Rebecca Rideal joins me to discuss a history of witches! From the Wicked Witch of the West to Sabrina the Teenage Witch, there's no denying that witches are ingrained in popular culture. But what exactly is a witch? What types of people were accused of witchcraft? What were the consequences of such an accusation? We've all heard of the Salem witch trials, but were their similar trails on the UK and Europe? How did beliefs and attitudes towards witchcraft change over time? Why are witches such a prominent feature in pop culture? Find out more about Rebecca and see a list of all resources mentioned at www.genealogystories.co.uk/rebeccarideal Support the show by treating me to a cup of coffee at https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories

How did our female ancestors cope with periods, childbirth, menopause? How did they understand their own bodies? How did they feel about childbirth? What was their lived experiences like, compared to ours today? On this episode of https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/twiceremoved (#TwiceRemoved), Dr Sara Read helps me to explore the lives of our Early Modern female ancestors. Find out more about Sara and all resources mentioned in this episode at www.genealogystories.co.uk/sararead Support #TwiceRemoved by purchasing me a cuppa coffee at https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

Sylvia Valentine discusses smallpox, inoculation and those that opposed compulsory vaccination in this highly topical episode of #TwiceRemoved. What was smallpox? How dangerous was it? How was inoculation developed and how risky was it?! How did the government try to enforce inoculation and how did our ancestors react? For more information on resources mentioned in this episode please see www.genealogystories.co.uk/sylvia-valentine If you'd like to support TwiceRemoved you can do so by treating me to a cup of coffee at https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

Discover the funeral traditions of your 18th Century ancestors. How did they evolve and how do they compare to today's practices? How did our ancestors find an undertaker - and how did undertakers come about? Dr Dan O'Brien, visiting research fellow at the University of Bath, digs into the history of funerals and undertakers. Find out more on www.genealogystories.co.uk/dan-obrien Support the show by buying me a cup of KoFi at: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

What was life like for disabled or differently abled people during the Industrial Revolution? How would they have considered themselves and their disabilities? How did others consider disabled people? In this episode (recorded live) Professor David Turner from the University of Swansea helps us to explore the lives of our disabled ancestors during the Industrial Revolution. Discover the wide range of views and attitudes about disability and how you might start to uncover more about the lives of your own disabled ancestors. This episode was recorded live. To follow future episodes live and ask your questions subscribe and hit the notification bell at www.youtube.com/c/GenealogyStories See www.genealogystories.co.uk/professor-david-turner for more information. Support the show by treating me to a cup of coffee at https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

Historian Laura Newman shares the work of Addressing Health, a project dedicated to examining and exploring the health of Victorian and Edwardian postal workers. Essential viewing for any one with a Post Office ancestor AND anyone interested in the history of occupational health. From sick days to TB fears. Find out more on www.genealogystories.co.uk/addressing-health for links to all the resources mentioned in the video. Visit https://addressinghealth.org.uk/ (https://addressinghealth.org.uk/ )to explore this amazing project! Support the show by treating me to a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

Anne Lister was a diarist who famously recorded her intimate relationships with women (amongst many many other things). Subject of the brilliant BBC Drama #GentlemanJack, in this interview I talk to the Packed With Potential Project about their work to decipher Anne's diaries and to discover the 'real Anne'. Find out more at www.genealogystories.co.uk/packed-with-potential Visit Packed With Potential at www.packedwithpotential.org Resources Mentioned:

Historian Sarah Murden takes us back in time to explore our Georgian ancestors. What was life like for our working ancestors? Why was there such a big divide between poor and rich? How long did they live and why was everyone so obsessed with getting married? Sarah answers all this and more! You can find out more about Sarah and her books at www.genealogystories.co.uk/Sarah-Murden If you enjoyed this episode, why not treat me to a cup of coffee at https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories)

Julia Laite (of Birkbeck University) investigates the lives of our female domestic servant ancestors in the late 19th / early 20th century. Together we discuss their hopes and dreams, the struggles they faced and the various ways in which they were all too often exploited. What were the lives of working class women like? How did they change over time? More information about Julia and this episode can be found at www.genealogystories.co.uk/julia-laite Julia's brilliant book, The Disappearance of Lydia Harvey can be found in all good bookshops.

My guest Paul Couchman serves up a delicious slice of Regency history in this episode! We explore what our Georgian ancestors ate (from street food to French cuisine), how they cooked, wrote up and shared their recipes. You can find out more about Paul (including links to sites mentioned within the episode) at: https://my.captivate.fm/www.genealogystories.co.uk/Paul-Couchman (www.genealogystories.co.uk/Paul-Couchman) You can visit Paul at https://my.captivate.fm/www.paulcouchman.co.uk (www.paulcouchman.co.uk)

A history of Britain's resurrection men. Suzie Lennox delves into the dark world of the body snatchers. Who were these criminals? How much was a body worth? How did they go about stealing the corpses? How worried were people about their loved ones remains? What theft prevention methods did people employ? Suzie answers all these questions and more! WARNING: This episode contains some dark humour, discussion of dead bodies and dissection. It is not for the squeamish. You can find out more about this episode at: www.genealogystories.co.uk/suzie-lennox You can find out more about body snatching at Suzie's website: www.diggingup1800.com

Imagine your job is so dangerous that you are at risk of loosing a limb. But instead of trying to implement safety measures, your employer starts manufacturing artificial limbs! That's exactly the world our ancestors inhabited. My guest Mike Esbester (co-lead on the Railway Work, Life & Death project) delves into railway ancestors as we explore what life was really like working on the railways. Resources: www.genealogystories.co.uk/mike-esbester http://www.railwayaccidents.port.ac.uk/ (http://www.railwayaccidents.port.ac.uk/ )

The British Museum was fortified against attack. Manchester was in the hands of the Chartists. Over 3 million people signed a petition fighting for the right for all men to vote. Chartism is about more than a few blokes waving around a petition. It's a vital part of British history. Find out more with expert Mark Crail. To view that extra special 30 minutes, delving into the lives of the Chartists & providing great tips for family historians - please visit: ko-fi/genealogystories. The extra session can be purchased for the price of a cuppa coffee. I take a latte, thanks! For more information see: www.genealogystories.co.uk/mark-crail Resources Mentioned: https://www.chartistancestors.co.uk/ (https://www.chartistancestors.co.uk/) Chartism: A New History by Malcom Chase

Expert genealogist, Judith Batchelor shares stories from her family tree - including the discovery that one of her ancestors lost his arm in a terrible accident. Using her years of experience, Judith (best known as Genealogy Jude) carefully unpicked the events in the lives of this ancestor - and many more. Listen for fantastic stories and lots of genealogy hints and tips. Resources:Support the podcast by buying me a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) You can find out more about Judith Batchelor by visiting: www.genealogystories.co.uk/judith-batchelor and www.genealogyjude.co.uk

Dr Sophie Therese Ambler & Dr Nick Barratt spill the beans on just how bad King John really was! In this medieval episode of TwiceRemoved, my guests share their expertise on this fascinating period in history. We chat about everything from peasant rebellions to battlefield medicine. More Info:Support the podcast by buying me a cup of coffee: https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) Visit www.genealogystories.co.uk/twice-removed-medieval-history for more information. Link to Song of Simon de Montfort: England's First Revolutionary https://bit.ly/3uOe8jD (https://bit.ly/3uOe8jD) Link to The Restless Kings by Nick Barratt: https://amzn.to/3kHHStQ (https://amzn.to/3kHHStQ) You can find Nick Barratt at https://www.stick.org.uk/ (https://www.stick.org.uk/) and Sophie Therese Ambler at https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/history/about/people/sophie-therese-ambler (https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/history/about/people/sophie-therese-ambler) #TwiceRemoved #Medieval #History

Expert genetic genealogist, Michelle Leonard (Genes & Genealogy) shares amazing DNA discoveries and family history stories. From identifying the bodies of WWI soldiers to personal feelings on a grandmother that died tragically young. Michelle's stories give a fresh perspective on using DNA for family history. Resources: Support the podcast & buy me a cup of coffee https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) http://www.genealogystories.co.uk/a-fresh-look-at-dna-for-genealogy (www.genealogystories.co.uk/a-fresh-look-at-dna-for-genealogy) https://www.facebook.com/genesandgenealogy (https://www.facebook.com/genesandgenealogy) Podcast Notes: [00:35] I ask Michelle what got her started with tracing her family history Michelle explains how she lost her grandparents before she was born or during her infancy. She grew up listening to stories about these people she could never meet. [01:58] Michelle tells us about an incredible discovery of forgotten photographs and her uncanny resemblance to an ancestor. We talk about the importance of photographs and memorabilia. [06:00] What led you to using DNA for genealogy? Michelle explains her work on a WWI genealogy project, trying to identify the bodies within a mass grave. She explains how different combinations of historical research techniques worked together to try to identify the soldiers. [10:25] Michelle shares how she learnt about DNA through using it in earnest. Including, Y-DNA and mitrochrondial DNA. [14:20] I explain the things that I found most difficult when I started using DNA to investigate my family tree. Michelle re-iterates the importance of continually re-reading or re-watching information about DNA and continually using it in practice. [17:14] Michelle talks about the soldiers that haven't yet been identified and the on-going work to ID them. [18:07] I share a WWI story about a Pither family that I discovered and the need I felt to lay them to rest. [20:00] Michelle shares some of the stories she discovered about WWI soldiers. She explains the joy of finding descendants of these very young men that, in some cases, had been forgotten. [21:50] I ask Michelle about her heritage and Michelle shares her Scottish and Irish roots. [23:00] How has DNA helped you with your family tree? Michelle explains some of the ways in which DNA has helped her to trace her family tree, including identifying where in Ireland her family originated from. [26:08] I explain a "mis-attributed" parental event that I discovered upon my Nan doing her DNA test. We discuss the importance of talking to your family members and sharing your discoveries. [29:44] I ask Michelle about some of her more surprising DNA finds Michelle shares some of her favourite finds, such as an adoptee within her own tree. [34:22] I explain how I've used DNA to break down walls caused by illegitimate ancestors. Michelle explains the importance of testing as many descendants as possible and of "fishing in all the ponds" for DNA matches. [36:50] We talk about how interconnected our ancestors were, endogamy and pedigree collapse. [38:47] Have you ever worked with a DNA client and had a "Danny Dyer" moment (i.e. discovered a connection to someone royal or famous)? Michelle shares a story of a unexpected link to a celebrity. She solved the case by reading the celebrities biography! [42:30] I describe my 'blue blood' story and link to the De Crespigny family that are meant to be descended from Richard III. [43:57] We chat about how we feel more connected to some family tree lines than we do others - and how there is often no logic to these feelings. [46:50] I ask Michelle if she can pick a favourite ancestor. Michelle explains her feelings about her grandmother and how love for someone you never met can be passed along by those that did know them. [50:00] We talk about the joy of passing on stories, even those that aren't your own. [50:33] I ask Michelle what she...

Imagine discovering your family tree contained forgotten wrestling champions! It just goes to show that you really might discover anything when you start delving into family history. Kirsty Surgey uses family history to create performances. She plays with family history in imaginative ways that inspired me to take a second look at how I tell my genealogy stories. Resources:Support the podcast & buy me a cup of coffee https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) www.genealogystories.co.uk/forgotten-champions https://heardofcats.co.uk/ (https://heardofcats.co.uk/) Minute Notes: [00:29] What is a performance maker and researcher? Kirsty explains how she uses family history to create performances. [03.24] How does the traditional research of places and time periods fit into performance making? Kirsty explores ideas of heritage as performance. [04.46] Kirsty discusses how an individual's story is far more interesting if that individual is telling it rather than someone else - because telling our stories creates a relationship and connection to that story. [05.16] How much do you think family history helps people to form their own identity? Kirsty explains how the discovery of a place where generations of her ancestors had lived gave her a sense of rootedness. [08.04] Kirsty describes how sharing our stories helps us to understand what life was like in the past [09.53] What was it that lead you to research your family tree? Kirsty tells a story about the death of her Grandfather's cousin and the subsequent clearing of his house. Riffling through memorabilia she rediscovered wrestling champion ancestors! She discovered a female ancestor (Isabella) whose stories had been lost to time which stimulated her interest in researching her family tree. [14.11] Kirsty discovered a family bible with Isabella's name inscribed inside and a sampler she had made when she was 12. These items led her to explore and imagine what Isabella's adult life was like. [14.35] Kirsty and I discuss how past objects and photos provide a snap shot in time which can evoke a strange feeling of nostalgia and uncanniness. Kirsty explains her game Lines and Ladders. [20.10] I ask Kirsty to tell me about her favourite stories [20.22] Kirsty talks about her Great Grandmother, who during WWI went to university to study to become a doctor. The recordings of her life and that of her brothers were made by their Mother in a diary. The diary catches the pride and expectations their Mother had for them, but their lives do not plan out as expected. [26.09] We discuss keeping a diary during the pandemic and how that, even now looking back while still in the pandemic, past entries seems strange because you know the outcome. [26.41] Kirsty explains that individual stories can connect into each other and by playing the board game she has created, people can find connections to each other and to the past. [29.27] Discussion on how playing the board game can engage people to share their stories and stimulate those who may think their ancestry are boring. [30.46] Do you have a favourite time period? [31.15] Kirsty explains how she likes to jump into different parts of her history. She advices us not to get hung up about going back as far as possible, as very recent history is still history. [40.44] If you met someone that was sitting on the fence thinking about tracing their family history what would you say to them? [41.09] Kirsty shares her passion for family history.

Imagine 50 years after WWI you discovered that the grandfather everyone believed to have died of war wounds was actually alive and kicking and living nearby! Shockingly, that's exactly what happened to my guest, Helen Tovey's father. No wonder she became hooked on tracing her family tree. Helen is the editor of the brilliant Family Tree magazine and has a vibrant tree filled with innovative and inventive ancestors.  Resources:Support the podcast & buy me a cup of coffee https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) For more info see http://www.genealogystories.co.uk/innovative-ancestors (www.genealogystories.co.uk/innovative-ancestors) For more about Family Tree magazine: https://www.family-tree.co.uk/ (https://www.family-tree.co.uk/) For more info on the railway accidents project mentioned at the end of the interview, see http://www.railwayaccidents.port.ac.uk/ (http://www.railwayaccidents.port.ac.uk/) Minute Notes: [00:32] What made you start tracing your family tree? Helen explains the tree that her father inherited and a mysterious name in a newspaper that unlocked a family secret. [4:22] How has our ancestors personal lives impacted upon our lives today? Helen talks about us today as survivors and about how consoling it can be to find ancestors that led difficult lives. [6:37] Do you have any favourite stories? Helen shares stories about an ancestor that she was told had invented roundabouts and what she discovered about his life. [9:17] We talk about the way stories are passed down generations, what is and isn't remembered. [10:55] Do you have a favourite ancestor or someone you wish you could have met? Helen tells us about her Great-Granny, her childhood visits to her home and her affection for her. Plus, her family tree brick walls including two possible sisters with the same first name. [14:12] We discuss the joy of breaking through brick walls and the muddles that DNA can throw up. We share our feelings on tracing further back vs collecting stories about our ancestors and how we use our own ancestors as a starting point for exploring wider history. [19:07] Where are your ancestors from? Helen shares her UK and Irish roots and a newly discovered connection with Orkney. We discuss epigenics and the strange feeling of "coming home" that you can get from a place that you have actually never lived yourself. [22:32] Do you have a favourite time period? Helen tells us about her love for the 17th Century and her secret wish to be an international textile seller in the 1700s. [24:33] Helen shares her links to an ancestor that put down a slave riot. We talk about how tracing your family history can be uncomfortable and challenging. We discuss the changes in attitudes towards women both positive and negative. [29:30] What influence do you think the pandemic will have on genealogy? Helen hopes that the archives are not too adversely effected. We talk about the benefits of being able to now meet online and share stories. Helen shares her thoughts on the way genealogists are inventive. [32:32] What would you say to someone who was considering tracing their family tree? Helen shares her thoughts on the joy of exploring the past and the excitement of finding an ancestor in a historic document.

From stories of amazing resilience to Jewish naming traditions. My guest, professional genealogist Caitlin Hollander (from Hollander-Waas Jewish Heritage Services) shares her family history stories, advice on researching Jewish ancestors and so much more. Resources:Support the podcast & buy me a cup of coffee https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) www.genealogystories.co.uk/jewish-genealogy and https://www.hollander-waas.com/ (https://www.hollander-waas.com/) Minute Notes:[00:47] How did you get started tracing your family history? Caitlin shares stories of her grandfather. [02:15] I ask Caitlin about her heritage, from a mix of backgrounds including Jewish and Italian. [03:18] Caitlin shares stories about her favourite ancestors - in particular about a grandmother that married the local butcher. We chat about our female ancestors and their careers. [05:00] Caitlin explains her Jewish-German ancestors, the terrible impact of Holocaust and survival stories. [09:58] How does Caitlin cope with researching such harrowing stories? [14:00] If you could meet anyone of your ancestors - who would you meet and why? Caitlin shares stories of the resilient women in her tree, whom often defied convention. We share some stories about our favourite female ancestors and how we relate to them as women. [16:30] Caitlin explains the use of Jewish mother's surnames, the fluidity of surnames and the use of patronyms within Ashkenazi Jewish communities. [21:46] What kind of markers do you use to ensure you've found the right person? What impact has DNA had upon your research techniques? Caitlin explains the pro's and con's of working with endogamy within genetic genealogy research. She delves into the inter-marriage between certain families and how this can help you to ascertain whether you are on the "right track". [26:53] Caitlin shares a story about finding someone based on their signature - having to use a wide range of clues due to the fluidity of names and places. [29:33] Caitlin explains a very old Jewish tradition of re-naming the sick in order to trick the Angel of Death. She explains the way people have negotiated with these traditions. [33:33] Caitlin tells us a story about how sometimes names can tell us about our ancestors feelings about one another. [35:54] Do you have a favourite time period? Caitlin explains her love of different places and the types of records they produce. Caitlin shares why she loves tracing her family history. [37:58] How do you think the pandemic will effect the future of genealogy? [40:11] What would you say to someone who is thinking of tracing their family history - but is worried that now is not the best time? Caitlin shares her hopes, her frustrations and the loss of records and some more stories from her personal family history.

Crime historian, Angela Buckley (the Victorian Supersleuth) delves into the world of Victorian policing, covering both coppers and criminals in this week's episode of #TwiceRemoved. Sharing stories from her own family tree, Angela brings Victorian criminal history to life. Resources: Support the podcast & buy me a cup of coffee https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) You can find out more about Genealogy Stories and this episode by visiting www.genealogystories.co.uk/victorian-coppers-and-crime Learn more about Angela and criminal history at https://victorian-supersleuth.com/ (https://victorian-supersleuth.com) Website of author Hallie Rubenhold (see 41:22) https://www.hallierubenhold.com/ (https://www.hallierubenhold.com/) Genealogy subscription site http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ (www.ancestry.co.uk) Minute Notes: [00:37] I ask Angela what led her to trace her family tree. Angela details her own family history including her links to Wiltshire, Manchester, America and Italy and we discuss the impact that the publication online of the 1901 census had on us both. [03:00] Angela shares her stories about her favourite ancestors, including a pioneering female relative that emigrated to the USA. [04:56] We discuss the connection we feel we have to our ancestors and our emotional response to their lives. [06:15] Angela shares stories about in person reunions with cousins found via Ancestry. The last time the family had been together was 100 years ago. [08:14] What started Angela's interest in crime history? Angela explains her discovery of an ancestor within a Calendar of Prisoners. This ancestor stole potatoes but what really interested Angela was that his step-mother was the person that informed the police of his crime. Angela became fascinated with the impact that poverty and breaking the law had upon the family. [12:00] We discuss the Victorian era and why we love it so much! [15:42] What was Victorian policing like? Angela explains the initial voluntary nature of rural policing and the combination of day and night watchmen alongside constables in cities. Angela explains the formation of the MET in 1829 and the four types of police forces that existed right up until the 1960s/70s. Angela explains the various changes that started taking place around the mid 19th Century and the similarities between the organisational structure of policing in the 19th and 21st Century. [21:42] What happened when there was a very serious crime, like murder? [19:31] Who decided which crimes needed to be investigated and how did they make those decisions? Angela details the rise of detectives and explains watch committees, the role and influence of the public and private policing. She explains the response to serious crimes such as murders, a spate of garrotting and the sad rise in baby farming. [23:52] We discuss my criminal ancestors and my discovery of a botched police investigation and unreliable witnesses. [26:25] What tools did police have at their disposal to investigate a crime? How did they gather proof? Angela explains the reliance on observation, common-sense and witness testimonies. She explores the use of police sketches, plaster casts, chemical analysis and the use of experts. We discuss the slow professionalisation of the police and the use of science, such as finger printing. [29:37] Are there crimes that were more prevalent during Victorian period, compared to today? Angela discussing stealing, particularly of clothing and fraud. [33:07] What punishments might our ancestors have faced, if they were found guilty of committing a crime? Angela explains that the death penalty and transportation were not common and describes some of the types of hard labour that might accompany imprisonment. The blueprint of prisons and it's regimes are discussed. [41:22] Which cases have you found most interesting? We discuss the influence of The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the...

Natalie Pithers (Genealogy Stories) interviews well known genealogist Dr Nick Barratt (best known for his work on BBC's Who Do You Think You Are?). Together we explore Nick's unique family history. From illegitimate great-grandmothers to spies and WWI stories. Resources:Support the podcast & buy me a cup of coffee https://ko-fi.com/genealogystories (Ko-fi.com/genealogystories) More information available at www.genealogystories.co.uk/a-spy-in-the-tree Resources: The Forgotten Spy by Nick Barratt and http://www.stick.org.uk/ (www.stick.org.uk) Minute Notes:[00:41] What got you started, tracing your own family tree? Nick explains how he got the genealogy bug after discovering his Great Uncle in the KV2 files, which related to MI was a spy. [02:37] Nick explains the story of his illegitimate Grandmother, her life and Nick's struggle to uncover her father's identity. [5:12] DNA testing and the unexpected results it can confront us with. [6:25] We discuss our connection to certain ancestors and why we might be drawn to them. [6:56] If you could meet one of your ancestors who would it be? Nick tells us about an ancestor that he discovered worked at the British Museum and his desire to find his Great-Grandfather. Nick explains the questions he has about his Great-Grandfather and his immigration from Germany to the UK. [08:32] My own Welsh illegitimate ancestors, my questions about their lives and missing identities. The questions we ask about our ancestors. [10:08] Do you have a favourite historical period and if so when is it and why? Nick shares his passion for the 13th Century. [13:30] Have you traced your own family tree back to medieval period? We discuss why we are less interested in going "as far back as possible" and more interested in understanding the lives of our ancestors. [15:18] How important is understanding the places your ancestors lived is to genealogy? Nick explains the inter-connections between local history and other types of history, such as social history. [16:33] What influence do you think the pandemic is going to have on genealogy? Nick shares his fears about the way we access our history and the lack of funding for archives. Nick explains the importance of collection notes and the archival sector. We also discuss big data projects and exciting innovations in the way data can be connected using modern technology. Nick shares his opinions on the future of sharing our own histories. [20:46] Do you think now is a good time to start tracing your family tree? Nick shares his feelings about the importance of recording our own feelings and preserving our own memories. He shares his thoughts on how this links to starting to trace your own family history - and why now is a great time to start both preserving our heritage and exploring the past.