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Pickens, Joe, and Victor join Caitlin to talk about Return to Oz - a fever dream, a cult classic, and, yes, the official sequel to The Wizard of Oz. For a kids' movie, it's got some serious horror beats, and it has a great monstrous femme figure in Princess Mombi. We chat about our favorite freaky moments and go over some fun movie trivia. Tangents for this episode include: Bugaboo Creek, malls, the Muppets, Disney parks, Elton John, and of course a few on-theme FMKs.
New month, means new theme: Movies that Scared Us, That Shouldn't Have. And boy do we have a dozie this week! Britney and Nicole watch the 1985 movie "Return to Oz" and yikes, is this movie creepy! The sisters discuss how the movie's music score and production design sounds and looks more like District 12 from "Hunger Games" than the whimsy of Oz. They talk about how the headless Princess Mombi scared them just as much as adults as she did when they were kids. And they question how this movie was ever marketed to children when it's absolutely nightmare inducing! It's horrifically obvious Dorothy is no longer in Kansas!
…or “Go Home, Toto!” In which our heroes obsess over Return to Oz (1985). This dark fantasy finds Dorothy (Fairuza Balk) returning to a post-apocalyptic Oz, ruled over by the tyrannical Nome King (Nicol Williamson). Disney produced this faithful adaptation of L. Frank Baum's second and third Oz books. FEATURING: Dorothy Gale! Bellina! Tik-Tok! Jack Pumpkinhead! The Gump! The Wheelers! Princess Mombi! AND the Nome King!!! ALSO FEATURING: Taylor's favorite obscure movie! Limestone pie! The music of the Scissor Sisters! The Deadly Desert! Celebrating the great Walter Murch! Half moose, half couch! Jean Marsh scares us! Production woes! Uncle Henry's bum leg! AND this ain't Judy Garland!!! __________ Taylor Zaccario….Host, Director, Producer, Writer Nick Zaccario….Host, Director, Producer, Editor This episode features a clip from the song “Return to Oz”, written by Scott Hoffman & Jason Sellards, and produced by the Scissor Sisters.
Quick! Before they electro-shock our adolescent brains! We take an anti-aging tornado to Oz with Dorothy and her pet chicken, Billina. Flashback to your childhood nightmares of the Wheelers and Princess Mombi and her hall of heads. The Nome King shows off his ruby slippers and the gang ventures inside his stone arsehole to discover which ornaments are their friends. Wonder along with us about why Dorothy would ever return to the dust bowl that is Kansas instead of being the princess of Oz. All that and more on this week's episode! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/doomgeneration/message
As we discussed in our 100th episode, L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard Of Oz delighted generation after generation of children, and MGM's 1939 musical adaptation became one of the most popular and cherished motion pictures of all time. So it's only natural that in the '80s, Disney decided to pay tribute to these Oz classics in a family film that puts Dorothy in an insane asylum and turns her beloved trio of friends to stone... right? With a surprisingly dark storyline and truly frightening special effects, it's no wonder 1985's RETURN TO OZ scared the hell out of more children than it charmed. (Surprise! It wasn't a hit.) Disney's pseudo-sequel to a film that everybody knows and loves is largely forgotten, but that doesn't stop When We Were Young's hosts from checking back in with the many-headed Princess Mombi, the sinister but fabulous Nome King, and the kooky, cackling Wheelers. Fortunately, young Fairuza Balk and a handful of lovable new comrades, including Tik-Tok, Jack Pumpkinhead, and a sassy hen named Billina, are on hand to brighten things up between shudders. Is Disney's dystopian vision of Oz worth the return trip? Or do we wish Dorothy had just followed her own advice and stayed home this time around? Return with us to the scary old land of Oz — if you dare! Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at @WWWYshow, on Facebook at Facebook.com/WWWYShow and email episode suggestions to wwwyshow@gmail.com. Don't forget to subscribe and review us on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts so more folks check out the show! Help us defray the costs of creating this show, which include recording remotely, purchasing movies/shows/music to review, delivery food to eat our feelings, and producing & editing in-house at the MFP Studio in Los Angeles, California by donating to our Patreon account at patreon.com/WhenWeWereYoung
This week we’re joined by Kimberly Meyer, author of Murder at Constellation House (a cozy cosmic horror mystery set in Newport, Rhode Island). She brings us one of her childhood traumas: Return to Oz! Opinions vary wildly about this one, so get ready for a hot debate! Image Description: Princess Mombi holds a disembodied head before putting it on. The Princess Mombi scene in particular was the scariest for young Kim. It’s available to watch on YouTube if you don’t want to watch the entire movie (though, honestly, Julia thinks you should just watch the whole thing on Disney Plus).Geoffrey brings writer and director, Walter Murch, who has a primary background in sound design and video editing (for which he’s won Oscars!) to the table as his most notable person, and Julia waxes ecstatic about foley again—it’s like a repeat of The Land Before Time episode. This movie has a ton of satisfying sounds! We also mention Will Vinton, who did the claymation in this movie (previously seen in The Adventures of Mark Twain and California Raisins episodes), and Fairuza Balk, who turned in an AMAZING performance, and did all her own stunts!We also talk about the political allegory interpretation of the first Oz book, which turns out to date from 1990. Kim also brings up an early episode of the Lore podcast about mental institutions in the past. You know, in case you want to listen to something lighter.*Julia also mentioned that Tik-Tok sort of sounded like Box from Logan’s Run. This video is just a loop of Box talking about proteins from the sea. Thanks so much to Kim for joining us! Check out Murder at Constellation House, available in paperback and e-book from Amazon. *By “lighter” we mean, definitely not lighter. Not even a little bit. The history of mental institutions is heavy stuff. If you’re having fun listening to us, please tell your friends about us! Subscribe to our newsletter at thisiswhywerelikethis.substack.com for free, or pay $5/month to get access to two bonus paid episodes each month! We’re also on Patreon if that’s your jam! Rate and review us! follow us on Twitter where we’re @thisiswhy_pod! And, of course, you can always drop us a note at at thisiswhywerelikethis@gmail.com. This is a public episode. Get access to private episodes at thisiswhywerelikethis.substack.com/subscribe
This week we're joined by Kimberly Meyer, author of Murder at Constellation House (a cozy cosmic horror mystery set in Newport, Rhode Island). She brings us one of her childhood traumas: Return to Oz! Opinions vary wildly about this one, so get ready for a hot debate! Image Description: Princess Mombi holds a disembodied head before putting it on. The Princess Mombi scene in particular was the scariest for young Kim. It's available to watch on YouTube if you don't want to watch the entire movie (though, honestly, Julia thinks you should just watch the whole thing on Disney Plus).Geoffrey brings writer and director, Walter Murch, who has a primary background in sound design and video editing (for which he's won Oscars!) to the table as his most notable person, and Julia waxes ecstatic about foley again—it's like a repeat of The Land Before Time episode. This movie has a ton of satisfying sounds! We also mention Will Vinton, who did the claymation in this movie (previously seen in The Adventures of Mark Twain and California Raisins episodes), and Fairuza Balk, who turned in an AMAZING performance, and did all her own stunts!We also talk about the political allegory interpretation of the first Oz book, which turns out to date from 1990. Kim also brings up an early episode of the Lore podcast about mental institutions in the past. You know, in case you want to listen to something lighter.*Julia also mentioned that Tik-Tok sort of sounded like Box from Logan's Run. This video is just a loop of Box talking about proteins from the sea. Thanks so much to Kim for joining us! Check out Murder at Constellation House, available in paperback and e-book from Amazon. *By "lighter" we mean, definitely not lighter. Not even a little bit. The history of mental institutions is heavy stuff. If you're having fun listening to us, please tell your friends about us! Subscribe to our newsletter at thisiswhywerelikethis.substack.com for free, or pay $5/month to get access to two bonus paid episodes each month! We're also on Patreon if that's your jam! Rate and review us! follow us on Twitter where we're @thisiswhy_pod! And, of course, you can always drop us a note at at thisiswhywerelikethis@gmail.com. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thisiswhywerelikethis.substack.com/subscribe
Nine months after her Oz experience, Dorothy wants to return to check in with her friends. Aunt Em thinks Dorothy is mentally ill. She seeks treatment from an experimental clinic using electroshock therapy to treat maladies of the mind. Dorothy is taken to an eerie clinic run by an uncaring Dr. Worley and the stern Nurse Wilson. During the treatment, a mysterious girl watching over Dorothy intervenes during a lightning strike that halts the experiment. Dorothy escapes down a nearby river, washing ashore in the land of Oz again. Except the Yellow Brock Road is demolished. The Emerald City is in ruins and its inhabitants, including all of her old friends, have been turned to stone by the mad Nome King. Except for the Scarecrow, who ran Emerald City in her absence, who has been imprisoned. Along with her hen Billina, a broomstick figure with a pumpkin for a head named, obviously, Jack Pumpkinhead, a robotic soldier named Tik Tok, and a flying beast of burden named The Gump, it's up to Dorothy to stop the mad Nome King and the evil Princess Mombi from destroying the Oz that once was for good. Fairuza Balk stars as Dorothy in her debut feature film. Walter Murch directs and co-writes this nightmarish cult adventure.
Double Edged Double Bill returns to the realm of fantasy films! Along with returning guest Caitlin Turner, Adam Thomas and Thomas Mariani take a look at two fantasy films from the magical year of 1985! First is our bad feature Red Sonja, where Bridget Nielsen makes her awkward debut and Arnold Schwarzenegger is... briefly there. Then, our good feature is Return to Oz, the weird quasi sequel to the classic musical that Disney has tried to bury for being too dark. Together, this trio will marvel at the early stunt work of Ernie Reyes Jr, shudder at the dead eyes of The Scarecrow and pick their films for next week's episode on stop motion animation! Quick, download the episode now before Princess Mombi's headless body gets you! Listen to Adam's appearance on The Horror Returns talking the old and new Pet Sematary here! To stay up to date about the podcast, follow us on Twitter @DEDBpod, our Facebook page and send us feedback at doubleedgeddoublebill@gmail.com! If you like the show, please subscribe to or rate us on platforms like iTunes, Spotify or Stitcher!
What happened last time? Guys, I am still so full of cheese and wine from the holidays that it's hard to think. Oh yeah! Your adventurers are currently in the middle of a battle with a giant house on octopus-tree-legs, and a creepy old blood-bath-taking witch with a Princess Mombi-style voice. Lank and Batthwack are attempting to retrieve a mysterious glowing green gem from inside the floorboards of the house, while Raphina battles the witch outside. Meanwhile, Will is disguised as Strahd in an effort to distract the old crone from attacking Lank and Batthwack. Will our heroes survive? Where the hell is Nick? And what's with these ravens in cages?
What happened last time? Guys, I am still so full of cheese and wine from the holidays that it's hard to think. Oh yeah! Your adventurers are currently in the middle of a battle with a giant house on octopus-tree-legs, and a creepy old blood-bath-taking witch with a Princess Mombi-style voice. Lank and Batthwack are attempting to retrieve a mysterious glowing green gem from inside the floorboards of the house, while Raphina battles the witch outside. Meanwhile, Will is disguised as Strahd in an effort to distract the old crone from attacking Lank and Batthwack. Will our heroes survive? Where the hell is Nick? And what's with these ravens in cages?
Mark, Rick and Brian have a "reviewsit" of Return to Oz to celebrate the spooky Halloween season. After revealing how this darker sequel to the Wizard of Oz terrified them as children, the lads touch upon other Oz media that opened up the world from the original film, ponder whether the Land of Oz really exists vs. it all being in Dorothy's head and jump at the mention every time of the frightening Wheeler creatures and Princess Mombi. Brian also reveals how his bathroom routine in his youth was modeled after one of the movie's characters, the fellas provide a public service announcement about not drinking silver and they meet more of the peculiar inhabitants of the Emerald City. Follow the Yellow Brick Road that leads to the Movie Cave because it's almost Halloween and these "Pop Culture Pumpkinheads" have a lot to say about this scary sequel!
Ask anyone who saw 1985's Return to Oz when they were a kid, and they'll probably remember it being scary. It *is* scary. (Princess Mombi is basically perfect nightmare fuel.) But in this episode, Chris, Drew and guest host Glen Lakin talk about how it's also a better movie that its reputation would have you think. Also discussed: Fairuza Balk being a precocious little moppet, Illuminati mind control, and how Return to Oz came to be the first and last movie directed by revered film editor Walter Murch.
Daniel Mcarthur marks three days as a guest as things get weirder! Jack uses his noggin to help Dorothy understand Princess Mombi. Email us: returntoozminute@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @ozminute and join us on Facebook using facebook.com/ozminute Just ask to join our listener group to become part of The Flying Sofa! Visit us at www.returntoozminute.com for more
In 1985 a Disney movie was born and quickly wormed its way into the fears of every child known to mankind. Sorry too dramatic? But for realz. Return to OZ is the movie that still haunts many of us today and is the reason why most of us panic and abandon a shopping cart at the first sign of squeak. Join us as we discuss those pesky Wheelers, the awesome/horrifying Princess Mombi and her weird man voice, and take a deep dive into Sweetie's latent fear of rock people wearing hidden dress shoes. There's no place like home but seriously, there has to be a better place than Kansas...Am I right? Theme song performed by Deidre Cullen. Logo designed by Frankie Donlon. Follow us on Twitter @TheSweetieClub and on Instagram @LargeMargeSentUs