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From the creators of Tomes of Evil comes a SMASHING new podcast dedicated to Marvel's Green Goliath, The Incredible Hulk! Gamma Charge is the only dedicated COMIC (Movies, TV, Games as well) Hulk podcast on the internet! Join Russell and Justin as they RA

Russell Moran & Justin Osgood


    • Mar 25, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 1h 4m AVG DURATION
    • 77 EPISODES


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    Episode 68 More Red Hulk and More Red Hulk

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2025 57:32


    Josh and Russell are back to finally* talk more Red Hulk. This episode the guys talk Hulk (2008) issues 7 to 9 by Jeph Loeb and Art Adams. As well as the new Red Hulk book #1 (2025) by Ben Percy and Geoff Shaw. A little SMASHING NEWS as well. *they tried recording this ep 2 previous times.  Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 67 Captain America 4 ReCap & Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 36:44


    Josh goes solo to recap and review Captain America Brave New World. Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 66 She-Hulk Meets Dr. Doom's…5th Cousin

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2025 58:11


    Russ and Justin invite back editor Knol to talk more Gerber She-Hulk. Quick Glam Jam and goofiness. Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Bonus Episode: Hellboy!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2025 61:55


    An episode from our Patreon bonus shows to give ya a little tease on why you should join our Patreon. Russ, Justin & Knol go over the first four proper issues of Mike Mignola's Hellboy.   Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 65 Immortal Hulk 21-25

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2025 67:05


    Russ and Justin are back to talk about Immortal Hulk 21 through 25 by Ewing. A email from a listener and a small bit o' news.  Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Gamma Charge HULK 2008 Number 4 Reenactment

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2024 11:32


    Your hosts and guests reenact Hulk #4 from 2008 by Jeph Loeb and Ed McGuiness.  Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 63 More Red Hulk, Kinda

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2024 47:13


    Russ is back with Josh to talk more Red Hulk by Loeb, I think, kinda. I mean, it's Red Hulk stuff. I don't know, I wasn't paying attention. Just listen. Also, I think some Captain America 4 talk. Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 62 Grey Shulkies & Orange Duck Sauce

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2024 68:07


    Russ and Justin invite on Knol from Trapped In A World - The Howard The Duck Podcast to talk about the rest of the Howard The Duck guest starring issues of The Sensational She-Hulk. Issues 16 & 17, The Cosmic Squish.  Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Gamma Charge 61 Immortal Hulk: Time Of Monsters

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2024 54:41


    Justin and Russell discuss the one off Immortal Hulk: Time Of Monsters by Al Ewing, Alex Paknadel and Juan Ferreyra. Plus Rant Pants/Glam Jam and some movie and horror movie talk. Boo. Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Bonus Episode: Heaps Of Fun

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2024 49:01


    Frpm our Patreon. Justin & Russell cover the only issue of the bronze age Heap, from September 1971 from Skywald Publications and BS for a while.   

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    Episode 60 Immortal Hulk 16-20

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2024 62:15


    Russell and Justin continue their coverage of The Immortal Hulk with issues 16 to 20. Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 59 Red Hulk Starts!

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2024 56:01


    Russell and Josh Link start our coverage of The Red Hulk with Hulk Vol 2 number 1-6 by Jeph Loeb and Ed McGunness. Your hosts: Russ & Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 58 State Of The Gamma

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2024 37:51


    The guys are back this time to introduce new co-host Josh Link. Future plans, a bunch of SMASHING NEWS and all the other normal crap. Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Josh. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 57 Interview with David Pepose

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2024 57:50


    The guys are back this time with David Pepose to talk about his Hulk annual, Savage Avengers and more.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Bonus Show #1: The Beast of Yucca Flats

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2024 46:44


    This summer we will be releasing some of the old Patreon bonus episodes to wet your whistle. Here the boys talk about one of the worst movies ever made: The Beast of Yucca Flats! Check out our Patreon!  

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    Gamma Charge 56 The Return Of PKJ

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2024 78:22


    WE ARE BACK! Another great and thoughtful interview with Philip Kennedy Johnson. This time about the first full year of of PKJ's Hulk run. Wide ranging talk about a lot of the new characters Philip has introduced to the Hulk cannon and some of the real life influences that brought them to the comics. All that and a little SMASHING NEWS! Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 55 Hulk Vs Wolverine (not that one) feat Marvel By The Month

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2024 84:58


    This week Russ invites on Jamie and Bryan from the Marvel By The Month Podcast to discuss Wolverine #8 from 1989 by Chris Claremont and John Buscema for Logan's 50th birthday. We start with some news and a letter and go big into this issue. Hang on to your white tux. Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 54: Frozen Charlotte (Previously Recorded Live)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2024 62:22


    Gamma Charge returns with another batch of "new" issues (we say new but we're actually behind)   Shulkie wraps up her Girls Night from Hell with Carol, Patsy, and a HELLACIOUS cameo The Hulk and Charly find themselves in New Orleans, unknowingly in the realm of FROZEN CHARLOTTE

    Episode 53 Gamma Duck vs The Baloneyverse

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2024 86:24


    Here we are, trapped in the Baloneyverse with Howard The Duck, so here it is! The first Gamma Charge/Trapped In A World crossover. Russ and Justin invite on Knol, Russ' co-host from TIAW to talk about The Sensational She-Hulk issues 14 and 15 by Steve Gerber and Brian Hitch from 1990. Some Ranty Pants at the end and the RETURN OF DOCTOR BONG! Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 52 Hulk and X-Factor

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2024 76:46


    Starting out upside down, the boys give us a couple of Rants of the Pants. Then they get into Incredible Hulk issues 390 through 392 “War and Pieces” by Peter David and others from 1991. Will they Smash? Will they Clap? Will they tell PD to Fix It? They Clap. Come on? It's Peter David. Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 51 Hulk VS Onslaught

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 29, 2024 53:45


    Russell is back with guest host Josh Link to talk about an onslaught of Hulk VS Onslaught (the stupid melding of Prof X and Magneto). This episode they discuss three issues from 1996; Cable #34 by Loeb & Churchill, The Incredible Hulk # 444 by Peter David and Angel Medina and finally Onslaught: Marvel Universe by Waid, Lobdell (ewwww, we don't like him,) Bennett (who we also think is a prick) and Adam Kubert. One Smash, one Fix It and one Clap. Can you guess which issue gets what? Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.  

    Episode 50 The Glitchy Immortal Hulk

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2024 52:08


    Justin and Russell are back to talk about more Immortal Hulk. This episode they discuss issues 11 though 15. No frills episode because Russ was having some weird computer issues you'll notice once and awhile and perhaps hear Knol pull his hair out in the background while editing.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 49: Incredible Hulk #8 and Sensational She-Hulk #4 (Previously Recorded Live)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2024 93:02


    Russell and Justin review the newest issues of our favorite green characters, as well as lots of SMASHING NEWS and Hulking Haul goodness!

    Episode 48 She-Hulk The Movie?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2024 68:46


    Justin, Russell and Knol are back to talk about two classic issues of The Sensational She-Hulk; number 12 by Peter David and 13 by Steve Gerber. Hang on to your whatever you hang on to. Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 47 Waiting For The U-Foes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2024 62:55


    Justin and Russell are back to talk about a classic issue of The Incredible Hulk; #254 “Wait For The U-Foes” by Bill Mantlo and Sal Buscema from 1980. No Hulking' Haul or Smashing NEWS this week but we have a little update too an old Rants Pants. Enjoy. Or Not. Whatever, man. Bibleman.     Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate. Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 46: Rainbow Makes Russ Cry- Incredible Hulk #7 & Sensational She-Hulk #3 (Previously Recorded LIVE)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2024 81:02


    How did Rainbow Rowell make Russ cry? Find out on the first GAMMA CHARGE of 2024   PLUS   A MASSIVE HULKING HAUL

    Episode 45 More Immortal Hulk

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2023 93:04


    The boys dive deeper into Immortal Hulk, covering 4 more issues. Some SMASHING NEWS, Hulkin' Haul & show updates, and of course Rants Pants.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 44 Return Of The Bi-Beast

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2023 80:07


    Russ & Justin return to a show favorite; THE BI-BEAST! Covering TIH issues #215 & 216 from 1977 by Len Wein, Sal Buscema, Ernie Chan & more. Some SMASHING NEWS, Hulking' Haul & of course Rants Pants.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 43: NEW Issue Roundup (Previously Recorded Live)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2023 88:09


    Russell and Justin return to discuss the first two issues of the new Sensational She-Hulk series, as well as, Incredible Hulk #6 Alos discussion on Justin's birthday, Doctor Who, and of course RANT PANTS

    Episode 42 Hulk: Gray Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2023 34:51


    Russ and Justin continue their look at Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's Hulk: Gray mini series.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 41 Hulk: Gray Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2023 68:17


    Russ and Justin look over Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's Hulk: Gray mini series. Some news, Hulking' Haul and Rant Pants is back! Hold onto your hats.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 40 Enter The Immortal Hulk

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2023 85:03


    Russ and Justin start their coverage of Al Ewing's  Immortal Hulk. Issues one through five. A couple of Hulking' Hauls and stupid news.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 39: Saga of the Swamp Witch (PKJ Incredible Hulk #5) + Crypt of Shadows

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2023 82:18


    Russell and Justin bring you another NEW comic review   In Incredible Hulk #5 from Philip Kennedy Johnson & Travel Foreman, The Hulk teams with Man-Thing to save Charlie from the maw of the Swamp Witch In Crypt of Shadows, Hulk forges an unlikely alliance with Jack Russell to take on a classic Spider-Man foe

    Episode 38 PKJ's Hulk Issues 3 & 4

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2023 80:55


    Russ is back! With a lot to say and a lot to say about the latest two issues of Philip Kennedy Johnson's Incredible Hulk. Strap in for an epic episode.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 34 She Hulk And The Adventure of Pseudo-Man

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2023 56:41


    Russ is getting married! Maybe right now as you read this. Justin invites on editor Knol to talk about the first Steve Gerber Sensational She-Hulks, issue #10 and #11 by Gerber and Bryan Hitch and a host of others. The return of the Glam Jam! Congrats Russell and Jackie! Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 36: The Owl and the Platypus- Incredible Hulk Annual #19

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2023 71:49


    Russell is on sabbatical preparing for his wedding, so Justin the Owl takes the reigns! But, The Owl isn't alone!    Longtime friend and returning guest host The High Priest of Khonshu, Rey is here! Rey and Justin discuss Incredible Hulk Annual #19. Always a good time when Rey is here! 

    Episode 35: Return of the Defenders Part 1 w/ Phil from Marvel Tales

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2023 56:01


    Here's part one of our SECOND crossover with the Marvel Tales podcast. Check out part two over on their feed!   Lots of weird stuff in this one folks    

    Episode 34: LIFEFORM Part 2 w/Phil (Previously Recorded LIVE)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2023 53:13


    The audio from the recent Gamma Charge livestream.   Russell and Justin are joined by Phil from the Capes and Lunatics podcast to discuss the crossover event LIFEFORM. Croenenberg style Body horror has made its way to the Marvel Universe, and the Hulk lies in its path!   Check out Marvel Tales on the Capes and Lunatics feed to find PART ONE of this podcasting crossover 

    Episode 33 PKJ's Incredible Hulk #2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2023 47:20


    Russ and Justin talk about the second Phillip Kennedy Johnson Hulk issue. A Surprise Rants Pants, Hulking' Hauls and some SSSMMMAASSHHHIIINNGGGG NNNEEEWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 32 She Hulk - Burn Out

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2023 48:15


    Russ and Justin talk about the first post-Byrne Sensational She-Hulk, issue #9 from 1989, “Burn Out”. Shulkie vs Madcap! By Richard Starkings, Greg Wright, Bryan Hitch and a host of others. What will the guys think about She-Hulk after John Byrne? Wait and find out. Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 31 Philip Kennedy Johnson

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2023 58:03


    Russ and Justin invite on new Incredible Hulk writer Philip Kennedy Johnson to discuss his upcoming run. Great interview plus some Hulk news and the like.  Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

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    Episode 30 Ang Lee's Hulk

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2023 83:50


    Gamma Charge Episode 30 Ang Lee's Hulk Russ and Justin invite on Director Brad Elmore of Wolf Man's Hammer, Bit and Boogeyman Pop to discuss Ang Lee's 2003 film Hulk. Will they Smash or Clap this one? Will they discuss Creed for a long time and Knol edits out none of it? Will Brad go on a rant about Marvel films that Knol cuts most of? Listen and find out. Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

    TUESDAYS TO ASTONISH EPISODE 2: Tales to Astonish #61

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2023 8:33


    A MAJOR Hulk supporting cast member debuts in this ish. Plus, What did Egghead have in store for Pym?

    TUESDAYS TO ASTONISH Episode 1: Tales to Astonish #60

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2023 15:40


    Russell begins the journey through all of the Hulk's starring appearances in Tales to Astonish. This issue is a big one. One of the biggest facets of the Hulk's lore is established in this issue. ALSO, What was happening in the other half of this comic with Giant Man?

    Episode 29: "The Viridian Project" Hulk Annual (2023) #1

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2023 52:53


    THIS EPISODE WAS ORIGINALLY STREAMED LIVE   Russ and Justin discuss the brand new Hulk Annual from David Pepose and co. Plus, lots of talk about Found Footage horror and the upcoming run from Philip Kennedy Johnson    

    Episode 28 “Monkey Business”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2023 46:03


    Russ and Justin cover Incredible Hulk 266 from 1981 by Bill Mantlo and Sal Buscema where the Hulk meets The High Evolutionary. Timely, huh? Hairy? Yes. Weird? Always. Do the guys “Smash” or “Clap” the issue? Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Follow Trapped in A World on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 27 “The Dark Hulk” or “Strange Matters”

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2023 83:54


    Russ and Justin invite on Phil from the Capes And Lunatics podcast network to cover The Incredible Hulk issues 370 and 371 by Peter David and some loser. Some Grey Hulk shiiiit with Dr. Strange and Namor. I think. I don't read the issues. I'm just going off what wiki says. Your hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Follow Capes and Lunatics on Twitter. Follow Trapped in A World on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 26 Psychological Warfare with Anne

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2023 34:14


    Yup, another episode. This time the guys invite on Anne from The Comics Collective Podcast to talk about a Hulk issue. Which one? I forget. What do you want me from? There's a lot of Hulk comics and I don't have the time to do all this. It's a great episode though... probably.  - Knol our hosts: Russell and Justin. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Follow Anne on Twitter Follow The Comics Collective Podcast on Twitter Follow Trapped in A World on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 25 DID Swap with Rey of Into The Knight and Leyna

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2023 67:24


    For DID awareness Gamma Charge and Into The Knight - The Moon Knight Podcast swap hosts. Check out our friends discuss this ground breaking Hulk issue and talk about Dissociative Identity Disorder in comics. Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Carl. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Follow Into The Night on Twitter. Follow Trapped in A World on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

    Episode 24 Hulkamania Vs Quantumania

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2023 47:01


    Gamma Charge Episode 24 Hulkamania Vs Quantumania Russ, Carl and Justin cover some 70's Hulk comics. One with Kang (Incredible Hulk 135) and one with MODOK (Incredible Hulk 167), because it's topical. One SMASH and one CLAP! No real Hulk news but some Hulking' Hauls!   Your hosts: Russell, Justin and Carl. Your Editor: Knol Tate.  Your music: Deleter. Join our Patreon. Follow Gamma Charge on Instagram. Follow Gamma Charge on Twitter. Follow Tomes Of Evil on Twitter. Follow Trapped in A World on Twitter. Check out our Facebook page.

    Rant Pants Episode 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2023 18:51


    Carl and Justin have at it. Some Glam Jams too, so it's not all a bummer. 

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