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Elon Musk is going after George Soros. While the Left parrots talking points of "anti-semitism," Liz breaks down the statistics that show what kind of havoc Soros's progressive prosecutors are wreaking and what their leftist comrades are trying to distract us from. Plus, these are the most controversial topics you're not allowed to talk about, according to the "regime." This is The Liz Wheeler Show. -- Support American manufacturing and elevate your pickleball game with Bird Pickleball Paddles by GRIP6 at https://birdpickleball.com. -- Get 10% off at 4Patriots when you use the promo code LIZ: https://4Patriots.com. -- Download the free Upside app to start saving money on your first tank of gas today. Use promo code LIZ5. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Elon Musk once again schools a legacy media reporter, demonstrating that their days are indeed over! Highlights: ● “In a Tweet earlier this week, Musk compared Soros to the X-Men villain Magneto who is on a warpath against humanity.” ● “You can see clearly what Elon is referring to there: all the offers of money and power are not enough for him to abandon his championing the principle of free speech, which he sees as foundational to a flourishing civilization.” ● “With the Twitter platform, and with social media in general as long as it's not policed by woke censorship boards, by ministries of truth, these networks provide the platform whereby information can be radically democratized, information is effectively de-centralized away from monopolistic institutional control like the legacy media and it's now available to everyone through digital networks.” ● “With mass information and the platform provided by Elon Musk's Twitter, an independent and alternative media world is rising, and rising exponentially!” Timestamps: [01:13] Elon's tweet about George Soros and what he said to the interviewer who brought it up [06:27] Musk's response to the notion that he's pushing conspiracy theories [07:27] What all of this means for the extraordinary rise of alternative media Resources: ● You can download my NEW GUIDEBOOK “5 Steps to ESCAPE the Great RESET" for a limited time for FREE at https://free.turleytalks.com/escape-the-great-reset/ ● Ep. 1617 Miller Lite Pulls Woke Ad after Massive Backlash!!! ● It's time to walk away from the woke corporations. Make The Switch at https://patriotswitch.com/turley ● Start the 24/7 Protection of Your Home and Equity Today! Go to https://www.hometitlelock.com/turleytalks ● Reclaim sovereignty over your health TODAY with Nature's Morphine HERE: https://www.bh3ktrk.com/2DDD1J/2CTPL/ ● Join my growing FREE Courageous Patriot Network TODAY: https://share.hsforms.com/1va23lG2zRZaLgiBZlF3B1g2drig ● Want free inside stock tips straight from the SEC? Click here to get started now: https://event.webinarjam.com/channel/turleytalks Thank you for taking the time to listen to this episode. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and/or leave a review. Sick and tired of Big Tech, censorship, and endless propaganda? Join my Insiders Club with a FREE TRIAL today at: https://insidersclub.turleytalks.com Make sure to FOLLOW me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrTurleyTalks BOLDLY stand up for TRUTH in Turley Merch! Browse our new designs right now at: https://store.turleytalks.com/ Do you want to be a part of the podcast and be our sponsor? Click here to partner with us and defy liberal culture! If you would like to get lots of articles on conservative trends make sure to sign-up for the 'New Conservative Age Rising' Email Alerts.
The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 2: According to reports, the USDA is considering a ban on chocolate milk in public school cafeterias. While being interviewed on the red carpet of the 2023 GLAAD Media Awards, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre criticized states with bans on gender affirming care for minors. She also stated: "These are our kids. They belong to all of us." On Tuesday, billionaire Elon Musk spoke with David Faber of CNBC. During the interview, Musk said he would continue to speak freely on Twitter “and if the consequence of that is losing money, so be it.” He also criticized progressive political donor George Soros' preferred candidates—comparing him to the fictional supervillain “Magneto.” Speaking with Bret Baier on Fox News, former Attorney General Bill Barr said that Special Counsel John Durham's newly released report vindicates Donald Trump. Durham's report concluded that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) did not have sufficient reason to launch an investigation into unsupported allegations that there were ties between Donald Trump's 2016 campaign and Russian officials.
The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (05/17/2023): 3:05pm- On Tuesday, former City Councilmember Cherelle Parker won the Democrat mayoral primary in Philadelphia—and is expected to win the city's general election in November. She would be the first woman to become Philadelphia Mayor. Notably, Parker campaigned on ending safe injection sites, restoring stop-and-frisk policies, and hiring more police officers to help combat crime throughout the city. With 87% of the total vote reported, Parker received 33% of the vote. Meanwhile, despite support from Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), progressive candidate Helen Gym earned just 21.3% of the vote. Is this the end of Gym's political career? It's unlikely. She's already rumored to be a U.S. Senate candidate in the event Bob Casey Jr. (D-PA) decides not to seek reelection in 2024. 3:25pm- On Tuesday, President Joe Biden met with Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) in hopes of successfully negotiating a debt ceiling increase. No agreement was reached. Earlier this month, House Republicans passed legislation that would cut long-term federal spending while concurrently raising the federal debt limit. 3:30pm- Former City Councilmember David Oh won the Republican mayoral primary in Philadelphia on Tuesday. 3:35pm- According to Fox5, “New York City has begun to convert public school gymnasiums into housing for international migrants in the latest effort to accommodate a growing population of asylum-seekers who have overwhelmed the city's homeless shelter system.” The controversial policy has led to wide-spread, massive protests being led by parents. You can read more here: https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-migrant-crisis-public-school-gyms-temporary-housing 3:45pm- According to a report from The Daily Wire's Ryan Saavedra, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has sent over 1,000 soldiers/law enforcement officers to Texas in order to help the state secure the U.S. southern border. You can read more here: https://www.dailywire.com/news/florida-sends-800-soldiers-300-law-enforcement-officers-to-help-secure-u-s-border-in-texas 4:05pm- According to reports, the USDA is considering a ban on chocolate milk in public school cafeterias. 4:10pm- While being interviewed on the red carpet of the 2023 GLAAD Media Awards, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre criticized states with bans on gender affirming care for minors. She also stated: "These are our kids. They belong to all of us." 4:30pm- On Tuesday, billionaire Elon Musk spoke with David Faber of CNBC. During the interview, Musk said he would continue to speak freely on Twitter “and if the consequence of that is losing money, so be it.” He also criticized progressive political donor George Soros' preferred candidates—comparing him to the fictional supervillain “Magneto.” 4:50pm- Speaking with Bret Baier on Fox News, former Attorney General Bill Barr said that Special Counsel John Durham's newly released report vindicates Donald Trump. Durham's report concluded that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) did not have sufficient reason to launch an investigation into unsupported allegations that there were ties between Donald Trump's 2016 campaign and Russian officials. 5:05pm- The Drive at 5: Dr. Wilfred Reilly—Professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University & Author of “Taboo: 10 Facts You Can't Talk About”—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to discuss President Joe Biden's statically inaccurate claim that the greatest threat to America is white supremacy. Dr. Reilly also talks about a hilarious/bizarre Daily Mail article about a female social media influencer who complained that when she wears skimpy “booty shorts” to the gym, she receives unwanted male attention. Dr. Reilly adroitly explains, “I go to bars in a shirt that says, ‘Here to Fist-Fight,' but I am sick of all these fights.” 5:20pm- In a newly released 328-page report compiled by Senator Marco Rubio's (R-FL) office revealed that just prior to the COVID-19 outbreak, Chinese government officials pressured bio-labs to produce breakthrough medical advancements regardless of safety concerns. The report also concluded that COVID-19 likely originated at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. 5:40pm- John Yoo— the Emanuel S. Heller Professor of Law at the University of California at Berkeley & a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to discuss Special Counsel John Durham's report which concluded that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) did not have sufficient reason to launch an investigation into unsupported allegations that there were ties between Donald Trump's 2016 campaign and Russian officials. Will anyone be held accountable? 6:05pm- On Wednesday, Montana became the first state to ban the China-based social media application TikTok when Governor Greg Gianforte signed a bill into law. The statewide ban goes into effect until January 1st, 2024. 6:25pm- During an interview with CNN on Tuesday night, a 5th grade teacher from Florida condemned the state's policies of removing conversations about sex and sexual orientation from public school classrooms. The teacher argued that your rights as a parent are gone when your child is in the public school system. 6:40pm- S.P. Sullivan of NJ.com writes: “A new law limiting concealed carry of guns in New Jersey suffered another defeat in federal court Tuesday as a judge ordered state officials not to enforce its tight restrictions pending a flurry of legal challenges from gun rights advocates. The ruling means New Jerseyans with proper permits are free to concealed-carry handguns at beaches, public parks, bars and restaurants—places from where Gov. Phil Murphy…sought to ban firearms in an effort to curb gun violence.” You can read Sullivan's full article here: https://www.nj.com/news/2023/05/gun-rights-advocates-win-major-challenge-to-njs-tough-concealed-carry-law.html
X-Factor #72, Wolverine #48, Nick Fury Agent of Shield #29, Marvel Comics Presents #78. Theme Music: Lazlo Hollyfeld – Buffaloallamericacity
#440 Embracing Your Delicious Fate - Richard comes bearing great news for those who seek seduction via pizza. His guest is the hottest new act in comedy right now, the incredible Jordan Gray. They talk about the smell of elephant dung, why she wasn't allowed to set herself on fire on TV, a visit from Magneto, a double-teaming Bros, the erudition of Paloma Faith, Twitter storms, political footballs and why she is first and foremost a comedian and the lengths that people will go to to get into a toilet. Plus another amazing story of ridiculousness emerging from love and a billion Richard Herring sex robots.Come and see us live http://richardherring.com/rhlstpSUPPORT THE SHOW!Watch our TWITCH CHANNELSee extra content at our WEBSITE Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/rhlstp. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Maddy, Ryan, and Todd struggle through the second half of Dark Phoenix (2019), which abandons all of the decent ideas set up in the first half of the movie. Forget about Jean's dad, it's all about the D'Bari now ... and also Magneto, who doesn't need to be in this movie, despite that Michael Fassbender provides a great performance. We conclude our revisiting of this movie's failures by asking Simon Kinberg to send us his other script ideas. He listens to the show, right? Next week's episode: We're taking a break for a week, then starting up the Wolverine anime! Visit our STORE: teespring.com/stores/the-mutant-ages E-mail us your feedback at themutantages@gmail.com or follow us on Twitter at TheMutantAges, MIDImyers and RyanPagella. Our guest Todd Harper is on Twitter as well at @drtoddharper. If you like what you hear, please consider supporting us via patreon.com/themutantages. Thanks!
Power of X-Men: The Greatest Comic Book Podcast in All of the Multiverse!
We have Minimated on the podcast to discuss FCBD Avengers/X-Men #1, Captain Krakoa, minimates, and toy collecting back in the day!
Power of X-Men: The Greatest Comic Book Podcast in All of the Multiverse!
We have a new Captain Krakoa and he is NOT a good guy. We assemble our top 5 suspects!
On this episode of the Penny Bloom Podcast, hosted by Colton Robertson and Joseph George, we continue our journey through comic book film. This week marks our second X-Men flick: X2: X-Men United.
This week on New Release (episode #161) … baby mutants Derrick and Drew go back to a special time in superhero cinema. Before we had a 30+ film MCU there was only X2. Well, there was Superman and Batman and Spider-Man and X1 but still, seeing comic book characters on the big screen in 2003 felt more exciting, somehow. Wolverine, Prof X, Rogue, Jean, Magneto, all your faves are back … along with newcomers like Nightcrawler and Lady Deathstrike. I know it sounds crazy, but were the early aughts actually peak superhero filmmaking? From Raimi's Spider-Man movies to Nolan's Dark Knight? Or is that nostalgia talking? Either way, it's blockbuster season on the podcast so search ‘New Release' on Spotify or Apple to subscribe. Stay tuned for another huge sequel for next week. Get full access to New Release at newrelease.substack.com/subscribe
As humanity creates a cure for mutation, the X-Men must come together after the death of their leader Professor Xavier to not only battle those that wish mutants didn't exist but also one of their own. Jean Grey rises from the ashes with unstoppable powers & worse teams with their arch enemy Magneto. Wolverine, Storm, Beast, and the younger X-Men must stop Jean & Magneto at no matter the cost in X-Men: The Last Stand! We also discuss season 3 of Star Trek: Picard, seeing Return Of The Jedi on the big screen for it's 40th Anniversary, the latest trailers that hit this past week, and preview next week's film, The night Comes For Us! Visit us for all episodes & more at the www.therebelradiopodcast.com Please leave us a 5-Star review on iTunes! You can also find us on Spotify iHeartRadio Follow us on Facebook
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On this episode of the Penny Bloom Podcast, hosted by Colton Robertson and Joseph George, we continue our journey through comic book film with DAREDEVIL starring Ben Affleck.
Power of X-Men: The Greatest Comic Book Podcast in All of the Multiverse!
Mr Scott Free is a Marvel Legends collector! We review the VENOM SYMBIOTE box set!
Today we talk about an alien man named Arnus who was turned into a baby and raised on Earth as Augustus Freeman, and a human woman named Raquel Ervin who saw his powers and convinced him to become the superhero called Icon, with her as his sidekick Rocket. Today's mentioned & relevant media: -Icon (1993) -Steel (1994) #7 -Superboy (1993) #7 -Superman: The Man of Steel (1991) #36 -(Worlds Collide (1994) reading order) -Justice League of America (2006) #27-28, 30, 33-34 -Milestone Forever (2010) #1-2 -Static Shock Special (2011) #1 -Milestone Returns (2021) -Icon & Rocket: Season One (2021) -Blood Syndicate (2022) #1, 3, 5-6 -Icon Vs. Hardware (2023) -Milestone 30th Anniversary Special (2023) #1 -Young Justice (cartoon) -Superboy: The Man of Tomorrow (2023) #1 -The Flash (2016) #797 -Nightwing (2016) #103 -2023 Hellfire Gala variant covers -Magneto (2023) announcement Thanks to Victoria Watkins for our icon! Support Capes and Japes by: Checking out our Patreon or donating to the Tip jar Find out more on the Capes and Japes website.
Your Stupid Minds comes at you with our fifth X-Men related movie, this time it's the 2019 flop Dark Phoenix, another halfhearted attempt to adapt the Dark Phoenix saga without bothering with the Phoenix saga. The X-Men are assigned a mission by the president to save some astronauts stuck in space. Though the mission is successful, Jean Grey (Sophie Turner) is blasted with an evil space cloud that starts to make her act cool. However, the coolness goes too far when she can't control her new power. She tries to learn more about her past, and comes across Magneto's (Michael Fassbender) mutant island sanctuary of Genosha (though in this movie it looks like a small plot of land in western Connecticut). Meanwhile, Vuk (Jessica Chastain), a shapeshifting alien of the D'Bari race, is looking for Jean so she can… take the power, harness the power, trick Jean into helping her? It isn't entire clear. But she's evil. Can the X-Men save Jean, or will this conflict tear them apart? Will Disney reboot the franchise after their Fox acquisition? How many times can we predict the second part of every line in this movie? How much was Hans Zimmer paid for this killer score? You'll have to listen to find out (though we don't answer most of these questions). Also a quick update: Your Stupid Minds will be at this year's Comicpalooza in Houston, Texas, to discuss Halle Berry's Catwoman LIVE! The convention is Memorial Day weekend, May 26-28, so come check us out!
Mike, Paloma and Nick talk comics they've been reading and have a small discussion about on A Flag To Fly #1. Note: Nick's audio sounds a little robotic due to a recording issue -- we have not replaced him with an AI Bot!Check out the A Flag To Fly #1 Kickstarter here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aflag2fly/a-flag-to-fly-1Follow Chris Solis: https://www.instagram.com/CSolisComics/Timestamps00:00:00 - Start / Last Week in Comics00:00:57 - Phantom Road #200:08:14 - Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou00:11:54 - Black Cloak #2-400:20:11 - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Trial of Krang00:26:13 - Insomniacs After School Vol. 100:28:47 - Danger and Other Unknown Risks00:34:01 - Top of Our Pile00:34:42 - The Forged #200:40:27 - Batman / Superman World's Finest Vol 1: The Devil Nezha00:42:26 - Discord Picks00:43:08 - One Eight Hundred Ghosts00:45:04 - A Flag to Fly -- a Kickstarter00:52:17 - Wrap / CreditsMusic provided by Infinity Shred. Find them on Bandcamp.IRCB Avatars by @ICELEVELProducer: Mike RapinProoflistener: Brian MurrayEditor: Zander RiggsSupport us on Patreon to get access to our Patreon-only series: IRCB Movie Club, Saga of Saga, Giant Days of Our Lives, A Better Batmobile, and more! patreon.com/ircbpodcastEmail: ircbpodcast@gmail.comTwitter: @ircbpodcastInstagram: @ircbpodcastDiscord: discordapp.com/invite/E8JUB9sReddit: ireadcomicbooks.reddit.comIRCB GoodreadsMerch: shop.ircbpodcast.com
Excalibur #42, Wolverine #47, Avengers #339, Nick Fury Agent of Shield #28, Spider-Man #15, Deathlok #4, Marvel Comics Presents #75. Theme Music: Lazlo Hollyfeld – Buffaloallamericacity
Power of X-Men: The Greatest Comic Book Podcast in All of the Multiverse!
We reunite with Cole-El to breakdown the Utopian era! From Mike Carey to Necrosha!
A movie that everyone and their mother loves! But we aren't parents yet folks, and hoo howdy, you may be surprised what we think of the X-Men's triumphant reboot back to the silver screen! Help us get to 50 Patrons by the end of the year so we can cover every Pixar movie! - Sign up for $3 and listen to our patreon episode on Glass Onion Join our Facebook Group - Facebook
Power of X-Men: The Greatest Comic Book Podcast in All of the Multiverse!
Polaris in the house! We have an incredible time speaking with Emma Dumont from The Gifted! Familia, we tackle all of it: from the mutant metaphor to the MCU to real world-politics. This is an episode you don't want to miss!
In this episode, we discuss the cool Jeep Concept Vehicles debuted at Easter Jeep Safari 2023. Tune in to hear a fresh new episode of the Northwest Jeepcast. Look for bonus content at patreon.com/nwjeepcast. Magneto 3.0 Jeep Concept Jeep Scrambler 392 Concept 1978 Jeep Cherokee 4xe Concept Pink Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4xe Concept Grand Wagoneer Overland Concept Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4xe Departure Concept Jeep Gladiator Rubicon Sideburn Concept https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-moab-easter-jeep-safari-concepts-first-look-review --Visit Northridge4x4.com for all your Jeep needs and listen for a special coupon code. And follow us @nwjeepcast on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube and Facebook.
Power of X-Men: The Greatest Comic Book Podcast in All of the Multiverse!
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On this episode of the Penny Bloom Podcast, hosted by Colton Robertson and Joseph George with special guest Robert Trott of COLIN BRAIN VS THE MCU, we dive into Fox's seminal 2000 release: “X-Men.”
Power of X-Men: The Greatest Comic Book Podcast in All of the Multiverse!
What a Friday! We got three titles revealed for Fall of X and we break it all down!
In this episode:Mike and Ed discuss the end of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The X-Xen claim that Magneto and Toad have been kidnapped by an inter-dimensional being, Mastermind is dead, and Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch have retired to Eastern Europe. Are any of those things okay? Should there be an investigation into Mastermind's death? Should there be a rescue mission to recover Magneto (and Toad)? Are super-terrorists just allowed to retire? Is that a thing? Mike and Ed have some divergent opinions. Where do you stand?Behind the issue:Clearly this is not the true end of Magneto. He returns in X-Men #17 (February 1966) and it is eventually revealed that he escaped from the Stranger by stealing a spaceship and returning to Earth, whereupon he immediately tried to kill all of the X-Men.In this issue:The X-Men detect a super-powered being of unknown origin, and seem a little nervous about it. Meanwhile, a tall man with a shock of white hair moseys through the city, walking on air and through walls - he is clearly the super-powered being and is ultimately referred to as the Stranger - until he finds Magneto and his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The Stranger battles Magneto and his team, overpowering him. He turns Mastermind into a solid block of matter, and then the X-Men burst in and start battling the Brotherhood too. Ultimately, the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver confess to the X-Men that they are quitting the Brotherhood, having repaid their debt to Magneto. The Stranger then kidnaps Magneto and Toad, flying off into space with them, with the X-Men powerless to assist.Assumed before the next episode:People are wondering whether they are more safe, knowing that a super-powered alien can overpower Magneto and take him into space.This episode takes place:After the Brotherhood has been disbanded in a very unorthodox manner.Full transcript:Edward: Michael, it's the end of an era. It's the end of the brotherhood of evil mutants. They are no longer a brotherhood. They're done.Micheal: problem solved.Edward: I'm sure there'll be other problems out there, but it is nice that one of the big super terrorists hanging over the head of our country is no longer an issue anymore. The X-Men have reported that Magni and the towed, the leader and one of the members of the brotherhood have been kidnapped, detained by some sort of alien being. And, the three remaining members, two have retired and one is apparently dead.Micheal: So there's a bunch of stuff that comes out of it let's. The X-men at their word and say that, what'd they say? An alien took Magni and towed awayEdward: some sort of alien or interdimensional being someone who's not from here, it was you who said that. How do you define an alien? An alien is someone not from Earth? And it sounds like this guy's not from Earth.Micheal: So let's just call him just for sake of convenience. See, this alien is taking magni and towed away, so that's okay. Fine, but. Do we just leave it at that? If say a kindly grandmother and her,Edward: wanna hear where you're going with this,Micheal: kidnapped by an alien, would we just be like, oh, well, aliens, you know, aliens, they just, they just kidnap peopleEdward: I think. I think, well, I think, well, hey, I think there's a difference between a grandmother and a.Micheal: But why is there, I mean, the point is like there isn't actually likeEdward: no, there's no if, if, wait a minute, you're arguing. There's no difference between a terrorist and a grand.Micheal: But not certainly.Edward: Who is your grandmother?What is your grandmother like? Michael?Micheal: I loved my grandmother's. I did, but what I'm trying to say, I'm not comparing, I'm not saying that you've gotta treat your grandmother like a terrorist, but you probably need to treat terrorists as human beings. I mean, or criminals or accused. Criminals still have the same rights as the, as the rest of us, and so,Edward: Do they, do they do They have the same, right?Like do,Micheal: of course they do.Edward: Like I have the freedom of movement. I can go around and I could go to the grocery store, I can visit my mom, I can visit my grandmother. But if you're a terrorist and you committed a crime, we put you in jail. You don't have freedom of movement anymore. Let's, we take that right away.Micheal: No right's been taken away. There's been no trial of Magni in towed. Like right now. Right now, they are men that might be accused it's been allegedly committed crimes, and if they're convicted of it, then sure, some of their civil liberties will be taken away restricted. My point is that if, the X-men come and say, don't worry guys, an alien stole these two people and took them away, what's the response like? We're now not alone in the universe and we know that and, so we must be considering. There could be these alien abductions and we need to have a response to it. I'm sure if your grandmother was kidnapped by aliens, you'd want to have some kind of response. You'd want Reed Richards to get into a spaceship and chase down those aliens and rescue your grandma.Edward: Absolutely. Well, lemme put an asterisk. I think that's true. Unless my grandmother was a terrorist, in which case, you know what, I'm okay. You can leave her. It's a terrorist exception. Terrorist exception to grandmother kidnapping.Micheal: Don't think there is an exception to it.So I'm saying that the public sympathy might not be there, but if, let's just make it more earthbound. If an accused terrorist was in a boat that caught the wrong tide and the engines out and it's going out to sea, would you expect the Coast Guard to go rescue that person?Edward: I think so,Micheal: yes. You wouldEdward: yeah. You'd want go and capture those. You wanna capture them. I wouldn't want the Coast Guard to rescue them. You. I want them to go and capture them.Micheal: I know, but, the law works that you actually would have to, you have an obligation to try to rescue them. I think you do have an obligation to do that. How you treat them after you re rescue them is another matter.Edward: Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's correct. I think the difference is a little bit is. That the amount of resources and effort it would take to capture a boat floating in the ocean is a little different than the amount of resources it would take to capture an interdimensional kidnapping. There are a lot of Coast Guard people that can go and help a lot of people who get trapped in boats. Mm-hmm. I think we have to be, we have limited resources for capturing interdimensional, kidnappings. We have like what, four or five people on the planet that can do that for?Micheal: What did Reed Richards go to space for recently? Didn't he go for some kinda personal reason, like,Edward: well, it was semi-personal. It was, his father-in-law had been killed by the scrolls and he went and negotiated a peace treaty with the scrolls as part of that peace treaty, the person who this individual scroll, who killed his father-in-law was put to justice on the scroll home world.Micheal: Yes. So personal. So, okay, got it. So anyways, what I'm trying to say is that I understand your point, we're not gonna bankrupt the entire Earth to save Magni, but the question has to be asked, to what extent do we actually extend ourselves with respect to not just leave inside the terrorist part, which is hard to do, but leave it from the, what is, what is the extent to which we will actually take steps to address interplanetary crime or aliens. Now we don't have to worry about just bad guys on earth doing bad things to people, but people from other dimensions or other worlds doing bad things to our people. So what's our response? And I don't know what it is yet, but right now it seems to be.Okay. It's too bad. See, later Magnis. See later tote, you're going to another planet or another dimension or something.Edward: So, hey, maybe the answer is, we put it onto Reed, Richards to-do list and he can prioritize it versus all the other things. If there's a bunch of grandmothers but that been kidnapped, let's get to the grandmother's first. And Magni can be somewhere further down the list and maybe somewhere on his list. Getting flying cars to the masses. And personally, I'd rather have flying cars be a common consumer purchase product than save Magni. Like, that's my own personal priority list.Micheal: Typical, typical capitalist and socialist kinda conversation. But anyways, to move on to the next point, so let's assuming that the X-men are telling the truth, right? What if they aren't? How do we know that aren't the truth?Edward: You and your, decept, you think not everyone's a lie. Like why would they be lying about this?Micheal: Well, because they've been fighting because Mag's been trying to kill the X-Men. And so then they come back and say, Hey guys, uh, what?Edward: To be fair, to be fair, Mag's been trying to kill everyone. That's not just the X-Men,Micheal: but they've been in hand, hand combat with him and they have, so the X-Men come back and say, Hey, hey guys. Uh, yeah. So anyways, you know that guy that was trying to kill us? Yeah. He's gone. Oh. Oh, really? What happened? Ah, An alien took him away. Oh, okay. Problem solve. There's no recourse or ability to investigate to see whether they're telling the truth. The expert aren't the good guys,Edward: but, but hold on. Even if they did, so let's, let's say they were in battle with Magni. If they told us, Hey, we were in battle with Magni and towed, and in the course of that battle they were killed. Well, that seems like a defensible position as well. They didn't need to make up this alien abduction thing. They could have just said Magda was trying to kill us with his magneto powers, and in the process we blasted him to smithereens.Micheal: I think that if the X-Men came back and admitted to killing Magni and Toad, let's not forget about Toad admitted to killing these two people.Everyone does, but you know, I dunno what his power is.Edward: He's like a rounding error. Hey, to Toad was like the first public he was the first public mutant. Remember back in the day, he was the one that tried to cheat. He was cheating in the track meet. And that's how we knew about mut.Micheal: Okay, so he's not doing so well in being a valuable member of society, I guess. But my point is that if they came back and said, we killed these two people, it is different than saying we had nothing to do with them until this disappeared. I think that there is a world of difference between how the processes that have to be followed you know what I mean? SoEdward: I don't knows happening. Yeah. They killed the world's most dangerous terrorist. I don't think people would be that upset with them. And they can be reasonable as from a self-sense point of view, because we know that Magda was trying to kill them.So they have a self-defense. I think the, the, also, also, also, one of them is dead, right? So they, the mastermind, one of the brotherhood of evil mutants, the X-Men have reported he's dead. No one seems upset about that particularly.Micheal: I know I'm asking questions cause I find it weird. I find it to be the weirdest thing that people are just like, oh, well, oh well, oh, well the X-men say that these people are gone or disappeared or stolen away or are dead.Oh, well the X-men say it, these people that no one knows who they are, but you know, goodbye me. But it's okay.Edward: But it's not that. It's not, oh, well it's, congratulations. Congratulations. You've eliminated a threat. A threat. But my point is, if they're gonna lie, why wouldn't they just. All three of them got taken away by an alien.What would they say? Two got taken away by an alien. One was killed, and two retired to Eastern Europe.Micheal: Super criminal Mastermind Ed. I don't know. I'm not saying they're super criminals, but look, if a police officer shot somebody in the street, the special investigations unit would be involved. Sure. And it'd be a whole process. I think there should be no different than if a mass vigilante part of a group that may be associated with the government. Kills somebody that there should be an investigation as well, and it should be public.Edward: Yeah. Look, this is different than, this is more like a soldier kills, another soldier in combat.And so there's no crime scene investigation when that happens.Micheal: I'm, that's because the rules of war applied. I mean, there's been an act.Edward: This is the war, war with this brotherhood, people.Micheal: We aren't No, no. Right now. It's right now if there're terrorists and it's crimes that they're committing, it's not actually a war.So I think the laws, the laws also to apply. Yet there has to be an equal application.Edward: They're terrorism laws.Micheal: Yeah, but those are different. It's not the same as being at war with the terrorist. That's not how it works. There's still is be, if you shot somebody. He was a terrorist.Edward: No, no. Yeah, but it's, you can't do it after the fact. You can't just go start killing people and calling them terrorists after the fact. I'm talking about these guys are identified terrorists before the fact, and they're committing terrorism and we know that they are. We need to go and shut them down somehow.And I think the X-Men did that. So, and it wasn't like they were, they weren't like totally brutal about it. Like two of them retired. Can we talk about that for a second? How come they retire? Talk about is is retirement from terrorism an option? Is that a thing?Micheal: Okay. Before we get there, that's a really good question. But before I do, I just wanted to finish up this one point. Just say what you're basically saying is a toad who looks kind of like an odd guy. And he's just goes down to the grocery store, you get a bag of chips and someone sees him and says, Hey, he's a terrorist, and he shoots him.That'd be, that'd be fine, is what you're saying.Edward: No, that wouldn't be, that would not be, because the problem is that there'd be too many mystique identities. People be, start shooting random people and being like, I thought you were to. It's not my fault. I'm sorry.Micheal: You're just an ugly person that seems to run fast.Edward: He looked like a runner. That's why I shot him. Look how he jumped over that aisle. Like that was the end of him.Micheal: Or they, or they shoot, they shoot Magni. It's like, why? It's like I saw the silver War move around him and I thought he was like, instead it was just, you know, this like tremor.Edward: There's, yeah. So that, that to me, that's the bigger issue is not that toad is dead. It's that I don't want people using that as an excuse to go and kill track.Micheal: Right, because you want, because you want equal, equal application of the law. That's the whole point, of having, being civilized society.Edward: I know. All I'm saying is I'm not sad that Tow and Magnier were gone and that Mag Mastermind is dead. But can we call, can we talk about the retirement? No, neither. Can we talk about retirement now? Nevermind. So Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch apparently said, Now that we, the rest of my team is gone, we're not gonna continue in our villainous ways. We're just gonna move back to Eastern Europe and what Hang out. Like that's it. We're done. Like, is that like we're hired for terrorism. That's, we're done.Micheal: I, another odd thing, it's like, oh, well, you know what, and I don't think they even said we see the air of our ways.They're just kind of like, I'm done with t. My boss is dead or gone. So, uh, anyways, uh, I'm just gonna go hang out at the beach or just not be arrested. Like, like, I mean, isn't this the right time for say the Avengers or the X-Men to go over and arrest them if they have the power to do so?Edward: Yeah. You think so?Micheal: Most of their team's gone and then they committed crimes.Edward: Yeah, we've had this issue before, right? Where are these people even like presentable, like quick Quicksilver is like so fast. Can you actually hold them anywhere? The Scarlet Witch apparently has witch powers is able to like, Be witch things like can we actually hold them and maybe we can't hold them.Maybe the answer is like okay, we have two choices. We can take them at their word that they're done committing crimes and let them go do something or we can murder them. Are those the two options?Micheal: Yeah. So we're treating them like, like what? Like an angry elephant. You know what I mean? Like, just, just stay away.Like That's right. Antagonize the elephant. They might trample, you know, your tent, but if, uh, you know, the elephant doesn't seem to be interested in us, let them walk on by the whole pride of elephants or whatever. What's it called? It's a pack. Pack of elephants.Edward: Pack of elephants. Herd. Is it a herd of elephant?I don't know. I don't, these are, these are questions that people wanna know, but we had a herd of mutants a herd of evil mutants murder, a murder of mutants, a murder of mutants. And, now there are two, but apparently we've done, and look, I guess I question whether or not that's actually true and whether these two are gonna come back and cause havoc in the future. And so I don't know what, what to do at this point. Like, I, but I think you're right. Like murdering them seems like a little overkill given the fact that they. Said that they're not gonna do any more bad things.Micheal: So shouldn't the priority then be like, I as, you know, I don't lean towards imprisoning people, but I guess the priority should be about figuring out ways to do that, right?Because I don't think it's consistent with my view about equal application and being equal before the law. I don't think it's a good idea for society to allow people to commit crimes and just let them walk away because they say they're done committing those crimes. I also don't think it's good for society just to murder them or let aliens kidnap them. But I do think that maybe you could have a system in place to imprison them, keep them away, and hopefully rehabilitate them. But like you say, I don't think we have the capacity for it, just.,Edward: that's Mike. Just, just sitting on the fence. You won't murder them and won't let them walk away.Micheal: Classic. Keely just refuses. Refuses to kill people. Unhappy about them getting away with their crimes. What?Edward: Can't make a decision.Micheal: Can't make a decision. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com
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