Out of the Box

In Matt's first episode as our new co-presenter, we are joined in the studio by writer/director David Robinson-Smith. Hailing from Budgewoi NSW, David’s interest in film first started in primary school leading to a stint at the Australian Film Television and Radio School where he directed his Master's film Mudcrab which was a 'Short of the Week' Pick, won a host of national and international awards, and was nominated for Best Short Film at the 2024 AACTA Awards. His followup, We Used to Own Houses, was also critically acclaimed and won Best Short Film at CICLOPE Asia 2024, was nominated for Best Direction in a Short Film at the 2023 Australian Director’s Guild Awards and won Best Short Film, Best Innovation and Best Original Score at the 2024 St Kilda Festival. We’re so excited to have David join us in the station today to talk about his film career to date, his upcoming feature projects and his latest short, The Shirt Off Your Back which is showing tonight and next Monday, June 9, at the Sydney Film Festival which is on until sunday, June 15th. The Shirt Off Your Back at the Sydney Film Festival 2025 Mudcrab (2022) We Used to Own Houses (2023) David's Instagram Matt's Instagram This episode was produced and edited by Zaity Salman. Out of the Box is recorded at the fbi station in Redfern, which is on unceded Gadigal Land. We pay our respects to Gadigal elders past and present and recognise the ongoing colonial violence committed across this country. Wherever you’re tuning in from in so-called Sydney, the land always was, always will be, Aboriginal land. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today’s episode is one for the history books. After Béla Hajdu’s departure from hosting the show last month, the Out of the Box team are excited to introduce our new co-host: Matt DO! You might be familiar with the sound of his voice, holding down the fort from 12-2pm every Sunday since 2023. As a broadcaster, Matt has contributed so much to the station already - both on and off air. His music and guest selections are so considered and a reflection of his impeccable taste and the experiences that have brought him to where he is today. This episode is a chance for you to get to know Matt if you haven’t tuned in to Sunday lunch before, and to understand more of his love for music, arts, and culture. This episode was hosted by Kate Saap and Matt Do. Produced and edited by Zaity Salman. LINKS Matt's Instagram Kate's Instagram Movies Matt Mentioned: Fox and His Friends (1975 writ. &dir. Rainer Werner Fassbinder), Lady Vengeance (2005, writ. Jeong Seo-kyeong & Park Chan-wook, dir. Park Chan Wook), My Neighbour Totoro (1988, writ. & dir. Hayao Mizaki), The Hole (1998, writ. & dir. Tsai Ming-liang)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today we’re joined in the studio by Sophie Penkethman-Young – artist and digital producer living and working on Gadigal Land Sydney. Sophie’s work has exhibited at Artspace (2025), Seventh Gallery (2019), Verge Gallery (2021), Liveworks and Mais Wright while she’s produced digital work for the Sydney Opera House, Creative Australia, Carriageworks and Firstdraft as well as right here at FBi! Sophie’s work deals with how ideas and experiences translate digitally and incorporates mediums like video, essay, sculpture, photography and performance. Sophie’s work has us obsessed with the questions of what separates the organic world from the digital, her digital projects and sculptures invokes feelings of surveillance, the fracturing of the individual into countless duplicates and a whole bunch of other ideas that we get into today! This episode was hosted by Kate Saap, produced by Zaity Salman and edited by Madison Jackson. LINKSSophie's website Sophie's exhibition , AMONGST THE CLOUDS on NOW until 20 July 2025 Sophie's Instagram Kate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate talks chats with Al and Ulrich from the seminal NSW band, Cloud Control. One of the defining groups of the 2010s indie rock scene, Cloud Control are back touring to celebrate the 15 year release of the debut, breakout record, Bliss Release. Al and Ulrich join Kate in the studio to talk getting the band back together, opening for Arcade Fire, and the joys of sharing music with your friends. Tickets to see Cloud Control + purchase Bliss ReleaseCloud Control InstagramPursuit of HappinessKate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla and Kate commemorate Béla's last week hosting the show. The two talk about songs guests have brought in that have taken on a life of their own with Béla, the importance of community spaces, and whether or not Béla should watch Love Actually. Kate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

* This episode had some technical difficulties - that's community radio for you!* Today’s guest is no stranger to my FYP, and perhaps yours too. Harry Jun is a multi-hyphenate comedian, cartoonist and host of the show Good Game: Spawn Point on ABC and Say Kimchi for SBS Audio. Freshly returned from a stint at Edinburgh fringe, Harry joins us to chat about his winding path to comedy, the experiences that lead him to today and to his touring show Friendship Safari. This episode was hosted by Kate Saap and produced by Zaity SalmanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with Wytchings, the solo project of Sydney / Eora based experimental musician and artist Jenny Trinh. Wytchings released her latest solo EP, Fear Is A Cold Star, late 2024. Jenny is also a member of the experimental, improvisational collective Worlds Only, and recently formed Heart Armour, who's single White Flag, was the Independent Artist of the Week in January. Jenny is in the studio talking her practice, horror visuals, and finding the perfect mannequin. Wytchings InstagramFear Is A Cold Star - WytchingsWhite Flag - Heart ArmourWithin Heaven and Earth - Fairfield City Museum & GallerySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with Chloe Hayman, the editor-in-chief of independent, Sydney / Eora based print magazine, Soft Stir.Soft Stir's latest release, Stories of Collision, is more of Soft Stir's unique blend of art, music, culture, and philosophy through the lens of colliding objects and ideas. Chloe Hayman helps shepherd those ideas as the magazine's editor, platforming emerging creatives, designers, and writers.Chloe joins Béla in the studio to talk falling into becoming an editor, the Overview Effect, and why Sade might be the perfect roadtrip soundtrack. Soft StirChloe Hayman's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today we're joined in the studio by singer, songwriter, rapper and artiste DEVAURA. Born in Aoetoroa and now based in Dharug Country in so-called Sydney, Davaura is a mainstay here at FBi. With her creative, innovative and energising lyrics and beats, Devaura has the unique ability to ensnare her listeners as she takes you on an odyssey of love, loss, power and excitement. A recent SMAC Award winner for ‘Best Live Act’ Devaura’s newest single ‘MEET YOUR MAKER’ just released and you can listen to it wherever you find great music. Today we’re going to get personal with Devaura and discuss the music and stories that have taken her through the winding path of her life to where we are now. This episode was produced and edited by Zaity Salman. If you'd like to listen to the episode in full, head to fbi.radio and head to the Out of the Box show page. CATCH DEVAURA AT GREAT SOUTHERN NIGHTS AT THE VANGUARD NEWTOWN - DETAILS HERE Devaura's Instagram - @devaura.fm Kate's Instagram - @M1ss_Kate Zaity's Instagram - @thatssozaitySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on Out of the Box, Kate Saap is joined by Gadigal-based Choreographer, performer and director Emma Harrison. Watching Emma perform on the stage, the words visceral, emotional, free-following, experiential and dramatic come to mind. But her creative practice extends even beyond this, with works encompassing voice, film and theatre. Ahead of the premiere of her show HIGH OCTANE at the Campbelltown Arts Centre on Friday March 28th, we’ve got Emma here to talk about the music and stories that have influenced her life to date, her multidisciplinary practice, reconnecting to the world through our bodies and movement, and which Severance character she looks like (hint: it’s definitely who you think). This episode was produced and edited by Zaity Salman. Instagram: @emma_harrison__ Website: https://emmaharrison.info/about Link to High Octane: https://events.humanitix.com/high-octane Kate’s instagram: @m1ss_kate Zaity’s Instagram: @thatssozaitySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla chats to Sydney/Eora based experimental musician, AnSo. AnSo is the artist moniker of producer, songwriter and performer Soie An. Their latest album It’s Myself That I Crave was voted in at number 5 on last year’s Wettest 100 album countdown.AnSo joins Béla in the studio to talk about how performance informs their work, experimenting with found sounds, and dancing in public fountains.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate talks with Alix Higgins, one of the most exciting voices in contemporary Australian fashion around right now. Alix Higgins was named the 2023 Australian Fashion Laureate emerging designer of the year, and was one of the finalists for the National Designer Awards. Alix joins Kate in the studio to chat all things pop girls, fashion memes, and how to level up your style. Alix's InstagramAlix Higgins WebsiteKate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate talks with Mallrat, right off the back of the release of her brand new album, Light hit my face like a straight right. Mallrat and Kate chat using your voice as an instrument, preparing to tour with Kylie Minogue, and how Jason Derulo is the modern Prince. Light hit my face like a straight rightTour ticketsMallrat's InstagramKate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Co-host of the show Kate Saap and co-producer Zaity Salman chat for an hour about makeup, rnb, and being radically yourself. They have had so much fun over the past year working on the program and are so excited to talk to new guests when out of the box returns. Kate's Instagram This episode was produced and edited by Zaity Salman.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate reunites with Skeleten, to talk about his brand new album, Mentalized.Album of the Week this week on FBi, Skeleten chats about how his process has developed on this new record, the importance of making music with friends, and his feelings on generative AI.MentalizedSkeleten's InstagramKate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today we are joined by actor, writer and producer (check) Chika Ikogwe. You might recognise Chika’s face from Netflix’s Heartbreak high where for two seasons (going into a third) she plays Series Regular, Josephine ‘Jojo’ Obah – the lead teacher for SLTs (pron. Sluts). Chika has been in whole bunch of projects including ABC’s Mikki vs. The World, feature film Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire and recently Land of Bad alongside Russel Crowe and Liam Hemsworth. On stage, Chika has starred in a number of productions including Malthouse’s seven methods of killing kylie jenner and Queensland Theatre’s Fangirls, which later moved to Belvoir. As a writer, Chika has written for the series Bump on Stan in addition to developing her own show, Just Chidi Things (executive produced by Rose Byrne). China’s latest show, Never Have I Ever premieres on February 15th at the MTC — more details here https://www.mtc.com.au/plays-and-tickets/whats-on/season-2025/never-have-i-ever/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we get a little meta with Co-Host Kate and Co-Producer Madi interviewing each other! We chat about the importance of pop music, community being a crucial part of creativity, and sweating in the studio. Kate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, Co-producer Zaity chats with actress, communication creative, advocate and pretty cool person, Simone K. Smith. Born to a Black Zulu mother and White Australian father in Melbourne – Simone’s childhood saw her bouncing between LA, Durban, Melbourne, NY and now to the OOTB studio where she shares with us the experiences that have led her to becoming an advocate for Black representation on Australian screens. Simone’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maison.smiths/?hl=en Zaity’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatssozaity/?hl=en Supacell Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frmk94Etedo SXSW Event page: https://schedule.sxswsydney.com/speakers/d2c43344-2397-4f3b-b244-16db7af7c4efSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today's guest has a long and storied history with FBi and we are so stoked to have her join us today. Anna Lunoe is a Eora Born DJ, vocalist, songwriter and producer. Some long time listeners may recognise Anna's voice from right here on FBi Radio where years ago she began as a volunteer and met her long time  friend and ‘Hoops' collaborator Nina Las Vegas.   Back in Sydney after an 8 year stint in LA, Anna has just recently dropped her debut solo album PEARL and is here today to share with us her auspicious beginnings, the winding and forever evolving path of her music career, her family, culture as a Lebanese and Danish woman and the what's next on the horizon. Anna's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annalunoe/?hl=en Deets on ‘Pearl' and Anna's upcoming tour dates: https://linktr.ee/annalunoe Kate's Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/m1ss_kate/    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla chats to Sydney/Eora based poet, educator, and poetry slam founder, Troy Wong. Troy's work has been published in Cordite Poetry Review, Australian Poetry Journal, and Solid Air. Troy is a National finalist in the Australian Poetry Slam and the founder, host, and creative director of Bread & Butter Poetry Slam.He joins Béla in the studio to talk sacrificial poets, teaching experiences, and being in an "inter-swiftie" relationship.Troy's InstagramBread and Butter Poetry Slam InstagramBread and Butter Poetry November "Slampionship"Hera Lindsay Bird's PoetrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate talks with Bonnie Huang, an Eora-based artist and FBi alum, who recently wrapped up their first solo show at Puzzle Gallery. Bonnie joins Kate in the studio to talk all things drippy art, yearning, and the wonders of jelly. Bonnie's InstagramBonnie's Art InstagramParramatta Artists' Studios 2024 Fellowship RecipientRace to RedfernKate's InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with all of Naarm based band, Floodlights. Floodlights have shot to international recognition over the last 5 or so years with a loose, yet powerful and earnest sound. They've got two records to their name, and have just released their latest single, ‘Can You Feel It'. All 5 of them join Béla in studio to talk about their recent tours across Aus and internationally, what's coming up for the band, and who does the most band admin. FloodlightsFloodlights InstagramCan You Feel It - Music VideoLessons Leant - Live at Meredith FestivalSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate talks with Elliot Ulm, aka Elliotisacoolguy. With over 500k followers and subscribers across multiple platforms, Elliot Ulm is a graphic design content creator, comedian, and keen Washington Wizards fan. He joins Kate in the studio to talk all things graphic design and music. Elliot's InstagramElliot's YoutubeGRAPHIC DESIGN IS MY ELLIOT - PodcastKate's Instagram This episode was produced and edited by Zaity Salman.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with one of Naarm's most-loved dance exports, Harvey Sutherland.Keyboardist by trade, solo artist, producer and club DJ, Mike Katz is better known under his moniker Harvey Sutherland, where he's been exploring the deepest corners of the pocket over the last decade. Releasing a plethora of his own EPs, singles and a debut album, Harvey's work traverses the worlds of electro-house, jazz and funk, and he's worked with and remixed artists like Nubya Garcia, Khruangbin and Genesis Owusu. Harvey brings his latest track, Hummingbird, into the studio, alongside an eclectic mix of tracks as he talks through his life and creative practice. Harvey SutherlandHarvey Sutherland new single - HummingbirdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate talks with Gabi Basioli, independent jeweller and owner of Piece of Work. Kate talks to Gabi about how she came to jewellery making, her many forms of creative expression, and her love of the ephemeral Ratatouille movie. Piece of WorkSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kate talks with Sita Sargeant, owner and operator of Canberra-based women's history walking tour She Shapes History. Kate talks to Sita about her recent six months long epic across Australia, searching of untold women's history, her dedication to storytelling, and how music has intersected with her life across all this.She Shapes History InstagramBook a TourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with owner and operator of Dulwich Hill venue Lazy Thinking - Jim Flanagan. Lazy Thinking programs music 7 nights a week, creating a multi-faceted space for Eora / Sydney music to thrive. Jim talks the Lazy Thinking venue, record label, and how music has intersected with his life and creative practice. Lazy ThinkingJim FlanaganLazy Thinking - InstagramLazy Thinking Records - InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with legendary Eora / Sydney DJ, creative, and events organiser, Annabelle Gaspar. Annabelle is an iconic DJ, playing renowned parties like Mad Racket, Kooky, Loose Ends, Trough, Club Mince and co-founding Bad Dog, and playing alongside club royalty like Frankie Knuckles. With an upcoming Bad Dog x House of Mince party, Annabelle is here to share stories with us about Eora / Sydney's nightlife peaks, her projects past and upcoming, and how music has intersected with her life and creative practice. Annabelle GasparBad Dog x House of Mince - Love Come Set Me FreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with trumpeter, composer, and improvisor, Nick Calligeros. Nick is part of composer/improvisor collectives Microfiche, We Will Intersect, and Soft Spot, and has also released two independent solo EPs. Over the course of his career he's garnered a deep musical CV with credits including working with Middle Kids, Tangents, Human Noise, Kim Churchill and legendary Sydney experimental group Alaska Orchestra, as well as with their founding member Meg Alice Clune. With Soft Spot releasing it's self titled debut, he's with us to share stories about his projects, and how music has intersected with his life and creative practice.Nick CalligerosSoft Spot Debut RecordWhat Is Soft Is Also Strong - IlexSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Béla talks with filmmaker, Riley Blakeway. Riley is a filmmaker who's career spans many different eras. He's made music videos for the likes of Genesis Owusu and City Calm Down, amongst many others, and you might of seen his iconic short film INVINCIBL3, premiering on the international video channel NOWNESS. With his newest film ‘A Thousand Odd Days' currently out for competition at various international film festivals, he's with us to share stories about his life in film, and how music has intersected with his life and creative practice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on Out of the Box, Kate Saap chats with marine scientist Peta Morton.  Peta is a communication specialist at the Australian Marine Conservation Society, working to demystify the world of ethical and sustainable seafood for consumers.  In addition to her non-profit work, Peta is a beauty influencer on Tiktok melding her love of science and art to discuss perfume, makeup and skincare.  Catch up with us as Peta recounts her disastrous first attempt and creating a perfume, the importance of science communication in a social media age and how music led Peta to her found family in adulthood.    Follow Peta on Tiktok @Petamarine  Check out the GoodFish sustainable seafood guide here: https://goodfish.org.au/ This episode was hosted by Kate Saap, follow her on instagram at M1ss_Kate This episode was also produced and edited for podcast by Zaity Salman @thatssozaitySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A few weeks ago, Kate managed to fulfil her dream of becoming a sports journalist when she interviewed Sydney Swans AFLW players Alice Mitchell, Montana Ham, and Sofia Hurley. Ahead of the AFLW 2024 season start, Sydney Swans super fan, former OOTB presenter and current host of Wildcard, Stuart Coupe, joined Kate in the studio to discuss his lifelong passion for the Swans. Producer Zaity Salman aso chats with Kate about how they first got into (watching) the sport. This episode was co-produced and edited by Zaity Salman.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Join us for Tanya's final interview with the lovely Nazlican (Naz) Eren – host of FBi's Sunset with Nazty Girl (on Wednesday's at 6pm) and co-founder of One Off Traks, a community focused on amplifying the music of women and non-binary artists here on Gadigal Land.  Find Tanya on instagram at @t_4_n_y_4_ and Nazlican at @sunsetwithnaztygurl TalkPopDrillTracklistMore EpisodesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kate chats with Eora-based hairdresser, Odesa Sabile! Odesa talks us through growing up in a Filipino family, how she finds the confidence to be herself and how important hair really is when it comes to affirming and loving ourselves. Odesa's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/extrasilky/Kate's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/m1ss_kate/ This episode was produced and edited by Zaity SalmanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tanya Shukla chats producing, learning to love your art at all stages, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 with Eora-based musician, visual artist and skateboarder Kyle Shakleford . @milohunterband  @pablo_bic_asso  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode Béla chats with Eora-born and raised artist/producer, Cherry Rype. They talk her musical origins in the womb, somatic healing and getting vulnerable through sound. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this week's episode, Tanya Shukla interviews Amy Zhang (dancer, choreographer, movement director). She has changed the way Eora thinks of dance and movement - representing courage, trust in one's self and honest self-expression.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After some time to relax and mow his lawn, Genesis Owusu is back on stage at Volume Festival at AGNSW this July. Kate Saap and Genesis Owusu sat down to discuss absurdism, being a freak, and how much they love curry chips.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The guest today is an absolute powerhouse, and no stranger to the FBi airwaves. They are a DJ, an organizer of one of Eora's most important party series, and a host here on the station. The passion and love that runs through everything that they do is heartwarming! Isa Thurn is interviewed by Tanya Shukla about her life, her creative practise & where she finds inspiration in this crazy world. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tony Sin, the saviour of professional wrestling, joins Kate Saap in the studio to peel back the curtain with us about all things wrestling, music and being a sinner!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today's guest is an inspiration to those that want to surprise themselves. Interviewed by Emily Elvish (on her last show with OOTB), Kat Rose is a stylist, photographer and designer who has worked with the likes of Eartheather, and Mulalo. Under the alias of Rose Pure, Kat's life has been defined by her passions and the creative journey of worldbuilding.  --- The OOTB team would like to thank Emily Elvish for all her hard-work, dedication and passion she has shown over the past 5-months. As an incredible story-teller, and even better friend - Em will be missed & the team wishes her all the best with all her future creative projects

Today's guest reminds us of the power we have within ourselves to shape the world around us. Zi Nori has lived a remarkable life - he is currently the Director & Co-Founder of Umi Nori - a bespoke tailoring studio, but his love for creativity & people, has shown itself throughout his life. Whether it was skate-boarding, or even playing the guitar, Zi has always been drawn the deeper feelings of life.  In this episode, listen back to hear Kate Saap interview one of the coolest people in Eora, about how trying new things is the key to a fuller, richer life!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.