A podcast for reenchanting the church. Deep yet practical conversations about the church, the arts, and bringing them back together. A podcast of the Anselm Society.
Listen to Brian Brown's talk from the 2024 Square Halo "Return to Narnia" conference. Maybe you've absorbed the fake C.S. Lewis quote that you ARE a soul and you HAVE a body. Or maybe you grew up in an environment that only valued time if it was spent getting people into the elevator going up. If so, you probably struggle to live in the world as you ought, because you have no theological or mental category for most things between idolatry and indifference. So you can't find a place for many of the things you love most in the kingdom of God. We have to fix our relationship with material reality. In the Chronicles, Lewis gives us a fictional world that very clearly has meaning and magic woven into every layer of it. The reason that appeals to us is that it is a reflection of our world as we're supposed to see it, even if we've forgotten. In this talk, Brian offers a threefold way of relating to material reality--and our vocations in it--that explains why you love the things you do, and what to do with them.
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Why did God tell Adam to name the animals? When you think about it, it's an odd time to quit creating. He left it to humankind to look for the significance of the things He made, to derive meaning from it, and to join with Him to put the finishing touches on things for which He obviously had a clear vision. Understanding the dignity and responsibility inherent in the role of naming not only allows us to better understand our relationship with the created order, but also our relationship with God, the first Creator and Namer.
The Bible is filled with time because God's revelation is always historical—a story of moments both old and new. God reveals who He is and what He's doing within our ongoing story, our ongoing time. In this episode, Glenn Paauw shows us how the movement of the biblical narrative is always toward God entering into our time more and more deeply. It is a story of restoration, in which only through time is time conquered.
These days we tend to take a dim view of the past. We struggle to overcome things (personal or corporate) we wish we could go back and undo. But Christianity teaches a different way of viewing the past: one in which “remember” is one of the most frequent commands in Scripture, in which gratitude is a discipline rather than a feeling, and in which nothing is outside the reach of Christ to redeem. In this episode, Heidi White will explore the posture that can enable Christians to be conservers of the goodness and beauty they've inherited, and restorers of things that have been broken.
Tolkien talked about “subcreation” - this thing we do when we take something God has made and create with it. When we try to make creation about ourselves—our pride, our desire for affirmation, and so on—we only make things harder. But when we understand it properly, our subcreation is a middle act between God's first creation and His second—and the culture we build together becomes, as Andy Crouch put it, part of “the furniture of eternity.” In this episode, Matthew Clark explores this second of three aspects of our creative task as humans (cultivation, subcreation, and naming).
At last year's Imagination Redeemed conference, Christina Brown and Amy Lee shared about the art of gardening and God's story. They covered their own journeys into gardening, how their experiences cultivating God's creation changed their relationships with Him and their families, and much more. In this episode, we revisit their talk on gardening and creative cultivation as part of our "Why We Create" series and in preparation for our upcoming Imagination Redeemed conference.
Cultivation is a lost art for most of us. It requires paying attention—understanding each person and thing in its proper way. It requires love—viewing everything as the Creator does; not just as it is but as it can grow to be. And it requires agency—viewing ourselves not as a scourge upon nature but as people designed to be a blessing to it. In this episode, Brooke McIntire reads Gracy Olmstead's essay exploring how a posture of cultivation equips us to create as God made us to create.
In preparation for Heidi White's keynote session on the Art of Christian Memory (which she'll give at our upcoming Imagination Redeemed conference), this episode revisits a talk she gave at our 2020 artists' retreat. In this lecture, Heidi explores the two different attitudes we can have toward the past, and how each needs the other in order to healthily live in the present. This balanced perspective encourages courage and fortitude in artistry, but also serves as a primer on political theology as well.
How are we supposed to grapple with the past—the good, the bad, and the ugly? Why does the Bible talk about remembering so much? And can storytelling be a way to use the past to remind ourselves who we are? In this episode, Brooke McIntire shares this month's essay by Heidi White on mythmaking, and the questions surrounding creation as an act of shared memory.
Christ's incarnation is the spark of Christian creativity. Poet, rock musician, and priest Malcolm Guite joins the show to make the case for this, journeying through Shakespeare and the Gospel of John. He also tells us why he loves the Anselm Society's name.
Why did God make us? What do our personal journeys represent in the grand scale of things? Is it really true that things like feasting and creating are acts of war against the Enemy that besets us? In this episode, Brian kicks off this month's theme of "Imago Dei" by sharing Peter Leithart's essay Creators Imaging the Creator, which explores the hinge question of our "Why We Create" series: what does it mean to be human?
What is the role of gratitude in figuring out what to do with the time that is given to us? Can we pay attention to what God is doing, in both the monotonous seasons of life, as well as in the middle of life's hardest plot twists? What does the ideal of gratitude look like fleshed out in the nitty gritty? Brian welcomes back writer and storyteller Leslie Bustard to talk about how to cultivate thankfulness, and how it helps us to live well in the present moment. Leslie shares her real life experience in regards to gratitude, and shares a secret: life doesn't have to be ordinary.
Bonus episode! After the conversation with Corey about how Bergson's theory of time influenced the literature of Lewis and Eliot, Jane and Corey take us into T.S. Eliot's poem The Four Quartets to show us an example of these ideas in the text.
Did you know that both C.S. Lewis and T.S. Eliot wrote about Time? About how the present moment is the means by which we touch eternity? Join Brian, Jane, and special guest Corey Latta as they dig deeper into the philosophies that influenced Lewis and Eliot's theology of time, and consequently some of their most famous works like The Screwtape Letters and The Four Quartets. When you understand that your only point of connection with eternity is the present moment, it changes your relationship with your past, your future, and with yourself.
Time is one of those things that's bigger on the inside, and the science of Time gets complex fast. But a good story about Time? A story can push you outside your assumptions and broaden your imagination without giving you a headache. Join Brian in a conversation with Ned Bustard about time travel, Doctor Who, and the big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff.
What if time is more than the passing of moments? What if it's a gift to help us find meaning? And what if the Christian life–in which death itself starts working backwards–can change our experience of past, present, and future? Grief and joy? Memory and expectation? In this episode, Jane reads to us her essay on the gift of time - a gift we will explore further at the Imagination Redeemed 2022 conference in September.
The ascension of Christ at the end of the Gospels leaves Christians with a paradox: how do we sing of redemption and joy, and in the same breath lament evil and suffering and pray "how long, O Lord?" In this bonus episode, Pastor Chris Stroup of Anselm's founding church uses the Ascension to show how we, who have had eternity opened to us, should approach the realities of living in a time-bound world that still wrestles with evil.
The world around us deserves our awe and wonder, but we can make the error of believing the good things of this world are the best we can have - we can idolize the creation and forget the Creator. On the other hand, if we believe that because this world is secondary to the next then all of our earthly endeavors are meaningless, we can be indifferent to God's works. Is there a third way? In this episode, Brian shares Hans Boersma's essay on "How to Look for Heaven in Earth," and how living in the created order can ready us to better know the Creator Himself.
God's workmanship and His character are crackling through every fiber of the world that we live in. Brian and Heidi dive deeper into concepts like "the Earth is charged with the grandeur of God" and challenge our categories of the physical and the spiritual, and what we mean by heaven and earth.
Creation is redeemed, not abandoned, because creation tells the story of God's glory in its own unique way. Brian shares Paul Buckley's essay to help us better understand how to read the "book of Creation."
Brian and Heidi explain our season focus (Why We Create), and tee up the big question: what is the relationship between eternity and what I do with my time now?
In which we kick off the 2022 season with an introduction to creation theology, and an explanation of everything that is to come this season.
In the kickoff talk for Imagination Redeemed 2021, Brian Brown tells the story of Creation like you might not have heard it before, and sets up a whole season's worth of questions about how to live the Great Story, and how to make every aspect of your life a part of it.
Brian Brown introduces the next chapter of Redeemed Imagination...and how to continue the conversation with us.
How do you write fantasy without just trying to write another Lord of the Rings? How did Tolkien's faith (and particularly his Catholicism) inform his approach to writing? What did his home life look like? What were his views on women, anyway? With the help of a live Zoom audience, Brian interviews Word on Fire scholar and (forthcoming) Tolkien biographer Holly Ordway.
Amy Lee, one of the Anselm Society's Arts Guild directors, reads her short story, "The Ferryman," which was featured in the previous episode. You can find the story text at https://www.amybaiklee.com/2016/09/20/the-ferryman-part-1/.
Pastors: you want to get artists more involved in the life of the church, but where do you begin? Artists: how can you respond (or initiate)? Anselm Arts Guild co-director Amy Lee and her pastor, Kevin Boaz, share the story of what happened when Kevin asked Amy to read an original story in a Sunday morning service.
What does it look like to create for others? For community? How can people learn to interact with art, rather than just look at it or listen to it? How can we be people who are defined by seeking magic and meaning, rather than discouraging such behavior? Brian interviews Jonathan Pageau to learn from the ancient practice of icon carving. Find Jonathan Pageau on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/pageaujonathan.
In our continuing series discussing the unique call of the Christian artist ("centric genius"), Brian interviews Lancia Smith about her work with The Cultivating Project.
In our continuing series discussing the unique call of the Christian artist ("centric genius"), Brian talks with John Skillen about the ways in which the church used to create art together...and just maybe, how it can do so again.
In which Brian, Heidi, and Lancia summarize the concept of the "centric genius" and discuss its implications for both artists and churches. In this, the second part, we get into the implications for church, and whether we have to give up being "weirdos."
In which Brian, Heidi, and Lancia summarize the concept of the "centric genius" and discuss its implications for both artists and churches.
What is a centric genius? Why does Christianity need more of them? In this episode of director's notes, Brian Brown tees up our entire winter-spring content series.
Does Father Christmas belong in Narnia? Brian picks a fight, we continue Lewis and Tolkien's debate, and along the way, we hit on how to portray morality in literature, and even the true meaning of Christmas gifts.
After a trip to France ruins Heidi for normal life, the group discusses food, art, and why hospitality has always played a central role in Anselm Society gatherings.
Therapist, songwriter, and priest Josh Bales thinks Christians can get to a healthier place when it comes to bringing together mental health, faith, and science.
In this lecture from Anselm's 2019 Rocky Mountain Artists' Retreat, Lancia Smith explores the relationship between being true to your calling, and loving your neighbor--and reveals how relationships can strengthen our calling.
In this lecture from Anselm's 2019 Rocky Mountain Artists' Retreat, Father Jeromie Rand from Denver's Church of the Advent explores how learning how to love God through your craft can unleash the full potential of who you were made to be.
Fresh off the 2019 Rocky Mountain Artists' Retreat, we pick up some threads from the retreat: is "artist" something you'll be for eternity? Should you look inward or outward as you seek to answer the question, "who am I?" And what does it mean for God to redeem and perfect your creative work?
A few years ago, Phil Ryken wrote a satirical list of how to make your church an unhealthy place for artists. We noticed that a lot of the things on the list would also apply to pastors! In this episode, we explore the gulf that often separates pastors and artists...and wonder if it's not nearly as wide as one might think.
At Imagination Redeemed 2019, Amber Salladin led this breakout group in an interactive and song-filled exploration of the singing community. Amber joined us from Manhattan, where she is the music director at Emmanual Anglican Church, and pianist and conductor for various choirs and orchestras.
At Imagination Redeemed 2019, Junius Johnson delivered this lecture on the "sacred theater" of art for the fallen world. We bring the divine to the ordinary, because there is no such thing as “ordinary.”
At Imagination Redeemed 2019, John Skillen delivered this lecture on the historical role of art in shaping Christian communities. Skillen focused on how to move beyond the narrow bounds of the art typically used in church today, to a wider spectrum of art forms and uses, designed to do one thing: build the people of God.
At the Imagination Redeemed 2019 conference, Hans Boersma gave this lecture on the Psalms and worship to kick off the weekend. Boersma dwelt on sacred art, created for the central activity of the church for all eternity: corporate worship. In worship, we remember who we are, the heavenly tapestry in which we have been invited to participate; and we encounter God Himself, by Whom all things were made.
If an artist visited your church, how would they know they'd be welcome? How does a congregation become a place known for its hospitality to artists? How can church leaders foster ministries that nurture artists, so that the arts become not simply a fun add-on or gimmick, but an integral part of the life of the church? In this episode, we talk about five things we've seen churches do to become artist-friendly places.
What does it mean to create art for church worship? In this panel discussion from the Imagination Redeemed 2019 conference, Hans Boersma, John Skillen, Junius Johnson, and Brian Brown discuss sacred art: what it is, how we lost it, and how we can bring beauty back into our sanctuaries.
What is the role of art in spiritual formation? What does it look like to form Christians? Maybe the pastor and his sermons don't have to be quite so alone in that task.
Does beauty matter? If you're listening to this podcast, you probably think the answer is obvious. But would you go so far as to say it is essential to Christianity? Is it, in fact, impossible to do Christianity well without it? In this episode, we argue exactly that.
What is a Christian imagination? Is it the same thing as a Christian worldview? In this episode, we explore how it is possible to be a practicing Christian yet still see the world through mostly secular eyes--and imagine what it would be like if a renaissance of the Christian imagination actually took place.
Imagination isn't about fantasy, nor is it the province of artists. In this episode, we debate imagination's role in how we understand the world around us...and how we live.