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Mark grew up in the heartland and brings a lifetime of Oklahoma experience to WWLS – The Sports Animal. The Sooner State native graduated from Blackwell High School and received his degree from the University of Oklahoma. Since 1995, Rodgers has owned and published the state’s most comprehensive football annual, The Oklahoma Pigskin Preview. His travels across the state have earned him a reputation as one of the region’s foremost experts on high school football and college recruiting. Rodgers hosts the “Middle of the Day Show” from 11am to 2pm Monday through Friday. 

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    Hour 2: Hand, Foot, & Mouth Disease

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 43:23


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss the Brent Venables contract extension. Was the timing of the extension surprising to you? Are you surprised that Deshaun Watson was named the starting quarterback in Cleveland? Will he last the entire season? Is it right that, even with a monster lead, Scottie Scheffler has to win this weekend at East Lake in order to be the PGA Tour Champion?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: OU & OSU Week 0 Update

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2026 40:28


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy give and update on OU and OSU practice and what to expect from these two teams as we head closer to Week 1 of the College Football season. Have you tried the flavored Busch Lights? Wyndham Clark’s dominant win at the BMW Championship in St. Louis this weekend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Mark Brown & R.J. Ochoa

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2026 44:50


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark today. Mark Brown, writer and publisher of Extra Points, discusses the business of collegiate athletics. Are college teams overspending on their players due to an inability to verify why these “agents” are telling them? R.J. Ochoa, from Blogging the Boys covering the Dallas Cowboys for SB Nation, previews the upcoming season and why there is reason to be optimistic as we approach Week 1.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: SEC & Big 12 Win Totals

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2026 39:52


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark today. Gideon opens the show discussing college football win totals in the SEC. Is it worth it to take a juiced over 7.5 for OU, or would you take them to win 9 games for odds far more in your favor? Big 12 win totals in the upcoming season. Does the Oklahoma State win total moving to 6.5 change the way you would bet on their season? Which of the NFL teams in action in the preseason tonight are you most interested in this upcoming season?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: You Betcha!

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 40:32


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark today. Gideon plays the inaugural game of “You Betcha.” How much would you bet against OU to lose any of their individual games this season? Are you all in on the New Mexico Lobos? Thursday daytime baseball is getting hectic; we give you a live update.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Davis Cordova

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2026 42:44


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark today. Gideon discusses Major League Baseball last night, including the White Sox stealing the final game of the series from the Cubs to avoid the sweep. Did you expect the White Sox to be competitive? Which two games for OU and OSU would you want to know the result of to get a gauge for the season each team will have? Davis Cordova, from the Norman Transcript, discusses the upcoming OU season, and what to expect from the retooled offensive line?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: David Stone & Jayden Jackson

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2026 42:14


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark today. Gideon and Cale Gundy discuss two standout defensive lineman starting for Oklahoma this season – David Stone and Jayden Jackson. What stood out to Cale about these two guys when he attended OU practice. Who is the best offense that OU will play this season? What do some of the best coaches in the country have in common? What is going on with Paul Skenes?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Armadillos

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2026 39:27


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark today. Gideon and Cale Gundy discuss the College Football preseason poll and which teams may or may not still be in the Top 20 at the end of the season? Eric Morris said that he had to take out an armadillo at his home. What is your strangest encounter with an armadillo? Do you buy that Art Briles at one point agreed to be the head coach at Texas before changing his mind later?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Jeff Johnson

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2026 39:30


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark Rodgers today. What is your confidence level that each of the teams in the College Football Preseason Top 10 will finish the season in the Top 20? Jeff Johnson, from O-State Illustrated covering Oklahoma State for On3, previews Oklahoma State football as we head into the season and names some of the players winning some key position battles. Why is Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers salary cap circumvention met with such apathy?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Casey Kendrick

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2026 42:18


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark Rodgers today. Jeanie Buss is contesting her brothers’ attempts to sell their remaining stake in the Los Angeles Lakers. Does Pete Crow-Armstrong have a legitimate case for why he should be the MVP in the National League? Casey Kendrick, from TV 31 in Stillwater, previews Oklahoma State’s season and how well Eric Morris could fare in his first season at the helm. Which current team in the NFL would be most likely to move to an international city?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Preseason College Football Rankings

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2026 38:14


    Brad Copeland and Cale Gundy discuss Oklahoma State headed into the season, after Cale attended their practice last week. Did you hear Joey McGuire’s latest comments regarding their summer scandals surrounding Brendan Sorsby? How much stock do you put in preseason college football rankings? Does it reflect badly on Jayden Daniels that his people sent a cease and desist to LSU after another player is wearing number 5 this season?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Russell Westbrook's Legacy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2026 45:40


    Brad Copeland and Cale Gundy reflect on Russell Westbrook’s career and how much he has meant to Oklahoma City. Joshua Baez hit 3 home runs in his Major League Debut. After getting drilled in their first preseason game, does Jaxson Dart need to reign it in to keep himself healthy for the Giants? What goes into a coordinator choosing to be in the booth or on the field? After attending OU and OSU practice, what were Cale’s biggest takeaways from spending time with both teams?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: OU–Texas Prognostication

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2026 40:15


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss the OU-Texas game and compare the two programs as we head into the season. Do you think OU could have more players drafted than Texas at next years draft? Is anyone talking about Arch Manning winning the Heisman? NFL joint practices began yesterday. Breaking news of Russell Westbrook’s retirement.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Oklahoma State Expectations vs. Reality

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2026 42:10


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss the controversy surrounding the Tulsa little league baseball and softball teams. Did you know JT Realmuto is from Del City and was committed to Oklahoma State? What do you think of the White Sox pope hat giveaway? Should Oklahoma State fans aspire to higher expectations than surpassing the Vegas win total? Are you surprised that the Vikings named Kyler Murray the starting quarterback?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: CFP Expansion

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2026 44:51


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland are joined by Damon Lane from KOCO Channel 5 to discuss his upcoming bobblehead night at the OKC Comets game. What is the best stadium giveaway in Major League Baseball this season? What do you make of the CFP management committee discussing a playoff expansion to 20 teams? The NBA Schedule for 2026-2027 is out now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Oklahoma State Expectations

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2026 39:51


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland discuss the controversy at the Little League World Series after both the Tulsa softball and baseball teams have been accused of cheating. Do you like Memphis and Birmingham? Should Oklahoma State Football always have expectations to win 8 games in a season?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Are the Cowboys For Real?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2026 42:30


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss NFL Training Camp and the Dallas Cowboys. Are you buying Cowboys stock amidst all the hype this preseason? What do you make of a preseason scuffle between Kirk Cousins and Max Crosby? Is that the biggest fight mismatch of all time? Are baseball fans right to be upset with the Dodgers? Should all Major League Baseball teams have an Old Timers Day like the Yankees? Who are the best football players in the history of Purdue?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: OU First Padded Practice

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2026 44:00


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss OU’s first padded practice. What did Cale see this morning spending time at practice, specifically with the TE’s and coach Jason Witten? The annual freaks list in college football has been published. Who do you like on that list? Did you watch the first episode of Hard Knocks? What do you think about the Seahawks rookie running back, Jadarian Price? Do you like the NFL teams no longer traveling for Training Camp?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Make the Fullback Sexy Again

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2026 44:05


    Brad Copeland discusses the protect college sports act. Could College Sports teams still maintain the level of interest if they broke off from the institutions of higher learning? Three running backs are now making over $20 million after the signings this week. Is that too much money to pay a running back? Can you compete for a Super Bowl doing that? Do we need to bring back the fullback?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Lindsay Czarniak

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2026 38:43


    Brad Copeland discusses last night’s Hall of Fame Game. Do you get excited for preseason football, or does the lack of starters ruin the experience for you? Lindsay Czarniak discusses her new show, Gameday Murders, and her upcoming episode featuring Lorenzen Wright’s chilling tragedy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Doug Greenberg

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2026 43:02


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark Rodgers today. Who are the biggest villains in the history of College Football? Doug Greenberg, covering sports gambling for ESPN, discusses the public’s acceptance of the industry as well as the landscape as it currently exists. Bill Barnwell’s article on which current players are sure fire hall of famers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: OU/OSU Football “Free Play”

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2026 41:34


    Gideon Hamilton in for Mark Rodgers today. Dale Day, voice of Remington Park, discusses the change in the Triple Crown scheduling and the upcoming race weekend at Remington Park. If you could guarantee one win on the OU/OSU schedule, which game would you place it on? Jake Trotter, college football writer for ESPN, previews the season, now just 3 weeks away. Do you think Ole Miss deserves rings for their semi-final appearance in the College Football Playoff last season?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: College Football Landscape

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2026 41:07


    Brad Copeland and Cale Gundy discuss the protect college sports act in front of congress. Should we be relying on the US Government to help fix college football? Are we seeing a shift in college football to a more pro-style offense? What do you expect from John Mateer headed into this season?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: OU Football Preview

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2026 45:36


    Brad Copeland and Cale Gundy discuss the OU receiving corps. Is there a breakout star in this unit for the Sooners? How does a guy like Jaydn Ott go from disappointing at OU, to signing with the Kansas City Chiefs? Is this group of transfers where we see the hiring of GM Jim Nagy pay off?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Nikola Jokic's Future

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2026 40:26


    Brad Copeland discusses the MLB Trade Deadline. Do you hate the Dodgers deal with Tarik Skubal, or does their robust farm system make them deserving of the top prize at the deadline? Do you think Nikola Jokic is setting himself up to sign with another team after his contract is up in two years? We play a new game called “Dueling Broadcasts.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Training Camp Turmoil

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2026 42:48


    Brad Copeland discusses NFL Training Camp. Do you think Bijan Robinson is worth the money Atlanta just paid him? Why are the Browns having a quarterback battle? Can training camp turmoil hurt your regular season? Are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers disrespecting Baker Mayfield by only offering him a 2 year contract extension? What do you anticipate seeing from the OU wide receiver corps this season?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Football Fever, cont.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2026 41:42


    Gideon Hamilton and Cale Gundy discuss the framework of the college football coaches offices? How is a college coaching staff and day to day different than the NFL? What is the ideal facility makeup for a college football program? MLB Trade Deadline update. With Notre Dame and USC agreeing to play again, is that the best rivalry in college football?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Football Training Camp is BACK

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2026 44:01


    Gideon Hamilton and Cale Gundy discuss training camp in the NFL and College Football. What are the day to day operations like when you’re in the middle of that grind. How many years of eligibility should a college athletes be granted? Should there be more strict guidelines and less ambiguity to the extra years of eligibility? Have you seen the new Notre Dame $100 Million Football Facility?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Oklahoma High School Football Preview

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2026 44:17


    Mark Rodgers breaks down his high school football magazine and gives you a preview of the top teams from all the different classes in Oklahoma. What do you make of Harrison Bader’s scooter injury fiasco? Did you know this isn’t the first time he’s had a scooter related situation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: The Underdog Sooners

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2026 44:00


    Mark Rodgers discusses the MLB trade deadline. Do you expect a lot of movement in the coming days? NFL training camp is here! What are some of the way too early Week 1 lines? Who do you expect to breakout on the OU roster this season. Should OU be 6 point dogs to Texas? Mark’s High School Football preview is coming soon! The best NFL preseason breakouts for every team.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Best Athletes in Oklahoma History

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2026 46:30


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland discuss the Monster Energy sponsorship in the Big 12 conference. Do fans care about the cap circumvention by the Clippers to pay for Kawhi Leonard? Who are the best athletes to play college in Oklahoma? Will Bill Belichick ever get it figured out in North Carolina?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Oklahoma State Win Total

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2026 45:21


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland open the show discussing yesterday’s Major League Baseball action. Did you see the Cardinals come alive in extras against the Cubs? Oklahoma State’s season prediction. Is predicting 8 wins for the Cowboys too much considering the Vegas win total of 5.5? Are you surprised Baker Mayfield doesn’t have a deal done now that training camp is here? Tony Romo’s arrest video.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: College Football Conference Depth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2026 44:48


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss the OU Schedule and their potential to win 9 or more football games. What do you make of Tony Petitti talking about the depth of the Big 10 conference compared to the rest of the country? Who is the third best team in the SEC behind Georgia and Texas? NFL Training Camp is underway. Why would the Lions not want to have joint practices?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: CFP Expansion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2026 44:29


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss the downturn of the St. Louis Cardinals. Should Oli Marmol be fired in a season that surpassed all expectations, even if they miss out on the Wild Card? What are some college football win totals that you are excited about? Big 10 commissioner, Tony Petitti’s comments on College Football Playoff expansion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Pat Strathman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2026 46:21


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland are joined by Pat Strathman, who was on the call for last night’s Wichita St. and Kansas mele last night in the TBT. What are the ramifications of the event for the TBT, the teams, and the Universities of which these players are affiliated? Is all publicity good publicity? Should the Buccaneers end the negotiation and sign Baker Mayfield to a deal?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: White Fire Returns

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2026 46:22


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland discuss the Wichita St. & Kansas mele last night in the TBT. Is Mark’s 9 win OU prediction too high, too low, or just right? The MLB Trade Deadline is right around the corner. Should the St. Louis Cardinals be buyers or sellers at the deadline? Is there a competitive imbalance in Major League Baseball? White Fire makes his return to the show after a long hiatus.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Jackson Koivun

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2026 44:34


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy ask the question were you surprised there were no OU players on the Preseason All-SEC 1st Team? Jackson Koivun had a historic win at the 3M Open this weekend. Should he be a member of the President’s Cup team this year? Are you surprised Dante Moore was not preseason first team All-Big 10?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: CFP Odds Board

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2026 44:36


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy discuss LeBron’s signing with the Philadelphia 76ers. Would you have wanted LeBron to sign in OKC if you had the option? Did the Big 12 make a mistake selling a jersey sponsorship for the entire league? College Football Playoff odds. How many teams outside of the SEC and Big 10 are at the top of the odds board?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: LeBlockbuster Signing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2026 40:28


    Mark Rodgers discusses LeBron James blockbuster signing with the Philadelphia 76ers. Is he a difference maker on a championship team? Could it hurt Texas and Sark that he was so honest at the podium at SEC Media Days? How did Mark get on the pirate ship at Raymond James Stadium?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: OU Win Total

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2026 46:27


    Mark Rodgers discusses his trip to SEC Media Days. With all the buzz from the media about OU, how many wins do you project for OU? Is the hype for Texas overstated, or does spending the most money in the portal merit this buzz. Is LeBron James a difference maker in Philadelphia for the Sixers? The MLB trade deadline is coming up. Where, if anywhere, will Tarik Skubal land?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Paul Finebaum & Jeff Lebby

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2026 44:40


    Mark Rodgers is live from SEC Media Days in Tampa, Florida. Lane Kiffin took a shot at teams that still recruit and develop the old fashioned way. Which teams in the country have the highest homegrown/retention percentage? Paul Finebaum on the SEC and OU outlook headed into the season. Mississippi State head coach Jeff Lebby joins Mark to talk about his program and their tough game with OU. Terry Ford, from 107.5 The Game in South Carolina, discusses the Thunder as well as the outlook for South Carolina this season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Ryan Silverfield & Lane Kiffin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2026 37:34


    Mark Rodgers is live from SEC Media Days in Tampa, Florida. On the final day, Mark reflects on some of most memorable moments from the week, including hopping aboard the Buccaneers pirate ship. Ryan Silverfield discusses being doubted and his teams tough outlook for the 2026 season. Lane Kiffin discusses the possibility of adding a salary cap and structure to college football.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Bobby Burton & Cousin Shane

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2026 44:02


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy are live from SEC Media Days in Tampa, Florida. Bobby Burton, from onTexas, discusses the Texas Longhorns headed into the season with high expectations. What does Arch Manning need to do to show his improvement as a quarterback? Pete Golding goes off at the podium. Cousin Shane from That SEC Podcast joins the show.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Tye Richardson

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2026 39:32


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy are live from SEC Media Days in Tampa, Florida. Did you see what Chip Kelly was wearing as the Northwestern offensive coordinator? Tye Richardson, from ESPN Arkansas, discusses the Hogs with new head coach Ryan Silverfield. Do Arkansas fans, especially in the western part of the state, consider Oklahoma a rival?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Doug Amos

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2026 42:19


    Mark Rodgers is live from Tampa, Florida at SEC Media Days. Doug Amos, from ESPN 107.5 The Ticket in Montgomery, discusses Auburn Football under new head coach Alex Golesh, as well as the landscape of the entire SEC this season. How long is too long for a road trip?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Ryan McGee

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2026 40:17


    Mark Rodgers is live from Tampa, Florida at SEC Media Days. How did Georgia Head Coach Kirby Smart take inspiration for his team from the Oklahoma City Thunder? Do you like the idea of getting rid of the SEC Championship in favor of playoff expansion? Ryan McGee joins the show to discuss the upcoming season of SEC Football. Would you get on a bull at the rodeo?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: John Mateer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2026 40:05


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy are live from SEC Media Days in Tampa, Florida. Lawyer Jacob Diesselhorst discusses his fight against the NCAA to try and get collegiate athletes awarded a 5th year of eligibility. Voice of the Sooners, Toby Rowland discusses OU Athletics including the baseball National Championship, and previews the OU Football season live from media days. John Mateer joins to discuss the upcoming season and how he will improve on his play from last season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Roger Denny

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2026 42:08


    Mark Rodgers and Cale Gundy are live from SEC Media Days in Tampa, Florida. Thoughts on OU Football following Brent Venables comments this morning. Is establishing the run imperative to the success of the Sooners this season? OU Athletic Director, Roger Denny, sits down to discuss the upcoming football season and all of the success the athletic department has enjoyed this year.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: CFP Expansion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2026 44:01


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland discuss congress weighing in on the NCAA and whether or not there should be a salary cap in collegiate athletics. Is Lottery Bob right that the Yankees will sweep the Dodgers? Is expanding the College Football Playoff to 24 teams sustainable?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 1: Best CFB Games This Season

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2026 39:19


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland discuss Mark’s trip next week to SEC Media Days and what hot spots in Tampa he should try out. What will be the best College Football games this season? Where does OU and Michigan rank on that list? An update on the British Open after two days of play.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hour 2: Aday Mara

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2026 46:11


    Mark Rodgers and Brad Copeland discuss the NBA Summer League. What, if anything, can you take away from the Summer League so far? Does a players impressive performance change your perception of what they will look like in the league? Have your expectations for Aday Mara changed since draft night? Do you have a problem with prediction markets versus traditional sportsbooks? Have you become exasperated with the Caitlin Clark saga?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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