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The hosts on 92.3 The Fan analyze how the Cleveland Guardians managed to stay afloat at .500 despite injuries to key stars like José Ramírez, while debating whether Steven Kwan's recent hot streak makes him a trade deadline target or an indispensable asset. Plus, they weigh in on the team's trade deadline strategy, first-base production struggles between Kyle Manzardo and Rhys Hoskins, and what it will take for Cleveland to win the AL Central.
Chuck Garfien is joined by MLB Network and CHSN White Sox analyst Dan Plesac to break down the White Sox's outlook ahead of the trade deadline. They discuss whether the Sox have a postseason-caliber bullpen, Sean Burke's development, the value of postseason experience on a big league roster, and the team's challenging schedule ahead. Dan also weighs in on FanGraphs' playoff projections for the White Sox and explains why he wouldn't trade places with the Dodgers.
Chuck Garfien is joined by USA Today's Bob Nightengale to dive into the White Sox trade deadline outlook, including which starting pitchers, relievers, and position players could be realistic targets as the team pushes to contend. They also discuss when the trade market will heat up, the chances of a Tarik Skubal deal, the AL Central race, and what Bob is hearing about a potential MLB lockout in 2027.
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Pat Boyle and Kate Constable take a deep dive into tonight's Major League Baseball slate, headlined by an AL Central battle between the Twins and Guardians, two National League Contenders facing off with the Phillies facing the Dodgers, the Yankees playing against the Pirates, in an interleague affair, and more!
Andy and Jeff talk about whether or not they think the Guardians will win the division and if the Tigers are a sleeper team in the AL Central.
Sweet Lou and Ol Gregg are joined by Tom Froeming to talk prospects and the Twins' second half outlook. Tom make a NostaThomas prediction for each AL Central team while Lou and Gregg try to figure out which Old Friends could return to Twins Territory at the deadline. Thank you for following along with the All-Star Podnanza!
Welcome to Episode 177 of Tablesetters. The White Sox were baseball's biggest cautionary tale just one year ago. Today, they're tied atop the American League Central, fresh off selecting the No. 1 overall pick in the MLB Draft, and facing a question few expected to ask this quickly: has the rebuild already given way to a legitimate contender? To help answer that, we're joined by Josh Nelson of Sox Machine. As the host of the Sox Machine Podcast, a contributor to 670 The Score, and lead writer for SoxMachine.com, Josh has documented every step of Chicago's transformation, from a 121-loss season to one of the biggest surprises in baseball. In Episode 177, we examine: • The origins of Sox Machine and how it became one of the most respected independent voices covering the White Sox • Why the White Sox believed Roch Cholowsky was the best player in the 2026 MLB Draft, and what his arrival could ultimately mean for Colson Montgomery and the rest of Chicago's infield • The organizational philosophy behind one of the draft's most celebrated classes, including the additions of Landon Thome, Cole Prosek, Joey Volchko, and more • The Jacob Gonzalez trade, why the White Sox were willing to move a recent first-round pick, and how acquiring the 34th overall selection reshaped their draft strategy • Whether Munetaka Murakami has already become one of the franchise's most impactful free-agent signings and why Chicago may have found its next cornerstone • Miguel Vargas' remarkable reinvention from struggling after the 2024 trade to becoming an All-Star, and what deserves the most credit for one of baseball's best breakout stories • Whether Vargas, Murakami, and Colson Montgomery represent the offensive foundation capable of carrying the White Sox for years to come • How Chicago went from 102 losses to the top of the AL Central in just one season, and whether the underlying numbers suggest this turnaround is built to last • Why the White Sox have become nearly unbeatable at Rate Field while continuing to search for consistency away from home • Sean Burke's emergence, his place among the American League's most improved pitchers, and whether the White Sox have finally developed their next frontline starter • The biggest trade deadline decisions facing Chris Getz and whether adding talent now is worth accelerating the organization's timeline • Whether the White Sox have officially crossed the line from rebuilding club to postseason expectation, where anything less than October baseball would feel like a missed opportunity From draft room decisions to clubhouse culture, roster construction to playoff expectations, Josh offers an inside look at one of the most fascinating stories unfolding across Major League Baseball. Follow us on Instagram and X @TablesettersPod for exclusive clips, updates, and behind-the-scenes content. Subscribe, share, and join us every week. Tablesetters is where stories shape the season.
In this hour of VSiN By The Books, Dave Ross and Jensen Lewis chat Highlights and Headlines before checking in on some bold takes about the AL Central from the VSiN MLB Betting Guide. Also on the show, the Daily Gridiron previews the season for the Minnesota Vikings, and TalkSport chief football correspondent, Alex Crook, joins to break down the World Cup. Get instant access to expert picks, public betting splits data, and pro betting tools when you join VSiN pro. You can take 17% off an annual subscription when you use promo code: POD26. Click Here to get started. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Guardians TV analyst Chris Gimenez joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about his takeaways from the All-Star Game, the Guardians strong finish to the first half of the season, the AL Central standings, and more.
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The Cavs seem to be one of the final teams that are still in contention for LeBron James. Does the Cleveland fan base want him for a third time? Can the Guardians take control of the AL Central in the second half of the season? Rob Manfred puts his foot in his mouth... Again. Hall of Famer Paul Hoynes and Luca from RealCavsFans.com join the program.
The Twins couldn't convert on several chances late before falling to the L.A. Angels on Friday. Steve Thomson takes us through the game and the rest of the AL Central as the All-Star Break looms.
Murakami is rehabbing in AAA and will be in Chicago soon as the White Sox look to stay above .500 in the AL Central. Nate Rasmussen, MLB Draft Analyst @OverSlot / MILB @JustBBMedia joined the crew to discuss the 2026 MLB Draft for the Sox slot selections at 1, 41, 77 in the early rounds of this class. Tune into the pod as we get you ready for the 26' draft this weekend and wrap up the first half of the season!
Amid a brutal four-game skid and a bullpen implosion, chatter has emerged that the Guardians should become sellers before the trade deadline, but Ken and Anthony flatly reject it. They argue there is nobody worth moving since the roster is stocked with cheap, young core pieces like Travis Bazzana, Cooper Ingle, and Angel Martinez who are central to the franchise's future, not trade chips. Anthony points out some of the frustration stems from Cavs fatigue bleeding into how fans view the Guardians, while Ken argues the team still deserves the benefit of the doubt given a weak AL Central and the absence of Jose Ramirez. Rather than a splashy sell off, they suggest smaller moves like adding a reliever or converting a Triple A arm into bullpen depth.
In this hour of VSiN By The Books, hosts Jensen Lewis and Marc Malusis chat Highlights and Headlines before the Daily Gridiron previews the Jacksonville Jaguars season. Also on the show, a July audit of the American League Central and the Daily Docket takes a look at early Heisman odds in college football. Get instant access to expert picks, public betting splits data, and pro betting tools when you join VSiN pro. You can take 17% off an annual subscription when you use promo code: POD26. Click Here to get started. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Nick Wilson and Jonathan Peterlin analyze Ohio State's potential with Julian Sayin and the loaded offense before shifting focus to the Cleveland Guardians' recent defensive issues. The conversation evaluates Travis Bazzana's long-term fit at second base and assesses the tightening race in the AL Central. 01:00 - Ohio State Football Expectations 04:51 - Guardians Defensive Performance 07:40 - Travis Bazzana Positional Fit 11:04 - AL Central Division Race
Nick and Jonathan discuss where the Guardians stand in the AL Central. Then, they're joined by Ashley Bastock of Cleveland.com, and they react to sound bites and storylines from around the sports and entertainment world.
Mike Mulligan and David Haugh discuss the top six sports stories of the day in the Pick 6 segment
Jonathan Peterlin and Jake Vulinec analyze why casual Cleveland fans are tuning out the Guardians despite the team leading the AL Central. The discussion highlights the value of watching young prospects like Travis Bazzana develop before shifting into a lighthearted debate over the merits of Busch Light Apple. 01:00 - Guardians Fan Interest 04:25 - Prospect Development Vibe 07:38 - Caller Eric Joins 10:13 - Busch Light Update
Jonathan Peterlin and Jake Vulinec discuss why Cleveland baseball fans seem uninterested in the Guardians despite the team leading the AL Central division. The conversation evaluates the performance of young players like Travis Bazzana and Kahlil Watson while analyzing how a lack of home run power might be driving casual viewers toward other sports. 01:00 - Fans Choose Soccer Over Baseball 02:16 - Evaluating the Youth Movement 05:52 - Stephen Vogt's Post-Game Messaging 10:01 - Travis Bazzana's Star Potential 12:46 - The Lack of Power Hitting
Brayan Rocchio's two-run shot off the first pitch he saw in the ninth was the difference as the Guardians edged the White Sox in the opener of their four-game series. It also pulled Cleveland into a tie with Chicago atop the AL Central. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pat Boyle and PJ Glasser play Hot or Cold, debating whether the AL Central will produce baseball's best pennant race, if Spain would beat France in a potential World Cup semifinal, and whether breakout stars like Nick Kurtz, Pete Crow-Armstrong, and James Wood are making fan voting for the MLB All-Star Game outdated.
Chuck Garfien is joined by MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince to break down whether the White Sox are baseball's biggest surprise, which team is the one to beat in the AL Central, and how the division race is shaping up as the season rolls on. They discuss the boom-or-bust nature of the trade deadline, compare this year's White Sox-Guardians matchup to last season's, examine the White Sox and Guardians' young offenses, talk about the recent rise in hamate bone injuries, including José Ramírez's and wrap up with Chuck and Anthony's predictions for this weekend's series.
In the final hour, Mike Mulligan and Lou Canellis were joined by Chicago Sports Network analyst Steve Stone to break down the White Sox's 6-1 loss to the Orioles on Wednesday and to preview Chicago's crucial upcoming four-game series at Cleveland. The AL Central-leading White Sox hold a one-game advantage over the Guardians as they're set to meet. After that, Mully and Canellis discussed the latest updates in the Bears' stadium saga.
Mike Mulligan and Lou Canellis were joined by Chicago Sports Network analyst Steve Stone to break down the White Sox's 6-1 loss to the Orioles on Wednesday and to preview Chicago's crucial upcoming four-game series at Cleveland. The AL Central-leading White Sox hold a one-game advantage over the Guardians as they're set to meet.
Mike Mulligan and Lou Canellis continued to discuss the top sports stories of the day in the Pick 6 segment.
Mike Petriello joined Baskin and Phelps and talked about the current state of the Guardians, who he thinks will win the AL Central, and explained why it's going to be an odd year for the American League as a whole. He also shared his thoughts on Stephen Vogt's propensity to platoon the lineup and if the Guardians have an issue with Steven Kwan's bat.
Jim Bowden of The Athletic joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about the state of the Guardians, hitters they could pursue at the trade deadline, Cooper Ingle's mistake in left field, and more.
Leila Rahimi, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote were joined by Chris Rose of Jomboy Media to praise the White Sox amid their breakout season, to discuss the AL Central race and to share insight on what teams could be looking to add as the MLB trade deadline looms in just more than a month.
In the final hour, Leila Rahimi, Marshall Harris and Mark Grote were joined by Chris Rose of Jomboy Media to praise the White Sox amid their breakout season, to discuss the AL Central race and to share insight on what teams could be looking to add as the MLB trade deadline looms in just more than a month. After that, Rahimi, Harris and Grote held the segment How Many Bears?
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Al Pawlowski joins Ken and Daryl Ruiter to break down how the Guardians are clinging to first place despite losing their top three hitters to injury, and why the development pipeline keeps producing arms like Parker Messick. He contrasts the Guardians' team-first culture with the Mets, arguing that talent alone doesn't win when a clubhouse lacks chemistry, and credits manager Stephen Vogt's steady, predictable presence for keeping young players grounded. Pawlowski also weighs in on the surprising White Sox contention in the AL Central and explains why the expanded wild card format makes the trade deadline so difficult to navigate. The segment closes with Ken and Daryl bantering about potential nicknames for Cooper Ingle as he prepares to join the big league roster.
Nick and Chris preview the Guardians 10-game homestand. Then, they talk about hockey traditions and the radio business.
Mike Mulligan and David Haugh were joined by Score baseball insider Bruce Levine to discuss the Cubs' sweep of the Mets on Wednesday, which was powered by shortstop Dansby Swanson's monster 11-RBI day. Levine also discussed the White Sox sitting in a first-place tie with the Guardians in the AL Central.
In the second hour, Mike Mulligan and David Haugh discussed the Cubs' back-to-back wins against the Mets and where the White Sox stand in their division race following a key AL Central series. Mully & Haugh were joined by MLB insider Bruce Levine, who provided some insight into where the two Chicago teams stand nearly halfway through the season.
Justin Lada of Locked on Guardians joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about Parker Messick's great season, the issues they've had scoring runs, Cleveland's approach at the trade deadline, and more.
Big Walt coming up at 7:30, JR in studio at 8:40. Blues trade Kyrou so who are the Blusiers gonna hate on now? Good return from Washington. Blues now have four first round picks. Walk & Talks. Gotta question Doug's effort today. The windshield is bigger than the rear view, Chief.Cards announced a presser today. Expectations are a transfer of power in the ownership structure. Is this the end of the Navy Caps On The Road movement? Need to ask at the presser. Maybe we'll send Cal May as a plant. Hockey Hall of Famer and friend of the show, Keith Tkachuk joins the show. Finding out he had made the Hockey Hall of Fame. Incredible run for the Tkachuk family. Matthew and Brady getting to play together in Florida. His role with the Blues and prepping for the draft.Trouble with the phone lines yesterday on ATMA. Talking to the Plowhawk yesterday. Audio of Brady Tkachuk talking about his move from Ottawa to Florida. Mark of Mark's Bra & Mulch is really shining. We may have lost Doug. Blues whipping boys over the years. Shrewsbury Seminary Student on hold. Less sports than this show? Wait, Martin's a GILF?!?! A Ghanian witch doctor cursing Harry Kane. It's only weird if it doesn't work.Chairman Kurt is now on the floor because JR is with us in studio. Doug made JR pee a little bit. JR was thinking about Harrison's Brother Master as the Kyrou news broke. No reaction from Jordan Kyrou yet. The way Kyrou handled the Berube situation.JR hanging out for another segment. What do the Blues do with these four first-round picks? Taking two-part questions from the audience. Does he see the Blues going big game hunting? The Steen/Armstrong situation. Any news on Binnington? Minor league teams in the Boston suburbs.Biz Markie. Finally getting around to last night's Cardinal loss. Another good start for Kyle Leahy. Things went sideways for Svanson. Audio from MLB Network talking about what direction the Cardinals and Chaim Bloom might go at the deadline and the need for swing and miss stuff on the pitching staff. Aroldis Chapman. Brewers just keep on winning. White Sox in first in the AL Central.Doug is this Vapors? Audio of a Miami reporter interviewing some fans from Scotland and maybe she wishes she wouldn't have. Wyndham Clark on Pardon My Take talking about an old tweet about Baker Mayfield and an ex-girlfriend. The hatred for Wyndham Clark. Gallon of Tim's love.Design Aire Heating & Cooling EMOTDStifel Market Moves. The Athletic's Player Poll with MLB players shows that 80% of players believe there will be a work stoppage. Cafe Americano. Matcha tastes like potting soil.People are making topic requests. Johnny Layup wants thoughts on the Kyrou move. Favorite trades in STL history. McGwire, Holliday, Edmonds. Mental and testicular fortitude.Doug Armstrong press conference coming up at the top of the hour. 1 PM press conference for the Redbirds. Mt. Rushmore of St. Louis pro sports owners.And the winner of the Design Aire Heating & Cooling EMOTD is…See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
(00:00-8:00) Chairman Kurt is now on the floor because JR is with us in studio. Doug made JR pee a little bit. JR was thinking about Harrison's Brother Master as the Kyrou news broke. No reaction from Jordan Kyrou yet. The way Kyrou handled the Berube situation.(8:08-26:21) JR hanging out for another segment. What do the Blues do with these four first-round picks? Taking two-part questions from the audience. Does he see the Blues going big game hunting? The Steen/Armstrong situation. Any news on Binnington? Minor league teams in the Boston suburbs.(26:31-44:35) Biz Markie. Finally getting around to last night's Cardinal loss. Another good start for Kyle Leahy. Things went sideways for Svanson. Audio from MLB Network talking about what direction the Cardinals and Chaim Bloom might go at the deadline and the need for swing and miss stuff on the pitching staff. Aroldis Chapman. Brewers just keep on winning. White Sox in first in the AL Central.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In the third hour, Mike Mulligan and David Haugh continued to discuss the Bulls' selections of North Carolina forward Caleb Wilson and Texas wing Dailyn Swain in the first round of the NBA Draft. After that, Chicago Sports Network analyst Ozzie Guillen joined the show to discuss the White Sox taking sole possession of first place in the AL Central with back-to-back wins over the Guardians. He also discussed the White Sox's bullpen concerns.
Mike Mulligan and David Haugh were joined by Chicago Sports Network analyst Ozzie Guillen to discuss the White Sox taking sole possession of first place in the AL Central with back-to-back wins over the Guardians. He also discussed the White Sox's bullpen concerns.
In the third hour, Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes were joined by Guardians radio play-by-play announcer Tom Hamilton to preview the team's three-game series against the White Sox. The Guardians hold a one-game lead in the AL Central over the White Sox entering play Monday. After that, Spiegel and Holmes listened to the White Sox discuss catcher Kyle Teel's return to the lineup following a long absence due to hamstring and knee injuries.
Chris Rose and Trevor Plouffe discuss the hottest stories in baseball Monday through Friday! Thanks to our partners at T-Mobile for sponsoring today's episode. Try Gusto and get three months free when you run your first payroll: gusto.com/TODAY #ad Find out how baseball hits different with T-Mobile at https://www.T-Mobile.com/MLB Register and learn more at https://www.bajablasthomeruns.com/. Subject to complete offer terms & restrictions. Offer activates at 9 AM ET for 24 hours the day after at least one 420 ft home run is hit. Limited to 1 offer per day and 5 redemptions per person all season. Ends 9/26/26 or when 500,000 redemptions have been reached, whichever occurs first. https://shop.jomboymedia.com/products/all-star-party-philadelphia?_pos=1&_sid=4b05bf2fa&_ss=r&variant=45899062345926 Shop your favorite gear from the Jomboy Media store. Click here to shop today! https://shop.jomboymedia.com/ 00:00 INTRO 04:11 The AL Central is all tied up! 15:26 The return of Brandon Woodruff 27:56 Has the Orioles window with this core suddenly closed? 35:49 One guy who's not an All-Star starter that should be? 40:30 Lollipop while playing Major League Baseball? 48:52 OUTRO Follow us on X/Instagram: @ChrisRoseSports Chris Rose on X/Instagram: @ChrisRose Trevor Plouffe on X/Instagram @TrevorPlouffe Follow all of our content on https://jomboymedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris opened their show by breaking down the White Sox's walk-off 6-5 win against the Guardians on Monday evening. After that, they discussed White Sox closer Seranthony Dominguez's continued struggles. Later, they reacted to the Bulls acquiring center Nic Claxton in a three-team trade with the Nets and Wolves.
Mike Mulligan and David Haugh celebrated the White Sox climbing into a first-place tie in the AL Central with a walk-off 6-5 win against the Guardians on Monday evening. They also previewed the NBA Draft, which begins Tuesday evening.
ESPN.com's David Schoenfield joins Buster Olney to discuss Rafael Devers' tantrum after being pinch run, the reality that MLB owners are ready to shut down the sport, the Marlins sweeping the Giants, Kyle Tucker being dropped to seventh in the Dodgers' lineup, Kyle Schwarber's three-homer Saturday, a fun series between the October-bound Brewers and Braves, if the Orioles are still alive and the Tigers hanging around in the Al Central. Then, Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol stops by to talk about Jordan Walker as an NL MVP candidate, JJ Wetherholt's enthusiasm, Dustin May finding his stuff, and which player he hates to game plan against inn the box. Later, Buster answers your questions during Bleacher Tweets. 0:00 Welcome 0:23 Top of the First 3:23 ESPN's David Schoenfield joins 4:37 Rafael Devers' tantrum 10:31 Marlins sweep Giants 11:33 MLB owners' latest draft overhaul 17:22 Kyle Tucker struggling 19:58 Kyle Schwarber hits three homers 22:46 Orioles take series vs. Dodgers 25:08 Tigers hanging around in AL Central 26:45 Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol joins 28:37 Jordan Walker NL MVP candidate? 31:28 JJ Wetherholt's enthusiasm 32:32 Dustin May finds his stuff 34:23 Cardinals contending for postseason 36:47 Toughest player to game plan against 39:53 Bleacher Tweets EMAIL THE SHOW: BleacherTweets@gmail.com REACH OUT ON X: #BLEACHERTWEETS Follow The Baseball Tonight Podcast on… YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHeL6O-A-ASmSMwbSCFvPKEq1Cslo_lrw Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5FG6xCcd338SgZjZ9urHRI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/baseball-tonight-with-buster-olney/id137699414 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
ESPN.com's David Schoenfield joins Buster Olney to discuss Rafael Devers' tantrum after being pinch run, the reality that MLB owners are ready to shut down the sport, the Marlins sweeping the Giants, Kyle Tucker being dropped to seventh in the Dodgers' lineup, Kyle Schwarber's three-homer Saturday, a fun series between the October-bound Brewers and Braves, if the Orioles are still alive and the Tigers hanging around in the Al Central. Then, Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol stops by to talk about Jordan Walker as an NL MVP candidate, JJ Wetherholt's enthusiasm, Dustin May finding his stuff, and which player he hates to game plan against inn the box. Later, Buster answers your questions during Bleacher Tweets. 0:00 Welcome 0:23 Top of the First 3:23 ESPN's David Schoenfield joins 4:37 Rafael Devers' tantrum 10:31 Marlins sweep Giants 11:33 MLB owners' latest draft overhaul 17:22 Kyle Tucker struggling 19:58 Kyle Schwarber hits three homers 22:46 Orioles take series vs. Dodgers 25:08 Tigers hanging around in AL Central 26:45 Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol joins 28:37 Jordan Walker NL MVP candidate? 31:28 JJ Wetherholt's enthusiasm 32:32 Dustin May finds his stuff 34:23 Cardinals contending for postseason 36:47 Toughest player to game plan against 39:53 Bleacher Tweets EMAIL THE SHOW: BleacherTweets@gmail.com REACH OUT ON X: #BLEACHERTWEETS Follow The Baseball Tonight Podcast on… YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHeL6O-A-ASmSMwbSCFvPKEq1Cslo_lrw Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5FG6xCcd338SgZjZ9urHRI Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/baseball-tonight-with-buster-olney/id137699414 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes were joined by Guardians radio play-by-play announcer Tom Hamilton to preview the team's three-game series against the White Sox. The Guardians hold a one-game lead in the AL Central over the White Sox entering play Monday.
In the third hour, Mike Mulligan and David Haugh discussed the future of a pair of Chicago baseball stars in Cubs center fielder Pete Crow-Armstrong and White Sox shortstop Colson Montgomery. After that, Chicago Sports Network analyst Steve Stone joined the show to discuss the White Sox getting swept by the Tigers over the weekend and to preview their big series against the AL Central-leading Guardians.
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