This Indie Life

He burned out only 3 months after starting his indie startup. But one year later found a deeper confidence and became unstoppable. My chat with @heymattia is out

He hustled for years and only started relaxing when he reached $8K MRR. My chat with fellow indie hacker @sobedominik is out

My interview with Marie Ng is out

My interview with Dmytro Krasun is out

I finally overcame my perfectionist tendencies and edited the podcast episode with Lukas Hermann

The first guest of This Indie Life is here!Nico and I talked about the dark side of entrepreneurship: from getting his first gray hair at 26 to being on the verge of breaking up with his girlfriend... but we had some laughs too

In this episode, Dago quits his job and comes back to the indie life. Meanwhile James is nowhere to be found and the podcast is headed towards a new direction.Dagobert linksDagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseDago's NewsletterJames linksJames' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago has a big life event which is going to change the trajectory of his indie life. Meanwhile, I reflect on one of my best weeks in a while being on form after spending some time away relaxing.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:41 James updates12:07 Dago updatesDagobert linksDagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesJames linksJames' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago talks about why he can't do side projects anymore without going al in, but he does have a plan. Meanwhile, I've had a big week with my podcast Indie Bites, speaking to a bootstrapping legend, but having to overcome a metric shit ton of imposter syndrome.About Dagobert (to be updated soon...)Previously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago talks about how the honeymoon period for his job is over and how he's going to address it with side projects. Is logology coming back? Meanwhile, I've been settling back into a new slightly too relaxed routine with my whale client and wonder what I need to do to make some progress with my side projects.About Dagobert (to be updated soon...)Previously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago has started his new job and gives an update on what it's like now he's joined the dark side. Is he happy? Does he regret the decision? All will be revealed in this update conversation. I, meanwhile, travel to Dago's country, avoid him completely and drive to the furthest point away from him to do some work.Dago updates:How he's finding his new jobDoes he regret it?Pros / consJames updates:Driving 1,600 miles to the South of FranceMoving the flat aroundWallet biz updateAbout Dagobert (to be updated soon...)Previously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago's got a big announcement. You might have seen on Twitter, he's closing down his startup Logology and getting a job. I'll read his whole tweet and then we'll discuss why he's making such a big decision.Read Dago's tweet.About Dagobert (to be updated soon...)Previously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

Dago and I have taken a break from the pod while Dago gets to the bottom of his burnout. He's spent some time meditating and figuring out what the next steps are for his indie hacking journey. I have been galavanting around the world and away from my problems, spending time in both New York and Brazil, despite still being in crippling debt.Dago Updates:Figuring out burnoutShould he get a job?James Updates:Trip to New York and BrazilStill struggling with motivation / directionAbout DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago has decided he is a Twitter Rockstar and tries to justify himself, meanwhile, I've made huge progress in paying off my debts and there's even some positive leather news.Dago Updates:Coming to terms with the fact he's a Twitter rockstarThoughts on the Twitter API price increaseJames Updates:New sponsor deal going wellSold more walletsAbout DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago's got to the bottom of his illness and is on the road to recovery, you won't believe what it is! After months of positivity and growth, I might be running into some mental health problems so we try and stop it from getting worse, but there is some good news from me later on.Watch us on YouTube: https://youtu.be/oVPOcy8WcbgAbout DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago is up and about, looking fantastic in his recording setup. We'll be diving deep into a topic that's on everyone's minds - artificial intelligence. Despite being skeptics at heart, Dago and I have both started to embrace AI in various aspects of our lives, and we're excited to share our thoughts and experiences with you.Join us for an engaging and thought-provoking chat about the fascinating world of AI, as we explore the ways in which this groundbreaking technology is changing our lives, for better or for worse. So sit back, relax, and get ready to learn something new in this latest installment of our podcast!Dago updatesOut of bedTesting AI for LogologyShoutouts for listenersJames updates2 episodes of Indie Bites publishedThinking of potential membership upgradesAbout DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago is still sick so records from bed and tries to find out his customer's deepest darkest fears. Meanwhile, I've had a positive week having discussions about selling indie bites, or maybe finding an alternative solution to my short term money problems, but I do have to tackle a little bit of rejection along the way.Dago updatesWent to doctorsBrain fog is clearingDebating how to record next course segmentJames updatesEnjoying momentumWary of burnoutWorking towards a goalAbout DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, Dago is coming to terms with working less and making the most of it. I'm not talking sipping mamosas, I'm talking optimizing his Twitter time. I share more details about my long term indie bites partnership, although there might be a stumbling block in the way in my quest for being debt-free.Watch us on YouTube

In this episode, Dago is still sick so records from bed and tries to find out his customer's deepest darkest fears. Meanwhile, I've had a positive week having discussions about selling indie bites, or maybe finding an alternative solution to my short term money problems, but I do have to tackle a little bit of rejection along the way.Watch us on YouTube

In this episode, Dago is still sick so records from bed and tries to find out his customer's deepest darkest fears. Meanwhile, I've had a positive week having discussions about selling indie bites, or maybe finding an alternative solution to my short term money problems, but I do have to tackle a little bit of rejection along the way.Watch us on YouTube

In this episode, Dago talks about reinventing himself on Twitter, dealing with sickness as a founder and he attempts to find 50 shades of grey to wear. I meanwhile ponder just a single thing, is it worth selling my baby? (aka my podcast).Watch us on YouTube

In this episode Dago gets himself into debt, only works 19 hours in a week, and enjoys using AI. Will we get the old Dago back, who knows? Meanwhile I manage to publish an episode of Indie Bites with my leather man, increase my prices despite my reservations and am about to hit a big milestone for the month.Watch us on YouTube

Dago talks about his impromptu Twitter hiatus and shares some nuggets of wisdom from his course, James is back on his feet after a down period after selling some bi-fold wallets on Twitter and tries to convince Dago why he should exercise.Watch us on YouTube

In this episode Dago ponders how AI will affect his logo business and is thinking of moving to another part of the country to help his indie hacking. I have a battle with the UK postal service who decided not to ship wallets to customers and find out how much profit I made on the £5k of leather wallet sales in December.Watch us on YouTube

This episode, Dago talks about how much he's enjoying doing a podcast and his plans for maintaining momentum for his course. I'm also thinking about momentum in the new year after crossing £5k this month in leather wallet sales in the run up to Christmas. Dago's updates:product update: so happy to do this podreflecting on the journey: audience first approach is 10x more geniusmeme: quit software job to build a startup (december 5th) → how lucky we are as founders, can go back to a job anytimepersonal: winter / tired AF now that make moneyJames' updates:The sales keep comingCraft fair and second biggest day of ordersCost breakdown per walletMy new machine arrived!Updated my twitter profile - scaryYouTube, TikTok and IG need to happen ASAP.First video recording for client doneEngland vs FranceSponsorNo sponsor this episode, but if you're keen to get your product in front of hundreds of indie founders and developers, head to indielife.fm/sponsor.About DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterDago's Twitter CourseLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

This episode, we reflect on our black friday sales and how Dago made a full-year worth of sales i a weekend, I meanwhile have a found a new lease of life thanks to my the leather wallet business but question the potential for it becoming something I spend more time on, or if it's just a distraction.Dago:reflecting on the journey: More money 1 month vs 1 year, but the real challenge is to do the same with a productproduct update: Recording bonus, difficult to switch context. (1 year marketing / 1 year building)meme: thanks giving, guilty for late, update peoplepersonal: first bad ratingJames:BF/CM sales updateLots of excitement for wallets, future plans etcLost a client for PodPanda. Big hit. Reality of bills needing to be paid after the excitement of the past few weeks.First client recording with video tomorrowSponsor - StatamicStatamic is a content management system built on Laravel that is designed to make building, managing, and scaling content-driven websites and applications painless and (hopefully) fun.Statamic is not your typical CMS. Out of the box it runs on flat files, which means there's no database required at all. Content, users, configs, you name – everything is stored in Markdown, YAML, or PHP config files, but can still be managed in the control panel like other platforms.But it's not JUST a flat file system. Its entire data layer is driver based, and you can switch from dynamic flat file mode to static site generator to MySQL to whatever data platform tickles your fancy and makes you happy.Start simple. Scale later. Be happy. "INDIE" for 10% off Statamic Pro. Head to https://statamic.com/?ref=indielife.About DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

James has had a massive week making £1,600 in a day selling leather wallets, Dago has success with black friday sales and we finally get to the bottom of how you pronounce niche.Get Dago's course here

This episode, Dago talks about how he feels one week on from his course launch and some of the new ideas he has for keeping the momentum. I on the other hand was not having a good day when we recorded this, I was feeling a little down in the dumps and wasn't even sure if we should record.But we want to be honest and truthful with this show, to give a real idea of what it's like to be an indie founder, so decided to record and publish never the less. So you hear me confused talking about doubt, imposter syndrome and what to do when you're not feeling at your best. I'm grateful to Dago here for being such a supportive co-host and friend. Get Dago's course here

This episode Dago talks about how he made $16,000 launching his course and why he's not feeling amazing about it, I go viral on Twitter and then make a promise I might not be able to keep.Get Dago's course here

This episode Dago talks about why he had to delay the launch of his course, we both discuss some of the disagreements we've had in the past few weeks and I think about how I can grow Indie Bites.Dago's Twitter course is launched!

This episode Dago is in full-prep mode for his Twitter course launch and talks about how the early access has helped them. Both of us are no stranger to burnout, so we discuss both our approaches to avoiding it, including revealing how many hours we both work each week. I think you'll be surprised by our answers here.

This episode is a little meta, because Dago and I discuss the launch of the show and if we should accept sponsors. So I said we'd be open and honest and sometimes we may even disagree, but I thought it might take longer than the second episode. We both have kinda different approaches to monetizing the show so we hash out our thoughts in this episode We do then go into our updates, where I talk about some exciting new client developments and Dago has a rollercoaster of a beta-launch for his course.Follow the pod on TwitterWhat we covered in this episode:The podcast launchShould we take sponsors?Why Dago isn't too keen on sponsorsWhy James believes in having sponsorshipJames updatesHe's going to New YorkThinking of video for clientsGetting more income stabilityFounder dinner in personDago's updatesA hit to his confidence with the coursePre-sales updateValidation when it's not thereWill Dago be annoyed if the launch goes well?About DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing

In this episode, both Dago and I introduce ourselves, from there we head into our usual updates as Dago's talks about his new Twitter course, why his most viral meme of all time is to keep him in check and we both had some deep realisations about our physical health might be more closely related to our startups than we think.Follow the pod on TwitterTalking points:Intro to the foundersJames construction podcasting mishapDagobert updatesprogress on twitter course and impostor syndromefeeling like i'm in danger building my startup and not sleeping / random panic attacksmeme about shitting on gumroadlong COVID killing my energy levelsJames updatesGetting up earlyChanging the Indie Feast membershipRaising Indie Bites sponsor price / converting to $Stagnating clients / positioningAbout DagobertPreviously a money-chasing software engineer, but now building his own startup with his wife, Logology (that's the name of the startup, not his wife). It took them more than two years just to build a product and had to use most of our savings just to survive. They launched it and got almost no sales, pushing him to learn marketing. Last year, after some experiments, he found a marketing channel that worked by using Twitter. Now he has 45k followers and the business is finally going. As of the start of this pod, his business is on $3k p/m, with a goal to reach $5k p/m to avoid dwindling savings and to pay themselves a salary.Dagobert's TwitterLogology - high quality logos and brandsMemelogy - the best startup memesAbout JamesJames left his cushty full-time job marketing job in April 2021. Since then, he's been hacking together income from his other podcast, Indie Bites, and podcast editing service, Pod Panda. The podcast does around $1k p/m in sponsor revenue and Pod Panda makes $2k p/m. But with a $4-5k burn every month, he's digging a very deep hole. James' goal is to get to around $10k per month across his products, get myself out of that hole and have fun while doing it. James' TwitterIndie Bites - indie founder chats2 Hour Podcast - podcasting courseWhitstable Craft Co - handmade leather walletsPodPanda - podcast editing