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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 4. After interviewing Mark Henkel in the previous month, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources. Mark Henkel and the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults awere blind-sided: the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected. This episode is the fourth part of the discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections. In this episode, Mark Henkel addressed the problem of the article elevating two topical non-authorities, all of which poses a threat to the movement of unrelated consenting adult polygamy (UCAP). One of the ones so elevated had even been quoted using Mark Henkel's own unique style of terminology. The writer replied that that shows that the gentleman "reads your stuff" and TruthBearer.org. The problem, Mark Henkel explained, is "that he's being elevated when he's irrelevant." Bringing this Part4 of the podcast to a close, Mark Henkel concluded, "I have no problem with him being quiet. But I have a problem when he is being elevated - because of the threat he poses to our movement, as the anti-polygamists use him as a poster boy to say that 'force polgamy' is (supposedly) what we're about." Mark Henkel has always made it emphatically clear that that is not what the movement has ever been about. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel gave his second of 2 interviews with Alley Einstein for "Big Pictures & Strong Features," on February 15, 2008. Writing a story about UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, the writer's purpose for this second interview sought to make arrangements for conducting a conference call interview with a polygamous family and for making compensation to the TruthBearer.org organization for the story. The writer was an established independent writer for British magazines, including Fabulous, More, and Take a Break. (NOTE: “UIC” was also written on the physical audiocassette tape of the original copy of this interview. She was also known as "Alison Rose," being a TV journalist in Australia.) Listeners may hear that first interview in the previous podcast episode. Even so, the airing of this second interview becomes the 200th episode posted of the National Polygamy Advocate ™ PODCAST. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Mary Fischer for the New York Times, on March 14, 2002. This was the first of two calls, with the larger interview conducted the following day. The writer had already begun writing an article about non-Mormon based polygamy. She had learned of Mark Henkel as an established authority on the topic through the author of a new book at the time (“A Three Ring Marriage”) whose website for the book was ordered and hosted by the webhosting services of the TruthBearer.org organization, founded by Mark Henkel. Listeners may hear the second (and fuller) interview with this writer in the next episode of this podcast. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by producer Kerry O'Connor for "On the Record w/ Greta Van Susteren" on FOX News television network, on May 18, 2006. This was the first of nine (1of9) discussions with this producer over the following months in 2006. As Warren Jeffs was still "on the lam," and the first season of HBO's “Big Love” was still be broadcast, the producer for this show on FOX wanted to present "the other side of polygamy." Mark Henkel provided some quick education. He helped the producer understand that not all polygamy occurs “in the Mormonland bubble” of Utah/Arizona. He adamantly declared that normal families in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, equally oppose the crimes for which Warren Jeffs was being sought and accused (and later convicted). And Henkel told a story of one family in the TruthBearer.org organization that had been sued by a violent wife-beating ex-husband to get back child custody only because anti-polygamy laws were “on the books,” to allow him to do so - costing the family thousands of dollars to defend against that which otherwise would have been easily dismissed as a frivolous lawsuit. "So the existence of the legal law can be used to abuse with the civil law," explained Henkel. The producer exclaimed, “Wow!” and she expressed how she could see how that was possible by such laws being "on the books." Mark Henkel and the producer developed a positive rapport. She even laughed positively when Mark Henkel gave the soundbite of “marriage-phobic baby daddy males” in a contemporary society, while the hypocrisy remains of criminalizing caring husbands who deliberately want marriage responsibilities with UCAP polygamy. Thus began several interviews in trying to find ways for the producer to put Mark Henkel on their show. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed for National Geographic Television, by Associate Producer Dana Kemp, on August 24, 2003, preparing to pitch for a segment on a developing episode for a second season of one of their programs. Six weeks before this interview, the U.S. Supreme Court had decided the Lawrence v. Texas decision of June 26, 2003. This interview was a follow-up to the first interview that been conducted two weeks previously on July 24, 2003. (That first interview used to be available for sale before it was later made freely available on Episode 43 of this podcast. With this new episode, this second interview is released for the very first time.) This 64-minute interview centered around how the producer could best pitch the segment to the higher-ups at National Geographic Television channel. She asked excellent questions, completely understood the importance of the standard of Love-not-Force, and was definitely sympathetic to the issues of persecution for Christian Polygamy and UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy). She even recognized how jealousy is a cultural, social indoctrination of expectation. Mark Henkel discussed how some of the families with the TruthBearer.org organization (he founded) could be willing to participate under some serious privacy protections. Listeners will find this positively conducted interview to be quite educational. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel appeared on Pat Robertson's show, "The 700 Club," on the Christian Broadcasting Network, CBN, on August 16, 2005. For history archiving purposes, Mark Henkel's taped appearance on this specific segment helped "made history." Namely, for the first time in history, a renowned Christian organization (The 700 Club), as led by a worldwide-known Christian leader (Pat Robertson), had publicly acknowledged "Christian Polygamy" as "evangelical Christians" on TV and even said the exact words of "Christian Polygamy" and "Christian polygamists." The two words "Christian" and "Polygamy" were no longer a supposed "contradiction in terms." History had been made indeed. For this segment, Mark Henkel had been previously "interviewed on tape" by a professional woman named Kim Bonney. To hear her lengthy interview with Mark Henkel, listeners will want to hear Episode 99 of this podcast, posted February 5, 2020. The final segment that aired on August 16, 2006 (despite a number of times being "bumped" from previously scheduled dates to air) was instead reported by David Brody. The scope of this segment unfortunately intended to scare its major Christian audience with the notion that the then-growing efforts to legalize same sex marriage would supposedly result in legalized group marriage, polyamory, and polygamy too. The premise - and especially the early part of the segment - initially focused more on salacious notions pertaining to group marriage and polyamory in order to indeed "scare" the network's Christian audience. The report included statements from many then-big names such as Stanley Kurtz ("conservative" lecturer and pundit), Maggie Gallagher (president of the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy), and David Frum (albeit famous among conservatives as a "faux conservative") - all to speak against such supposed "changes to marriage." Contrary to their opinions, the report also included statements from Elizabeth Emens (former University of Chicago Law School Professor), an unnamed then-President of the American Civil Liberties Union (claiming that the ACLU would "defend polygamy" – which never really happened as the ACLU ultimately remained silent regarding polygamy in the following decade to come), Robin Trask (editor for the polyamory magazine, Loving More), and of course, the one and only advocate for actual polygamy on the segment, Mark Henkel (Founder of the TruthBearer.org Organization for Christian Polygamy). As the concluding voice to make the final argument for polygamy, Mark Henkel was able to make a number of quick yet important soundbites in the segment, including his "circular argument of law and sin" soundbite. Most importantly, the reporter, in the end, genuinely treated the concept of Christian Polygamy itself separately yet surprisingly fairly. The reporter kindly and accurately introduced Mark Henkel with the following QUOTE that made history: "Polygamy has a range of defenders including some evangelical Christians. Mark Henkel is the founder of the Christian Polygamy organization, TruthBearer. Christian polygamists believe husbands are called to love their wives as Christ loves the churches." That introduction is repeated and looped a couple of times at the end of this podcast to demonstrate its profound history-making significance. Yes, with this segment, history had been made on August 16, 2005. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel discussed the breach of agreement by and with Producer Aarne Heikkila and the TODAY Show on NBC-TV, on March 22, 2006, three days after the show aired a report by Lester Holt, on March 19, 2006. Prior to that broadcast, Mark Henkel and the producer had conducted extensive negotiation together as conditions for producing the segment. (Three of those negotiation discussions have been previously posted to this podcast.) The polygamous family from the TruthBearer.org organization (which Henkel founded) had only agreed to be interviewed for the show with specific conditions, one of which being that the report would not be “all about” them, but centered around Mark Henkel, his organization, and the overall movement for UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Mark Henkel had made these conditions mandatory due to the actions of another show, “Dateline,” on NBC-TV, that had previously mispresented polygamy horribly. The resulting TODAY Show segment that aired on March 19, 2006, still made the report solely about the family. That action was a direct and blatant breach of the agreement. Only because it as true that the aired-segment did at least treat the family positively, Mark Henkel still willingly indicated that the way to begin to heal that breach and to begin to restore trust with NBC-TV would be for them to work together and to thereby do a second report as originally agreed. The producer said that he needed a couple days to see what other options they could do. Nothing else was ever again produced or aired. After allowing 15 years to pass since this breach occurred, and because NBC-TV has made no correction, healing, or even effort over this period of 15 years, this discussion is now being made public for the archives of history (as directly authorized to Mark Henkel by the agreement for him to record and air any of such discussions). It also reveals why most of (what Mark Henkel calls) "circus act requests" made by other corporate media would later be denied, in terms of protecting families from this happening again. This breach, therefore, established the precedent that any media claiming to be “seeking families” would have to first abide and follow Mark Henkel's terms and conditions. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on the TODAY Show on NBC-TV, for a report by Lester Holt, on March 19, 2006. As per the many discussions beforehand, this report was supposed to be about Mark Henkel, his TruthBearer.org organization, and the national polygamy rights movement. In the end, NBC instead made the report "all about" a polygamous family. While that family was from Mark Henkel's organization, there was no mention in the report of any such connection. Mark Henkel's appearance lasts no longer than 12 seconds. Lester Holt states, "As many as 100,000 Americans are believed to be living in plural marriages. But now with the buzz over HBO's hit series, 'Big Love,' and a growing political acceptance of same sex unions, polygamy activists are emerging, some calling it 'the next civil rights battle,' and the battle lines are being drawn." It then cuts to tape, listing "Mark Henkel, Founder, TruthBearer.org." Mark Henkel explains, "We're saying, get government out of the business of defining marriage altogether. And basically, let consenting adults choose their own contractual arrangements." Overall, the report presents itself kindly toward the family itself (and toward UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, in general), even though the family did not agree to be the main focus/subject. The segment also reports that the family was Christian, not connected to anything with Mormonism. After the segment ends, Lester Holt speaks (then-live) with Campbell Brown. She says to him, "And they seem like normal, like the person you'd run into in the grocery store." Lester Holt replies, "Very nice people, and you would never raise an eyebrow if you met them anywhere." She closes, saying, "All right. Much to think about." Notwithstanding that the segment was certainly kind, the breach of the agreement paved the way for tougher demands with all other media over the years afterward. This result became a strong lesson-learned. Breach notwithstanding, the report was positively presented; and it does indeed leave the viewer/listener with much to think about indeed. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel's 3of3 negotiating with producer Aarne Heikkila for the TODAY Show on NBC-TV, on March 14, 2006, to set terms for a taped interview (the next day). This conversation was the third of three steps to the negotiation for the terms and conditions of agreement for a taped interview with Mark Henkel and for another interview with one of the polygamous families from the TruthBearer.org organization that he founded. The eventual segment was broadcast on March 19, 2006. Mark Henkel had been requiring that it be written into the Agreement that the crew and producer (et al) would neither follow nor record anything else after the formal interviews. In the beginning of this third negotiation, the producer opened the negotiation by trying to get out of having to formally write that requirement. Mark Henkel used his negotiation skills to both initially and conditionally concede on that issue. Later, however, the producer brought up a separate issue of how media companies can be subpoenaed and gave the kind warning that both Mark Henkel and the polygamous family would have to be careful of what they say. This was a point that the producer said that his attorneys wanted to be known in advance by all concerned. Mark Henkel deftly utilized that point to get the producer in the negotiation to instead be the one to concede and to indeed formally add Mark Henkel’s aforementioned requirement to be written into the Agreement. This third and final step of three ended positively, just as the previous two steps had occurred in the preceding week. This essential discussion both educates and demonstrates the absolute necessity of holding media accountable when they want to "do stories" that can put people at risk. It also reveals the example that Mark Henkel set in both possessing and bringing some essential negotiation skills to this process. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel's 2of3 negotiating with producer Aarne Heikkila for the TODAY Show on on NBC-TV, on March 10, 2006, to set terms for a taped interview. This conversation was the second of three steps to the negotiation for the terms and conditions of agreement for a taped interview with Mark Henkel and for another interview with one of the polygamous families from the TruthBearer.org organization that he founded. The eventual segment was broadcast on March 19, 2006. Because NBC had aired another show called "Dateline" that had made false associations about UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, two years previously, Mark Henkel was clear that he was not going to tolerate any misrepresentation of the movement again. The purpose of the piece was to be about the movement, Mark Henkel, and the TruthBearer.org organization -not exclusively about the family from his organization. Mark Henkel explained, "This will be NBC's shot to repair the damage of Dateline two years ago, and we will report it, one way or another, how we are treated." The producer re-affirmed six different times, saying, "You are going to be in the piece, Mark." Mark Henkel allowed that such terms not have to be written (so that they could move forward without lawyer-delays), saying, "I am going to take you at your word." This second step of three ended positively, as well as the first step had occurred the day before. This essential discussion both educates and demonstrates the absolute necessity of holding media accountable when they want to "do stories" that can put people at risk. It also reveals that Mark Henkel retained full authority to publish all aspects of this process, and it demonstates that the producer acknowledged that fact. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel's 1of3 negotiating with producer Aarne Heikkila for the TODAY Show on on NBC-TV, on March 9, 2006, to set terms for a taped interview. This conversation was the first of three steps to the negotiation for the terms and conditions of agreement for a taped interview with Mark Henkel and for another interview with one of the polygamous families from the TruthBearer.org organization that he founded. The eventual segment was broadcast on March 19, 2006. Because NBC had aired another show called "Dateline" that had made false associations about UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, two years previously, Mark Henkel was clear that he was not going to tolerate any misrepresentation of the movement again. When Mark Henkel was specifically limiting specific things for the terms and conditions, the producer countered them as supposedly not being necessary, saying, "You're free to say stuff like that when we interview you." Refusing to be misled by that argument, Mark Henkel insightfully and immediately replied, "Yeah, I'm free to say it; but whether you air it is another matter." The producer understood. The first step of three ended positively. This important discussion both educates and demonstrates the absolute necessity of holding media accountable when they want to "do stories" that can put people at risk. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was on "John Stossel Special Report" for "20/20" on ABC News, on July 18, 2008, during prime time television hours. The hour-long special looked into how big government over-reaches into what consenting adults do. This 7-minute segment, focusing on polygamy, made its fourfold-purpose clear. One, show that polygamy is not exclusively based on Mormon Polygamy (and that that idea is a myth). Two, show other forms of polygamy in a modern context. Three, show that UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy) is about unrelated consenting adults making private choices of UCAP for themselves that work for them. Four, show that UCAP polygamy has nothing to do with criminals and cults that also supposedly "involve polygamy" as otherwise sensationalized and misreported by manufactured news corporations. Mark Henkel was identified as the "National Polygamy Advocate." The segment includes interviews with a Christian polygamous husband and two wives from the TruthBearer.org Organization that Mark Henkel founded. The episode also includes a separate polygamous family, a man with two of his four wives from the African Hebrew Israelites. As well, the episode presents an academic from the University of Georgia, Professor Patricia Dixon, explaining the positivity of the women's choice element for those who choose it. Peter Sprigg declared the Family Research Council's (FRC) anti-polygamy bias. Mark Henkel follows-up to that bias, making a powerful refutation to the assertion that polygamy is sup'osedly immoral: "If they're saying that that's immoral, they're calling the greatest heroes in the Bible they believe in — they're calling them immoral. They're saying that Abraham, with his three wives, was immoral. Jacob had four wives. David had seven known named wives before Bathsheba." This interview provides many excellent soundbites, including Mark Henkel's renowned "That's insane!" reference to Hugh Hefner's then-current popular reality TV show of "3 live-in girlfriends" that would otherwise make him a "criminal" if he actually married them. This episode is a must-hear presentation, and it is provided for the purpose of archiving for history. It is also presented in honor, legacy, and memory of both the husband and of one of his wives from the TruthBearer.org Organization who had both passed away only a few months apart in 2020. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was pre-interviewed by Kristina Kendall, producer for John Stossel, on "20/20" on ABC News TV, on November 21, 2007. This was the first of 2 pre-interviews, in preparation for a subsequent taped-interview with John Stossel himself at the ABC studios in New York City, New York, for a “John Stossel Special” that would air on July 18, 2008. The producer wanted to do a story about non-Mormon polygamy. She established right away that she knew and that she affirmed that she would first have to build a relationship of trust. Mark Henkel told her how the Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamists (UPCAPs) had actually “been waiting to hear from John Stossel” for this kind of segment. Mark Henkel gave the sound-bite comparing “CNN on the left and FOX on the right” manufacturing news product as if real news to “saying that MacDonald’s and Burger King sell health food.” Having been so let down by ABC’s past airing of misrepresentative manufactured news stories about polygamy over the previous years, Mark Henkel explained how differently that the TruthBearer.org organization perceived John Stossel’s actually-honest reporting. Mark Henkel shared that he and his organization chucklingly perceived John Stossel as a “diamond in a pile of pooh” - which generated laughter in the producer each time he said it. Earlier that year (2007), John Stossel had authored a new book, "Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel - Why Everything You Know is Wrong." Mark Henkel said he had more than 10 such "myths, lies, and downright stupidity" about polygamy that he would be happy to share in an episode with John Stossel. This first pre-interview includes so many important sound-bites that the producer even had to stop to write some of them down. She mentioned how positively struck she was by the “love-not-force” standard being so respectful of women, that wives must equally consent. She particular liked Mark Henkel’s use of the “freedom of assembly” argument, affirming that John Stossel could agree with that frame of argument himself. So committed to doing this story, the producer at one point even proclaimed her response to the arguments, “I really think I completely agree.” This was the very first contact with producer Kristina Kendall; and, she definitely lived up to her promise (in this interview and over the subsequent weeks andmonths) to build a positive relationship of trust. Forthcoming episodes of this podcast will include the subsequent pre-interview, the taped interview with John Stossel himself, and more. All of these are must-hear interviews. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Peri Muldofsky, former Development Producer for ABC News Productions, but still freelancing for them on June 10, 2006. In this (the third of three) interviews, the producer said that she was no longer full time employed by ABC News, that she worked for the History Channel instead, and that she was still able to write articles for major media such New York Sunday Times magazine, Glamour, and other print media. She still very much wanted to so something with Mark Henkel and this story. The interview referenced Mark Henkel's several experiences/observations with various personalities in the media, including Lester Holt of NBC-TV, Stanley Kurtz of The Weekly Standard, Albert Mohler of CrossTalk.com (who made the outrageous claim that supposedly "legalization of polygamy means the destruction of marriage"), and Karole Honas of KIFI-TV (who had been urprised by the story from a feminist angle). When Mark Henkel lamented the disappointing ordeal of when he and one of the polygamous families from the TruthBearer.org organization were on NBC's "The TODAY Show" (even though it was not a negative report), she again offered some more excellent insights and education about how TV media puts together their spots. Mark Henkel explained how the two wives in one of the organization's polygamous families had traded off working and caring for children with each other in both getting their college education. He said, "Talk about the ultimate feminist success story!" The freelance producer/writer exclaimed, "Right! To me, one of the banner headlines would be like, 'Is Polygamy Better for Women?" The question to me is not even, 'Is Polygamy Bad for Women?' The question is, 'Is Polygamy BETTER for Women?'" Happily embracing the fascinating and feminist angle of this non-Mormon-polygamy, the freelance producer/writer emphatically and politely wanted and invited further exploring into how she and Mark Henkel might put together a story with a wife of a polygamous family that she could write for one of the top major print media. Affirming that intent, she exclaimed, "I think it's a really good story." http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Peri Muldofsky, Development Producer for ABC News Productions, on December 13, 2005. In this comprehensive 90-minute interview, the producer sought information for development of a story about the TruthBearer.org organization and the new modern movement of Christian Polygamy (and beyond to UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy). She had found it fascinating, as she had never heard about it before she learned of and surfed through the TruthBearer.org website. For her story development, she was initially hoping for families to go "on-air." Mark Henkel identified that idea as a “circus act request,” explaining, "The circus act does not work for us. It just hasn't (worked)." Remaining fully positive, the producer kindly sought to build a professional relationship (developing trust for the future), as she generously offered additional ways that this pro-woman, pro-family, non-Mormon form of polygamy could be given better media attention. She even offered to think more about it to see what else she could later recommend in a few weeks afterward. The producer even exclaimed, "Every single woman in America, every woman in her 30s who's looking for a man to make a commitment, can relate to this." With many of Henkel's important sound-bites and the producer's unsolicited education on how to additionally work the media, this episode is a must-hear interview. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel gave a statement to Jennifer Dobner for the Associated Press (the AP newswire), on August 31, 2006. Two days earlier, the fugitive on the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted List, the cult leader of FLDS, Fundamentalist LDS, Warren Jeffs, had been caught and arrested. As both the FBI listing and the reports from most of the news organizations associated that cult criminal with polygamy, the TruthBearer.org organization (founded by Henkel) issued a press release, distributed that same day (August 29, 2006) to the media through Pro-Polygamy.com, explaining, "Pro-Polygamists Glad that Fugitive Warren Jeffs was Caught." Mark Henkel kept phonecalling the AP over those next two days to reach Jennifer Dobner. He made sure that she would get the statement. Jennifer Dobner confirmed that she should be able to use it in order to report the differentiation that Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, UCAP, is not the same as the FLDS or (eventually convicted) criminal Warren Jeffs - and especially that normal pro-polygamists were even glad that the criminal was finally caught. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Harriet Pleming for the BBC, in London, England, on March 24, 2003. Having previously given an interview a few months beforehand with a different BBC journalist, Mark Henkel was glad to help the BBC in their continuing research into the new movement of Christian Polygamy and the TruthBearer.org organization. Mark Henkel explained the Reformation, "Sola Scriptura," how and why individual Bible-studying Christians come to discover and understand that the Bible never banned polygamy, and how the organization is "Continuing the Reformation." Explaining how the organization does this for others and overall society, he said, "It is really a sociological process of paradigm shifting." Mark Henkel even noted how some renowned Christian media elite have publicly paradigm-shifted, by their saying, "You won't find the Bible calling polygamy a sin, but we don't recommend it." Mark Henkel also clarifed that normal polygamists around the country have nothing to do with Tom Green or with Brian David Mitchell who kidnapped teenager Elizabeth Smart. To aid the BBC's research, Mark Henkel explained how Christians (from all forms and denominations - from Law-based to Grace-based beliefs), come to find, get support by, and join the TruthBearer.org organization as a para-church support organization, as well as how the overall movement seeks after de-criminalization, not legalization, of polygamy for unrelated consenting adults. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Kim Bonney, for The 700 Club, on CBN, the Christian Broadcasting Network, in Washington DC, on June 28, 2005, for a report that was broadcast on August 16, 2005, titled, "Polygamy: The Next 'Right' to be Legalized?" The report also aired on other networks on which The 700 Club was being broadcast, including TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network) and the cable network, Family Channel. The show had flown Mark Henkel in from Maine to do this entire interview on video at their Washingon, DC studios. This interview was the source that made history. In the August 16, 2005, airing of the segment, the show reported, "Polygamy has a range of defenders, including evangelical Christians. Mark Henkel is founder of the Christian polygamy organization, TruthBearer.org. He says Christian polygamists believe husbands are called to love their wives, as Christ loved the churches, according to Scripture.." That was the first time that the two words "Christian" and "polygamy" were no longer misperceived as a "contradiction in terms" and the first time that the movement itself was recognized as indeed being actual Christians, including evangelical Christians. The aired report included a number of other key quotes from this historic interview, as well. The woman reporter who conducted the interview was completely professional, polite, pleasant, and positive throughout the interview. For other listeners who do not follow or believe in the Christian faith, this interview also provides powerful lessons on what and how to use the commonplace terms & rhetoric that will (and do!) persuade Christians to support the liberty and de-criminalization of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. For researchers, this is the interview that caused history to be made! http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Seth Hartkness for the Portland Press Herald, on November 29, 2006, as the first of 2 interviews with him for an article that would be published in the December 15, 2006, edition of this local Portland, Maine, newspaper, titled, "In Maine, supporter argues for polygamy." The reporter had read an Associated Press (AP) article that his newspaper had published days earlier on November 24, 2006, titled, "Polygamists Say Jeffs case Paints Distorted Picture." This hour-long first inteview for the Portland Press Herald provided numerous argumentations, explaining both Christian Polygamy and UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Regarding Henkel's renowned soundbite that "Polygamy is the Next Civil Rights Battle," Henkel clarified, "With my soundbite, oftentimes, people then suggest that we are 'riding the coattails of so-called same sex marriage.' And actually, anytime anybody ever says that, there are four letters that should be plastered on their forehead: L-I-A-R, because we are NOT riding on the coattails of the homosexuals." Henkel explained how the Polygamy Rights Win-Win Solution actually brings an end to the whole marriage debate. He also provided story-examples of unidentified members of the TruthBearer.org organization, showing how some families have come together and thrive, and also showing how even civil law has been used to abuse polygamists in court only because the anti-polygamy laws are on the books. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Dana Littlefield, for the San Diego Union-Tribune, on December 08, 2006. This interview was in preparation for an article she was writing that would be published on January 15, 2007. As she had reported over the previous year about the trial of a horrific murderer named Sean Goff who had self-claimed to be a Christian in polygamy, but who was not Mormon, she sought to learn more about the issues and differences. She was educated on the history of the modern Christian Polygamy movement, how the "Standard of Christian Polygamy is "Love-Not-Force," the TruthBearer.org organization, and how that criminal self-proved to never be a valid part of the actual movement (as anyone can claim to "be Christian" even when they are not). http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by National Reporter, Cheryl Wetzstein, for The Washington Times, on November 22, 2005, as the second of 2 interviews with him for an article that would be published on the front page of the Sunday edition, December 11, 2005, of this known politically conservative newspaper. As before in his first interview with her, Mark Henkel intentionally used those same commonplaces & rhetorical arguments to persuade that target audience. In this second interview, this reporter was doing the followups for clarification from the first interview as well as from 2 additional interviews they conducted together with 2 separate families from the TruthBearer.org Organization (with Mark Henkel mediating). While those 2 family-interviews will remain private, the first interview with Mark Henkel was posted in last week's episode of this podcast. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by National Reporter, Cheryl Wetzstein, for The Washington Times, on October 11, 2005, as the first of 2 interviews with him for an article that would be published on the front page of the Sunday edition, December 11, 2005, of this known politically conservative newspaper. Mark Henkel intentionally used those commonplaces & rhetorical arguments to persuade that target audience. In this first interview, this reporter was doing the initial research and making preparations on how to conduct 2 additional interviews to be later conducted with 2 separate families from the TruthBearer.org Organization with Mark Henkel mediating. After those 2 subsequent family-interviews, this reporter would also do one more interview with Mark Henkel alone again. While those 2 family-interviews will remain private, the final (and second) interview with Mark Henkel will be posted in next week's episode of this podcast. http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by reporter Kate Silver on November 14, 2001, for a magazine article published in the November 21, 2001, issue, titled, "Jesus loves polygamy, this I know (Christians use Internet as polygamy too)." This interview asked and provided numerous questions and comprehensive answers explaining Mark Henkel's ethos as a non-Mormon Christian, the TruthBearer.org organization, the Protestant "Sola Scriptura" history, presuppositions, & paradigm, the rhetoric argumentions of the newly growing modern movement of Christian Polygamy (the movement which made the later, larger movement possible for overall UCAP Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy), details of how Mormon Polygamy doctrines are specifially different from the Christian Polygamy paradigm, and the "House of Cards" strategy to overcome anti-polygamy thinking. (History Note: this interview took place 2 months after 9/11 - yes, in that year 2001.) http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed on The Jiggy Jaguar Show, hosted by James Lowe (aka Jiggy Jaguar), in Hutchinson Kansas, on January 27, 2010, to discuss UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. The typically humorous and irreverant host was genuinely respectful and positive. He asked questions that permitted rather lengthy comprehensive answers, including the different forms of polygamy, the beginnings of the TruthBearer.org Organization in the '90s, how that catapulted the larger movement for all forms of consenting adult polygamy, how the Bible never created the "one man one woman" (OMOW) doctrine, the history of Christianity in general and "The Reformation," and how the "house of cards" strategy will persuade Conservatives, Christians, and then other anti-polyamous constituencies to embrace a win-win solution to end marriage control. This was another host who, at one point in the interview, declares, "Wow!" http://www.NationalPolygamyAdvocate.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nationalpolygamyadvocate/support