Podcast appearances and mentions of Warren Jeffs

In this episode of Serial Streamers Jami walks listeners through the 2026 Netflix documentary series, Trust Me: The False Profit. From 2019 to 2022, Samuel Bateman led a breakaway polygamist FLDS sect in the aftermath of Warren Jeff's imprisonment. The sect of loyal Warren Jeffs followers were struggling and vulnerable when Bateman showed up in their Short Creek community, near the border of Arizona and Utah. Bateman declared himself the successor of Warren Jeffs and used religious authority to control his followers and sexually abuse minors. In 2016, Christine Marie, a survivor of abuse by a religious cult leader, ingratiated herself to the Short Creek FLDS community. She, along with her partner, Tolga Katas, began gathering evidence that would ultimately lead to Bateman's arrest, conviction and imprisonment.   Follow Jami Rice on IG, TikTok and YouTube @jamionair. Watch Serial Streamers on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jamionair and subscribe so you don't miss out on the latest documentary recaps. Check out Jami's other podcasts: Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dirty-money-moves-women-in-white-collar-crime/id1619521092 Bravo's Most Wanted:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bravos-most-wanted-with-jami-rice-and-katie-ginella/id1896791981 Want to advertise on this podcast? We've partnered with Cloud10 Media to handle our advertising requests. If you're interested in advertising on MURDERISH, send an email to Sahiba Krieger sahiba@cloud10.fm with a copy to jami@murderish.com.  Visit Murderish.com for more info about the show and Creator/Host, Jami Rice. Remember …cults are stupid, Ted Bundy is ugly, scammers suck at life, and binge-watching true crime documentaries IS self care! Stay safe out there! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 2 of Devotion: Obedience or Betrayal, we dive into one of the most difficult questions any faith community can face: Can you separate a religious leader's contributions from their crimes?As former members of high-demand religious communities, we discuss the complicated legacy of leaders whose teachings helped shape entire generations, even after serious wrongdoing comes to light. We compare the conviction of Hopeful Christian to our experiences with Warren Jeffs and explore why different communities respond so differently when their leaders are sent to prison.We also talk about the challenge many religious groups face when trying to distinguish themselves from other controversial movements. Why do some communities feel misunderstood by the media? When does criticism become unfair, and when is it necessary accountability? And how do members reconcile the good they experienced with the harm that was done?Join us as we react to Episode 2 and share our perspective on faith, loyalty, accountability, and the lasting impact of religious leadership.What are your thoughts? Can a community honor a leader's contributions while condemning their actions? Let us know in the comments below.

Samuel Bateman is incarcerated in a federal facility serving a fifty-year sentence. He maintains regular telephone contact with followers. A meaningful number of the women and girls removed from his FLDS offshoot — including individuals Christine Marie personally helped extract — have reportedly returned to his sphere of influence. Adult wives continue to identify him as their prophet. The conviction and sentence have not disrupted his operational control over the belief system he constructed.The pattern has direct precedent. Warren Jeffs has maintained influence over FLDS members from a Texas prison cell for over a decade. Bateman is replicating the same dynamic with the same psychological infrastructure — what Christine Marie characterizes as an "IV of indoctrination" delivered through regular telephone contact.Christine Marie addresses what she has learned about the content of Bateman's prison communications with followers. She identifies the division between women who have permanently separated from the group and those who have returned — and the social consequences for those who left, including potential reclassification as fallen or as enemies of the faith. She confronts the clinical and moral question she returns to repeatedly: whether some adults who have been conditioned within high-control religious environments from birth can be reached through intervention, or whether some individuals are functionally unable to construct identity outside coercive structures.Short Creek remains structurally intact. The theology, the isolation mechanisms, and the obedience hierarchy that produced both Jeffs and Bateman continue to operate. Robin Dreeke and Shavaun Scott examine why the FLDS persists when comparable organizations — NXIVM, Peoples Temple — collapsed following their leaders' removal. They address Faith Bistline's circumstances — having lost her family to Bateman and now raising the children affected by his conduct. They evaluate what intervention methods demonstrate efficacy with children in high-control religious environments and the competing harms of removal versus continued exposure. Both experts address directly whether the conditions at Short Creek are likely to produce another leader operating on the same model — or whether the community possesses the capacity to interrupt the cycle.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ShortCreek #TrustMeNetflix #ChristineMarie #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #CoerciveControl #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

From inside a federal detention facility, Samuel Bateman maintained sufficient control over his followers that three women risked life sentences to execute his directives — communicated through a shared electronic tablet. That detail anchors the behavioral analysis of a case where the mechanisms of coercive control operated across physical separation, institutional confinement, and the threat of decades-long sentences for the people carrying out his instructions.Robin Dreeke, retired chief of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examine the operational playbook Bateman employed to construct his FLDS offshoot in the Short Creek community on the Utah-Arizona border. Bateman — homeless and without resources — entered a community still destabilized by Warren Jeffs' imprisonment. He appropriated Jeffs' prophetic authority by claiming Jeffs communicated through him. His requirement of public confessions functioned as a compliance mechanism: each confession created psychological investment that made departure increasingly costly. His insistence on being filmed reflected identity construction — the need for an external audience to validate the role he'd assigned himself. Law enforcement questioned him on two separate occasions and did not pursue charges.Christine Marie was inside Bateman's world with a camera for an extended period. She and her husband had relocated to Short Creek to document the community's recovery from the Jeffs era. Bateman identified their presence as an opportunity and granted access. Christine had previously experienced coercive control under another self-styled religious leader and recognized Bateman's behavioral patterns from firsthand experience. She understood what performance of trust was required to maintain access and preserve the evidentiary record she was building.In her first extended interview, Christine addresses the operational and psychological cost of sustained embedded access — the process of earning trust within a paranoid community, the daily discipline of entering an environment where documented harm was occurring, and the internal transition from documentary filmmaker to active participant in building the evidentiary foundation that contributed to Bateman's fifty-year federal sentence.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #TrustMeNetflix #ShortCreek #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #CoerciveControl #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

Christine Marie risked everything to get them out. Some of them walked right back in. Samuel Bateman is serving fifty years in federal prison. He still calls. The women still answer. Some of his adult wives still call him their prophet. Some of the girls Christine helped pull out of his house have returned to his sphere. The conviction changed nothing about his hold on them. The sentence changed nothing. One phone call at a time, the certainty keeps flowing — what Christine describes as an IV of indoctrination right into their veins.The same pattern held with Warren Jeffs twenty years ago. He ran the FLDS from a prison cell. Now Bateman is doing the same thing with a different phone and the same psychological infrastructure underneath it.Christine addresses what she actually knows about what Bateman feeds his followers from inside. The split between the women who got out permanently and the ones who returned — and whether the ones who left are now treated as traitors, as fallen, as enemies of the faith. Why some women can walk out of a coercive group and build a real life the way Christine did, and others can't. The question she keeps coming back to — whether some adults can be reached at all, or whether some people only feel at home inside something broken. And what real change at the federal and state level would even look like.Short Creek is still standing. Same theology. Same isolation. Same obedience structure. Every co-defendant in the Bateman case was convicted. Robin Dreeke and Shavaun Scott examine why the FLDS survives when NXIVM and Peoples Temple collapsed after their leaders fell. They talk about Faith Bistline — who lost her entire family to Bateman and is raising the children they helped destroy. What actually works to help children still inside high-control religious groups. And the question both experts answer point-blank: is Short Creek going to break the cycle, or is the machine just waiting for its next operator?Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #TrustMeNetflix #ShortCreek #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #WarrenJeffs #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

A broke, homeless man walked into a fractured religious community on the Utah-Arizona border. Three years later he was driving Bentleys, commanding fifty followers, and fathers were handing him their young daughters as spiritual wives. The behavioral question isn't whether he was evil. It's how he did it — and why every system that should have stopped him didn't.Robin Dreeke spent decades at the FBI studying exactly this kind of manipulation. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott has worked in coercive control and forensic mental health for over thirty years. Together they pull apart Samuel Bateman's behavioral playbook — the one now at the center of Netflix's Trust Me: The False Prophet.Bateman read the vulnerability of a community still reeling from Warren Jeffs' imprisonment. He claimed Jeffs was speaking through him. His demand for public confessions wasn't about accountability — it was about manufacturing complicity. Every person who confessed became invested in the system because admitting it was false meant admitting what they'd given up for it. His obsession with being filmed reveals how he saw himself — not as a con artist but as a figure of historical significance. Police questioned him twice and walked away both times. From a federal detention cell, he maintained enough control that three women risked life sentences to carry out his orders through a shared tablet.Christine Marie was inside his world with a camera every day. She didn't go to Short Creek looking for Bateman — she and her husband moved there to document a community recovering from Jeffs. Then Bateman appeared and saw two outsiders with cameras as the path to the audience he wanted. He let them in. Christine had survived coercive control with another false prophet years before. She could read every move he was making because she'd seen it done on her. She knew exactly what trust to perform to keep his guard down.In her first extended interview, Christine describes the cost of living that double life — gaining the trust of paranoid believers, walking into that house every morning knowing what she was watching, and the moment "documentary maker" became "mole" inside her own head.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #TrustMeNetflix #ShortCreek #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #WarrenJeffs

Robin Dreeke ran the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. He's spent decades studying how people manipulate, recruit, and control. Samuel Bateman's playbook is one he recognizes — and the behavioral fingerprints are visible in every move the self-proclaimed prophet made on his way to fifty years in federal prison.Bateman targeted a community still fractured from Warren Jeffs' imprisonment. He claimed Jeffs was speaking through him — borrowing existing authority rather than building his own from scratch. His requirement of public confessions wasn't spiritual discipline. It was a compliance trap. Every person who confessed became invested because admitting the system was false meant admitting what they'd surrendered to it. His insistence on being filmed wasn't vanity — it was identity construction. He needed an external audience to validate the role he'd assigned himself. Police questioned him twice. They walked away both times.Even from a federal detention cell, Bateman maintained enough control that three women risked life sentences to carry out his orders through a shared tablet. Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examine what that level of remote control reveals about the psychological infrastructure he'd built — and whether it could survive his incarceration.Christine Marie saw it all from the inside. She sat at Bateman's table every day with a camera. She'd survived coercive control with another false prophet years earlier and could read every move he was making because she'd experienced the same techniques firsthand. She knew what trust to perform. She knew when his guard dropped. She knew the difference between a man who believed his own prophecy and one who was running a con — and she has an answer to that question.Christine describes the cost of maintaining the double life — earning the trust of paranoid followers, walking into the house every morning, and the moment her role shifted from documenter to something closer to an operative inside a closed world she'd entered voluntarily. That transition — and what it did to her — is the part the documentary couldn't fully capture.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #TrustMeNetflix #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #FBI #BehavioralAnalysis #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

The legal case is closed. Samuel Bateman is serving fifty years. Every co-defendant was convicted. And Short Creek is still standing — same theology, same isolation, same obedience structure that produced both Warren Jeffs and Bateman. The machine didn't break. It just lost its current operator.Robin Dreeke and Shavaun Scott examine why the FLDS survives when other cults collapsed after their leaders fell. NXIVM dissolved. Peoples Temple ended in mass death. The FLDS keeps regenerating. The theology provides the framework. The isolation provides the barrier. The obedience structure provides the pipeline. And the community has now demonstrated twice that when a leader is removed, the conditions that created him remain intact.They talk about Faith Bistline — who lost her entire family to Bateman and is now raising the children they helped destroy. About what actually works to help children still inside high-control religious groups when removing them causes devastating psychological consequences and leaving them in produces worse ones. About whether Jeffs can maintain control of the FLDS indefinitely from a prison cell — and whether Bateman is doing the same thing right now.Because Bateman is still calling. Every day. From federal prison. The women still answer. Some of his adult wives still call him their prophet. Some of the girls Christine Marie helped rescue have returned to his sphere. The sentence didn't end his control. The conviction didn't end his control. Christine describes the phone calls as an IV of indoctrination — certainty flowing one conversation at a time into people whose entire identity was built inside a system designed to make leaving feel like dying.Christine addresses the split between the women who got out and the women who went back. Whether the ones who left are now treated as enemies of the faith. The ugly question she can't stop asking: whether some adults can be reached at all. And what real systemic change would look like — or whether this is just the cost of a country that lets people believe whatever they want, even when what they believe is destroying children.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ShortCreek #TrustMeNetflix #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #FaithBistline #WarrenJeffs #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

All three parts of our interview with Christine Marie, woven together into one extended conversation — the cult psychologist and survivor who walked into Samuel Bateman's FLDS inner circle, fed the FBI the evidence that ended his freedom for fifty years, and is still living in Short Creek today doing the work nobody else will.She wasn't even supposed to be there for him. She and her husband Tolga came to that stretch of the Utah-Arizona border in 2016 to film a different story entirely. Then Bateman stepped out of the post-Warren Jeffs wreckage, declared himself the new prophet, and started taking "spiritual wives," some of them girls. He let Christine in. He thought she was going to make him famous. He didn't know she'd already lived through coercive control herself, years before, with a different false prophet — and that everything he was doing, she'd seen done before.In this extended interview, she takes us through it all. How she pulled off the cover. What it cost to live that double life. The wait — years of local police who believed her tapes and refused to act. The recording she captured in late 2021 that finally moved the FBI. Julia Johnson, the mother she flipped. The morning of the raid. And then the part of the story that doesn't fit on a documentary's ending card — that fifty years in federal prison didn't end Bateman's hold on those women, and a number of the ones Christine risked her life to free are calling him their prophet still.It's the longest, most honest version of the entire arc — getting in, taking him down, and the unfinished fight afterward.LINKS BLOCKJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #HiddenKillers #TrustMeFalseProphet #ShortCreek #WarrenJeffs #Cults #TrueCrime #Netflix

Samuel Bateman is in federal prison, serving fifty years, and his hold on his followers has not loosened. Some of his adult wives still call him their prophet. Some of the women Christine Marie risked her life to pull out of his house have returned to him on their own. He picks up the phone from his cell every day and the indoctrination keeps flowing right into their ears.In this third and final part of a three-part conversation, Christine Marie sits down with Tony to tell the part of the Bateman story the documentaries struggle to land. The conviction didn't end it. The sentence didn't end it. The exposure didn't end it. Warren Jeffs went to prison for life and his followers never let go either, and now the same population, in the same town, is doing the same thing with the next prophet who rose to take his place.Christine takes Tony through what she actually knows about what Bateman is telling those women from inside. The split between the women who left and the women who returned, and whether the ones who got out are now treated as fallen, as enemies of the faith. Why some women can walk out of a coercive group and rebuild — Christine herself did exactly that, years before she ever met Bateman — and others cannot. The point at which she's had to ask herself whether some grown adults may only ever feel at home inside something broken. And whether any change at the federal or state level would actually stop the next prophet from rising in Short Creek next.LINKS BLOCKJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #TrueCrimeToday #ShortCreek #CultPsychology #CoerciveControl #TrueCrime #WarrenJeffs #Netflix

The end of the Samuel Bateman story isn't the end. He's behind bars for fifty years and the women he claimed as wives are doing something almost nobody wants to talk about — going back to him. Not all of them. But enough of them that the question stops being a fluke and starts being a pattern.In this third and final part of our three-part conversation with Christine Marie, we get into the truth the Netflix documentary couldn't fully hold. Some of the people Christine risked her life to save have returned to Bateman by their own choice. Some still call him their prophet. He communicates with them by phone from federal prison, and the same indoctrination he was running on them before the raid keeps flowing right through the line. Warren Jeffs' followers never let go of him either, and now the same pattern is repeating, with the same population, in the same town.Christine tells me what that's been like to watch. What she actually knows about what Bateman is telling those women from inside. The split that's opened up between the women who got out for good and the ones who returned — whether they still speak, whether the women who left are now treated as the fallen, the enemy, the betrayers. Why some women can leave a coercive group and rebuild, the way Christine did herself, and others physically cannot. The point — if there is one — where you have to accept that some grown adults may never want what you're offering them. And what real systemic change would even look like for the next prophet who rises out of this same community next.LINKS BLOCKJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #HiddenKillers #ShortCreek #CultPsychology #CoerciveControl #TrueCrime #WarrenJeffs #Netflix

He's locked up. He's still calling. And his wives are still picking up.In this third and final part of a three-part interview, Christine Marie walks me through the part of the Samuel Bateman story that doesn't fit on a true crime documentary's ending card. The arrest didn't free those women. The fifty-year sentence didn't free them. The conviction didn't free them. A number of the people Christine risked everything to get out have walked right back to him by their own choice, the same way Warren Jeffs' followers never let go even after his life sentence.Christine has called what Bateman is doing from inside an IV of indoctrination — the certainty fed directly into the believers' veins, one phone call at a time. She tells me what she actually knows about what's being said on those calls. The split between the women who got out for good and the ones who returned, and whether the ones who left are now seen by the others as traitors to the faith. Why some women in coercive groups can leave and rebuild — Christine herself did exactly that, years earlier, with a different false prophet — and others cannot. The hardest question of the whole conversation: when grown adults keep going back to something that's hurting them, how long do you keep trying to get them out, and when do you have to admit some people may only feel at home inside something broken? And whether anything at the federal or state level would actually keep the next prophet from rising out of the same town.LINKS BLOCKJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #HiddenKillersLive #ShortCreek #CultPsychology #CoerciveControl #TrueCrime #WarrenJeffs #Netflix

Christine Marie watched Samuel Bateman every single day for years. She sat at his table. She filmed his sermons. She listened to his wives recite their devotion to him. And she has an answer to the question true crime listeners keep asking about him — was he a true believer, or did he know, deep down, that he was a fraud?She's the one outsider who got close enough to actually know.Christine and her husband Tolga moved to Short Creek with a completely different project in mind, planning to film something else entirely in the FLDS community along the Utah-Arizona border. Then Samuel Bateman walked into their lives — a self-proclaimed prophet rising out of the wreckage of Warren Jeffs' imprisonment, taking "spiritual wives," some of them children, claiming Jeffs spoke through him. He thought Christine and Tolga were going to make him famous. He gave them access nobody else got. And the entire time, she was watching him with the eyes of a woman who'd once fallen for a false prophet herself, years earlier — a woman who knew every move he was making because she'd had them made on her.In this opening conversation of our three-part interview, Christine takes us inside Bateman's world. Why he trusted her. What it cost to maintain that lie every day. The performance the women around him put on — and the real belief underneath it. The moment she admitted, even to herself, that "filmmaker" had become "mole." And what she saw in Bateman that made her wonder whether even he knew the whole thing was a con.LINKS BLOCKJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #HiddenKillersLive #ShortCreek #WarrenJeffs #Cults #TrueCrime #ColoradoCity #Netflix

In Part 2 of our interview with Nomz from the documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, we continue her powerful story as she opens up about being given to Samuel Bateman and what life was really like under his control.Nomz answers questions about the documentary, shares details about her time in prison, and explains the emotional and mental process of breaking free from the beliefs she was raised with under both Warren Jeffs and Samuel Bateman.We discuss the fear, manipulation, and conditioning that kept people loyal for so long — and what it actually took for her to begin questioning everything she had been taught since childhood. She also shares what starting over has looked like, the challenges of rebuilding her identity, and how she's learning to create a new life outside of the FLDS mindset.This conversation is raw, honest, heartbreaking, and hopeful all at the same time.#SamuelBateman #WarrenJeffs #FLDS #TrustMeTheFalseProphet #ExFLDS #Polygamy #CultSurvivor #MormonFundamentalism #TrueStorySupport Nomz!Tiktok @nomzia_b Insta @nomzia_b Facebook Nomzia BistlineVenmo @nomzia_b CashApp $NomziBistlineIf you are struggling with hopelessness, fear, suicidal thoughts, or feeling trapped, please know you are not alone. In the U.S. and Canada, you can call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline for free, confidential support 24/7.If you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.orgAt Growing Up In Polygamy our mission is to "Create compassion for communities that have been misunderstood, marginalized and/or abused by their leaders, and to empower those who have left by giving them a platform to share their stories with the world."If you would like to DONATE to this cause you can do so here: https://donorbox.org/growing-up-in-polygamyInsta: @growingupinpolygamywww.growingupinpolygamy.comTheme Song created by @artcowles Please feel free to reach out to us!growingupinpolygamy@gmail.comCreate Shorts Easily like us with Opus Clips: https://www.opus.pro/?via=SamandMelissa

In Part 1 of our interview with Nomz from the documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, she shares what life was really like growing up inside the FLDS under the control of Warren Jeffs, long before Samuel Bateman entered her life.Nomz opens up about losing her father after he was sent away by the church, becoming part of the United Order, and living in an environment where individuality and creativity were punished instead of encouraged. She explains how fear, obedience, and control shaped every part of daily life in the FLDS, and how those experiences made her vulnerable to manipulation later on.She also shares the disturbing way Samuel Bateman began secretly targeting and harassing her, convincing her that terrible things happening around her were somehow her fault because she refused to “give herself” to him. Eventually, she felt trapped into believing that going with him was the only way to protect the people she loved.This is the beginning of a powerful and heartbreaking story about religious control, fear, grooming, and survival.#FLDS #SamuelBateman #WarrenJeffs #TrustMeTheFalseProphet #ExFLDS #Polygamy #CultSurvivor #MormonFundamentalismSupport Nomz!Tiktok ⁨@nomzia_b⁩ Insta ⁨@nomzia_b⁩ Facebook Nomzia BistlineVenmo ⁨@nomzia_b⁩ CashApp $NomziBistlineIf you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.orgAt Growing Up In Polygamy our mission is to "Create compassion for communities that have been misunderstood, marginalized and/or abused by their leaders, and to empower those who have left by giving them a platform to share their stories with the world."If you would like to DONATE to this cause you can do so here: https://donorbox.org/growing-up-in-polygamyInsta: @growingupinpolygamywww.growingupinpolygamy.comTheme Song created by @artcowles Please feel free to reach out to us!growingupinpolygamy@gmail.comCreate Shorts Easily like us with Opus Clips: https://www.opus.pro/?via=SamandMelissa

Dr. Christine Marie, who along with her husband Tolga helped expose a man named, Samuel Bateman, who claimed to be the self-proclaimed prophet of a religious polygamous sect, known as the FLDS. Samuel Bateman claimed the group's leader, Warren Jeffs, had died while in prison, and he was the now the prophet. It is reported that Bateman formed his own group within the FLDS, where his male followers not only gave their adult wives to the him, but also their underage daughters, as young as 9 years old, to become Bateman's “wives,” and who he would sexually abuse. Dr.Phil will speak with Dr. Christine, who along with her husband Tolga, would earn the trust of Samuel Bateman and his followers, and be invited to spend one and a half years filming hundreds of hours of footage with them. Dr. Christine and Tolga would eventually begin secretly working with the FBI, while continuing to be embedded within the sect. Samuel Bateman would eventually be arrested and sentenced to 50 years in prison for the crimes he committed against his underage wives. Many of his adult male and female followers were also held to justice. Christine, Tolga, and their footage are featured in the Netflix 4 part documentary series, “Trust Me: The False Prophet,” which chronicles the rise and fall of Samuel Bateman, and is streaming now on Netflix.This episode is brought to you by:Don't wait! If you're on Medicare or will be soon, reach out to Chapter: Call: (352)-845-0659 or go to https://askchapter.org to learn about your Medicare options and get help finding ways to save money.Diabetes doesn't wait. And the cost of waiting can be devastating. But there is another option you need to know about. Learn more: https://drphildiabetes.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Grab your beverage of choice — because Jess has at least three of them. This week's Superwoman Diaries is peak real life: protein struggles and gut health deep dives, surviving food poisoning on the GLP-1, middle-of-the-night cortisol pushups, anxiety packing for a fifth grade field trip to Zion, and somehow landing on a conversation about platypuses and the birds and the bees with an eleven-year-old. Kelly and Jess also swap their current favorite mini-documentaries, and spoiler — one of them involves cults, an undercover psychologist, and the FBI. Just a normal Tuesday. In This Episode: Jess's beverage situation: creatine, Starbucks refresher concentrate, frozen dragon fruit, and the superfood bag that said five grams of fiber Kelly tracking her protein and macros on MyFitnessPal — and the bloating incident that came from putting protein powder in coffee on an empty stomach The 30-30-3 rule Cassidy shared: 30g protein, 30g fiber, and 3 servings of probiotics at your first meal Jess's gut health routine: probiotics, kombucha shots, and why it matters on a GLP-1 Getting food poisoning from a Mediterranean chicken salad and spending Monday on the BRAT diet — and discovering B-Free gluten-free sourdough bread from Walmart Skipping her volunteer signup for Gio's field trip and the guilt that came with it Kelly's 3am waking problem, the cortisol explanation, and doing 20 pushups in the bathroom to fall back asleep The sleep supplement breakdown: melatonin vs. magnesium vs. cortisol manager, and who each one actually helps Alpha-STIM for anxiety, insomnia, and depression — Jess's pitch for them both to try it Staying up until 2am reading Off Campus, the hockey romance series coming to Amazon Prime, and completely tanking her sleep hygiene Mini-documentary recommendations: Trust Me: The False Prophet on Netflix — the story of a PhD psychologist who embedded herself with a fundamentalist LDS community after Warren Jeffs was imprisoned and ended up working with the FBI The conversation Jess had with Gio about critical thinking, body autonomy, listening to your gut, and what to do when someone in power is telling you something feels wrong — sparked by watching a bit of the documentary together "Who created sex?" — how an 11-year-old's questions took a hard left turn through farm animals, platypuses, and egg-laying mammals Freebie Mentioned

A rising prophet, a fractured FLDS community, and the shadow of Warren Jeffs set the stage for the story of Samuel Bateman and the unsettling power he claimed. Hidden recordings, shifting loyalties, and the presence of Christine Marie and Tolga Katas reveal a world where belief and control blur in unexpected ways. What unfolds raises deeper disturbing questions about influence, trust, and how far people will go in the name of faith.Head over the ShakenAndDisturbed.com for new merchandise, blogs for our episodes, YouTube videos, and Patreon!Watch and listen to this and every other episode several days early on Patreon! Patreon members can join us during our live recordings, comment on the case, participate in polls and get shout outs! Join for as little as $5 a month right here!Follow John on Twitter @jthrasher, Instagram @jthrasher and TikTok @johnthrasherFollow Daryn on Twitter @CarpeDaryn and Instagram @CarpeDaryn

This week is part one with Nomzia “Nomz” Bistline, from the Netflix docuseries Trust Me: The False Prophet (with Lola’s mom, Christine!). Nomz joins the girls to talk about what it was like growing up in polygamist group the FLDS after leader Warren Jeffs went to prison, how she was raised in poverty and taught to be paranoid about the outside world, and how many of the fathers in the community were sidelined and sent away.She explains how Samuel Bateman began claiming that he was the new prophet, and what it was like when he started targeting her and wearing her down over time, threatening her salvation and ultimately coercing her into becoming one of his wives. And next week, she’ll talk about the raid, Sam’s conviction, and her relationship with Christine now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A lively episode of Loaded Pod with D.J., Kelly, Isaac and guests — opening banter and improv, reactions to recent documentaries (FLDS/false prophet, Lou Pearlman/boy bands), a deep discussion of Below Deck season 5 and problematic cast behavior, a two-part listener call from Ivy about her best man's arrest and wedding drama, quick takes on the Mike Vrabel/Diana Rasini story and The Boys season, practical socializing advice for a listener's shy sister, updates about hosts' lives and Patreon plugs. Mix of humor, blunt advice, and heartfelt moments about family and reconciliation. Chapter markers: 00:00:00 — Intro & theme song hijinks 00:01:00 — Documentary talk: FLDS / Warren Jeffs 00:05:00 — Lou Pearlman, boy bands & industry scams 00:08:30 — Upcoming collab with Brad Williams & JB 00:10:50 — Below Deck season discussion (Ellie, crew dynamics) 00:16:20 — Listener call: Ivy — Part 1 (best man arrested) 00:20:20 — Hosts react & advice on wedding decisions 00:20:55 — Listener call: Ivy — Part 2 (bail update) 00:25:00 — Quick call: Mike Vrabel / Diana Rasini scandal 00:28:30 — Politics, lawsuits & hot takes 00:31:00 — Pop culture: Coldplay / Chris Martin mention 00:32:20 — The Boys / graphic content reaction 00:35:20 — Scheduling & personal plans (karaoke, parade) 00:36:50 — Unqualified advice: social tips for a shy 19-year-old 00:40:30 — Family reconciliation / apology story (emotional) 00:46:00 — Patreon plug, contact info & sign-off 00:51:00 — Outro YouTube tags: Loaded Pod, DJ Kelly, Isaac, podcast highlights, Below Deck, FLDS documentary, Warren Jeffs, Lou Pearlman, boy bands, Ivy wedding drama, best man arrested, Mike Vrabel, Diana Rasini, The Boys season 5, social advice, podcast clips, comedy podcast, unqualified advice, celebrity gossip, podcast Patreon Contact / CTA (short): Join Patreon for extended episodes and early access: patreon.com/loadepod (or email loadedpod@gmail.com). Call the show: (323) 272-3908. #DJQualls #KellyBlackheart #LockedandProbablyLoaded #loadedpod #LockedandProbablyloadedpodcast, #DJQuallsPodcast #Supernatural #SPNfamily, #LoadedPod #PodcastHighlights #BelowDeck #WeddingDrama #PopCulture Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

PopaHALLics #163 "Pop-ping up Everywhere"Buckle up, kids! On this episode, we zoom around from deep space to 1998 New York to Palestine to Ireland to a Mormon community in Utah to Elle Fanning's bedroom. Note: Three of the trailers below open with someone waking up gasping. Prepare to be breathless!  Theaters:"Project Hail Mary." In this huge sci-fi hit, a high school science teacher (Ryan Gosling) must reluctantly save the Earth. And make an unlikely friend in the process. Based on the novel by Andy Weir ("The Martian").Streaming:"Caught Stealing," Netflix. Watching his neighbor's cat forces a former baseball prodigy (Austin Butler) into contact with some very bad gangsters in this violent dark comedy. With Regina King, Zoe Kravitz, Liev Schreiber, and Vincent D'Onofrio. Extra points if you spot Griffin Dunne!"Margo's Got Money Troubles," Apple TV. A single mom college student (Elle Fanning) uses her creative skills to get money through an Only Fans account in this comedy drama. With Michelle Pfeiffer and Nick Offerman."Trust Me: The False Prophet," Netflix. In this documentary, a cult expert and her husband embed themselves in a Mormon community, where Samuel Bateman claims to be the successor to imprisoned prophet Warren Jeffs."War Machine," Netflix. During the final stage of Army Ranger selection, an elite team's training exercise turns into a very real fight for survival against an alien threat in this action thriller. Starring Alan Ritchson and Dennis Quaid."The Truth and Tragedy of Moriah Wilson," Netflix. This documentary explores "the vibrant life of a pro cyclist, her shocking murder, and how far her killer went to evade capture" (Netflix).Books:"Too Soon," by Betty Shamieh. This 2025 debut novel follows three generations of Palestinian women as they navigate love, identity, and displacement from 1948 to the present day."Murder in G Major: A Gethsemane Brown Mystery," by Alexia Gordon. In this 2015 cozy mystery, a struggling African-American conductor' takes a job working with high school musicians in Ireland and living in a cliffside cottage. The ghost of the cottage''s owner, a famous composer, asks for her help in clearing his name of the murders of his wife and himself. Witty and fun.The Fair Use Doctrine of U.S. copy[right law allows for the limited unauthorized use of copyrighted materials for purposes such as comment and criticism.

Did Samuel Bateman copy Warren Jeffs… or was he taught?In this video, we break down a side of the Samuel Bateman case that isn't being widely discussed. While many believe Bateman may have learned from Warren Jeffs' journals, we've come across firsthand accounts and insights that suggest something much deeper may have been happening inside the FLDS community.We talk about reports from former wives and family members of Warren Jeffs, who describe how some of his wives were allegedly going throughout the community “teaching” others what Warren had done—pairing people together, promoting so-called “revelations,” and continuing behaviors even after Warren was in prison.We also discuss the role of individuals like Moroni Johnson and how these situations may not have been isolated—but part of something already unfolding behind the scenes.We bring our perspective to help explain the mindset, the power structure, and how something like this could spread.This isn't just about one man. It's about understanding the system.

Découvrez l'effroyable traque de Warren Jeffs.  leader autoproclamé d'un mouvement religieux sectaire, longtemps intouchable. Derrière ses discours, un système de contrôle total, de manipulations psychologiques et d'abus passés sous silence. Pendant des années, il a échappé à la justice, s'est volatilisé, protégé par ses fidèles et par la peur. Mais peu à peu, les témoignages se multiplient. Et la traque commence.  Un podcast Bababam Originals Textes : Capucine Lebot Voix : Anne Cosmao, Aurélien Gouas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Warren Jeffs will die behind bars. The FLDS he built is hemorrhaging members. Short Creek—the community he sealed off from the world—now has soccer games, bars, and a winery. But the story is not over. From a Texas prison cell, Jeffs continues issuing edicts. A hardened core of followers—scattered across multiple states—still considers him their prophet. Reports suggest plural marriage may be restarting in hidden locations.The final episode of the Hidden Killers five-part FLDS series covers the financial reckoning: a $152 million judgment, a $12 million food stamp fraud case, and Elissa Wall's years-long pursuit of hidden assets through shell companies. We cover the Bateman connection—how the FLDS vacuum produced another self-declared prophet who was arrested on federal charges and died in custody. And we cover the people rebuilding—the Lost Boys reclaiming the community that expelled them, the survivors who testified, and the organizations providing resources to those still trying to leave.For the true crime community, this is the question that refuses to close: the man is in prison, the money is hidden, the community is scattered, and the faithful are still waiting for their prophet to come home. Is it over? The evidence says not yet.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #TrueCrimeToday #FLDSToday #FLDSChurch #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #ProphetInPrison #CultSurvivors #CultExposed

The evidence seized from the Yearning for Zion Ranch reads like a prosecution's exhibit list assembled by the defendant himself. The Bishop's Record—a handwritten ledger documenting underage marriages. Photographs of Warren Jeffs with a pre-teen girl in ceremonial settings. Medical records showing dozens of children with histories of bone fractures. And the recordings: Jeffs' own voice, captured during assaults inside the temple he had built.Part Four of the Hidden Killers investigation into Warren Jeffs and the FLDS covers the full legal arc—from a hoax phone call that triggered the largest child removal in American history, through the public backlash and Texas Supreme Court reversal, to the 2011 trial in San Angelo where Jeffs represented himself and was convicted in under thirty minutes. We examine the Utah case that was overturned on flawed jury instructions, the moral and constitutional questions raised by the raid's scope, and the evidence that made the Texas conviction unassailable: the defendant's own voice, on tape, in the room.The jury heard what Warren Jeffs did. The FLDS faithful heard the same recordings and called it martyrdom. Same evidence. Two realities.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #HiddenKillers #YFZRanch #WarrenJeffsTrial #FLDSChurch #TrueCrime #CultInvestigation #TexasRaid #CultExposed

The conviction was life plus twenty years. The civil judgment was $152 million. And Warren Jeffs is still issuing orders from a prison cell in East Texas. According to multiple reports, his brothers have served as conduits—using coded letters and allegedly hidden recording devices to relay instructions. A 2022 edict called former members back to the FLDS and triggered the redistribution of children among families deemed worthy or unworthy by a man who will never walk free.The final episode of the Hidden Killers investigation into Warren Jeffs and the FLDS examines the aftermath of the conviction. The $152 million judgment that may be uncollectible. Elissa Wall's pursuit of Jeffs' hidden money through shell companies and remote land purchases. Seth Jeffs' guilty plea in a $12 million food stamp fraud scheme. The faithful remnant scattered in hidden compounds. The rise and fall of Samuel Bateman—the self-declared prophet who filled the vacuum Jeffs left. And the transformation of Short Creek, where the community Jeffs controlled for decades has been released from court supervision ahead of schedule.The FLDS is fractured. It is not dead. And the question this investigation ends on is whether the system that produced Warren Jeffs can outlive the man who built it.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #HiddenKillers #FLDSToday #FLDSChurch #TrueCrime #CultInvestigation #ProphetInPrison #CultSurvivors #ShortCreek

In 2008, Texas authorities raided the FLDS Yearning for Zion Ranch and removed more than 460 children—the largest child custody action in U.S. history. The phone call that triggered the raid came from a woman in Colorado who had never been to the ranch. It was a complete fabrication. And it led investigators to evidence that was anything but fake.Inside the compound: a temple with beds for underage ceremonies. A Bishop's Record documenting child marriages. More than one in four of the teenage girls either married or pregnant. And audio recordings that captured Warren Jeffs' voice during the assaults of two children—a twelve-year-old and a fifteen-year-old who later bore his child. The Texas jury deliberated less than thirty minutes before convicting Jeffs and sentencing him to life plus twenty years.Part Four of the Hidden Killers FLDS series covers the raid, the backlash, and the trial—including the Utah conviction that was overturned on a technicality and why Texas made sure the same mistake wasn't repeated. For the true crime community, this is the chapter where the system finally catches up to the man it ignored for decades.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #TrueCrimeToday #YFZRanch #TexasRaid #FLDSChurch #WarrenJeffsTrial #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #CultExposed

Warren Jeffs did not run alone. When the FLDS prophet vanished to avoid charges in Arizona and Utah, the community that worshipped him bankrolled the escape. Cash, prepaid debit cards, untraceable phones, rotating safe houses—the operation was funded by the tithes of families who believed they were serving God. His brother Seth was caught in a separate traffic stop with nearly $142,000 and a change jar labeled Pennies for the Prophet.The FBI placed Jeffs on its Ten Most Wanted list in May 2006 with a $100,000 reward. Three months later, a Nevada trooper pulled over a red Escalade for an obscured plate. Inside: Jeffs, his favorite wife Naomi, his brother Isaac, three wigs, a police scanner, and $54,000 in cash. When questioned separately, Warren said Denver. Isaac said Utah. That was it.Part Three of the Hidden Killers FLDS series covers the manhunt, the funded escape network, and the arrest that ended it. We also cover the moment Jeffs told his own brother he was a fraud—and then took it all back. For the true crime community following the FLDS story, this is the chapter that shows how a cult's loyalty system operates even when the leader is in the wind.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #TrueCrimeToday #FBIMostWanted #FLDSChurch #FugitiveArrest #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #CultLeader #CultExposed

The evidence trail that ended Warren Jeffs' fugitive run did not start with a wiretap or an informant. It started with a temporary Colorado plate that wasn't visible on a red Cadillac Escalade. When trooper Eddie Dutchover pulled the vehicle over on I-15 near Las Vegas, he found the 482nd person to ever make the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list sitting in the passenger seat with a fake name and a story that fell apart under the first question.Part Three of the Hidden Killers investigation into Warren Jeffs and the FLDS documents the infrastructure of a fugitive operation funded by church tithes. Seth Jeffs caught with $142,000 in cash. Prepaid financial instruments that left no bank trail. Rotating safe houses across multiple states. And the most damning detail: while actively fleeing federal charges, Jeffs returned to Colorado City and performed additional child marriages in a mobile home chapel. The prophet on the run was still committing the crimes he was running from.We also examine the jailhouse video in which Jeffs renounced his prophethood—then reversed course entirely. The power was the point. It was always the point.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #HiddenKillers #FBIMostWanted #FLDSChurch #FugitiveArrest #TrueCrime #CultLeader #CultInvestigation #WarrenJeffsArrest

The true crime community knows the name Warren Jeffs. The FBI manhunt, the Texas trial, the life sentence—those are the headlines. But the story that matters most is the one that happened before any of that, inside the FLDS community, where children were the currency of a system designed by one man.Girls were given to men decades older in so-called celestial marriages. Boys were expelled by the hundreds—dumped on roadsides with no education and no identification—because their existence was mathematically inconvenient. Wives were stripped from husbands and reassigned to new men at Jeffs' command. One woman was passed between Jeffs' own brothers, moved to homes without running water, and watched as a caretaker scratched her children's faces as discipline. A federal court later awarded her over $26 million.Part Two of the Hidden Killers five-part series on Warren Jeffs and the FLDS goes deep inside the machine—the keep sweet doctrine, the information blackout, the marriage economy, and the government failure that allowed it all to happen for half a century. If you've watched the documentaries, this fills in everything they left out.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #TrueCrimeToday #KeepSweet #FLDSChurch #ChildBrides #LostBoys #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #CultExposed

The evidence is staggering in its scope. Under Warren Jeffs, the FLDS married girls as young as twelve to men decades older. Of the girls aged fourteen to seventeen on the YFZ Ranch, more than one in four was either married or pregnant when investigators finally gained access. Hundreds of teenage boys were expelled to reduce competition for brides. Wives were reassigned to new husbands when their original partners fell out of favor. And the entire system operated behind a wall of silence enforced by two words: keep sweet.Part Two of the Hidden Killers investigation into Warren Jeffs and the FLDS examines the internal mechanics of the machine. How information was sealed—no TV, no internet, no unapproved books. How marriage functioned as a reward system for loyalists and a punishment for dissenters. How the 1953 Short Creek raid created a fifty-year window where no government agency would intervene, and how Jeffs exploited that paralysis to expand his control unchecked. We follow Elissa Wall from her forced marriage at fourteen through her decision to cooperate with prosecutors, and we document the trajectory of the Lost Boys—from expulsion to homelessness to a $250,000 settlement that valued their stolen childhoods at pennies on the dollar.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #HiddenKillers #ForcedMarriage #LostBoys #FLDSChurch #TrueCrime #CultAbuse #KeepSweet #CultInvestigation

Before the FBI manhunt, before the Texas raid, before the trial that ended with life in prison—Warren Jeffs was a school principal. That is where the FLDS story actually begins. For twenty years, Jeffs ran Alta Academy, a private school inside his father's compound, shaping children into obedient followers through fear, isolation, and a carefully constructed mythology of coming destruction. When his father died, Jeffs inherited the church—and immediately married his father's widows, expelled rivals, and seized control of the land trust that owned every home in the FLDS community.The consolidation was surgical. Marriage became a weapon—Jeffs alone could authorize who married whom, and he used that power to reward loyalists with young brides while stripping dissenters of their families overnight. His own nephew later filed a lawsuit alleging Jeffs had abused him as a child in the basement of that school. The allegations went back to when Jeffs was fourteen.This is Part One of the Hidden Killers five-part Warren Jeffs and FLDS series. The true crime community has followed this case through documentaries and headlines. This series goes deeper—starting at the beginning, when the only people who knew what Warren Jeffs was capable of were the children trapped in his classroom.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #TrueCrimeToday #FLDSChurch #CultLeader #TrueCrime #ShortCreek #PolygamyCult #HiddenKillers #CultExposed

The Warren Jeffs story didn't begin with an arrest or a courtroom. It began inside a school. At twenty-one, Jeffs was running Alta Academy—a private FLDS school housed in his father's compound—with no degree and unchecked authority over hundreds of children. Former students describe destruction lectures that gave them nightmares for years, private interrogation sessions with kids as young as second grade, and a surveillance culture where children were rewarded for informing on their own parents.When his father Rulon died in 2002, Jeffs moved fast. He claimed his father's widows as his own wives. He expelled dissenters and redistributed their families to loyalists. He used his sole authority over FLDS marriages to build a network of men who owed him everything—and he controlled the $100 million United Effort Plan trust that held every home in Short Creek. Cross him, and you lost your wife, your kids, and your roof in the same conversation.Part One of our five-part investigation into Warren Jeffs and the FLDS examines how absolute power is assembled—not in a single dramatic act, but quietly, over decades, by a man who figured out that controlling someone's family, home, education, and God means you never need to raise your voice.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#WarrenJeffs #FLDS #HiddenKillers #CultInvestigation #FLDSChurch #TrueCrime #ShortCreek #PolygamyCult #CultLeader #TrueCrimePodcast

The Samuel Bateman case is back in the spotlight with Netflix's Trust Me: The False Prophet — and the question the documentary raises but can't fully answer is the one that matters most: how did he do it? How does a man with no money, no institutional authority, and no special training convince fifty people to follow him, fund him, and hand him their children?In Part 1 of this three-part panel discussion, former FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott join Tony Brueski to break down the specific behavioral strategies Bateman employed. The exploitation of a community in crisis after Warren Jeffs' imprisonment. The weaponization of confession and shame. The narcissistic need for an audience that led him to invite filmmakers into his own criminal operation. The construction of loyalty so complete that followers executed a kidnapping on his orders while he sat in a federal cell.This conversation goes beyond the documentary into the science of manipulation, the psychology of obedience, and the behavioral red flags that were present from the beginning — visible to trained eyes but invisible to the people inside the system. If you followed the Bateman case, if you watched the Netflix doc, if you've ever wondered how a cult leader gets that first person to say yes — this is the conversation.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #ShortCreek #FalseProphet #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #CultAbuse #TrustMeNetflix #RobinDreeke

The prosecution of Samuel Bateman and his eleven co-defendants is the most thorough federal takedown of a cult-based child trafficking operation in recent memory. Every defendant convicted. Sentences ranging from time served to life. Restitution orders. Asset forfeiture. On paper, the system worked.But the FLDS has been raided before — in 1953, in 2008. Prophets have been arrested, tried, and imprisoned before. Warren Jeffs got life. And within a few years, the same community produced Samuel Bateman. The question this final segment of our three-part panel confronts is whether the Bateman prosecution represents a genuine turning point or another chapter in a cycle that the FLDS is structurally designed to repeat.Former FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott join Tony Brueski to examine what comes next. The community members who are rebuilding — Faith Bistline raising rescued children, the Dream Center operating from Jeffs' former compound, survivors reclaiming their lives. And the structural realities that resist change — Jeffs still directing operations from prison, thousands of members still inside the system, a theology that interprets outside pressure as persecution.Both experts are asked directly whether another Bateman is coming. Their answers frame the question the true crime community — and the justice system — will be grappling with for years.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ShortCreek #FaithBistline #CultJustice #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #FalseProphet #TrustMeNetflix #CultRecovery

Bateman is in prison. Bistline got life. The case is over. But every time someone asks whether this is finished, the answer keeps circling back to the same uncomfortable truth — the FLDS has survived every attempt to dismantle it for nearly a century. Warren Jeffs is still reportedly running operations from a Texas cell. The One Man Rule doctrine that created the vacancy Bateman filled hasn't changed. And somewhere in Short Creek, children are growing up under the same conditions that produced the last two generations of victims.This is the final part of our three-part panel with former FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, and Tony Brueski. We go where the Netflix documentary can't — into the structural question of whether any amount of prosecution can break a cycle that's embedded in theology, geography, and generational conditioning.We talk about Faith Bistline raising the children her brothers sacrificed. Christine Marie still living in Short Creek, still running her nonprofit. The Dream Center operating out of Jeffs' former compound. These are real signs of change. But Shavaun and Robin bring the hard lens — what they've each seen in their careers about how systems like this adapt, survive, and regenerate. The final question is direct: another Bateman, or is this where it finally turns? Both experts answer it honestly.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #ShortCreek #FaithBistline #CultJustice #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #FalseProphet #TrustMeNetflix #CultRecovery

You've heard what Samuel Bateman did. Twenty wives. Children as young as nine. Fifty years in federal prison. But the part the Netflix doc Trust Me: The False Prophet can only gesture at is the how — the behavioral mechanics that turned a man with nothing into a prophet with total control over fifty people's lives, finances, and children.This is Part 1 of a three-part panel discussion with former FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke, psychotherapist and true crime consultant Shavaun Scott, and Tony Brueski. We go move by move through Bateman's playbook. The way he read the desperation of a community that had lost its prophet when Warren Jeffs went to prison. The way he used public confessions as leverage — once you've confessed, you've given someone ammunition, and leaving means that ammunition gets used. The way his narcissism made him invite cameras into his own criminal operation because he genuinely believed he was untouchable.We talk about the two police visits that went nowhere because parents lied. The loyalty that survived Bateman's arrest and allowed him to orchestrate a kidnapping from behind bars. And the question that sits underneath all of it — could someone like Bateman get to the people in your life, and would you see it happening before it was too late?Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #ShortCreek #FalseProphet #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #CultAbuse #TrustMeNetflix #RobinDreeke

Christine Marie, cult psychology expert, joins me to discuss Netflix's Trust Me: The False Prophet. This four-part docuseries follows Christine and her husband, videographer Tolga Katas, as they embed themselves in the FLDS community in Short Creek, a town straddling the Utah-Arizona border long associated with fundamentalist Mormonism. What begins as an effort to support a fractured community in the wake of leader Warren Jeffs' imprisonment turns into something far more dangerous. As they gain the trust of Samuel Bateman, a self-proclaimed prophet who rises to power after Jeffs, Christine and Tolga begin documenting his inner circle. Bateman, believing he is being filmed for a project that will amplify his message, allows unprecedented access. But behind the scenes, Christine and Tolga are gathering evidence of coercion, control, and the sexual abuse of women and underage girls. The series captures, in real time, the unraveling of Bateman's authority. A 2022 traffic stop leads to his arrest, followed by a federal investigation and raid that exposes the full scope of his crimes. He was later sentenced to 50 years in prison. Reality Life with Kate Casey What to Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecasey Twitter: https://twitter.com/katecasey Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseyca Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itskatecasey?lang=en Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245 Amazon List: https://www.amazon.com/shop/katecasey Like it to Know It: https://www.shopltk.com/explore/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Una experta en sectas y su marido cineasta se infiltran en una secta polígama. Allí descubren inquietantes pruebas sobre Samuel Bateman, que afirma ser el sucesor del profeta encarcelado Warren Jeffs.

The Gary & Shannon Show Hour 3 (04.14) – A fast-moving hour where every headline escalates.• Swalwell fallout intensifies → more accusers, resignation looming, and pressure building across both parties• In #WhatsHappening - Major headlines stack up → Bahamas case shifts, Disney layoffs, Amazon’s $12B move, and outrage over World Cup pricing• In #SWAMPWATCH → Iran talks stall, Hormuz tensions continue, and fallout from Trump’s viral post grows• A 5.7 earthquake rattles Nevada → felt across Northern California• #TrueCrimeTuesday dives into a disturbing cult story → a new “prophet” rises after Warren Jeffs, leading to manipulation, abuse, and a federal case - it's available on Netflix now called Trust Me: The False ProfitSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Samuel Bateman, a self-proclaimed prophet of a breakaway FLDS sect, was sentenced in December 2024 to fifty years in federal prison followed by lifetime supervised release after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit transportation of a minor for criminal sexual activity and conspiracy to commit kidnapping. According to federal prosecutors, the case involved more than twenty claimed wives, at least ten of whom were under eighteen, with the youngest reportedly nine years old. Eleven of his adult followers were convicted in connection with the child sexual abuse conspiracy — two by jury trial and nine by guilty plea — with sentences including life imprisonment for one co-defendant.The case is the subject of the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, which draws on footage captured by cult researcher Christine Marie and videographer Tolga Katas during their infiltration of Bateman's inner circle. The documentary reveals evidence including recorded conversations in which Bateman described abuse, and chronicles the federal investigation that led to his August 2022 arrest during a traffic stop in Flagstaff, Arizona. In November 2022, while in custody, Bateman orchestrated the kidnapping of minors from state foster placements — the children were recovered in Spokane, Washington.Robin Dreeke, retired chief of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, provides expert analysis of the behavioral control patterns at work in the case and the broader FLDS context, including the continued influence of imprisoned leader Warren Jeffs. All nine of Bateman's identified underage victims have since testified against him. A significant number of his adult followers reportedly remain loyal.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #TrustMeTheFalseProphet #Netflix #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #ShortCreek #CultLeader #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

Samuel Bateman positioned himself as the heir to imprisoned FLDS leader Warren Jeffs, building a breakaway sect of roughly fifty followers along the Arizona-Utah border. By the time he was arrested during an August 2022 traffic stop in Flagstaff, Arizona, he had claimed more than twenty wives — at least ten of them under eighteen according to federal prosecutors, with the youngest reportedly nine years old. He was sentenced in December 2024 to fifty years in federal prison after pleading guilty to conspiracy to transport minors for criminal sexual activity and conspiracy to commit kidnapping. Eleven of his adult followers were also convicted.The Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet chronicles how cult researcher Christine Marie and her husband, videographer Tolga Katas, infiltrated Bateman's inner circle and gathered evidence that became central to the federal investigation. The footage captures Bateman openly describing abuse, followers operating under total obedience, and a community where children were given as spiritual wives while the town of Short Creek watched in silence.Robin Dreeke, retired chief of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, analyzes the behavioral control mechanisms Bateman employed — isolation, religious authority, family separation, and enforced compliance — and examines why some of his adult followers remain loyal even after his conviction, while all nine of his identified underage victims have since testified against him.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #TrustMeTheFalseProphet #Netflix #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #ShortCreek #CultLeader #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

From a behavioral analysis perspective, the Samuel Bateman case presents a concentrated example of cult control mechanics operating at their most extreme — a man with no institutional backing, no financial resources, and no prior following who constructed a system of total psychological dominance within a few years. Robin Dreeke, retired chief of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, applies his expertise in behavioral influence and manipulation to examine how Bateman achieved the level of control documented in the Netflix series Trust Me: The False Prophet.Dreeke's analysis focuses on the specific mechanisms: how Bateman exploited the existing FLDS obedience structure left vulnerable after Warren Jeffs's imprisonment; how he used religious language to reframe child sexual abuse as spiritual duty; how he isolated families from outside information while using internal social reinforcement to prevent dissent; and how the control persisted even after his arrest — evidenced by the coordinated kidnapping of girls from foster care, orchestrated from a jail cell, carried out by followers who believed they were rescuing children.The documentary provides an unprecedented window into real-time manipulation captured on camera by Christine Marie and Tolga Katas, whose undercover footage became critical evidence for the FBI. Dreeke examines what that footage reveals about the difference between what outsiders observe and what is happening inside the minds of people under cult influence — and why, even after Bateman's fifty-year sentence, a significant number of his adult followers remain devoted.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #TrustMeTheFalseProphet #Netflix #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #ShortCreek #CultLeader #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

She said "I do"… and then found his cheating texts. Chelsea and Dr. Lindsay break down a real-life wedding that turned into a same-week divorce, have shiting your pants stories, and Chelsea has a personal connection the the FLDS and Warren Jeffs. Plus, parents sending a 3-page inheritance list, why red light therapy is a scam, smuggling mushroom capsules to Vegas, and Lindsay is being recruited for the FBI.Send us a textSupport the showLike, subscribe, and share with that one friend who needs a reason to laugh. Find us @honestlysmartlist on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.Connect with Honestly Smartlesshonestlysmartless.comIG: @honestlysmartlessTikTok: @honestlysmartlessChelsea's IG: @chelsea_turanoLindsay's TT: @dr.lindsayregehrYouTube:  Honestly Smartless

Samuel Bateman is serving fifty years. His follower Ladell Bistline Jr. got life after giving six of his underage daughters to Bateman and participating in their abuse. Torrance Bistline, the financial engine behind the operation, got thirty-five years. Seven of Bateman's adult wives were convicted. In total, all eleven co-defendants in this case have been held accountable — making it one of the most thorough federal prosecutions of cult-based child trafficking in recent history.But accountability and resolution are different things. This final episode examines what justice looks like when it can't undo the damage. The defense called Bateman "mentally ill" and "delusional," the product of an upbringing that normalized the criminal. The prosecution countered that Bateman and his followers built their own ideology to serve their own interests. The judge sentenced him to what amounts to a life sentence and called him the worst kind of abuser.Meanwhile, Faith Bistline — who escaped the FLDS and spent years fighting to expose Bateman — is now caring for the children her own brothers helped destroy. Parents of victimized girls attended court hearings to support Bateman, not their daughters. And the conditions that produced both Warren Jeffs and Samuel Bateman remain structurally intact in Short Creek, where thousands of FLDS members still live under the One Man Rule theology.The hopeful counterweight: the Short Creek Dream Center, built inside Jeffs' former compound, serves as a refuge for people leaving. Survivors are rebuilding. The rescued girls are in school, driving, reclaiming their lives. One of them stood in a courtroom and told Bateman she never needed him. That's the sound of someone breaking free from a system built to make escape impossible. The question is how many others are still waiting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #FaithBistline #FalseProphet #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #ShortCreek #CultJustice #ChildBrides #TrustMeNetflix

Amye is joined by Ashley to recap and review the 2026 Netflix docuseries, Trust Me: The False Prophet.A cult expert and her videographer husband embed themselves in a vulnerable FLDS community in Utah, where they discover disturbing evidence about Samuel Bateman, who claims to be the successor to imprisoned prophet Warren Jeffs.Get BONUS content and ad-free episodes! Sign up at:www.littlemissrecap.com/supportOr go directly to Patreon at:www.patreon.com/littlemissrecapListen to my true crime podcast: Murder She Watched at www.murdershewatchedpod.comSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSBIOptimizers Head to http://bioptimizers.com/littlemissrecap and use my exclusive code LMR to get 15% off any order. And when you subscribe, you'll get great discounts, free gifts, and the peace of mind of never running out. Again, that's 15% off any order at http://bioptimizers.com/littlemissrecap MERCH: https://littlemissrecap.threadless.com/I'm on cameo at: https://www.cameo.com/amyearcherGet in touch with us:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/littlemissrecapFacebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/littlemissrecapInstagram: @littlemissrecap Voicemail: www.littlemissrecap.comEmail: amye@littlemissrecap.comYoutube: www.youtube.com/@littlemissrecap Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With Netflix's new documentary on the modern fundamentalist Mormon church coming out today – we thought it was the perfect time to revisit our episode on Warren Jeffs's FLDS, to give some much-needed context... According to Warren Jeffs' thousands of followers, he was the leader of a secretive but devoted religion – their prophet, and the representative of God on Earth. But according to US law, he was a dangerous, totalitarian, child-molesting horror with over 80 wives – some married off as young as 12. Still, according to the church, Earthly laws are no match for the voice of God.In this episode, we explore the story behind the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints: how the visions of a charismatic, seventeen-year-old farmhand called Joseph Smith grew to become a major world religion; how plural marriage caused a major rift in the church; and how its teachings were warped into a systematic cult of child abuse, underage sex, and absolute power.--Patreon - Ad-free & Bonus EpisodesYouTube - Full-length Video EpisodesTikTok / InstagramSources and more available on redhandedpodcast.com

With Netflix's new documentary on the modern fundamentalist Mormon church coming out today – we thought it was the perfect time to revisit our episode on Warren Jeffs's FLDS, to give some much-needed context... Last week, we looked at the formation of the ultra-obedient, bigamist Mormon cult, the FLDS – in which plural marriage to pregnant preteen girls is just the tip of the fundamentalist iceberg. In this second part, we look at how its new prophet, Warren Jeffs, took his so-called religion to ever stricter and more terrifying depths. With followers so beaten down that they were banned from even laughing; the prophet on the lam, living it up at Disneyland; and a team of ex-faithfuls and dogged investigators closing in – something had to give. But not before the full extent of his evil was laid bare in front of a stunned courtroom.--Patreon - Ad-free & Bonus EpisodesYouTube - Full-length Video EpisodesTikTok / InstagramSources and more available on redhandedpodcast.com

The FLDS put Warren Jeffs in prison for life. Then the same community, the same theology, and the same obedience structure produced Samuel Bateman — and he did it all over again. More than twenty wives. Children as young as nine. Fathers volunteering their own daughters. An interstate operation spanning four states. And a fifty-year federal sentence that might still not be enough to break the cycle.Bateman's case is the most significant cult-based child trafficking prosecution in years, and it's back in the spotlight with Netflix's Trust Me: The False Prophet, which chronicles the couple who infiltrated his inner circle and helped bring him down. But the documentary tells only part of the story. This five-part series tells the rest — starting with the system that made Bateman possible.Short Creek, the twin communities of Colorado City, Arizona, and Hildale, Utah, has been the FLDS stronghold for nearly a century. Jeffs ran it as a closed state — cameras in homes, security patrols, no outside media, marriages assigned and dissolved at his sole discretion. When he went to prison, he tried to maintain control through coded letters and phone calls. His followers built wooden replicas of his cell to sit inside and share his suffering. But the community splintered, and Bateman recruited from the broken pieces — people conditioned from birth to follow a prophet, desperate for someone to fill the void.The question this episode asks isn't how Bateman became a prophet. It's what kind of place produces them generation after generation — and whether anything can stop it.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #ShortCreek #FalseProphet #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #CultAbuse #ChildBrides #TrustMeNetflix

Warren Jeffs got life. His community fractured. And within a few years, another man stepped into the same role, used the same theology, and destroyed another generation of girls. This is how the FLDS prophet factory works — and why locking up the man at the top has never been enough to stop the cycle.Samuel Bateman went from borrowing twenty dollars to commanding fifty followers and more than twenty wives in roughly three years. He drove Bentleys. He paraded his wives on flatbed trailers through town. He demanded fathers hand over their daughters as acts of divine obedience — and they did. Girls as young as nine were claimed as spiritual wives. The FBI says he coerced children into group sexual acts, live-streamed abuse, and gave victims to adult male followers.Before any of that, he tried to marry his own daughter. She was fourteen. He offered her Doritos and fifty dollars. She told her mother. They got a restraining order. And he kept going — because in the FLDS, a prophet's word overrides a court order in the minds of the people who follow him.This is Part 1 of a five-part Hidden Killers series that goes deeper than the Netflix documentary can. We trace the architecture — how Short Creek was built, how Jeffs weaponized it, how his imprisonment created the vacuum Bateman exploited, and why the theological framework that produced both men remains intact. If you've followed this show through the Duggar series, you already know how patriarchal religious systems weaponize faith against women and children. This case takes that pattern to its most extreme conclusion.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SamuelBateman #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #ShortCreek #FalseProphet #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #CultAbuse #ChildBrides #TrustMeNetflix