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This is an informal chat with performers and composers about their craft, about their lives and about music itself, with an emphasis on understanding and enjoying classical music and other genres that are not quite mainstream. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

Sergio Barer


    • May 30, 2024 LATEST EPISODE
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    A chat with Michael Kaulkin about his music

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2024 38:24


    Michael Kaulkin is a composer that lives in the San Francisco Bay area and whose music has been described as "exceptionally beautiful on all counts" . In here we take up his work "Cycle of Friends" for soprano, choir and chamber orchestra. If you want to know more about Michael, his website is: www.MichaelKaulkin.com. And my website is: www.SergioBarer.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Andrew Maxfield

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2024 48:08


    In this episode, we listen to 3 works by Andrew, the first one a choral work called Darkness Starts, then a work for strings called Nightsounds and we end with a work for piano and flute called Queen of the Night Tulip. We discuss some of the technical aspects of composing and yet, there is enough conversation happening in layman's terms that even if you don't understand the terminology, you will get something out of the episode. And one of the things that you will get for sure is getting to know the music of Andrew Maxfield, something that is definitely worth it. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    Jocelyn Hagen, a chat about her music and how she writes it.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2024 41:55


    Jocelyn Hagen is a well known composer in the choral world and she is a very interesting composer, as well. We explore with her a musical setting she made of Afghani poetry writtten by women. Both the poetry and the music are definitely worth listening to. Just to give you an idea of the material, one of the poems she used is called "Load Poems Like Guns". Listen and enjoy. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Michael Bussewitz-Quarm

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2024 40:04


    Michael Bussewitz-Quarm is an award winning composer who has a very unique style: It is modern, and yet, accesible. It is beautiful, yet fresh. I asked her to come to the podcast because our paths crossed at different choral conferences but when I heard her music, it really hit me in a very special way. I hope that getting to know her and her music is as powerful for you as it was for me. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    In Those Years, No One Slept, a chat with Rich Campbell

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2023 24:46


    In this episode, I talk with Rich about his choral composition, In Those Years, No One Slept and we talk about his composition style, his process and his ideas about composing in general. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    Del Tingo al Tianguis, a new work by Bernardo Feldman

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2023 22:56


    Bernardo Feldman is my first guest of the fourth season of my podcast. The podcast, starting in this, its 4th season, is going to consist of shorter episodes that focus on one piece of music and on the composers views of that piece, in particular, and their music, in general. Bernardo brings a new piece that will be premiered September 23d at Saint Andrews Church in Pasadena. We listen to 3 minutes of the work and talk briefly about it. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Brett Abigana about his music.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2023 37:22


    Brett Abigania is a very interesting composer that I met at the Midwest Conference in Chicago in December 2022. He showed me a fugue he had done with a 12 tone row (a la Schoenberg). I was fascinated and I asked him to send me a couple of works that he would like to talk about. He sent me a movement of his first symphony called Degeneration and another work called Locrian Riffs. It has a jazzy vibe but uses one of the Medieval church modes which entail some difficulties, which is something Brett never shies away from. I hope you enjoy it. This is the sixth and last episode of Season 3 and I added a musical introduction that comes from my trio for flute, oboe and clarinet. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Sergio Barer about The Pioneers, hosted by Bernardo Feldman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2023 54:04


    My oratorio The Nightmare and the Dream was premiered in Los Angeles on May 21st, 2023. This podcast was recorded 2 weeks prior to that. I asked my friend, composer Bernardo Feldman, whom I have interviewed twice for my podcast, to change roles with me and ask the questions about this work prior to its premiere. However, due to production emergencies and last minute changes, I was not able to publish this podcast until now. But no worries, we will be streaming the premiere next month in a program hosted by myself and my friend, composer and pianist Robert Remstein, and this podcast will serve as a prelude to the restreaming of the work. For this podcast, I used a version of The Pioneers, the last movement of the oratorio, that was recorded by four singers, each one separately, with music samples serving as the wind ensemble accompaniment. In the podcast, Bernardo and I discuss the political, historical and social implications of the work, as well as the musical elements involved in its composition and the texts that were used. Stay tuned for the announcement of the restreaming of the premiere. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Steve Rothstein about his Symphony Judaica.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2023 45:09


    Steve Rothstein is a composer based in L.A. that wrote Days of Awe, Symphony Judaica. It is a one hour work, in four movements, that is based on different melodies that are used in services during the Jewish High Holidays. I found the work both beautiful and interesting. It is written in a late Romantic style and Steve and I talked about composing the work, about the contents of the work, the travails of composing it and we listened to sections of the third and fourt movements. Here are the links for the full work in Youtube in case you want to listen to it. In the videos, as you hear the work you see some quotes of the lithurgy related to the music that is being used. Symphony Judaica, Days of Awe: First Movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7mlmJr02yc Second Movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6y05ocXWU4 Third Movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj2ztxBICt8 Fourth Movement : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ke_E31erE Steve Rothstein web site is: https://steverothsteinmusic.com/ Come spend some time with us and get to know some new music! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with choral conductor Mark Shapiro about programming music for concert and about contemporary music

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2022 54:30


    In this episode, I talk with Mark about what criteria he uses to program choral music. We also chat about going outside the harmonic structures of the Common Practice Period, the XVIIII and XIX centuries, and how a convincing music can be achieved by other means. We also talk about consonance and dissonance in contemporary music and we listen to an exceprt from Stuart Greenbaum's "Brought to Light" and from Donald Grantham "La Canción Desesperada" on a poem by Pablo Neruda, as performed under Mark Shapiro's baton by Cantori New York. It is one of our longer episodes because, well, there was a lot to talk about. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Rex Isenberg about his choral work "Messiahs, False and True".

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2022 43:14


    In this episode we talk about an intensely interesting work that utilizes new settings of some of the Biblical texts used in Handel's Messiah and is supplemented by a narrator reading speeches given by American leaders, giving us a current perspective on those texts. I found the work fascinating and enlightening and I think, if you listen to our podcast, you will be very motivated to go and listen to the whole work, which is available in YouTube, in several versions. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A Chat with Paul Leavitt about composing and about his Requiem.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2022 50:39


    This is a very interesting episode because Paul and I share a background of having arrived at composing after being pianists. I think his music is gorgeous, the Requiem is for choir, orchestra and organ and it is original, yet accesible. I usually don't include as much music as I did in this episode but I found the music hard to cut, so we have about 15 minutes of music and 35 of dialogue. Hang out with us as we trade some stories and we have a good time together talking about...music. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Zanaida Robles about composing and about her music

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 33:43


    Zanaida Robles is a composer, conductor and singer that lives in Los Angeles. She brings us choral music that is intuitive and beautiful. Take a listen. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Dale Trumbore about her music and her life as a composer.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2022 41:18


    In this episode we listened to 2 of Dale Trumbore's works, I See It, from How to Go On, a secular requiem and Between Water and Air, a song that describes surfing in California. We talked about her music and had a candid chat about what it is like to be a composer and different aspects of the profession. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Paul Gibson about his music.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2022 45:23


    In this episode we listen to and discuss three works of Paul Gibson: Ritual Dances, a trio for harp, viola and flute, Donna Nobis Pacem/Grant Us Peace, a work for children's chorus and Salve Regina, a work for mixed chorus. The music of Paul strikes me as very ethereal and beautiful and even though it is accesible and easy on the ear from the first chord, you can tell that is not XIX century music, but rather, music of our times. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Jason Barabba

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2022 45:33


    Jason Barabba is a contemporary music composer. In this episode we talk about composing using a 12 tone row and we listen to the beginning of the choral work We The People as well as to the beginning of his Aunt Jemima opera. Here are the links if you want both works, complete: The Aunt Jemima Opera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw4cx8tTPaA We The People: https://youtu.be/r4ZCcmtah6U. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    The Web Opera, a chat with its composer, Michael Roth

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2021 58:55


    The Web Opera is a fascinating project created by Michael Rothe which focuses on an very unfortunate incident of cyberbullying that happened in Ruthgers in 2010. Due to its internet nature the visual element of this opera, which has been selected for 32 film festivales, could not be more appropriate. The whole work could not be more relevant to our times and this podcast attempts to get you through the third episode of the work with only the musical element present, which is quite a challenge. You can actually go and hear the first 3 episodes at thewebopera.com (around 40 minutes). Episodes 4 and 5 will come along in the next couple of years, completing the work. Join us in listening to and discussing social media in action. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Bryan Pezzone about improvisation and the piano.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2021 53:02


    In this episode (which has a couple of small audio malfunctions) I talked with Bryan Pezzone about improvisation at the piano, which he demostrated to me by doing a freat improvisation of Imagine by John Lennon and then an improvisation on an original classical theme of his own manufacture. Bryan has great insights about improvising and about practicing and performing at the piano, which he as been doing for many years. with great success. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Bernardo Feldman about his music and composing in general

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2021 54:52


    Bernardo brought to me 3 pieces, one is a contemporary work for horn and recorded tape called Cast Iron, the second one is a cool jazzy song called "How Is It That...? and the third one is a choral work called "Like A Flower". The three of them are quite different one from the next and we talked about each one of them, the circumstances around their composition and the composing ideas that are reflected in them. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A conversation with composer Steve Danielson

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2021 35:58


    Steve Danielson is a conductor, artistic director and composer who lives in Seattle. He conducts the Ensign Symphony and Chorus. Come and enjoy the conversation and the music. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A conversation with composer Amy Gordon

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2021 37:15


    Amy Gordon is a composer that lives in Los Angeles. Join us to hear Amy's choral music, from the cheerful Alleluia to the COVID related In Times of Hibernation. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with the composer Joshua Fishbein.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2021 51:48


    In this episode, Joshua and I chat about his music and we listen to some his choral compositions. Stay tuned and you will hear some beautiful works. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A conversation with composer Carol Barnett about her music.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2021 38:43


    Carol Barnett's music is accesible and contemporary at the same time. The essence of her modernity is not the use of harsh, dissonant chords but the weaving of chords we are familiar with in unfamiliar patterns that make the music at the same time fresh and agreeable to the ear. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Forrest Pierce about his music, sacred and ethereal choral music.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2021 38:05


    Forrest Pierce's music is ethereal and explores sacred and trascendental topics. He draws inspiration from Christianity sacred texts as well as from texts of other traditions and he has a way of setting these texts that can transport you somewhere else, which is always a very nice sensation. We talked about his writing and about music in general, exchanging frank opinions about the use of different musical languages in our works. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Katerina Gimon about her music and aleatory (improvised) music.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2021 43:35


    In this conversation we cover a chamber music work of Katerina which is wholly aleatory and 2 choral pieces which have aleatory elements. I found fascinating the structuring of a whole piece of instrumental chamber music, Rain on a Tin Roof, on 22 small segments of music, each containing from 2 notes to 10 notes, called "cells" which the instruments repeated, or not, as they advanced from cell 1 to cell 22 and back. And then we talk about the use of syllables in choral music which have no meaning, in the work Fire, and yet which add to the effect of the work. Spend some time with us and enjoy the music! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Sarah Rimkus about aleatory music and her music in general

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2021 47:27


    Aleatory means, basically, improvised. It is a type of music where you write some musical guidelines for the performers to follow but you don't write every note, every beat of the music. It gives us different possibilities for the same music, to a degree. All three pieces have elements that are not fully notated, but the first one is the one that is 97% aleatory. There is also an element of social justice in her music as the work Uprooted takes us to the interment of American citizens of Japanese descent in camps during World War II. And of sacred music, as the third piece we hear is based on the Mater Dei. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A dive with David Dies into his contemporary classical music

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2021 42:35


    In this episode we listen to an oboe concerto, a work for two sopranos and a piano solo piece and we get to experience life through David Dies musical language, which borders in the atonal and gives us a challenge, but with great rewards if we accept it. I find that with commercial music, for example, you can wait for the music to come to you and move you or not, but it doesn't require great participation. Contemporary classical music, on the other hand, requires for you to actively strip yourself of preconceptions and dive into the unknown with the hope to experience something new. I found that David's music did give me a new experience and communicated very well what it was trying to convey. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Jordan Nelson on reinterpreting the standards

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2021 33:35


    Join Jordan and me in a chat about his projects of writing new music based on the standards of the American Songbook. Listen to Jordan's take on Oh, What a Beautiful Morning, Tea for Two and Begin the Beguine, as interpreted at the piano by pianist Tom Kotcheff of the piano duo Hocket. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Gregory Brown about his music

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2021 49:34


    Gregory composes choral music and has his own style. The texts he used are very interesting and you will learn something about contemporary choral music if you listen to this conversation. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Kile Smith

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2021 48:45


    I met Kile Smith through his choral music. He was nominated for a 2020 Grammy for his work The Arc in the Sky, of which we will hear the first movement. Kile writes music in his own singular style and I think you will find enlightening to listen to his music preceded by own commentary about it. As with all my podcasts, feel free to join us for all of it or for only part of it. These podcast do not try to make a point or explain a concept but they are a vehicle to leisurely listen to music and enjoy it while talking about it. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Robert Sheldon

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2021 43:45


    Robert Sheldon is a very well known symphonic band music composer in the U.S. We listened to two works of his and we talked about how he works and how he arrived at his compositions. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

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    A chat with composer Eduardo Alonso Crespo

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2021 40:35


    Eduardo Alonso Crespo is a neo-classical composer from Argentina and he shares with us some of his works on the ocassion of Ellie Weingarten's release of a recording of Crespo's double concerto for oboe and clarinet. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer David Lefkowitz

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2021 42:45


    Professor David Lefkowitz teaches composition and music theory at UCLA. We collaborated on a project called "David", which is an oratorio about the life of the biblical King David. We both form part of the Hefner composer group, which did the work and I wanted to share his story and some of his music with you. His music is contemporary classical, which entails an interesting use of dissonance while being melodical too. Kind of a modern post-modern. We took one piece and we stopped it at 2 spots to break down what was happening. It's the first time I do that and I think it worked. I hope you enjoy the podcast. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Shawn Kirchner about arranging, composing and songwriting.

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2020 48:52


    Shawn is well known as a choral composer, arranger and also as a songwriter. We talked with him about his different hats and his approach on music. This is the last episode of Season 1, which was the initial season. We will continue in 2021 with season 2. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    Episode 9 - A chat with composer Kurt Knecht about composing in general and about his music.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2020 50:47


    In this episode we talk about composing music and we listen to 3 different works by Kurt Knecht: an organ work, a choral work and a chamber piece for piano and cello. Kurt has a very definite and distinctive style of writing and we chat about composing classical music at this time, we share experiences and we also share a few laughs. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A talk with Alex Shapiro about electroacoustic music

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2020 40:31


    Alex Shapiro is a composer that, these days, writes primarily electroacoustic music for band but that has composed in many styles and genres, from film music to TV music to chamber music to symphonic band music. We talk about her carreer and about combining musicians performing live with a prepared track. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A conversation with Robyn Lana about music programming for a youth choir and about runnning a choir in COVID times.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2020 34:23


    Robyn Lana is the founder and artistic director of the Cincinnati Youth Choir, which in a normal year has 900-1000 singers. I talked with her about running a youth choir during this pandemic and also about programming music for youth and children's choir in general. The podcast ends with a beautiful rendition by the Cincinnati Youth choir of the work We Will do Miracles by Dominic DiOrio, composed for them. (The music comes in after we say our good byes. ) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A conversation about Middle Eastern Music with Professor Mark Kligman

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2020 47:46


    In this podcast I talk with Proffesor Mark Kligman. director of the Department of Ethnomusicology at UCLA, about Middle Eastern Music, particularly about the use of two extra tones that do not figure in Western music scales, one which would be between E and Eb and another that would be between B and Bb and how the use of those 2 tones gives Middle Eastern music its unique character. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A conversation with composer Gernot Wolfgang about his music and his use of Jazz elements in it.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2020 45:00


    Composer Gernot Wolfgang was nominated for a Grammy award in 2016 for his CD Passing Through. He lives in L.A., writes chamber music and his music uniquely mixes classical and jazz elements, making it original, interesting and accesible. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A conversation about Theatre Music with composer Adam Wernick

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2020 47:43


    In this episode composer Adam Wernick talks with composer Sergio Barer about writing music for the theatre, its peculiarities, its difficulties and its triumphs. We hear several segments of Adam's music- which has been performed in or by The Guthrie Theater, The Shakespeare Theatre Company, The Kennedy Center,  Classic Stage Company, Manhattan Theatre Club, Denver Center Theatre Company, Red Bull Theater, The Wilma Theater, Old Globe Theatre and The Royal Shakespeare Company- and the stories associated with them. It was a lighthearted and fun conversation. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with composer Frank J. Oteri about microtonality and his music

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2020 60:57


    In this podcast I chat with Frank about two pieces of his and about the use of microtones (smaller subdivisions of the scale than half tones) in his music, with digressions into how the tuning system of Western music evolved and his personal use of musical concepts of the XX century like serialism and minimalism. (Serialism - a compositional technique in which a fixed series of notes, especially the twelve notes of the chromatic scale, are used to generate the harmonic and melodic basis of a piece and are subject to change only in specific ways.) ( (Minimalism - a reductive style or school of modern music utilizing only simple sonorities, rhythms, and patterns, with minimal embellishment or orchestrational complexity, and characterized by protracted repetition of figurations, obsessive structural rigor, and often a pulsing, hypnotic effect.) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    What is Contemporary Classical Music? A chat with Bernardo Feldman

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2020 53:57


    In this episode we talk about what is Contemporary Classical Music, how to listen to it and how to approach it and we also talk about Bernardo Feldman's music in particular and use it to illustrate our points about the Classical Music that is being composed today. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

    A chat with Brian Pezzone

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2020 49:14


    In our inaugural episode , Brian tells us about his musical carreer and about composing, playing and improvising in today's COVID world. By the way, the intropductory music and the end music are taken from an improvisation made by Brian. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sergio-barer/support

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    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2020 60:35


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