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Welcome to Rabbit Hole Sessions! Join Tyler on Demand, Emilio Guido, and Jamez Valdez every week for a session of perspective and hilarity as they talk about a variety of topics that often goes down the rabbit hole.

Tyler on Demand, Emilio Guido, James Valdez


    • Dec 21, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
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    Ep. 69: Rabbit Hole Faithful

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2021 60:41


    Tyler and James are back for a final session to discuss the show ending. They return to the mic for some closure talking about why the show suddenly dropped off and the changes in their lives. They discuss a shift in priorities, what the show has meant to them, their new projects since being away, and the future. Thank you rabbit hole faithful. Boing.Listen to Thoughts Out Of Context by Tyler on Demandhttps://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/tylerondemand/thoughts-out-of-contextWatch ETA Live In Studio Concerthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXAA3006DNw

    Ep. 68: Top Män Ting ft. ETA (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2021 30:43


    Tyler and James are joined by fellow ETA members emiltheproducer and Alexandre Henri for this session! Whenever ETA is together they'll be talking music, including their new single “sundress szn”. They also talk about being on Bandcamp, year-in reflections on coming together as a group, how they've improved, and their next moves. Outside of music (kind of) they discuss T-Pain's recent rant, sauce vs. condiments, and of course it wouldn't be an ETA convo without some Drake talk. All that and more!Keep up with ETA moves through the landing page link below:https://shor.by/etamusicentertainmentAnd follow on Instagram @3tamusic for announcements!https://www.instagram.com/3tamusic/

    Ep. 68: Top Män Ting ft. ETA (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2021 41:34


    Tyler and James are joined by fellow ETA members emiltheproducer and Alexandre Henri for this session! Whenever ETA is together they'll be talking music, including their new single “sundress szn”. They also talk about being on Bandcamp, year-in reflections on coming together as a group, how they've improved, and their next moves. Outside of music (kind of) they discuss T-Pain's recent rant, sauce vs. condiments, and of course it wouldn't be an ETA convo without some Drake talk. All that and more!Keep up with ETA moves through the landing page link below:https://shor.by/etamusicentertainmentAnd follow on Instagram @3tamusic for announcements!https://www.instagram.com/3tamusic/

    Ep. 67: Central Heat ft. Rory JLW (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2021 28:10


    Tyler and James are joined this session by return guest Rory JLW to talk Tyler and Rory's upcoming EP “Central Heat”. They discuss the EP's creation, wide array of influences, religious themes in music, Asperitas photography, Rory's involvement with Dorchester Art Project & Boston Compass Newspaper, truest lane of expression, Huey P. Newton gun club & gun ownership, central tenants of humanity, and much more!Central Heat EP pre-save link below!https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/tylerondemandroryjlw/central-heatCheck out Rory @asperitas_photography on Instagram

    Ep. 67: Central Heat ft. Rory JLW (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2021 58:48


    Tyler and James are joined this session by return guest Rory JLW to talk Tyler and Rory's upcoming EP “Central Heat”. They discuss the EP's creation, wide array of influences, religious themes in music, Asperitas photography, Rory's involvement with Dorchester Art Project & Boston Compass Newspaper, truest lane of expression, Huey P. Newton gun club & gun ownership, central tenants of humanity, and much more!Central Heat EP pre-save link below!https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/tylerondemandroryjlw/central-heatCheck out Rory @asperitas_photography on Instagram

    Ep. 66: The Richi & Rabbit Connection (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2021 29:33


    Tyler and James are joined this session by Gabriel Richi of The Richi & Meko Connection podcast. They sit down to discuss starting his podcast and his creative ventures, changes in media, Fast & Furious 9 and Avengers Endgame, NBA analysts admitting when they're wrong, being taken out of context, anime storytelling, One Piece, a rapid fire questions segment, and more!Listen to The Richi & Rabbit Connection on Apple Podcastshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-richi-meko-connection/id1568978262Follow on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/the_richi_and_meko_connection/

    Ep. 66: The Richi & Rabbit Connection ft. Gabriel Richi (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2021 57:31


    Tyler and James are joined this session by Gabriel Richi of The Richi & Meko Connection podcast. They sit down to discuss starting his podcast and his creative ventures, changes in media, Fast & Furious 9 and Avengers Endgame, NBA analysts admitting when they're wrong, being taken out of context, anime storytelling, One Piece, a rapid fire questions segment, and more!Listen to The Richi & Rabbit Connection on Apple Podcastshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-richi-meko-connection/id1568978262Follow on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/the_richi_and_meko_connection/

    Ep. 65: I'm Deflated After That

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2021 49:50


    James and Tyler are back for another session. They open this one up with a brief fashion analysis & agriculture segment. That leads into discussing both of them entering higher stakes creative spaces & their feelings on it so far. From there they talk weed cuisine at KFC, legalizing all drugs, Invincible being the best superhero show, the Ben Simmons hate and NBA narratives, recent psychedelic experiences, and that's it!Pre-save ETA's single “sundress szn” with the link below!https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/etatylerondemandalexandrehenri/sundress-szn

    Ep. 64: Microcosmos

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2021 78:38


    Tyler and James are back in session. They discuss some big ideas around the human condition, including performing in your worst conditions, what do you believe in, accessing reality, language as a device, and onomatopoeia as an objective category. After the break they come back to talk Nikola Jokić winning MVP, Tyler's wonky sleeping style, Trump being back in the headlines, Fauci exposed, new drug that treats Alzheimer's, and much more!Follow ETA's new page on instagram @3tamusichttps://www.instagram.com/3tamusic/?hl=en

    Ep. 63: Southern Comfortable

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2021 57:56


    Tyler and James are back in session! They kick it this session about Tyler's Nashville experience, James being back in Dallas, being fat, Texas open carry law, gun vs. sword culture, NBA playoffs, and more!

    Ep. 62: After Hours

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2021 47:38


    Tyler and James kick it for a lowkey session this time. They discuss sleepy pods & dreams, energy & death, Tyler’s MLS experience, J. Cole’s new album & basketball career, NBA play-in games, and more!

    Ep. 61: I Hope This Shit Works Out ft. Laura Acero (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2021 40:52


    Laura Acero returns to the pod for this session! They discuss the work she’s been doing, including her and Tyler’s unreleased documentary, reviving RamCam Productions, and producing her two short films. They also talk about media after the pandemic, going on life support, insights & qualities of leadership, YouTube’s new Shorts feature, and more!Check out Laura’s work on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLROuri9WxiLZb4SkHHAvAwFollow her on instagram @lauraacerofilms

    Ep. 61: I Hope This Shit Works Out ft. Laura Acero (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2021 59:52


    Laura Acero returns to the pod for this session! They discuss the work she’s been doing, including her and Tyler’s unreleased documentary, reviving RamCam Productions, and producing her two short films. They also talk about media after the pandemic, going on life support, insights & qualities of leadership, YouTube’s new Shorts feature, and more!Check out Laura’s work on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLROuri9WxiLZb4SkHHAvAwFollow her on instagram @lauraacerofilms

    Ep. 60: Societal Shenanigans

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2021 80:33


    Tyler and James kick it for a philosophical session about James graduating university, Elon Musk on SNL, relationship with nature, teleological centers, the power of “I don’t know”, and much more! Watch the official music video for I Do from SMS by ETA!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8on2QY-9I8

    Ep. 59: The Eventual Will Eventually Come ft. Ladarius Wilkerson (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2021 87:44


    In part 2 of this session James and Tyler are joined by Ladarius Wilkerson of the Growing with LD podcast. They hit a wide array of topics including ups & downs of developing a podcast, revisiting Dogecoin & investing for yourself, how podcasting has affected LD’s life, consolidated power in society, effective communication, psychedelic experiences & ego death, and much more!@ladariuswilkerson214Listen and subscribe to Growing with LD podcast on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/growing-with-ld/id1553716805Music by JakeTheBirdy. Follow @jakethebirdy and subscribe to “JakeTheBirdy” on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4MKnr9hULB7URRgmqIV7zg

    Ep. 59: The Eventual Will Eventually Come ft. Ladarius Wilkerson (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2021 87:44


    In part 2 of this session James and Tyler are joined by Ladarius Wilkerson of the Growing with LD podcast. They hit a wide array of topics including ups & downs of developing a podcast, revisiting Dogecoin & investing for yourself, how podcasting has affected LD’s life, consolidated power in society, effective communication, psychedelic experiences & ego death, and much more!@ladariuswilkerson214Listen to Growing with LD podcast on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/growing-with-ld/id1553716805Music by JakeTheBirdy. Follow @jakethebirdy and subscribe to “JakeTheBirdy” on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4MKnr9hULB7URRgmqIV7zg

    Ep. 59: The Eventual Will Eventually Come ft. Ladarius Wilkerson (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2021 87:44


    In part 2 of this session James and Tyler are joined by Ladarius Wilkerson of the Growing with LD podcast. They hit a wide array of topics including ups & downs of developing a podcast, revisiting Dogecoin & investing for yourself, how podcasting has affected LD’s life, consolidated power in society, effective communication, psychedelic experiences & ego death, and much more!@ladariuswilkerson214Listen to Growing with LD podcast on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/growing-with-ld/id1553716805Music by JakeTheBirdy. Follow @jakethebirdy and subscribe to “JakeTheBirdy” on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4MKnr9hULB7URRgmqIV7zg

    Ep. 59: Elon Musk Over Ben Franklin (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2021 68:47


    In part 1 of this session James and Tyler talk their Mt. Rushmore of inspiration, living in the space age & the excitement of it, Elon Musk hosting SNL, Ben Franklin being a fraud, Derek Chauvin trial results & implications, and more!Listen to Sunflare EP by Tyler on Demand and Alexandre Henri!https://music.apple.com/us/album/sunflare-single/1562078727

    Ep. 58: Young, Dumb & Figuring It Out (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2021 60:10


    In part 2 of this session Tyler & James talk Luka Dončić’s one-footed falling game winner, Johnson & Johnson vaccine recall and vaccination mandates, Kid Cudi’s dress & rate other men’s dresses, the recent string of gun violence in America, and much more.Listen to Tyler on Demand & Alexandre Henri’s new EP Sunflare on all platforms. Find it on Spotify with the link below:https://open.spotify.com/album/3BE3IR8yWT3cn2BQhWET6M?si=_paAPKFtT8-YZJRhgIDRAw

    Ep. 58: Young, Dumb & Figuring It Out (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2021 69:03


    In part 1 of this session Tyler & James discuss manners being a class divider, getting phishing emails, Dogecoin, keeping your creative spark alive with a 9 to 5 job, and much more!Listen to Tyler on Demand & Alexandre Henri’s new EP Sunflare on all platforms. Find it on Spotify with the link below:https://open.spotify.com/album/3BE3IR8yWT3cn2BQhWET6M?si=_paAPKFtT8-YZJRhgIDRAw

    Ep. 57: Seamless ft. Aseem Garnault-Kumar (Part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2021 49:42


    Tyler and James are joined by return guest Aseem Garnault-Kumar for a great session. They talk about China’s history and the Belt & Road Initiative, ethnicity & race around the world, urban planning, cartography & GIS, clickbait & data, and much more!Listen to “Ride Out feat. Jimmy McMoney & Tyler on Demand” by Billy_B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTIc1R6ZzZ0

    Ep. 57: Seamless ft. Aseem Garnault-Kumar (Part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2021 58:52


    Tyler and James are joined by return guest Aseem Garnault-Kumar for a great session. They talk about China’s history and the Belt & Road Initiative, ethnicity & race around the world, urban planning, cartography & GIS, clickbait & data, and much more!Listen to “Ride Out feat. Jimmy McMoney & Tyler on Demand” by Billy_B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTIc1R6ZzZ0

    Ep. 56: Conspiracy Land

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2021 68:57


    Tyler and James hit this session for a variety of topics. They start with Delta-8 THC & benefits of CBD, sparking conspiracy theories about marijuana legalization and military marketing (00:01:00). From there they transition into discussing futuristic civilizations on distant planets or in Earth’s history (00:09:00). They take a serious turn to speak on the Atlanta spa & massage parlor murders (00:19:00). This leads into discussions of anti-Asian sentiment, realities of grouping people together, and potential negatives to spreading social media awareness (00:30:19). Tyler has questions about the firing of Alexi McCammond by Teen Vogue over old tweets & the intentions behind it (00:36:00), and James brings in the newest Charlie Hebdo cartoon controversy (00:40:30). After the break they close off with a discussion of having a malleable opinion & when they’ve changed their mind on something (00:52:00). Click the link below to learn about and donate towards Asian-American support. https://www.advancingjustice-atlanta.org/

    Ep. 55: Rabbits Learn Things

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2021 37:34


    Recorded March 11th. Tyler and James kick it this session about James working on a new project, NFTs & the effect it’ll have on art, they try (and fail) to learn about the Paris Agreement & origin of playing cards, NBA All-Star Day, and more!

    Ep. 54: Season Two!

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2021 47:18


    Tyler and James return for season 2 of sessions! They talk Tyler moving to DC & his insights so far, Governor Cuomo’s recent allegations & precedents being set, Anna May music video, Noname’s Telefone mixtape taken off Spotify, and more!

    Ep. 53: Thick Blood

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2021 67:44


    Tyler and James are back in person this session! They kick it about new SMS episodes, James & his new hair experience, Tyler & his root canal experience, the Inauguration, Biden’s executive orders, and more!

    Ep. 52: Capitolists

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2021 62:07


    Recorded January 10th. Tyler and James are in session this episode to discuss the storming of the Capitol, Trump banned from Twitter, going to space, 2020 reflection & 2021 outlooks, and more!

    Ep. 51: Whole Lotta Trash

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2020 72:30


    Tyler and James kick it post-Christmas for this session. They start by recapping their holidays and the NBA Christmas games. Afterwards they get into Playboi Carti’s album Whole Lotta Red that leads into discussions of Tyler being a biased old head, distinction between rap & hip hop and needing to expand the terms for the genres. They then talk about the new round of COVID-19 relief and Trump’s comments surrounding it, Tyler gives an update on One Piece chapter 1000 (spoiler free), and more!

    Ep. 50: Anna May Episode ft. Alexandre Henri

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2020 65:26


    This session Tyler & James talk the COVID-19 vaccine as well as the politics surrounding aid and relief packages. They come back joined by Alexandre Henri to talk the wrap of the SMS film, highlights & lowlights, timeline until it’s release, and more!Check out ETA’s feature with Buzz Music LA!https://www.buzz-music.com/post/make-sure-your-lines-are-cleared-sms-from-eta-hits-ambient-waves

    Ep. 49: Anime Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2020 71:26


    Back for another session! This week Tyler and James start with the first corona school year coming to an end and ESPN’s top 100 NBA players. The bulk of this episode they talk about anime & manga (James has been waiting for this one!). They get into Attack on Titan, One Piece approaching 1000 chapters, benefits of taking in content from other cultures, use of violence and gore in film & TV, and more!

    Ep. 48: Mixy Business

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 70:17


    Tyler and James kick it this week for another session. They begin by opening up about breaking bad habits and the positives & negatives of setting expectations. They then get into discussing the controversy surrounding rapper Mulatto’s stage name, with Tyler offering his experience on realities for mixed people. They come back from break for NBA talk, touching on Russell Westbrook to the Wizards and all 3 of the Ball brothers being in the league, before pivoting into discussing the power we have in our hands as an audience.

    Ep. 47: Never Turkey

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2020


    Tyler and James are back for another session on Black Friday! They start by addressing Emilio leaving the show and thanking him for his contributions. They then get to discussing Black Friday, why turkey is garbage, as well as explaining Thanksgiving was an actual celebration day in history and making a distinction from what came afterwards. In the second half they talk Tyler’s group album SMS being released, where SIMPS MAKE SLAPS comes from, open mindedness when creating, the SMS film, and call-in reactions from Alexandre Henri and emiltheproducer! Listen to SMS on all platforms!!https://music.apple.com/us/album/sms/1540295988https://open.spotify.com/album/4u0KBgZ80wNd816mbZC996?si=sbFeKbuGSIetij1vhN8Ntw

    Ep. 46: Freedom Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2020 76:50


    Tyler, Emilio, and James couldn’t meet in person but are still back for another session! They start off by discussing Tyler’s upcoming group album SMS and the film they’re shooting around it, which leads to talking about reshooting famous scenes/artists that only cover other songs, how roles have developed through production, how to get better as a director, and other insights. They come back from break for a spirited talk about the NBA offseason moves and recount some sports stories from their past. SMS drops November 27th!

    Ep. 45: Between Takes ft. Jakob Martinez Cooper

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2020 63:48


    Jakob Martinez Cooper stars as Max in Emilio’s upcoming feature film When Max Met Loralie. He joins this session to discuss the film’s production process, methods of acting and becoming the role, creating context for a character, chemistry on set, and more!

    Ep. 44: 1982 Meets Wakanda

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2020 77:21


    The crew sits down this sessions to talk their reactions to Joe Biden being named President-Elect. There’s a lot to dissect and discuss so dive in! (We know he meant 1984)Recorded November 4th.

    Ep. 43: Starts With Self ft. Navin Mani (part 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2020 50:39


    Navin Mani returns to kick it with Tyler and James this session on a wide variety of topics. They talk capitalism, artificial intelligence, voting for Kanye West, fasting, media bias, self-actualizing through writing, and much more!

    Ep. 43: Starts With Self ft. Navin Mani (part 1)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2020 47:27


    Navin Mani returns to kick it with Tyler and James this session, where the three discuss a wide variety of topics. They talk capitalism, artificial intelligence, voting for Kanye West, fasting, media bias, self-actualizing through writing, and much more!

    Ep. 42: Behind the Seens

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2020 46:04


    Another session! James and Emilio discuss behind the scenes aspects to editing their recent work, Tyler gives some of his thoughts on Kanye West’s appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience.

    Second Presidential Debate Discussion

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2020 33:05


    Tyler and Emilio sit down to talk about the second presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. They discuss how they think the candidates fared, the difference in format & strategy from the first debate, what it meant for them, and more!

    Ep. 41: Say Something Constructive

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2020 37:15


    The crew is back for a short and sweet session this week. They discuss the #EndSARS situation in Nigeria, social media awareness, sacrificing creative ego, Bobby Ray music video, and more!

    Ep. 39: Remember Lincoln

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2020 41:43


    Emilio and Tyler kick it this session to talk the president having corona, healthy levels of skepticism, the VP debate, why this podcast exists, greatness stemming from insecurity, and more!

    Ep. 38: Get Even or Get Over?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2020 55:50


    Tyler and James return to the online editions for this session. They start with Lakers vs. Heat, the significance of these playoffs, and the Doc Rivers firing. After a break they come back to deep dive on the presidential debate where they discuss the format, the candidates, media framing, and more.

    Ep. 37: We're In Delaware

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2020 71:45


    Tyler and James are joined by guests Alexandre Henri, Kaze, and emiltheproducer for a big session. They get to discussing a lot this episode including Russell Westbrook vs. Damien Lillard, Russ vs. Ski Mask the Slump God, artists using their platform, advertisement influence, Jay-Z & Beyonce conspiracies, and much more!Alex: @yeahsurefineokKaze: @jungleyusEmil: @emiltheproducer

    Ep. 36: Round 2 ft. Dreamer

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2020 82:45


    T.O.D x Dreamer round 2! Four sections to this episode:1: Managing expectations, Dreamer’s next music plans, and sacrifice.2: Down the rabbit hole on city states, secret societies, and numbers.3: Presenting value, podcasting & education.4: The universe & god, aliens, simulations, and more!

    Ep. 35: In The City

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2020 74:48


    Tyler and Emilio chop it up outside for this week’s session. They talk Tyler’s Allston Pudding interview, perception vs. reality, In My Nature 2, Emilio’s film festivals and more! James calls in at the end to talk road rage and wave his Mavs flag.

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    Ep. 34: Everything Is Hip Hop ft. Dreamer

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2020 67:14


    Tyler and James kick it with rapper and producer Dreamer for this session. The three start off with discussing the Milwaukee Bucks boycotting their game and the police shooting of Jacob Blake. From there they talk neighbors being cops, dogs being stupid, Hip Hop being everything, and much being more!

    Ep. 33: Manwashed ft. Steve

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2020 61:51


    Tyler and James are joined by friend of the show Steve for this session, where Tyler starts with a deep dive on his birthday and freedom in death. From there they get to discussing viruses, the presidential election, religion, Greek mythology, and more!

    Ep. 32: More Black Panther, Less Drake

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2020 64:25


    Tyler, Emilio, and James are back in person for another session! They start with Tyler’s Twitter engagement with Noname and social media as a whole. They then get into asking Emilio about his production experience so far and get to discussing if structure is natural in art, adapting to adversity, communicating vision, and more!

    Ep. 31: Responsibly Irresponsible ft. Aseem Garnault-Kumar

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2020 75:00


    Tyler sits down this episode with longtime friend Aseem for a classic chop up session. They talk representing culture, GMOs, existing through connection to others, octopuses, how eyes evolved, and much more!

    Ep. 30: Part 2 - Shazeeda Magnetism

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2020 53:30


    This episode is in two parts for best audio quality. Part two comes back with Emilio asking Tyler questions about Impact. Throughout it they discuss assuming roles, sacrificing creative ego, altruism, grander horizons, and more!

    Ep. 30: Part 1 - Make America Dumb Again

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2020 48:43


    This episode is in two parts for best audio quality. In part one Tyler and James talk society’s priorities, structure of capitalism, saying dumb things, humor as a defense mechanism, and James jumping back in.

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