Shannon and Maggie are BFF's and they like to drink, a lot. Listen as hilarity ensues while drinking wine, eating cheese, and watching TV.
That More Thing w/Shannon & Maggie
Recorded 05/13/25: Step into my office. It's our last couch pod while Shannon is in recovery (shorter episode than normal). All your usual shenanigans: TV we are watching, books we are reading, AITA, and internet meme of the week. It's also EUROVISION TIME!!!! Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 05/06/25: Revenge of the 6th. Couch pod number 3 with a cheese filled girl dinner and all of your usual shenanigans: TV we are watching, books we are reading, AITA, and internet meme of the week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 4/29/25: It's a couch pod while Shannon is in recovery. All your usual shenanigans: TV we are watching, books we are reading, AITA, and internet meme of the week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 4/15/25: Shannon has knee surgery, Maggie goes to Disney, and all your usual shenanigans: TV we are watching, books we are reading, AITA, and internet meme of the week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 4/1/25: April Fools! And Shannon's legal anniversary with Scott. Maggie and Shannon were both on Spring Break. Shannon drove to Florida and Maggie had Z over for a week and made "Grandma's Special Cake". All your usual shenanigans: Black men We Love, TV we are watching, books we are reading, AITA, and internet meme of the week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 3/18/25: We get real unhinged this episode. Come right out of the gate with poop talk; then we talk about our TV watching and then even more unhinged books including a vegetable based spicy novel. Maggie is gonna read this and give a book report in April. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 3/11/25: Same shenanigans different week. New bit: Resistance Corner. Books we are reading. TV we are watching. Check out the new AI assistant on SnapChat. Maggie opened an ETSY shop! AITA? And internet memes of the week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 3/4/25: It's Maradi Gras Ya'll!!! Same shenanigans different week. The world is falling apart. Books we are reading. TV we are watching. AITA? And internet memes of the week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 2/18/25: It's Shannon's Birthday!!! Shannon & Maggie had a spa day and we went out to dinner with the family. SNL 50. It's been a while, so we touch on the Superbowl; we read a lot of books; talk Traitors; and Reddit AITA. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 2/4/27: Shannon and Maggie discussed various topics including TV shows, social media, and their personal lives, including their reading preferences and recent TV watching experiences. They also shared their opinions on current political events and the dynamics of a game involving traitors and faithfuls. (Summary generated by ZoomAI.) Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 1/27/24: It's been 6 days and everything is terrible. Take care of yourself out there and get involved locally if you can. If you can't that is ok. Book of the week, "A Dawn with the Wolf Knight", by Elise Kova. Maggie also recommends "The Dragon's Bride", by Katee Robert. Still in love with "The Traitors" TV show. Go check it out. Maggie gets some awesome new car closure. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded: 1/21/25. It's super super cold in Michigan, schools were closed and Maggie stayed home. We recorded live through Podbean. Presidential Inauguration, Book reviews, and TV content. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 1/14/25: When did you get your first cell phone? We pick our book club book for the next episode. Shannon is obsessed with The Traitors. Maggie talks book recs and TV. AITA reactions and mems of the week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 12/17/24: We actually consistently recorded in December; then Shannon dropped the ball and didn't produce anything on time. Posting out of order. Lots of funs things to talk about here INCLUDING an interview with Shannon's mom who took a random trip to Disney driving home from Florida. Shannon reviews Red One, and we talk about LOTS of Holiday smut books. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 12/10/24: We actually consistently recorded in December; then Shannon dropped the ball and didn't produce anything on time. Posting out of order. It's the end of Maggie's semester. Tons of holiday book recs in this episode. Content, and AITA. Enjoy. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 12/31/24: Happy new year! We go see Nosferatu (OG Dracula) and then record a mini-sode while watching streaming NYE celebrations. Enjoy Shannon's overweight heavy breathing and dogs wrestling. Sorry for some gaps. Something happened to the audio. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 12/3/24: It's been a while and we apologize. Get caught up on the last month's worth of adventures. Maggie's Birthday, Salem trip, Thanksgiving. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
RECORDED LIVE: 11/5/2024. Indecision 2024. LIVE Election Coverage. It's our normal episode with election coverage sprinkled in. Good Luck Everyone! Find us at @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded LIVE 11/5/24: Katherine and I discuss Mark Darcy and Bridget Jones. Unedited. No songs.
Recorded 10/29/24: We power thorough our list! WGWH, Maggie keeps receipts, Harris Walz rally, Halloween adventures, Book reviews, AITA. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 10/22/24: Same ol shenangians. More Halloween book recommendations. AITA. We don't need your realistic book recommendations (unless they are uplifting). We want to escape reality. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 10/15: For sure! Fall shenanigans, reading recs, we are going to RomCon and Romantasy Con. We discuss a regency era version of the move Overboard. Lustful Lords deserve an HBO show. Some annoying politics, and some top shelf Reddit AITA. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 10/1/24: I don't know... maybe? Recorded early October! Heavy dive into what we are reading currently. Save the dates for RomanceCon and Romantacy Con! Shannon and Maggie DNF some books. Pucking Sweet review. Funko spills the beans on Agatha All Along. A little bad of politics, and some Reddit AITA. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 9/24/25: Episode 2 of season 13. Tons of reading recommendations. Plans for fall. Standard updates and stories. AITA's. Internet thing of the week. Go follow Cats on a Couch on Instagram. Coming soon... streaming on Amazon Prime. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 9/17/24: WELCOME TO SEASON 13!!!! Maggie loves big bugs. We are both chasing serotonin and spending way too much money. Lots of catching up. Books we have been reading. OFFICIAL REVIEW of "Hot Summer's Prey" by Latrexa Nova. Go follow Cats on a Couch on Instagram. Coming soon... streaming on Amazon Prime. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 8/27/24: We be busy! Special guest Katherine! 45 min of travel catch-up. Shannon & K go to DC and NYC; Maggie went to Disney's Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween w/Joseph, Ashley, and Zelda. Maggie meets JACK & SALLY! Books we read this summer. Go read HOT SUMMERS PREY, by Latrexa Nova. LAST EPISODE of SEASON 12. PostCredit Extras! Deadpool and Wolverine review; and Olympic commentary. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 7/16/24: We go to the Oddities and Curiosities expo. Go check it out when it comes to your area. Maggie moves out of her office. RIP Celebrities. Normal shenanigans with books and content. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 7/9/24: Apologies for the crappy sound. Shannon goes to Europe! Shannon & Scott loose their 231 Kindle streak. Usual updates for books and content. F the supreme court. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 6/18: Our one and only concert this summer, and Shannon packs 6 ladies in a mini-van to the New Kids on The Block Magic Summer Tour. Here is our 5 min review. Enjoy! #NKOTB #Blockheads #NewKids #SummerMagic Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 6/3/24: It's been a while, enjoy a nice long catch up. Did you read Ice Barbarians??? Cause we discuss them today. Same Shenangians, different day. Happy Summer! Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 5/7/24: It's Beltane! And we were so upset about some of our books, we complained about them for a second week in a row (no you are not bananas, Shannon was like WTF also - hahah). All your normal bits: books, WGWH, AITA, and memes! This weeks meme inspired us to do some reading, so go check out Ice Planet Barbarians by Ruby Dixon. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded April 30: It's gonna be MAY! Bear V Man. We complain about a few books we have read. Standard bits of WGWH, AITA, and weekly memes. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 4/22/24: It's been a month! An XL episode for you. We saw the SOLAR ECLIPSE in OHIO (which we planned 7 yrs ago)! Shannon went to Vegas. The new forking DETROIT sign! We catch up, share stories, share books and content. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 3/12/24: Technical difficulties. Statics are cool! We try a new bit. And some Reddit AITA. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 3/5/24: Get low, get low, get low-get low-get low. With special guest LOGAN! The usual shenanigans: books, TV, and WGWH8. We also ponder the issues with Marvel and Logan shares his favorite shows with us. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 2/27/24: We went to the Dirty Show and Convocation. We talk current books, shows, and WGWH8. The usually shenanigans. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 2/13/24: It's Mardi Gras! Same ol same ol. Current events, tv we are watching, and books we are reading. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded sometime in January: All your normal shennangians. TV we are watch, books we are reading. We chat about Dolly's new rock album. Go listen to it! Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 1/9/24: Hang in there the first 5 minutes; we catch it and it gets better. Michigan Wolverines are National Champions! And why you should you care about other colleges in your conferences. What we are reading, watching, Reddit content, and a Maggie rant. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 1/2/24: Happy New Year! We deep dive on the new Percy Jackson series on Disney+; catch up on our holiday drama; and do all our usual bits of what we read over the holidays, and Reddit AITA. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 12/12/23: Preparing for the winter holidays. Maggie gets reading glasses. Did you know biblically accurate angels are terrifying? Books we are reading. Holiday movies we are watching. We fork, marry, unalive our potatoes. All your normal bits for you this holiday season. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 12/5/23: It's been a while. The books we are reading. The things we are watching. The shenanigans we are getting up to. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 11/14/23: A quick couch episode. Catching up on content, smut books, and Shannon tries to take away Maggie's "Woman Card" over some college stories. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 11/7/23: Does Maggie really know Statistics? Shannon buys a creepy glass eye from the craft show. Buddy still sucks. TV we are watching, smut books we are reading, blanco persons we loath, and Reddit AITA? Maggie turns 41! Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 10/31: A little Halloween mini-sode for you. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 10/17/23: The usual shenanigans and updates. We may get carried away talking about orgies and preferred werewolf member sizes. If you ain't use to that by now, where have you been for 11 seasons? Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded on fall vacation and on 10/10: Shannon and Maggie go to LA! Hear our "on the road" recordings as well as an at home summary. Universal, Halloween Horror Nights, California Adventure, Disneyland, AND Special Guest General Backpain! Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 9/19/23: Eve cold open; then a "real quick story" takes up half the episode. We prep for vacation. Theeennnn all the normal stuff. Books we are reading, shows we are watching, and scammers we don't appreciate. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Google Podcast, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 9/12/23: It's our anniversary! The start of season 12 is official! All your favorite sections featured tonight: content, books, and Reddit. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Google Podcast, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
All the recordings from all the concerts Shannon went to in Summer 2023. Ending the episode with a three-parter at Smashing Pumpkins with Maggie. Bryan Adams, Boy George, Ghost and Amon Amarth, Metallica, Offspring, Gretta Van Fleet, Smashing Pumpkins and Interpol. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Google Podcast, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast
Recorded 8/29/23: Our last episode of season 11! Maggie is now a professor, Shannon has a sax dream with Kristen Bell, what's 6'3" and weighs 215 lbs?, we talk Ashoka, and Goddess of the Week. Original music composed by The Jessi Brown Experience. Find Jessi at TheJessiBrownExperience.Bandcamp.com, and us @ShannonsParty, @ActualMaggieMay, and @ThatMoreThing on Instagram. Now streaming on Podbean, Google Podcast, Pocket Cast, Spotify, and Apple Podcast