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He looked like the guy next door — the dependable architect in a button-down shirt, the dad carrying groceries, the man waving from the driveway. But prosecutors say Rex Heuermann was also living a second life beneath that suburban shell: the man behind the Gilgo Beach murders, one of the most disturbing serial-killer cases in modern history. In this psychological deep dive, Hidden Killers host Tony Brueski exposes the mental architecture of control, deception, and compartmentalization that behavioral experts say may allow someone to construct two worlds that never touch. From high-functioning psychopathy to strict operational secrecy, Tony explores how a person can design blueprints by day and allegedly engineer terror by night — all while maintaining a façade so ordinary that no one close to him ever sees the cracks forming. Heuermann's environment reflected his pathology: the soundproof basement, the meticulously organized tools, the rigid routines that enabled a double life to thrive. This episode breaks down how predators weaponize normalcy — and why the people closest to them often become the last to know. But there's another layer: the family. As the case moves toward trial, questions loom about whether his ex-wife Asa Ellerup or his daughter could be called to testify. Tony is joined by defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis to unpack the emotional and legal stakes of family testimony, jury bias, and the impact of years of media coverage on a case already carved into the public consciousness. This episode blends behavioral profiling with legal strategy to show how monsters hide in plain sight — and how the justice system tries to reveal what the façade so carefully concealed. Because evil doesn't always lurk in shadows. Sometimes, it stands at the front door smiling. #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #SerialKillerPsychology #HiddenKillers #TonyBrueski #BehavioralAnalysis #TrueCrimePodcast #AsaEllerup #FamilyTestimony #CriminalMind Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

He looked like the guy next door — the dependable architect in a button-down shirt, the dad carrying groceries, the man waving from the driveway. But prosecutors say Rex Heuermann was also living a second life beneath that suburban shell: the man behind the Gilgo Beach murders, one of the most disturbing serial-killer cases in modern history. In this psychological deep dive, Hidden Killers host Tony Brueski exposes the mental architecture of control, deception, and compartmentalization that behavioral experts say may allow someone to construct two worlds that never touch. From high-functioning psychopathy to strict operational secrecy, Tony explores how a person can design blueprints by day and allegedly engineer terror by night — all while maintaining a façade so ordinary that no one close to him ever sees the cracks forming. Heuermann's environment reflected his pathology: the soundproof basement, the meticulously organized tools, the rigid routines that enabled a double life to thrive. This episode breaks down how predators weaponize normalcy — and why the people closest to them often become the last to know. But there's another layer: the family. As the case moves toward trial, questions loom about whether his ex-wife Asa Ellerup or his daughter could be called to testify. Tony is joined by defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis to unpack the emotional and legal stakes of family testimony, jury bias, and the impact of years of media coverage on a case already carved into the public consciousness. This episode blends behavioral profiling with legal strategy to show how monsters hide in plain sight — and how the justice system tries to reveal what the façade so carefully concealed. Because evil doesn't always lurk in shadows. Sometimes, it stands at the front door smiling. #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #SerialKillerPsychology #HiddenKillers #TonyBrueski #BehavioralAnalysis #TrueCrimePodcast #AsaEllerup #FamilyTestimony #CriminalMind Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

He looked like the guy next door — the dependable architect in a button-down shirt, the dad carrying groceries, the man waving from the driveway. But prosecutors say Rex Heuermann was also living a second life beneath that suburban shell: the man behind the Gilgo Beach murders, one of the most disturbing serial-killer cases in modern history. In this psychological deep dive, Hidden Killers host Tony Brueski exposes the mental architecture of control, deception, and compartmentalization that behavioral experts say may allow someone to construct two worlds that never touch. From high-functioning psychopathy to strict operational secrecy, Tony explores how a person can design blueprints by day and allegedly engineer terror by night — all while maintaining a façade so ordinary that no one close to him ever sees the cracks forming. Heuermann's environment reflected his pathology: the soundproof basement, the meticulously organized tools, the rigid routines that enabled a double life to thrive. This episode breaks down how predators weaponize normalcy — and why the people closest to them often become the last to know. But there's another layer: the family. As the case moves toward trial, questions loom about whether his ex-wife Asa Ellerup or his daughter could be called to testify. Tony is joined by defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis to unpack the emotional and legal stakes of family testimony, jury bias, and the impact of years of media coverage on a case already carved into the public consciousness. This episode blends behavioral profiling with legal strategy to show how monsters hide in plain sight — and how the justice system tries to reveal what the façade so carefully concealed. Because evil doesn't always lurk in shadows. Sometimes, it stands at the front door smiling. #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #SerialKillerPsychology #HiddenKillers #TonyBrueski #BehavioralAnalysis #TrueCrimePodcast #AsaEllerup #FamilyTestimony #CriminalMind Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

The Gilgo Beach case just took a seismic turn. A judge has ruled that all seven murder charges against Rex Heuermann will be combined into one massive, high-stakes trial — a decision that reshapes the legal battlefield and raises the pressure on everyone involved. In today's episode, Tony Brueski and defense attorney/former prosecutor Eric Faddis break down what this ruling really means for the prosecution, the defense, and the jury tasked with navigating one of the most disturbing serial murder cases in American history. We examine why combining the charges could create a devastating narrative advantage for prosecutors, who will now be able to present a sweeping pattern of alleged behavior instead of siloed incidents. But this strategy also risks unfair prejudice, especially in a case already saturated with headlines, documentaries, and public speculation. Eric explains how jurors may psychologically struggle to separate evidence tied to each victim once everything is presented together. Then we turn to the wildcard that could influence the entire trial: Heuermann's family. Could his ex-wife, Asa Ellerup, be compelled to testify? Would their daughter take the stand? And what about the documentary footage that captured intimate, raw emotional moments — could that become part of the evidentiary record? This episode explores the legal complexities of spousal testimony, impeachment risk, and whether family cooperation helps or hurts the defense. We also break down jury selection, the challenges of finding impartial jurors in New York, and the role advanced DNA techniques may play in establishing — or undermining — the state's case. The ruling to consolidate the charges is not just procedural. It is transformational. If you're following the Gilgo Beach case, this is the turning point you need to understand. #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillersLive #TrueCrimePodcast #SerialKillerCase #AsaEllerup #DNAEvidence #TrueCrimeNews #Justice #EricFaddis Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

The Gilgo Beach case just took a seismic turn. A judge has ruled that all seven murder charges against Rex Heuermann will be combined into one massive, high-stakes trial — a decision that reshapes the legal battlefield and raises the pressure on everyone involved. In today's episode, Tony Brueski and defense attorney/former prosecutor Eric Faddis break down what this ruling really means for the prosecution, the defense, and the jury tasked with navigating one of the most disturbing serial murder cases in American history. We examine why combining the charges could create a devastating narrative advantage for prosecutors, who will now be able to present a sweeping pattern of alleged behavior instead of siloed incidents. But this strategy also risks unfair prejudice, especially in a case already saturated with headlines, documentaries, and public speculation. Eric explains how jurors may psychologically struggle to separate evidence tied to each victim once everything is presented together. Then we turn to the wildcard that could influence the entire trial: Heuermann's family. Could his ex-wife, Asa Ellerup, be compelled to testify? Would their daughter take the stand? And what about the documentary footage that captured intimate, raw emotional moments — could that become part of the evidentiary record? This episode explores the legal complexities of spousal testimony, impeachment risk, and whether family cooperation helps or hurts the defense. We also break down jury selection, the challenges of finding impartial jurors in New York, and the role advanced DNA techniques may play in establishing — or undermining — the state's case. The ruling to consolidate the charges is not just procedural. It is transformational. If you're following the Gilgo Beach case, this is the turning point you need to understand. #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillersLive #TrueCrimePodcast #SerialKillerCase #AsaEllerup #DNAEvidence #TrueCrimeNews #Justice #EricFaddis Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

The Gilgo Beach case just took a seismic turn. A judge has ruled that all seven murder charges against Rex Heuermann will be combined into one massive, high-stakes trial — a decision that reshapes the legal battlefield and raises the pressure on everyone involved. In today's episode, Tony Brueski and defense attorney/former prosecutor Eric Faddis break down what this ruling really means for the prosecution, the defense, and the jury tasked with navigating one of the most disturbing serial murder cases in American history. We examine why combining the charges could create a devastating narrative advantage for prosecutors, who will now be able to present a sweeping pattern of alleged behavior instead of siloed incidents. But this strategy also risks unfair prejudice, especially in a case already saturated with headlines, documentaries, and public speculation. Eric explains how jurors may psychologically struggle to separate evidence tied to each victim once everything is presented together. Then we turn to the wildcard that could influence the entire trial: Heuermann's family. Could his ex-wife, Asa Ellerup, be compelled to testify? Would their daughter take the stand? And what about the documentary footage that captured intimate, raw emotional moments — could that become part of the evidentiary record? This episode explores the legal complexities of spousal testimony, impeachment risk, and whether family cooperation helps or hurts the defense. We also break down jury selection, the challenges of finding impartial jurors in New York, and the role advanced DNA techniques may play in establishing — or undermining — the state's case. The ruling to consolidate the charges is not just procedural. It is transformational. If you're following the Gilgo Beach case, this is the turning point you need to understand. #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillersLive #TrueCrimePodcast #SerialKillerCase #AsaEllerup #DNAEvidence #TrueCrimeNews #Justice #EricFaddis Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a family live beside an alleged serial killer for nearly three decades without realizing the monster in their own home? In this powerful episode, two top behavioral experts—retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—break down the psychological blind spots, emotional dynamics, and manipulation patterns that may explain how Rex Heuermann hid a double life from those closest to him. Robin Dreeke opens the conversation with an FBI-level behavioral analysis of Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's longtime wife. He explores the subtle traits predators often look for in partners: trust over curiosity, stability over confrontation, and a tendency to rationalize red flags instead of investigating them. Dreeke explains how “truth-default mode” and compartmentalization allow serial offenders to mask their darkest impulses while maintaining the appearance of normal family life. We analyze key moments from the Peacock documentary that reveal how Asa's behaviors, reactions, and emotional patterns may have made her vulnerable to deception—not complicit in it. Then we shift to their daughter, Victoria, whose heartbreaking journey unfolds in real time. Shavaun Scott walks us through the psychological shock of realizing a beloved parent may be responsible for unimaginable violence. From Victoria's “love and hate can coexist” confession to her disturbing trauma-processing artwork, we explore ambiguous loss, identity shattering, and the impossible emotional math children of accused killers must reconcile. Victoria's shift from admiration to believing her father is “most likely guilty” is one of the most honest and devastating arcs in true-crime storytelling. This episode exposes not only how evil hides in plain sight—but how it fractures the #GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #TrueCrimeAnalysis #FBIBehavioralAnalysis #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #SerialKillerFamily #HiddenKillers Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a family live beside an alleged serial killer for nearly three decades without realizing the monster in their own home? In this powerful episode, two top behavioral experts—retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—break down the psychological blind spots, emotional dynamics, and manipulation patterns that may explain how Rex Heuermann hid a double life from those closest to him. Robin Dreeke opens the conversation with an FBI-level behavioral analysis of Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's longtime wife. He explores the subtle traits predators often look for in partners: trust over curiosity, stability over confrontation, and a tendency to rationalize red flags instead of investigating them. Dreeke explains how “truth-default mode” and compartmentalization allow serial offenders to mask their darkest impulses while maintaining the appearance of normal family life. We analyze key moments from the Peacock documentary that reveal how Asa's behaviors, reactions, and emotional patterns may have made her vulnerable to deception—not complicit in it. Then we shift to their daughter, Victoria, whose heartbreaking journey unfolds in real time. Shavaun Scott walks us through the psychological shock of realizing a beloved parent may be responsible for unimaginable violence. From Victoria's “love and hate can coexist” confession to her disturbing trauma-processing artwork, we explore ambiguous loss, identity shattering, and the impossible emotional math children of accused killers must reconcile. Victoria's shift from admiration to believing her father is “most likely guilty” is one of the most honest and devastating arcs in true-crime storytelling. This episode exposes not only how evil hides in plain sight—but how it fractures the #GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #TrueCrimeAnalysis #FBIBehavioralAnalysis #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #SerialKillerFamily #HiddenKillers Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a family live beside an alleged serial killer for nearly three decades without realizing the monster in their own home? In this powerful episode, two top behavioral experts—retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—break down the psychological blind spots, emotional dynamics, and manipulation patterns that may explain how Rex Heuermann hid a double life from those closest to him. Robin Dreeke opens the conversation with an FBI-level behavioral analysis of Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's longtime wife. He explores the subtle traits predators often look for in partners: trust over curiosity, stability over confrontation, and a tendency to rationalize red flags instead of investigating them. Dreeke explains how “truth-default mode” and compartmentalization allow serial offenders to mask their darkest impulses while maintaining the appearance of normal family life. We analyze key moments from the Peacock documentary that reveal how Asa's behaviors, reactions, and emotional patterns may have made her vulnerable to deception—not complicit in it. Then we shift to their daughter, Victoria, whose heartbreaking journey unfolds in real time. Shavaun Scott walks us through the psychological shock of realizing a beloved parent may be responsible for unimaginable violence. From Victoria's “love and hate can coexist” confession to her disturbing trauma-processing artwork, we explore ambiguous loss, identity shattering, and the impossible emotional math children of accused killers must reconcile. Victoria's shift from admiration to believing her father is “most likely guilty” is one of the most honest and devastating arcs in true-crime storytelling. This episode exposes not only how evil hides in plain sight—but how it fractures the #GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #TrueCrimeAnalysis #FBIBehavioralAnalysis #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #SerialKillerFamily #HiddenKillers Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a family live beside an alleged serial killer for nearly three decades without realizing the monster in their own home? In this powerful episode, two top behavioral experts—retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—break down the psychological blind spots, emotional dynamics, and manipulation patterns that may explain how Rex Heuermann hid a double life from those closest to him. Robin Dreeke opens the conversation with an FBI-level behavioral analysis of Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's longtime wife. He explores the subtle traits predators often look for in partners: trust over curiosity, stability over confrontation, and a tendency to rationalize red flags instead of investigating them. Dreeke explains how “truth-default mode” and compartmentalization allow serial offenders to mask their darkest impulses while maintaining the appearance of normal family life. We analyze key moments from the Peacock documentary that reveal how Asa's behaviors, reactions, and emotional patterns may have made her vulnerable to deception—not complicit in it. Then we shift to their daughter, Victoria, whose heartbreaking journey unfolds in real time. Shavaun Scott walks us through the psychological shock of realizing a beloved parent may be responsible for unimaginable violence. From Victoria's “love and hate can coexist” confession to her disturbing trauma-processing artwork, we explore ambiguous loss, identity shattering, and the impossible emotional math children of accused killers must reconcile. Victoria's shift from admiration to believing her father is “most likely guilty” is one of the most honest and devastating arcs in true-crime storytelling. This episode exposes not only how evil hides in plain sight—but how it fractures the #GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #TrueCrimeAnalysis #FBIBehavioralAnalysis #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #SerialKillerFamily #HiddenKillers Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a family live beside an alleged serial killer for nearly three decades without realizing the monster in their own home? In this powerful episode, two top behavioral experts—retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—break down the psychological blind spots, emotional dynamics, and manipulation patterns that may explain how Rex Heuermann hid a double life from those closest to him. Robin Dreeke opens the conversation with an FBI-level behavioral analysis of Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's longtime wife. He explores the subtle traits predators often look for in partners: trust over curiosity, stability over confrontation, and a tendency to rationalize red flags instead of investigating them. Dreeke explains how “truth-default mode” and compartmentalization allow serial offenders to mask their darkest impulses while maintaining the appearance of normal family life. We analyze key moments from the Peacock documentary that reveal how Asa's behaviors, reactions, and emotional patterns may have made her vulnerable to deception—not complicit in it. Then we shift to their daughter, Victoria, whose heartbreaking journey unfolds in real time. Shavaun Scott walks us through the psychological shock of realizing a beloved parent may be responsible for unimaginable violence. From Victoria's “love and hate can coexist” confession to her disturbing trauma-processing artwork, we explore ambiguous loss, identity shattering, and the impossible emotional math children of accused killers must reconcile. Victoria's shift from admiration to believing her father is “most likely guilty” is one of the most honest and devastating arcs in true-crime storytelling. This episode exposes not only how evil hides in plain sight—but how it fractures the #GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #TrueCrimeAnalysis #FBIBehavioralAnalysis #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #SerialKillerFamily #HiddenKillers Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In this deeply unsettling analysis, we examine two of the most revealing pieces of footage from the Gilgo Beach case: Asa Ellerup's tour of the rooms she was forbidden to enter for 27 years, and her emotional responses during a jail call with accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins us to break down the psychological contradictions, trauma-bond patterns, and body-language “tells” that expose the control dynamics inside this marriage. First, we explore Asa's walkthrough of the house: a gun room behind a steel door, a locked space under the stairs she'd never seen, and the basement investigators believe may be tied to multiple murders. Even as she demonstrates the locks, she insists “nothing was off limits.” Scott explains this as classic “doublethink,” a defense mechanism where two opposing truths are held to avoid cognitive collapse. From her closed eyes during stressful moments to her insistence that investigators are “picking, picking, picking,” every movement reveals emotional conflict. Then we shift to the jail phone call. Rex casually discusses dinner while facing seven murder charges. He never proclaims innocence — a strategic silence, Scott notes — while Asa brightens just hearing his voice despite her visible physical decline. Their divorce, she argues, was “strategic,” yet the emotional attachment remains intact. We analyze Victoria Heuermann's shifting language, normalized violence in the home, and why certain family members break free while others remain psychologically tethered. This episode digs into denial, coercive control, compartmentalization, and how predators create environments where locked rooms — literal and emotional — become part of everyday life. For anyone wanting to understand the psychological machinery behind serial offenders and their families, this is essential viewing. #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeachMurders #SerialKillerPsychology #TraumaBonding #BodyLanguageAnalysis #TrueCrimeCommunity #HiddenKillers #LockedRooms #LongIslandSerialKiller Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In this deeply unsettling analysis, we examine two of the most revealing pieces of footage from the Gilgo Beach case: Asa Ellerup's tour of the rooms she was forbidden to enter for 27 years, and her emotional responses during a jail call with accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins us to break down the psychological contradictions, trauma-bond patterns, and body-language “tells” that expose the control dynamics inside this marriage. First, we explore Asa's walkthrough of the house: a gun room behind a steel door, a locked space under the stairs she'd never seen, and the basement investigators believe may be tied to multiple murders. Even as she demonstrates the locks, she insists “nothing was off limits.” Scott explains this as classic “doublethink,” a defense mechanism where two opposing truths are held to avoid cognitive collapse. From her closed eyes during stressful moments to her insistence that investigators are “picking, picking, picking,” every movement reveals emotional conflict. Then we shift to the jail phone call. Rex casually discusses dinner while facing seven murder charges. He never proclaims innocence — a strategic silence, Scott notes — while Asa brightens just hearing his voice despite her visible physical decline. Their divorce, she argues, was “strategic,” yet the emotional attachment remains intact. We analyze Victoria Heuermann's shifting language, normalized violence in the home, and why certain family members break free while others remain psychologically tethered. This episode digs into denial, coercive control, compartmentalization, and how predators create environments where locked rooms — literal and emotional — become part of everyday life. For anyone wanting to understand the psychological machinery behind serial offenders and their families, this is essential viewing. #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeachMurders #SerialKillerPsychology #TraumaBonding #BodyLanguageAnalysis #TrueCrimeCommunity #HiddenKillers #LockedRooms #LongIslandSerialKiller Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In this deeply unsettling analysis, we examine two of the most revealing pieces of footage from the Gilgo Beach case: Asa Ellerup's tour of the rooms she was forbidden to enter for 27 years, and her emotional responses during a jail call with accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins us to break down the psychological contradictions, trauma-bond patterns, and body-language “tells” that expose the control dynamics inside this marriage. First, we explore Asa's walkthrough of the house: a gun room behind a steel door, a locked space under the stairs she'd never seen, and the basement investigators believe may be tied to multiple murders. Even as she demonstrates the locks, she insists “nothing was off limits.” Scott explains this as classic “doublethink,” a defense mechanism where two opposing truths are held to avoid cognitive collapse. From her closed eyes during stressful moments to her insistence that investigators are “picking, picking, picking,” every movement reveals emotional conflict. Then we shift to the jail phone call. Rex casually discusses dinner while facing seven murder charges. He never proclaims innocence — a strategic silence, Scott notes — while Asa brightens just hearing his voice despite her visible physical decline. Their divorce, she argues, was “strategic,” yet the emotional attachment remains intact. We analyze Victoria Heuermann's shifting language, normalized violence in the home, and why certain family members break free while others remain psychologically tethered. This episode digs into denial, coercive control, compartmentalization, and how predators create environments where locked rooms — literal and emotional — become part of everyday life. For anyone wanting to understand the psychological machinery behind serial offenders and their families, this is essential viewing. #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeachMurders #SerialKillerPsychology #TraumaBonding #BodyLanguageAnalysis #TrueCrimeCommunity #HiddenKillers #LockedRooms #LongIslandSerialKiller Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In this deeply unsettling analysis, we examine two of the most revealing pieces of footage from the Gilgo Beach case: Asa Ellerup's tour of the rooms she was forbidden to enter for 27 years, and her emotional responses during a jail call with accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins us to break down the psychological contradictions, trauma-bond patterns, and body-language “tells” that expose the control dynamics inside this marriage. First, we explore Asa's walkthrough of the house: a gun room behind a steel door, a locked space under the stairs she'd never seen, and the basement investigators believe may be tied to multiple murders. Even as she demonstrates the locks, she insists “nothing was off limits.” Scott explains this as classic “doublethink,” a defense mechanism where two opposing truths are held to avoid cognitive collapse. From her closed eyes during stressful moments to her insistence that investigators are “picking, picking, picking,” every movement reveals emotional conflict. Then we shift to the jail phone call. Rex casually discusses dinner while facing seven murder charges. He never proclaims innocence — a strategic silence, Scott notes — while Asa brightens just hearing his voice despite her visible physical decline. Their divorce, she argues, was “strategic,” yet the emotional attachment remains intact. We analyze Victoria Heuermann's shifting language, normalized violence in the home, and why certain family members break free while others remain psychologically tethered. This episode digs into denial, coercive control, compartmentalization, and how predators create environments where locked rooms — literal and emotional — become part of everyday life. For anyone wanting to understand the psychological machinery behind serial offenders and their families, this is essential viewing. #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeachMurders #SerialKillerPsychology #TraumaBonding #BodyLanguageAnalysis #TrueCrimeCommunity #HiddenKillers #LockedRooms #LongIslandSerialKiller Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a man live under the same roof as his wife and children while allegedly carrying out seven brutal murders over nearly three decades? In this powerful two-part breakdown, we bring together two of the nation's leading experts on human behavior—former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—to explain how Rex Heuermann may have maintained one of the most disturbing double lives in modern true crime. Robin Dreeke opens the episode with a deep dive into the psychology of compartmentalization, truth-default theory, and why spouses detect lies only about 50% of the time. He explains how Heuermann allegedly created a split existence: family man in Massapequa Park, predator operating in secrecy when his wife and children were out of town. Burner phones, controlled finances, rigid routines—each played into the illusion of normalcy. Dreeke draws critical parallels to notorious cases like BTK, revealing the subtle relationship red flags that can be missed even by those closest to the perpetrator. Then psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins to analyze the chilling emotional dynamic captured in the Peacock documentary. Asa Ellerup's unwavering loyalty—even calling Rex her “hero”—opens a window into trauma bonding, coercive control, and the psychological grooming that can turn a spouse into an unknowing enabler. From Asa's isolation to tightly restricted access to finances and technology, Scott exposes the mechanisms that may have kept her locked inside Heuermann's constructed reality. Together, these insights reveal not just how a predator allegedly concealed his crimes, but how ordinary families can be pulled into extraordinary darkness without ever recognizing the danger. For anyone concerned about relationship safety, manipulation, or hidden abuse, this episode offers crucial perspective—and a sobering look at the human cost behind one of America's most haunting serial killer cases. #RexHeuermann #SerialKillerPsychology #GilgoBeachMurders #AsaEllerup #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #TrueCrimeAnalysis #DoubleLife #TraumaBonding #HiddenKillersPodcast Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a man live under the same roof as his wife and children while allegedly carrying out seven brutal murders over nearly three decades? In this powerful two-part breakdown, we bring together two of the nation's leading experts on human behavior—former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—to explain how Rex Heuermann may have maintained one of the most disturbing double lives in modern true crime. Robin Dreeke opens the episode with a deep dive into the psychology of compartmentalization, truth-default theory, and why spouses detect lies only about 50% of the time. He explains how Heuermann allegedly created a split existence: family man in Massapequa Park, predator operating in secrecy when his wife and children were out of town. Burner phones, controlled finances, rigid routines—each played into the illusion of normalcy. Dreeke draws critical parallels to notorious cases like BTK, revealing the subtle relationship red flags that can be missed even by those closest to the perpetrator. Then psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins to analyze the chilling emotional dynamic captured in the Peacock documentary. Asa Ellerup's unwavering loyalty—even calling Rex her “hero”—opens a window into trauma bonding, coercive control, and the psychological grooming that can turn a spouse into an unknowing enabler. From Asa's isolation to tightly restricted access to finances and technology, Scott exposes the mechanisms that may have kept her locked inside Heuermann's constructed reality. Together, these insights reveal not just how a predator allegedly concealed his crimes, but how ordinary families can be pulled into extraordinary darkness without ever recognizing the danger. For anyone concerned about relationship safety, manipulation, or hidden abuse, this episode offers crucial perspective—and a sobering look at the human cost behind one of America's most haunting serial killer cases. #RexHeuermann #SerialKillerPsychology #GilgoBeachMurders #AsaEllerup #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #TrueCrimeAnalysis #DoubleLife #TraumaBonding #HiddenKillersPodcast Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a man live under the same roof as his wife and children while allegedly carrying out seven brutal murders over nearly three decades? In this powerful two-part breakdown, we bring together two of the nation's leading experts on human behavior—former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—to explain how Rex Heuermann may have maintained one of the most disturbing double lives in modern true crime. Robin Dreeke opens the episode with a deep dive into the psychology of compartmentalization, truth-default theory, and why spouses detect lies only about 50% of the time. He explains how Heuermann allegedly created a split existence: family man in Massapequa Park, predator operating in secrecy when his wife and children were out of town. Burner phones, controlled finances, rigid routines—each played into the illusion of normalcy. Dreeke draws critical parallels to notorious cases like BTK, revealing the subtle relationship red flags that can be missed even by those closest to the perpetrator. Then psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins to analyze the chilling emotional dynamic captured in the Peacock documentary. Asa Ellerup's unwavering loyalty—even calling Rex her “hero”—opens a window into trauma bonding, coercive control, and the psychological grooming that can turn a spouse into an unknowing enabler. From Asa's isolation to tightly restricted access to finances and technology, Scott exposes the mechanisms that may have kept her locked inside Heuermann's constructed reality. Together, these insights reveal not just how a predator allegedly concealed his crimes, but how ordinary families can be pulled into extraordinary darkness without ever recognizing the danger. For anyone concerned about relationship safety, manipulation, or hidden abuse, this episode offers crucial perspective—and a sobering look at the human cost behind one of America's most haunting serial killer cases. #RexHeuermann #SerialKillerPsychology #GilgoBeachMurders #AsaEllerup #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #TrueCrimeAnalysis #DoubleLife #TraumaBonding #HiddenKillersPodcast Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a man live under the same roof as his wife and children while allegedly carrying out seven brutal murders over nearly three decades? In this powerful two-part breakdown, we bring together two of the nation's leading experts on human behavior—former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—to explain how Rex Heuermann may have maintained one of the most disturbing double lives in modern true crime. Robin Dreeke opens the episode with a deep dive into the psychology of compartmentalization, truth-default theory, and why spouses detect lies only about 50% of the time. He explains how Heuermann allegedly created a split existence: family man in Massapequa Park, predator operating in secrecy when his wife and children were out of town. Burner phones, controlled finances, rigid routines—each played into the illusion of normalcy. Dreeke draws critical parallels to notorious cases like BTK, revealing the subtle relationship red flags that can be missed even by those closest to the perpetrator. Then psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins to analyze the chilling emotional dynamic captured in the Peacock documentary. Asa Ellerup's unwavering loyalty—even calling Rex her “hero”—opens a window into trauma bonding, coercive control, and the psychological grooming that can turn a spouse into an unknowing enabler. From Asa's isolation to tightly restricted access to finances and technology, Scott exposes the mechanisms that may have kept her locked inside Heuermann's constructed reality. Together, these insights reveal not just how a predator allegedly concealed his crimes, but how ordinary families can be pulled into extraordinary darkness without ever recognizing the danger. For anyone concerned about relationship safety, manipulation, or hidden abuse, this episode offers crucial perspective—and a sobering look at the human cost behind one of America's most haunting serial killer cases. #RexHeuermann #SerialKillerPsychology #GilgoBeachMurders #AsaEllerup #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #TrueCrimeAnalysis #DoubleLife #TraumaBonding #HiddenKillersPodcast Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

How does a man live under the same roof as his wife and children while allegedly carrying out seven brutal murders over nearly three decades? In this powerful two-part breakdown, we bring together two of the nation's leading experts on human behavior—former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott—to explain how Rex Heuermann may have maintained one of the most disturbing double lives in modern true crime. Robin Dreeke opens the episode with a deep dive into the psychology of compartmentalization, truth-default theory, and why spouses detect lies only about 50% of the time. He explains how Heuermann allegedly created a split existence: family man in Massapequa Park, predator operating in secrecy when his wife and children were out of town. Burner phones, controlled finances, rigid routines—each played into the illusion of normalcy. Dreeke draws critical parallels to notorious cases like BTK, revealing the subtle relationship red flags that can be missed even by those closest to the perpetrator. Then psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins to analyze the chilling emotional dynamic captured in the Peacock documentary. Asa Ellerup's unwavering loyalty—even calling Rex her “hero”—opens a window into trauma bonding, coercive control, and the psychological grooming that can turn a spouse into an unknowing enabler. From Asa's isolation to tightly restricted access to finances and technology, Scott exposes the mechanisms that may have kept her locked inside Heuermann's constructed reality. Together, these insights reveal not just how a predator allegedly concealed his crimes, but how ordinary families can be pulled into extraordinary darkness without ever recognizing the danger. For anyone concerned about relationship safety, manipulation, or hidden abuse, this episode offers crucial perspective—and a sobering look at the human cost behind one of America's most haunting serial killer cases. #RexHeuermann #SerialKillerPsychology #GilgoBeachMurders #AsaEllerup #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #TrueCrimeAnalysis #DoubleLife #TraumaBonding #HiddenKillersPodcast Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In today's episode, we break down the stunning split narrative unfolding around the Gilgo Beach murders—one fueled by Netflix's Gone Girls, the other by Peacock's explosive new documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. At the center of both? Asa Ellerup, the ex-wife of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann, whose reactions are raising eyebrows across the true crime world. After watching Gone Girls, Asa reportedly began wondering whether her former husband might be a fall guy—an extraordinary claim considering the decades of corruption inside Suffolk County law enforcement. From former Police Chief James Burke's violent cover-ups to DA Thomas Spota's obstruction charges, the county's history is messy enough to make anyone question official narratives. But in a dramatic turn, Peacock's documentary shows a different Asa—one calling Rex her “hero,” defending him emotionally, and describing prison visits as “first dates.” The family reportedly received substantial payment for their participation, raising ethical questions and potential legal consequences under proposed updates to New York's Son of Sam laws. We examine the forensic battle unfolding in court, including the high-stakes Frye hearing over whole genome sequencing—a cutting-edge DNA method prosecutors say ties hairs from victims to Heuermann or members of his household. The defense, meanwhile, argues the science is untested in New York and should be excluded. Add to that:  • Over 200 firearms found in a hidden vault  • Significant damage to the Heuermann home during searches  • The children's firsthand accounts of living with an accused killer  • Statements that could be used at trial This case now sits at the chaotic intersection of true crime media, family psychology, forensic science, and a justice system still trying to outrun its own corruption. And if Asa's reaction is any indication, the story is far from settled. #GilgoBeachMurders #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #TrueCrimeNews #LongIslandSerialKiller #HiddenKillers #DNAEvidence #DocumentaryAnalysis #JusticeSystem #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In today's episode, we break down the stunning split narrative unfolding around the Gilgo Beach murders—one fueled by Netflix's Gone Girls, the other by Peacock's explosive new documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. At the center of both? Asa Ellerup, the ex-wife of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann, whose reactions are raising eyebrows across the true crime world. After watching Gone Girls, Asa reportedly began wondering whether her former husband might be a fall guy—an extraordinary claim considering the decades of corruption inside Suffolk County law enforcement. From former Police Chief James Burke's violent cover-ups to DA Thomas Spota's obstruction charges, the county's history is messy enough to make anyone question official narratives. But in a dramatic turn, Peacock's documentary shows a different Asa—one calling Rex her “hero,” defending him emotionally, and describing prison visits as “first dates.” The family reportedly received substantial payment for their participation, raising ethical questions and potential legal consequences under proposed updates to New York's Son of Sam laws. We examine the forensic battle unfolding in court, including the high-stakes Frye hearing over whole genome sequencing—a cutting-edge DNA method prosecutors say ties hairs from victims to Heuermann or members of his household. The defense, meanwhile, argues the science is untested in New York and should be excluded. Add to that:  • Over 200 firearms found in a hidden vault  • Significant damage to the Heuermann home during searches  • The children's firsthand accounts of living with an accused killer  • Statements that could be used at trial This case now sits at the chaotic intersection of true crime media, family psychology, forensic science, and a justice system still trying to outrun its own corruption. And if Asa's reaction is any indication, the story is far from settled. #GilgoBeachMurders #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #TrueCrimeNews #LongIslandSerialKiller #HiddenKillers #DNAEvidence #DocumentaryAnalysis #JusticeSystem #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In today's episode, we break down the stunning split narrative unfolding around the Gilgo Beach murders—one fueled by Netflix's Gone Girls, the other by Peacock's explosive new documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. At the center of both? Asa Ellerup, the ex-wife of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann, whose reactions are raising eyebrows across the true crime world. After watching Gone Girls, Asa reportedly began wondering whether her former husband might be a fall guy—an extraordinary claim considering the decades of corruption inside Suffolk County law enforcement. From former Police Chief James Burke's violent cover-ups to DA Thomas Spota's obstruction charges, the county's history is messy enough to make anyone question official narratives. But in a dramatic turn, Peacock's documentary shows a different Asa—one calling Rex her “hero,” defending him emotionally, and describing prison visits as “first dates.” The family reportedly received substantial payment for their participation, raising ethical questions and potential legal consequences under proposed updates to New York's Son of Sam laws. We examine the forensic battle unfolding in court, including the high-stakes Frye hearing over whole genome sequencing—a cutting-edge DNA method prosecutors say ties hairs from victims to Heuermann or members of his household. The defense, meanwhile, argues the science is untested in New York and should be excluded. Add to that:  • Over 200 firearms found in a hidden vault  • Significant damage to the Heuermann home during searches  • The children's firsthand accounts of living with an accused killer  • Statements that could be used at trial This case now sits at the chaotic intersection of true crime media, family psychology, forensic science, and a justice system still trying to outrun its own corruption. And if Asa's reaction is any indication, the story is far from settled. #GilgoBeachMurders #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #TrueCrimeNews #LongIslandSerialKiller #HiddenKillers #DNAEvidence #DocumentaryAnalysis #JusticeSystem #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

For the first time, Asa Ellerup, Rex Heuermann's wife, and Victoria, his daughter, have publicly shared their story and their home. We dive into all the surprising revelations from an unexpected courting, a secret room and shocking clues to potentially other victims now yet charged. Plus the latest on the controversial RH Jeep. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're unpacking one of the most haunting psychological stories to emerge from the Gilgo Beach murders — the steadfast denial of Asa Ellerup, estranged wife of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Even as prosecutors present a mountain of evidence — DNA matches, hair fibers from family members found on victims, burner phones, and a detailed murder planning document — Asa still calls her husband her “hero.” She describes visiting him in jail as feeling like “a first date.” She smiles when she hears his voice. She insists their home — where police say the murders were plotted — could never be a crime scene. In this gripping psychological breakdown, retired FBI Behavioral Analyst Robin Dreeke joins Tony Brueski to dissect how trauma, denial, and love can merge into something that looks like loyalty but is really self-preservation. Dreeke explains how 27 years of marriage built what he calls a “truth infrastructure” — a psychological foundation so powerful that admitting betrayal feels more dangerous than believing the lie. He unpacks the mechanics of trauma bonding, cognitive dissonance, and protective blindness, explaining how the human brain often rejects unbearable truth to preserve emotional stability. Dreeke also explores how financial stress, illness, and media exploitation may amplify Asa's denial — especially as she battles cancer, navigates public scrutiny, and faces criticism for participating in the Peacock documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. Then, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony to analyze the most disturbing moments captured on camera — including Rex's recorded jail calls and Asa's telling body language. Why does she close her eyes when confronted with evidence? Why does she describe love as something that would “hurt him”? Scott reveals how guilt, dependency, and unresolved trauma often trap partners of predators in cycles of emotional paralysis. Together, Dreeke and Scott piece together a portrait not just of denial — but of the psychological collateral damage left behind when a family's reality is shattered by unimaginable truth.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're unpacking one of the most haunting psychological stories to emerge from the Gilgo Beach murders — the steadfast denial of Asa Ellerup, estranged wife of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Even as prosecutors present a mountain of evidence — DNA matches, hair fibers from family members found on victims, burner phones, and a detailed murder planning document — Asa still calls her husband her “hero.” She describes visiting him in jail as feeling like “a first date.” She smiles when she hears his voice. She insists their home — where police say the murders were plotted — could never be a crime scene. In this gripping psychological breakdown, retired FBI Behavioral Analyst Robin Dreeke joins Tony Brueski to dissect how trauma, denial, and love can merge into something that looks like loyalty but is really self-preservation. Dreeke explains how 27 years of marriage built what he calls a “truth infrastructure” — a psychological foundation so powerful that admitting betrayal feels more dangerous than believing the lie. He unpacks the mechanics of trauma bonding, cognitive dissonance, and protective blindness, explaining how the human brain often rejects unbearable truth to preserve emotional stability. Dreeke also explores how financial stress, illness, and media exploitation may amplify Asa's denial — especially as she battles cancer, navigates public scrutiny, and faces criticism for participating in the Peacock documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. Then, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony to analyze the most disturbing moments captured on camera — including Rex's recorded jail calls and Asa's telling body language. Why does she close her eyes when confronted with evidence? Why does she describe love as something that would “hurt him”? Scott reveals how guilt, dependency, and unresolved trauma often trap partners of predators in cycles of emotional paralysis. Together, Dreeke and Scott piece together a portrait not just of denial — but of the psychological collateral damage left behind when a family's reality is shattered by unimaginable truth.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're unpacking one of the most haunting psychological stories to emerge from the Gilgo Beach murders — the steadfast denial of Asa Ellerup, estranged wife of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Even as prosecutors present a mountain of evidence — DNA matches, hair fibers from family members found on victims, burner phones, and a detailed murder planning document — Asa still calls her husband her “hero.” She describes visiting him in jail as feeling like “a first date.” She smiles when she hears his voice. She insists their home — where police say the murders were plotted — could never be a crime scene. In this gripping psychological breakdown, retired FBI Behavioral Analyst Robin Dreeke joins Tony Brueski to dissect how trauma, denial, and love can merge into something that looks like loyalty but is really self-preservation. Dreeke explains how 27 years of marriage built what he calls a “truth infrastructure” — a psychological foundation so powerful that admitting betrayal feels more dangerous than believing the lie. He unpacks the mechanics of trauma bonding, cognitive dissonance, and protective blindness, explaining how the human brain often rejects unbearable truth to preserve emotional stability. Dreeke also explores how financial stress, illness, and media exploitation may amplify Asa's denial — especially as she battles cancer, navigates public scrutiny, and faces criticism for participating in the Peacock documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. Then, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony to analyze the most disturbing moments captured on camera — including Rex's recorded jail calls and Asa's telling body language. Why does she close her eyes when confronted with evidence? Why does she describe love as something that would “hurt him”? Scott reveals how guilt, dependency, and unresolved trauma often trap partners of predators in cycles of emotional paralysis. Together, Dreeke and Scott piece together a portrait not just of denial — but of the psychological collateral damage left behind when a family's reality is shattered by unimaginable truth.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're unpacking one of the most haunting psychological stories to emerge from the Gilgo Beach murders — the steadfast denial of Asa Ellerup, estranged wife of accused serial killer Rex Heuermann. Even as prosecutors present a mountain of evidence — DNA matches, hair fibers from family members found on victims, burner phones, and a detailed murder planning document — Asa still calls her husband her “hero.” She describes visiting him in jail as feeling like “a first date.” She smiles when she hears his voice. She insists their home — where police say the murders were plotted — could never be a crime scene. In this gripping psychological breakdown, retired FBI Behavioral Analyst Robin Dreeke joins Tony Brueski to dissect how trauma, denial, and love can merge into something that looks like loyalty but is really self-preservation. Dreeke explains how 27 years of marriage built what he calls a “truth infrastructure” — a psychological foundation so powerful that admitting betrayal feels more dangerous than believing the lie. He unpacks the mechanics of trauma bonding, cognitive dissonance, and protective blindness, explaining how the human brain often rejects unbearable truth to preserve emotional stability. Dreeke also explores how financial stress, illness, and media exploitation may amplify Asa's denial — especially as she battles cancer, navigates public scrutiny, and faces criticism for participating in the Peacock documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. Then, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony to analyze the most disturbing moments captured on camera — including Rex's recorded jail calls and Asa's telling body language. Why does she close her eyes when confronted with evidence? Why does she describe love as something that would “hurt him”? Scott reveals how guilt, dependency, and unresolved trauma often trap partners of predators in cycles of emotional paralysis. Together, Dreeke and Scott piece together a portrait not just of denial — but of the psychological collateral damage left behind when a family's reality is shattered by unimaginable truth.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're diving into one of the most disturbing intersections of true crime and psychology yet — the family of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer, and their shocking public defense of a man prosecutors call one of the most prolific murderers in modern history. In this powerful two-part special, Tony Brueski unpacks the emotional, psychological, and ethical fallout from Peacock's new documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets — including Asa Ellerup's chilling confession that she still calls her accused killer husband her “hero.” Heuermann's family — wife Asa, daughter Victoria, and son Christopher — sit down for the first time on camera, describing their life before and after the 2023 arrest that turned their world upside down. Despite overwhelming forensic evidence — including DNA links, hair fibers from family members found on victims, and a manifesto allegedly detailing murder methods — Asa insists on her husband's innocence, calling prison visits their “first dates.” Tony Brueski explores how denial, trauma bonding, and cognitive dissonance shape these responses — and why victims' families are calling the documentary “a slap in the face.” Legal experts weigh in on the $1 million payday allegedly tied to the family's cooperation and how this could spark an expansion of New York's Son of Sam laws to block profiting from criminal notoriety. Then, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke joins Tony to analyze how killers like Heuermann hide in plain sight — and how families miss the signs. Dreeke explains the “truth-default state,” why spouses detect lies only about half the time, and how suburban normalcy becomes the perfect camouflage for horror. The conversation delves into the terrifying psychology of compartmentalization, exploring how someone can live a double life so convincing that even their loved ones see only the mask. From Heuermann's alleged burner phones to his meticulous planning during family trips, it's a case study in deception — and the human mind's desperate need to believe what feels safe.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're diving into one of the most disturbing intersections of true crime and psychology yet — the family of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer, and their shocking public defense of a man prosecutors call one of the most prolific murderers in modern history. In this powerful two-part special, Tony Brueski unpacks the emotional, psychological, and ethical fallout from Peacock's new documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets — including Asa Ellerup's chilling confession that she still calls her accused killer husband her “hero.” Heuermann's family — wife Asa, daughter Victoria, and son Christopher — sit down for the first time on camera, describing their life before and after the 2023 arrest that turned their world upside down. Despite overwhelming forensic evidence — including DNA links, hair fibers from family members found on victims, and a manifesto allegedly detailing murder methods — Asa insists on her husband's innocence, calling prison visits their “first dates.” Tony Brueski explores how denial, trauma bonding, and cognitive dissonance shape these responses — and why victims' families are calling the documentary “a slap in the face.” Legal experts weigh in on the $1 million payday allegedly tied to the family's cooperation and how this could spark an expansion of New York's Son of Sam laws to block profiting from criminal notoriety. Then, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke joins Tony to analyze how killers like Heuermann hide in plain sight — and how families miss the signs. Dreeke explains the “truth-default state,” why spouses detect lies only about half the time, and how suburban normalcy becomes the perfect camouflage for horror. The conversation delves into the terrifying psychology of compartmentalization, exploring how someone can live a double life so convincing that even their loved ones see only the mask. From Heuermann's alleged burner phones to his meticulous planning during family trips, it's a case study in deception — and the human mind's desperate need to believe what feels safe.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're diving into one of the most disturbing intersections of true crime and psychology yet — the family of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer, and their shocking public defense of a man prosecutors call one of the most prolific murderers in modern history. In this powerful two-part special, Tony Brueski unpacks the emotional, psychological, and ethical fallout from Peacock's new documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets — including Asa Ellerup's chilling confession that she still calls her accused killer husband her “hero.” Heuermann's family — wife Asa, daughter Victoria, and son Christopher — sit down for the first time on camera, describing their life before and after the 2023 arrest that turned their world upside down. Despite overwhelming forensic evidence — including DNA links, hair fibers from family members found on victims, and a manifesto allegedly detailing murder methods — Asa insists on her husband's innocence, calling prison visits their “first dates.” Tony Brueski explores how denial, trauma bonding, and cognitive dissonance shape these responses — and why victims' families are calling the documentary “a slap in the face.” Legal experts weigh in on the $1 million payday allegedly tied to the family's cooperation and how this could spark an expansion of New York's Son of Sam laws to block profiting from criminal notoriety. Then, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke joins Tony to analyze how killers like Heuermann hide in plain sight — and how families miss the signs. Dreeke explains the “truth-default state,” why spouses detect lies only about half the time, and how suburban normalcy becomes the perfect camouflage for horror. The conversation delves into the terrifying psychology of compartmentalization, exploring how someone can live a double life so convincing that even their loved ones see only the mask. From Heuermann's alleged burner phones to his meticulous planning during family trips, it's a case study in deception — and the human mind's desperate need to believe what feels safe.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're diving into one of the most disturbing intersections of true crime and psychology yet — the family of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer, and their shocking public defense of a man prosecutors call one of the most prolific murderers in modern history. In this powerful two-part special, Tony Brueski unpacks the emotional, psychological, and ethical fallout from Peacock's new documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets — including Asa Ellerup's chilling confession that she still calls her accused killer husband her “hero.” Heuermann's family — wife Asa, daughter Victoria, and son Christopher — sit down for the first time on camera, describing their life before and after the 2023 arrest that turned their world upside down. Despite overwhelming forensic evidence — including DNA links, hair fibers from family members found on victims, and a manifesto allegedly detailing murder methods — Asa insists on her husband's innocence, calling prison visits their “first dates.” Tony Brueski explores how denial, trauma bonding, and cognitive dissonance shape these responses — and why victims' families are calling the documentary “a slap in the face.” Legal experts weigh in on the $1 million payday allegedly tied to the family's cooperation and how this could spark an expansion of New York's Son of Sam laws to block profiting from criminal notoriety. Then, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke joins Tony to analyze how killers like Heuermann hide in plain sight — and how families miss the signs. Dreeke explains the “truth-default state,” why spouses detect lies only about half the time, and how suburban normalcy becomes the perfect camouflage for horror. The conversation delves into the terrifying psychology of compartmentalization, exploring how someone can live a double life so convincing that even their loved ones see only the mask. From Heuermann's alleged burner phones to his meticulous planning during family trips, it's a case study in deception — and the human mind's desperate need to believe what feels safe.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're revisiting the most disturbing, politically charged, and psychologically revealing chapter in the Gilgo Beach murder investigation — one that now includes the alleged discovery of Rex Heuermann's “manifesto.” In this explosive special, Tony Brueski unpacks two powerful narratives unfolding in parallel: the discovery of a chilling document allegedly authored by Heuermann detailing methods for serial murder, and the growing skepticism of his ex-wife Asa Ellerup, who's beginning to wonder if her former husband might be a pawn in a much darker story of corruption and cover-ups. Investigators reportedly found a meticulously written digital file on Heuermann's computer — a step-by-step “how-to” guide for abducting, killing, dismembering, and disposing of victims while avoiding forensic detection. The alleged instructions include forensic countermeasures that mirror the real-world evidence found across multiple crime scenes, including Manorville and Ocean Parkway, where the remains of victims like Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack were discovered. Prosecutors say this “manifesto” could become the smoking gun in proving premeditation, linking Heuermann to multiple unsolved murders, and showing a disturbing consciousness of guilt. But with a county marred by scandal — from former police chief James Burke's porn-and-violence scandal to DA Thomas Spota's obstruction conviction — the defense is asking: how much of this can be trusted? Enter Asa Ellerup. After watching Netflix's Gone Girls: The Long Island Serial Killer, she isn't pushing wild conspiracies — but she is questioning the system. Her legal team is raising alarms about Suffolk County's history of corruption, claiming it taints everything from the DNA evidence (derived through a contested “whole genome sequencing” technique) to the investigative integrity itself. Could a broken system be capable of building a monster to hide its own sins? Or is this simply the final unraveling of one of America's most terrifying suburban nightmares?

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're revisiting the most disturbing, politically charged, and psychologically revealing chapter in the Gilgo Beach murder investigation — one that now includes the alleged discovery of Rex Heuermann's “manifesto.” In this explosive special, Tony Brueski unpacks two powerful narratives unfolding in parallel: the discovery of a chilling document allegedly authored by Heuermann detailing methods for serial murder, and the growing skepticism of his ex-wife Asa Ellerup, who's beginning to wonder if her former husband might be a pawn in a much darker story of corruption and cover-ups. Investigators reportedly found a meticulously written digital file on Heuermann's computer — a step-by-step “how-to” guide for abducting, killing, dismembering, and disposing of victims while avoiding forensic detection. The alleged instructions include forensic countermeasures that mirror the real-world evidence found across multiple crime scenes, including Manorville and Ocean Parkway, where the remains of victims like Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack were discovered. Prosecutors say this “manifesto” could become the smoking gun in proving premeditation, linking Heuermann to multiple unsolved murders, and showing a disturbing consciousness of guilt. But with a county marred by scandal — from former police chief James Burke's porn-and-violence scandal to DA Thomas Spota's obstruction conviction — the defense is asking: how much of this can be trusted? Enter Asa Ellerup. After watching Netflix's Gone Girls: The Long Island Serial Killer, she isn't pushing wild conspiracies — but she is questioning the system. Her legal team is raising alarms about Suffolk County's history of corruption, claiming it taints everything from the DNA evidence (derived through a contested “whole genome sequencing” technique) to the investigative integrity itself. Could a broken system be capable of building a monster to hide its own sins? Or is this simply the final unraveling of one of America's most terrifying suburban nightmares?

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're revisiting the most disturbing, politically charged, and psychologically revealing chapter in the Gilgo Beach murder investigation — one that now includes the alleged discovery of Rex Heuermann's “manifesto.” In this explosive special, Tony Brueski unpacks two powerful narratives unfolding in parallel: the discovery of a chilling document allegedly authored by Heuermann detailing methods for serial murder, and the growing skepticism of his ex-wife Asa Ellerup, who's beginning to wonder if her former husband might be a pawn in a much darker story of corruption and cover-ups. Investigators reportedly found a meticulously written digital file on Heuermann's computer — a step-by-step “how-to” guide for abducting, killing, dismembering, and disposing of victims while avoiding forensic detection. The alleged instructions include forensic countermeasures that mirror the real-world evidence found across multiple crime scenes, including Manorville and Ocean Parkway, where the remains of victims like Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack were discovered. Prosecutors say this “manifesto” could become the smoking gun in proving premeditation, linking Heuermann to multiple unsolved murders, and showing a disturbing consciousness of guilt. But with a county marred by scandal — from former police chief James Burke's porn-and-violence scandal to DA Thomas Spota's obstruction conviction — the defense is asking: how much of this can be trusted? Enter Asa Ellerup. After watching Netflix's Gone Girls: The Long Island Serial Killer, she isn't pushing wild conspiracies — but she is questioning the system. Her legal team is raising alarms about Suffolk County's history of corruption, claiming it taints everything from the DNA evidence (derived through a contested “whole genome sequencing” technique) to the investigative integrity itself. Could a broken system be capable of building a monster to hide its own sins? Or is this simply the final unraveling of one of America's most terrifying suburban nightmares?

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're revisiting one of the darkest and most complex cases in modern true crime — the alleged double life of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer who managed to live a picture-perfect suburban existence while allegedly committing unthinkable crimes. In this gripping two-part special, Tony Brueski and retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke unravel how Heuermann allegedly concealed a predatory world behind the mask of a mild-mannered architect. Dreeke dissects the psychological mechanics of deception — how a man can manipulate his own family into overlooking chaos, maintain the illusion of normalcy, and exploit society's indifference toward marginalized victims. How do you hide something this horrifying in plain sight? By preying on a culture that doesn't look too closely. The conversation dives deep into the psychology of incremental abnormality — how small behavioral shifts go unnoticed until the monster is fully formed. From the quiet control of his household to the alleged targeting of sex trafficking victims society ignored, Dreeke exposes the chilling behavioral blueprint of a man who thrived in the shadows of neglect. Then, the focus turns to Suffolk County's corruption problem — one that may have allowed this case to fester for over a decade. Enter James Burke, the disgraced former police chief whose own scandals — including beating a suspect over stolen porn and sex toys — helped derail the Gilgo investigation for years. With former DA Thomas Spota later indicted for obstruction and witness tampering, the question becomes unavoidable: Did law enforcement's rot give a serial killer room to operate? The episode also examines Asa Ellerup's new public comments following Netflix's Gone Girls: The Long Island Serial Killer. Heuermann's ex-wife isn't pushing conspiracy theories — but she's asking questions. Could her husband be a fall guy for a broken system? With DNA evidence hinging on a controversial technique called whole genome sequencing, the courts now face a precedent-setting decision that could make or break the case.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're revisiting one of the darkest and most complex cases in modern true crime — the alleged double life of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer who managed to live a picture-perfect suburban existence while allegedly committing unthinkable crimes. In this gripping two-part special, Tony Brueski and retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke unravel how Heuermann allegedly concealed a predatory world behind the mask of a mild-mannered architect. Dreeke dissects the psychological mechanics of deception — how a man can manipulate his own family into overlooking chaos, maintain the illusion of normalcy, and exploit society's indifference toward marginalized victims. How do you hide something this horrifying in plain sight? By preying on a culture that doesn't look too closely. The conversation dives deep into the psychology of incremental abnormality — how small behavioral shifts go unnoticed until the monster is fully formed. From the quiet control of his household to the alleged targeting of sex trafficking victims society ignored, Dreeke exposes the chilling behavioral blueprint of a man who thrived in the shadows of neglect. Then, the focus turns to Suffolk County's corruption problem — one that may have allowed this case to fester for over a decade. Enter James Burke, the disgraced former police chief whose own scandals — including beating a suspect over stolen porn and sex toys — helped derail the Gilgo investigation for years. With former DA Thomas Spota later indicted for obstruction and witness tampering, the question becomes unavoidable: Did law enforcement's rot give a serial killer room to operate? The episode also examines Asa Ellerup's new public comments following Netflix's Gone Girls: The Long Island Serial Killer. Heuermann's ex-wife isn't pushing conspiracy theories — but she's asking questions. Could her husband be a fall guy for a broken system? With DNA evidence hinging on a controversial technique called whole genome sequencing, the courts now face a precedent-setting decision that could make or break the case.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're revisiting one of the darkest and most complex cases in modern true crime — the alleged double life of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer who managed to live a picture-perfect suburban existence while allegedly committing unthinkable crimes. In this gripping two-part special, Tony Brueski and retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke unravel how Heuermann allegedly concealed a predatory world behind the mask of a mild-mannered architect. Dreeke dissects the psychological mechanics of deception — how a man can manipulate his own family into overlooking chaos, maintain the illusion of normalcy, and exploit society's indifference toward marginalized victims. How do you hide something this horrifying in plain sight? By preying on a culture that doesn't look too closely. The conversation dives deep into the psychology of incremental abnormality — how small behavioral shifts go unnoticed until the monster is fully formed. From the quiet control of his household to the alleged targeting of sex trafficking victims society ignored, Dreeke exposes the chilling behavioral blueprint of a man who thrived in the shadows of neglect. Then, the focus turns to Suffolk County's corruption problem — one that may have allowed this case to fester for over a decade. Enter James Burke, the disgraced former police chief whose own scandals — including beating a suspect over stolen porn and sex toys — helped derail the Gilgo investigation for years. With former DA Thomas Spota later indicted for obstruction and witness tampering, the question becomes unavoidable: Did law enforcement's rot give a serial killer room to operate? The episode also examines Asa Ellerup's new public comments following Netflix's Gone Girls: The Long Island Serial Killer. Heuermann's ex-wife isn't pushing conspiracy theories — but she's asking questions. Could her husband be a fall guy for a broken system? With DNA evidence hinging on a controversial technique called whole genome sequencing, the courts now face a precedent-setting decision that could make or break the case.

As part of our Hidden Killers 2025 Year in Review series, we're revisiting one of the darkest and most complex cases in modern true crime — the alleged double life of Rex Heuermann, the accused Gilgo Beach serial killer who managed to live a picture-perfect suburban existence while allegedly committing unthinkable crimes. In this gripping two-part special, Tony Brueski and retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke unravel how Heuermann allegedly concealed a predatory world behind the mask of a mild-mannered architect. Dreeke dissects the psychological mechanics of deception — how a man can manipulate his own family into overlooking chaos, maintain the illusion of normalcy, and exploit society's indifference toward marginalized victims. How do you hide something this horrifying in plain sight? By preying on a culture that doesn't look too closely. The conversation dives deep into the psychology of incremental abnormality — how small behavioral shifts go unnoticed until the monster is fully formed. From the quiet control of his household to the alleged targeting of sex trafficking victims society ignored, Dreeke exposes the chilling behavioral blueprint of a man who thrived in the shadows of neglect. Then, the focus turns to Suffolk County's corruption problem — one that may have allowed this case to fester for over a decade. Enter James Burke, the disgraced former police chief whose own scandals — including beating a suspect over stolen porn and sex toys — helped derail the Gilgo investigation for years. With former DA Thomas Spota later indicted for obstruction and witness tampering, the question becomes unavoidable: Did law enforcement's rot give a serial killer room to operate? The episode also examines Asa Ellerup's new public comments following Netflix's Gone Girls: The Long Island Serial Killer. Heuermann's ex-wife isn't pushing conspiracy theories — but she's asking questions. Could her husband be a fall guy for a broken system? With DNA evidence hinging on a controversial technique called whole genome sequencing, the courts now face a precedent-setting decision that could make or break the case.

As the fallout in the aftermath of the arrest of Rex Heuermann continues to rain down on all of those involved, his wife, Asa Ellerup and her two children Victoria and Christopher gave an update through their lawyer about their ordeal. It was revealed that not only is Asa Ellerup dealing with her husband being an alleged serial killer, she also has breast and skin cancer. Her insurance, according to the lawyer, is due to expire in sixty days since it was tethered to Rex Heuermann's employment. On the flip side, the lawyer for the Gilbert family, John Ray had a completely different take on things. In this episodee we take a look at both sides of the coin and break down the latest news. to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Rex Heuermann's wife struggling to pay for cancer treatment, wants to sue police – NBC New York

Can Asa Ellerup Save Rex Heuermann? Family Fallout at Trial As Rex Heuermann prepares to face trial, his family's role becomes a potential turning point. Could his ex-wife Asa Ellerup testify? Would their daughter take the stand? And what about documentary footage that could be subpoenaed, dragging private conversations into the courtroom? Tony and Eric unpack the risks of family testimony, the near-impossible task of seating an impartial jury in New York, and the emotional toll of putting loved ones under oath. With the public spotlight burning hot, the Gilgo Beach case isn't just about DNA and evidence bags — it's about families torn apart, jurors swayed by headlines, and the challenge of finding justice in a case everyone already thinks they know. Hashtags:  #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillersLive #TrueCrimePodcast #AsaEllerup #FamilyTestimony #FairTrial #TrueCrimeNews #SerialKillerCase #Justice Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Adelsons' Dark Holidays, D4VD's Body in the Trunk, Rex Heuermann's Trial Tightrope In this episode of Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski, Stacy Cole, and Todd Michaels, the conversation swings from lighthearted Halloween chatter into some of the darkest cases dominating headlines today. The show opens with pumpkins, pasta sauce, and a creepy animatronic doll that leaves Harper screaming — but the mood shifts quickly as the hosts turn their attention to the Adelson family. Once known for wealth and influence, the Adelsons now face prison cells, empty chairs at holiday tables, and children left in the middle of a murder-for-hire plot. What do the holidays look like for a family split between freedom and incarceration? And how does Jeff Lacasse's painful, raw testimony continue to shape public perception of Wendi Adelson and the damage she left behind? From Florida, the spotlight moves west to Hollywood. Rising star D4VD's career collapsed overnight after the decomposed body of 15-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez was discovered in the trunk of his Tesla. Tony is joined by defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis to unpack the legal nightmare: ownership vs. possession of the vehicle, the disturbing revelation of matching tattoos, grooming allegations, missing-person timelines, and deleted social media trails that may point to destruction of evidence. Is this the fall of a star — or could someone in his inner circle be framing him? Finally, the team shifts to Long Island, where accused serial killer Rex Heuermann faces a consolidated mega-trial after a judge ruled that seven murder charges will be tried together. With groundbreaking DNA technology, victim dignity concerns, and family fallout all in play, the Gilgo Beach case has become one of the most complex trials in recent memory. Can Heuermann's ex-wife Asa Ellerup or even his daughter be called to testify? Can jurors truly remain impartial under this level of public scrutiny? And will new forensic science set precedent for murder prosecutions across the country? This episode blends sharp analysis, dark humor, and deep dives into three of the most haunting cases of our time — the Adelsons, D4VD, and Rex Heuermann — exposing not only the crimes, but the rippling human cost. Hashtags: #HiddenKillersLive #AdelsonCase #DanMarkel #D4VD #CelesteRivasHernandez #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #TrueCrimePodcast #Justice #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Can Asa Ellerup Save Rex Heuermann? Family Fallout at Trial As Rex Heuermann prepares to face trial, his family's role becomes a potential turning point. Could his ex-wife Asa Ellerup testify? Would their daughter take the stand? And what about documentary footage that could be subpoenaed, dragging private conversations into the courtroom? Tony and Eric unpack the risks of family testimony, the near-impossible task of seating an impartial jury in New York, and the emotional toll of putting loved ones under oath. With the public spotlight burning hot, the Gilgo Beach case isn't just about DNA and evidence bags — it's about families torn apart, jurors swayed by headlines, and the challenge of finding justice in a case everyone already thinks they know. Hashtags:  #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillersLive #TrueCrimePodcast #AsaEllerup #FamilyTestimony #FairTrial #TrueCrimeNews #SerialKillerCase #Justice Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Adelsons' Dark Holidays, D4VD's Body in the Trunk, Rex Heuermann's Trial Tightrope In this episode of Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski, Stacy Cole, and Todd Michaels, the conversation swings from lighthearted Halloween chatter into some of the darkest cases dominating headlines today. The show opens with pumpkins, pasta sauce, and a creepy animatronic doll that leaves Harper screaming — but the mood shifts quickly as the hosts turn their attention to the Adelson family. Once known for wealth and influence, the Adelsons now face prison cells, empty chairs at holiday tables, and children left in the middle of a murder-for-hire plot. What do the holidays look like for a family split between freedom and incarceration? And how does Jeff Lacasse's painful, raw testimony continue to shape public perception of Wendi Adelson and the damage she left behind? From Florida, the spotlight moves west to Hollywood. Rising star D4VD's career collapsed overnight after the decomposed body of 15-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez was discovered in the trunk of his Tesla. Tony is joined by defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis to unpack the legal nightmare: ownership vs. possession of the vehicle, the disturbing revelation of matching tattoos, grooming allegations, missing-person timelines, and deleted social media trails that may point to destruction of evidence. Is this the fall of a star — or could someone in his inner circle be framing him? Finally, the team shifts to Long Island, where accused serial killer Rex Heuermann faces a consolidated mega-trial after a judge ruled that seven murder charges will be tried together. With groundbreaking DNA technology, victim dignity concerns, and family fallout all in play, the Gilgo Beach case has become one of the most complex trials in recent memory. Can Heuermann's ex-wife Asa Ellerup or even his daughter be called to testify? Can jurors truly remain impartial under this level of public scrutiny? And will new forensic science set precedent for murder prosecutions across the country? This episode blends sharp analysis, dark humor, and deep dives into three of the most haunting cases of our time — the Adelsons, D4VD, and Rex Heuermann — exposing not only the crimes, but the rippling human cost. Hashtags: #HiddenKillersLive #AdelsonCase #DanMarkel #D4VD #CelesteRivasHernandez #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #TrueCrimePodcast #Justice #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Can Asa Ellerup Save Rex Heuermann? Family Fallout at Trial As Rex Heuermann prepares to face trial, his family's role becomes a potential turning point. Could his ex-wife Asa Ellerup testify? Would their daughter take the stand? And what about documentary footage that could be subpoenaed, dragging private conversations into the courtroom? Tony and Eric unpack the risks of family testimony, the near-impossible task of seating an impartial jury in New York, and the emotional toll of putting loved ones under oath. With the public spotlight burning hot, the Gilgo Beach case isn't just about DNA and evidence bags — it's about families torn apart, jurors swayed by headlines, and the challenge of finding justice in a case everyone already thinks they know. Hashtags:  #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillersLive #TrueCrimePodcast #AsaEllerup #FamilyTestimony #FairTrial #TrueCrimeNews #SerialKillerCase #Justice Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Adelsons' Dark Holidays, D4VD's Body in the Trunk, Rex Heuermann's Trial Tightrope In this episode of Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski, Stacy Cole, and Todd Michaels, the conversation swings from lighthearted Halloween chatter into some of the darkest cases dominating headlines today. The show opens with pumpkins, pasta sauce, and a creepy animatronic doll that leaves Harper screaming — but the mood shifts quickly as the hosts turn their attention to the Adelson family. Once known for wealth and influence, the Adelsons now face prison cells, empty chairs at holiday tables, and children left in the middle of a murder-for-hire plot. What do the holidays look like for a family split between freedom and incarceration? And how does Jeff Lacasse's painful, raw testimony continue to shape public perception of Wendi Adelson and the damage she left behind? From Florida, the spotlight moves west to Hollywood. Rising star D4VD's career collapsed overnight after the decomposed body of 15-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez was discovered in the trunk of his Tesla. Tony is joined by defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis to unpack the legal nightmare: ownership vs. possession of the vehicle, the disturbing revelation of matching tattoos, grooming allegations, missing-person timelines, and deleted social media trails that may point to destruction of evidence. Is this the fall of a star — or could someone in his inner circle be framing him? Finally, the team shifts to Long Island, where accused serial killer Rex Heuermann faces a consolidated mega-trial after a judge ruled that seven murder charges will be tried together. With groundbreaking DNA technology, victim dignity concerns, and family fallout all in play, the Gilgo Beach case has become one of the most complex trials in recent memory. Can Heuermann's ex-wife Asa Ellerup or even his daughter be called to testify? Can jurors truly remain impartial under this level of public scrutiny? And will new forensic science set precedent for murder prosecutions across the country? This episode blends sharp analysis, dark humor, and deep dives into three of the most haunting cases of our time — the Adelsons, D4VD, and Rex Heuermann — exposing not only the crimes, but the rippling human cost. Hashtags: #HiddenKillersLive #AdelsonCase #DanMarkel #D4VD #CelesteRivasHernandez #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #TrueCrimePodcast #Justice #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Attorney John Ray has made some pretty big accusations against Rex Heuermann's wife and kids since the arrest, even going so far as to say that his wife, Asa Ellerup, was in on the whole thing. He has not provided any proof to back these statements up however. Now, the lawyer for Heuermann's daughter Victoria and son Christopher has responded.Let's dive in and see what he had to say!to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Attorney for Gilgo Beach murder suspect's children hits back at claims family knew about alleged crimes | The Independent

The alleged Long Island Serial killer, Rex Heuermann, has signed the deed to the house he shared with his wife, Asa Ellerup over to her as the two continue to get their affairs in order. Not only that but Asa Ellerup is also making a documentary it would seem. This comes as attorney John Ray continues to lob accusations at Ellerup and Heuermann. Let's dive in and see what's going on!(commercial at 8:55)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann signs over his dilapidated $530K family home to his soon-to-be ex-wife for $0 as she begins filming documentary with major streamer | Daily Mail Online

Asa Ellerup Speaks: Why She Still Defends Rex in the Gilgo Beach Case What does it mean when a wife says that telling her husband “I love you” would hurt him? In a recent documentary, Asa Ellerup, wife of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, gave interviews that stunned audiences with her continued loyalty, denial, and outright disbelief. “He's a family man. He didn't do this,” she insists—even as evidence piles up. In this segment, we break down Asa's words, her courtroom reactions, and her refusal to see the mounting proof. Then we contrast that with the most chilling discovery from Rex's own basement: a typed “murder blueprint.” The document contained sectioned lists straight out of an engineering project plan: Problems: DNA, fingerprints, blood stains. Supplies: Rope (“heavy rope for neck”), saws, plastic drop cloths, acid and lye. Dump sites: GPS coordinates for multiple disposal locations. Targets: “Small women,” “remove tattoos,” “remove ID marks.” This wasn't random scribbling. It was methodical. It even included reminders like “get sleep before hunt” and “use pushpins to hang drop cloths.” Cold, calculated, and terrifying in its simplicity. We unpack what it means when someone needs a checklist for murder, why the rigidity points to an engineering brain, and how denial in a spouse can cross from blindness into complicity. Add in the neighbors and coworkers who described Rex as aggressive, unsettling, and Jekyll-and-Hyde, and you get the full picture: a man hiding behind a suburban façade, and a wife who still insists it's all a mistake. This is where the case stops being about “maybe” and starts staring us in the face. When you have lists that literally say “rope for neck,” how much more does it take? Hashtags #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeach #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #MurderBlueprint #HiddenKillers #Denial #SerialKillerCase #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Asa Ellerup Speaks: Why She Still Defends Rex in the Gilgo Beach Case What does it mean when a wife says that telling her husband “I love you” would hurt him? In a recent documentary, Asa Ellerup, wife of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, gave interviews that stunned audiences with her continued loyalty, denial, and outright disbelief. “He's a family man. He didn't do this,” she insists—even as evidence piles up. In this segment, we break down Asa's words, her courtroom reactions, and her refusal to see the mounting proof. Then we contrast that with the most chilling discovery from Rex's own basement: a typed “murder blueprint.” The document contained sectioned lists straight out of an engineering project plan: Problems: DNA, fingerprints, blood stains. Supplies: Rope (“heavy rope for neck”), saws, plastic drop cloths, acid and lye. Dump sites: GPS coordinates for multiple disposal locations. Targets: “Small women,” “remove tattoos,” “remove ID marks.” This wasn't random scribbling. It was methodical. It even included reminders like “get sleep before hunt” and “use pushpins to hang drop cloths.” Cold, calculated, and terrifying in its simplicity. We unpack what it means when someone needs a checklist for murder, why the rigidity points to an engineering brain, and how denial in a spouse can cross from blindness into complicity. Add in the neighbors and coworkers who described Rex as aggressive, unsettling, and Jekyll-and-Hyde, and you get the full picture: a man hiding behind a suburban façade, and a wife who still insists it's all a mistake. This is where the case stops being about “maybe” and starts staring us in the face. When you have lists that literally say “rope for neck,” how much more does it take? Hashtags #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeach #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #MurderBlueprint #HiddenKillers #Denial #SerialKillerCase #TrueCrimeCommunity Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872