Catching the Long Island Serial Killer

This episode goes deeper into the detail from the Rex Heuermann case that's generated more questions than almost anything since his guilty plea: the therapist who worked closely with his family, and what she was reportedly hiding the entire time. Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to eight murders and is now serving three life sentences plus a hundred years at Clinton Correctional. But according to reporting, the therapist involved with his family wasn't licensed, appeared on a Peacock special discussing details tied to her clients, and reportedly guided his wife toward living in the remodeled bedroom connected to the murders. Tony Brueski and the Hidden Killers team walk through how something like this slips through, who was actually responsible for catching it, and whether it gives Heuermann's legal team any real grounds for appeal. According to the attorneys the show consulted, it does not. The episode also revisits the parts of this case that remain unresolved. One victim is still known only as Jane Doe. Families in the courtroom have said they believe there are more victims Heuermann hasn't been charged with, and he's reportedly agreed to sit down with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, though the team is skeptical he'll give up everything he knows without using it as leverage first. There's also a longer look at how Heuermann evaded detection for decades while working as an architect and living just miles from where he left his victims, and what that says about how long it can take to catch someone who understands exactly how to avoid attention. For everyone following this case from the beginning, this episode covers the full picture: what's confirmed, what's still being investigated, and what may never be fully resolved. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HeuermannCase #TrueCrimePodcast #LongIsland #SerialKiller #FBI #Ethics #HiddenKillers #ColdCase

Amber Costello was twenty-seven, from North Carolina, battling addiction, and living with roommates in West Babylon. Friends described her as generous and funny. Her sister said publicly she forgives Rex Heuermann — and that Amber would have too. And without her case, Heuermann might still be walking free. This look back puts Amber first — her life before the case file — and then traces how the evidence surrounding her disappearance became the key that unlocked the entire Gilgo Beach investigation.The night before Amber vanished, Heuermann was scammed at her address — her roommate ran a hustle, and he left empty-handed. Then came a text from his burner phone. Then he came back. Amber walked out to meet him. Her roommate Dave Schaller saw the truck — a first-generation Chevrolet Avalanche. That description and that text sat in a file for over a decade until the 2022 task force ran them through registration databases and Heuermann's name surfaced. Surveillance followed. Then the pizza-crust DNA. Then the warrants, the house searches, the planning document, the arrest, and ultimately a guilty plea to eight murders.The segment also turns the lens inward through psychotherapist Shavaun Scott's examination of the erosion-of-agency pattern — connecting the Heuermann and Richins cases through the same thread: how control doesn't begin with a crisis but with compromises so incremental you don't see the cage being built until you're inside it. Asa Ellerup lived inside that cage for twenty-seven years. Eric Richins saw it clearly and still couldn't leave. Scott turns the conversation toward anyone who recognizes those small concessions in their own life. Heuermann is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#AmberCostello #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GilgoFour #ShavaunScott #ErosionOfAgency #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #TheGilgoBeachCase

She asked the question no daughter should ever have to ask: did you ever think about me when you were doing this? Rex Heuermann said no. The two worlds never crossed. Victoria Heuermann heard that answer sitting across from her father in a jailhouse room — after he'd just admitted to killing eight women in the house where she grew up — and she forgave him on the spot. This look back sits with both halves of that exchange and everything they reveal.Nobody thinks about the daughter of the serial killer. Victoria said that herself. And the documentary showed what living inside that identity looks like — a young woman cycling between depression and anger, whose sense of self has been shattered, who has questioned whether she should even be here. She said her father was a loving dad and a serial killer. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examines whether those two things can coexist as truth, or whether that framework is itself a form of the compartmentalization that allowed Rex to do what he did.Then the documentary went deeper into Rex's own mind. Sessions where he described a four-day cycle refined over years. Disposals timed with a stopwatch. Crime scene photos he reviews in his cell while claiming he can't connect himself to the person who created them. He asked the therapist if she'd ever sat with a serial killer before — not with vulnerability, but with performance. FBI profiler John Douglas compared him to BTK. Scott examines whether Rex is still controlling the narrative even in confession — and whether Victoria's forgiveness is something she arrived at freely, or something he's still shaping from behind bars. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#VictoriaHeuermann #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #ShavaunScott #JohnDouglas #SerialKillerDaughter #Forgiveness #TrueCrime #TheGilgoBeachCase

Rex Heuermann confessed to eight murders in front of his ex-wife and daughter, in sessions run by a counselor who had no legal right to be there. Legal analyst Eric Faddis returns to dig deeper into what that could mean for Heuermann's case going forward, starting with the theory that could actually carry weight on appeal: did he plead guilty specifically to keep his family off the witness stand, and if the confession that drove that decision came from a deceptive setup, does the entire foundation of the plea come into question.Faddis is upfront that this wouldn't be a straightforward path to overturning anything, but calls it a genuinely creative legal theory worth tracking. We also dig into the privilege fight directly, whether confidentiality still applies to sessions with someone who wasn't actually a licensed therapist, and how a court might weigh the patient's expectation of privacy against the fact that the person on the other side of the room had no real credentials.From there, Faddis addresses the HIPAA question and whether any of Heuermann's statements to Winter could now become fair game for further investigation. We also walk through why the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine likely doesn't apply here, since Winter was acting as a private individual, not a government agent. This continues to be one of the strangest threads in the entire case, and it isn't finished unraveling.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #AllisonWinter #HeuermannCase #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #SuffolkCounty #GuiltyPleaChallenge #TrueCrimePodcast #LegalTheory #CriminalJustice

For nearly three years, Allison Winter sat across from Rex Heuermann inside the Suffolk County Jail, week after week, counseling him and his family through some of the most consequential moments of his case. She was there around the time he privately confessed to his son and wife. What she wasn't, according to prosecutors, was a licensed clinical social worker.Winter now faces eighteen felony charges, including grand larceny, scheme to defraud, and unauthorized practice of a profession, for allegedly billing Cigna, UnitedHealthcare, and Medicare for more than sixty thousand dollars while treating Heuermann without the credentials New York requires. She appeared prominently in the Peacock documentary covering the case, present for some of the family's rawest moments on camera.We focus specifically on what this means for Heuermann himself. Legal analyst Eric Faddis explains whether an unlicensed therapist sitting in on private sessions could give Heuermann's defense any traction, and why his guilty plea makes that path far harder than if the case had gone to trial. We also examine whether therapist-patient privilege still applies when the "therapist" wasn't legitimately licensed in the first place, and what that could mean for anything said in those sessions.This is a deep look at the access Winter had, the money she allegedly took, and the question that hangs over the entire arrangement: how did someone without proper credentials get that close, for that long, to one of the most closely watched inmates in the country. We break down the charges and what comes next.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #AllisonWinter #HeuermannCase #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #SuffolkCounty #JailhouseAccess #TrueCrimePodcast #CriminalJustice #InsuranceFraud

A man who spent decades organizing murder into checklists and phases may have organized his exit from the justice system the same way. This look back sits with the uncomfortable possibility at the center of Rex Heuermann's guilty plea: that it wasn't a confession — it was one last piece of planning.One thousand days of maintaining his innocence. Every motion denied. Every legal door closed. And then a calculated pivot — his attorney's own words. During a confidential session, Heuermann brought up Karen Vergata, a woman he was never charged with killing. Her case was folded into the deal. No separate prosecution. No public accounting of the evidence against him in her death. The agreement reportedly bars further charges related to all eight named victims. The FBI cooperation requirement reportedly carries no enforceable consequences. The DA is reviewing hundreds of cold cases. Heuermann's attorney says there are no more victims.Then there's Asa. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examines the woman who heard her ex-husband admit to eight murders — and, according to a documentary, moved back into the basement where it happened. Scott doesn't condemn. She traces Asa's documented history of trauma and explains why, for a woman whose entire sense of safety was built around one person, the decisions that look incomprehensible to the outside world make a devastating kind of psychological sense. Heuermann is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting. The families packed the courtroom. Some wept. The question that won't leave is whether the man at the front of the room was still in control.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #AsaEllerup #LISK #KarenVergata #ShavaunScott #CalculatedPivot #GuiltyPlea #TrueCrime #TheGilgoBeachCase

She sat in the last row. Her ex-husband stood at the front of a packed courtroom and admitted to killing eight women over seventeen years — while she shared a bed with him, raised their daughter with him, built what she thought was a life. Rex Heuermann's guilty plea is now the legal record. And Asa Ellerup, the woman who once called him her hero, walked out of that courtroom into a wrongful death lawsuit naming her and their daughter as defendants.This look back sits with the aftermath. The lawsuit, filed by the son of victim Valerie Mack, alleges the family profited from a documentary and showed disregard for the victims. Asa's attorney has called the claims reckless. Victoria Heuermann has publicly stated she believes her father most likely committed the killings — a conclusion she reached before the plea. Two people who shared a roof with this man, processing the same nightmare in opposite directions.Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down the legal exposure — what the wrongful death theory requires, how a guilty plea changes the civil landscape, and what the family realistically faces. Retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke examines the behavioral dimension: how the people closest to a convicted serial offender rebuild after a courtroom confession, what compartmentalization looks like at this scale, and what Heuermann's attorney meant when he called the plea a "sense of relief." After the plea, Asa told reporters her thoughts were with the victims' families. Heuermann is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #WrongfulDeath #EricFaddis #RobinDreeke #LISK #TrueCrime #TheGilgoBeachCase

Maureen Brainard-Barnes was a songwriter. Her sister said she never got to show the world how talented she was. She was twenty-five, a mother of two, facing eviction and fighting for custody when she rode the train from Connecticut to Manhattan in July 2007 because she had run out of options. Her daughter Nicolette was seven. Nicolette would later stand at the indictment hearing and speak publicly about growing up without her mother. Three years after Maureen disappeared, her remains were found in burlap along Ocean Parkway.Melissa Barthelemy graduated from cosmetology school in Buffalo and moved to New York to do hair. She dreamed of owning her own salon. The city was expensive. The salon work was slow. She ended up in a basement apartment in the Bronx, working escort ads that were supposed to be temporary. On July 12, 2009, she told a friend she was going to meet a man. Five weeks of calls followed — from someone using Melissa's phone to terrorize her fifteen-year-old sister Amanda with details no child should ever have to hear.Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to both murders. He confirmed strangulation in each case. The evidence — burner phones tracing his commute, DNA on bindings, five weeks of targeted calls to a teenager — is now part of the record. But this look back starts with the women. Who they were. What they wanted. What the world lost when they disappeared. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting. Maureen wanted to write songs. Melissa wanted to cut hair. They deserved to be remembered for that.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#MaureenBrainardBarnes #MelissaBarthelemy #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GilgoFour #ColdCase #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #TheGilgoBeachCase

Asa Ellerup called Rex Heuermann her savior. Their daughter Victoria publicly said she believes he most likely committed the killings. And on April 8, 2026, he stood in a courtroom and confirmed it — pleading guilty to seven murders and admitting to an eighth while his ex-wife and daughter sat in the gallery. This look back sits with what that moment did to a family already fractured by opposite conclusions.Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examines the psychology behind nearly three decades of "not knowing." Prosecutors alleged Heuermann engineered his crimes around his family's schedule. His wife's own hair was reportedly found on victims. Investigators recovered violent content and detailed checklists from his devices. And yet Asa maintained she had no idea. Scott breaks down how denial functions at that scale — how the mind builds walls around information that would destroy the identity you've constructed, and what happens when a guilty plea in open court removes every remaining piece of that structure.Victoria reached a different conclusion before the plea. Scott examines what allowed the daughter to see what the wife couldn't — and what it costs both of them to carry those positions now that there's no ambiguity left. Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta adds the legal layer: what the plea means for the family practically, what the FBI cooperation requirement could produce, and whether the victims' families will ever get the full accounting a trial would have provided. Heuermann is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #ShavaunScott #BobMotta #LISK #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #TheGilgoBeachCase

Valerie Mack was born into loss. Placed in foster care as a child, adopted by the Mack family, estranged from her own son by her early twenties. She was working in Philadelphia when she vanished — and after she was found, it took twenty years for anyone to learn her name. Jessica Taylor was twenty years old, working near Port Authority in the same Midtown neighborhood where Rex Heuermann ran his architecture practice. She was the youngest of the women he was charged with killing. This look back puts them first — their lives before the case files, before the evidence, before the headlines.The forensic connections between them are devastating in their precision. Valerie's remains were found in two locations between 2000 and 2011. Jessica's were found in the same dual-location pattern — Manorville and Ocean Parkway — with years between discoveries. Tool marks on their bones matched: the same type of instrument, the same characteristics. A hair on Valerie's remains matched the DNA of Heuermann's family members. A hair beneath Jessica's remains matched his own. And the planning document recovered from his computer included preparation notes that prosecutors say corresponded to the condition of both women's remains.Heuermann pleaded guilty to both murders as part of the agreement covering seven victims, and admitted to an eighth. He is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. Valerie waited twenty years for a name. Jessica was found twice. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting. This segment says their names first, and the evidence second.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#ValerieMack #JessicaTaylor #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #ColdCase #GeneticGenealogy #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #TheGilgoBeachCase

Sandra Costilla was twenty-eight years old when her remains were found in the woods of Southampton, Long Island, in 1993. For thirty years, her case sat cold. Investigators pursued the wrong suspect. Nobody connected her death to the Gilgo Beach killings. And then DNA technology that didn't exist during her lifetime linked her to Rex Heuermann — and pushed the entire timeline of his alleged crimes back by fourteen years.This look back puts Sandra first — her life before the case file, the decades her family spent without answers, and the forensic breakthrough that finally brought her name back into the investigation. Before Sandra's connection was established, the Gilgo Beach killings were understood to have begun around 2007. Her case changed the scope of everything investigators believed about how long Heuermann had been operating.Heuermann eventually pleaded guilty to Sandra's murder along with six others, and admitted to an eighth killing as part of the agreement. He confirmed strangulation as the cause of death for each victim. The defense had tried to exclude the DNA evidence that connected him to Sandra — matched through advanced whole genome sequencing — and the judge ruled it admissible. He is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting. Sandra waited thirty years for someone to say her name in a courtroom connected to the person who took her life. This segment says it first.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SandraCostilla #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #ColdCase #DNAEvidence #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #TheGilgoBeachCase

One word. When prosecutors asked Rex Heuermann in a Riverhead courtroom how he killed eight women over seventeen years, he answered with a single word: strangulation. No emotion. No elaboration. Victims' families packed the gallery, weeping, while the man who had maintained his innocence for nearly three years matter-of-factly confirmed what investigators had spent decades trying to prove. This look back sits with that moment and everything that led to it.Heuermann pleaded guilty to seven counts of murder — three first-degree, four second-degree — and admitted to killing an eighth woman as part of the plea agreement. He said he used burner phones to lure each woman with the promise of money, strangled them in his Massapequa home, and left their remains along Ocean Parkway. His defense attorney told reporters the plea was driven by two pre-trial rulings: the admission of DNA evidence matched through whole genome sequencing — a first for a New York courtroom — and the denial of separate trials. Once both motions failed, the math changed.Defense attorney and former felony prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down what drove the plea, what the evidence looked like from both sides, and the question families are still carrying: a plea gives certainty, but does it give closure? Some waited decades for a trial that will now never come. The agreement requires Heuermann to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit — which may eventually produce answers the courtroom didn't. He's expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GuiltyPlea #EricFaddis #Strangulation #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #TheGilgoBeachCase

Melissa Barthelemy's sister answered a phone call from the man who had just killed Melissa. He described what he did. That detail emerged during the sentencing of Rex Heuermann — three consecutive life terms, a hundred years, families chanting ogre as officers removed him from the courtroom.The sentence is supposed to be the end. But inside the plea deal is a question the families can't let go of. Heuermann confessed to killing Karen Vergata during a proffer session — a woman he was never charged with. He brought her up himself. He volunteered it for credit. The judge said “eight that we know of.”The plea covers New York. Heuermann owned property in South Carolina and Nevada. Both are death penalty states. Women disappeared near those properties. If Heuermann's cooperation was designed to close the case in the one state that can't execute him while keeping the other jurisdictions quiet, the families who chanted ogre in that courtroom may not have gotten the full accounting they deserve.A look back at the most compelling stories of the week.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #Heuermann #MelissaBarthelemy #KarenVergata #SuffolkCounty #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Rex Heuermann is sentenced. Life without parole. Eight murders. It's over. So why would he agree to sit in a room with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit and walk them through what he did?Former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke says the answer is simple: information is the only currency Heuermann has left. He'll use it to stay relevant, to feel important, to maintain some sense of control from inside a cell. He'll dribble out details and try to manage the flow. The FBI has known this dynamic since Edmund Kemper told Robert Ressler in a California prison that he could rip his head off before the guards arrived. They've been navigating killer ego for fifty years.The program started in the 1970s when Ressler and John Douglas interviewed thirty-six convicted killers to build the science of criminal profiling. It produced ViCAP, the national violent crime database. It produced the interview techniques that got Samuel Little to confess to ninety-three murders. It produced the six-month cooperation that led Gary Ridgway to the remains of four women nobody had been able to find.Now the FBI wants Heuermann. Not for the eight he admitted to — that's settled. They want to know if there are more. They want to study the first digital-era serial killer who used burner phones, fifty-eight hard drives, and a written planning document to operate for nearly two decades. And they want to check what he says against the document he thought he'd deleted.Heuermann thinks the interview is his stage. The FBI has a different use for it.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #FBI #BehavioralAnalysis #LISK #SamuelLittle #GaryRidgway #ColdCase #TrueCrime

Rex Heuermann is serving life without parole for the Gilgo Beach murders. He confessed to eight killings. Seven happened in the Massapequa Park basement. He admitted it privately to Asa and Victoria before his courtroom plea. He told Victoria the victims were not real people to him.And Asa Ellerup is still talking to him. Still visiting. Still managing the relationship on his terms. The Peacock documentary captured phone calls where Rex directed the family from his cell, insulted Asa and Victoria's ability to communicate, and still ran the room. And Asa's response on camera — what she said about those calls and what she will not say to Rex — tells you who this version of Rex actually serves.She was adopted and never bonded with her family. She was assaulted as a teenager. Her first marriage collapsed. Then Rex showed up and built the only stable world she'd ever known. That world is still standing. She just remodeled it.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeachKiller #TrueCrime #GilgoBeachCase #TrueCrimePodcast #GilgoBeachMurders #SerialKiller #TrueCrimeCommunity

Rex Heuermann sat across from Asa Ellerup and told her he killed eight women. Seven in their basement. He described the dismemberments. She filed for divorce to keep the house. Then she gutted the basement, put down new floors, hung a cross on the wall, arranged stuffed animals on the shelves, and moved in. She sleeps there. She has visited Rex in jail approximately twelve times since the confession. She told Peacock cameras she wants to understand his triggers.The audience has a simpler question: why? Why does someone keep going back to the man who confessed to serial murder? Why does the family reportedly collect seven figures from a documentary while a victim's son — who was six years old when his mother was killed — files a lawsuit alleging they knew? Why does Victoria say she believes her father most likely did it while Asa maintains a relationship with him?Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent and former chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, addresses each question directly. He walks through what loyalty after confession actually looks like in behavioral terms, where the line between trauma and complicity gets tested, and what the DNA evidence found on all seven victims tells us about proximity. Listener-driven. Every question grounded in the documented record.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeach #KillRoom #VictoriaHeuermann #SonOfSamLaw #RobinDreeke #FBI #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

Amanda Funderburg stood in a Suffolk County courtroom and addressed the man who killed her sister, Melissa Barthelemy. She told the court about a phone call. A call Heuermann made to her after the murder. What he said on that call is not something you forget.Heuermann was sentenced to consecutive life terms. Judge Mazzei was visibly emotional. He asked Heuermann if he was sorry. Called him a disgusting, despicable small man and a coward. Ordered him removed from the courtroom as the families chanted ogre.That sentencing closed one chapter. The cooperation agreement opens another. Heuermann will sit with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit and describe everything — how he chose his victims, how he killed them, how he maintained a Manhattan career and a suburban family for seventeen years while the bodies accumulated near Gilgo Beach. His defense attorney says he is required to be truthful, accurate, and complete. Former FBI agents say the chances he stopped at eight are limited to none. Jennifer Coffindaffer, contributor to Hidden Killers, explains why Funderburg's testimony matters to the BAU and what the cooperation sessions may reveal beyond the eight confirmed victims.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #AmandaFunderburg #MelissaBarthelemy #FBI #BAU #JudgeMazzei #Sentencing #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

He answered for eight murders. He did not answer for Karen Vergata's — even though he confessed to it in the same courtroom. He did not answer for the civil conspiracy his ex-wife now faces. And he did not answer for the women who disappeared near his properties in states that can execute him.Rex Heuermann's sentencing gave the Gilgo Beach families a moment they earned. Three consecutive life sentences. A hundred years. A judge who said he was disgusting and ordered officers to remove him. It was the ending the case needed. It was not the ending the case got.The plea deal contains an uncharged murder confession, an abandoned appeal, and an FBI interview labeled “academic.” Melissa Barthelemy's sister put the phone call on the record — Heuermann calling from Melissa's phone after killing her, describing what he had done. That testimony exists in the official transcript.Asa Ellerup is facing a wrongful death lawsuit. She reportedly made over a million dollars from a documentary. She said on camera she did what she had to do to protect herself. She lives in the house. She sleeps in the basement.And the map keeps expanding. Four lots in Chester, South Carolina. A timeshare in Las Vegas. Missing women near both. The judge chose his words: eight that we know of. South Carolina has the death penalty. Nevada has the death penalty. Heuermann's New York plea deal provides no cover in either.Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis covers the full scope: sentencing mechanics, civil conspiracy against Asa, and multi-state exposure. Everything the plea deal resolved — and everything it did not.Eight murders. Three life sentences. And the case is still growing.END LINKS:Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimer:This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #RexHeuermanChannel #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeachMurders #TrueCrime #EricFaddis #KarenVergata #DeathPenalty #SerialKiller

According to reporting, Rex Heuermann sat in his cell at the Riverhead Correctional Facility six weeks after his arrest and wrote a letter. Not to a friend. Not to family. To Keith Hunter Jesperson — the Happy Face Killer — a man convicted of killing at least eight women during the 1990s.And one of the things the Gilgo Beach killer reportedly wanted to know? Whether Jesperson had butter for his bread in prison.The LISK — the man who admitted to strangling eight women and scattering their remains across Long Island — settling into jail life by asking another serial killer about food. According to those who've seen the letter, Heuermann's tone was calm. Settled. He wrote that he'd been doing “a lot” of thinking. He reportedly called Jesperson's letters “a help and a comfort.”Jesperson had reportedly urged Heuermann to confess and take a plea. Heuermann ignored the advice for nearly three years — and then did exactly that when he pleaded guilty in April 2026 to seven murders and admitted killing an eighth.I break down the full content of that letter, the psychology of why Jesperson reached out, why he then forwarded Heuermann's response to a podcaster, and what forensic research tells us about why killers seek each other out. I also cover Heuermann's jail reading list — crime novel after crime novel about serial killers — and what Sheriff Toulon said after watching him for over a thousand days without seeing a single change in the man's expression.The families' attorney called them both what they are: losers and cowards who chose the most vulnerable people they could find.Links:Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimer:This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #LISK #GilgoBeachKiller #HappyFaceKiller #LongIslandSerialKiller #SerialKillerLetters #RexHeuermannsLetter #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Missing women. In more than one state. Near property Rex Heuermann purchased during the same years he was killing on Long Island.That is the piece of the Gilgo Beach case that did not end with the sentencing. Heuermann pleaded guilty to eight murders in Suffolk County. He received three consecutive life terms plus a hundred years. He waived his appeal. The New York case is legally finished. But the judge made a point of saying it out loud: eight that we know of.Four lots in Chester, South Carolina. A woman who disappeared twenty miles away. A timeshare in Las Vegas. An escort who vanished two weeks after the purchase. Heuermann's property footprint traces across states that carry sentencing options New York does not have.South Carolina has the death penalty. Nevada has the death penalty. Heuermann's plea deal provides no protection outside Suffolk County. If another jurisdiction develops probable cause, they prosecute independently — and they are not limited to life sentences.Investigators have been working through a hundred and twenty terabytes of data recovered from his devices. A planning document Heuermann thought he had deleted was recovered and has been central to the New York case. Seven thousand pages of supporting material. If evidence of crimes in other states exists in that archive, the legal questions are about access, jurisdiction, and cooperation between agencies that do not always share well.Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis assesses the realistic odds. What does it take to build a case from property records and timelines? Can the FBI interview produce usable leads for other states? And what reason does a man with no appeal and no possibility of release have to tell anyone the truth?Seventeen years. Multiple states. The same pattern. Eight is a floor, not a ceiling.END LINKS:Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimer:This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #RexHeuermanChannel #GilgoBeachMurders #TrueCrime #EricFaddis #DeathPenalty #SouthCarolina #SerialKiller #MissingWomen

She did a documentary. She reportedly collected over a million dollars for it. And while she was talking to cameras about nightmares in the basement, the families of Rex Heuermann's victims were preparing a lawsuit that calls her a co-conspirator.Asa Ellerup is named in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Valerie Mack's son. So is her daughter Victoria. So is Rex Heuermann. The allegation is civil conspiracy — that Asa knew or deliberately avoided knowing what was happening inside the house she shared with a serial killer for twenty-seven years, and that she helped conceal it.This is not a criminal charge. The DA's office already cleared her. But a civil case does not need proof beyond a reasonable doubt. It needs a preponderance of evidence — more likely than not. And in that framework, the evidence prosecutors dismissed takes on different weight.Her hair was on the victims. Prosecutors said transference. She said on camera she did what she had to do to protect herself and her children. She renovated the basement where investigators say seven murders occurred and sleeps there. The lawsuit calls the documentary money unjust enrichment — profiting from the murders that destroyed the plaintiffs' families.Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down whether civil conspiracy sticks when the criminal investigation already cleared her, what the documentary payout means legally, and whether the endgame is not a verdict but a deposition — Asa Ellerup, under oath, answering twenty-seven years of questions for the first time.The criminal case is finished. The civil case is asking the questions the criminal case never did.END LINKS:Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimer:This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#GilgoBeach #AsaEllerup #RexHeuermanChannel #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachMurders #TrueCrime #EricFaddis #ValerieMack #CivilLawsuit #SerialKiller

Melissa Barthelemy's sister answered a call from Melissa's phone. The voice on the other end was Rex Heuermann's. He described what he had done to Melissa's body.That testimony was delivered during Heuermann's Gilgo Beach sentencing — and it may be the single most consequential moment from a proceeding that was supposed to close the case.The sentencing gave the families what they came for. The judge handed down three consecutive life sentences plus a hundred years. He called Heuermann disgusting, a coward, not a man at all. Officers removed him. Families chanted. It was the scene everyone needed to see.But the plea deal underneath that scene is a different document than the one most people understand. Heuermann confessed to killing Karen Vergata in open court — and no charge was filed. Her family watched him say her name. His defense team had spent three years fighting to suppress the DNA and challenge the search warrants before he signed away his appeal rights in the agreement. And the FBI interview negotiated as part of the plea carries a label — “academic, not investigative” — that defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis finds worth examining closely.Faddis breaks down the sentencing from the inside. What Heuermann traded for the deal. Why the Karen Vergata confession sits on the record without a charge. Whether the phone call testimony from Melissa's sister opens a legal door that did not exist before the sentencing. And what it means that a man serving three life terms with no appeal still agreed to sit down with the FBI.The courtroom closed one chapter. The plea deal may have started another.END LINKS:Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimer:This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #RexHeuermanChannel #GilgoBeachMurders #TrueCrime #EricFaddis #KarenVergata #MelissaBarthelemy #SuffolkCounty #SerialKiller

Rex Heuermann told Asa Ellerup he killed eight women. Seven of them in the basement. She called him Mr. Heuermann during the conversation. Then she gutted that basement, rebuilt it from the studs, and moved into it. She sleeps there. She says the dreams follow her every night. She says they always will.She chose not to attend sentencing. Her daughter says she believes Rex most likely did it. A victim's son who was six years old when his mother was murdered has filed a lawsuit alleging the family knew or looked away. The community wants the house demolished. Asa will not go.This is the full three-part conversation between psychotherapist Shavaun Scott and Tony Brueski — covering the confession that ended twenty-seven years of marriage, the double life that sustained seventeen years of murder, and the impossible position Asa is in now. Every detail verified. Every question grounded in reporting from the Peacock documentary, the guilty plea, and the wrongful death lawsuit. If you have been following this case, this is the conversation that puts it all in one place.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #HiddenKillers #VictoriaHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #ShavaunScott #TrueCrime #PeacockDocumentary #Sentencing

Asa Ellerup and her daughter Victoria reportedly received over a million dollars for their participation in the Peacock documentary The Gilgo Beach Killer: House of Secrets. They gave the cameras access to the Massapequa Park house. They walked through the basement. They talked about their memories and their doubts and their grief on a platform watched by millions of people — while Valerie Mack's son was preparing a lawsuit that would name them as defendants.Benjamin Torres was six when his mother was killed. His lawsuit alleges Asa and Victoria knew or deliberately avoided knowing what was happening inside that house. Asa's attorney has denied any involvement. Prosecutors have said the murders happened when the family was away.Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony Brueski to address the question that has followed the Ellerup family since the documentary aired — why a family in the worst crisis imaginable would invite cameras into their home. Whether that decision was about money, narrative control, processing, or some combination nobody on the outside can untangle. And what the clinical difference is between someone who genuinely did not know and someone whose mind chose not to look.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #HiddenKillers #VictoriaHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #PeacockDocumentary #ShavaunScott #TrueCrime #ValerieMack

He faced the DA and answered every question in one or two words. Strangulation. Yes. Eight. He did not turn around to look at the families of the women he killed. He did not look at his own daughter. He stood with his hands shackled behind his back in a dark suit and gave the courtroom nothing.Rex Heuermann maintained a double life for seventeen years — suburban architect and father on one side, serial murderer on the other. He planned each killing for when his wife and children were out of town. His attorney described the plea as a huge relief. A friend said he was always respectful to women.Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony Brueski for a conversation about what the courtroom presentation reveals about someone who has compartmentalized violence for that long. Whether the refusal to look at the gallery is control, indifference, or something the clinical literature has a name for. And whether a mind that walled itself off for two decades can provide useful information to the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit, which Heuermann is now required to cooperate with as part of his plea deal.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillers #GilgoBeachKiller #ShavaunScott #TrueCrime #GuiltyPlea #SerialKillerPsychology #Compartmentalization #Sentencing

Victoria Heuermann said it on camera: while we were having fun on vacation, he was home murdering and dismembering women here. She has told documentary producers she now believes her father most likely committed the Gilgo Beach murders. She got to that conclusion after years of publicly standing beside her mother, walking into the house, going down into the basement, and trying to square the father she admired with the man prosecutors described.Her mother Asa has not arrived at the same place. After a jailhouse visit where Heuermann confessed to eight killings — seven in the family basement — Asa's attorney said he does not know if she will ever believe the man she knew was capable of this. The split between mother and daughter is the psychological center of this case now.Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony Brueski to discuss what it does to a person when every family vacation, every holiday, every memory gets reprocessed through the knowledge that while you were gone, he was killing. And why Victoria's willingness to say it out loud may be the most important thing anyone in that family has done.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #VictoriaHeuermann #HiddenKillers #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #ShavaunScott #TrueCrime #SerialKillerDaughter #PeacockDocumentary

For three years after his arrest, Asa Ellerup defended Rex Heuermann on camera. She called him a family man. She said they had the wrong man. Then on April 8, 2026, he pleaded guilty to eight murders — seven inside their home. He told Asa directly. Twenty-seven years inside that house. The same meals. The same routines. The same man — who was living an entirely different life.He told her seven of the eight murders happened inside the home they shared for 27 years. Their daughter broke down in tears in the courtroom. How does a person go from “you have the wrong man” to accepting that the person she called her hero confessed to being a serial killer? Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott says the answer is more complicated than yes or no — and that the mechanism behind it has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with how agency erodes so slowly that confronting reality becomes psychologically impossible.Scott recently wrote about this on her Substack, Spotlight on Psychology. In this conversation with Tony Brueski, she pairs the Ellerup case with Eric Richins — a man who saw the danger completely and still could not leave — to examine both sides of the same coin. The psychology underneath extends far beyond serial killers.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#AsaEllerup #RexHeuermann #EricRichins #KouriRichins #GilgoBeach #DomesticViolence #ShavaunScott #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #ErosionOfAgency

Asa Ellerup sat across from the man she was married to for decades and heard him say he killed eight women — most of them inside their home. She asked about dismemberment. He told her yes. She walked out of that jailhouse, told a camera crew she still believes he loved her, and moved back into the house where it happened. Into the room where it happened.This week's review brings together the most powerful Gilgo Beach conversations — the ones that went beyond the courtroom and into the wreckage left behind.Victoria Heuermann visited her father and asked the questions nobody else could. Did you think about me while you were doing this? No. Did you see them as people? No. Victoria said she forgives him — not because the answers were acceptable, but because carrying the rage would destroy her. She's the daughter of a man who described a four-day kill cycle with clinical precision and told a therapist he cannot connect the person he is to the person in the evidence. She didn't choose this. None of the families did.The families of the eight women Heuermann confessed to killing sat in that Suffolk County courtroom and listened to him describe how he met, strangled, and disposed of each victim. Some wept. Some stared. They've waited years — in some cases over a decade — for answers, and what they got was a negotiated plea that also quietly resolved the Karen Vergata case without a separate hearing and included a cooperation agreement that reportedly can't be enforced.Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott walks through every psychological dimension — Asa's denial architecture, Victoria's survival-driven forgiveness, and what Heuermann's emotional flatness tells us about who he actually is beneath the confession. The plea may be done. The damage isn't close to finished.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #SerialKiller #SuffolkCounty #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Rex Heuermann set the terms of his own confession. Before he stood in a Suffolk County courtroom and pleaded guilty to murdering eight women, he arranged private jailhouse meetings with his ex-wife and his daughter. He chose the order. He chose the setting. He decided what they would hear and how they would hear it. Even in the act of admitting to being the Gilgo Beach serial killer, Rex was orchestrating the experience. The Peacock documentary captured what happened in the aftermath of those meetings — Asa Ellerup walking out and saying she believes Rex loved her, Victoria Heuermann forgiving her father almost immediately, and both women returning to the house where seven of the eight murders were committed. It also captured something the public has never seen — extended therapy sessions where Rex described the mechanics of his killing in clinical detail. The four-day cycle. The stopwatch-timed body dumps. The childhood bedroom converted to a kill room. The claim that he can't connect the person in the crime scene photos to himself. And alongside it, John Douglas's assessment that Rex is a malignant narcissistic sadistic psychopath who likely has hidden victims in states where he faces death penalty exposure. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me for a comprehensive three-part series analyzing every person at the center of this case. Asa's psychology. Victoria's reckoning. Rex's mind. No angles left unexamined. This is the definitive psychological breakdown of the Heuermann family — and of the documentary that exposed them to the world.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #LISK #GilgoBeachKiller #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #HouseOfSecrets #ShavaunScott

John Douglas looked at the full picture of Rex Heuermann — the four-day kill cycle, the stopwatch-timed body dumps, the kill room in his childhood bedroom, the planning document that referenced Douglas's own book — and delivered an assessment that should keep investigators working this case for years. He said Rex is a malignant narcissistic sadistic psychopathic serial killer. He said he doesn't believe Rex started killing at thirty. And he raised the specter of death penalty exposure in states like South Carolina, where Rex owned property and where investigators have been looking at missing persons cases that could be connected. Douglas compared Rex to Dennis Rader — BTK — and said something striking. He said Rader would be jealous of Rex. Because Rader had the fantasy of keeping a victim in a room, of having total control in a contained space. But Rader never had the room. Rex did. Rex had the space, the privacy, the time when his family was out of state, and the methodical precision to carry out every element of the fantasy that most serial killers only imagine. The documentary also revealed that Rex told his daughter the planning document was created as a way to try to curb the urge — that if he put it on paper, maybe he wouldn't need to act it out. That claim doesn't hold up against the timeline. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me to analyze the full psychological profile of Rex Heuermann as revealed by the documentary and Douglas's assessment — the gap between confession and truth, the narcissism that's still operating even after the plea, and whether Rex Heuermann will ever stop controlling this narrative.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #LISK #GilgoBeachKiller #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #HouseOfSecrets #SerialKiller #ShavaunScott #JohnDouglas

Rex Heuermann asked to confess to his daughter before he confessed to the world. That was one of his conditions for taking the plea — private meetings with Victoria and Asa before the public allocution. He wanted to control how his family heard the truth. Even in confession, Rex was managing the narrative. Victoria walked into that jailhouse room and saw her father handcuffed to a chair. She said he looked nervous — the first time she'd ever seen him that way. She called him Dad. She asked how many women he killed. He said eight. She asked if any were killed in the house. He said yes — all except one. He said Sandra Costilla was killed in the Dodge Ram Charger that Victoria rode in as a child. He told her about the planning document. He said he took two photos during the killings and destroyed them. He said he didn't see the victims as human. And when Victoria asked if he ever thought about her while he was doing it, he said no. The two worlds never crossed. Victoria took all of that in. And then she said she forgives him. She said she can't move forward unless she does. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me to analyze what Rex's private confession to his daughter reveals about the psychology of both father and child — why Rex needed to control how Victoria learned the truth, what his carefully managed disclosure tells us about the narcissism that drives him, and how Victoria's response reflects a young woman navigating an emotional landscape that has no roadmap and no precedent.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#VictoriaHeuermann #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #LISK #GilgoBeachKiller #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #HouseOfSecrets #SerialKillerDaughter #ShavaunScott

Rex Heuermann didn't just hide what he was from his ex-wife — he built the world she lived in. Every wall. Every doorway. Every belief she held about who he was and what their life meant. And then he filled that world with a version of himself that made the real Rex invisible. The Peacock documentary revealed how total that control was. The family therapist described a dynamic where anything Rex told Asa became her operating reality. When he said he was innocent, that wasn't just something she believed — it became the only truth her mind could process. Evidence didn't matter. Investigators didn't matter. DNA didn't matter. Rex said he didn't do it, so he didn't do it. That's not stubbornness. That's not loyalty. That's the end result of a man who found a woman with no psychological foundation and poured himself into every crack until he was the only thing holding her together. Asa was adopted and never bonded with her family. She was assaulted at sixteen. She attempted to end her life. Rex saw all of that — and whether consciously or not, he used it. He became her safety. Her anchor. The one person in her entire life who made the chaos stop. And he did it while killing women in the basement of their home. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me to analyze the specific control dynamics Rex Heuermann exerted over Asa — how he maintained a double life not through elaborate deception but through the psychological architecture of the relationship itself, and what the documentary reveals about whether Asa can ever fully separate from the man who defined her existence for three decades.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #AsaEllerup #LISK #GilgoBeachKiller #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #HouseOfSecrets #SerialKiller #ShavaunScott

Before Rex Heuermann stood in Suffolk County Court and pleaded guilty to the Gilgo Beach murders, he was given something almost unheard of — a private meeting with his ex-wife Asa Ellerup and their daughter Victoria to confess to them first. The final episode of the Peacock docuseries House of Secrets captures both women recounting that meeting. And what they describe goes to places the courtroom allocution never went.Asa called him Mr. Heuermann. She asked how many women he killed. He said eight. He told her seven died in the basement of their Massapequa Park home while she and the children were away. He told her one was killed in his vehicle. He said every murder except the first was planned. Victoria asked if he ever saw his victims as human beings. He told her he didn't.But the confession is only half of this story. The other half is what Asa did with it. She visited him twelve times after that conversation. She went home and gutted the basement — new floors, new walls, new everything — and moved into it. She sleeps every night in the room where Heuermann says he killed. She told the cameras it's spiritual. She says she's apologizing to the victims. And on recorded phone calls, Heuermann still calls her "dear" and she still smiles at the sound of his voice.I go through every detail — the confession, Victoria's account, the murder that allegedly happened days before Rex and Asa's destination wedding, the crime scene book found on the kitchen table, and what Asa's transformation from defender to basement dweller reveals about what three decades of unknowing trust does to a person when the truth finally arrives.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #LISK #AsaEllerup #GilgoBeachKiller #HouseOfSecrets #VictoriaHeuermann #KarenVergata #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime

Rex Heuermann married Asa Ellerup in April 1996. According to the Suffolk County DA, he also strangled and dismembered Karen Vergata that same month. He admitted to it in open court during his guilty plea — an eighth killing he was never formally charged with. The confession was part of the deal: admit to Karen's murder, never face prosecution for it. Seven indictments. One admission. Eight women dead.The final episode of “The Seven.” Karen Vergata was 34, living in Hell's Kitchen, working as an escort, battling addiction. Her sons had been taken by child welfare services four years earlier. She called her father on Valentine's Day 1996 — his birthday — from behind bars. That was the last time anyone in her family heard from her. Weeks after the alleged killing, her legs were found in a garbage bag on Fire Island by two brothers searching for driftwood. She became Fire Island Jane Doe. Her skull was found near Gilgo Beach in 2011. She was Jane Doe Number Seven until genetic genealogy identified her in 2022.Her father Dominic searched for decades. Hired a PI. Was turned away by the NYPD when he tried to report her missing. Filed to have her declared dead. Was told in October 2022 that his daughter had been identified. Died two months later at 87. Never saw accountability.Karen's case fills the gap between Sandra Costilla (1993) and Valerie Mack (2000), and adds Fire Island as a new dump site — expanding the geography of Heuermann's admitted crimes beyond Manorville, Ocean Parkway, and Southampton. As part of the plea, Heuermann agreed to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. His attorney said the plea brought his client a “sense of relief.” Karen's full story, the evidence trail, and what it means to be the uncharged name in an eight-victim confession — all covered here.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#KarenVergata #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #LISK #FireIsland #JaneDoe #GilgoBeachKiller #LongIslandSerialKiller #TheSeven #TrueCrime

Benjamin Torres was six years old when his mother disappeared. Valerie Mack vanished in 2000. Her dismembered remains were found in Manorville that same year — unidentified for twenty years. Rex Heuermann has now pleaded guilty to her murder. For Torres, the guilty plea wasn't the ending. It was permission to start.His wrongful death lawsuit names Heuermann, ex-wife Asa Ellerup, and their daughter Victoria. The complaint alleges the two women knew about or concealed the crimes, had access to a secured vault-like room in the basement of the Massapequa Park home, and collected over a million dollars from a Peacock documentary. Attorney John Ray has argued publicly that unawareness is implausible in a house of roughly 1,300 square feet. Hair evidence linked to both women was recovered from victims' remains. The defense has called the suit reckless. Victoria was approximately three when Mack was killed. Prosecutors maintain Heuermann acted alone and timed the killings for when the family was away. Neither woman has been charged.Asa called Heuermann her savior and maintained she would have known if something was wrong. Victoria sat in the courtroom during the plea and has publicly said she believes her father most likely committed the killings. One roof. Two women. Opposite conclusions about the man they both lived with. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examines how denial functions when identity is anchored to a single person — how the mind builds walls to protect the framework, and what a guilty plea does when those walls can no longer hold.Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta breaks down what Heuermann actually gained from pleading. Every pre-trial motion had been denied. Whole genome sequencing was admitted in a New York courtroom for the first time. A deleted planning document was pulled from his hard drive. The sentence was reportedly the same either way — life without parole. Karen Vergata's uncharged killing was folded into the deal without a separate prosecution or public evidence hearing. The FBI cooperation agreement reportedly carries no enforcement mechanism. Heuermann's attorney insists there are no additional victims. The DA's office is reviewing hundreds of Suffolk County cold cases. The criminal chapter is closed. The civil case — and the question of whether proximity to a serial killer can become its own form of liability — is just getting started.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #ValerieMack #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #LISK #WrongfulDeath #ShavaunScott #BobMotta #HiddenKillers

One thousand days of maintaining his innocence. Tears on day one. Calm, controlled execution on day one thousand. Rex Heuermann didn't just plead guilty — he managed the terms. Every pre-trial ruling had gone against his defense. Whole genome sequencing was ruled admissible. All charges were consolidated. Trial was months away with no viable path to acquittal. So the man who spent decades planning how to avoid detection planned his exit from the courtroom the same way.During a confidential proffer session, Heuermann raised Karen Vergata himself — a woman he had never been charged with killing. Her death was absorbed into the deal. No separate prosecution. No public evidence hearing. The agreement bars further charges related to all eight victims and includes FBI Behavioral Analysis cooperation that reportedly has no enforcement teeth. His attorney insists there are no additional victims. The DA's office says it's reviewing hundreds of Suffolk County cold cases. Sentencing is set for June.The families packed that courtroom. They wept as Heuermann described strangling each woman. And for Benjamin Torres — Valerie Mack's son, six years old when she disappeared — the plea was a beginning. Torres filed a wrongful death lawsuit naming Heuermann, his ex-wife Asa Ellerup, and their daughter Victoria. The complaint alleges knowledge, concealment, and profit — over a million dollars from a Peacock documentary. Ellerup publicly called Heuermann her hero. Victoria later acknowledged she believes her father most likely committed the killings, but the complaint alleges she characterized the crimes in a way that declined to condemn them.The defense response is pointed. Victoria was approximately three when Mack was killed. Prosecutors have publicly stated the family was out of town during the murders. Neither woman has been charged. But hair linked to both was found on victims' remains. Prosecutors call it household transference. The plaintiff's attorney calls it something else entirely. This lawsuit asks whether a family can be held civilly liable for what they should have known, whether documentary money can be clawed back as unjust enrichment, and whether wrongful death claims survive decades past the statute of limitations. The criminal chapter may be closed. The civil one just opened.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #ValerieMack #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #GuiltyPlea #WrongfulDeath #KarenVergata #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

For five weeks after Melissa Barthelemy disappeared, someone used her phone to call her 15-year-old sister Amanda. The calls came from crowded Manhattan sidewalks. They lasted under three minutes. They described what had been done to Melissa. And they were aimed exclusively at the teenager — never the mother. A burner phone Melissa had connected with the day she vanished traveled from Massapequa Park to Midtown Manhattan, matching the route between Rex Heuermann's home and office. Hours later, Melissa's own phone traced that path in reverse.Melissa was 24. She'd earned her cosmetology license in Buffalo and moved to New York to build something. The salon work was slow. She ended up in a Bronx basement apartment working escort ads on Craigslist. On July 12, 2009, she told a friend she was going to meet a man. Nobody heard from her again. Prosecutors allege Heuermann searched online for images of the victims' families after the killings — their sisters, their children.The family Heuermann went home to is now caught in the wreckage. Asa Ellerup sat in the back of the courtroom as her ex-husband admitted to eight killings. The woman who once called him her hero walked out into a wrongful death lawsuit filed by the son of victim Valerie Mack, naming both Asa and their daughter Victoria as defendants. The suit alleges the family profited from a documentary and showed disregard for victims. Victoria has publicly stated she believes her father most likely committed the killings. Asa's attorney has called the claims reckless. One family, two completely different reckonings with the same unbearable truth.Robin Dreeke and Eric Faddis break down what the phone calls reveal about the psychology of control, the legal exposure the family now faces, and how people closest to a serial offender attempt to rebuild after a confession.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #MelissaBarthelemy #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #LISK #TauntingCalls #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #WrongfulDeath

He ate pizza on a Manhattan sidewalk and threw the crust in a public trash can. Investigators were watching. That discarded crust — legally recovered as an abandonment sample — carried DNA that matched a male hair found in the burlap wrapping around Megan Waterman's body on Ocean Parkway. Months of surveillance, one piece of garbage, and the entire Gilgo Beach case broke open.Megan was 22. A mother from Scarborough, Maine, who called her three-year-old daughter every single day. When those daily calls stopped in June 2010, her family reported her missing within two days. Surveillance footage from the Holiday Inn Express in Hauppauge captured her walking out the door at 1:15 a.m. to meet a client. She was found six months later alongside Melissa Barthelemy, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, and Amber Lynn Costello — the Gilgo Four.Rex Heuermann stood in a Suffolk County courtroom and pleaded guilty to murdering all seven women he was charged with killing — Barthelemy, Brainard-Barnes, Costello, Sandra Costilla, Valerie Mack, Jessica Taylor, and Waterman. He also admitted to intentionally causing the death of Karen Vergata, an eighth victim. He confirmed all eight were killed by strangulation. Prosecutors allege his electronic devices held checklists, methodology notes, and instructions for destroying evidence — a digital blueprint stored in a home he shared with his family. Every killing allegedly took place when his wife and children were away.His attorney described the plea as "relief." The deal requires Heuermann to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. This week's coverage walks through Megan's life before she became a case file, the DNA chain that made the prosecution's case, the mechanics of the plea deal, and expert analysis from Robin Dreeke and Eric Faddis on what the behavioral evidence tells us about who Heuermann actually is.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #MeganWaterman #GuiltyPlea #GilgoFour #LISK #DNAEvidence #BehavioralAnalysis #HiddenKillers #SerialKiller

Rex Heuermann said it himself. In a packed courtroom, he admitted to strangling eight women over seventeen years. He confirmed the murders. He confirmed the dismemberment. He showed no emotion. And Asa Ellerup was sitting in the back of the room while he did it.For years, she said she did not believe it. She called him her savior. She dismissed the planning document. She described the hair evidence — her own hair, found on multiple victims — as circumstantial. She said she would need to hear it from him directly.She heard it. Now a wrongful death lawsuit is asking whether she should have heard it decades earlier.The son of Valerie Mack — who was six years old when his mother disappeared and was allegedly murdered by Heuermann in 2000 — has filed suit against Heuermann, Ellerup, and their daughter Victoria. The complaint alleges they either knew, concealed the truth, or deliberately looked away. It also goes after the money: a reported million-dollar payment from a Peacock documentary about the case.Ellerup's attorney says she had no knowledge and no involvement. Prosecutors have confirmed she was away each time a murder occurred. But the civil question is different from the criminal one. A jury will not need proof beyond reasonable doubt. They will weigh whether a woman who shared roughly 1,300 square feet with a man who killed eight people — a home with a secured basement room behind a metal door — could have lived there for nearly three decades and genuinely missed everything. Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis examines which side has the stronger argument and what tips the balance.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#AsaEllerup #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #CivilLawsuit #ValerieMack #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #GuiltyPlea #SerialKillerSpouse #EricFaddis

Rex Heuermann admitted to killing Valerie Mack in open court. He pleaded guilty to murdering seven women along the Gilgo Beach corridor and confessed to killing an eighth. For the families of the victims, the guilty plea brought a measure of closure that decades of investigation could not. But for Benjamin Torres — Valerie Mack's son, who was six years old when she disappeared — the guilty plea became the foundation for a new legal fight.Torres has filed a civil lawsuit in Suffolk County Supreme Court naming Heuermann, his ex-wife Asa Ellerup, and their daughter Victoria Heuermann. The complaint alleges the two women knew of or deliberately avoided learning about the murders, had access to a secured vault-like room in the basement of the Massapequa Park home, and collected over a million dollars through documentary and media agreements with Peacock. It accuses them of unjust enrichment, civil conspiracy, and concealment — among other causes of action.The defense position is straightforward and aggressive. Ellerup's attorney has called the filing reckless and unsupported by any evidence. He's pointed to the fact that prosecutors themselves have said the family was away during the killings, that Victoria was approximately three years old when Mack was killed, and that law enforcement never charged either woman after an exhaustive investigation. The statute of limitations for wrongful death in New York is generally two years — and Mack was killed over two decades before this suit was filed.I go deep into the specific allegations, the legal defenses available, how the hair evidence is being interpreted by both sides, and where this case is likely headed. Whether this lawsuit survives its first legal challenge could determine whether other victims' families follow with filings of their own.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LISK #RexHeuermann #AsaEllerup #ValerieMack #GilgoBeach #VictoriaHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

They packed the courtroom — the mothers, the sisters, the partners, the friends who spent years wondering and waiting and hoping that someone would be held accountable for the women they lost. Some had been waiting since the 2000s. Some since 2010, when the first four sets of remains were found wrapped in burlap along an isolated stretch of Ocean Parkway. And on April 8, in a hearing that lasted roughly thirty minutes, Rex Heuermann gave them the one thing he'd refused to give for nearly three years — the truth.Sandra Costilla. Valerie Mack. Jessica Taylor. Maureen Brainard-Barnes. Melissa Barthelemy. Megan Waterman. Amber Costello. Karen Vergata. Eight women. Eight lives ended by the same man over seventeen years. He described how he met them. How he strangled them. How he disposed of their remains across Long Island.Elizabeth Baczkiel, the mother of Jessica Taylor, said the plea took a weight off her family. Missy Cann, whose sister Maureen Brainard-Barnes was killed, said it brought solace after nineteen years of living between heartbreak and hope. The families were given a choice — accept the plea or push for trial. They chose the admission. They chose finality over the uncertainty of a courtroom proceeding.But finality comes with trade-offs. There will be no trial where every piece of evidence is laid out. No public cross-examination. No moment where a jury decides whether the prosecution's case held. The plea sealed the record on what happened in that proffer session. It protected Heuermann from further prosecution on any named victim. And it left the families of women who haven't been identified yet with the same unanswered questions they've carried for years. Heuermann's attorney says there are no other victims. The investigation hasn't stopped. And the question of whether eight is the real number belongs to the families who are still waiting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #GuiltyPlea #Justice #Victims #KarenVergata #SuffolkCounty #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Benjamin Torres never got to grow up with his mother. Valerie Mack disappeared when he was six years old. Her partial remains — dismembered, decapitated, hands severed — were found in Manorville that same year. Nobody knew who she was. For twenty years, she was listed as an unidentified woman. Torres spent his entire childhood, his adolescence, and most of his adult life without knowing what happened to her, without anyone being held accountable, and without a single person in the system telling him his mother's name had been attached to the remains found in those woods.Rex Heuermann has now pleaded guilty to killing her. That admission gives Torres something he never had — confirmation. But it doesn't give him everything. And that's why he filed a lawsuit that goes beyond the man who strangled his mother.The complaint names Asa Ellerup and Victoria Heuermann. It accuses them of knowing about the murders, of concealing what was happening inside the home, and of collecting over a million dollars from a documentary about the killings while showing what the lawsuit calls callous disregard for the families left behind. The defense calls it baseless. They say the family cooperated with law enforcement from the beginning. They say Victoria was approximately three years old when Mack was killed. They say prosecutors have never pointed the finger at either woman.Those are facts worth weighing. But so is the fact that a six-year-old boy lost his mother to a man who dismembered her body and hid the pieces across Long Island — and the people closest to that man collected a documentary payday while the victims' families were still burying what was left. Torres wants accountability beyond the guilty plea. Whether the court gives him that is a question the legal system will answer. But the question of who profited and who suffered is one the public is already asking.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #ValerieMack #BenjaminTorres #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #WrongfulDeath #Justice #HiddenKillers

Sandra Costilla was 28 years old when her body was found in the woods of Southampton, Long Island, in 1993. For three decades, nobody connected her death to the Gilgo Beach case. Investigators looked at the wrong suspect for years. Meanwhile, according to prosecutors, the man whose DNA was allegedly on her body was living undisturbed — building a career, raising a family, and allegedly killing other women for nearly two more decades after Sandra was gone.Rex Heuermann pled guilty to her murder. He pled guilty to murdering six other women. He admitted to killing an eighth victim — Karen Vergata. Life without parole. No trial. After nearly three years of fighting every piece of evidence, challenging the DNA, filing motion after motion, and losing each one — he stood in Suffolk County Court and admitted to all of it.Sandra's case changed everything about the timeline. Before prosecutors linked her to Heuermann, the Gilgo Beach killings were understood to have begun in 2007. Sandra pushes it back by 14 years. The DNA evidence that connected Heuermann to her was matched through technology that didn't exist during her lifetime. The defense tried to get it thrown out. The judge ruled it admissible. That ruling may have been the moment the defense knew there was nowhere left to go.Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer examines what the plea means for the families — what it provides, what it takes away, and what remains unresolved along the Gilgo Beach corridor where additional remains were found beyond the victims Heuermann was charged with killing. Heuermann has agreed to cooperate with the FBI going forward. But cooperation doesn't answer every question. It doesn't replace the trial these families were preparing to sit through. And it doesn't give Sandra Costilla back the three decades she spent as an unconnected case file while the man who allegedly killed her lived freely on the same island where her body was found.This is Episode 1 of "The Seven." One victim per episode. Their story first. The evidence second. Sandra waited the longest. Her name goes first.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#SandraCostilla #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GuiltyPlea #TheSeven #GilgoBeachVictims #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

She called him her savior. He stood in a Suffolk County courtroom and admitted to murdering seven women. He admitted to killing an eighth. Rex Heuermann pled guilty. Life without parole. No trial. No testimony. Just an admission — and a family left to reckon with what was real and what was never what it appeared to be.Asa Ellerup maintained she would have known. Their daughter Victoria sat in that courtroom and watched her father enter the plea. Victoria has publicly said she believes he most likely committed the killings. Asa stood outside afterward, asked for privacy, and expressed sympathy for the victims' families. Her attorney said she never claimed Rex wasn't guilty — she said the man she was married to for 27 years, the father of her daughter, she did not believe was capable of these acts. A mother and daughter. Same evidence. Same nightmare. Opposite conclusions.Prosecutors allege Heuermann engineered his crimes around his family's schedule — acting when Asa and the children were away. Investigators found violent content and checklists on his devices. A deleted planning document recovered from his hard drive allegedly detailed the methodology. A basement vault held 279 weapons. Asa's own hair was reportedly found on victims. For nearly three decades, she reportedly saw nothing. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott breaks down the psychology of "not knowing" — how the mind builds walls that allow a person to live beside evidence they cannot process, and what a guilty plea does to the architecture that sustained decades of reported unawareness.Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta examines why the plea happened. Every defense motion failed. Whole genome sequencing was admitted for the first time in a New York courtroom. The sentence was the same either way. Motta walks through what Heuermann gained — including cooperation with the FBI — and what the families of Melissa Barthelemy, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Amber Costello, Sandra Costilla, Valerie Mack, Jessica Taylor, Megan Waterman, and Karen Vergata lost when a plea replaced the trial that would have put every piece of evidence on the public record. For every person who followed this case from the discovery of the first remains to the plea hearing, this is the reckoning — legal, psychological, and human — that closes one chapter and leaves the hardest questions unanswered.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #AsaEllerup #GuiltyPlea #GilgoBeachVictims #KarenVergata #ShavaunScott #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Rex Heuermann pled guilty. After nearly three years of maintaining his innocence, the accused Gilgo Beach Killer admitted in court to murdering seven women and killing an eighth — Karen Vergata. Life without parole. No trial.For the families who waited over a decade for answers — some who waited more than two decades — a guilty plea provides certainty. It provides a sentence. But it also takes something away. There is no cross-examination. No testimony laid bare in open court. No moment where the prosecution walks a jury through every piece of evidence while the families watch. Eric Faddis — defense attorney and former felony prosecutor — walks through what a plea provides and what it costs with the honesty these families deserve.We also break down the evidence that reportedly left Heuermann no path to acquittal. Prosecutors recovered a deleted planning document from his hard drive — allegedly a blueprint for the killings. Whole genome sequencing matched his DNA to hairs found on and near victims, admitted in a New York courtroom for the first time. The foundational connection started with a pizza crust collected during surveillance. Over 350 electronic devices were seized. Faddis explains what happens when a prosecutor holds both a planning document and DNA linkage across multiple crime scenes, why the defense challenged the science but not the document, and what the Frye hearing looked like from the inside. He identifies the single piece of evidence he believes sealed the outcome — and his answer goes to intent, not just forensic presence. For every person who has followed this case from the beginning, this is the legal and evidentiary reckoning that explains how it ended.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GuiltyPlea #GilgoBeachVictims #KarenVergata #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast

Rex Heuermann got hustled on September 1, 2010 — and it may be the reason he's in prison. Amber Costello's roommate Dave Schaller ran a scam on a client at their West Babylon house. The client — described by Schaller as massive, an "ogre" — left, got into a first-generation Chevrolet Avalanche, and sent a text: "That was not nice, so do I get credit for next time." The next night, the same burner phone contacted Amber. She walked out to meet the man. Schaller saw the truck again. Amber never came back.Episode 7 of "The Seven" — the final installment. That Avalanche description sat in the case file until 2022, when the Gilgo Beach task force ran it through vehicle registration records. The name that came back: Rex Heuermann, architect, Massapequa Park. From there — surveillance, the pizza crust, the DNA match, the warrants, the house searches, the planning document, the arrest.Cell tower data tracked the burner phone from Massapequa Park to West Babylon on both nights. Amber was 27, four feet eleven, battling addiction. Her sister said she forgives Heuermann. The evidence trail that started with a roommate's description of a truck and ended with an arrest — all covered here. The last known victim became the case that broke everything open.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#AmberCostello #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoFour #LISK #ChevyAvalanche 

The pizza crust changed everything. Investigators had Heuermann under surveillance for months before they collected the abandoned DNA sample that cracked the case. He discarded a pizza crust near his Manhattan office. The DNA on it matched a male hair found in the burlap wrapping around Megan Waterman's remains. That match gave prosecutors warrants for his house in Massapequa Park, where they seized more than 350 electronic devices, the planning document, and evidence connecting Heuermann to multiple victims.Episode 6 of "The Seven." Megan was 22, from Maine, a devoted mother who called her three-year-old daughter every single day. When the calls stopped on June 6, 2010, her family knew immediately. The Holiday Inn Express surveillance footage — the last known image of Megan alive — shows her walking out at 1:15 a.m. She was found six months later in burlap on Ocean Parkway.Prosecutors allege Heuermann's family was out of state during every murder he's charged with. His search history allegedly included images of the victims and their families — their sisters, their children. The DNA breakthrough, Megan's story, and every piece of evidence that flowed from a discarded pizza crust — all covered here.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#MeganWaterman #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoFour #LISK #PizzaCrustDNA #DNAEvidence #TheSeven #TrueCrime #GilgoBeachKiller

Asa Ellerup was in the courtroom. Last row. Watching the man she was married to for nearly thirty years admit to things she once said she would have known about if they were true. Rex Heuermann's guilty plea is now the record. And Asa is navigating a world where the person she built her life around has admitted to being someone she says she never knew existed.Her daughter Victoria was there too. Victoria already said publicly that she believes her father most likely did it. She arrived at that conclusion before the plea. Her mother held on longer. After court, Asa told reporters her thoughts are with the victims. Her attorney blasted a wrongful death lawsuit that now names both of them — filed by the son of Valerie Mack, alleging the family profited from a documentary and showed disregard for the people harmed.This is where the case gets personal for the people who've been following it. The legal chapter is closing. The human chapter is just beginning — for every family connected to this story. On Hidden Killers Live With Tony Brueski & Robin Dreeke, Eric Faddis and Robin Dreeke continue the panel discussion on the aftermath. The lawsuit. The family fracture. The FBI cooperation that suggests this story may still have chapters no one has seen yet. And the question at the center of it: how do the people who loved him survive what he just admitted?Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #AsaEllerup #VictoriaHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #WrongfulDeath #SerialKillerFamily #HiddenKillersLive #GilgoBeachVictims #TrueCrime

He said it. After years of standing stone-faced in court, after denying everything, after forcing investigators and families through years of legal proceedings — Rex Heuermann stood in Suffolk County Court and pleaded guilty to killing seven women. He admitted to killing an eighth, Karen Vergata, whose case will not be separately charged under the plea deal.For the families of Melissa Barthelemy, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Amber Lynn Costello, Sandra Costilla, Valerie Mack, Jessica Taylor, and Megan Waterman — this is the formal legal confirmation of what they have been carrying for years. Some wept in the courtroom as Heuermann detailed his crimes. This is what resolution looks like when it comes too late and still isn't enough.Heuermann's ex-wife Asa Ellerup sat in the last row with their daughter Victoria. Asa told reporters her thoughts and prayers are with the victims. Victoria has previously stated publicly that she believes her father most likely committed the killings. A wrongful death lawsuit has been filed against all three of them by the son of Valerie Mack.On Hidden Killers Live With Tony Brueski & Robin Dreeke, defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis and Robin Dreeke sit down for a panel discussion on what this plea means — legally, behaviorally, and for every family connected to this case. What the defense gained. What the prosecution traded. What the FBI cooperation opens up. And why his attorney chose the word “relief” to describe a man admitting to killing eight women.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #GuiltyPlea #GilgoBeachVictims #KarenVergata #AsaEllerup #EricFaddis #HiddenKillersLive #Justice

The cellphone evidence in Melissa Barthelemy's case maps Rex Heuermann's alleged movements with precision. Prosecutors say the burner phone she'd connected with traveled from Massapequa Park to Midtown Manhattan on the day she disappeared — mirroring Heuermann's daily commute. Hours later, Melissa's own phone traveled the reverse route — from Manhattan back toward Long Island. And then, for five weeks, someone used Melissa's phone to call her 15-year-old sister, taunting her with details of the killing. Under three minutes per call. From crowded Manhattan locations. Emotionally flat. Calculated.Episode 5 of "The Seven." Melissa was 24, from Buffalo, living in the Bronx, working escort ads on Craigslist because the cosmetology career she'd trained for hadn't taken off yet. She was four feet ten, 95 pounds. She had eight cats. Her landlady described her as a sweet girl. Her remains were the first found in December 2010 — discovered by a cadaver dog during a training exercise along Ocean Parkway.Prosecutors allege Heuermann's internet searches included more than 200 queries about the Gilgo investigation and images of the victims' families. The phone trail, the taunting calls, the DNA, the search history, and Melissa's full story — all covered here.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#MelissaBarthelemy #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoFour #LISK #CellPhoneEvidence #TauntingCalls #TheSeven #TrueCrime #GilgoBeachKiller

Maureen Brainard-Barnes was the first of the Gilgo Four to disappear — July 2007. Three days later, her phone was used in Suffolk County along the Long Island Expressway. Prosecutors allege Rex Heuermann checked her voicemail after she was gone. Burner phone data from the phone that contacted Maureen traced back to "the box" — a tight cluster of cell towers surrounding Heuermann's Massapequa Park home. Every burner phone connected to the Gilgo Four pinged from that same area.Episode 4 of "The Seven." Maureen was 25, a mother of two, facing eviction, about to lose custody. She took the train from Connecticut to work as an escort in Midtown Manhattan because the money was the only thing standing between her and losing her children. At 11:43 p.m. on July 9, she called a friend and said she was going to meet a client. Nobody heard from her again for more than three years — until her remains were found in December 2010, wrapped in burlap on Ocean Parkway, alongside the other Gilgo Four victims.DNA on a leather belt used to bind her remains matched Heuermann's wife's profile. The belt also bore the initials "WH" — matching Heuermann's grandfather, William Heuermann. The cellphone evidence, the DNA, the family's fight for justice, and Maureen's full story — all covered here.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#MaureenBrainardBarnes #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoFour #LISK #BurnerPhone #DNAEvidence #TheSeven #TrueCrime #GilgoBeachKiller