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Illuminate Podcast: Shining Light on the Darkness of Pornography
Have you broken your partner's trust and want a structured process to help you repair it? Get instant access to my 12-week online Trust Building Bootcamp and begin repairing your marriage. Illuminate listeners can get 30% off the price of the course by visiting https://www.trustbuildingacademy.com/bootcamp and entering coupon code ILLUMINATE at checkout. In this episode, I interview Mari Lee, LMFT, CSAT-S, CPTT-S, CMBAT-S on the topic of toxic giving and taking in relationships. She also wrote a helpful blog post addressing this topic here: http://www.growthcounselingservices.com/blog/2015/8/24/givers-and-takers-which-one-are-you In this episode, we discuss: 1. The differences between givers and takers. 2. What a healthy balance of giving and taking looks like. 3. What causes people to become toxic givers and takers 4. How the giver and taker dynamic impacts recovery for trauma and sexual addiction. 5. What needs to happen with givers and takers to create change. 6. Specific tools you can use to change these dynamics in your relationships. Mari A. Lee is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist and Supervisor, a Certified Partners Trauma Therapist and Supervisor, a Certified Mindfulness Based Addiction Therapist and Supervisor, and the founder of Growth Counseling Services, a private recovery practice located in Glendora, California. Mari is recognized for her clinical work with sex addicts, traumatically betrayed spouses, and couples healing from infidelity. Additionally, Mari is a trusted coach with 30 years of business experience. She is the founder of, "The Counselor’s Coach" and provides coaching and consulting, clinical materials, and dedicated support to therapists across the U.S. and around the world. Mari's specialized coaching is focused on helping therapists create and launch multiple income streams beyond the one-on-one clinical hour. Mari is also a popular national speaker and presents across the country on the topic of sex and love addiction and betrayal trauma. She is the co-author of the bestselling book, “Facing Heartbreak: Steps to Recovery for Partners of Sex Addicts”, and she is the author of, “Healing Betrayal”, and “The Creative Clinician”, and a contributing author to “Behavioral Addictions: Criteria, Evidence and Treatment.” Her next book, “The Gift in the Wound: Stories of Resiliency and Hope” will be out in 2020. To learn more about Mari’s clinical work visit: www.GrowthCounselingServices.com To schedule coaching session with Mari visit: www.TheCounselorsCoach.com The Illuminate Podcast is hosted by Geoff Steurer, MS, LMFT and founder of LifeStar of St. George, Utah, a treatment program for couples healing from the impact of pornography and sexual addiction. Learn more at www.lifestarstgeorge.com Please donate to support the Illuminate Podcast: anchor.fm/illuminate-podcast/support Geoff has also created audio and video courses to help support individuals and couples in marriage, addiction, and betrayal trauma recovery at www.geoffsteurer.com/store
Illuminate Podcast: Shining Light on the Darkness of Pornography
Have you broken your partner's trust and want to repair it? Get instant access to the 12-week online Trust Building Bootcamp and begin repairing your marriage. Illuminate listeners can get 30% off the price of the course by visiting https://www.trustbuildingacademy.com/bootcamp and entering coupon code ILLUMINATE at checkout. I interview Mari Lee, LMFT, CSAT-S, CPTT-S, CMBAT-S on the topic of how mindfulness can help improve outcomes when treating pornography/sexual addiction and betrayal trauma. In this episode, we discuss: - How she discovered the power of mindfulness in her personal life and professional practice. - The definition of mindfulness - Why mindfulness is an important piece for healing trauma and addictions - What she noticed changing in her clients when she began incorporating mindfulness work in to their treatment - How betrayed partners can benefit from a mindfulness based therapy plan - How addicts can benefit from working with a therapist who weaves in mindful approaches in to the recovery work - Why she believes therapists working in this specialization would benefit from training in mindfulness based therapy Mari A. Lee is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist and Supervisor, a Certified Partners Trauma Therapist and Supervisor, a Certified Mindfulness Based Addiction Therapist and Supervisor, and the founder of Growth Counseling Services, a private recovery practice located in Glendora, California. Mari is recognized for her clinical work with sex addicts, traumatically betrayed spouses, and couples healing from infidelity. Additionally, Mari is a trusted coach with 30 years of business experience. She is the founder of, "The Counselor’s Coach" and provides coaching and consulting, clinical materials, and dedicated support to therapists across the U.S. and around the world. Mari's specialized coaching is focused on helping therapists create and launch multiple income streams beyond the one-on-one clinical hour. Mari is also a popular national speaker and presents across the country on the topic of sex and love addiction and betrayal trauma. She is the co-author of the bestselling book, “Facing Heartbreak: Steps to Recovery for Partners of Sex Addicts”, and she is the author of, “Healing Betrayal”, and “The Creative Clinician”, and a contributing author to “Behavioral Addictions: Criteria, Evidence and Treatment.” Her next book, “The Gift in the Wound: Stories of Resiliency and Hope” will be out in 2020. To learn more about Mari’s clinical work visit: www.GrowthCounselingServices.com To schedule coaching session with Mari visit: www.TheCounselorsCoach.com The Illuminate Podcast is hosted by Geoff Steurer, MS, LMFT and founder of LifeStar of St. George, Utah, a treatment program for couples healing from the impact of pornography and sexual addiction. Learn more at www.lifestarstgeorge.com Please donate to support the Illuminate Podcast: anchor.fm/illuminate-podcast/support I have also created audio and video courses to help support individuals and couples in marriage, addiction, and betrayal trauma recovery at www.geoffsteurer.com/store
Darrin Ford is the special guest I would like to introduce you to today. Darrin is also a sponsor for the upcoming Shine Retreat. Today, Darrin and I will discuss changing the word “mindfulness” from a trendy buzzword to something tangible that we can apply to our lives and use as a way to tune in to ourselves, to learn and to grow as we move through this journey called life. Darrin Ford is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist specializing in treating addictive disorders. His practice began in Long Beach, California and has extended over the years to include treatment centers in West Los Angeles and Orange County. As co-founder of Sano Center for Recovery, he currently serves as the chief executive officer, runs intensive workshops, and mentors new therapists. He is a certified Sex Addiction Therapist Supervisor, who was trained directly by the pioneer of the field, Dr. Patrick Carnes. He also has Founded The Mindfulness Academy of Addiction and Trauma Training with Mari Lee LMFT, CSAT-S, MBAT-S AKA The Counselors Coach and CEO of Growth Counseling Services. In his years of treating those afflicted with addiction, he ascertained the keystone of mindfulness in breaking free from old patterns, habits, and ways of thinking. Steeped in his passion for science and Buddhist philosophy, he co-wrote the Mindfulness-Based Addiction Therapy Certification Program (MBAT™). His expertise in the field of addictive behaviors can be found in the program, which takes a modern approach to Eastern techniques in exploring the mind. His next book, Awakening to the Addictive Mind: A Story of and Guide to Addiction, sheds an intimate light on his own struggles and how he came to help others on a path he is intimately familiar with. His upcoming book will be available in 2018 Darrin is also available for public speaking events and coaching. For more information please visit www.darrinford.com. Mari Lee, my co-host for the upcoming Shine Retreat for Women, and I would like to extend a personal invitation for you to join us September 27th - 29th, at this restorative women’s retreat, the ultimate self-care weekend where every woman is welcomed. You will be among friends! I encourage you to email me or Mari Lee at info@ShineRetreatforWomen.com to receive a $50 discount code off registration. Shine Retreat is limited to 40 women, and it’s filling up fast, so be sure to register at https://www.shineretreatforwomen.com/. Show Highlights: Mindfulness: Looking at the “mind” in that word. Is this accurate? Is what my mind telling me aligning with where I am at with my environment and everything right now? Getting as accurate alignment with reality as possible Impulsivity and habits becoming our destiny Conditioning the mind and recreating conflict Mindfulness exercise activities Addiction at its core is an intimacy disorder Using mindfulness for anger management and conflict resolution We’re sometimes not aware that we use mindfulness Using focus to move into practices that cultivate more mindfulness Suggestions for moments of pause Practice: very simple, but not always easy Compassion is not altruism Constructive and destructive compassion Destructive compassion helps someone feel better in the short run, but is destructive in the long run. Constructive compassion helps someone heal in the long run, but may anger the person offered it in the short run. Emotions rise, crest, and fall, and as humans beings, we can expect this. Offering ourselves compassion through the distress of feeling an emotion When the pain becomes too overwhelming, we have to have the presence of mind to reach out and share it with someone so they can be present for the process. If someone is suffering from psychotic symptoms, or somebody who has other symptoms of detachment from reality, we wouldn’t want to you to be practicing mindfulness, as it wouldn’t help. Enlisting expert help Overwhelming evidence of how mindfulness works with the neuroplasticity of the brain Darrin shares what’s coming up in his work Resources: Her Life Unscripted Facebook Page, give it a LIKE! https://www.facebook.com/herlifeunscripted/ Links to Darrin’s websites: www.sanopress.com www.sanorecovery.com www.TMAATT.com www.DarrinFord.com Special Invitation: Shine Retreat is coming up September 27th - 29th, 2019. Registration at: https://www.shineretreatforwomen.com/ Email me at info@ShineRetreatforWomen.com to receive a $50 discount code off registration. You can also reach me at anna@herlifeunscripted.com. “Shine Retreat” is limited to 40 women.
Thank you to this episode's sponsor, TherapyNotes. Get a 2-month free trial of TherapyNotes by going to www.TherapyNotes.com and using the promo code TherapyChat. Welcome back to Therapy Chat! In today's podcast host Laura Reagan speaks to Mari Lee about showing up vs. showing off. Mari A. Lee is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist and Supervisor, and the founder of Growth Counseling Services, a private recovery practice located in Glendora, California. Mari is recognized for her clinical work with sex addicts, traumatically betrayed spouses, and couples healing from infidelity. Additionally, Mari is a trusted coach and respected entrepreneur with 30 years of business experience. She is the founder of, "The Counselor’s Coach" and provides effective coaching, clinical materials, and dedicated support to therapists across the U.S. and around the world. Mari's specialized coaching is focused on helping therapists create and launch multiple income streams beyond the one-on-one clinical hour. Mari is also the co-author of the bestselling book, “Facing Heartbreak: Steps to Recovery for Partners of Sex Addicts”, and she is the author of, “Healing Betrayal”, and “The Creative Clinician." Her next book, “The Gift in the Wound: Stories of Resiliency and Hope” will be out in 2020. Finally, Mari is a popular speaker and presents across the country on the topic of sex and love addiction, partner’s betrayal trauma, and is the co-founder of, “The Shine Retreat for Women”, which is an inspiring, rejuvenating and inclusive self care weekend retreat where all women are warmly welcomed. Shine 2019 is happening September 27-29th in beautiful Laguna Beach, California. Resources To learn more about Mari’s clinical work visit: www.GrowthCounselingServices.com To schedule coaching session with Mari visit: www.TheCounselorsCoach.com To attend The Shine Women’s Retreat visit: www.ShineRetreatforWomen.com Are you a therapist needing support to sharpen your clinical skills in working with trauma survivors? Want to work with Laura for clinical consultation? Get in touch via laura@bahealing.com. Or if you're interested in joining an upcoming online or in person clinical consultation group, go here to sign up on the interest list! Please let us know what you'd like to learn more from Laura by completing this short survey! Want a cool Therapy Chat t-shirt, sticker or mug? Find them here: https://www.teepublic.com/user/therapychat Please consider supporting Therapy Chat by becoming a member on Patreon! Just $1 a month would make a huge impact to keep Therapy Chat going strong! To learn more head to - https://patreon.com/TherapyChat where members get special perks and swag too! Leave me a message via Speakpipe by going to https://therapychatpodcast.com and clicking on the green Speakpipe button. Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes. You can also download the Therapy Chat app on iTunes by clicking here. Podcast produced by Pete Bailey - https://petebailey.net/audio
Mari Lee is an author of best-selling books Facing Heartbreak and Healing Betrayal, speaker, and LMFT, a Sex Addiction Therapist, Specialist, and Supervisor. She also is the founder of Growth Counseling Services and Shine Women’s Retreat. She talks with Rob about what it is like to be a woman in her job working with both partners and addicts healing from betrayal, and how she helps her clients feel heard, resources for hope and healing, and why she loves working with addicts. TAKEAWAYS: [2:37] Mari didn’t always want to work with sex addicts. When she came into the work, her passion was about supporting traumatized partners. There wasn’t a lot of support or knowledge about working with betrayed partners, and much of it was based in codependency rather than prodependence. [4:31] Mari began to understand that the choices the addict was making had little to nothing to do with their partner. [7:25] Mari does a lot of psychoeducation with her clients about what is going on in the limbic and nervous systems. [8:55] If a partner grows up in an environment where there is shaming and much negativity, hiding and deceit become coping mechanisms and they develop a core belief that they are unloveable. Their actions then reinforce that behavior, and they need to first get help for the relationship they have with themselves. [13:18] It is often more difficult for the partner who has to look at their spouse as troubled because they want to have empathy but they are so hurt, shocked and angry. [16:45] The disclosure process, or “clinical formal disclosure” can be a very painful and traumatic time. This is a very thorough process where the addict and partner agree to come into a sacred healing space to disclose all the betrayals and hidden secrets. [17:43] Over time, a partner that is being gaslighted feels fear, obligation, and guilt. One of the most healing tools is for the addict to work with a therapist and give their partner full disclosure and truth, and the power to decide if they want to continue the relationship. [26:45] Mari wrote Facing Heartbreak for partners who can’t afford to see a therapist, or are unable to see one due to logistics, insurance or financial means. [30:14] Mari refers to her clients as survivors and thrive-rs. They may be scared at first, but she helps them move away from the idea of victimization and towards empowerment and understanding how to set tangible boundaries. RESOURCES: Sex and Relationship Healing @RobWeissMSW Sex Addiction 101 Cruise Control: Understanding Sex Addiction in Gay Men Prodependence: Moving Beyond Codependency Rob@sexandrelationshiphealing.com Shine Women’s Retreat Growth Counseling Services Facing Heartbreak Healing Betrayal QUOTES: “I knew I wanted to be somebody that created healing spaces, materials, support, and community for partners in pain.” “Therapists need to educate their clients in what is going on in their nervous system and brain.” “I help a partner understand how she can share her truth.” “The intuition of human beings is one of the most powerful gifts we have. When you send a woman out in the world doubting her own intuition, you make that woman very vulnerable.” “We need to have a focused roadmap for the treatment team.”
Mari Lee, LMFT, CSAT-S, owner of Growth Counseling Services joins us for an enlightening chat on narcissism and sex addictions. Mari educates us on what a sex addiction is, and why it is vital to our health to get support when battling these issues. To get in touch with Mari Lee, LMFT, CSAT-S please check out: Growth Counseling Services Resources mentioned: https://www.IITAP.com https://www.sexhealth.com https://www.sanon.org https://www.sexhelp.com https://www.sexaa.org Facing The Shadows, by Patrick Carnes, Phd. If you have questions for Dr. Jones, or if you are interested in sponsoring the podcast please email: adatewithdarkness@gmail.com. Be sure to stay connected with Dr. Jones and A Date With Darkness Podcast. Visit the website: A Date With Darkness. Let's keep in touch via social media! Facebook: @adatewithdarkness Instagram: @adatewithdarkness Twitter: @adatewdarkness To connect with likeminded individuals seeking support from hurtful and abusive relationships in a safe space, please join the private FB group: A Date With Darkness Group.
We were excited to sit with Mari Lee and talk about her upcoming book "The Gift in the Wound: Stories of Hope and Resiliency" Mari, Jackie, and Jon all reflect on the changes and gifts that have come into their lives post trauma and heart-break. Mari A. Lee, LMFT, CSAT-S is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist, and is recognized nationally and internationally for her work with sex addicts and their partners. She is the founder of Growth Counseling Services, a recovery center located in Southern California. Mari is also the author of the best selling book, “Facing Heartbreak: Steps to Recovery for Partners of Sex Addicts”, and “The Creative Clinician.” Her next book, “The Gift in the Wound: Stories of Hope and Resiliency” will be out in 2018. She is a popular speaker and presents across the country on the topic of sex and love addiction, partner’s trauma and resiliency. In addition to her clinical work, speaking and writing, Mari is known as “The Counselor’s Coach”, and is a trusted business coach helping therapists create multiple income streams and develop successful private practices. She facilitates the popular on line coaching group, “Like A Boss”, and gives generously to the clinical community with free information on her coaching website blog. Mari has created a complete clinical packet for therapists in private practice, as well as group therapy forms, and freebies on her toolbox page as a support. For supportive information, materials and workshops, please visit: www.thecounselorscoach.com For further information and support, or if you are interested in hiring Mari as a speaker for your organization, event, TV, radio, or pod cast show, you may contact Mari at 818.521.4370, or reach her via email at:mari@thecounselorscoach.com
We were excited to sit with Mari Lee and talk about her upcoming book "The Gift in the Wound: Stories of Hope and Resiliency" Mari, Jackie, and Jon all reflect on the changes and gifts that have come into their lives post trauma and heart-break. Mari A. Lee, LMFT, CSAT-S is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist, and is recognized nationally and internationally for her work with sex addicts and their partners. She is the founder of Growth Counseling Services, a recovery center located in Southern California. Mari is also the author of the best selling book, “Facing Heartbreak: Steps to Recovery for Partners of Sex Addicts”, and “The Creative Clinician.” Her next book, “The Gift in the Wound: Stories of Hope and Resiliency” will be out in 2018. She is a popular speaker and presents across the country on the topic of sex and love addiction, partner’s trauma and resiliency. In addition to her clinical work, speaking and writing, Mari is known as “The Counselor’s Coach”, and is a trusted business coach helping therapists create multiple income streams and develop successful private practices. She facilitates the popular on line coaching group, “Like A Boss”, and gives generously to the clinical community with free information on her coaching website blog. Mari has created a complete clinical packet for therapists in private practice, as well as group therapy forms, and freebies on her toolbox page as a support. For supportive information, materials and workshops, please visit: www.thecounselorscoach.com For further information and support, or if you are interested in hiring Mari as a speaker for your organization, event, TV, radio, or pod cast show, you may contact Mari at 818.521.4370, or reach her via email at:mari@thecounselorscoach.com
My guest today is Mari A. Lee a licensed marriage and family therapist, a certified sex addiction therapist, the founder of Growth Counseling Services in Glendora, California, a best-selling author, popular national speaker, and a business coach supporting therapists in developing multiple income streams. Additionally, Mari is the co-founder of the annual “Shine Retreat for Women” in Laguna Beach, CA. In this episode, you will learn: Mari talks about her own experience of being in foster care The Roles moms and dads can play in supporting teen girls How self-care can benefit your teenage daughter I invite you to sign up for my newsletter to stay updated and receive other parenting tips or information about upcoming events at www.LaunchingYourDaughter.com or www.NicoleCBurgess.com/ep56
Our guest on this episode of The Addicted Mind podcast is *Mari Lee* , a licensed marriage and family and certified sex addiction therapist supervisor, consultant, coach, speaker, author, and founder of Growth Counseling Services in Glendora, CA. Mari is a firm believer in the power of group therapy in conjunction with individual therapy and 12-step sessions to aid in the recovery process, especially with sex and porn addictions. Addiction thrives in secrecy and isolation, and could often be triggered by boredom and loneliness, so an excellent way to progress in the recovery process is to have a confidential group of individuals who know what you are going through and can support you along the way. The members of this group could, in fact, be the first healthy relationships they have each experienced. *Sign Up For our 6 Day Mindfulness Email Series* theaddictedmind.com/mindfulness ( http://theaddictedmind.com/mindfulness ) Group therapy, when facilitated the right way, can provide the individuals with shame reduction practices, a community with the other members, structure, consistency, inclusion, focused discussions, and accountability. The connections between the group members are often viewed as a brotherhood or sisterhood and provide a foundation for each member as they engage with their life circumstances outside of the group as well. It is common for individuals in the group to have trauma from their families of origin, and these traumas and unhealthy familial roles typically play a part in these group therapy sessions. Group therapy members are also encouraged to attend 12-step programs to support their individual recovery as well since these programs are more systematic and structured, providing each individual with a sponsor for accountability. However, 12-step programs do not have the flexibility of group therapy when it comes to cross-talk between group members, feedback, and deep conversations. *Episode Link* theaddictedmind.com/54 ( http://theaddictedmind.com/54 ) Mari encourages anyone out there who is considering joining a group therapy session to go ahead and give it a shot. Be sure to do a pre-group interview with your therapist to determine which group might be best for you and be open to being referred to a group in another therapist’s practice if that one is the best fit. Find out the logistics of when the group meets and how a session typically looks, so you are as prepared as possible for your initial meeting. Be open to the process and commit to the group for your own healing. Therapy in their practices, Mari recommends reaching out to a consultant who can help you come up with curriculum, client standards, policies, forms, standards of care, and a general roadmap for conducting and facilitating your group.