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This is the place for all things recovery, healing, and relationships. We explore a variety of topics with people in recovery and the professionals who help them through personal stories. This podcast will give you a broad look at the aspects of recovery that make a difference.

Jackie Pack


    • May 28, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekly NEW EPISODES
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    • 328 EPISODES


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    Episode 317: Talking to teens about sex in the digital age.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2025 139:31


    In this episode, Jackie shares a story about a conversation with a father concerned about raising his sons in today's digital world, particularly regarding the impact of social media and shame on adolescent sexuality. By being an 'askable adult', parents can foster a supportive atmosphere where teens feel comfortable discussing sensitive topics. The conversation highlights the significance of empathy, boundaries, and trust in navigating digital interactions, ultimately aiming to empower parents and teens to engage in healthy discussions about sexuality.

    Episode 316: First-order Change vs. Second-order change

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2025 39:02


    In this episode, Jackie discusses the concepts of first order change and second-order change, particularly in the context of addiction and recovery. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the difference between superficial changes that do not address underlying issues and deeper, transformational changes that can lead to lasting recovery. 

    Episode 315: Healing Sex Addiction and Betrayal Trauma as a couple (part two)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2025 91:25


    In this episode, Jackie delves into the phases of healing betrayal in relationships, highlighting the significance of individual therapy before couples therapy. Jackie explains the "full disclosure" process in recovery, stressing the need for honesty and emotional regulation. She describes the work done in phase 3 for the couple, highlighting the transformative journey couples undergo as they learn to communicate effectively and address deeper relationship dynamics. #podcast #betrayaltraumarecovery #sexaddictionrecovery Register for Online Workshop Breaking the Cycle of Relapse: https://buy.stripe.com/dR629h4og6mG3Wo6op  

    Episode 314: Healing Sex Addiction and Betrayal Trauma for couples

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2025 45:35


    In this episode, Jackie discussed the complexities of healing from sex addiction and betrayal trauma within relationships.  She emphasized the importance of individual therapy before beginning joint sessions, explaining that fixing the relationship alone does ot address the underlying issues of addiction or the trauma of betrayal.  Jackie illustrates the journey of recovery and the steps needed to rebuild trust and intimacy in relationships affected by sex addiction.  

    Episode 313: Rebuilding Trust

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2025 76:24


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel discuss the ongoing legal situation surrounding Jodi Hidebrandt, exploring themes of accountability and the complexities of the justice system.   They then pivot to a deeper conversation about betrayal trauma, its impact on relationships, and the process of rebuilding trust after betrayal.  They discuss the importance of personal accountability, understanding trustworthiness, and the necessity of self-trust in the healing process.   Link to ted talk discussed in the podcast:  https://www.ted.com/talks/onora_o_neill_what_we_don_t_understand_about_trust?language=en

    Episode 312: Reclaiming Wants and Needs

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2025 65:01


    In this episode, Jackie discusses the importance of recognizing and reclaiming our wants and needs, drawing from the work of Pia Melody and other experts in the field of trauma and attachment.  She explores how childhood conditioning and trauma can lead to disconnection from our true selves, resulting in emotional difficulties and becoming needless and wantless.  

    Episode 311: Navigating Safety

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2025 50:12


    In this episode, Jackie delves into the topic of women's safety.  She examines how it is perceived differently by men and women.  She discusses the importance of understanding safety needs, the role of boundaries in creating safety, and the impact of betrayal trauma on a woman's sense of safety.

    Episode 310: Gentle Parenting

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2025 94:32


    In this episode, Jackie delves into the concept of gentle parenting, as well as the myths surrounding it.  She also addresses objections parents may have regarding gentle parenting, advocating for a gentle approach that involves setting clear limits while fostering a strong connection with children. 

    Episode 309: Happy Anniversary to Us!

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2025 82:36


    In this episode, Jackie is joined by her partner Jeff as they discuss the arc of their relationship over the past 32 years of marriage.  They discuss the pros and cons of being married to a therapist, the hard and rewarding work of parenting, and the continuing work of connecting and growing the relationship with each other.  

    Episode 308: Bad Therapists - Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2025 118:45


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel delve into the complexities of parenting, ethics in therapy, and the impact of cultural pressures on family dynamics. They discuss the documentary The Devil in My Family, which explores the unethical practices of Jodi Hildebrandt, the exploitation of family vlogging, and the implications of attachment wounds in relationships. The episode also highlights the impact of trauma on individuals and families, emphasizing the need for societal responsibility in preventing such abuses and fostering healthier environments for parenting and personal development.

    Episode 307: Bad Relationship Advice

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2025 91:04


    In this episode, Jackie and Bridget discuss Bridget's experience taking a community class with her boyfriend that turned out to be filled with outdated and problematic advice. They critique the class content and the gender stereotypes presented, while also reflecting on the broader implications of patriarchy on emotional expression in relationships.    The conversation delves into the complexities of sexual needs and arousal in relationships, emphasizing the misunderstandings between male and female perspectives. It highlights the importance of communication, consent, and emotional needs, while challenging societal myths surrounding male sexuality and female arousal. 

    Episode 306: Healing Addiction and Enmeshment with Erin Snow

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2025 58:24


    In this conversation, Jackie Pack and Erin Snow delve into the complexities of betrayal trauma, the impact of enmeshment on male clients, and the importance of authenticity in recovery. They explore the complexities of recovery from addiction, the impact of childhood trauma, and the importance of building supportive relationships. They discuss mother enmeshment, attachment, and the role of core beliefs in shaping one's identity, emphasizing the journey of self-discovery and the integration of sexuality and spirituality in healing. 

    Episode 305: Understanding Attachment

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2025 78:13


    In this episode, Jackie is a guest on The Wholeness Network with Mechelle Wingle. This conversation delves into attachment theory, exploring its origins with John Bowlby and Mary Ainsworth, the different attachment styles, and their implications in various relationships, including family, friendships, and romantic partnerships. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding one's attachment style for personal growth and improving relationships.  Ultimately, they explore the concept of wholeness in therapy, advocating for an integrated approach to mental health.

    Episode 304: Resistance and Dissent

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2025 32:59


    In this episode, Jackie explores the concepts of resistance and dissent, drawing from her experiences as a mental health professional and business owner. She reflects on her journey of learning to balance trust in her team with the necessity of engaging in difficult conversations. The discussion delves into the nature of resistance, its psychological roots, and how it can hinder personal growth. Jackie emphasizes the importance of dissent in asserting one's values and fostering authentic connections.   

    Episode 303: Dishonesty and Deceit

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2025 46:29


    In this episode, Jackie Pack explores the complex nature of lying, its psychological roots, and its implications on relationships and self-perception. The conversation delves into why children lie, the development of lying into adulthood, and the interplay between lying and the potential for change. Jackie emphasizes the importance of honesty and accountability in fostering genuine transformation while also addressing the phenomenon of self-deception and its psychological benefits.   

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    Episode 302: The Importance of Fathers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2025 65:44


    In this conversation, Jackie and Rachel explore the profound impact of addiction on fatherhood and parenting. They discuss how addiction can lead to fathers stepping away from their parenting responsibilities, the emotional toll of an absent father, and the importance of fathers in their children's lives. The conversation also delves into personal experiences with the father's absence, the differences in parenting styles between mothers and fathers, and the significance of risk-taking in child development. They emphasize the need for recovery to be present as a parent and the complexities of navigating parenting roles after addiction. 

    Episode 301: Shock and Awe and the Work Ahead

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2025 20:08


    In this episode, Jackie reflects on the political landscape following Donald Trump's second inauguration, discussing the anxiety felt by many and the importance of understanding the historical context of distrust in government. She emphasizes the need for citizens to take responsibility for their government and engage with diverse perspectives, while also addressing the impact of branding and perception in politics. The conversation culminates in a discussion about the challenges facing the Democratic party and the implications of proposed voter protection laws. In this conversation, Jackie discusses the implications of voter ID laws, the disconnect between political policies and the values that drive them, and the importance of grassroots movements in fostering community engagement. She emphasizes the need to reclaim common sense principles and highlights a powerful case study in activism against rape culture, illustrating how one woman's story can spark significant societal change.

    Episode 300: Interview with my daughters

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2025 106:35


    In this conversation, Jackie and her daughters explore the complexities of family dynamics and the influence of their mother's work as a therapist. They reflect on their childhood experiences, the importance of open communication about sex and relationships, and the lessons learned about emotional intelligence and self-awareness. The discussion highlights the challenges of societal expectations and therapy's role in navigating personal growth and family relationships.

    Episode 299: The History of Social Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2025 44:48


    In this episode, Jackie explores the history and evolution of social work, highlighting its roots in community care and the systemic issues that social workers address today.  Jackie emphasizes the importance of understanding systemic issues and the role of social workers in creating meaningful change within communities.

    Episode 298: Autonomy and Connection

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2025 57:55


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel discuss the importance of autonomy and connection in healthy relationships.

    Episode 297: Understanding the shooting of the UHC CEO and the public response.

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2024 54:40


    This conversation delves into the tragic shooting of Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, by Luigi Mangione, exploring the broader implications of healthcare frustrations, mental health issues, and society reactions.  It highlights the complex interplay between individual struggles and systemic failures, emphasizing the need for a compassionate approach to healthcare that addresses both physical and psychological needs. 

    Episode 296: Jackie goes on a cruise, healthy shame, shamelessness and emotions.

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2024 94:18


    In this episode, Jackie talks about healthy shame, shamelessness, emotions and the adventure that it is to go on a cruise!  

    Episode 295: Induced, carried, and core emotions

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2024 74:23


    In this conversation, Jackie and Bridget delve into the concepts of induced and carried feelings, exploring how these emotions are often a result of parental influence and unresolved issues. 

    Episode 294: Relationship Recovery

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2024 79:12


    In this episode, Jackie explores the complex journey of recovering relationships affected by sex addiction.  

    Episode 293: PTSD and CPTSD

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2024 47:00


    In this episode, Jackie talks about the differences between PTSD and CPTSD when diagnosing and healing. 

    Episode 292: Normalcy Bias

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2024 41:09


    In this episode, Jackie talks about normalcy bias.  How it can comfort us while also bypassing necessary steps that need to be taken.    

    Episode 291: Coercive Control

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2024 46:23


    In this episode, Jackie talks about this very specific type of abuse that happens in relationships.

    Episode 290: The Drama Triangle

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2024 55:04


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel discuss the drama triangle.  A lot of conflict happens in the drama triangle, although most people don't recognize that and they don't know how to get out of it.  

    Episode 289: Masculinity Crisis Part One

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2024 118:45


    In this episode, Jackie talks to Dion Harris about his thoughts on the masculinity crisis with emerging adult males. 

    Episode #287: Book Club with Jackie and Rachel

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2024 52:07


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel discuss The 5 Love Languages. They cover the oversimplified messages, the problems with this approach, and the complexity of working with couples. 

    Episode 286: Insurance and Therapy

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2024 50:55


    In this episode, Jackie talks about the difficulty for new clients to find therapists with availability and even harder finding a therapist who accepts their insurance.  Why do so many therapists refuse to work with insurance? This episode outlines the problems with insurance and therapy.  

    Episode 285: Emotional Availability

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2024 65:20


    Bridget joins Jackie in this episode to talk about Emotional Availability.

    Episode 284: Healthy and Unhealthy Anger

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2024 40:19


    In this episode, Jackie breaks down the differences between healthy and unhealthy expressions of anger and the importance of healthy anger.   

    Episode 283: Emotional Affairs

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2024 38:38


    In this episode, Jackie talks about the damage of emotional affairs on relationships.  

    Episode 282: Ownership v Partnership, Part Two

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2024 50:40


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel continue discussing the shift from ownership to partnership in marriage and long-term relationships.  

    Episode 281: Emotional Labor

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2024 108:00


    In this episode, Jackie talks about emotional labor, mental labor, and the importance of this work and its impact on our culture, relationships, and our mental health.                                                                    

    Episode 246: Childhood Emotional Neglect (Rerun)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2024 88:40


    In this episode, Jackie talks about the often hidden and unknown condition of childhood emotional neglect.  Our parents may understand the importance of providing for our physical needs as children, but when our emotional needs are neglected and not attuned to, we grow up feeling off.  We may question our feelings and our needs, we might struggle with self-esteem, and are unable to take appropriate risks.  And we may feel disconnected and empty and not understood.  

    Episode 280: Family Reunions

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2024 45:50


    In this episode Jackie talks about Family Reunions....for good or bad.  

    Episode 279: Betrayal Blindness

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2024 70:41


    In this episode, Jackie talks about the work of Dr. Jennifer Freyd on betrayal trauma and its relationship to betrayal blindness. 

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    Episode 278: The Ashley Madison Hack

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2024 84:26


    In this episode, Jackie introduces Bridget to listeners as they talk about two documentaries covering the Ashley Madison hack.  

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    Episode 277: Ownership vs. Partnership

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2024 57:00


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel set the stage for discussing ownership vs. partnership relationship models.  

    Episode 276: Healing Insecure Attachment

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2024 68:33


    In this episode, Jackie talks attachment styles, healing insecure attachment and learning the language of attachment.  

    Episode 275: Birthday wants and needs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2024 29:52


    In this episode, Jackie talks about wants and needs and the patterns that are created and continue into adulthood.  Patterns that can and should be addressed in order to have a different storyline.  

    Episode 274: Myths about Sexuality

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2024 56:08


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel wrap up their series on intimacy, discussing the myths that make intimacy difficult.

    Episode 173: The Impact of Family Dysfunction (rerun)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2024 47:59


    In this episode Jackie talks about the impact of family dysfunction.  We like to think that what happened in our past doesn't affect our adult lives.  However, One of the most significant triggers for childhood relationship trauma are adult relationships.  Understanding how childhood trauma impacts us is key to being able to heal the wounds and become emotionally literate. 

    Episode 273: Intimacy and Attachment

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2024 45:56


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel continue their series on intimacy. 

    Episode 272: George Michael and Freedom!

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2024 22:03


    In this episode, Jackie talks about what has been occupying her attention lately and the lyrics of the George Michael song Freedom.    

    Episode 0271: Compartmentalization

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 39:27


    In this episode Jackie talks about compartmentalization and how it can be both an effective coping mechanism and can also become problematic.

    Episode 270: Certainty and Intimacy

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2024 67:48


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel continue their series of episodes focused on intimacy.  In this episode, we talk about how certainty and predictability are barriers to intimacy.  

    Episode 269: Disordered Intimacy

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2024 59:55


    In this episode, Jackie and Rachel discuss disordered intimacy. 

    Episode 268: Triggers

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2024 80:12


    In this episode, Jackie talks about triggers.  She talks about what triggers are and how they get talked about incorrectly.    

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