Relatable Leader

Have you worked with someone who was IQ smart but emotionally unintelligent? They are often at the center of confusion and conflict. Worse, they often don't have the capacity or desire to resolve conflict. Take these 8 actions and use them as markers for your emotional intelligence evolution! Thank you for listening to the Relatable Leader podcast and recommending it to your coworkers. 

National influencer and consultant, Ron Carucci, joined me for a thought-provoking and entertaining discussion. Listen and learn from Ron - he's got a terrific style and I count him in as a "Relatable Leader". Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast. 

Impacted by unrealistic expectations of others and management decisions you knew nothing about? How are you feeling about the one-year milestone of the Covid experience? How are you staying motivated and what are you looking forward to? Thank you for listening and subscribing to the Relatable Leader Podcast!

Coping skills for this challenging time. Update on registration for my trainings. 

Yep: I dial random numbers until someone answers the phone. It's exciting when someone picks up and is willing to talk with me. I don't know what to expect, and that's part of the fun. This gentleman who specializes in sustainable farming practices added value to my day and I think you'll be glad you took time to hear what he has to say!

I decided to break through the pandemic isolation barrier and start talking to people using the telephone. Dialing random numbers until someone picks up, I'm hoping they will talk with me about their favorite supervisor or job, or their experience in a leadership position. This is my first call and you get to listen in. 

In this episode I question the legality of "demanding" people turn on their video cameras if there are people outside of the organization in the meeting. I also provide suggestions for dealing with the potential invasion of privacy when people are working remotely from "home" - if they have one. 

Hear what three leaders say about the lessons they've learned during the Covid-19 crisis and tell me about the things you've learned! Also: 6 questions leaders - and you - should be asking for effective leadership relationship building. 

The past few months have been a time to take a step back, reflect on current needs and options, adaptability, and taking action to support each other and take good care of ourselves. In this episode I share insightful thoughts from another influencer on the topic of Sensitive Leadership. 

As long as this stay-in-place order is in effect, I will produce some unofficial Relatable Leader episodes to touch base with you. Stay home so our healthcare workers don't have to continue working in this condition longer than is necessary. Take good care of yourselves!

Stay in place! Work from home if you can. Covid-19 has given you the perfect opportunity to update your professional presence online. Go for it! Listen to this episode for the "Here's How". Please share this podcast with the people in your circle who are working at reduced hours or who have lost their jobs. 

6 Rules of Engagement when the time has come to make a change. Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast. If you choose to give us a 5 Star Rating, thanks so much, as it helps our show get found so others can benefit too.  Purchase your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon!

Fear. Waiting. Too much time in our heads, worrying. It can hold us back in every aspect of our lives. This episode is the result of a suggestion from one of my training participants. As soon as he requested I read this book, one of my all-time favorites to read out loud, I thought is was perfect for the 200th episode. Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast! Get Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon! 

Your word choices impact how people listen to you and their perception of the value you bring to your role. This episode asks you to consider 5 different sentence starters and when you should use them. Thank you for listening and subscribing to the Relatable Leader podcast. If you choose to, thank you for leaving a 5 star review. Get Catherine Goggia's book on Amazon! Learn more at relatableleader.com

"Some day" is right here, right now. What action will you take to move you closer to your goals? Don't wait until you are in that next role, start living that role today - try it on for size, see how you feel! Let others see who you can be in that role. Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast! Purchase Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon! http://www.relatableleader.com/ https://worksmartlivehappy.com/

Don't wait until you have the position to show people how you might fill the role. Instead of talking about what you could do, DO IT, so they don't have to use their imagination when picturing you in the next role on your career path.  Thank you for listening to, and sharing, the Relatable Leader podcast! #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #leadershipskills #businesslaunch #visualizeyourfuture

In this episode I continue answering leadership questions submitted by training participants. Thank you for listening and subscribing to, and sharing, The Relatable Leader Podcast.  Show Notes: https://interpersonalevolution.wordpress.com/2020/01/22/answering-your-leadership-questions-part-2/ #catherinegoggia #relatableleader #leadershipdevelopment

Training participants in my Coaching Employee Performance workshop were given the opportunity to submit questions and I answer those questions in these next two episodes. Thank you for listening, subscribing, and sharing the Relatable Leader podcast with the supervisors and managers at your organization! Show notes: https://interpersonalevolution.wordpress.com/2020/01/13/answering-your-leadership-questions-1/ Submit your leadership questions to Catherine here: http://www.relatableleader.com/

This is my KZFR guest DJ spot that originally aired earlier this year in my efforts to support survivors of The Camp Fire. Now we face the one-year anniversary of this devastating event and face all of the emotions, stress, and circumstances we have moved through during this time. For me, it seems like the fire was last weekend and, at the same time, years ago..."fire brain" is real; difficulty concentrating, low energy, and emotional stamina running on empty, many of us have moved through this past year in a robotic state, doing what needs to be done as we operate in survival mode. No matter where you are at in this process, because of The Camp Fire or some other event which has caused you to face grief and loss, it is my hope this episode helps in some small way. 

The Relatable Leader podcast is here to help you optimize your skills and passion to increase job satisfaction, productivity, effectiveness, and influence! Please be sure to review the back-log of episodes and seek out titles of interest to you. In this episode I interview management consultant, Liz Kislik. She was generous with her knowledge and insights! This is a must-listen episode for anyone filling a leadership role.  Show notes: The Relatable Leader Blog Connect with Catherine Goggia: http://www.relatableleader.com/  

In this episode you will learn about interviewing questions that help you identify candidate talents. Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! We appreciate you recommending this podcast to your coworkers. This podcast is produced to help you optimize your skills and passion so you can increase your job satisfaction level to become more productive and effective in your role.  Episode show notes: https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/43426151/posts/2412531310 Get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=catherine+goggia&ref=nb_sb_noss

"Experience, intelligence, and drive matter, but we should prioritize talent." Buckingham & Coffman. Managers and supervisors need to know exactly what talents they need in each role. In fact, they should understand their own talents and how they uniquely fit in the culture of their organization. Then they can work with HR to design an interview process focused on hiring the right talents for the job.  #relatableleader #worksmartlivehappy Purchase Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon. Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast and for sharing with your coworkers. 

"The ONLY way to generate enduring profits is to build the kind of work environment that attracts, focuses, and keeps talented employees." from The Service Profit Chain. Listen and develop your action plan and employee survey to measure your organization's effectiveness at keeping "A" players engaged. More resources to support your leadership success: http://www.relatableleader.com/ Articles and resources specific to areas of interest outside of work: https://worksmartlivehappy.com/ Creative endeavors beyond job performance and leadership: http://www.catherinegoggia.com/  

In this episode I answer 2 questions: "How should I respond to an employee who always plays the victim?" and "How much time should I spend listening to an employee who can't focus because of drama in their personal life?" I also share how I recently used time lapse video to highlight employees and their work processes.  My camera gear articles and direct links:  https://worksmartlivehappy.com/ Resources to support your leadership success:  http://www.relatableleader.com/ Thank you for listening to the Relatable Leader podcast and supporting this work through Patreon!  

Your organization cannot afford too many people who play the role of victim or too many people who talk about what could or should be done, but who don't execute action plans in a timely manner. This episode provides some self-assessment questions you can ask to ensure you hold yourself accountable for outcomes, and are open to tag-teaming with someone else at your organization to create joint accountability.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast and for recommending this podcast to your coworkers.  Visit these websites for more information and resources: http://www.relatableleader.com/ http://www.catherinegoggia.com/ https://worksmartlivehappy.com/

Training is expensive. When we take time to train employees who then quit, it gets VERY expensive. Many employees quit because they don't excel quickly enough to feel valued by their supervisors and managers. Or, they don't feel engaged because without being given higher levels of work, "busy" work is shoved on them. This situation can lead to less engagement and productivity. Imagine this: what if, on their first day on the job, new hires felt as if they were learning quickly and contributing right away? How do you think that would make them feel? How do you think that would make their supervisors and trainers feel? Listen to this inspiring episode with Shawn Volland and start to envision how hiring him might help you sustain high performing employees while bringing new hires "up to speed" more quickly than ever before. Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast, and for recommending this show to your coworkers.  #relatableleader #worksmartlivehappy #catherinegoggia #buttecollege #thetrainingplace #jobskills #job training #jobrelations #osha #TWI

When was the last time you had an entire day to yourself to do or not do whatever you wanted to do or not do? Even though we have the weekend to, in theory, take a break, many of us don't take a break because that's the time to hurry up and accomplish all the things we didn't have time to take care of during the week. If you have kids who aren't old enough to take public transportation or drive on their own, you might be running them around. You might be facing weekend crowds to take care of errands. You might be hiding out in the garage or sneaking in some video games before you are faced with the "honey do" list. You might be scrambling to get the laundry done and get the house in order before the next weekly life cycle hits. Life can get busy and taking one day a week for yourself is important for your well-being. #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #worksmartlivehappy Purchase Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon.  Thank you for listening and subscribing, and recommending The Relatable Leader podcast. 

On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the highest, how would you rate your emotional stamina today? Are you able to face unforeseen circumstances throughout your work day without getting so depleted you can't do good work? Are you able to face difficult coworkers without coming undone? When things take you by surprise, are you able to respond appropriately?  Are you taking good care of your body? Are you able to maintain productive energy throughout your entire work shift? Do you have the physical strength to get out of bed every day with enthusiasm and maintain your physical strength all day long? Are you as active as you should be? Are you proud of your body in terms of physical stamina? Are you sitting on the side lines with your kids or grandchildren, or are you actively participating in life? 

Do you have financial freedom? What is your plan for getting out of debt? Do you prioritize paying off debt before making unnecessary purchases? Suzie Orman advises us to, "Live below your means and within your needs." Unfortunately, too many of us follow the, "when you make more money you spend more money," program and, as a consequence, we aren't building our savings and investments. Who is your financial mentor? If you don't have a financial mentor, reach out in some way to gain valuable financial training. 

How would you describe your typical morning? Do you think your mornings set you up for a positive state of being on most days? When you arrive at work at your best, why is that? What have you done to create that success state? When you dread leaving the house or don't feel ready to face the work day, why is that? What actions are you taking or not taking that set you up to operate at less than your best? In this episode you will learn about 5 key points to consider as you establish a meaningful morning ritual.  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia @worksmartlivehappy #inspiration #motivation  Purchase Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon today. 

Are your values driving you to be a champion in your life? If you were boarding a ship and the captain greeted you by telling you there was no rudder on the boat and no common rules of engagement for passengers - lying, cheating, stealing, and taking advantage of others would be encouraged, would you get on that boat? If you interviewed for a job and the HR manager told you most of the day you'd be doing something you don't like, would you take that job? If most of your friends and family took advantage of you for several years in a row, would you continue allowing them in your life? If, when you got home each night you were made to support things you don't believe in, would you want to live there? You filter your world view, decisions and actions, and impressions of others through your values.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast. You can purchase Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon.  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #worksmartlivehappy #personalgrowth #inspiration #motivation

You might be familiar with this quote from Michelangelo: "The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark." Have you given this message personal thought and focus recently? We must not worry about what others think as we choose to make the most of this incredible life. Who knows what you might discover when you create forward momentum and bust out of any aspect of your comfort zone or fear that might be holding you back!  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast and recommending this podcast to others. You can get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon.  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #worksmartlivehappy #inspiration #motivation    

Each of us has a limited amount of time and energy. If you have to waste energy tolerating situations and behaviors that are not okay, that you shouldn't have to tolerate - then you have less energy and time for those aspects of your life that bring you joy and fuel a thriving life. Don't zap energy away from your talents and passions: stop tolerating the intolerable.  If you haven't already listened to the first two episodes of this ten day challenge, please circle back and catch that content. Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast and recommending this podcast to your coworkers. You can purchase your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon.  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #worksmartlivehappy #personalgrowth #inspiration #motivation

Why should you define and communicate your boundaries? So you can feel respect and create a respectful environment for all of your relationships. When people do not communicate their boundaries, they sometimes fall into passive aggressive behavior patterns or end up resenting some of the people in their life because they aren't getting their needs met. Or, maybe you have communicated your boundaries, but people continued the same boundary-crossing behaviors that are not okay for you, forcing you to make a tough decision.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! If you choose to, I appreciate you recommending the podcast to your coworkers. You can purchase Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon.  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #worksmartlive happy #selfimprovement #inspiration  

This is day one of the 10 Day Challenge to Build or Strengthen Your Personal Foundation. There will be a new episode each work day for two weeks as we cover the ten steps. Thank you for recommending this podcast to your coworkers and friends!  As you define success for yourself, it's important not to compare yourself to others. While some people might live a certain lifestyle representing success according to social norms, maybe that's not at all what you want for yourself. The key is to be clear about what you DO want and take action toward that vision. This episode provides examples and guidelines for taking this important step in building and maintaining a strong personal foundation.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast!  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #selfimprovement #lifegoals #careergoals

Jason provides insights and alternative views of coworker relationships. He was generous with his time as he talked with me about his work focused on building deep levels of trust and extraordinary coworker relationships. Jason is an author, TEDx speaker, team building facilitator through the product he has launched, and a leadership consultant. Employees in every role will benefit from listening to this episode and considering how you can apply Jason's guidance as you strive to build stronger relationships with the people in your life and retain your most valuable employees.  #jasontreu  #catherinegoggia #relatableleader Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! Get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon:  https://www.amazon.com/s?k=catherine+goggia&ref=nb_sb_noss Get more information and links to additional resources on The Relatable Leader website:  http://www.relatableleader.com/  

Team huddles and meetings don't need to be boring. Surprise people by bringing in content that inspires, is thought-provoking, or makes them laugh. This episode provides examples of the types of content you can use. Remember this: you don't always have to be the person to bring this type of content meetings. You can assign different employees to participate in each meeting by asking THEM to bring in a quote or some historical information related to the topic.  I invite you to visit The Relatable Leader website for additional resources to support your success: http://www.relatableleader.com/ #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #worksmartlivehappy Get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=catherine+goggia&ref=nb_sb_noss_2  

Even if writing is not part of your core job responsibility, writing is an important representation of your thoughts. Most of us are writing email daily, and many of us have additional writing contributions in our roles. The five writing tips in this episode will help you organize your thoughts and improve the quality of your written - and possibly verbal - messages.  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #professionalwritingskills Get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon!

Several decades ago I photographed a tree on the coast that was the first photograph to sell at a show I had at the time. The roots of the tree were exposed because it was on the edge of a cliff that had been eroded by the Pacific Ocean. Thinking about that tree inspired this episode in which I talk about the importance of knowing how you stay rooted while growing up and out in a global environment. Listen and think about why it's important for you to THINK BIGGER! #relatableleader http://www.relatableleader.com/ #catherinegoggia http://www.catherinegoggia.com/ Get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=catherine+goggia&ref=nb_sb_noss #WORKSMARTLIVEHAPPY

My Team Lead and Supervisor Readiness training is a three-hour workshop. In this episode you will hear excerpts from a recent workshop I facilitated for about 60 employees from the same organization. This organization works with animals after disasters, and since I love animals so much, I agreed to offer the training on a Sunday morning, which was the best time for them. After the Camp Fire I donated several kennels and blankets through a friend of mine who volunteered with this group after The Camp Fire.  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia 

"When your business is going through transformation, it takes more than heroic leadership, a bulletproof strategy, or a newly reconfigured org chart to succeed. For organizational change to deliver the competitive performance and inspired workforce you envision, you need to address the WHOLE picture – your strategy, your organization, and your leadership." Navalent Website It was interesting and fun to talk with Ron Carrucci and benefit from his perspective and humor regarding leadership. His ability to discuss the highs and lows of organization transformation and facing leadership challenges impressed me because he is not saying the same old things so many leadership consultants say. I think you'll enjoy his down-to-earth candor and believe he provides a platter full of food for thought.  Get the freebie ebook from Navalent here: Transformation By Navalent Read Ron Carrucci's Harvard Business Review article here:  4 Ways Lying Becomes Normal at a Company Contact Ron and discuss how he might assist your organization: Contact Ron Carrucci at Navalent Get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon: Live It - Mastering Positive Attitude Habits Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! If you choose to write one, we appreciate your positive review on whichever platform you use to listen to podcasts.  #relatableleader #relatableleaderpodcast #catherinegoggia

Listen and learn about different types of stress, the three stages of stress, and the recommended steps for dealing with stress. This is an important episode because stress can make it difficult for the body to perform functions that ordinarily could be performed easily or with your typical effort. Prolonged stress can lead to ongoing anxiety.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! If you would consider leaving a positive review, I very much appreciate it!  Get your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=catherine+goggia #catherinegoggia #relatableleader #stressmanagement

This episode: songs and tips dedicated to people directly impacted by The Camp Fire. Anyone who has gone through significant loss knows how stress and grief can impact your thinking and ability to concentrate. In Butte County and the surrounding areas, the impact of 30-50 thousand people in shock and on the move continues to be difficult to comprehend. Those of you in other parts of the country and around the world who have lived through disasters know better than we do how long true recovery can take.  In my work as an employee trainer, I have seen the impact of The Camp Fire on many organizations and the people who work there. The people directly impacted by the fire and their coworkers continue to find their way, forced to make big adjustments. Our health care facilities are still overloaded, retraining programs for those who are now unemployed are struggling to keep up with demand, and many are still in limbo, unsure of what the future will look like.  I put together some tips for dealing with these crazy times and training participants were so appreciative, I wanted to do something to get the information out to more people. That led me to being the guest DJ on Terre Reynolds' show, Face the Music, on KZFR. In this episode I share coping tips and songs I hope will help, or at least be enjoyable, for anyone struggling with stress and grief as they move forward in their lives.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast. #relatableleader #catherinegoggia You can purchase Catherine Goggia's book, "LIVE IT! Mastering Positive Attitude Habits", on Amazon. Click here to learn more: Get Your Books Here #campfire #buttestrong #paradisestrong

Karen Walker wrote the book, "No Dumbing Down, A No-Nonsense Guide for CEOs on organization growth. I think supervisors and managers, as well as C-suitors, can expand their viewpoint by reading her book and listening to this episode. After all, you don't want to be the person on the team who is stuck and requiring others to work at a lower level instead of inspiring them to take the organization to new heights! Listen to this interview to hear her thoughts on questions relevant to these subjects, plus lots more! Product/market fit How to know if your team is doing their best work How to plan for sustainable growth Organization agility Purchase Karen's book here: No Dumbing Down Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast. If you choose to leave a positive review, I really appreciate it! #relatableleader Get your copies of Catherine's books on Amazon today: Get Your Goggia Books Here!  

Defining specific criteria by which to measure the validity and potential profitability of your ideas is key to wise decision making. The criteria ensures we aren't playing favorites when investing in ideas, or leaning toward our personal preferences instead of what might be healthiest for the organization. After reading, "Let My People Go Surfing," by Patagonia founder and owner, Yvone Chouinard, I immediately modified the question set I use for the organization I consult with. In this episode I highlight questions from their production philosophy, offering brief input from me, and suggesting how the questions might be modified for services. The book provides loads of detailed content on all their philosophies and I recommend it for any manager, marketing team member, or innovation team members.  If you find value in The Relatable Leader Podcast, please consider making a donation of any amount to Catherine Goggia's Venmo account. Your sponsorship ensures the program will continue by helping to offset production and syndication costs. Use PODCAST as your subject. Thank you so much! Thank you so much! Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! I appreciate YOU.  Show notes for this episode:  https://interpersonalevolution.wordpress.com/2019/03/30/10-questions-to-guide-your-product-decisions/

Talk to win at work by listening to this episode and considering how your word choice might be influencing collaboration between genders and departments. Highlighted is the vocabulary chapter in Gail Evans' book, "Play Like a Man, Win Like a Woman". I encourage you to think beyond gender, and pay attention to how people in different roles respond differently to certain words and phrases. What one person considers to be a neutral or factual word, might negatively trigger someone in a different department because they might interpret the word from a different perspective. How might our relationships improve if we better understand negative triggers for other people, and agree to common use of terms within our organizations?  #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #gailevans  Get Catherine Goggia's books on amazon: *CLICK* HERE - Get Your Books

How much easier the work place might be if you could say the same thing to everyone and get your message across in a way that inspires collaboration. However, communication is complex because we are a combination of communication, conflict, learning, personality, and other styles, including temperament. Listen to this episode to hear specific examples of how you might communicate to the different temperaments and gain support.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast. If the spirit moves you, please provide a positive review so others might be inspired to listen.  Get Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon!  https://www.amazon.com/s?k=catherine+goggia&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 #relatableleader

Rebecca Zucker is in the business of helping leaders and their teams step into new challenges, create alignment, and accelerate results. As an executive and career development coach, her client list includes Amazon, Clorox, Dropbox, Ebay, Expedia, and Google. Listen to this episode to hear some of the leadership guidance these companies seek from her. I recommend leaders in the C-Suite contact her and her impressive team of coaches to define the next steps for your organization.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #rebeccazucker #nextstepspartners Get Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon today!

Being good at a task does not automatically equate to being good at teaching the task. Grouping your training content into the mechanics of a task and the interpersonal competencies to succeed in the work is useful when organizing your training content. Using a sports model can make your training relevant to individual employees in an interesting way. Plus, this training approach might make training employees more fun for YOU! Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader Podcast. We appreciate you taking time to post a review so the podcast might benefit more people.  #realtableleader #catherinegoggia  Purchase your copies of Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon. 

Every organization faces this challenging question: how can we attract more people to our products or services? When Roger Nierenburg, orchestra conductor, was faced with that question, he launched a leadership training program that immediately broadened the audience for orchestra music. No mater what industry you are in, this episode is sure to get you thinking about your workplace behaviors and leadership perspectives. And the value bonus is to challenge you in getting more creative in your approach to drawing more customers to your business while simultaneously enhancing their appreciation of the products or services through which you serve them.  Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! #relatableleader #catherinegoggia #rogernierenburg #themusicparadigm Learn more about the resources Catherine provides at:  http://www.relatableleader.com/ Learn more about The Music Paradigm here:  http://www.musicparadigm.com/

This is your opportunity to apply insights from Steven Morris to your own life and thrive personally and professionally. Long-time Relatable Leader listeners will recognize, as I quickly did, that Steven and I are kindred spirits and the conversation was enjoyable for me from the start! Steven's team of brand strategists "partner with courageous leaders to build lasting relationships for their businesses and brands". Learn more about how the Mth Degree team can support your organization evolution here:  The Mth Degree See Steven's, "The Beautiful Business" TedX talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=504k72-U1r0 WORK SMART. LIVE HAPPY!© Purchase Catherine Goggia's books on Amazon:  https://www.amazon.com/s?k=catherine+goggia&ref=nb_sb_noss Thank you for listening and subscribing to The Relatable Leader podcast! #relatableleader #mthdegree #catherinegoggia #stevenmorris