Every week hosts Zach Martin, Bailey Curtis, & Kat Hunter will dive into everything Carolina Hurricanes hockey. From goals to roster moves, news, and everything else Hurricanes. That being said, make sure to grab your favorite Hurricanes jersey, some barbeque, and a Storm Brew because that's hockey baby.
The Carolina Hurricanes advance to Round 2 of the 2025 NHL Playoffs. Kat, Zach, & the Paid Intern recap the series victory of the New Jersey Devils.
The Carolina Hurricanes take a 2-0 lead over the New Jersey Devils in Round 1 of the 2025 NHL Playoffs. Kat and Zach discuss their likes and dislikes from the series so far
We preview the Carolina Hurricanes vs. New Jersey Devils 1st Round NHL Playoff Matchup with Neil Villapiano.
Kat & Zach are back this week to discuss the Hurricanes & Capitals brawls that led to 8 ejections, Jalen Chatfield not getting suspended, Nikishin Watch is officially on, the Canes can sweep the Rangers this season, and the 7th straight playoff appearance for your Carolina Hurricanes!
Kat & Zach are joined by Ray of The Storm Cellar to discuss the Canes closing in on their 7th Straight Playoff Appearance, Fight for 2nd in the Eastern Conference, & Ovi's unlikely shot at history in Raleigh
Kat is joined by the Paid Intern to talk Canes U-23 players, recapping the California Trip, the Battle for 2nd place in the East, and this weekend's home games!
Zach is joined by Paid Intern Richie to discuss the Canes 7 game winning streak, preview the road trip to California, & roundup additional Hurricanes news
In this week's episode, Kat & Zach break down everyone's comments following the Mikko Rantanen trade, the Canes 5 game winning streak, hot goaltending, + more!
Emergency Podcast: The Carolina Hurricanes Trade Mikko Rantanen to the Dallas Stars & we are here to recap it all!
On today's episode, Kat & Zach discuss if the Canes will flip Mikko Rantanen, react to the Lenovo Center renovation renderings, and preview upcoming Canes games.
The Carolina Hurricanes return from the 4 Nations Face-Off break in a slump. However, this will not lead to the team trading Mikko Rantanen after Carolina has offered him a contract extension worth $100,000,000+.
Carolina Hurricanes Insider Walt Ruff joins the show to discuss the 24-25 season for the Canes, the 4 Nations Face-Off, and what to expect for the rest of the season from the team
Kat & Zach recap the Carolina Hurricanes games vs. Minnesota & Utah, Preview the 4 Nations Face-Off, and give their takes on who will win some of the top NHL Awards this season
After a great episode with Mike & Shane and the 4 Nations break approaching, Kat & Zach recap the Chicago & LA Kings games & preview the Minnesota & Utah games
The SurgeCast x CanesCast crossover episode! Mike Maniscalco + (eventually) Shane Willis join the pod to discuss Winnipeg adventures, Rantanen + Hall's impact, the Canes 24-25 season so far + so much more!
With two games as Hurricanes, we discuss the impacts of Mikko Rantanen & Taylor Hall in Carolina, recap the past few games, and look ahead to Tuevo Teravainen's return to the Lenovo Center
THE CAROLINA HURRICANES TRADE FOR MIKKO RANTANEN AND TAYLOR HALL
Kat & Zach break down if Carolina would actually pull the trigger for JT Miller, who should be added to the Canes' Quarter-Century Team, and recapping the Canes 3 game winning streak.
HUGE show this week as we discuss the Carolina Hurricanes inconsistencies this season, vent about the Winter Classic, look ahead to Eric Staal's jersey retirement on Sunday, and so much more
Kat & Zach share their likes/dislikes from the Carolina Hurricanes games vs the New York Islanders and San Jose Sharks, Canes in the 4 Nations Face-Off, and preview the remaining games in the current home stand at the Lenovo Center.
The crew reunites in person once more! Kat, Zach, and Bailey preview Thursday night's game against the Colorado Avalanche, which features a guest appearance from Conor McGahey, the play-by-play announcer for the Colorado Avalanche on Altitude Sports Radio. They also discuss the last performance from the Hurricanes and discuss the matchup between Nathan MacKinnon and Martin Necas, who are both striving to be the NHL points leader (+more!). Gametime: Use code "THPN" for $20 off your first purchase. DraftKings: Use code "THPN" and bet $5 to get $150 back in bonus bets if your bet hits. PrimoX Hockey: Use code "SURGECAST" at checkout for $20 your order.
Zach and Bailey are on today's episode to discuss the Carolina Hurricanes win over the New York Rangers, back-to-back losses vs. the Florida Panthers, Martin Necas is the NHL's 1st Start of the Month, and previewing the upcoming Seattle Kraken & Colorado Avalanche games.
Kat & Zach discuss the return of Seth Jarvis in the Canes comeback win vs. Dallas, looking ahead to the New York Rangers & Florida Panthers games this week, and taking a look at potential goaltenders if Eric Tulsky wanted to make a trade.
Kat & Bailey are back again as they discuss the potential for Martin Necas to win the Hart Trophy, the Canes actually get recognized by ESPN in the Future Power Rankings, a look ahead to upcoming Metro Division matchups, + more!
In this week's episode, Kat & Bailey talk about the Carolina Hurricanes 8 game winning streak coming to an end, Sebastian Aho's struggles, trying to understand what goaltender interference is, and a look ahead to the Canes first ever game in Utah.
The Carolina Hurricanes are off to a HOT start to the season. Zach & Kat discuss their early season standouts, additional likes/dislikes, and how Pyotr Kochetkov has looked in goal with Freddie Andersen injured (+more!)
Kat, Zach, and Bailey discuss the Canes loss vs. Tampa Bay, win vs. New Jersey, and predict how the trip out West for the State Fair will go.
Walt Ruff joins Kat & Zach to discuss Jackson Blake's preseason, expectations for the Canes this season, the Starter's Crease + more!
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In Season 4, Episode 6 of The SurgeCast, Kat, Bailey, & Zach are joined by Shane Willis to discuss:- Alumni Game vs UNC Club Hockey- Junior Canes- The Hurricanes as a Whole- Skydiving+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey)Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKingsThis episode is brought to you by Better Help. Go to betterhelp.com/THPN for 10% offTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 4, Episode 6 of The SurgeCast, Kat, Bailey, & Zach are joined by Shane Willis to discuss: - Alumni Game vs UNC Club Hockey - Junior Canes - The Hurricanes as a Whole - Skydiving + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey) Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKings This episode is brought to you by Better Help. Go to betterhelp.com/THPN for 10% off To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 4, Episode 5 of The SurgeCast, Kat, Bailey, & Zach are joined by Carolina Hurricanes Play-By-Play Mike Maniscalco to discuss:- Canes National TV Games- Jesper Fast + Freddie Andersen- Seth Jarvis Extension- Maniscalco Interview+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey)Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKingsThis episode is brought to you by Better Help. Go to betterhelp.com/THPN for 10% offTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 4, Episode 5 of The SurgeCast, Kat, Bailey, & Zach are joined by Carolina Hurricanes Play-By-Play Mike Maniscalco to discuss: - Canes National TV Games - Jesper Fast + Freddie Andersen - Seth Jarvis Extension - Maniscalco Interview + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey) Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKings This episode is brought to you by Better Help. Go to betterhelp.com/THPN for 10% off To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 4, Episode 4 of The SurgeCast, Kat, Bailey, & Zach are joined by Kyle Manifold to discuss:- Honoring Johnny & Matthew GaudreauDonate:KidSport Calgary & Area: kindsportscanada.caFoundation Ohio Health: foundation.ohiohealth.comCalgary Flames Foundation: calgaryflamesfoundation.comColumbus Blue Jackets Foundation: nhl.com/bluejackets/community/foundationSupport Madeline and Baby Tripp After Tragedy: gofundme.com/f/support-madeline-and-baby-tripp-after-tragedyTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 4, Episode 4 of The SurgeCast, Kat, Bailey, & Zach are joined by Kyle Manifold to discuss: - Honoring Johnny & Matthew Gaudreau Donate: KidSport Calgary & Area: kindsportscanada.ca Foundation Ohio Health: foundation.ohiohealth.com Calgary Flames Foundation: calgaryflamesfoundation.com Columbus Blue Jackets Foundation: nhl.com/bluejackets/community/foundation Support Madeline and Baby Tripp After Tragedy: gofundme.com/f/support-madeline-and-baby-tripp-after-tragedy To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 4, Episode 3 of The SurgeCast, Kat & Bailey are joined by Carolina Hurricanes President Doug Warf to discuss:- Doug Warf Interview- TDA to KHL Rumors- Canes 5K- Could See Nikishin as Soon as Spring 2025+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey)Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped)Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKingsThis episode is brought to you by Better Help. Go to betterhelp.com/THPN for 10% offTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 4, Episode 3 of The SurgeCast, Kat & Bailey are joined by Carolina Hurricanes President Doug Warf to discuss: - Doug Warf Interview - TDA to KHL Rumors - Canes 5K - Could See Nikishin as Soon as Spring 2025 + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey) Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped) Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKings This episode is brought to you by Better Help. Go to betterhelp.com/THPN for 10% off To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 4, Episode 2 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Bailey discuss: - Drury & Necas Extensions - ECHL News - Eric Staal Retiring as a Hurricane & Jersey Retirement Announcement + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey) Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped) Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKings To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 4, Episode 2 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Bailey discuss:- Drury & Necas Extensions- ECHL News- Eric Staal Retiring as a Hurricane & Jersey Retirement Announcement+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey)Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped)Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKingsTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In the Season 4, Episode 1 Premiere of The SurgeCast, Zach, Kat, & Bailey discuss: - 2024 NHL Free Agency - Jaccob Slavin Extension - Rod Brind'Amour Hockey Hall of Fame Snub + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey) Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped) Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKings To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the Season 4, Episode 1 Premiere of The SurgeCast, Zach, Kat, & Bailey discuss:- 2024 NHL Free Agency- Jaccob Slavin Extension- Rod Brind'Amour Hockey Hall of Fame Snub+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey)Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped)Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKingsTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 3, Episode 43 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss: - Eric Tulsky as New GM - Jalen Chatfield Extension - Possible Seth Jarvis & Jaccob Slavin Deals + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey) Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped) Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKings To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 3, Episode 43 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss:- Eric Tulsky as New GM- Jalen Chatfield Extension- Possible Seth Jarvis & Jaccob Slavin Deals+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey)Use Code "THPN" for 20% Off + Free Shipping with Manscaped (@manscaped)Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKingsTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 3, Episode 42 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss: - Exit Interviews - Slavin Wins Hardware - Offseason Predictions + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey) Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKings To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 3, Episode 42 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss:- Exit Interviews- Slavin Wins Hardware- Offseason Predictions+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey)Use Code "THPN" when betting on DraftKingsTo keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 3, Episode 41 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss:- Goaltending- Review Canes vs Rangers Series+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey).To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 3, Episode 41 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss: - Goaltending - Review Canes vs Rangers Series + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey). To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Season 3, Episode 40 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss:- Recap Round 1- Updates Surrounding the Canes- Series Prediction for Canes v Rangers+ much moreUse Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek)Download the Draft Kings app and use code "THPN" for specials. Follow them at @DraftKings on X.Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey).To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast).Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast).https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast.
In Season 3, Episode 40 of The SurgeCast, Zach & Kat discuss: - Recap Round 1 - Updates Surrounding the Canes - Series Prediction for Canes v Rangers + much more Use Code "THESURGECAST" to get $20 off your first order with Seat Geek at seatgeek.com. Follow Seat Geek on X (@SeatGeek) Download the Draft Kings app and use code "THPN" for specials. Follow them at @DraftKings on X. Check out Primo X Hockey at primoxhockey.com and use code "SURGECAST" for 20% off your order. Follow them on Twitter along with their Instagram (@PrimoXHockey). To keep up to date with the Canes, follow Zach on X (@OneTrueZach), Bailey on X (@BaileyyCurtis), Kat on X (@CaniacChic), and the podcast (@TheSurgeCast). Check out the podcast on Instagram and YouTube (@thesurgecast). https://linktr.ee/TheSurgeCast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices