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In this episode, we take to the airwaves with two special guests — and fellow podcasters — Joanne Sandler and Idelisse Malavé. Their thought-provoking program, Two Old Bitches, is dedicated to telling the stories of remarkable women. Discover how these dynamic hosts navigate the digital landscape to share powerful conversations, celebrate aging, and challenge stereotypes. Senior Planet from AARP is a community of people 60 and older who are learning to thrive in the digital world. Senior Planet programs are offered free of charge online and in-person to help older adults build technology skills to allow them to improve their health, make new friendships, save money, and advocate in their communities. To learn more, visit www.seniorplanet.org or follow @SeniorPlanet on social media.
Feminist thinkers, activists and authors Idelisse Malavé, 74, and Joanne Sandler, 70, created and host Two Old Bitches, a podcast featuring conversations with women in the second half of life whose perspectives and experiences disrupt what it means to be “old” and reclaim what it means to be a “bitch.” Over the past six seasons they have welcomed edgy progressive activists, a zen priest, performers, filmmakers, visual artists, scholars, a chef, journalists and writers, politicians, and more. These women make their own rules – whether it's about politics, love, sex, art, work, family or fashion. They haven't stopped rebelling, re-imagining and reinventing themselves. If anything, they are bolder with age. In this their seventh season, Joanne and Idelisse share more older women's stories that explode myths about gender and aging and re-define what it means to be a woman at any age. Joanne, former Deputy Executive Director of the UN Development Fund for Women-UNIFEM), co-wrote Gender at Work: Theory and Practice for 21st Century Organizations. Idelisse, a public interest lawyer, manager and consultant, authored two books, Mother Daughter Revolution and Latino Stats, the latter with her daughter. And just for the record, by B.I.T.C.H., they mean: Being In Total Charge of Herself.
Look around you and you'll find many conversations about reimagining and transforming how we live and work – from how we enable the plant to thrive, to new ways of envisioning economics. And in all kinds of organizations, we are seeing real challenges to what was previously unchecked - abusive power dynamics, toxic work environments, sexual harassment, racism, and discrimination against all kinds of people who don't fit what was considered ‘the norm'. In this episode – the first in a series of three - Srilatha Batliwala, David Kelleher, Lisa Veneklasen, Joanne Sandler and Aruna Rao reflect on the their close encounters with patriarchy in organizations and the dynamics they tried to ignite to challenge them which they outlined in their article on Medium. They touch on what they learned, discuss what dilemmas they faced in their imperfect offerings, and strategies and what questions they have in this moment of change and upheaval. Come listen to their stories as they draw on their collective experiences to talk about what was aligned with their principles and what contradicted them in their leadership practice. Most of all, we hope this encourages you to tell us your stories. Please write to us at genderatworkpodcast@gmail.com
Two Old Bitches: Stories from Women who Reimagine, Reinvent and Rebel
Two Old Bitches co-hosts and friends, Joanne Sandler and Idelisse Malavé, were invited by the wonderful and popular Call Your Girlfriend podcast to have a conversation about their decades long friendship. As part of a series, “Summer of Friendship”, CYG asked a few of their favorite podcasters — we're honored! — to tell them how they met, times their friendship has been stretched, and how they grow together. Idelisse and Joanne's episode is available at CYG wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also listen to it here as a special, bonus episode.
As we continue our Summer of Friendship series, a few of our favorite podcasters tell us how they met, times their friendship has been stretched, and how they grow together. This week, Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler aka Two Old Bitches! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On the eve of the Generation Equality Forum (GEF) in Paris, Aruna Rao and Joanne Sandler – veterans of the 1995 Beijing conference – have an intergenerational talk with three young activists: Priya Kvam and Amani Jui from Breakthrough US and Natalia Escruceria Price, an independent consultant formerly with JASS. Our exchange with these young activists highlights our differing vantage points on a number of ideas, from patriarchy to transnational organizing to how we understand current and future challenges to gender equality. Join us for a thoughtful conversation and email us to let us know what you think!
SummaryHow does Feminist Leadership ‘perform' when a leader has to make hard choices?How well has feminist leadership served organizations during the past year of the pandemic-related crisis, or other periods of crisis?What kind of worthy values and interests might ‘compete' with those called for by feminist leadership, and how should leaders resolve this?I discussed these topics during an interview with Joanne Sandler, senior associate at Gender at Work, and former leader at UN Women. Joanne's BioSenior associate at Gender at Work, a consulting and training agency which works with organizations that wish to contribute to gender equality and to advance feminist leadership.Independent consultantCo-producer of podcast Two Old Bitches which captures the experiences of women over 50 who reinvent, reimagine, and rebel. Former Deputy Executive Director at UN Women/UNIFEMSpecial advisor to assistant secretary-General of UN Women Quotes“Sometimes you have to be willing to play the positional power game." We discussed: The differences between ‘power over' - the traditional view on leadership --, ‘power with' and ‘power to': different ways of understanding power The life of ‘femocrats' - feminist bureaucrats in large multilateral organizations like the UN, World Bank, and WTO Why hierarchical power intrinsically emphasizes inequality within organizations, and how to minimize this How to use your privilege for the good of the broader organization and mission What happens when the expectations about how leaders should behave, which come from national cultures, bump into expectations coming from feminist leadership models. And how an understanding of intersectionality and leading with purpose can help resolve this. ResourcesJoanne has co-authored a book named 'Gender at Work: Theory and Practice for 21st Century Organizations' which is available at several online booksellers, including this one.Website: www.genderatwork.org Joanne's LinkedIn profileGender at Work Podcast Click here to subscribe to be alerted when new podcast episodes come out or when Tosca produces other thought leadership pieces.Or email Tosca at tosca@5oaksconsulting.org if you want to talk about your social sector organization's needs, challenges, and opportunities.You can find Tosca's content by following her on her social media channels: Twitter LinkedIn Facebook Youtube
We learned from 2020 that our ideas about how a particular year will play out, just because we have a plan, are figments of our imagination. In this episode, prominent women's rights activists look back at 2020 and forward to 2021, exploring new pathways for women's rights. Joanne Sandler, a senior associate of Gender at Work, interviews Anjum Sultana, national director of Public Policy and Strategic Communications at the YWCA Canada, and Sascha Gabizon, international director of Women Engage for a Common Future (WECF).
What's all this talk about feminist leadership? An interview with Abby Maxman, Oxfam America's CEO Feminist leadership seems to be in ascendance in the INGO sector. Now, our sector is a bit prone to fads and fashions -- so should we take this seriously? Is this leadership model here to stay? And what are its potential, its power as well as its limitations? This is what I explore in a short series of episodes about feminist leadership, which is starting with this interview with Abby Maxman, CEO of Oxfam America.Later in the series, I will interview Aruna Rao, Lisa Veneklaassen, and Joanne Sandler, while plans to interview Srilatha Batliwala are in the works. Quotes “Servant leadership does not always necessarily mean you to lead from behind (although this is often what's needed); it can sometimes also mean leading from the front” “Feminist leadership needs to be situational and adaptive to be helpful” “You need to be kind of heart but also tough of mind, at the same time” Feminist leadership obviously has the aspiration to contribute towards a gender-just society, both internally inside the organization, and externally. In this podcast series, I focus on how feminist leadership plays out as an organizational leadership model. According to Abby, feminist leadership among others is about being developmental towards other employees, bringing out the best in others. And it is about nurturing and seeking out the voices of all staff.Here is LinkedIn 's profile of Abby Maxman Click here to subscribe to be alerted when new podcast episodes come out or when Tosca produces other thought leadership pieces. Or email Tosca attosca@5oaksconsulting.orgif you want to talk about your social sector organization's needs, challenges, and opportunities. You can find Tosca's content by following her on her social media channels: Twitter LinkedIn Facebook
Two Old Bitches: Stories from Women who Reimagine, Reinvent and Rebel
TOB listeners probably know that co-host Joanne Sandler worked at the United Nations for nearly 20 years. One of the many UN stories that fascinated her was a famous sexual harassment case.: Catherine Claxton was a fairly junior UN staff member who brought charges against an Under-Secretary General for grabbing her in his office in 1988 and then blocking her career after she rebuffed him. Catherine’s courage and tenacity in the face of profound intimidation (she and her closest friend were shot at, her apartment was broken into, her office was ransacked, senior women in the UN joined together to support the perpetrator) are the stuff of motion pictures. Catherine passed away in 2009. To make sure that her story is remembered and to honor Catherine’s courage and colleagues who supported her, Joanne and Julie Thompson – another long-time UN staffer – interviewed scores of people, including her extraordinary pro-bono lawyers – Mary Dorman and Ellen Yaroshefsky. This episode of Two Old Bitches shares a curtain-opener for the 5-part radio series they hope to launch this Spring. While the story is 25-years old – and despite #metoo and Time’s Up -- the wall of patriarchy and privilege that Catherine confronted is almost as impenetrable today as it was then. (And, if you are (or know) a film producer/director, Joanne and Julie want to talk with you!)
In this practice, Joanne and Idelisse offer a writing exercise called "The Do-Over" to help process experiences of bias and discrimination, and to seed creativity and reflection. It connects the personal and political, and can be done alone or in a group. You'll need a piece of paper and something to write with. ----------- CONVERSATION: Download the episode prior to this one to hear Joanne & Idelisse talk about aging in the movement. They tell us about the secrets of bitchcraft, the importance of friendship and creativity, being unapologetically yourself, trusting yourself and others, tender transparency, the importance of having friends in every decade of life, play, and therapy (well maybe - that last one is contested). Subscribe/follow this podcast to make sure you never miss an entertaining & insightful conversation! ----------- ABOUT OUR GUESTS: Idelisse Malavé, 71, has been honing her bitchcraft for decades. A working class Puerto Rican immigrant raised in a middle-class, mostly Jewish, Brooklyn neighborhood, she graduated from Columbia Law School, defying expectations of who and what she could be to become a fierce social justice activist. After practicing public interest law in the 70s and 80s, she went on to lead progressive organizations – as Vice President of the Ms. Foundation and Executive Director of Tides Foundation – and wrote two books, Mother Daughter Revolution (Bantam) and Latino Stats (The New Press). Her motto these days is: “If it pleases me, I will.” Joanne Sandler, 67, is on an endless journey to find her bitchy voice. She’s written articles and books like Gender at Work (Routledge), How Feminists Change Bureaucracies and Bureaucracies Change Feminists (Oxford Press), Women’s Rights Have No Country (OpenDemocracy). A lifelong feminist, Joanne was ‘institutionalized’ for nearly two decades (as Deputy Executive Director of the UN Development Fund for Women-UNIFEM -- and many other women’s rights organizations). She’s traveled to more than 65 countries and now consults with Gender at Work. Her lifelong motto still applies ”Always leave while you’re still having a good time!” Together, Idelisse and Joanne host a podcast called Two Old Bitches. Learn more at http://www.twooldbitches.com ----------- JOIN THE CONVERSATION: Sign up for our email list to receive a free healing justice zine & resources for your work and wellbeing. Sign up here: http://www.healingjustice.org Join our virtual community at http://www.patreon.com/healingjustice Talk with us on social media: Instagram @healingjustice, Healing Justice Podcast on Facebook, & @hjpodcast on Twitter ----------- SHOW YOUR SUPPORT Please follow / subscribe, rate, & review in whatever app you are listening, and SHARE this resource with everyone you know who could benefit from it! Help us keep making this podcast by becoming a sustainer at www.patreon.com/healingjustice You can also give a one time donation here: https://secure.squarespace.com/commerce/donate?donatePageId=5ad90c0e03ce64d6028e01bb ----------- Thank you to our production team on this episode: Rachel Ishikawa for editing, Zach Meyer at the COALROOM for audio production and mastering, and Josiah Werning for graphic design.
This week we’re talking Aging in the Movement with Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler, extraordinary women leaders for global justice and co-hosts of the podcast Two Old Bitches. They tell us about the secrets of bitchcraft, the importance of friendship and creativity, being unapologetically yourself, trusting yourself and others, tender transparency, the importance of having friends in every decade of life, play, and therapy (well maybe - that last one is contested). This interview is hosted by Shawna Wakefield, a friend & member of the Healing Justice Podcast Advisory Circle. Learn more about Shawna and the Advisory Circle here: https://www.healingjustice.org/team By Idelisse & Joanne's definition, ‘BITCH” means “Being In Total Charge of Herself,” and their podcast Two Old Bitches celebrates kick-ass, unstoppable women over 50. They explode myths about gender and aging and re-define what it means to be a woman at any age. Learn more at http://www.twooldbitches.com ----------- PRACTICE: In the Practice episode (publishing next week), Joanne and Idelisse offer a practice called "The Do-Over" to help process experiences of bias and discrimination. Subscribe to/follow this podcast in whichever platform you're listening to make sure you don't miss it! ----------- One more week of Pleasure Activism Book Club!
It's almost 25 years since the landmark women's conference held in Beijing in 1995. What did women achieve at Beijing and what are some of the key new and unfinished feminist agendas? In this podcast Joanne Sandler, the former Deputy Director of Unifem and current senior associate G@W starts us off by tracing some of the intentions, magic and results from Beijing. Then we discuss the new and unfinished agendas in the area of LGBTQ rights, economic inequality and disarmament and human security with Menaka Guruswamy, from Columbia University who spearheaded the historic LGBT rights victory in the Indian Supreme court, Vasuki Nesiah from New York University who specializes in issues of public international law, human rights and economic justice; and Ray Acheson, who heads the disarmament program of the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom.
Today’s Women on the Line looks at sexual and gender based violence in international development and humanitarian organizations.The interviewees are Hendrica Okondo, who has 20 years of experience in humanitarian contexts within UN organizations; Robin Yaker, who has worked for the International Rescue Committee and Raising Voices; and Sarah Douglas, who is the deputy chief of peace and security at UN Women. Hosted by Joanne Sandler and Shawna Wakefield from the Gender at Work podcast, available at genderatworkpodcast.org With thanks to Frieda Werden of the Women's International News Gathering Service. Music:We Share Our Mother's Health - The KnifeBird Flu - M.I.A.
In 2015, Gender at Work founders and podcast hosts Aruna Rao and David Kelleher, along with Gender at Work Senior Associate, Joanne Sandler and Knowledge Strategist, Carol Miller, collaborated to write a book that has proven to be a must-read for feminists. Gender at Work: Theory and Practice for 21st Century Organizations is a culmination of four activists' dedication, experience and thought leadership developing and employing a holistic approach to improve gender equality globally. In this ninth episode, we speak with the authors behind this compelling book and take a deep dive into the Gender at Work Analytical Framework which forms its foundation. By offering our listeners a clear exposition of what we really mean by our analytical framework and "change matrix", the authors shed light on a force for change in both thinking and practice - and hence, hopefully in the lives of women and other oppressed genders around the world. You can purchase your copy of the book here!
First up we listen to a talk given at Laurel Books by lesbian feminist author and scholar Bonnie Morris about her new book The Feminist revolution, a Richly illustrated, engagingly written history of second-wave feminism and successor movements from the 1960s to the present. Then in the second half of the show Preeti Mangala Shekar talks to Aruna Rao, Joanne Sandler, David Kelleher and Carol Miller, authors of the new book “Gender at work: Theory and Practice for 21st century organizations” a book that looks at the deeper structures that create and reinforce gender inequality . The post Author Bonnie Morris and new book Gender at Work appeared first on KPFA.
Ellevate Podcast: Conversations With Women Changing the Face of Business
Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler want you to know that their age and gender do not define them. With their humorous podcast Two Old Bitches, they set out to celebrate amazing women over 50 and dispel the myths about aging. In this episode, Idelisse and Joanne discuss the importance of intersectional feminism, why it's great to enjoy and embrace being a woman at every age, and the ways women can stand up for themselves in the face of adversity.
Ellevate Podcast: Conversations With Women Changing the Face of Business
Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler want you to know that their age and gender do not define them. With their humorous podcast Two Old Bitches, they set out to celebrate amazing women over 50 and dispel the myths about aging. In this episode, Idelisse and Joanne discuss the importance of intersectional feminism, why it’s great to enjoy and embrace being a woman at every age, and the ways women can stand up for themselves in the face of adversity.
In this Episode: The Bartender sits down with Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler, the creators and co-hosts of the hit podcast, Two Old Bitches. The two talk about the evolution of their bitchery, the liberation that comes with running out of f$%ks, and how they accidentally became models for pee proof underwear.
Joanne has spent her life fighting for women's rights and gender equality across the globe. Over her 13 year tenure as the deputy director at the United Nations for Global Women's Issues, she helped raised dedicated budget from $18mm to over $200mm. She now writes books, and consults for agencies large and small, across the world, and continues helping oppressed women in every pocket of the globe. A fascinating woman who's lived a most extraordinary and important life.