Silver On the Sage

Today I chat with third generation Philmonter, Will Kemple-Taylor.  Both his grandparents and parents worked at the ranch.  And He grew up creek stomping in the Uracca, building forts in scrub oak, and embodying the notion of wild and untamed.  In this special episode to kick off summer, Will chats about youthful pranks gone wrong, the good vibes of backcountry shows, award winning Camp Directors, epic Phil-fiestas, a surprising twist after returning late from days off, the orchestration of scatter, and more.Philmont Experience2001 - Trek participant2003 - Maintenance2006 - PC Beaubien2007 - PC Pueblano2014 - Bear ResearcherNotable MentionsRobin Tate Walters (formerly Taylor)Rod & Patty TaylorJim TaylorRy TaylorMark GriffinKirsten AndersonMathias OlsonDawson EnloeMark and Linda Anderson Dave KennkeSteve RickKeith WaltersBucko CowdenSal HuddlestonLaney WilliamsCarter JohnsonDavid YoshidaKarl ZensenPhil LewisBryce BlankenshipAustin BestWill BarSalSlim Uribe GoertzMark EmdeDavid BurchfieldGretchen Kemple-TaylorDave WerhaneBob RickleffsSarah BurgessBenjamin Phillip CarluchePaul and Katherine BearensonSupport the show

Max Wang is a life long-Scouter and Eagle Scout.  His scouting journey has taken him from one cost to another, and today he continues to be active in Sea Scouts in Arlington, VA.  Max recounts impactful stories from his time on trek as a participant, and highlights the various transferable skills he learned while working in Logistics in 2017 - including emergency management and incident command.  All of which he utilized when he enlisted in the United States Coast Guard.  Philmont Experience2012 - Trek participant2014 - OA Trail Crew2017 - Logistics StaffNotable MentionsEric MartinezRegina EngleJohn Mark LampleyJosiah DevoeSid CovingtonSara SutterCory MullensGrant ReiglemanDavid O'NeillTom GuigniMark AndersonNate LaySupport the show

Mark joins the show to highlight the sustainable impact and dedicated work that the Philmont Service Corps has accomplished throughout the last year and a half.  In the second portion of our conversation, Mark shares a collection of stories from his many, many experiences at Philmont Scout Ranch.Philmont Experience: Trek - 1978 1979 1991 2022Rayado Trek - 19801981 Food Service1982 83 Ranger1984 Miners Park PC1985 Head Rock Dean Cow1986 88  CD Miners Park1987 CD  Cimarroncito1989 CD PonilPSA Trek 1992 93 95 97 98 99 2000 01 03 05 06 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 19 21 23PSA Service Corps Fall and Spring 2024PSA Life MemberMember of Scholarship CommitteePast PSA DirectorNotable Mentions:Harry OwensPierce RamseyBetty PechacoKen BlockDr. Van Allen McCarthy SistersJoey FernandazTom WashburneSam and Lucky FannamaJoy and Willa PendleyMitch StandardDave SchweerJoe SchmitDoug PalmerHolly SchweerKat HansenSteve HarmonyJoe LeizCharlie AldredgeTim GremigerBadger CookCliff WageyDean TooleyGary RichardsSupport the show

Today I want to highlight a parent perspective of the impact that Scouting can have on ones family.  Specifically the family of Tom and Georgia Stoeber. Tom is a 60 year veteran of the BSA, including 25 years working as a Scouting professional.  The values of Scouting and, in particular participating in Philmont treks - gave their children leadership skills, a can do attitude, confidence to engage in conversation, share new ideas, place high value on volunteering, and more.  Rayado Rose: The Roberta Birdie Jayne ScholarshipPhilmont Experience:1992 & 1994 - PTC Key Three Training 1994 - PTC Family Camp 2001 - OA Conference2016 - Central Region Retirees Reunion 2023 & 2025 - National Professional Retirees ReunionNotable MentionsDirty LarryDean TooleyGretchen StoeberTroy StoeberBonita TooleyClyde MayorHarold WhiteSupport the show

Molly Gatewood joins the show to highlight the important work of the Philmont Training Center Housekeeping department.  From bathrooms and luxury tents to the mailroom and Villa Philmonte, the housekeeping staff at Philmont is integral in delivering quality experiences for participants and staff alike.  As an avid Scouter - Molly praises the organization for creating opportunities for  youth to build character, learn new skills, socialize, travel, and grow in confidence. Philmont Experience:2019 - Trek participant2024 - PTC HousekeepingNotable Mentions:Marlin FuentesBen JenkinsSupport the show

Today Arizona Duff joins the show.  She discusses her first experience on trek, navigating the fundamental challenges and shifts that occur while on the trail.  Namely - several moments at Cypher's Mine where she began to feel the love of the Philmont staff family, as they invited her onto the stomp stage to play a tune.  Fast forward to 2018 - Arizona examines her journey in Timber Stand Improvement and becoming a certified Sawyer.  The experience grew her appreciation for the work it takes to be good stewards of this land we all love and share.Today, Arizona is working towards a PhD studying the history of work and labor music. She praises the Philmont music culture as a tool to share - not only history, but also encourage staff and participants to process feelings.  Philmont Experience:2014 - Regular Trek (South Country) 2015 - Rayado (1st session) 2016 - Hired TBA, Assigned PC Abreu 2017 - Ranger 1 2018 - Cypher's Mine / TSI Sawyer 2019 - CD French Henry 2020 - Hired as CD Pueblano (COVID)2021 - Hired as CD Pueblano (Had to decline due to family medical needs) Notable Mentions:Claire FickeBernard / AlexKatie GarrettMaggie McCullochJenna TrioneMarie MontegeauLauren Wendell ThomasMichael BrownPaul FrenchTucker BakerTrevor Lombardi Anna WashburneSara KopsaEmily BergmanAmber HollumBailey ColsonElizabeth DoyleAnna KruneKevin BeckerSpencer HarshRachel HennegBrian StokesJake TrioneAnne MaryDrew ChapmanRegina WalkerAdam GravesJessie NelsonKeagan FingerColleen McCullochEllyn Washburne RagerWill GarrisonEvan Stark DykemaSupport the show

This year, 2025, the Philmont Training Center will celebrate 75 years of service as the National Volunteer Training center for Scouting America.  To commemorate this milestone, PTC staff and volunteers are planning a summer long celebration including a special anniversary week from June 29 - July 5.  Today, Dennis Kampa and Nancy Farrell share details, schedules, history and more.Dennis Kampa email: denkampa@gmail.comPTC 75th Anniversary informationPhilmont Training Center The Calico StrayThe Other Side of the Road: The Story of the Philmont Training Center - originally published in 2009 (a revision will be published soon).  All proceeds have gone, and will continue to go to the Philmont Staff Association.Support the show

Today Kara Noonan Stevens joins the show to share her experiences on staff in the 90s and on staff last summer at the Welcome Center.  She describes the Welcome Center as "Philmont's Front Porch."  It's where all crews begin their Philmont journey, and hence makes an important first impression.  It's also a place where Welcome center staff can work hard and be able to relax enough to realize that its a good thing to not always be busy or hurried.  That you in fact can sit and watch the world go by.Episode Sponsor: Tom MunchPhilmont Experience1990 - Ranger / Rayado / Mountain Trek / Rent-A-Ranger1991 - Training Ranger1992 - CD Dan Beard1993 - CD Crooked CreekNotable Mentions:Steve HoodJenny McMannCindy WerhaneTerri HeimernJohn and Jenny CraigBuddy MorseBryce StevensEllwyn StevensTim RosseisenNick BlissTom MunchSupport the show

Dan and Karen Ashton met at Philmont in 1977, and recently celebrated 31 years of marriage.  Their story is untraditional and adventurous - much like the paths we traverse in the rugged backcountry hills.  The couple shares stories as though we were casually grouped around a campfire, like old friends do.  Philmont Experience Dan:1973 & 1974 – Trek participant1975 – Kit Carson Man Trek1976 – CHQ Dining Hall1977 – Beaubien CookPhilmont Experience Karen:1975, 77, & 78 – Trek participant1979 – CHQ Trading Post1983 – PTC Trading Post Assistant Manager1984 – PTC Tranding Post Manager2019 – Museum DocentNotable Mentions:Henry WicksenCharlie AldredgeDoug & Betty PalmerBill TateHans PetersonRod TaylorSteve ZimmerDave KennekeThe OttsDean TooleySupport the show

Happy birthday Silver On the Sage Podcast!  Today the podcast begins it's fifth year of sharing stories and highlighting the immeasurable impact that Philmont has had on all of our lives.As of today, the show has totaled 95,000 downloads. We have aired 166 episodes, and reached audiences in over 13 countries, and 315 cities.  I'm so honored to continue to host and produce this podcast, and to preserve the history of Philmont and her people.Support the show

David is currently the Director of Wilderness Adventures at Northern Tier, and was formerly a Senior Associate Director of Program at Philmont Scout Ranch.  During his thirteen year tenure at Philmont he implemented several new safety and risk management procedures, enhanced Philmont's shooting sports program, expanded backcountry instrument inventory, refined backcountry warehouse usage data, and lead the opening of Metcalf Station.  David praises Scouting for its recent inclusivity efforts - opening the program to all walks of life, and of course the lifelong impact it offers youth.  Philmont Experience:1992 – Two Treks - participant1995 – PC Apache Springs1996 – PC Iris Park2003 – PSA Trek.  Hiking through the Ponil fire area.2011-2024 – Sr. Associate Director of ProgramNorthern Tier:2018:  Trek with Troop 68, Cimarron (Ute Park Fire closed Philmont)2024 – Present:  Director of Wilderness AdventuresFlorida Sea Base:2017:  Volunteer Staff – Post Hurricane Irma recovery team (PSA)Summitt:2017 National Jamboree Staff – High Adventure Booth DirectorNotable Mentions:Monty GibsonBrent SmithJimmy LoweDenise TonyBrent SmithChris SawyerTony ChandlessDoug LundsfordDonnie LundsfordDoug PalmerMark AndersonJohn Van DreeseSupport the show

Today we travel to 2012 when Jeremy Cunningham and I, along with several other phenomenal individuals, spent the summer at Beaubien - calling it our home.  This episode is special for me because it's the first interview I've done with a fellow staff member. Jeremy and I chat about his one and only summer on staff - the family bond amongst co-workers, working hard to delivery a world class experience for Scouts and advisors, and working hard to enjoy ourselves in our youth - as we all should.   Philmont Experience:2007 - Trek Participant 2009 - Trek Participant (crew leader)2012 - PC BeaubienNotable Mentions:Jimmy LoweKim Ford "Mouse"Gentle Jeff GambleRanger ShawnBen MonizNate NastaseRachel AguirreDylan McDermottVanDan EdwardsGarrick LancasterTeresaHannahSupport the show

As we close out Season 8 of Silver On the Sage Podcast - I share with you an episode from the vault.  In late spring of 2021 I interviewed my sister Claire Ficke.  We had intentions to co-host the podcast that summer, but - had to delay the idea.  All the same - this episode still holds relevance, meaning, and nuggets of wisdom too good not to share.   Philmont Experience:2013 - PC Beaubien2014 - PC Cyphers Mine2015 - ACD Beaubien2016 - Videographer NPSNotable Mentions:Austin St. GeorgeKreable Young Devyn Healy (Hanselmann)Caroline DavisNathan FordTanner ShawSam AndersonEllyn Washburne RagerTyler MinchowLucy BakerNicole ButlerTed CookSupport the show

In today's episode I get to chat with the current Director of Program at the Philmont Training Center, Maddy Houk. In addition to discussing what this new era of PTC has to offer, we highlight the success of a special project that Maddy is very passionate about - the Zia Experience.  The Zia experience is a modified BSA Family Adventure Camp program focusing on giving Scouts with special needs and disabilities, their parent(s), family members, and caregiver(s) new and exciting Philmont adventures. Philmont Experience:2016 - PTC Craft Center Staff 2017 - PTC Assistant Program Manager2018 - PTC Program Manager 2019 - PTC Program ManagerMarch 2021- Present - PTC Director of Program Notable Mentions:Davilyn McArthur (Rohr)Caroline OlerichCaroline MillerGrant ReiglemanShelley O'NeillNick HutchinsonDanny TuckerAmanda MartinezShelley O'NeillBrian SeibertChris WerhaneAlisa HightowerNate LayKevin SticklemanJulie StillGraeme BagleySupport the show

Eric Locklar, known to several of you as Lock, joins the show to share many a story and a heartfelt appreciation for all that Philmont Scout Ranch has given him. From the Ponil Rootbeer challenege to the 1996 Harlan Tornado radio call - Lock embodies the spirit of work hard, play hard.  He expresses his dedication to the Philmont scouting experience and to the late Doug Palmer as a mentor and lifelong friend. Notbale Mentions:Bill SpiceDoug PalmerSpencer SeimFred CribbettGS HarperDoug CramCajunRedPat AdamsRebecca EllisBrandon WhiteMegan GruelliaShelley O'NeillLarry McLaughlinRoch RoharbacherOwen McCullochReggie JayneSupport the show

The next 90 minutes will showcase original songs, poems, and stories shared to celebrate the life and impact of Doug Palmer who served as Philmont's Associate Director of Program for over 23 years.A heartfelt thank you to everyone who submitted content to make this episode possible.  Be sure to read the show notes below for set list details. Set List1) "The Phil-Sick Blues" - Mark Haechen2) City Limit Sign - written by Dr. John Alexander and performed with Gayanne Jeffers3) Cabin Music - Ali Meeks, Andy Gerhart, and Bob Brown4) Doug Story / Fire and The Sky - Reid Templeton5) Beaubien Porch - Bob Busch6) "Green of Dawn" - Dave Liebmann7) The Other Side - Bonnie Miller8) Higher Ground - Will Kemple Taylor 9) The Wind and the River - Carly & Dylan McDermott10) Doug Story - Fred Cribbett11) "Philmont Land Ahead of Me" - Steve Chase12) Philmont on my Mind - Warren Smith13) Little Ditty - Topher Busch14) "Waiting" - Elizabeth Knapp15) Alright For Now - Zak Butler16) Rich Brothers - Grace Wall 17) "Pondering A Ponderosa" - Ali Meeks18) Where There's Mountains - Becca Fallaw with credit to Finnaghan Stumps 19) Everything You've Grown - Will Kemple Taylor20) Rayado - David Burchfield21) "A Young Girl in a Red Hooded Cape" - Anonymous 22) Across The Great Divide - Jack Chinn23) Winds Change - Claire Ficke and Dylan McDermott24) Leaving Beaubien - Tom Munch25) "The Letter" - Tim Rosseisen26) Tim's Song - Zak Butler27) Ride With Me Jesus - written by Dr. John Alexander performed by Rod TaylorSupport the show

Ever since his experience as a Kit Carson Trek participant in 1972 and working on staff as a Ranger, John has looked for ways to give back to Philmont Scout Ranch.  He's done so via his time and dedication to the Philmont Staff Association as the VP of Development and President.  John is also a current Ranch Committee member on the facilities task force.  Lastly - he remains an active member of his local East Texas Area council.   Philmont Experience:1970 - Trek participant1971 - Trek participant1972 - Kit Carson (Rayado) / Trail hire Ranger1973 - Ranger1974 - Ranger2011 - 2014: PSA VP Development2014 - 2019: PSA President2022 - Ranch CommitteePresident of the East TX Area Council BSA.Notable Mentions:Ed PeaseTom MacKinnyJim LynchMarianne MacGillivrayJulie Puckett PhillipsTim GremingerDollie O'NeillRandy SaundersMark AndersonSteve JohnsonSupport the show

A bonus episode for this month to highlight the historic, spiritual, and otherworldly encounters that many of us have experienced at Philmont Scout Ranch.  I want to thank Kathy Schroder, Forky Rudin, and JJ Stevens for sharing their stories and time.  Photo Credit: Christopher Miller, 2019. Support the show

Forrest, better known to some of you as Forky, shares his passion for the Ranger department - including in 1982 when he achieved the triple crown as a Roving Ranger, Rayado Ranger, and Mountain Trek Ranger. Among the more wild and adventurous stories - yes including the bear bite incident - Forky also highlights the deeper experiences he encountered at Philmont - which have shaped his entire life going forward. Philmont Experience:1976 - Trek Participant1977 - Trek Participant1978 - Rayado Trek Participant1979 - Trek Participant1980 - PTC Services Staff1981 - Ranger 1982 - Ranger1983 - Training Ranger 1984 - Training Ranger1985 - Rayado Trek Coordinator1986 - CD Pueblano1987 - Rayado Trek Coordinator1988 - CD Cito2003 - Current - Fly Fishing Invitational Staff Volunteer2013 - Trek Advisor2017 - Trek AdvisorNotable Mentions:Marilyn VargasMaya PompeoHolly Rudin IngramScott IngramMark FuryRandy DaySue BolinShelley Bolin O'NeilBoss SanchezBob KnoxLittle BobSioux RobertsLaura Lampe RosiessenTim RLonesome DoveMike SchweetersChase Chief RangerBrad SommeralBrad NewberryBob BurnsMariah HughesLloyd KunutzenMark ChandlerLee Haddaway "Bear"GD WerhaneScott IngramRuss WolfColeAlbert NewmanChaz GrossSaundy StocktonWayne BakerJohnni UliberryJay HarveyLee HughesPeter CrookPete CostilloChase AndersonDon HortonTodd KrintzBob LongoriaTriggerGrant ReiglemanFrank ReiglemanSteve RickHunter SeimCarole WolfRoland PoolSupport the show

Reid Templeton - original Tobasco Donkeys member and co-author of BSA Topping Out Climbing/Rappelling Manual. Reid deems Philmont as "the gateway job" to careers in leadership and outdoor education.  His career today as a leadership, team, and organizational development consultant is rooted in the leadership opportunities he gained from Scouting.  *Please hike and climb in approved areas only at Philmont Scout Ranch*   Philmont Experience: 1992 - Trek advisor 18 year old1993 - PC Clarks Fork1995 - PC Miners Park1996 - Head Rock Dean Cow1997 - CD Miners Park1998 - Original member of the “Tobasco Donkeys” Played guitar and sang on Sawin' on the Strings1998 - Pre-Season Contractor - Trained rock climbing staff1999 - Pre-Season Contractor - Trained rock climbing staffVolunteer 1997 - 2000: Supported the creation and writing of the COPE and Rock Climbing standards at the National Level - Co-Author of Topping Out: A BSA Climbing/Rappelling Manual2018 - Returned to Philmont to replace technical climbing hardware and check systems/rock quality - bolts/chains etc. add a bolted multi pitch climbing route and long technical rappel around the Miners Park climbing area. Notable Mentions:Zachary HanksChris Bryant "Red"GreenDoug PalmerGene SchnellRob HeyduckDirty Larry McLaughlinTobasco Donkeys Bob & Val BrownAli Wick MeeksEric VossSupport the show

Fred has been a Philmont trek participant, seasonal staff member, full time employee, and dedicated PSA volunteer.  In our conversation today Fred shares a myriad of stories and insights - from the infamous 1996 Tornado to interacting with crews at Commissary camps, the long gone tradition of backcountry Philmont cats, getting involved with the Community of Cimarron, and many other seemingly accidental opportunities and friendships that developed during his time at the Ranch.  Philmont Experience:1986 - Trek Participant1988 - Trek Participant1990 - Trek Participant, crew leader1992 – Phillips Junction1996 – Baldy Town2005-2007 - PSA Regional Director 2008-2010 - PSA Vice President of Service 2009 – Commissary truck driver2010 – Seasonal Commissary Manager2010 – 2015, Maintenance Department Full-TimeNotable MentionsDenice ToneyGene SchnellPatrick EnglishJoey MartinezJohn ClarkJim KutzRally WigsTonyBen HermanMike GeorgeErik LochlarRandy SaundersSupport the show

Seventy years ago in 1954, Joe spent his first year on staff as a wrangler at base camp headquarters.  Dr. Armstrong went on to have an extremely successful career in the horse and cattle industry as an international judge, educator, breeder, consultant, coach and competitor.  He is also a published author of the book titled: The Horseman's Handbook: Horse Ownership, Care & Enjoyment. When asked "Where did you grow up to be a man" Joe responds - it was Philmont Scout Ranch that started it all.  Philmont Experience:1951 - Trek participant 1952 - Trek participant "Trapping Expedition"1954 - Wrangler at Base camp1955 - Wrangler Guided Pack Trip Caravans1956 - Head Wrangler at newly opened Clark's Fork CampNotable Mentions:John StokesAlex "Boss" SanchezLeo MartinezJack FergusonVirgil MooreShorty MartinezBill LitrellCE AlexanderSupport the show

Tim Rosseisen spent 11 summers on staff throughout the 80s and 90s, only to return again as Special Projects Manager in 22, 23, and 24.  He shares a lighthearted mix of stories from back in the day, to meaningful experiences since returning to the ranch in recent years.  Tim has also been served as the PSA National Director and Vice President of Service for several terms.  Lastly, he chats about his involvement with the Fly Fishing Invitational and Disabled Veterans Fishing Program at the ranch.  Philmont Experience:1978, 79, 80, 83 - Trek participant1984 - Ranger 1985 - PC Cito 1986 - PC Miners Park1987 - PC Cito1988 - Head Rock Dean Cow 1989 - CD Dean Cow 1990 - CD Cito1991 - CD Beaubien 1992 - CD Beaubien 1993 - Health Lodge Director Support Staff1995 - Health Lodge Director Support Staff2022 - Special Projects Manager2023 - Special Projects Manager2024 - Special Projects ManagerPSA 3 TreksPSA National Director - 4 terms PSA VP of Service - 2 terms Fly Fishing Invitational: 21 years, 17 as Chairman Disabled Veterans Fishing Program: 11 years, current Program CoordinatorNotable Mentions:Percy PentecostDoug PalmerTW MagnusStacey GreenRod TaylorDean TooleyChaz GrossSteve NelsonMatt HartLaura Lampe Rosseisen Jim LynchJohn MurphyMark StinnettDoug PalmerSteve RickJohn ClarkMark AndersonJohnny UliberryKerrie HaristonForky RudinPete CostelloCarole WolfJulie PhillipsJim MacGilivrayChris WerhaneSupport the Show.

Today Charley Charlie shares her story as a young Explorer trekking at Philmont to a Rayado Ranger, Conservation Forman, and more.  After Philmont, she founded two Facebook groups committed to women of high adventure - the groups are the Phemale Alumni and the Phemale Forum.  She is a proponent for improved training and preparedness for future Philmont staff, and aspires to build a career in outdoor safety and Wilderness Risk Management.Philmont Experience:1997 - Trek participant1998 - Trail Crew Trek participant2001 - Ranger2002 - Ranger / Rayado Ranger2003 - Work Crew Forman2004 - ROCS2005 - Mountain Trek Ranger / Ranger2017 - Phemale Alumnae Facebook page founder2018 - Security (one week - Ute Park fire)Notable Mentions:Shawn O'Hara Julia RepassMaria BromleyKaren KominskyLaura GibsonRanda KeltonBeth Anderson Links and Info Shared by Charley Charlie:Email: charley.charlie03@gmail.comCell: (480) 341-0030LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/charley-charlieMissing 411: https://www.youtube.com/user/canammissingprojectOutdoor Self-Defense & Safety: linkedin.com/in/nicolesnellRespect Outside: https://respectoutside.com/The Good Men Project: https://goodmenproject.com/the-good-men-project-diversity-and-inclusion-programs/Dumas & Vaughn: https://dumasandvaughn.com/Phemale Phorum: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1220782058023904/Philmont Trek Talk: https://www.facebook.com/groups/455632648316853Phemale Alumnae: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1729860397316372Phil-staff Alumni: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3089802194473570Educational:https://strandsquared.com/training-topics/https://www.togetheroutdoors.com/https://www.responderalliance.com/all-traininghttps://www.americaoutdoors.org/membership/diversity-equity-inclusion/https://camberoutdoors.org/programs/https://catharsisproductions.com/programs/https://www.greenmuslims.org/https://remakingmanhood.com/https://intersectionalenvironmentalist.com/work-with-ushttps://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-matheus-speaker/https://equityandagency.com/traininghttps://www.outdooristoath.org/workshophttps://uscenterforsafesport.org/training-and-education/safesport-courses-for-all/https://courses.viristar.com/https://www.nols.edu/en/risk-services/wilderness-risk-management-conference/Support the Show.

Mark Stinnett joins the show to discuss his extensive involvement with and dedication to Philmont Scout Ranch and Scouting alike.  We chat about his role as the Editor of the award winning PSA High Country magazine, his experiences on Ranch Committee, several wild backcountry bear encounters, and more.  We also highlight the PTC Course that Mark Stinnett and Mark Anderson have led each summer since 2022, called "Philmont History - The Land, The People, The Saga."Philmont Experience:Ranger (1975)Program Counselor (Western Lore), Beaubien (1976)Camp Director, Clarks Fork (1977)Camp Director, Harlan (1978)Trek Advisor (1979 and 2013)Kanik Trek Advisor (2011)Member, National Camp Inspection and Assessment Teams (various, 2000-2018)Member, Rayado Restoration Task Force (2010-2014)Member, Valle Vidal Task Force (2004-2006)Conference Chair and Faculty Member, PTC Fall Conference – Outdoor Programs (2010)Philmont Staff Association (Life Member):President (1994-1997)National Director (1990-1993)Editor, High Country Magazine (1998-2008; 2016-present)Chair, Awards & Recognition Committee (2017-present)Chair, Presidents Committee (2004-2016)Chair, PSA Staff Dining Hall Capital Campaign (1997-2000)Chair, Valle Vidal Task Force (2004-2006)Ex Officio Member, Board of Directors (1998-2008 and 2017-present)Philmont Ranch Committee (1998-2019)Chair, Program & Camping Task Forces (2003-2019)Co-Chair, Strategic Planning Task Force (2017-2019)Member, Risk Management Task Force (1998-2002)Member (Legal Advisor), Infirmary Task Force (2000-present)Instructor, Risk Management Training for Backcountry Camp Directors (2005-2021) andSeasonal Staff Leadership (2022-2023)Faculty for PTC Course: Philmont History: The Land, The People, The Saga (2022-present)Distinguished Service Award, Philmont Staff Association (first ever awarded, 2009)Silver Sage Award for service to Philmont (2011)National Outdoor Book Awards “Work of Significance” Recognition for Fieldbook: Scouting'sManual of Basic and Advanced Skills for Outdoor Adventure, Fifth Edition (2014)Apex Awards for Publication Excellence for High Country Magazine (2018, 2020, 2022)Apex Grand Award for Publication Excellence for High Country Magazine (2024)Notable Mentions:Dave CaffeyChope PhillipsDave BatesGlenn FowlerCarole Fowler StinnettBill SpiceDawn ChandlerMark AndersonDanny TuckerDave WerhaneJulie PuckettLela Murphy Chuck PilmooreNeil ArmstrongBuzz AldrinEugene SermonGordan CooperBill FanningWarren SmithFrank ReiglemanBob BurkbeeRod TaylorSupport the Show.

Ed Dolensky joins the show to chat about the Philmont Scout Ranch Food Service Department.  Ed discusses the numerous angles of food service from backcountry commissary deliveries and trail meal packaging - to camper, staff, and PTC dining hall operations. We all love to eat so let's give the dining hall some love and celebrate the hard work they do to keep staff and participants fueled for adventures that last a lifetime. Philmont Experience:1980 - Trek participant1983 - Trek participant2007 - Trek Advisor2010 - Trek Advisor2012 - Trek Advisor2022 - CHQ Dinging Hall Manager, May 1 - June 262023 - CHQ Dining Hall Assistant Manager, July 1 - August 13Notable Mentions:Joey FernandezDerek ShineyRoger Matt HartElder WilsonCarrie Hairston Support the Show.

For 16 summers Steve Nelson witnessed staff and participants experience influential moments time and time again.  And not just in the summertime, but year round - from 2008 to 2023 Steve worked full-time as the Associate Director of Camping, Comptroller, and Director of Camping.Steve prides Philmont on recruiting the best of the best seasonal staff members.  And how when they arrive, they explode in awesomeness and terrific achievement.  And how proud he was to be a part of that for so many years.   Philmont Experience:1972 - NJLITC participant1995 - Philmont Training Center - Professional BSA Training1999 - Philmont Trek - 714-P2April 2008 - June 2009 - Associate Director of Camping (Unit 6) responsible for Base Camp Operations and Seasonal Human ResourcesJune 2009 - December 2017 - Comptroller/Director of Business Operations (Unit 4 and then Unit 3)January 2018  - September 2023 - Director of Camping (Unit 2)BSA Career:Nevada Area Council; Reno, Nevada - District Executive - 1983 - 1986Boulder Dam Area Council; Las Vegas, Nevada - District Executive 1986-1987Left the Boy Scouts in 1987 worked at Aspen Grove Family Camp - Brigham Young University Alumni Family Camp and taught classes in the Recreation Management/Youth Leadership Department. 1987-1989Tendoy Area Council; Pocatello, Idaho - Senior District Executive 1990-1993Grand Teton Council; Idaho Falls, Idaho - Program Director, Field Director and Director of Field Service 1993-2002Snake River Council: Twin Falls, Idaho - Scout Executive 2002 - 2008Philmont Scout Ranch 2008-2023Notable Mentions:Mark AndersonSasha NelsonFrank ReiglemanKeith GallowayJohn ClarkOwen McCullochChris SawyerEric MartinezAdam HerrenbrookeRobert FudgeJohn Celley Andrew GotchenowerSid CovingtonHailey in Logistics John MurphyMatt LindseyJim LynchTim RosseisenTim HansenJoey FernandezGene SchnellKevin DowlingSupport the Show.

Dr. John Alexander - esteemed Veterinarian, Texas native, Eagle Scout, Philmont Wrangler and Horsemen, Philmont Ranch Committee member, and one of the more generous people I've met to date.  Philmont Experience:June 1984 - Trek participantJune 2013 - Advisor1988 - Wrangler, Beaubien & Ponil1989-1991 - Horseman, Ponil2016-2021 - Ranch Committee: Ranch/Conservation Task Force2021- Ranch Committee: Advisory BoardNotable Mentions:Jason SmallwoodBen and Marilyn VargasSean VargasRod and Patty TaylorRich RiddleChuck EnloeRob YarboroJesse Earl SealyRusty LoweChris HollowayMario MartinezLinda DavisCS RanchJeremy SpiveyJB BrockwayTriggerJake BarnesClay O'Brien CooperBrad HandcockBob HandcockDegus WrightJeff MackeeJim RifelKevin DowlingDave KennekePat BlennRoger HoytChuck EnloeJeff SeglerRichard MungerMark AndersonSupport the Show.

Jack Chinn and I discuss the magical moments of the Philmont staff experience, alongside the maturity moments and interpersonal growth that happens when you toss a bunch of 20 year-olds together in the mountains of New Mexico.  Chatting with Jack also reminded me of how much stronger our memories are when gathered with friends. Philmont Experience:2004 - Trek participant2008 - OA trail crew trek participant2009 - OATC Foreman2010 - PC Urraca 2011 - PC Cyphers2011 - Fall Maintenance/ Cimarron Volunteer Fire Department2012 - CD FrenchNotable Mentions:Spencer PowellBilly RainSlim Uribe GoertzJohn NagibMason SpanglerBrianna HowlandTim CollverMike RitterhouseAmy CarlislePhilip LewisJimmy LoweEli Page GoertzGene SchnellRick SmithJohn CelleyFudgeJL EllisRoss RobinsonFreddyTedEllen WashburneKira RednizackHenryRobert ClemmerLizzy StandardMark AndersonSupport the Show.

Today I share an interview with Grace Wall, also known as Nollie.  Nollie is a current Philmont staffer and a long time scouter.  This interview embodies those moments when you meet a fellow alumni and feel instantly at ease and eager to chat about all things Philmont.   Philmont Experience:2019 - 12-day trek participant2021 - PC Rich Cabins 2022 - PC Crater Lake 2023 - PC Cypher's Mine2024 - CD Rich Cabins Notable Mentions:Cormac akaTimothy LoosbrookJack SiebertSupport the Show.

Today's guest will soon begin his  27th summer on seasonal staff at Philmont Scout Ranch.  He's hiked the Appalachian Trail, the Long Trail, and summited over 40 state highpoints and 40 Colorado fourteeners.  But you may know him best from his published book - The Philmanac, and his famous Philmont cookies and desserts.  Philmont Experience:1978 - Trek Participant 1982 - Ranger1983 - Seasonal Registrar1985 - Welcome Center Manager1986 - Trek Advisor 1987 CD -Phillips Junction1988 CD - Phillips Junction1989 CD - Baldy Town1990 CD - Head of Dean1991 CD - Cimarroncito1992 CD - Miners Park1993 CD - Pueblano1994 CD - French Henry1995 CD - Dean Cow1996 CD - Clear Creek1997 CD - Black Mountain1999 CD - Rich Cabin2002 CD - Crooked Creek2004 CD - Miranda2006 Cook - Cimarroncito2008 Cook - Cimarroncito2009 Cook - Beaubien2011 Cook - Cimarroncito2013 Cook - Ponil2015 Cook - Clarks Fork2018 Cook - Cimarroncito/Museum staff (Ute Park Fire)2021 CD - Chase Ranch2023 Cook - Clarks Fork2024 - CD Dan BeardEarly 2000s - PSA Director (6 years)Notable MentionsCliff WaygeeDean TooleyDawn Chandler Doug PalmerLee HaddawayJim FosterGS HarperFryerGene SchnellCarlos AbueloDerek ShineyFather Kevin SmithJohn Eric KauffmanJohn Pierce David O'NeilEd PeaseBill SpiceSupport the Show.

Kicking off Season 8 with the current Director of Camping, Unit 2 - Matt Hart.  Matt shares an enthusiastic commitment to Philmont's exemplary levels of service and professionalism, from the first bus of the season to the last - and beyond. We discuss everything from recruitment, participant numbers, and BSA policy updates to Philmont capital projects, pilot programs, NM sunsets and more.  Support the podcast!Monthly contributions via Patreon One time donation via Venmo : Caitlin-Lowe-87714Podcast merchandise Scouting BackgroundEagle Scout from Troop 23 in Rockmart, GADistrict Executive, Senior District Executive, Program Director, Field Director Northwest GA Council, Rome, GA 1994-2002Scout Executive, Alapaha Area Council, Valdosta, GA-2002-2007Scout Executive, Suwannee River Area Council, Tallahassee, FL-2007-2010Scout Executive, South GA Area Council, Valdosta, GA-2010-2020Scout Executive, Northwest GA Council, Rome, GA-2020-2023Director of Camping, Philmont Scout Ranch 2023-present.Philmont Background12 Day Backcountry Treks in 2009 and 2013.PTC Faculty-Council Key 3-2022PTC Faculty-Commissioner Service-2005PTC Participant-(Council Key 3) 2010Philmont Fly Fishing Invitational-Annually from 2013-2022  Notable Mentions:Doug PalmerSteve NelsonRoger HoytShelley O'NeilDave KennekeKevin SticklemenDave WerhaneAustin St. GeorgePhillip FerrierDavid O'NeillNate LayJoey FernadezMonica TurneyCarrie Kosmicki Hairston Derek ShineyChris SawyerKimberly Rayburn HartChick HarveyLinda DavisSupport the show

Donna kicks it off reminiscing back to 1986 when she gathered with friends to celebrate New Years at the ranch.  From her experiences as a rent-a-ranger and mountain trek mom to encounters with wildlife and full moon pranks, Donna embodies that special connection we all feel while sitting around a fire, gathering and reconnecting with Philmont friends.   Girls and Women, Equity and Inclusion (GWEI) Philmont Experience:1978 - Trek participant1980 - Camping dining hall staff1981 - Camping distribution staff1982 - Ranger1983 - Ranger1986 - New Years participant 2001 - PTC Participant2011 - PSA Backcountry Liaison Notable Mentions:Chris BowlesBen RushJon AntonavitchDean TooleyOwen MichaelsonDave BogartChistine McCarthy-StandardScott IngramJohn Deal - GrizKathy LeachCliff WatjeBetty WatjeBev AldridgeMr. Lloyd KnutsonJim FosterWillie HittsonSupport the show

Today I chat with the creator of the Instagram account "Cons Meme Cache."  Some of you may follow this social media account - where common Philmont staff experiences are presented with humor and jest.  The content creator wished to remain anonymous - but he shares the history and making of the account, as well as his experiences on staff and more.  Philmont Experience:2017 - Trek Participant2019 - Trek Participant2021 - Conservation Work CrewSupport the show

Bob and I chat about recording Tobasco Donkeys album “Sawin On The Strings,” black mountain bog wars, PSA cavalcade, New Years at the Ranch, and more.  A big thanks to Jeremy Spivey, Bob, his wife Val, and their daughter Mattie, for hosting a mini Philmont reunion and of course the chance to sing some tunes together. Bob is a bass player for the Blood Brothers - check out their music! Philmont Experience:1988 - Trek participant1990 - Trek participant1991 - Trail Crew Trek 1992 - Trail Crew Trek / Trading post trail hire1993 - Seally Canyon 1994 - Crater Lake1995 - Black Mountain1996 - CD Apache1997 - CD Crater1998 - CD Cyphers Notable Mentions:Dirty Larry MclaughlinSpencer SeimAndy GerhartShelley O'NeilChris KnollsJohn Ferris ChaplainDave BatesScott ToneyDoug FaschingReggie JayneAli Wick MeeksRyan RaddishDavid HigginbothamJoe GatsEric VossReid TempletonRon PowersAlex Ave Jag McLaughlinGene SchnellKelley Kirkwood "Cajun"Chris BryantPat (BCM)Hunter SeimDoug PalmerSupport the show

Conservation veteran, Crockett joins the show to share his experience and expertise in trail and campsite infrastructure, installation, and sustainability at Philmont Scout Ranch.  Philmont Experience:Summer '12 - SustainabilitySummer '13 - Environmental Educator, TCT & ROCS Summer '14 - Conservation Site Foreman - Whiteman VegaSummer '15 - Conservation Field CoordinatorFall '15 - Trail Survey Team w/ Jordan MoedeMay '16 - Nov '17 - Conservation Field Manager Winter '18 - Conservation Hiring Support Staff Summer '18 - Recreation Resource Specialist Sept '18 - Dec '21 - Conservation Field Manager (full-time)Notable Mentions:Max McCaleDavid PedrickCarrie AndersonLogan HardinJohn CelleyKevin DowlingZach SeagerCasey MeyersJeb RedwineBryce StephensonBen HarperConner OxburgerMarty - ForesterMary SteuverNate LayChris SawyerLimmer Boot CompanySupport the show

Between sips of coffee and contemplative grins - Ben and Marilyn Vargas share stories of love, dedication, and incredible hard work during their time living at Philmont Scout Ranch.  As second parents to many seasonal wranglers, Ben and Marilyn are humble celebrities among the Ranch Department, and I want to thank them for inviting me into their home and sharing just a small portion of the immeasurable impact they've had on so many lives. I'd like to note that this episode was generously and anonymously sponsored by a member of the Old Horse Department, whom without, the making of this episode would not have been possible. I thank you.Support the show and enjoy some tunes - "The Places We Call Home" by The Calico Stray.Philmont ExperienceBen VargasSeasonal Staff1964 - Rayado grounds1965 - Rayado Dining Hall1966 - Trading Post staff1967 - Wrangler1968 - Horseman1969 - Horseman1970 - HorsemanFull Time 1971 - Fence Crew then moved to Cowboy1972 - 1979 - Cowboy1980 - Horse Forman2018 - Livestock Foreman Marilyn VargasSeasonal Staff1974 - Small Fry Director1976 - 1979 - Nursery DirectorPart Time1980 - 1984 - HousekeepingFull Time1985 - 2018 - Assistant to General Manager (2015 promoted to Assistant to GM and Team Leader Administrative/Housekeeping).Notable MentionsLeo MartinezBob KnoxJim BirdLee MariettMark AndersonPaul ClaussenChuck BingerBill SpiceKeith GallowayJohn ClarkKevin DowlingAustin VargasKelly VargasChope PhillipsBJ - Lost RangerDanny SloanDollie O'NeillCasey LymanDr. John AlexanderJohn BellJason SmallwoodBrad NewberryBob RickleffsRusty LoweSupport the show

Today we celebrate not only amazing Philmont friendships, but also the relationships that summit the highest peak of life - that of love and commitment. Mike and Katie Nyhart share their story, which began in 2015 on the Baldy Town porch. Their wedding day was truly a work of art - surrounded by over 30 Philmont friends, and etched into every intentional detail - memories from those special hills. Lastly, the couple share tips on how to maintain Philmont relationships across space and time.Philmont Experience:Katie (Krzyvon)2011: Trek participant2013: Trek participant2014: Rayado participant2015: PC Baldy Town2016: CD Ring Place2017: CD Baldy Town2018: Logistics (arrived late and left mid-summer)Mike2011: Trek participant2013: Trek participant2014: PC Beaubien2015: PC Pueblano2016: PC Metcalf2017: CD Whiteman Vega2018: CD Pueblano/TSI2018: Autumn BCW2019: BCMNotable Mentions:Sean MurphyLela MurphyLizzie StandardZach GarmoeSupport the show

Father-daughter duo, discusses the generational similarities and differences of working as Wranglers in the Philmont Ranch Department. Chris began on seasonal staff in 1990, and Anna in 2023.  They express gratitude to the Ranch Department for its close-knit culture and dedicated work ethic – which prepared them for future careers and successful relationships.Celebrate and support Silver On the Sage Podcast by contributing via a monthly contribution through Patreon or a one time donation via Venmo @Caitlin-Lowe-87714.Philmont Experience:Chris Holloway 1984 - Trek Participant1988 - Trek Participant1990 - Wrangler1991 - Wrangler - North Cav Horseman2005 - PTC Faculty2013 - PTC Wilderness First Aid 2022 - Trek Advisor2024 - Trek AdvisorAnna Holloway2023 - Wrangler2024 - WranglerNotable Mentions:Bob RickleffsBen VargasRod TaylorChuck EnloeDr. John AlexanderRusty LoweDave DavisChris LathumBrandon BlakneyLeslie DavisLinda DavisNate LaySupport the show

Current General Manager of Philmont Scout Ranch, Roger Hoyt, joins the show.  We discuss everything from operational aspects of the ranch to strategic goals for the Ute Park burn scar and the 2024 summer season.  Throughout his tenure, Roger has seen the ranch overcome several challenges. He shares his gratitude to both full-time and seasonal staff, for their commitment and dedication to the mission of Scouting.Notable ArticleBSA CEO Roger Krone - Fortune article  Scouting Career:1995 - District Executive Kansas City, Missouri.  Promotions: Senior District Executive, Program Director, Senior Program Director and District Director2006 - Chief Financial Officer/Director of Support Services - Greater Cleveland Council, OH2010 - Scout Executive Baden-Powell Council, Binghamton, New York2015 - Scout Executive of the Northern Lights Council in Fargo, ND  2019 - January 16 - General Manager of Philmont Scout Ranch Notable Mentions:Ken MallerFrank Reigleman Dave Kenneke Mark Anderson Steve NelsonMatt HartShelley O'NeilKevin SticklemanDavid WerhaneDavid O'NeillNate LayDanny TuckerBen Harper Russell Smart Support the show

Dinner is over and we help clean dishes as the evening itinerary read out begins.  A thunderstorm rolls, lanterns are lit, and the staff take pause to enjoy the satisfaction of a day's work done. We make the brief trek up the hill to Charlie's Cabin where Stomp is about to begin. The show kicks off with a resounding chorus and the energy of a talented performance.  All staff members - past and present join together on stage to close with the Philmont Hymn. Support the show

Follow along as we hike from Hunting Lodge to Cypher's mine by way of the Middle Fork Trail. Our crew of three - Cormac, Dave, and I - banter as we pause along the stream, discussing Philmont past, present, and future.  Arriving at Cypher's main cabin, we're welcomed by the bustling energy of crews, porch talks, and the staff prepping for dinner.  We jump at the chance to go on a tour of the Contention mine and catch a moment at the forge. The episode closes as I slip away to sit next to the stream, and journal.  Support the show

Wrapping up our Advisors of Philmont mini-series with Barry Bray.  Barry has been on numerous treks, and has participated in PTC programs. Today he focuses the conversation on the three Cavalcades he's been an Advisor for. Philmont Experience:1972 - Trek1991 - Trek2008 - Trek2012 - Trek2014 - Cavalcade2016 - Trek and Autumn Adventure2017  - Cavalcade and PTC2018 - PTC and QAC Retreat2021 - Cavalcade2022 - PTC2023 - Faculty PTC2024 - Faculty PTCNotable Mentions:Rod TaylorJessica SeifertWrangler HenrySupport the show

Emily Smith joins the show as part of our Advisors of Philmont mini-series.  She shares her unique perspective of being an Advisor on two treks in the summer of 2023 - first with her home troop and second with a troop she'd never met.  She also discusses the challenging transition going from a youth participant with her peers to an adult advisor. Emily credits her Scouting leadership experiences to pushing her out of her comfort zone, challenging her to be the person she's grown into today.   Philmont Experience:2018-2021 -  NAYLE staff2021 - Youth trek participant2023 - Adult Advisor 2023 - Adult Advisor  Notable Mentions:DashaSupport the show

I've known of Ellie Nickens Turner for quite some time - she's friends with my friends, she's a Tobasco Donkeys member, and in the evenings, her fiddle and vocals fill my kitchen as I sweep. I was able to spend quality time with her in 2023 at Philmont, and felt that instant, familiar connection as a fellow staffer, mom, and adventure seeker.Philmont Experience:2003 - Mountain Trek participant2004 - Mountain Trek participant2005 - Rayado participant2006 - Ranger / Tobasco Donkeys2007 - Ponil2008 - Rich CabinsNotable Mentions:Kyle EgmeyerRobert FudgeDirty LarryDoug PalmerMichael HenneberryAndy GerhartMikePeter BingenRy TaylorRod TaylorTim CollverGS HarperIron John LoganAllison Vinson DeFreesAbby Cashman HugivmanMeg (Graham) and Dave PlumbJimmy LoweMichael and Martin StamatSupport the show

Today we continue our Advisors of Philmont mini-series with Steve Chase.  To prepare for his role as a first time lead Advisor, Steve participated in the Philmont Advisor Skills School also known as the PASS program.  Steve shares his insights including the importance of nominating a crew leader prior to arriving at Philmont, preparing the crew for potential disappointments consequential to inclement weather or injuries on the trail, and the pros and cons of the Father/Son dynamic within the crew. Philmont Experience:1997 - Security staff1998 - Ranger1999 - Rayado Ranger2022 - Lead Advisor 7 Day TrekNotable Mentions:Dwight SteinDavid SetzerRanger JanellLuke HeidalTobasco DonkeysRod TaylorRanger AndrewJeff CressFacebook: Philmont Trek Talk - Prep, News, InfoKathleen's Burrito BanquetSteve NelsonSupport the show

Kicking off our next mini-series: Advisors of Philmont Scout Ranch.   Chris Ford has been continuously registered with BSA since 1962 when he joined cub scouts.  In 1973 he was offered a late contract to be a Ranger, but had to decline.  Since then he's been on 9 treks, 7 of which have been co-ed.  He estimates that he's hiked over 700 miles at Philmont.  Representing Venturing, he shares his experiences as an Advisor. Philmont Experience: 1971 - Trek participant, crew leader1995 - Council Contingent Leader2006 - Council Contingent Leader 2008 - Council Contingent Leader2010 - Lead Advisor 2012 - Lead Advisor2014 - Lead Advisor2018 - Lead Advisor - Cancelled: Ute Park Fire.2019 - Crew Planner (did not trek)2021 - Lead Advisor Support the show

For today's guest, Pete Scifres, immersing himself in the wonderous and simple rhythms of nature while on staff at Philmont Scout Ranch, freed him from the ramifications of years as a combat engineer in the US army.  Pete discusses the challenges of going from military style leadership to Philmont leadership, the fulfilling opportunity to work on the heavy equipment crew after the Ute Park fire in 2018, and his affinity for the Cimarron 4th of July rodeo. Today Pete works as a professional gunsmith in Albuquerque, NM and returns to the ranch each summer to help train the firearms specialist. Philmont Experience:2015 - PC Sawmill2017 - CD Harlan2018 - Winter TOTT Clerk.  CD Miranda/Heavy equipment crew. Fall Cons2019 - BCM.  Fall Cons - Masticator Operator2020 - BCM (Cancelled due to covid).2021 - BCW Firearms specialistNotable Mentions:Grant ReiglemanCarter SmithCarson McraySean MurphyCharlie BeaserJohn CelleyJordan MeadeSupport the show

I was inspired by today's guests, Liz and Bob Bush, in their accomplishment of operating and owning a business that they refer to as “they're own backcountry camp.”  At Buckley's Mountainside Canoes, you'll find Liz the logistics coordinator and Bob the Porch Director, there to ensure all enjoy the Chippawa River in Isabella county, Michigan.Philmont Experience:Bob1991 - Trek participant1994 - Trek participant1994 - Ranger (trail hire)1995 - Ranger (Rayado 2nd season)1996 - PC Pueblano1997 - PC Cyphers Mine1998 - CD Crater LakeLiz1995 - Rayado participant1996 - Ranger1997 - Rayado Ranger1998 - CD AbreuSupport the show

My personal favorite version of Peggy-O is that sung by Ben Hoffman at the Crater Lake campfire bowl in 2011.  My second favorite version is by Nicholas Edward Williams, on his album titled Folk Songs For Old Times' Sake. Third favorite is a reggae version by Goose on The Summit. For the rest of the story - check out today's episode with special guest host Jo Bob of Camp Kids Podcast!Support the show

Donnie discusses summiting the peaks of life - once you've conquered one, chase another.  Don't stay put, keep moving, creating, and growing.  Find people who support that in your life.Philmont Experience:1996 - OATC Participant2002 - Work crew / Fire Rehab  2003 - Miranda 2004 - CD Clear2005 - CD Pueblano  2006 & 2007 - Fire Ecology Specialist, Unit 98  Notable Mentions:John ClarkUnkl aka Bruce WagnerTroy LeewrightMarcus RynersonDavid O'NeillRyan MyskyAdam ThroptburnOwen CookAnitaBlake LongworthJohn SchroderAndrew BassTim CollverJohnathan ShortDoug PalmerMark AndersonAllison VinsonBob RicklefsSeth ManginiTrisha BrownNancy ColemanJackie Clark ZenzinDevan CollierWayne GrahamMartin GibsonSupport the show