Podcasts about Crater lake

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Join host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the world of Bigfoot research with Scot Violette of Squatch America. In this episode, Scot recounts his experiences from investigating sightings in the Blue Mountains of Oregon, where he encountered Bigfoot firsthand near Marble Creek. Discover how his studies of Native American pictographs have revealed ancient depictions of Bigfoot. Scot also shares his theory about Bigfoot as an older version of humans, and discusses the remarkable vocal abilities these creatures may possess, including infrasound. Hear about his travels across the U.S., from capturing reports in Texas to investigating hotspots near Crater Lake and Wendigo Pass in Oregon. Learn valuable tips for aspiring Bigfoot researchers and how Scot's unique, community-engaging approach, like holding Bigfoot town halls, helps gather vital information. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, Scot's stories and insights will leave you captivated and curious.Resources:https://www.youtube.com/@SquatchAmericaSee Scot's Bigfoot finds here - https://squatchamerica.com/unique-bigfoot-finds-from-squatch-america/Scot's video on his pictograph find - https://www.youtube.com/live/nFLm4qRWVOUMore information on the Tule River Pictographs (with photos) - https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/research-papers/Mayak-Datat-Hairy-Man-Pictographs-1.pdfSasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to bigfootsociety@gmail.com. Your story could be the next one we feature!

Skeletons Of CRATER LAKEBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/missing-persons-mysteries--5624803/support.

Spooky Lakes time, everyone! Alaina brings us to Big Moose lake in New York State and shares the tragic story of Grace Brown's murder. Grace's ghost has been seen many times at the lake since she was murdered in 1906 and at the nearby Covewood lodge. We then follow Ash across the country to Oregon, more specifically Crater Lake in Crater Lake National park. Ash shares about all the mysterious disappearing planes, a double murder from 1952 and of course she could never forget the Old Man of the Lake.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Oregon's only national park is a surprisingly dangerous place, and a number of people have died there. Several of these left only bones behind to help us understand what caused their death. (Crater Lake, Klamath County; 1940s, 1970s, 1980s) (For text and pictures, see https://offbeatoregon.com/1309e-skeletons-of-crater-lake.html)

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Crater Lake, the ghost of the mighty Mount Mazama, is more than just breathtakingly blue waters—it's a place steeped in legend, tragedy, and the unexplained. In this episode, we dive into the Klamath Tribes' epic tale of a volcanic battle between the spirits of the Above and Below Worlds, culminating in Mount Mazama's cataclysmic collapse 8,000 years ago.We'll explore the science behind its impossibly clear and vivid blue hue, its standing as the deepest lake in the United States, and its eerie reputation as a sacred and hypnotic site. From the mysterious Old Man of the Lake—a 450-year-old floating log with an uncanny knack for influencing weather—to phantom islands, ghostly lodge residents, and even Bigfoot sightings, Crater Lake proves to be a hotbed of intrigue.Plus, we'll share spine-chilling stories of disappearances, tragic suicides, plane crashes, and UFO sightings over its mirror-like surface. Is it a portal to the underworld? A home to cryptids and aliens? Or simply nature at its most awe-inspiring and enigmatic? Join us as we unravel the haunting tales, paranormal encounters, and unsolved mysteries that make Crater Lake one of the most captivating and spooky spots in the Pacific Northwest.988 Suicide and Crisis LifelineVisit our website! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Patreon, & more! If you have any true crime, paranormal, or witchy stories you'd like to share with us & possibly have them read (out loud) on an episode, email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com or use this link. There are so many ways that you can support the show: BuyMeACoffee, Spreaker, or by leaving a rating & review on Apple Podcasts. Sources

He couldn't claim all the credit for it, although he sometimes tried; and his attitude toward Native Americans was unfortunate. But those who love Crater Lake, in large part, have William Gladstone Steel to thank for it. (Crater Lake, Klamath County; 1880s, 1890s, 1900s) (For text and pictures, see https://offbeatoregon.com/1609cT.crater-lake-will-steel-409.html)

Send us a textOur guest this month is Torie Fox-Phillips, who tells us about the Old Man of Crater Lake. We also discuss the Lust Killer/Shoe Fetish Killer and the seasoned prankster Horace de Vere Cole.Support the showFollow us on Facebook and/or Instagram Find us at our website: www.mysteriesmonstersmayhem.comEmail us at mysteriesmonstersmayhem@gmail.comSupport us at Buy Me A Coffee and get rewards!

Bienvenue dans l'Oregon !L'Etat de Dune.Dans lequel vous pourrez croiser des castors, des chaussures NIKE, des sapins de Noel, et donc Mariah Carey, mais aussi le Crater Lake, un lac d'un bleu indescriptible.Invité : Corentin Sellin.Voix & Réalisation : Guillaume Hennette.Contact : pierreyvespietri@bangumi.fr

Sprague's weird dreams with Swag, RIP Fernando, historic opening night of NBA, NFL Zig or Zag....Dirt mocks Crater Lake, the Blazers open the season with more questions than answers, Josh Pate's weekly visit, CFB needle movers, could Rams move Kupp, and Blazers in Standard Definition.

Dirt hacks off Crater Lake, Blazers open the season with more questions than answers, what is the most interesting storyline, and what do they need to figure out this year...then Josh Pate makes his weekly visit.

Tony Lillios is a leadership coach, entrepreneur, Ironman athlete, and Founder of Spec Products, a design and engineering firm recognized for its innovative tech accessories. With over 20 years of entrepreneurial experience, Tony successfully built Spec Products into a market leader before selling it to Samsonite in 2014, and he continues to invest in ventures through Ringleader Ventures. He is also a 13-time Ironman athlete and a marathon open-water swimmer, known for his unprecedented round-trip crossing of Crater Lake in 2012. His "Integral Path" approach to coaching, shaped by a personal journey of redefining goals, helps clients achieve transformation through the process, rather than the outcome, of their ambitions. In this episode… Many people chase goals relentlessly, only to feel an unsettling emptiness once they achieve them. Focusing solely on success and external validation can leave a person feeling disconnected from their true self, even if they excel professionally. The question becomes: how can you redefine your relationship with achievement to foster a more fulfilling, integrated life? Tony Lillios shares his journey of rethinking goal-setting after realizing that accomplishing more wasn't enough. He emphasizes the importance of viewing goals not as endpoints but as tools for personal growth. Tony's "Integral Path" approach helps individuals use goals to propel meaningful change while focusing on the unfolding process of self-development, not just the outcome. He also encourages embracing uncharted territories — whether in business or personal — by stepping into uncertainty with intention and resilience. Tune in to this episode of the Smart Business Revolution Podcast as John Corcoran interviews Tony Lillios, leadership coach and Founder of Spec Products, about navigating new frontiers in life and business. Tony shared how embracing uncharted territories has manifested in a vibrant, fulfilling life. They discuss Tony's experience with founding a company and selling it to Samsonite, becoming a single gay father through surrogacy, and undertaking endurance challenges like swimming across Crater Lake.

Send us a textWhat if the serene beauty of Crater Lake harbors secrets far darker than you can imagine? On this episode of the Spooky Island Radio Podcast, we journey to the breathtaking Crater Lake National Park in Oregon, unearthing its dramatic birth from the eruption of Mount Mazama around 5500 BC. While the lake's natural and geological wonders are truly mesmerizing, the legends of Jimo Kmach, the creator spirit revered by Native Americans, add a fascinating spiritual layer to this enigmatic location. Prepare to be enthralled as we unravel the park's rich history and the diverse flora and fauna that thrive in this mystical environment.However, the allure of Crater Lake is not without its shadowy mysteries. On October 14, 2006, eight-year-old Sammy Boehlke vanished without a trace, despite exhaustive search efforts. This haunting disappearance sets the stage for the chilling tale of Charles McCullough, known as the "Melting Skeleton," and the tragic case of Derek Engerbretson. As we explore these baffling incidents, we grapple with eerie similarities and theories ranging from severe weather to supernatural forces. Each story leaves us with more questions than answers, amplifying the enigma that surrounds this enigmatic park.To round off this spine-tingling episode, we dive into the intriguing UFO sightings reported around Crater Lake. I'll share my personal encounters and the strange phenomena that have left many baffled. Connect with me on Instagram and TikTok for more updates and to share your own spooky stories. As we wrap up, remember to stay vigilant, keep the lights on, and immerse yourself in the spooky atmosphere until our next eerie adventure.

HOUR ONE: It all started one night in June 2018. The screams coming from underneath the house. It was so intense, the homeowners simply abandoned the property. I'll even share audio of the screams so you can decide for yourself if it's real. (Screams From The Basement) *** Weirdo family member Elis Helmersson shares a story passed down the generations about a true ghost sighting in her family. (My Great Grandfather Saw a Headless Ghost) *** Have investigators finally solved the strange disappearance of Pan Am's Flight 914? (The Mystery of Flight 914) *** Plus, “Werewolves On The Prowl!”==========HOUR TWO: They're powerful in the supernatural. Witches, demons and poltergeists fear them because they are not from our world. The Cherokee call them the Raven Mockers. (The Raven Mocker) *** Betsy's Mysterious Flowers *** A girl's younger sister keeps seeing things that don't exist – until the truth is revealed when older sis is moving out. (Secrets Between Sisters) *** It's called the Chronovisor – and it is said the device can look into events in the future as well as the past. Is it true? We may never know – the Vatican, the supposed owners of the device, are refusing to cooperate when questioned. (Does The Vatican Have a Time Machine?) *** An Alaskan hunter claims to have found a boy that had been kidnapped… not by humans or aliens, but by a mysterious creature knows as the ircenrraat. (Abducted By The Ircenrraat) *** It is considered to be one of the most beautiful lakes in the United States. But there are also tales of ghosts, a giant lake monster, unexplained disappearances, and murders. That's only a sample of what you might find at Oregon's Crater Lake. (The Creeps of Crater Lake) *** Weirdo family member Candice Cardenas tells of a haunting in her mobile home. (This Ghost Loves Brass) *** Dreaming About Owls==========SOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM TONIGHT'S SHOW: “Betsy's Mysterious Flowers” by Brandon Grimes for Paranormality Magazine: https://weirddarkness.com/magazine“The Raven Mocker” by Jeramy Neurign: http://bit.ly/2RUcsSG“Secrets Between Sister” posted at BackpackerVerse: http://bit.ly/2NsJtXj“Does The Vatican Have a Time Machine” posted at Disclose.TV (link no longer valid)“Abducted By The Ircenrraat” originally published in the Anchorage Daily News: (link no longer available)““The Creeps of Crater Lake” by Christopher Schulz: http://bit.ly/2LxmZ4N“This Ghost Loves Brass” submitted by Weirdo family member Candice Cardenas“Dreaming About Owls” by Nicole Whitney for Paranormality Magazine: https://weirddarkness.com/magazine“The Mystery of Flight 914”: JJ Foster (link no longer valid), Hoax or Fact (link no longer valid) and Snopes:http://bit.ly/2RS2voI“Screams From The Basement” written by Robert Harries (link no longer available); captured audio by Alan Tait: http://bit.ly/2RUdyxv“My Great Grandfather Saw a Headless Ghost” by Weirdo family member Elis Helmersson“Werewolves On The Prowl” by John Beale for Paranormality Magazine: https://weirddarkness.com/magazine==========(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for material I use whenever possible. If I have overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it immediately. Some links may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)=========="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46==========WeirdDarkness®, WeirdDarkness© 2024==========To become a Weird Darkness Radio Show affiliate, contact Radio America at affiliates@radioamerica.com, or call 800-807-4703 (press 2 or dial ext 250).

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Darkness Syndicate members get the ad-free version with all artwork created for the YouTube and podcast thumbnails:https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8k5ku4IN THIS EPISODE: A girl's younger sister keeps seeing things that don't exist – until the truth is revealed when older sis is moving out. (Secrets Between Sisters) *** It's called the Chronovisor – and it is said the device can look into events in the future as well as the past. Is it true? We may never know – the Vatican, the supposed owners of the device, are refusing to cooperate when questioned. (Does The Vatican Have a Time Machine?) *** An Alaskan hunter claims to have found a boy that had been kidnapped… not by humans or aliens, but by a mysterious creature knows as the ircerratt. (Abducted By The Ircenrratt) *** It is considered to be one of the most beautiful lakes in the United States. But there are also tales of ghosts, a giant lake monster, unexplained disappearances, and murders. That's only a sample of what you might find at Oregon's Crater Lake. (The Creeps of Crater Lake) *** Weirdo family member Candice Cardenas tells of a haunting in her mobile home. (This Ghost Loves Brass) *** They're powerful in the supernatural. Witches, demons and poltergeists fear them because they are not from our world. The Cherokee call them the Raven Mockers. (The Raven Mocker)CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Show Open00:02:29.362 = The Raven Mocker00:09:31.254 = Secrets Between Sister00:12:40.927 = Does The Vatican Have a Time Machine?00:18:04.544 = Abducted By The Ircenraat00:23:02.260 = The Creeps of Crater Lake00:35:12.950 = This Ghost Loves Brass00:38:16.600 = Show CloseSOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…“The Raven Mocker” by Jeramy Neurign: http://bit.ly/2RUcsSG“Secrets Between Sister” posted at BackpackerVerse: http://bit.ly/2NsJtXj“Does The Vatican Have a Time Machine” posted at Disclose.TV: http://bit.ly/2Lzxvsz“Abducted By The Ircenrraat” originally published in the Anchorage Daily News: (link no longer available)““The Creeps of Crater Lake” by Christopher Schulz: http://bit.ly/2LxmZ4N“This Ghost Loves Brass” submitted by Weirdo family member Candice CardenasWeird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library.= = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2024, Weird Darkness.= = = = =Originally aired: July 03, 2019CUSTOM LANDING PAGE: https://weirddarkness.com/chronovisor

Concessions are the backbone of the National Park System. True, the National Park Service manages the parks and the wildlife and the visitors, but the concessionaires provide you with a bed, or campsite, to sleep in, restaurants to dine in, and gift shops to browse in. Xanterra Parks and Resorts is one of the key players in the national park concessions industry. They operate lodges in Yellowstone, Crater Lake, Death Valley, Glacier, Grand Canyon and, until the end of this year, Zion National Park. A newcomer on the park concessions scene is POWDR Corp., a self-branded adventure company most tied to snow sports. This past January, however, POWDR took over the concessions at Stovepipe Wells Village in Death Valley National Park, and this coming January it'll be operating concessions at Zion National Park.  To learn more about POWDR and why it's seeking opportunities in the National Park System, we've invited Justin Sibley, the company's CEO, to discuss the transition. We'll be back in a minute with Justin.

If you're up for the challenge, biking around Crater Lake's scenic Rim Drive is arguably one of the best cycling routes in the state. Even sweeter, the road is almost entirely closed to vehicle traffic for two days every summer. This week on Peak Northwest podcast, co-host Vickie Connor chats about participating in Ride the Rim 2024 and why the trip is a perfect end cap to your bike summer. Here are some highlights from this week's show: Why participating in the annual free event is a more fun and supported way of doing this ride. How far and difficult the full ride is. Opting for a mid-ride cliff jump into the lake is almost always a good idea. Lodging options in the area. You may even have a bear cub sighting. Subscribe to Peak Northwest on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to episode 70 of the One for the Money podcast. I am so very grateful you have taken the time to listen. In this episode, I answer the question “How much should one spend on vacation?”In the tips, tricks, and strategies portion, I will share some cost-saving travel tips. In this episode...How Much Should You Spend [3:15]Why You Should Travel [6:21]Travel Saving Tips [8:56]MAINWhen it comes to travel, St Augustine and Mark Twain said it best in my opinion. St Augustine said that -The world is a book and those who do not travel only read one page. And Mark Twain said - Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.My family and I are enamored with travel because of what we learn about the world, other cultures, and about ourselves. There are few things that create better memories than a vacation. Some have argued that life is really about collecting wonderful memories and research has shown that people tend to be happier when they have purchased experiences rather than things. That certainly is the case with our family. When both my children and my business were young, we traveled by car around the Western United States and Western Canada. We love the outdoors and visited over 25 national parks in both the US and Canada with Banff, Jasper, Waterton, Glacier, Yosemite, and Crater Lake being some of our favorites but there were so many others that were really great as well. As my business and kids grew we have been fortunate to be able to take a few international trips with Moorea and Cinque Terre being some of our favorites. When our family talks about our favorite memories it almost always involves experiences we've had together on our trips and our favorite family photos have come from our trips as well.This is why I am a strong advocate of traveling. It doesn't have to require an airplane, because seeing a local museum or park can also provide a memorable time. In fact, when I was a kid our family never took an airplane on our trips. Instead, we all piled in our wood-paneled station wagon with the rear-facing seats in the back and went to the national park near our home, and a couple of times we visited family that lived in the Western States of Utah, California, and Texas. It was an incredibly long drive from Alberta, Canada but I have some cherished memories from those trips. One question that many ask is how much should one spend on travel. Some financial experts recommend that you spend 5-10% of your net income per year on vacations.For example, if your net income is $100k a year, and as a reminder that is your income after taxes and retirement contributions. then you could reasonably spend $5-10k a year on vacations.My family and I tend to spend more than 10% but we restrict our expenses in other areas of spending to compensate. We only eat out rarely and if we do it's usually inn-n-out. Our kids don't participate in club sports and just play AYSO soccer instead. With savings in those areas, we are able to do more on our vacations. When it comes to money for vacation it should be saved in advance of the year of travel and would be in addition to what you have in your emergency savings.I recommend you tentatively plan your upcoming trips for the coming years so you can anticipate the expenses. We have already planned our travel destinations for the next 2-3 years. I'll do research on the expected expenses and create a Google spreadsheet that forecasts potential transportation, accommodations, food, activity, and other related

This time Jeff and Scott discuss Jeff's adventures with his grandkids, public transportation, concerts, and Erik gives an update on some of Tacoma's upcoming sporting events. 01:20 – Jeff and Scott kick off the podcast chatting about their previous episode, Scott talks about taking his visiting family to Crypticon, and Jeff talks about his amazing grandkids.  He talks about doing senior portraits in Tacoma for his grandson, how he accommodated the family during their stay, and places he got pics at in downtown Tacoma.  10:17 – Jeff discusses the amount of food high school kids consume, sharing the Sonics Guy mural in Tacoma with them, and they chat about the cool places in Tacoma to explore.  Scott talks about the recent beautiful days in the PNW, Jeff shares Lemmy's adventures, and the jam sessions he got to have while the kids were visiting. 20:57 – Jeff talks about the grandkids getting in their first car accident while traveling to Tacoma, Scott talks about the packed public transportation recently in Seattle, and Jeff talks about Pink's recent visit to Tacoma.  Jeff expresses his love of watching concerts at the Gorge, Scott chats about his recent visit to Crater Lake, and his plans to get a Point Defiance Zoo membership. 30:26 – Jeff shares his favorite Galactic Druid Treats treat, gives information on where people can find them in the area, and turns it over to Eric's Sports segment.  Eric gives an update on the haps of Tacoma sports, Jeff talks about the upcoming Patron stuff, and putting the finishing touches on the GCP Adult coloring book.

From rumored Bigfoot sightings to a vanishing island, there is no shortage of mystery in the waters of Crater Lake. At 1,943 feet, the lake is the seventh deepest in the world and is best known for its sapphire blue color and astonishing size. Visitors can marvel at the massive crater formed thousands of years ago in a volcanic eruption and enjoy many activities that change with the seasons, but many find themselves drawn to a stump. Referred to as "The Old Man," the log has slowly navigated the lake's waters for well over 100 years, and the mystery of its movement and ability to remain upright continues to perplex scientists and parkgoers alike. Early travelers stood atop it in the open water; others were certain it controlled the weather. Still, like the lake itself, The Old Man is an indescribable fascination that continues to inspire the minds of many. This week America'sa's National Parks, Crater Lake, and the Old Man. Hosted by Jason Epperson Written By Lizzie Tesch Use code PARKS30 for $30 off of a $500 or more booking at www.rvshare.com.

"Sucking Wind" is a term coined by Crater Lake park rangers to describe the moment when someone walks up to the rim of the caldera for the first time and takes a deep breath, overwhelmed by the surreal scene. Today, we have the privilege of interviewing Superintendent Craig Ackerman, the caretaker of this inspirational and sacred place, Crater Lake National Park. Crater Lake National Park is located in Southern Oregon, and the lake itself is the deepest in the U.S. Known as the “Mirror of Heaven”, the lake's deep blue color comes from its purity and clarity. In this episode, you'll learn about the historic journey of how Crater Lake became a National Park, thanks to the heroic and persistent efforts of a single person. You'll learn about story of the "Old Man of the Lake," a 30-foot log that floats vertically around the lake. And, you'll learn about Crater Lake's sister parks in Slovenia and China, the tale of a car in neutral tumbling 1,000 feet into the lake, and a unique biking event called Ride the Rim. After listening, Crater Lake will quickly jump to the top of your bucket list.Correction Corner The Ride the Rim Event website is https://ridetherimoregon.com/ Sponsors:Who Runs This Park is presented by ExpertVoice: Outdoor brands like Big Agnes, Mammut, La Sportiva, Chaco and more offer discounts on ExpertVoice of up to 60% off for industry experts like you. And you can join ExpertVoice for free today and see what brands you qualify for. So whatever the next adventure calls for, make sure you are prepared with expertvoice.com/parks and gear up for adventure.Go to ritualchocolate.com & use code WRTP to get 10% off any online purchase. They are my favorite chocolate brand so go you definitely gotta go and use the code!!You can follow Who Runs This Park on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook or YouTube, can email us at info@whorunsthispark.com or check us out online at whorunsthispark.com. Sign up for the Who Runs This Park's newsletter at linktr.ee/whorunsthispark. Who Runs This Park, presented by ExpertVoice, is hosted and produced by Maddie Pellman, with music by Danielle Bees.

Tonight, the gang is all here to discuss tragic disappearances around Crater Lake, Oregon.

An East German man, running from the law in a stolen Volvo full of guns and fake IDs, apparently dropped the hand grenade he was preparing to throw at the pursuing officer and was unable to retrieve it in time. (Crater Lake, Klamath County; 1980s) (For text and pictures, see https://offbeatoregon.com/1711b.merzejuskis-blows-self-up-at-crater-lake-469.html)

Crater Lake is one of those places where you can, and probably should, spend a few days exploring. Between Rim Drive, the historic lodge and loads of nearby hikes, there's enough there for days of adventure. But sometimes you don't have that time. On this week's episode of Peak Northwest, we go through a recent one-night visit to Oregon's famous national park, discussing how to make the most of a short trip to the caldera. Here are some highlights from this week's show: Where to stay in and around the park. Going early in the season might mean fewer crowds, but also less to do. Stopping for gas and stumbling onto a pair of gorgeous waterfalls. Where to find great hiking off the rim of the lake. -- Jamie Hale and Vickie Connor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greetings, y'all Since we covered David Paulides' shitty doc this week on the podcast, I figured I would cover some strange disappearances that have always stuck with me. Enjoy! Sources: The Cold Vanish: Seeking the Missing in North America's Wildlands by Jon Billman “The Disappearance of Steven Kubacki at the Lake Michigan Triangle, 1978,” 99.1 WFMK “The disappearance of Steven Kubacki in the Lake Michigan Triangle” Strange Outdoors “The Disappearance and Reappearance of Steven Kubacki Case” by Mr. K “The Bizarre Wilderness Vanishing of Aaron Hedges” by Brett Swancer, Mysterious Universe “Aaron Hedges Disappearance. What do you think happened? Foul play? Supernatural? Bad Luck?” reddit “Missing in the Smokies: Dennis Martin's disappearance still haunts park, 52 years later” by Matt Lakin, Knox News “‘An enduring mystery': Why Dennis Martin's disappearance fascinates us, 50 years later” by Matt Lakin, Knox News FBI Files Related to the Dennis Martin disappearance Dimensions: A Casebook of Alien Contact by Jacques Vallee “In 1975, Charles McCullar, 19-year-old aspiring photographer, was reported missing after presumably hiking through Crater Lake, OR. A year later, his broken and damaged skeletal remains were accidentally found by two hikers.” reddit Theme song: "Ufo" by Floats, available on Soundcloud, iTunes and Spotify Logo designed by Megan Lagerberg

To see the VIDEO and SLIDESHOW of this episode, click or copy link - https://youtu.be/P8SBrDVsyto - In this Episode of Mysteries with a History, we will explore the shocking cases of mysterious disappearances, UFO sightings, Encounters with Ghosts, Native American Legends, and other bizarre mysteries about Crater Lake in Oregon.Crater Lake in Oregon is a stunning natural wonder, formed by the collapse of a volcano over 7,700 years ago. Its deep blue waters, reaching depths of nearly 2,000 feet, make it the deepest lake in the United States. While the lake's beauty is undeniable, it also harbors some intriguing mysteries. Additionally, despite having no visible inlet or outlet, the lake maintains a relatively stable water level, leading to questions about its hydrological systems. Some visitors have also reported unexplained sounds and sightings around the lake, adding to its air of mystery.The NEW CHANNEL - https://www.youtube.com/@Factsophical?sub_confirmation=1  ❤️ EXCLUSIVE FREE MERCH INCLUDED & BEHIND-THE-SCENES ONLY FOR MY SUPPORTERS ON PATREON ➔ https://www.patreon.com/paradigm_shifts/membershipBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/strange-and-unexplained--5235662/support.If you enjoy the show, please leave a review..!!MYSTERIES WITH A HISTORY PLAYLIST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLneWjPNXc1RxFVOxYfFaC_u7DM3fvc8gdVisit my website with Blogs, Videos, and Podcast direct links - https://strangeparadigms.com/

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In this episode of Building Texas Business, I chat with Mike Snavely, CEO of Phunware. Mike details Phunware's evolution from a mobile development agency into a thriving SaaS company delivering high-ROI apps to hotels and healthcare providers. Hear how shifting culture from rigid control to empowering autonomous teams with accountability revived success. Key strategic maneuvers included trimming the workforce judiciously and securing capital patiently. Timely decisions breathe new life into businesses' surfaces repeatedly. We delve into crafting a trusting, candid culture. Difficult conversations are promptly addressed and failures learned foster innovation and resilience. I share that I founded such an environment at a former startup. Mike's unique hobby of creatively mapping dream destinations blends work wisdom with life's pleasures, crafting an episode uplifting attendees' strategies and spirits. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS Mike Snavely explains the evolution of Phunware from a mobile solution development agency to a SaaS company that specializes in customized mobile apps for hotels and healthcare institutions. We discuss the strategic decisions and cultural shifts necessary during the transition to new leadership at Phunware, including capital injection and reshaping the balance sheet for growth. Mike highlights the move from a command-and-control culture to one that champions autonomy and accountability, emphasizing the importance of empowering team leaders. We explore the significance of building a leadership team grounded in trust, accountability, autonomy, and candor, and how these principles contribute to a positive organizational culture. Mike shares his personal career journey, detailing his long-standing experience in mobile technology and his eventual rise to the CEO position at Phunware. We examine how Phunware fosters a culture of appreciation and collaboration through a Slack channel called Momentum, which recognizes and celebrates employee contributions. Mike talks about balancing professional obligations with personal passions, including the importance of prioritizing family and maintaining a positive trajectory in both areas. We discuss the importance of in-person engagement for building and maintaining key relationships with stakeholders, despite the trend toward virtual interactions. Mike reflects on past experiences and learnings, including the value of having prompt and honest conversations to avoid delays in decision-making and mitigate potential failures. We delve into Mike's hobby of pinning dream travel destinations on Google Maps and how this practice turns travel planning into an immersive and memorable adventure. LINKSShow Notes Previous Episodes About BoyarMiller About Phunware GUESTS Mike SnavelyAbout Mike TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Chris: In today's episode, you will meet Mike Snavely, ceo of Funware. In building and maintaining key relationships with your stakeholders, mike shares his opinions on why there is no substitute for being in person to engage on a human level. Mike, I want to welcome you to Building Texas Business and thank you for taking time to come on the show with me. Glad to be here. Thanks for the invitation. So, as the CEO of Funware, let's start by just orienting the listeners to what is Funware and tell us what the company's known for. Mike: Sure so. Funware is a 15-year-old publicly traded company based in Austin, Texas. We build mobile experiences that help hotels and healthcare institutions engage their guests and patients while they're on premises in ways that drive satisfaction and monetization. Chris: Very interesting. So you said the company started I guess in the early 2000s. Mike: Then it would have been in 2009. The company started. It was private for the first 11 or so years of its existence and then we went public via SPAC transaction in 2000. I believe it was 20. Chris: Okay, and it sounds like a fairly niched focus for the company. How did it come to be that the company, I guess, was so focused on kind of those two industries and providing that type of, I guess, service to those customers? Mike: Well, originally it wasn't. So over 15 years, you might imagine, there's been an evolution in the focus of the company, and so the company in 2009 was really more of a mobile solution development agency. So some of the biggest brands you know in the world really selected Funware back in the timeframe to build some of their first mobile apps in the app store. So companies like Fox, the NFL, the Sochi Olympics, wwe, a number of airports and so on were spending a lot of money to build their first mobile application and then to develop their first mobile audience. For lots of reasons and that was two years after the iPhone was introduced. It was actually before the iPad was introduced and so obviously there's a lot of evolution of consumer expectations when it comes to engaging on mobile, and those brands were spending a lot of money in the early comes to engaging on mobile, and those brands were spending a lot of money in the early days to build their first mobile presences. That's evolved over time, and so agencies are really not, they really don't drive the valuation that a SaaS company does, and so we've, over time, evolved into becoming a SaaS company. So we license our technologies. We'll essentially build an app, configuring it for the customer, launch it into the app store and then generate license fees off that app for as long as it exists and is available for download. That's a much better valuation model because typically when our customers get involved with us they stick around. Our retention rate is very high because we drive a positive ROI. So we've kind of followed the evolution of mobile from really high investment work for hire, boutique agency-like development all the way through today where we charge between 50 and $150,000 a year for a given property, whether it's a hotel or a hospital, to have their own mobile app in the app store, to have their own brand in front of their users or guests and then ultimately to develop that one-on-one relationship with that guest or patient in a way that drives repeat business and satisfaction and additional monetization. Chris: That's fascinating. Now you mentioned retention rate. What do you which obviously is very important for success of a company, especially like yours what do you attribute that successful retention rate to? Mike: Well, we do good work and I can make available to you a list and you could even put it in the podcast if you'd like of the apps that we build, or some of the apps that we build. They're beautiful apps. So, number one, we do really high-quality work that all of our customers are proud to have their name on. And then, number two, we drive ROI, plain and simple. For a dollar they put into our solutions, they get between $5 and $50 back, depending on who they are and the specifics of their business. And you know, if I could give you a machine that would, you put a dollar bill in, you get a five or a 50 back out. You would say how many dollar bills can I put in there? Chris: Yeah, no, no, kidding, right Well. I mean, but fundamentally, you mentioned at least you know two fundamental things that is key to customer retention. That's one provide good service. If you're in the service industry, it starts with providing good service and I think an outcome of that is your customer sees a valuable return on the investment for your service. Those are not unique to software but for any kind of service type business right, exactly, that's right. Let's talk a little bit about your. So you're the CEO. The company was founded by others than yourself. How did you come, I guess, to work at Funware and I know just a little bit that you've had this is like your second stint there but give us a little background on your connection to the company and how it was you became the CEO. Mike: Yeah, sure enough. So I've really made a career of pursuing technology trends. So I'm kind of an old guy so I've been in business for a long time. But I started off in offline marketing technologies, sending out snail mail and running telephone centers. Then I evolved into social marketing with a startup in Austin, texas. I then got into mobile and I've been in mobile really kind of on and off ever since. Mobile's a big deal because you've got a device that knows who you are and knows where you are, you tell it all your secrets. It really is an indispensable. It's become an indispensable tool. And so I've really made kind of a career over the last shoot 15 years at this point in mobile. And so I was originally with my first stint in mobile was with a little mobile application development boutique in Austin called Mutual Mobile. That was 2008, 9, 10, 11 timeframe Did something else and then I was recruited to come to Funware by somebody who had worked for me at Mutual Mobile and I said look, we're building out this platform company. We're very interested in having somebody who can really help to drive revenues. Would you be interested in joining? So that in 14, I joined Funware for the first time and I came to run the software business. So I was responsible for all revenues for the software business of Funware from 14 through 16 or so, got to know the company, got to really understand the technologies Actually, a number of the people who were there then are still with the company. Then I went off, worked at a Silicon Valley startup and did a couple of other things, couple of other things. And then, when the founding CEO left in 23, they hired a guy that I had worked with at Mutual Mobile back in the day as the new CEO and he said look, mike, I know that you're great at building businesses on the revenue side. Would you like to come and be my CRO, as I'm CEO of Funware? And he said I'll make it worth your while. So I said no a couple of times and then eventually I said yes. Well, this was September of last year that I rejoined the company and 30 days in the board said look, you know, what we really need is somebody with sales DNA at CEO. Let's try that again. Easy for me to say CEO role. So, mike, would you like to step in as CEO? So I actually I had a buddy who brought me back to be a CRO and then wound up taking this job. We're still friends, we still talk all the time and he was very supportive of that move. But a long story short, I think that the company for a time kind of lost its way in the simple fact of selling, servicing accounts and driving revenues, and that's something I've had the good fortune to develop pretty good skill at, and so now I'm the CEO and I'm going to tell you I think the E in CEO stands for extra. Everything about it is extra, but it really is the best job I've ever had and I'm really enjoying it. I still spend a lot of time working with customers, selling, identifying strategic partnerships and that kind of thing, because I enjoy it, I feel like I'm good at it and it's absolutely critical to positioning the company for growth and valuation, which is exactly my job. Chris: There you go, so let's talk a little bit about that. What are some of the things that you do to build and maintain relationships with those partners, customers, strategic relationships that you think someone listening might learn? Mike: from. Well, it's funny, there's been a real trend away from in-person, and so you and I are meeting today on Zoom. Our business, funware, is essentially 100% virtual at this point, and what I find is there's no substitute for hopping on a plane and going to see somebody, breaking bread with them, getting to know them as a person, understanding what it is they're trying to accomplish, what their hopes and dreams are, what their fears are. Once you get to that point and really just kind of understanding them as a person, and then exposing yourself as a person and say, look, you know, this is what I'm trying to accomplish, mr and Ms, partner or prospect, and really kind of, you know, engaging on a human level, which you know is a whole lot easier for sitting across the desk from somebody, and that's that to me, is is where I spend a lot of my time. I do invest a lot of time in in person, you know, spending time with customers, prospects, partners and the rest of it, and I really just don't think there's much of a substitute for that. Chris: Couldn't agree more. I think that's how, really, until the pandemic, it's how business got done in person. I don't think anything's changed here. I think, especially these days, I think it says so much more that you take the time to do that when you could otherwise, yeah, do a Teams or Zoom call or whatever, and just the human interaction I mean. As humans, I think we're meant to be together, right and interact, and I think that just fosters the relationship. So great advice there. Keeping on that kind of theme you've come back in not in an easy economic time, so let's talk a little bit about managing through kind of some economic uncertain, rising interest rates and all the stuff that's out there in the news. Let's talk about kind of what are some of the things you've done to stay focused and keep your people focused on driving the business forward? Mike: Sure enough. Well, there are some benefits and some drawbacks to being a public and trading company. Of course One is access to the capital markets. That's a benefit, and we certainly have the ability to draw capital out of the markets in ways that don't require us to be as susceptible to excuse me, the interest rate environment, but that doesn't mean that our customers aren't susceptible to that environment. And so we've had to do some things. Selling into hospitality and healthcare, I mean, we're typically selling into pretty big organizations and they have a little bit of a buffer, I suppose, from the ebbs and flows of the economy, particularly when you look at luxury hospitality. I mean, COVID aside, luxury hospitality has really been on a growth tear because of the generation of a lot of wealth on the part of a lot of people and they're wanting to spend it on high-quality experiences. But that doesn't mean that we don't have to be creative from time to time when it comes to pricing a deal or generating terms that are acceptable to the customer. They can digest, they can maybe capitalize the expense as opposed to turning into an OPEX expense and that kind of thing, and certainly we've had to be creative there. When I first took on the CEO role. The company was having a little bit of financial trouble and you could read in our public filings all about it. But, long story short, we were having problems with access to capital and I had to work with my CFO and others you know capital partners to really inject some capital into the company from the market in ways that allowed us, you know, the ability to move forward without paying a lot of interest, frankly. So we were able to kind of reshape the balance sheet in a way that puts us in a great spot for growth today Smaller companies I can only imagine what it must be like if you're dealing with debt financing, distinct from capital financing, and what some of the challenges there must be. We had to make some hard decisions in connection with the recapitalization of the company that had to do with people, in large part because that's our number one expense and those are hard things to do, and I spent many a sleepless night, you know, because I had to do some of those things. But the fact of the matter is that most companies don't cut fast enough and they don't cut deep enough because of those reasons, and it feels terrible, but preserving the company and giving ourselves the ability to go forward and thrive is really kind of the job for the shareholders. Chris: Yeah, and yeah, I agree. I think, regardless of the size of the company, making those people decisions are extremely difficult because, again, we went back to in person and it's human and these people have been with you typically and but it's what they say, right, it is when you have to make the hard cuts, you have to cut muscle and those can be challenging decisions. On the flip side of that, sure, as you come into the CEO role, you are either have or still in the process of building your team. What are some of the things that you do? Processes maybe you've created to help you identify the right people to surround yourself with to further the mission and strategies of the company. Mike: Well, there are two non-delegable duties that the CEO has, in my belief. Number one it's setting the strategy of the company. So we're going to be a SaaS company serving these markets, we're going to drive toward these margins, we're going to deliver in this way, and these are the things that are important for the strategy of the business. Number two is the culture of the business, and so I can't hire somebody to give me a culture. I've got to work with the company to create the culture that we want, and so I'll give you a little bit of a story there. So I have a lot of respect for the fellows who founded the company, a lot of respect for them, because they built something that I now have the good fortune to run and take to the next level. But there was a lot of. They were literally army guys, and there was a lot of army DNA in the company. Now that there's nothing wrong with that, there's nothing at all wrong with that, and the company was successful for a number of years, but and the culture that was built was one of command and control, because that's what the army is Right. Chris: Well, it's not. I'll just interrupt it. That's also not atypical of kind of startup mentality. Right, it's dominant kind of leadership. Got to get it done, got to get this off the ground. Mike: Yep, dominant leadership plus the military background equaled very much a command and control structure, a bit of a cult of personality around the founding CEO, and all of that, you know, paid great dividends. For a long time, I could not be any more different from the founding CEO. I'm not an army guy, you know. And so one of the first things I did when I took on the job is I said look, you know, you know if you're the vice president of sales or you're the vice president of, you know of product or delivery or deployments or whatever it is. You're the CEO of your own business and I'm not going to tell you what to do. I'm going to give you an objective and I'm going to give you the flexibility and the support to go and achieve that objective. You need people. You get people. You need investment. You get investment. But your accountability is to go and run your portion of the business as if you were the CEO. I'm not going to micromanage the decisions at all. I'm going to empower you to do the right thing number one for the customer, because then that ultimately becomes the right thing for the company over many observations and so that was a transition that some people are still working through. Frankly, in leadership roles within the company. It's sometimes people get comfortable being told what to do and we just we don't do that anymore. And you know a couple of people have left as a result of that. They did not have that comfort and that's okay because it's not the right job for them anymore. But most people have really embraced the opportunity of agency and empowerment and the ability to kind of run their own part of the business. ADVERT Hello friends, this is Chris Hanslick, your Building Texas business host. Did you know that Boyer Miller, the producer of this podcast, is a business law firm that works with entrepreneurs, corporations and business leaders? Our team of attorneys serve as strategic partners to businesses by providing legal guidance to organizations of all sizes. Get to know the firm at boyermillercom. And thanks for listening to the show. Chris: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to unpack there, but clearly what you're talking about in my terms are giving people autonomy, but with accountability, which I think is the right way to go. However, organizations evolve over time, just like people. So I think we talk about command and control in the early days. That, for most companies, may make sense, but where this company is now and size and scale, you couldn't do that because there's too much going on and you have to then hire the right people, and the people that work for the company in the first few years may not work, you know, 10 years, 15 years later, because different skill sets needed, right, so it sounds like you've got your hands around that pretty well. Mike: Well, you know, it's always a work in progress, and so one of the one of the accelerants to adopting a new cultural tone is bringing in people, you know right. So I brought in a couple of guys and they are both guys, I'm afraid, who I had worked with a number of times in the past, who I knew kind of got the way that we wanted to run the railroad and who are are the kind of guys who just roll up their sleeves every day and make the most of the day. And, you know, those guys are not only in leadership roles within the company but they're also, you know, setting a tone for the others they work with most closely day to day, and I absolutely think it's working. Chris: That's great. So kind of sum that conversation up for us how would you define the culture of Funware today? Mike: I'd say that we're kind of a restart up, but with all the good elements of a startup, and what I mean by that is that we had a revenue profile that grew, grew and then it kind of dropped off. For some reason I wasn't here, and we're in the process of growing back up and we're getting in the right people who are interested in not only doing great work and serving the customers really well and building a terrific product, but also ones who are embracing the autonomy and the accountability that we're providing to them, and I couldn't be any more pleased with the reception that I'm getting. Chris: Anything special that you've kind of put in place to kind of help foster that type of culture so that you can perpetuate it and see it grow. Mike: Well, we tend to recognize the behaviors that we're looking for, and here's what I mean by that. So you know, somebody will just do a thing right and they'll do it. They'll achieve an accomplishment, whatever that accomplishment may be, and we'll talk. We've got a Slack channel. Slack is a tool we use all day long, every day, and we have a Slack channel called Momentum, and the Momentum channel is really about recognizing the contributions that a person makes, and the deal is that if you put something in Momentum, you've got to recognize somebody else. So you say, hey, a great thing happened, you got to recognize somebody else. So you say, hey, a great thing happened. And I want to thank Bob over here for his contribution to the thing, because Bob, you know, contributed in a way that if he hadn't done that, you know we might not have gotten the outcome that we're looking for. You know that that's something that you see traffic in every single day, that's great. Chris: We obviously I can relate to that we do something similar here at the firm Every single day. That's great, I can relate to that. We do something similar here at the firm, not necessarily on a specific channel, but it's kind of become part of our culture to. We call them core value kudos and it's about recognizing other people not yourself, obviously in efforts that they made and tying them to our mission and values, so that the behaviors and the values marry up right. And then people. It makes it tangible that I want to thank or, you know, congratulate someone for doing X, Y and Z which demonstrated this value in action. Mike: That's terrific. Yeah, I've been in companies that have done that. I think that's something that I may need to reincorporate into my bag of tricks there, for sure that have done that. I think that's something that I may need to reincorporate into my bag of tricks there for sure. Chris: So you know along those lines your software company. I always am interested to know what are you doing to kind of promote or foster creativity and innovation within the company? Mike: Well, some of the things that you know it's interesting, I'm going to I'll give you maybe a little bit longer answer you might be looking for, but there is, and it's really important to kind of separate the day-to-day from the long-term vision. And what I mean by that is that I'm, let's say, a developer and today I have to fix a bug, and I just have to fix the bug because the bug exists and it's in the way of something happening and it's not my favorite part of the job, I'm quite confident of that. Not my favorite part of the job, I'm quite confident of that. Not my favorite part of the job to fix a bug. But there is some long range stuff that I'm really excited about. A big part of what we do is indoor wayfinding and hyperlocal marketing offers, and there are lots and lots of innovations that we're looking at right now, and so we identify people who are interested in innovation. We put together both formal processes for them to say, okay, you're on the R&D team and you're going to be doing this work, but we also give them informal opportunities. Hey, look, I want you to go to Denver to our customer with Gaylord Rockies and I want you to actually go into the physical space that we're trying to map, and I want you to help me figure out a better way to do it. And so that's two things. It's number one, solving a strategic problem for the business, but it's also kind of getting them out of their, since we're all virtual, it's getting them out of their own office, sending them to Denver, take an extra day, engage the customer, do great work, but also enjoy yourself a little bit. So we try to give people an opportunity to get out of the context within which they're working sitting in my home office squashing bugs and get out into the real world where our solutions are deployed in ways that are not only sort of fun but also problem solving. Chris: So you've been in some leadership roles throughout your career, obviously CEO now. How would you describe your leadership style and how do you think it's evolved over the last few years? Mike: Well, I try to work with people. I try to work as best I can. You can't always do that right, but you can absolutely make the investment of time to get to know them, and so I walk into this job. I've got a CFO that I just met very recently, and I had a chief legal officer that I met just recently, and I had a chief operating officer that I had known actually for some time and one of those guys wound up leaving that I had known actually for some time and you know, one of those guys wound up leaving. But you know the other two guys that I had just met. I made it a real point of going to where they were, sitting down with them breaking bread, understanding who they are, what they were trying to accomplish, why they were at the company in the first place and all the rest of it, because it was important for me to understand whether I could trust and whether it was appropriate to invest in these guys. Right and absolutely it was. By the way, I had a couple of gaps in my leadership team and what I did was find people that I'd worked with in the past and I said, look, are you willing to come and work for me again, and the answer in every case was absolutely so, and that's not because I'm the greatest guy in the world or because I gave him a zillion dollars or anything like that. It's because we have, over the years, established a working cadence that's founded on this idea of trust and accountability, autonomy of action and really candor of discussion. There's nothing that the leadership team and I don't discuss in detail and with candor. We're not afraid to tell our truths to each other. We've created what I think is a safe space for us to really talk about what's on our mind and what concerns or challenges we have, or if somebody is all wet, you know, and and that kind of. That kind of culture. The executive table, I think, filters down to the rest of the business in ways that help support the culture we're trying to build. Chris: Yeah, and I was gonna say it sounds like it's a culture of safety to have the hard conversations, but that those conversations are done in a respectful way. Mike: Yeah. Chris: I don't know if there's no better way to do it Right, and it's okay to fail. Mike: And I got to tell you, I used to race, I used to race cars a long time ago and you know, if you don't crash, you're not driving fast enough and so it's okay. It's okay to crash every once in a while because that means you're pushing the envelope, You're trying to get, you know, you're trying to get to the edge of the performance envelope and that's positive. Chris: Yeah, no, let's talk about that, cause I I there. There's always learning, and so I think there's. You know, when you have setbacks or failures, you can learn from them and it can make you better. Don't let it define you. So can you give us an example of more than not the car racing, because crashing is easy to understand as a failure, but in the business world, as a leader something that you felt a failure of yours, a bad decision, a setback that you absolutely grew from, and it's made you better today. Mike: Yeah, sure enough, I think that my greatest learnings are not being decisive enough and not acting quickly enough. And so you know, let's say, for example, I'll give you the example of last company I worked for before. Well, yes, I'll give you that example. So I was working at an AI video startup in Madison, Wisconsin. It was essentially a unit of a publicly traded company that I won't name, but your viewers can certainly look it up. And, long story short, that company is now bankrupt and I don't fault any of the. I don't fault the CEO of that company, which was not me, by the way, in that, but I fault myself. Yeah, exactly, it wasn't me. I didn't bankrupt the company. This was a guy I had worked with before were pretty small, and so what I said was I need this much to make this happen. I was given about half that much and I didn't adequately reset the expectations on how long it was going to take to get that thing done, slash. I should have had probably more pointed discussion about is this worth doing at all, and I didn't do that. And the long story short is that company is now bankrupt for lots of reasons, but the thing that I that my not being as aggressive as I felt like I should have been was a contributor to that. I think it was a small contributor, but you know all that to say that it didn't help. Chris: And so I kind of trace it. I would say the learning for you is kind of having the hard conversations faster right and that's the kind of culture that's terrifically important for me. Mike: So that informs the culture I'm building at Funware, which is like, if this ain't going to work, I just need you to tell me, and I might disagree and I might argue with you, but I will absolutely hear you. I might argue with you, but I will absolutely hear you. It's going to be super important for us to just trust each other enough to be able to have the discussion about you know, without fear. I guess is where I'm coming from. Chris: I understand that, so let's talk a little bit about you know these are important jobs that you've held over the last few years, and as is the current one. I don't like using the term work-life balance, but how do you? Manage work and personal life to try to keep them both going in a positive direction. Mike: Well, I spend a lot of time with my kids. I really, yeah, my daughter. So I'm here in Ohio, I'm spending time with my father and mother, but my daughter came along, my older daughter came along, she's out of school already. I'm going to go next week pick up my younger daughter in boarding school in Colorado, drive her down to Big Bend, where she has never been, and then, you know, spend time with her over the summer. So I mean, it's really about being deliberate about that and working from anywhere, candidly, in my opinion, helps. There's no expectation. I'm going to the office, I'm going to be there during the business day on Monday through Friday, and what I kind of joke is that I mean, I work a lot, no question about it, but I work around my life as opposed to work, as opposed to planning my life around my work, to planning my life around my work. So I might work, you know, 60 hours a week, but that's not going to be five times 12. That's going to be, you know, kind of eight-ish times seven. I'll work every day a little bit, but I'm certainly going to put my kids first and that's just the way it is. Chris: Well, I can identify with that. I think everyone has to find their own way and each job and role requires different things. In different stages of life require different things. So I think that's what people you know should stay focused on, individually as well as the companies to try to make sure you have good people. You don't want to lose them for those types of reasons. People you don't want to lose them for those types of reasons. Yeah, so, mike, this has been a great conversation. Before we wrap up, I just want to kind of get a little bit more less or a little less serious about things. Tell us what was your first job as a kid? Mike: It'd be funny, you should ask. So I'm back in rural Ohio where I grew up. Right now, at my parents' house, as I mentioned earlier, my first job was was am I allowed to say shit on your podcast? Of course, the texas my first, my first job was shoveling hog shit. Chris: Shoveling hog shit for minimum wage and I was nothing that wants to make you go to college and get a degree than that right. Mike: well, the funny thing is that I wound up raising hogs to pay for college. So it was fine to shovel the hog shit, but I was like, if I was fine to shovel the hog shit, but I was like, if I'm going to shovel the hog shit, I'm going to do it for more than $3.35 an hour. I'm going to do it in exchange for a college education. So that's not exactly that way, but that's a big part of how I kind of got off the farm and moving ahead. Chris: I love that, okay, well, yeah, obviously, as we now know, you're from Ohio, but you spent enough time in Texas for me to ask you this question Do you prefer Tex-Mex or barbecue? Mike: I love Tex-Mex. I would eat Tex-Mex every day of the week All right. And sometimes I do. I do love barbecue, but the thing is that the best barbecue is something I don't want to wait in line for and I don't want to drive a long ways. If I happen to be by La Barbecue or Franklin's a little bit over their great barbecue a little bit overhyped, or if I want a great barbecue, I'll just treat it as a destination thing. I'll go down to Lockhart or something like that, but I can get absolutely terrific Tex-Mex around the corner from my house every day of the week. Chris: Yes, it was one good thing. You know, I think we living in Texas both are abundant right. Mike: But you're right. Chris: The marquee barbecue, you know, is tucked away in some places. All right, so my last thing is if you could do a 30 day sabbatical, where would you go? What would you do? Mike: Well, I got a bunch of customers who have really beautiful beach resorts so I might go to one of those. Chris: You might go break bread with them there. Mike: Break bread with the customers at the most beautiful resorts in the world. That would be one thing I might do. There are a lot of places around the world that I'd love to see, so I've got a Google Maps layer that has little flags. There are probably 800 flags on that map and I add some every week. Places that I like to go around the world. Sometimes they're restaurants that I read about. Sometimes they're beautiful. You know natural features, like you know mountain ranges, the Painted Mountains in the Andes, or you know beautiful lake I've never been to Crater Lake, things like that so what I'd probably do is find 30 days worth of those pins in an area that I can consume within that 30-day period and I'd just go knock it out. Chris: I love that. I like the concept of keeping track of the pins. Yep. Mike: And there's too many on the map that you know I'll be dead and gone before I get to see all of them. But you know, it is kind of a it's a memory bank for things that have caught my interest and that I do want to experience at some point, if I can pull it off. Chris: Love it. Love it Well, mike, thanks so much for taking the time to be a guest on the show. Really enjoyed hearing your story, and the things y'all are doing at Funware sound really fun, exciting and innovative. Mike: Thanks a lot. Special Guest: Mike Snavely.

This week we lull you to sleep with one of the most famous lullabies of all time. What is the real story of Rock a Bye Baby? We also get into the legend of the Old Man of Crater Lake in Oregon. Shout out to the listener who suggested this story! Email us your stories!!! or if you want to sponsor us ;)  Email - ⁠⁠⁠mysteriesmythslegends@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠  ESTY: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/LuxieandLuna?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=826447453⁠⁠⁠  We post pictures of our stories every week on instagram!!!! FOLLOW US ON SOCIALS:  Tiktok: @myths_podcast  Instagram: @myths_podcast  Twitter: @myths_podcast  Taylor's Instagram: @teeelive  Taylor's Twitter: @teeelive  Savannah's Instagram: @kavannahaha  Savannah's Twitter: @sanna_sunshine  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mysteriesmythsandlegends/support

HOUR ONE: They're powerful in the supernatural. Witches, demons and poltergeists fear them because they are not from our world. The Cherokee call them the Raven Mockers. (The Raven Mocker) *** Betsy's Mysterious Flowers *** A girl's younger sister keeps seeing things that don't exist – until the truth is revealed when older sis is moving out. (Secrets Between Sisters) *** It's called the Chronovisor – and it is said the device can look into events in the future as well as the past. Is it true? We may never know – the Vatican, the supposed owners of the device, are refusing to cooperate when questioned. (Does The Vatican Have a Time Machine?) *** An Alaskan hunter claims to have found a boy that had been kidnapped… not by humans or aliens, but by a mysterious creature knows as the ircenrraat. (Abducted By The Ircenrraat) *** It is considered to be one of the most beautiful lakes in the United States. But there are also tales of ghosts, a giant lake monster, unexplained disappearances, and murders. That's only a sample of what you might find at Oregon's Crater Lake. (The Creeps of Crater Lake)  Weirdo family member Candice Cardenas tells of a haunting in her mobile home. (This Ghost Loves Brass) Dreaming About Owls==========HOUR TWO: “Werewolves On The Prowl” *** It all started one night in June 2018. The screams coming from underneath the house. It was so intense, the homeowners simply abandoned the property. I'll even share audio of the screams so you can decide for yourself if it's real. (Screams From The Basement) *** Weirdo family member Elis Helmersson shares a story passed down the generations about a true ghost sighting in her family. (My Great Grandfather Saw a Headless Ghost) *** Have investigators finally solved the strange disappearance of Pan Am's Flight 914? (The Mystery of Flight 914)==========SOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM TONIGHT'S SHOW: “Betsy's Mysterious Flowers” by Brandon Grimes for Paranormality Magazine: https://weirddarkness.com/magazine“The Raven Mocker” by Jeramy Neurign: http://bit.ly/2RUcsSG“Secrets Between Sister” posted at BackpackerVerse: http://bit.ly/2NsJtXj“Does The Vatican Have a Time Machine” posted at Disclose.TV (link no longer valid)“Abducted By The Ircenrraat” originally published in the Anchorage Daily News: (link no longer available)““The Creeps of Crater Lake” by Christopher Schulz: http://bit.ly/2LxmZ4N“This Ghost Loves Brass” submitted by Weirdo family member Candice Cardenas“Dreaming About Owls” by Nicole Whitney for Paranormality Magazine: https://weirddarkness.com/magazine“The Mystery of Flight 914”: JJ Foster (link no longer valid), Hoax or Fact (link no longer valid) and Snopes:http://bit.ly/2RS2voI“Screams From The Basement” written by Robert Harries (link no longer available); captured audio by Alan Tait: http://bit.ly/2RUdyxv“My Great Grandfather Saw a Headless Ghost” by Weirdo family member Elis Helmersson“Werewolves On The Prowl” by John Beale for Paranormality Magazine: https://weirddarkness.com/magazine==========(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for material I use whenever possible. If I have overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it immediately. Some links may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)=========="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46==========WeirdDarkness®, WeirdDarkness© 2024==========To become a Weird Darkness Radio Show affiliate, contact Radio America at affiliates@radioamerica.com, or call 800-807-4703 (press 2 or dial ext 250).==========https://weirddarkness.com/weirddarknessradio-weekend-of-june-08-09-2024/

Oh look, another Nessie knockoff - who could have ever expected Matt would continue his reign of terror upon his cohosts with more brachiosaurus monster movies? This week, it's the 1977 headscratcher CRATER LAKE MONSTER, replete with a total of zero day-to-night transitions and a pair of bumbling alcoholics for both comedic relief AND dramatic impact. While it may be a bit much to say this one has to be seen to be believed, it really is a singularly odd film and therefore perfect for the show. Wanna rent one of the alcoholics' boats with us? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rangers respond to a very tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving scene at a campground in Crater Lake.For more information about the podcast, check out https://crimeoffthegrid.com/Also...We've Got Merch!!   Check us out on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crimeoffthegridpodcast/ and  (1) Facebook SUPPORT THE SHOW: We would love your support so we can keep the episodes coming! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/cotgSources:https://www.craterlakeinstitute.com/crater-lake-new-archives/2005-2/2005-02-4/https://www.craterlakeinstitute.com/crater-lake-new-archives/2005-2/2005-09/https://www.heraldandnews.com/news/top_stories/ranger-shoots-kills-man-at-crater-lake/article_0fda5f38-a620-505c-ac20-7e2562bc4990.htmlhttp://npshistory.com/morningreport/incidents/crla.htmBerkowitz, Paul D. (2022). U.S. Rangers The Law of the Land, The History of Law Enforcement in the Federal Land Management Agencies, The Law of the Land Publishing.

As it stands, Oregon only has one full-fledged national park at Crater Lake. If things had gone differently, we could have had more. On this week's episode of Peak Northwest, we dive back through time to talk about four places around the state that were once considered for national park status – and why they weren't ultimately picked. We also discuss whether or not the National Park Service should reconsider. Do Oregon's beautiful natural landmarks deserve more respect? Or would it be a terrible idea? Here are some highlights from this week's show: A national park at Hells Canyon? Would it be worth it? Why Oregon's tallest mountain seems like a natural pick. An Oregon Coast national park proposal captured the public's imagination. How the National Park Service did Silver Falls dirty. Subscribe to Peak Northwest on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Crater Lake, located amongst old growth forests in Southwestern Oregon, is the stuff of legend. In January of 1975, 19 year old Charles McCullar vanished while on a 60 day solo National Park touring adventure that came to an abrupt halt while traversing snowy terrain surrounding Crater Lake, in Crater Lake National Park. He was out to take photos. Instead, the area took him. >>Please subscribe to Marooned and leave us a review. Find us on tiktok and instagram by searching: @visitmarooned | Thank you, Jack & Aaron. Sources: Ancient Origins Crater Lake National Park: Puzzling Myths and Missing Persons | Ancient Origins The Missing Enigma (YouTube) Crater Lake National Park: Puzzling Myths and Missing Persons | Ancient Origins

Episode 103 Doe: ID 'New York Billy' Clarence Wilson  In 1986, the body of a man was pulled from Crater Lake in Montgomery TX 40 miles North of Houston. It soon became clear to investigators that he was the victim of a homicide having been shot multiple times, and his body weighed down with cinder blocks. Due to the injuries the man had suffered along with the water exposure and decomposition, police were unable to ID the man. He did have a couple tattoos, but it was not enough to help police give him his name back.  Somehow, police came to believe that the dead man went by the street name "New York Billy' but they didn't have much else, and he was laid to rest; buried with little hope of him ever being identified, or his killer caught. Years later as DNA Science evolved, police exhumed the man's body and used genealogy to finally ID him after decades. It turned out that New York Billy was actually Clarence Wilson who would have been 34 years old when he was found. He was living in Texas after a falling out with family back in Modesto, CA. He was last known by his family to be alive in 1985.  Now the police know who New York Billy is, but they don't know who killed him or why. That part of the mystery remains, but police are working hard to provide answers. 'New York Billy' finally has his name back; it's Clarence Wilson, and this is his story To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch

In Oregon, the natural world doesn't just inspire awe -- it gives a touch of the sublime. In the words of one guide, it's "timeless...important for the soul of humankind." And today, we're immersing ourselves in those sublime experiences along the Central Nature Trail in Oregon! Follow along as we snowshoe to the top of Watchman Peak, for the best view over Crater Lake in the park – “like a sapphire embedded in the Earth”, as Aaron describes it. It's exposed, it's hair-raising and it's worth every shaky step.  After that we head to Bend, one of Oregon's premier adventure towns, for some sunset paddling along the Deschutes River surrounded by thousands of swallows, baby ospreys and a surprise visit from Oregon's state animal.  Then it's time to head underground for a spine-chilling 1000-foot descent into a lava tube, formed by a “River of Fire” over 7,000 years ago. We crawl through 18-inch-wide cracks, turn off our head lamps to experience true darkness and marvel at the geologic forces that could create this uniquely beautiful landscape.  We finish at the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs Reservation for some “river therapy” and a fly-fishing lesson from a native guide. We learn about conserving native first foods, experience some river therapy and even catch a fish. Through it all, we're going to explore the wonder and awe of the natural world in all its forms, from mile-high views to quiet moments listening to birdsong on the river.  CONNECT Interested in visiting Oregon and seeing the Central Nature Trail for yourself? Find out more at www.traveloregon.com or follow along on Instagram and Facebook @TravelOregon. CREDITS This episode was produced by Armchair Productions, the audio experts for the travel industry. Find our other shows at armchair-productions.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Max and Megan talk about the mysterious Crater Lake! Email: paranormalpluspod@gmail.com Instagram: paranormalpluspod Thanks to Rowan Ross for the artwork! Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcOa6VLuHiE https://www.craterlakeinstitute.com/index-of-general-cultural-history-books/index-of-books-and-articles-about-native-americans/1-02/indians-08/#:~:text=There%20are%20several%20Klamath%20and,by%20settlers%20or%20amateur%20folklorists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Lake https://thenationsvacation.com/travel_guide/the-spooky-history-of-crater-lake/ https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/oregon/sinister-story-crater-lake-or/ https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2009/10/more-few-ghost-stories-swirl-about-crater-lake-national-park4821 https://www.npca.org/articles/1016-the-old-man-of-the-lake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvIJ4wXnPYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBBVUAsA7JM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnDYqoOw00c https://www.nps.gov/crla/learn/nature/mountmazamageology.htm#:~:text=A%20rapid%20series%20of%20explosive,inward%20collapse%20of%20its%20structure. https://www.nps.gov/crla/planyourvisit/weather.htm#:~:text=Summers%20at%20Crater%20Lake%20are,periods%20of%20rain%20and%20snow. https://pcttrailsidereader.com/post/46921374871/deaths-at-crater-lake-national-park-a-morbid/embed

Keenan Haga is who you might call a serial marathoner. In fact, he has run 311 of them so far. On every continent, including Antarctica. He has run one in every state – three times. Keenan's goal for 2024 is to run 100 marathons, including 13 in 15 days, plus a 100-miler. You'll undoubtedly enjoy hearing about his cool experiences running among polar bears, sea lions, on the race track at Churchill Downs, at Crater Lake, Oregon, and the not-so-great ones like getting a parasite from water at an aid station in Brazil. In the midst of all of this marathoning, Keenan also beat stomach cancer, chemotherapy, the whole works. He credits running with helping him develop the attitude that he could dig in to battle it. But he kept his diagnosis to himself, even to his family, until he met another runner, Karen Kay-Timonier, at the American Heroes Run to whom he opened up and began to share his cancer journey. Keenan had already discovered how much he cherished the running community he's met throughout the world, but now he has also been absorbed into the cancer survivor community in which he can share his experiences. The first things I noticed in our chat is how down-to-Earth Keenan is about his life's extraordinary journey, his positivity, humility, warmth, and his gratitude that he gets to do the things he does. For you distance junkies, Keenan also shares a lot of helpful little tips from a guy who covers an awful lot of miles. I think you'll enjoy this chat a lot.Keenan HagaStravamycoloradolife.netBill Stahlsilly_billy@msn.comFacebook Bill StahlInstagram @stahlor and @coachstahlYouTube We Are Superman Podcast

To look upon Crater Lake in Southern Oregon meant instant Death to anyone according to Klamath legend. Their millennia old mythical origin story of the lakes creation has a unique intersection with modern science.  Strider and Harmony Shred Flappers Comedy Club in Burbank 2/29 7:30pm: https://www.flapperscomedy.com/shows/strider-and-harmony/72262/ patreon.com/striderwilson Sources: Smithsonianmag.com ‘10 Ancient Stories and the Geological Events That May Have Inspired Them' by Sarah Zielenski 2014, Ancientpages.com, Dictionary.com, Native-languages.org, Klamathtribes.org, Everyculture.com, Britannica.com

The National Parks Service is planning to terminate its contract with Aramark, the company that manages lodging, food and other services at Crater Lake under the name Crater Lake Hospitality. The announcement comes after the company received the lowest possible annual rating from the park service last year. Since Aramark took over in 2018, annual reports have documented fuel leaks, sewer overflows, incomplete maintenance projects, food safety issues and more in the park. Unsafe and rodent-infested employee housing has also been a major concern.  Roman Battaglia has been covering this issue as a reporter for Jefferson Public Radio. He joins us with more details on what the reports show and what’s next for the park.

BONUS EPISODES: https://www.Patreon.com/chubbybehemoth   This week the boys are joined by Jordan Doll! Sam tells the boys how to get to VR heaven. Jordan reveals the Jersey Mikes - DeVito connection, his modes of transportation, and paying drivers. Sam plans to leave behind some papers. Coach took as much as it gave. Nathan is the hero the city deserves, let him fry whatever he wants. Sam has some taste test relationship envy. Despite his best efforts Jordan DOES talk a little about entities. The boys conjured The Body Building Half Man of Crater Lake.    Nathan Lund and Sam Tallent are Chubby Behemoth   Mutiny Coffee: mutinyonmainstreet@gmail.com

S9:E9 – When we checked into Mazama Campground at Crater Lake National Park, we were caught off guard when we realized that our RV site didn't have hookups…at all. How could we have forgotten?! Fortunately, we had a heck of a cliffside view – perhaps the best location in all of Crater Lake. In addition to the stark beauty of the lake, we enjoyed a day trip to Bend, Oregon and a drive through Cascade Lakes. Meanwhile, the mice have struck again! But maybe this time we'll get them once and for all… For more context, check out the video that accompanies this podcast on YouTube (https://youtu.be/-2p6NhIJ-wk) – “Sunrise on Crake Lake (+ a Day Trip to Bend, OR).” Send us your feedback and thoughts via email at travelfomopodcast@gmail.com. Have your own travel story? Attach a voice memo to your email, and you could hear your own voice in a future episode of the podcast. ____ Travel FOMO is hosted by a husband and wife duo, Jamin and Hilarie Houghton. Learn more about them at www.travelfomopodcast.com. Subscribe to Travel FOMO in two different ways: (1) Watch their adventures on YouTube and (2) Follow audibly from wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow Travel FOMO on social media: Instagram: www.instagram.com/travelfomopodcast Facebook: www.facebook.com/travelfomopodcast TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@travelfomopodcast YouTube: www.youtube.com/@travelfomopodcast

Dive into the mysteries of Crater Lake with hosts Shea & Jody. Explore indigenous tales, and the mysteries that lie below the blue waters in this captivating PNW episode. https://linktr.ee/rainydayrabbitholespodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rainy-day-rabbit-holes/message

There are all kinds of ways to "winter" in the West over the coming months, including some fantastic adventures in Yosemite National Park. In this episode, Brad and Holly discuss some of the season's best activities in Yosemite, home to California's first ski resort, the old-school and budget-friendly Badger Pass. There's also snowshoeing to panoramic Dewey Point, outdoor ice skating under a huge view of Half Dome (with a firepit and s'mores!), and lots more. Later in the pod they're joined by Lisa Cesaro from Aramark Destinations, discussing lakeview adventures in South Lake Tahoe, snowmobile safaris in Jackson, Wyoming, and the beauty of Yellowstone and Crater Lake national parks. Yodel for Yosemite, yodel for the West's best winter adventures! Show Notes:Yosemite's Winter WondersNation's Vacation Ideas

Episode Summary This time on This Month in the Apocalypse, Brooke and Inmn talk about revenge, strikes, bad decisions about water, the economy, interesting victories around water, and funny things about tanks. Host Info Brooke can be found on Twitter or Mastodon @ogemakweBrooke. Inmn can be found on Instagram @shadowtail.artificery. Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Transcript Live Like the World is Dying: This Month in the Apocalypse: October **Brooke ** 00:14 Hello and welcome to Live Like the World is Dying, your podcast for what feels like the end times. This is your monthly installment of This Month in the Apocalypse, where we talk about the shitty news from around the world. **Inmn ** 00:28 But also some cool stuff. and some funny stuff. **Brooke ** 00:32 And some funny stuff. I am one of your hosts today, Brooke, and with me is.... **Inmn ** 00:40 I'm Inmn and my brain is in a horrifying state today, which only comes from researching heavily about, unfortunately, mostly bad things that happened but also some cool things that happened in the last month. **Brooke ** 00:58 Alright, let's talk about those. But first, let's give a shout out to one of the other podcasts on the Channel Zero Network of anarchist podcasts to which we also belong. But here's some words from some of our friends. Doot doot doo duh doo doo dooo. [Singing the sounds like a simple melody] **Brooke ** 01:54 And we're back. Welcome back. So many fun things to talk about. I'm sorry you've also had to spend the morning reviewing all sorts of terrible events in the world. **Inmn ** 02:30 You know, I ran into a friend last night and they made a joke, they were like, "Oh, what have you been up to?" And I was like, "Oh, I dunno, mostly just work, you know, doing podcasts and things." And they're like, "Oh, yeah, you've you've really like professionalized doom scrolling. [Both laughing] **Brooke ** 02:54 Yeah, that sounds about right. Sounds about right. **Inmn ** 02:59 Yeah, I don't know if I felt good about that or not, but.... **Brooke ** 03:04 It's complicated, right? Like, I don't want that to be my job. But also, I guess it's nice that somebody does it. **Inmn ** 03:11 Yeah. And I just want to shout out for like a lot of people who have sent us messages fairly recently about enjoying these segments, which I think we were on the fence about them for a little while, I think, about whether we liked them or whether they felt useful or whether they just like inspired dread and despair and a lot of.... Thanks everyone who's reached out to be like, "No, no, I really like these segments, and they do the opposite of despair." So thank you, everyone. **Brooke ** 03:46 Yeah, I've got something that's the opposite of despair. **Inmn ** 03:49 Oh, really? What is the opposite of despair? **Brooke ** 03:53 Revenge travel. **Inmn ** 03:55 Oh? **Brooke ** 03:56 Do you know what this is? **Inmn ** 03:58 No, I have no idea what you're... **Brooke ** 04:00 Okay. So if I say the phrase to you, revenge travel, what do you assume? Like what would you guess that I'm talking about? **Inmn ** 04:08 Um, I think what my assumption is--I feel like it is related to remote work. Is it related to remote work? **Brooke ** 04:18 No, it's not. **Inmn ** 04:20 Okay. I have no idea what it is then. **Brooke ** 04:23 Okay. I saw it in the headline. And then of course, it was wonderful clickbait and I had to click on it. And I assumed it meant traveling to get revenge on somebody. Either like taking a trip to spite them or like, going somewhere to exact revenge. I don't know. Like, I've never heard this phrase before. But apparently, it's travel that people have done since covid because they weren't able to travel during the worst of the pandemic. **Inmn ** 04:23 Okay, I see. **Brooke ** 04:27 I know, it's way less exciting. And like the article that I read about it mentioned revenge travel multiple times but it never specifically explains it. I had to like glean that from the rest of the text of the article. So it's not the fun thing that you think it is but maybe we should make it a fun thing. Revenge travel. **Inmn ** 05:15 Oh, okay, so now that you say that, the thing that it reminds me of is--which I'm totally guilty of--have you heard of bedtime revenge procrastination? I think that's what it's called. **Brooke ** 05:31 I can guess what you mean, but I have not heard of it. **Inmn ** 05:36 Bedtime revenge procrastination is when you stay up late even though you have to wake up very early because.... It's due to a sense of lack of control over the autonomy of your time. It's called bedtime revenge, meaning that you're revenging yourself upon time, but the cost is still your time and energy because, you know, you get less sleep. **Brooke ** 06:08 I psychologically understand that, you know, resting control thing, but at the same time I'm a person who really needs my full night of sleep consistently or else I quickly deteriorate and also become a horrible human being so I also can't imagine doing that to myself. Because that sounds awful. **Inmn ** 06:27 Yeah, I did it to myself for like the entirety of high school because I had an absolutely unreasonable schedule. Like, I got on average five to four hours of sleep a night for like the entirety of highschool. **Brooke ** 06:46 Wow, I feel bad for young Inmn. **Inmn ** 06:49 Me too. **Brooke ** 06:50 Sorry, you did that to yourself. Okay, well let me finish saying this about revenge travel. It's nothing major, mostly the headline's hilarious and the phrase. But there was a huge boom in travel and 2022 as covid restrictions eased and people were able to travel again. So, they were taking their, I guess, revenge against covid, maybe, is what they were taking revenge on? Or just revenge on not being able to travel. Anyway. And that continued to get into 2023. But the boom seems to have slowed and we're kind of back to more normal pre pandemic levels, especially places that do surveys of consumer demand to figure out, you know, people's intentions to travel and their plans for it. And people are sort of back to normal, i.e. pre pandemic levels of intention to travel, so. **Inmn ** 07:39 Okay, golly, can I do a little mini rant about that? I'm replacing Margaret's rants today. **Brooke ** 07:50 Okay, good. What would this episode be without a rant or two? **Inmn ** 07:57 It's just like the.... I don't know, like I remember after, you know, like the summer in the northern hemisphere after mass vaccination occurred and people feeling like they could move around, travel, and do a lot more in what felt like a safer way to do that. And I don't think--this isn't targeted revenge travel as much as it's targeted at a lot of people's mentalities throughout COVID were like being upset at like things the government or being upset at like society for making them like be cooped up in their houses or whatever, or making them have these like lower modes of travel. And it felt really weird to hear it from a lot of people, like people who were like, really angry about it. And it's like, I get it, it was hard, and it sucked for a lot of people but like, I don't know.... I remember when lock down started that I was like--you know, I'm never thrilled for a government imposed lockdown--but what I was thrilled for, I was like, people just have the chance to like--or, you know, some people--just have the chance to chill a little bit and have some space from their lives. But like, I'm not upset that we were doing the right thing by slowing down. You know? **Brooke ** 09:39 I feel like in that first couple of weeks too, you know, there was at least a couple of weeks that pretty much everyone stopped doing everything and we all got to slow down for a minute. And there was something special in that time before all of the, you know, rage and conflict and conspiracies and everything blew up. But there was a brief moment, I think, for pretty much everyone. Maybe a little bit horrible but also special. **Inmn ** 10:00 Yeah. And, you know, obviously it's way more complicated than that, but I'm like, I'm never upset that like, yeah, it was a hard year and a half and it continues to be really hard for so many people and I'm thrilled to have been doing the right thing. **Brooke ** 10:25 Yeah, for sure. No, I hear you. **Inmn ** 10:28 Anyways, you know, who doesn't do the right thing? **Brooke ** 10:32 Oh, boy. Do you want a list? Should I? Or should I just do a whole rant here on? Maybe you should just tell me. There's too many options. **Inmn ** 10:43 Okay, so, hypothetical situation, you're faced with a problem. So here in Arizona, **Brooke ** 10:51 Who you gonna call? **Inmn ** 10:55 Here in Arizona, there are weirdly not that many regulations around groundwater usage and stuff. **Brooke ** 11:04 That's wild to me. **Inmn ** 11:05 It really is wild. But, if you lived in a town that had halted new construction, new development, but you really wanted to build a mega city, what would you do? **Brooke ** 11:24 Oh god, I'm a billionaire, aren't I? Aren't I? I'm a billionaire in this scenario. **Inmn ** 11:30 In this scenario, no, you are actually not a billionaire. Although, there's a weirdly similar thing happening with a billionaire. **Brooke ** 11:39 Okay, well, then I would do the right thing if I'm not corrupted by having way too much money. **Inmn ** 11:45 Okay, would you but would you consider building a 1000 mile pipeline to the Missouri River? **Brooke ** 11:53 Oh, fuck. No, because? No, no. [Laughing] **Inmn ** 12:00 Or would you... **Brooke ** 12:01 Water is sacred. It should not be forced to travel like that. That's wrong. **Inmn ** 12:08 Okay, so your other alternative is to build a 200 mile pipeline? **Brooke ** 12:13 Nope. **Inmn ** 12:14 To the Gulf of California. **Brooke ** 12:16 Nope. It's also not.... The water's not supposed to travel that far. We go to the water. The water is not supposed to be made to come to us. That's how it works. **Inmn ** 12:28 I'm waiting for a Qanon person to comment, What about rivers?" [An uncomfortable silence].... Anyways, so the town is... **Brooke ** 12:31 I'm just going to sigh in anger and sadness for a while. I'm gonna mute myself and just sigh for an hour while you explain. [Audibly sighs] **Inmn ** 12:50 Okay, so this is where normally a rant about the city of Phoenix would occur. But this is a rant about a city that is literally adjacent to Phoenix, which some would argue is actually a part of Phoenix, but is really hell bent on not being a part of Phoenix because they want to be their own mega city. And this is the city of Buckeye, Arizona. And Buckeye, it's basically a suburb of Phoenix and they hope.... Their population's like, I think it's like 170,000 right now. And they aspire to grow the population to over 1.5 million, which is about what the population of Phoenix is. **Brooke ** 13:43 I was gonna say, that's a lot of people. **Inmn ** 13:47 Yeah. Yeah. And it seems to be just because the local politicians and city council, or whatever, want to be like big deals. Like they just want... **Brooke ** 14:01 I'm sorry, if your city is called Buckeye, I think there's not hope for you. You need to start by rebranding the name of your city if you want just a chance in hell. But Buckeye, Arizona, I think is never going to be No, just the name, just that's it. It falls flat on its face on the name. **Inmn ** 14:20 Yeah, but they, for some reason, want to grow their city. I think it seems to be wrapped up in like those local politicians wanting to be big deals. **Brooke ** 14:29 Capitalism and ego. **Inmn ** 14:31 Yeah, but they can't. They're.... So the state has kind of halted construction, like new construction, or new development, in those areas because the groundwater use has hit a limit. And this comes after some developments in Phoenix were halted because of a lack of water security. So, there's very little regulation about groundwater in Arizona, but there is this thing where water has to be guaranteed for 100 years in order to build a new house, for example. So like if a new housing development is going up then water has to be guaranteed to be at that house for 100 years. **Brooke ** 15:17 That sounds great, but I have a lot of follow up questions for Phoenix and Arizona and how that actually maths out. But do go on. **Inmn ** 15:24 Yeah, yeah. I mean, how it maths out is that, you know, Phoenix heavily relies on the Colorado River for water usage. And the city of Phoenix--which to put in proportion to what the city of Buckeye is aspiring to do--is the city of Phoenix uses about 2 billion gallons of water a day. Like a new fun thing--because the more that we talk about water on the show, the more I'm like trying to visualize what water looks like--what do you think 2 billion gallons of water looks like? **Brooke ** 15:25 I'm trying to imagine some body of water that I am familiar with in order to conceptualize that and I'm wondering how big Crater Lake is because that's maybe.... Wait, wait, well, wait while I inefficiently Google things. Okay, that's way too much water. Okay. Tell me. I can't. **Inmn ** 16:37 It is one inch on Lake Mead. One inch of water is 2 billion gallons of water. **Brooke ** 16:43 Okay, I don't have a good reference for how big Lake Mead is but I hear you. **Inmn ** 16:47 Yeah, you know, that lake that everyone references when we're talking about water scarcity in the West is the constant depletion of Lake Mead. It's weird how that has become the gauge, it's like our gauge for fear and disparity is what the water levels in Lake Mead are. But do you want to know a fun thing about Lake Mead? **Brooke ** 17:13 I do. **Inmn ** 17:14 Um, Lake Mead, the water has.... There was like this crazy low point in 2022. And this is actually a fun thing, but the lake has risen 23 feet since that low point in 2022. **Brooke ** 17:29 I mean that's normal, right, because of the season that we're in? **Inmn ** 17:33 Yeah, yeah. And after like, you know, a recent pretty dry spell this summer, in August, due to record snowfall, I guess the previous winter, the lake rose 13 inches in seven days. Which, is like, you know, 27 billion gallons of water sounds like a lot. **Brooke ** 17:58 Yeah, that sounds a lot. Like a lot, a lot. **Inmn ** 18:03 But to like put that.... 27 billion. **Brooke ** 18:07 Like a foot and stuff? No, two billion is one inch? Is that right? **Inmn ** 18:13 Yeah, two billion's one inch. **Brooke ** 18:14 And 13 inches, a foot. A footish? **Inmn ** 18:17 Yeah, right. A footish. Which is only like seven days of water for the city of Phoenix. **Brooke ** 18:24 [Laughing] Okay, I'm like a foot of water in the lake is a lot. And then yeah, you say.... Just kidding! Do go on. **Inmn ** 18:38 No, yeah. Sorry. The city of Buckeye story is jumping all over the place. But in one of the more weird moves that they're considering is they want to build a pipeline from Puerto Penasco in Mexico to Phoenix, which it's about a 200 mile pipeline that would be built. And it would go right through the Organ Pipe National Cactus Monument. **Brooke ** 19:12 No big deal. National monuments, no big deal. **Inmn ** 19:20 But this is being heavily pushed for not just by the city of Buckeye but by a contractor company called IDE, which is an Israeli company, who thinks it's a really great idea to build this 200 mile pipeline between Puerto Penasco and the city of Buckeye. And it's part of this like growing, seemingly growing, trend of instead of like, instead of dealing with water resources on a, you know, a local level, or any kind of resource, on a local level, we're in this age of industrialization of like, "Well, they have this other resource 1000 miles away or whatever, what if we move to that resource so that we can sustain this absolutely unreasonable population growth in...." And not like a natural population growth. Like the city of Buckeye is like, "We want to grow the population." This is not what the city's naturally doing, you know? **Brooke ** 20:29 So they're bringing in water to support and.... You know, sorry, I want to go off on a whole side tangent because I have many questions about Buckeye, but I'm going to stop and we can talk about it another time. Sorry, I'm just so curious. **Inmn ** 20:44 But yeah, so some of the bigger problems with the pipeline are that it would.... They don't have a plan for dealing with...the desalination plants, they don't have a plan for dealing with the salty material that they remove from the water, except to dump it back into the Gulf of California. **Brooke ** 21:09 Oh, my God. **Inmn ** 21:11 You know, people in Mexico are not stoked about this because it will destroy ecological centers in the Gulf of California. Oh, okay. I remember the other bit. So IDE, the Israeli company that's building...who wants to build the pipeline, they also build desalination plants in Gaza. **Brooke ** 21:32 And that's where the money is. **Inmn ** 21:38 And yeah, it's just...it's a very strange idea. They want to put it through the Organ Pipe National Monument, which, like, there's a lot of pushback because that's a national monument. It's this federally protected wildlife area. And there's a lot of pushback from an environmental perspective. Do you know what else is in the Organ Pipe National Monument? **Brooke ** 22:05 Besides the cacti? **Inmn ** 22:07 Yeah. **Brooke ** 22:08 Let's see. Are there birds? Flowers? **Inmn ** 22:10 What is a great thing to have near a federally protected wildlife area? **Brooke ** 22:18 Oh, wildlife that needs special protection? **Inmn ** 22:22 A bombing range. **Brooke ** 22:23 Oh, shit! I see. You were being sarcastic. Here, silly me. I was trying to guess the real answer. **Inmn ** 22:35 Yeah, It is a bombing range. **Brooke ** 22:38 Of course. Of course it is. Yes. That's what Arizona's for is blowing shit up. **Inmn ** 22:44 Yeah, blowing shit up. And.... **Brooke ** 22:49 I just saw Oppenheimer, sorry. **Inmn ** 22:51 Okay. It only gets worse because the other thing that goes on in the Organ National Monument is that it's like a heavily trafficked corridor for migration between the US and Mexico for, you know, for animals and for people. And it is also one of the most deadly corridors along the US Mexico border for undocumented migrants coming from Mexico, South America, Central America, like up through Mexico and the US Mexico border. And so it represents this strange thing where the government, or people, or like whoever, they have large problems with things like a pipeline going through somewhere, but they have--and Organ Pipe National Monument as like an agency--has no problem with ramping border militarization or a bombing range that's like right next door. So. **Brooke ** 24:00 Man, I will never make sense of people's priorities. **Inmn ** 24:05 Anyways, that is a very long rant on city of Buckeye, **Brooke ** 24:10 That's more attention than Buckeye deserves, ever. But here we are. **Inmn ** 24:17 What else is happening in the southwest? There's some stuff that happened in Vegas. **Brooke ** 24:23 That's right. There's some looming...there's a looming strike in the hospitality industry in Vegas. I don't know how well known this is amongst people but Vegas has a very strong union for various hospitality workers. It might be multiple unions. Forgive me for not knowing exactly. But your housekeeping workers, your bartenders, your food servers, all of those service industries that are so central to the hospitality industry, which is central to the economy of Vegas, and a lot of Nevada, have very strong unions there that do a great job representing them and getting them fair wages and those kinds of things. So one of the major contracts expired in June of this year, 2023, so negotiations for new contracts started back in April. They did not reach an agreement in June. So they extended the contract deadline to September and that has now expired, and they are still negotiating. But the union has voted to authorize a strike if necessary. The union is asking for higher wages, more safety protections, and stronger recall rights, meaning rights to return to their work. So on the issue of safety for the union's, abuse of hospitality workers is on the rise in the US and particularly in Vegas. And I like to think that all of our listeners are the kind of folks who have had a service industry job at some point in their lives and would never ever throw something at a housekeeper. **Inmn ** 26:10 Oh, God. **Brooke ** 26:11 But, you know, just in case it needs to be said, If your room is really dirty and you're upset about it, don't throw things at the housekeeper who's just trying to clean. It's not...it's not a great way to go. **Inmn ** 26:23 Yeah, don't do that. **Brooke ** 26:27 Yeah, there's increasing reports of housekeepers getting yelled at, having things thrown at them, being threatened with abuse. Because there are--it's a complicated thing--so this also ties into the recall rights that they're asking for. Hotel workers, hospitality workers, saw significant decline in the number of people doing those jobs during the pandemic, partly because there was significantly less travel and then also restrictions on how many people you could book on a floor or in a hotel, or etc, etc, etc. So, hotels, you know, laid off a lot of their workers. And then, like many other places, have had a hard time rehiring. So they're not back up to the staffing levels that they used to be. So there's fewer people spread around, you know, a wider workload. And then part of that, the reason for the lack of rehiring, was because they didn't have recall rights. So, there was no reason for people to assume that they would be able to go back to their jobs or get their jobs back. So they, you know, left...stayed or left the industry or what have you. So, there's fewer workers to do the work, especially cleaning work. And then also, consumers are demanding less frequent cleanings for the most part in their hotel rooms. I don't know about you, when you travel, or the last time you went to a hotel, I am the kind of person that does not want housekeeping at all during my stay, whether it's one day or five days. I put out my Do Not Disturb sign. And I guess that's true of about 40% of hotel guests, they choose not to have housekeeping. The downside of that is that when housekeeping does come in after someone's left, the rooms are usually messier than they would be if they had a daily cleaning so housekeeping asked to do a deeper clean and they don't necessarily have--because they're short staffed, and it's a deeper play than they would plan for--they don't have the time to really turn over the room as thoroughly as they should. That difficult contrast between trying to get all the rooms at least a little bit versus doing a few rooms and doing them well and then not having some rooms. Yeah. So that's the other thing, if you're a person like me out there in the world and and you're staying at a hotel and you don't like to have housekeeping, do try and do them the kindness of whatever bits of cleanup you can on the way out so it's faster for them to turn over the room. Anyway, so they are continuing negotiations, but the union has...the union workers have authorized a strike or intermittent work stoppages if needed, and, you know, we fully support them doing that if that's what they need to do. Yeah, yeah, they would not be the only ones that have done that even in the last year or even super recently. Kaiser Permanente, you may have heard about this, had a three day walkout at all of their locations, appointments canceled. That kind of thing. So the Kaiser Permanente Health care workers went on strike and they've reached a tentative deal. And also somewhat recently, but a little bit longer ago, was the Writer's Union in Hollywood went on strike. And they were on strike for quite a bit. But they are back to work, having gotten a lot of what they wanted. The United Auto Workers Union is in negotiations for contracts with the major....sorry, with the major car manufacturers in the US. They have had some work stoppages throughout the negotiation process and may have a full stoppage or full strike at some point as well. So, yeah, lots of worker strikes going on, or have gone on and have been successful, in recent times and we support those workers, not only in their right to strike, but also in treating them well when we are traveling. And encouraging others to do the same. **Inmn ** 31:03 This kind of relates to my mini rant earlier about, like, you know, things shutting down or being less available, which is like, one of the really cool things that I saw out of the Writers' Guild strike was people whose like, you know,--whether it was talk show hosts, or like, whoever, who were like, during the strike, and then like, after the strike, are like, "Yeah, it was hard to not do the show for however long, but like, what is far worse and much harder, is that these very simple demands were not met before the strike or on day one of the strike." And like, I don't know, just like...it's like shifting this mentality from like, I'm sad that the new season of Stranger Things is on hiatus with that these strikes are very important and these people's lives matter and them getting the things that make them able to continue doing their work and surviving is like, incredibly important. And that's more important than my desire to see a fucking TV show, you know? **Brooke ** 32:24 Yeah, and it was really great to see, you know, a lot of actors and so forth, who weren't necessarily striking but were standing in support of, you know, their fellow Hollywood workers going on strike and getting their demands met. It was really cool. **Inmn ** 32:41 Yeah. Is there some other stuff that got shut down recently? **Brooke ** 32:46 No, the government talked about it, like they do. **Inmn ** 32:51 They always talk about it. **Brooke ** 32:54 Yeah, and we talked about this last month, and we said, hey, if it happens, we will follow up and talk more. At the last minute a continuing resolution was passed right before the deadline of when the government would have shut down. And I'm being overdramatic, because it's fucking every single time, basically, with very few exceptions. The downside of the continuing resolution form of passing a budget is that it's basically like buying them another 30 days, or however long the continuing resolution was for. So they still haven't passed a budget. They've just agreed to continue operating based on the old budget for a limited period of time. And I think their next deadline, I want to say, is mid November or so. The whole situation is complicated a little bit by the fact that they outed...the Republicans outed their speaker of the house. They don't have one. But they did pass this continuing resolution without having a speaker. So it is possible, it's just that they're dealing with the other chaos of trying to elect a new speaker and they have, at least, their fourth person that they put up for a vote, is up for vote. So they're focusing on that a lot rather than dealing with the budget issues they need to deal with. So I still, you know, I continue to say the same thing that I have said about this, which is that the government shutdown is very unlikely. If it does, it's likely very short. And even if it is very short, it probably won't affect very much because they have plans and programs set up to automate a lot of their stuff for at least a short period of time. It's only a major problem if there's a longer term shutdown like we saw back in 2019, which is very unlikely. And if it happens, we'll talk about it. **Inmn ** 34:48 Yay, talking about stuff. **Brooke ** 34:52 So that's about them not shutting down. I hear you have some good news, though, that we can talk about. **Inmn ** 35:00 I do have some good news. But I kind of have like a question about the economy for you while we're like on the subject, **Brooke ** 35:11 Give it to me, baby, you know I love talking about economics. **Inmn ** 35:14 I read this article this week about this growing trend, which is not surprising to me because it's like seeing...because it's something that a lot of us are just seeing in the world, but--or experiencing ourselves, depending on where you live. But there seems to be this big growing trend in large cities, especially like, you know, the Bay area where there's been a huge, huge housing crisis for a very long time, which is driven by the tech industry being horrifying. Um, but I read this article recently talking about this thing where it has reached such a crisis that cities like Santa Barbara, and like some cities in Oregon, have opened up parking lots that are there for people who live in their cars. And it's catering to like a very specific like demographic of people, which is like people who make too much money to apply for government assistance, like housing assistance, food assistance, anything like that, or even Medicaid or Medicare--I always forget which is which--but they do not make enough money to afford rent. And it's this growing thing in the economy where like, like.... And these are people who make like $72,000 a year at government or state jobs who can no longer afford to live somewhere. And so they have to live in their car. And that is, yeah.... That's less of a question and more of a what's going on? What's going on? **Brooke ** 37:20 Yeah, that level of problem where someone is making that much and still can't afford is definitely more specific to larger cities and places where housing costs are significantly higher. And housing is expensive everywhere right now. It's out of control. But you do have some places like the Bay Area, LA, parts of Seattle, where it is just ridiculously inflated. So yeah, making $70,000 a year is definitely way too much money to be getting any kind of assistance. You're well above the poverty line, even in your allegedly high income area, but it's nowhere near enough to afford a housing payment for how much houses cost right now. And I think there's always been some amount of people that live in that strange margin place of above the poverty line, can get little or no assistance but below what it takes to afford where they're living. That's not an entirely new phenomenon. But it's definitely much larger than it used to be. You know, because we've seen this astronomical increase in the house of pricing...in the price of housing. And inflation, overall, has increased the price of a lot of other things as well making it harder to afford all aspects of life and living. **Inmn ** 38:47 Yeah, and, you know, it's like this.... It's the thing where it's horrible to me that it's something that people are paying attention to now that it's something that is affecting middle class people. Where it's like this, you know, this has been a lot of people's like realities for, you know, decades and decades, is living in this nebulous zone of like, for whatever reasons, not qualifying for government assistance or for qualifying for government assistance but that assistance not being enough to actually change anyone's life or get them housing or things like that. And that's more what interested me about the article, was like less than that this is like a newer growing thing and more that it's something that is starting to shift up the wage scales and stuff, from something that has always affected lower income people and is now starting to affect people who like would have not considered themselves low income before. **Brooke ** 40:01 Yeah, the poverty line, what the government defines as being, you know, what they call the poverty line and then they use that to measure, you know, how far above or below it you are and then different services say you qualify based on your income relative to that position, that poverty line does not change rapidly. The government does not make big changes to that. They make very small changes to that. But meanwhile, we've seen in the last few years very rapid changes to the cost of living. And it costs so much more for so many basic things right now but that has not been accurately reflected in a higher poverty line, particularly with houses. **Inmn ** 40:42 And wages. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like my hope for articles like this are more hoping that it like increases the amount of empathy and compassion that like more people have for other houseless populations. Which it sucks that it takes.... It sucks that that's what it takes for people to have empathy, but we live in a hell world. **Brooke ** 41:18 Yeah, we do. **Inmn ** 41:19 But you know, sometimes in this hell world that we live in, cool things can happen too. **Brooke ** 41:27 Are there wins sometimes? **Inmn ** 41:28 There are wins sometimes. **Brooke ** 41:31 Like union workers winning and also...other things winning. What are they? Give me hope. **Inmn ** 41:36 Hope. So this was a fun thing that I came across this month. And this has been less like this month and more like a thing that's been happening for over two years. So in 2021, in O'ahu, in Hawaii, there was a fuel leak from, you know, naval bases. **Brooke ** 42:02 Wait, I was there in 2021. **Inmn ** 42:05 Oh, yeah. Well, depending on where you were 93,000 people had jet fuel laced water introduced into their homes and their water drinking supplies. **Brooke ** 42:22 I feel like I would have known that when I was on my little vacation there, if that was when I was there. But damn. **Inmn ** 42:28 Yeah, the symptoms for ingesting it were people having migraines and nausea and vomiting. And while for a lot of people, those were short term symptoms, for like huge amounts of the people who were affected by it, a year and a half to two years later people are still experiencing symptoms and complications from having ingested jet fuel laced water. And some of those symptoms include severe anxiety and depression. **Brooke ** 43:08 Maybe I did ingest some. Wait, I already had those symptoms, but they're worse. Okay, go on. **Inmn ** 43:14 Yeah. And this sounds like it's grim, but there was recently a victory, which is that this initiative led by, I think it was like the Sierra Club and O'ahu Water Protectors have been waging this battle against the US military to drain these fuel reservoirs, which it's like miles of tunnels underneath O'ahu that are like filled with jet fuel, you know? So it's like the possibility of leaks are just astronomical. Like, it's so easy for it to...for that shit to leak. **Brooke ** 43:55 I'm gonna guess they were rapidly built in World War II or something like that as well. **Inmn ** 43:59 Yes, they are World War II era jet fuel tanks. That after like an extreme period of inactivity are finally being drained. And this this was a quotation from someone from the O'ahu Water Protectors, who said, "We got here not because the US Navy woke up one day and said, 'Oh, we're gonna do the right thing,' we got here because of the collective voices of the people who are calling for a shutdown." Which is like, you know, time and time again, the thing that we find in these situations, is like if there's an environmental catastrophe that is also a human catastrophe, it's like...it's not...the government isn't like, "That's bad. We should do something." It takes like it takes thousands of people for two years like screaming and yelling at people and fighting for a change. And this is like...you might think too, that people exposed to jet fuel laced water who are having like pretty severe reactions to those things, that the local government might offer--or the US military--might offer some kind of help with that immediately, you know? **Brooke ** 45:27 No, come on now. **Inmn ** 45:29 It took a year and a half for the Navy to set up a clinic to treat people who had been exposed to these chemicals. And, you know, it is 100 million gallons of petroleum. **Brooke ** 45:47 Holy shit, **Inmn ** 45:50 That is sitting in these tanks. That wasn't the size of the leak, but like.... And like, yeah, two years later residents are having their water in their houses tested. Because a lot of people's houses weren't flushed, the system wasn't flushed. It was never really dealt with. And so like two years later there's these low but persistent traces of these chemicals in people's water. But hopefully, that is.... At least the larger threat of another leak is hopefully not going to happen because of this victory from indigenous water protectors in O'ahu to like, get the fuel tanks drained. And unfortunately, you know, they're not just like.... I'm happy for O'ahu, but they're just moving the fuel to Singapore, the Philippines, and San Diego. So. **Brooke ** 46:51 So, yeah, it's just gonna spill somewhere else. I mean, what do you do though? Is there a safe way to dispose of it? Probably not. Use it up, create more carbon emissions? I mean, yeah, lose-lose. Lose, lose, lose. Pour it down a volcano? What could go wrong? Pour jet fuel into a volcano, I'm sure that'll be fine. I do. I just want to say I never trust the federal government when it comes to drinking water and people. I just don't. That's one of those important things that we, you know, as we live like the world is dying here, that we all have to prepare for and plan for on our own and collectively. Do not ever trust the government to keep your water supply safe and consistent. It's just not going to happen. **Inmn ** 47:47 Nope. Yeah, we protect us. It turns out. **Brooke ** 47:53 Turns out. Alright, other water things: El Nino. So this is funny to me--I'll tell the shortest version of the story that I possibly can--when I was growing up, there were heavy rains in 1996, in the town that I--well, not just the town but this whole occupied Kalapuya territory that I live in, suffered from extreme rainfall. It's the Pacific Northwest, so we have a lot of rain anyway, so when I tell you there was extreme rainfall, that tells you something about how much rain there was. And lots of flooding, lots of water damage. There was a point when it rained for, I don't know, like, I think it was 16 days straight or something like that. Just...anyway. And it was ascribed to El Nino weather events. And so for most of my life until like the last few years, you say El Nino and I think lots of rain. That's all I understood about the El Nino weather events. But we've been talking a lot about it this year because globally, we have been in one since the springtime. And it actually has to do with water temperatures in the Pacific and airflow and stuff. And actually has very diverse effects on weather patterns around the world, really, especially right now in North America and parts of Europe, too. So we may be heading into a winter that is colder for some and warmer for others. And it was really funny in reading the reports on this that came out from NOAA and then were disseminated by others with input from this or that meteorologists, climatologists, whatever, about what was going on. And it's...you look at the maps and it's like, "Oh, the northern US is going to be much warmer or it's going to be slightly warmer. It's going to be in the Northeast. No, it's going to be the Northwest. The southern US is going to be colder in the southeast. No, in the southwest. No, actually it's going to be close to average. So all that I'm really getting from any of this as I read multiple sources is that we really don't quite know what the winter is gonna be like. No one is being consistent. And we're also in the middle of...we still have a polar vortex that's pushing cold air down from the Arctic. But also average temperatures are on the rise globally because of climate change. And this year, we're higher than average for much of the year. So all of that is to say, who knows what winter weather is going to do? Whatever winter weather prediction you've read, it might come true. But there's another one out there that will say the opposite thing. And, you know, who knows? **Inmn ** 50:36 Golly, yeah, **Brooke ** 50:39 Just funny things. So many headlines about it. And then they're all being totally contradictory. Yeah. Except that possibly, the central so-called United States of America--not like what we call the central US but if you literally draw a swath through the middle of the country--that seems to be consistently predicted to have roughly normal winter temperatures. So Kansas...Kansas, everything is probably going to be normal for you and maybe Colorado too. I don't know about the rest of us. **Inmn ** 51:14 Hell yeah. I'm excited. **Brooke ** 51:17 Isn't that great? **Inmn ** 51:18 It is. To kind of get towards the end of the episode, I did remember this other thing that I wanted to tie in, which was we talked a little bit about like border militarization and like how that relates to this water pipeline, and this is in no way a new thing but like just to build this larger linkage. So, I, you know, I live here in Arizona and like border militarization is absolutely ridiculous. It's terrifying. And I was thinking about this thing that I've encountered a lot. And people who live here have encountered a lot, which I realized a lot of other people might not know about, which is that one of the big defense contractors that the US military uses here in Arizona is Elbit Technologies, which is this Israeli defense company. They designed shit for the IDF. And they, you know, a long time ago at this point, they started to build this virtual wall here in Arizona. And it's this...it's this series of fixed towers that build this AI controlled map of the entire border in Arizona. And the development on this is that we used to, in doing humanitarian aid work out in the desert,we used to joke that the towers that monitor infrared and shit would get set off by a cow or a hot rock or something. And since the development of AI technology, that's shifting. So they are now plugging into these monitors a lot of AI technology. And I think the effectiveness of it, which like at different points was laughable, is going to change a lot soon. **Brooke ** 53:41 Okay, that's a lot. **Inmn ** 53:43 Yeah, it is. It's just wacky and terrifying. And it's like a thing that's being felt especially by people on the Tohono O'odham Nation who have these towers completely covering the reservation. And, that makes people who.... You know, these are people who also faced large amounts of government repressio, becoming fearful to leave their homes and shit. Because they're like, "Well, I can't go to that place that I normally go to. Because all those towers are there now." All of this is to connect this thing that we aren't.... We're not going to talk a whole lot about it, but as I'm sure everyone knows, Israel recently invaded Gaza and.... Or, you know, their continued invasion of Gaza has reached new and horrifying levels. And, we're not going to talk about it too much, or we didn't cover it too much, because there's so much information. And there are a lot of really great sources to get a lot more information than we can responsibly provide on a segment on this show. I have been reading stuff from Jewish Currents and I've been reading some stuff from the Palestinian Youth Movement. And those have been really awesome places to see more like.... Like if you want updated timelines and things like that of events, or like ways to support people in Palestine through this genocide then highly recommend people like learning more about this and finding any way that they can to support people on the ground in Palestine. But some kind of cool things have happened because of it. Like, in Eugene, over the weekend, there was this big pro-Palestine march. **Brooke ** 57:04 Eugene, Oregon. **Inmn ** 57:05 Yeah. Eugene, Oregon. There was this big pro-Palestine March. And this guy and a fucking Guy Fawkes mask gets out of his pickup truck in the middle of it and pulls out a handgun and, you know, starts firing it into a crowd. And then two antifascists come up with their own handguns and to like successfully deescalate and disarm this person. **Brooke ** 57:33 Awesome. **Inmn ** 57:34 You know, without shooting him. And,you know, it was later revealed that the gun this person was firing was like a.... it was not a live ammunition gun. It was called a splatter gun or something. But if you see the pictures of it, it looks like a fucking hand gun. So like, hell yeah to the people who intervened in that situation to like, hopefully prevent, to prevent something that's become a horrifying regularity. **Brooke ** 58:06 Yeah, it could have been a real gun. Yeah, we protect us. Yeah, speaking of war and conflict, can I tell you a funny thing from war? **Inmn ** 58:19 Yeah, you have another funny thing. O, you know, these previous things weren't funny. But let's end on a funny thing. **Brooke ** 58:26 Well my first thing was funny. Okay, I hope this will brighten up everyone else's day too. So, of course--this is not happy--there's a war going on against Ukraine right now. We're at, you know, 20 months, 22 months, getting close to two years on it. Ukrainians are continuing to fight and be bad asses and still doing things stealing equipment from the other side, including tanks. I don't know how much that they're still doing that, but we heard about that a lot in the beginning that the Russians would abandon tanks and Ukrainians would take them. So there was a Ukrainian officer, this was earlier this month, early October, who was driving around in his captured tank and started having technical difficulties with it. So he took it to local experts, whatever that means, and they weren't able to fix what's going wrong with it. It had some oil leakage and it was doing some other things. So he called the manufacturer of the tank, which is a Russian manufacturer, and he called them--and they're in Russia where they make them--and they called the Russian people for tech support. And they answered. And the person tried to help him problem solve the problem going on with the tank. He just called up and said, "Hey, I'm driving, you know, I'm involved in the war and I'm driving such-and-such type of tank and I'm having these problems." And he was...he was generally having the problems with a tank but the call to tech support was just to troll them. I mean, he didn't really expect them to answer or get help, but they did. And then they were trying to help problem solve through the issues that he had and let him file a complaint about the issues with the tank. And also passed him along to a manager at the manufacturing plant so he could further discuss the problems that he was having with this stolen Russian tank. **Inmn ** 1:00:19 Oh my god. Did he get the...did he get the tank operational? **Brooke ** 1:00:24 It doesn't sound like it because I think that really wasn't his end goal. He was really just, like I said, trolling them. And yeah, so he ended up talking to a manager about it. And then, you know, finally let them know, "Oh, by the way, I'm Ukrainian. I'm fighting against you guys. This is a tank that we captured, you know, earlier this year, that's giving me trouble. Thanks." **Inmn ** 1:00:48 Oh my god. That is one of the biggest, hilarious, you know, whatever, modern technology society things that I've ever heard. **Brooke ** 1:01:02 Yeah, and you know, he's speaking Russian. They have no idea. It's just great. It's really.... So there you go, troll the bad guys. When all else fails, just maybe, maybe troll them a little bit for the lols. **Inmn ** 1:01:19 Okay, well, I think that about wraps it up for This Month in the Apocalypse. Thanks, everyone for tuning in. **Brooke ** 1:01:32 Yay October! What joys will November bring us? **Inmn ** 1:01:37 So many more. **Inmn ** 1:01:44 If you enjoyed this podcast then live like the world is dying. Because it probably might be. Um, but you can also tell people about the podcast. You can support us in a bunch of other sillier ways, but you should really just tell people tell people about the podcast and talk to people about like, you know, if stuff like this happens where you are, if you are affected by any of these things, like figure out ways to deal with it as a small community that can help your larger community. And you can also support the show by supporting the publisher, Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness. Strangers is a media publishing collective. We put out books, and podcasts, and zines, and a bunch of other stuff, and zines [said to rhyme with "dines"], and you can find us at tangledwilderness.org And you can support us on Patreon at patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. And that money goes to paying our audio editor. It goes to paying our transcriptionist. And it goes towards supporting the publisher so that we can do lots of other cool stuff. And in particular, we would love to thank these folks. Thank you, Patolli, Eric, Perceval, Buck, Julia, Catgut, Marm, Carson, Lord Harken, Trixter, Princess Miranda, BenBen, Funder, Janice & O'dell, Aly, paparouna, Milica, Boise Mutual Aid, theo, Hunter, S.J., Paige, Nicole, David, Dana, Chelsea Staro, Jenipher, Kirk, Chris, Michaiah, and Hoss the Dog. Thank you for growing this list to such an extent that I'm out of breath by the time that I am done saying it. We hope that you're everyone's doing as well as they can with everything that's going on and we will see you next time.

When two General Motors executives drove into Crater Lake National Park in July 1952, no one could predict they would be dead within an hour—not even their killers. It was a crime of opportunity, a botched robbery during the middle of summer in a crowded national park. When Albert Jones and Charles Culhane were found shot to death two days later, the story became a national obsession. The FBI used every resource and available agent but, as time wore on, the investigation ran out of steam. A lack of evidence worked to the killer's advantage. He had committed a perfect crime. My guest is Monty Orrick, author of "The Crater Lake Murders: The story of the 1952 murders of two General Motors executives and the search for a killer hiding in plain sight." He not only shares details about the crime and its aftermath, but also offers his own theory on who he believes murdered Albert Jones and Charles Culhane on that fateful summer day.  The author's page at Genius Books: https://geniusbookpublishing.com/products/the-crater-lake-murders?variant=46302290870551 The author's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093321581643 This episode is also sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp and get 10% off your first month! https://www.betterhelp.com/notorious Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When two General Motors executives drove into Crater Lake National Park in July 1952, no one could predict they would be dead within an hour—not even their killers. It was a crime of opportunity, a botched robbery during the middle of summer in a crowded national park. When Albert Jones and Charles Culhane were found shot to death two days later, the story became a national obsession. The FBI used every resource and available agent but, as time wore on, the investigation ran out of steam. A lack of evidence worked to the killer's advantage. He had committed a perfect crime.The FBI tried hard to solve the case. Their 2,000+ page report details a staggeringly complex, multi-agency effort: 200 ballistic tests, 1000 interviews, 466 license plate identifications. The man hours were beyond calculation, and yielded valuable information— buried within the individual reports of the FBI, Oregon State Police and local agencies are many clues to the nature and identity of the perpetrator.The FBI file has rarely been seen by anyone outside the Bureau until December 2015 when the author received it on two discs, satisfying a Freedom of Information Act request submitted three years before. This book summarizes all the information: the FBI file, Oregon State Police reports, fresh research and interviews, county records, rare first hand accounts, reaction from one victim's family and an obscure college thesis that first named the killer. Add to this, the personal account of a man to whom the killer confessed. Before the confessor died, he swore his wife to secrecy, reminding her about “the things that nobody talks about.”The Crater Lake Murders tells the true narrative: four men with nothing in common until the day they met and, after that, the Fate all Men share. THE CRATER LAKE MURDERS: The story of the 1952 murders of two General Motors executives and the search for a killer in plain sight-Monty OrrickAugustaPreciousMetals.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3269715/advertisement

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