The Terms&Conditions Podcast

Well, folks, this is it. Fifty episodes, three seasons, two friends, and one hell of a journey. The Terms&Conditions Podcast ends here. Steph & Mace reflect on the ways they've changed, the ways they haven't, and who won the battle of black-and-white vs gray. Adios.

You've heard them argue about theology, sociology, and morality Now, hear them argue about…each other. Steph & Mace air out the grievances they have with each other, some of which have been building up for years. The future is unclear. “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

We've talked about the “wheres” of the afterlife, but what about the “what” and how about the “how?” Steph and Mace discuss soteriology in an attempt to figure out who will be separated from God, Jesus or not. Confusing? Yes. “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

Good grief, bad grief, is there such a thing? Steph & Mace don't know, but they struggle through figuring it out in the contexts of our relationships, churches, and nation. Contradictory business as usual, but with more implied tears. “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

Anyone can complain about what their parents did poorly, but what makes a good parent? Steph and Mace semi-try to focus on the positive and dive into their personal parenting philosophies despite neither having any experience in the field. “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

People have their demons. Some may even have guardian angels. But none of it makes a ton of sense. Steph & Mace discuss what they think about these supernatural beings, what their roles may be, and whether or not they can truly experience a transformative journey a la Elf (2003). “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

Do you ever find yourself in between two people doing your best to keep things together? What about in between one person and God? OR one person and...themselves? This episode is for you, (in)voluntary mediator. Stephanie and Mason learn shocking things about themselves and how they handle being inbetweeners. “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

Let's take a bit of a breather together. Steph & Mace have been going hard this season, but life has been hitting just as hard. So for this episode, they've decided to discuss a bunch of smaller, 5-minute topics drawn from a hat that range from the spiritual to the relational to the mundane. “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

This will be the final episode of T&C. Just kidding! But in the near future, perhaps the things we said here will get us...cancelled! Is that right? What are the pros and cons of cancel culture? Let's talk through it. “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher!

Our lives are full of change, yet the standard is that your spiritual identity shouldn't. Is that realistic? Is that reality? Steph & Mace search for the boundaries of this topic as well as healthy guidelines on how to navigate it well. Can we borrow from a variety of religious traditions? Should we? Do we even have a choice? “Ecclesia's Table” (Mason's book) is now available on Amazon! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Everyone protests. Doesn't have to be a physical rally, but whether it's your work, your lover, or your church, we all push back against life's structures in hopes of change. Steph & Mace are here to analyze the problematic model of protesting we see today, offer an alternative, and question whether anything is worthwhile anyway. You know the deal. Donate to Mason's Book Fundraiser: https://igg.me/at/ecclesiastable Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don't forget we're on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Look, guys, we’re not going to commit to this episode-every-other-week thing like the last two seasons. But we’re going to try! Just like we’re going to try to be safe spaces in our relationships (or maybe not, it’s a lot of work). Steph & Mace discuss the idea of safe spaces on a corporate level as well on a personal one. Be a translator, guyssss. Donate to Mason’s Book Fundraiser: https://igg.me/at/ecclesiastable Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

We’re back (again)! This time, we promise we’ll stay. This season, we plan on talking about more social/political/ethical issues...so today we gotta discuss morality! How does it influence how we vote and how we live? How do we choose it in the first place? And what the heck is a Christian nation? The ideal versus the real, folks. Shoot for the moon, get the middle ground. Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

We’re back. For the last time. Welcome to the FINAL season of The Terms&Conditions Podcast. Much has changed over the last few months, and Steph & Mace get into all that they’ve learned in the offseason, including brain fragility, hearts of change & permanence, evaluating without judging, culty tendencies, and good-ol’-fashioned patience. Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

The year’s almost over, and just as thankfully, this season of The Terms&Conditions Podcast is done! Steph & Mace talk about Season 2’s highs and lows, what they’ve learned, and where they hope to go. See y’all next year #christiansex #hunkerdown Stream the album of this season - “California Mistake” by Caleb Henry - EVERYWHERE NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Heaven. Paradise with God. Sounds like something everyone could get down with, right? WRONG. On this episode of The Terms&Conditions Podcast, Steph and Mace break down some of the biblical descriptions of heaven and discuss why they are either confusing, unclear, or even downright problematic for us humans. Bottom line: God bears a hell of a burden having to write a satisfying conclusion to history. Songs Used: “Sinner’s Prayer” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Who’s ready for a cuddle session of the mind? One of these co-hosts is! Steph and Mace “debate” the importance of physical touch, how it forms us as people, and whether or not professional cuddling is a legitimate way of life. #touchmoretouchwisely Songs Used: “Every Part Of Me” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it on April 17th! Thanks to our sponsor, BurdenBlankets! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Join Steph and Mace for a mostly vague but then far too specific journey into the relationship between Christianity and politics, including non-partisan principles, sad Red Robin days, and holy ambivalence. Songs Used: “I Disagree” and “Don’t Go Outside” by Poppy Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Hey. Hey you. Wanna hear something that Big Debbie told me about Bigger Dale? Come here and I’ll tell you. A little closer...HA! GOTCHA! NO GOSSIP HERE, HEATHEN. But really, Church, we gotta do something about overcoming this “gossiping old church ladies” stereotype if we wanna be taken seriously again. But also, there are good aspects of gossip that we should not give up or deny...oh bother. Today's Sponsor: Use promo code “T&C” to get 15% off of Gossip Toss-Up! Songs Used: “Summer Gives To Fall” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Also, “The Middle” as performed by Audrey Assad Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

We’re taking it back to everyone’s favorite series: God! Listen to Steph and Mace struggle through their thoughts on the word omnipotence itself, miracles, God doing evil, and good ol’ free will. Warning: dead space resulting from drowsiness and confusion abound. Songs Used: “Sinner’s Prayer” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

TW: Anyone down for some wishy-washy syncretism? Well, don’t worry, we’re not exactly talking about that...but Mason did coin the phrase “religious fluidity,” a term which here means “the explicit and implicit ways that people absorb and integrate principles from various religions.” Fun stuff, right? But let’s see if that concept holds up in light of today’s postmodern culture because it does matter what the rest of the world thinks and where it’s headed. Songs Used: “Long Road Home” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Do you think your church is a good one? You probably do and you’re probably wrong, but that doesn’t mean we give up on each other! Steph and Mace look at some of what makes a bad church, such as upside-down pyramids, lack of critique, going mega, and Western skin. Sponsored by: BadChurch.com (not affiliated with BadChristian) Songs Used: “Ain’t Like The Rest” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Steph’s got COVID, Mace has got lethargy, but we all need a little forgiveness, ya hear? Let’s talk through that process, including the necessity of reconciliation, the “device of freedom,” and whether or not a relationship can ever go back to the way it was pre-forgiveness. Songs Used: “Forgiveness” by Matthew West; “Travelin’ Pain” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

We’re following up everyone’s least favorite episode according to download numbers and asking ourselves - is the Bible more and/or less than a moral compass? That’s right, we’re using our Conscience 2.0s and getting into YHWH’s book to see if it should be what guides our ethical decisions and whether or not it’s even capable of doing so. (Apologies for the noise problem again.) Songs Used: “Every Part Of Me” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Do you ever feel like you’re stuck on Compromise Line? Maybe that doesn’t have to be a bad thing. Steph and Mace take a swing at the idea of compromising and all that comes along with it: when to do it, when not to do it, and the resentment and sacrifice that comes along with it #wisdom Songs Used: “Compromise Line” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Let’s get into the meat and potatoes of prayer, huh guys? How’s that sound? Good. Steph and Mace discuss prayers of petition, repetition, and even a little contemplation thrown in there for good measure. #monkit Songs Used: “The Lord’s Prayer” by Gungor Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Relational transparency. Don’t Google it, guys, just trust Steph and Mace’s opinions on just how transparent you should be in your relationships! The public you is still you, friends. Songs Used: “Shotgun Blast” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

What’s the deal with worship music, eh? Steph and Mace explore the many, many complicated factors that go into making good worship and the intentions behind it. It’s all over the place, but hopefully there’s some little worship nuggets in there that you can take in as your own. Sponsor: Check out hip, cool worship artist Christ Omlin at christomlin.com! Songs Used: “Calling To You” off of California Mistake by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Hey guys! We thought we’d lighten the coronaload a bit with an episode of levity: here are our top 5 TV shows and a couple that we recommended to each other! Come to hear Mason say “it’s one of the those shows that…” 20 times and stay for the ridiculous disparity between our lists. Songs Used: “Lucy” off of California Mistake by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it everywhere NOW! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Does God’s omniscience make you feel warm and fuzzy inside? What if that wasn’t the case? Does it need to be? Steph and Mace tackle these questions and potential alternatives to an omniscient God on this rainy-day episode of The Terms&Conditions Podcast (yes that’s rain in the background; sorry for the noise)! Get to wrasslin’ folks. Sponsor: Use promo link torahtcards.com/t&c to get your FREE digital copy of God’s Will! Songs Used: “The Game” off of California Mistake by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it on April 17th! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Welcome to our most church-friendly episode yet! Steph and Mace try to tackle sexual ethics within the church. What does The Bible say about it? How does embodiment come into play? Who else has a porn addiction? Please share this one with your young children. Sponsor: Use promo link sexychristian.com/t&cpod to get a free month’s subscription! Songs Used: “Headed West” from California Mistake by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it on April 17th! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget - we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

GUYS. GALS. WE’RE BACK. Steph and Mace are super hyped for the new season of The Terms&Conditions Podcast, and we’re sure you are, too! We’re easing back into it with a couple life-changing lessons we learned over the winter break, so take a listen and come along for the journey. Songs Used: “California Mistake” by Caleb Henry - stream/buy it on April 17th! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Don’t forget we’re on iTunes, SoundCloud, Spotify, and Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Friends, students, juvenile delinquents - lend me your ears! Hear what Stephanie and Mason take away from Season 1 of this podcast! We'll be back early next year, but for now, we're taking a break. It's good to stop doing something for a bit so you can appreciate it and make it better and also look back at the good and the bad, the black, white, and gray. See ya soon! We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, save us on Spotify, and add us on Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Hell. A beautiful thing, ain't it? No! So what do we do about it? Explore the afterlife possibilities with Mace and Steph as well as the logical problems and emotional trauma that comes from the doctrine of hell. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, save us on Spotify, and add us on Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Feel free to trip out with us for a bit on dreams. Stephanie and Mason talk about some of their more memorable ones while trying to figure out recurring dreams, what they mean, and reality-questioning nature of it all. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, save us on Spotify, and add us on Stitcher! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Hey guys, are you ready to have fun with this podcast? Are you ready to be challenged with a surprising litany of great music? Well, you better be. Stephanie and Mason go over the art of the album, their top 5 albums, and their opinions on albums they recommended to each other. What are your top 5 albums? Do you think albums even matter anymore? Please say yes.

Guys, don’t expect much out of this one...JUST KIDDING (or am i). Steph and Mace navigate through the treacherous waters of relational and situational expectations to little or no success. BUT. We’re doing our best. And you should too. And we’re trying to help. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Evangelizers (evangelists is probably the actual word) often get a bad rap for being overly zealous and pushy. Let’s figure out how to evangelize well! Stephanie and Mason also wonder whether or not evangelizing is necessary in the first place...take a listen! Special thanks to BENSOUND for the “Altar Call” song (actually titled “tenderness”)! Check out more of their royalty-free music here: https://www.bensound.com/royalty-free-music/2 We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Friends, this episode features something unprecedented (other than it being one short of a baker’s dozen): Mason may have changed his mind because of something Stephanie said. We’re talking about whether or not God is more relational and mystical, and we’re curious, what do you guys think about the “personal relationship with Jesus” concept? Is it central to Christianity? Can it be clearly defined? How is it different or similar to every other relationship we have? What about the Holy Spirit? Please, do tell. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @termsandconditions_pod

Hey everyone! It’s time we talk about the source of all Christian clarity, confusion, faith, and doubt: The Bible! Stephanie and Mason mostly center their discussion on the levels of inspiration that different Christians throughout history have attached to this 66-book compilation. There’s much more to say about this topic, but hopefully we’ll talk more about it on a later episode. What do you guys think about The Bible? We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @the_termsandconditions_pod

Hey guys, this one’s a little different! We respond to a listener e-mail in regards to Episode 6 (What Makes A Good: Arguer), and then spend some time delineating the values that make us us. If you’d like to hear us respond to your response and allow every other listener to respond until we have a cool feedback loop of response going, e-mail us at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com with really anything you wanna say. We’ll listen. Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @the_termsandconditions_pod

Acquaintances, Stephanie and Mason have cooled down a bit after last time’s heated episode, hoping to discover what makes a good friend! Clearly, analytically breaking down such a topic is very helpful. You’ll understand why they don’t have many friends after this episode. What do you think makes a good friend? I’m guessing not us. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @the_termsandconditions_pod

Friends, feel free to listen to this episode either drunk or sober! Stephanie and Mason have their most heated debate yet, and it’s still not that bad. Should Christians drink or not? Can we? Does it matter? Get ready for an uncomfortable discussion of all these questions. Drunk Story song provided by composer Ross Bugden! Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aaopn0jCrk Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @the_termsandconditions_pod

Hey everyone! Back with another topic that is too complicated for Stephanie and Mason to properly address: gender dynamics! We talk about how gender segregation plays out in the church/workplace environment, the harmful gender stereotypes we implicitly enforce, and whether or not there are inappropriate ways to interact with other genders. Even though we don’t nail our arguments, we got some good anecdotal evidence to go off of, so buckle up friends. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandcondtionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on Soundcloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @the_termsandconditions_pod

Hey everyone! We’re back after taking a bit of a recording break, which is why this episode is a freeflowy and more of a Stephanie-Mason therapy session than anything else (mostly Stephanie though). We both go over some things that we’d like to work on as arguers, why arguing can be healthy (and why it’s often not), and what the argumentative model of this podcast will look like going forward. Stephanie and Mason both acknowledge the ways they aren’t as respectively black-and-white or gray as they’ve claimed to be. Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @the_termsandconditions_pod

We’re starting a new series on this podcast called “What Makes A Good: ___”! The idea is that we’ll discuss more subjective topics and explain what we think makes them good (i.e. books, games, shows, music, etc.). Today we talk about stories - why they’re important, what they should do in our lives, and how they should end. We definitely ramble a bit more this go around, but please still like us. Also very very (almost not worth mentioning) minor spoilers for The Force Awakens, Breaking Bad, The Lord of The Rings, Swiss Army Man, Catcher In The Rye, The Last of Us, Twin Peaks. We pretty much don’t get into any plot details with these stories, but we reference them. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Rate and review us on iTunes, comment on SoundCloud, and save us on Spotify! Instagram: @the_termsandconditions_pod

Hey everyone, welcome to the episode where we lose all our church listeners! Hopefully not, but we do talk about the formula of language and why “bad words” don’t really exist. In fact, Mason comes up with a better term for that type of language while arguing for its usefulness. That being said, Stephanie and Mason do go over words that they don’t like and words that they can’t say (and why “bro” should be banned). It’s a bit of a song and dance, but that just goes to show how complicated the words we choose to say can be. Stephanie also talks about “musturbation” and “shouldding yourself”...just listen to it. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Adios friends!

Hey friends, it's time we get a little Christian on y'all. Mason and Stephanie each give a recap of their respective faith journeys with the hopes that you might understand where they're coming from with a lot of their perspectives. They also give a little insight into what they think it means to be Christian now, and how reading the Bible differently affects that. Bottom line: beliefs and the people behind them are more complicated than we'd like to think. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Adios friends!

Stephanie and Mason talk about when they’re most and least comfortable, the complexity of group dynamics (Mason’s favorite topic), why being uncomfortable is probably better than comfortable, and make up the word “discomfortability.” Mason says the words “in general/generally” as a disclaimer too much and will probably try to stop saying that. We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Adios friends!

Welcome to take 4 of Episode 1 of The Terms&Conditions Podcast! This is a podcast in which two friends (Stephanie and Mason) recognize their differences in approaching life’s paradigms from their respectively black-and-white and gray viewpoints. We like to talk about group dynamics, self-expression, religious nuance, and social norms. Hopefully by the end of each episode, we hope to show you that people can disagree (even heavily) and still be friends. Or something close to that. In this episode, we discuss why it’s important to look at things from different perspectives depending on the situation, the concepts of “marble friends” and “soul friends,” and why we don’t have many friends. Question(s) of the day: is 8th grade the worst year of life? And who’s voice is more annoying? We have an e-mail! Ask us anything at termsandconditionspod@gmail.com Adios friends!